[00:21] !ops [00:22] Pici: !ops [00:24] איך לעזאזל כולם עושים פה אני עושה לא טוב מזוין [00:41] AlanBell: ping, is there any objection to maybe a +q on that guy retroactively? he seems to only join and post things that aren't relevant, or in this case try and call !ops and spam [01:05] TheLordOfTime: can do, but I consider it relatively harmless for them to join here and tell us that they are online and in a silly mood rather than spouting stuff in random channels :) [01:06] AlanBell: okay, well, if it happens continually then maybe it's time to consider it, I bring it up because that's the second time they've done some randomness and asking offtopic questions (17:00 GMT-05:00 was the first instance, same host too) [01:06] well, we are expected to be more resistant to them. Even when swearing in Hebrew.. [01:07] hggdh: might be because my day has been filled with drama I'm on edge about pointing out such things >.> [01:09] TheLordOfTime: goldfisch has been around for a while now. At least here he is not disrupting an user channel [01:09] true [01:10] meh, sorry i bugged you all [01:10] * TheLordOfTime disappears [01:10] heh, it is always good to point out patterns :) [01:59] Meh [01:59] AlanBell: i've been on edge all day, tons of drama does that to a person >.> === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [07:04] hello all [12:54] hggdh: uh, are we "expected" to be more "resistant" to them? [12:54] this might actually be a trend i've started, that of not banning him or anything [12:55] but that's not the message i wanted to send through [12:55] really, it's useless to ban him because he knows how to change hosts well enough [12:55] and he's been trolling horribly since i remember being around [12:55] so, for at least 7 years [12:55] you don't solve this people with bans [12:56] especially since that's what he often requests [12:56] bans, quiets and klines [12:56] i'm not saying i know *how* you solve it, either [12:56] i'm just trying various "psychological" approaches [12:56] chances are, i think, none will work [12:56] but oh well [12:56] and tries to hasten to get what he wants with the alarm calls [12:57] his ultimate goal is to waste our time [12:57] well, he wastes my time anyway when i "playfully" reply to him, i suppose [12:57] except well [12:57] i kind of enjoy it [12:57] so maybe if he actually ends up realizing i enjoy it, that'll be a dealbreaker for him [12:57] i'm not sure [12:57] i don't even mean i enjoy it in a mean way... i'm a bit sorry for him at this point [12:58] but i can't think of anything else than playing along === LjL-Away is now known as LjL === zequence_ is now known as zequence [13:25] LjL: this is probably a good approach bans/quiets only really work for the casual/non-expert IRC user [13:26] hggdh: right, it can be i suppose - i just don't want to be passing on the message that we're actually not supposed to try getting rid of a persistent troll, though [13:26] LjL: oh, no, that thought never crossed my mind :-) [13:28] and I do not see troll control as a 0/1 game; but I still think that if the troll bother *us* instead of the at-large user channels, it is a gain for the community [13:29] oh he bothers both though [13:29] and i suppose i can see how an #u-o user, for instance, could start being puzzled about how i (or another op who's around) may seem to be "doing nothing" about him [13:30] in some ways, better a known troll === LjL^ is now known as LjL === LjL^ is now known as LjL [23:33] hi [23:43] hey [23:46] hi Aaron, here is best to discuss your request [23:47] now you tell me that? [23:47] well i want to request the channel. [23:47] since m4v is a lamer... [23:49] Aaron: what channel is that? [23:49] and what's the actual reason behind it? [23:49] sorry, I have been popping in and out with other things going on and it is end of day for me now, you want some access to #ubuntu-es? [23:49] yes.. [23:50] como gustes, que me amenaces con hablar con "Ubuntu" te descalifica aún más. [23:51] I don't understand why would you want access to a core support channel [23:53] because i am a helper, and i just think that channel it's dead... [23:53] does it matter that he codes the bots? [23:54] and plus, he took over my ex channel #Kubuntu-es [23:54] AlanBell: ^ [23:54] AlanBell: mind a quick PM? [23:54] sure jose [23:54] i don't think the channel is dead [23:58] !canibeanop | Aaron [23:58] Aaron: If you are interested in joining the Ops team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc. [23:59] hmm, that doesn't quite apply to team channels like the -es channels but it is a start