[01:04] <smoser> alevy, running 'single' doesn't actually hit the datasource.
[01:04] <smoser> harlowja, 
[01:04] <smoser> it just uses what it already found
[01:04] <smoser> you have to re run 'cloud-init init' to have it search
[01:04] <harlowja> ya, moving /var/lib/cloud should make that work out right
[01:08] <smoser> single wont re-run the search though
[01:08] <smoser> so it wont have pulled the data.
[01:08] <smoser> i dont think
[01:08] <smoser> this use case is one i want to solve with 'ci-tool'
[01:08] <harlowja> ya, k, i think alevy was running init also
[18:16] <alevy> harlowja: hey man if you have time I am going to roll a new instance and try to finish debugging this?your input is appreciated.
[18:17] <harlowja> sure, i'll have a little time today, today i have more meetings (which sux)
[18:17] <harlowja> smoser can probably also jump in to (or others)
[18:17] <alevy> ha ha
[18:17] <alevy> yeah understood
[18:17] <alevy> thx
[18:17] <smoser> i can help. sure.
[18:18] <harlowja> all smoser  fault anyway alevy , lol
[18:18] <harlowja> :-P
[18:18] <harlowja> ha
[18:18] <alevy> thanks guys
[18:18] <alevy> let me get it up and see where i am at
[19:12] <alevy> smoser: I assume i need console=ttyS0 to make sure I can see cloud-iit output at boot?
[19:13] <smoser> ubuntu?
[19:13] <alevy> smoser: centos
[19:13] <smoser> i don tknwo fo sure, but quite possibly.
[19:13] <smoser> it depends on the sysvinit scripts
[19:14] <smoser> if they send output to their stdout (which i'd expect them to do)
[19:14] <smoser> so yeah, you probably should have that. and should log thta serial console
[19:22] <alevy> ok
[21:23] <pquerna> smoser: have you been following the systemd-networkd work?  They kinda have a proposal rolling for network config files.
[21:23] <pquerna> smoser: ps sorry i'm bad at bzr; made it a new merge proposal :-/
[21:25] <smoser> pquerna, no. not at all. network config files ?
[21:29] <pquerna> smoser: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-November/014077.html was the first patch, trying to find the bigger spec doc on the .network and .link file formats.
[21:37] <pquerna> smoser: i know the CoreOS guys are interested in getting the .link and .network files onto a ConfigDrive, rather than having to parse out the interface file.  Not sure in the end its much different though.
[21:39] <smoser> well, i think thats wrong.
[21:39] <smoser> network/interfaces format is equally wrong
[21:39] <smoser> but openstack is stuck with it for legacy
[21:39] <smoser> they shouldn't go inserting some other arbitrary format in.
[21:39] <pquerna> i'm all for something better.
[21:39] <smoser> instead use something like the netcfg format or somethign.  
[21:40] <pquerna> is anyone actually adopting netcfg though?
[21:40] <smoser> picking up a "standard" that is all of 2 months old isn't a good idea.