=== Aaron is now known as Guest41483 === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec === Guest41483 is now known as Aaron [03:56] I have a question. In Ubuntu, is a package allowed to create /root/.somefolder/ during installation in the root user's "home" directory? [03:56] (this also applies to any standard user's home directories) [03:57] or does it violate policies [03:58] The application doesn't create those directories on first run? [03:58] (No, is the answer, btw) [04:00] RAOF: supposedly, bitcoind in precise creates /root/.bitcoind/ on install [04:00] but i haven't tested that to confirm [04:00] (initially reported/seen in the #bitcoin general discussion channel) [04:00] I'd guess that it runs the daemon on install, right? [04:01] Which would then create the directories... [04:01] it shouldn't, there's a billion security exploit risks in bitcoind on precise when its run as root [04:01] Although it sounds like bitcoind should probably run as a non-root user. [04:01] Right :) [04:01] the question was, though, is a package allowed, on installation, to create a directory in /root/ [04:01] at all [04:01] (since the daemon wasn't even running yet) [04:01] (since the daemon wasn't even running yet according to the user that saw this) [04:01] RAOF: my question is a general policy one [04:02] not specific to this package [04:02] (if it were within my power, I'd wipe bitcoind from the repos and versionbump them all up to latest stable in all versions of Ubuntu, but meh) [04:02] s/wipe bitcoind/wipe the current bitcoind/ [04:03] * RAOF is pretty sure the policy answer is “No”, but I've not hunted the precise section down. [04:05] TheLordOfTime: They're wrong, too; bitcoind in Precise (and, indeed, Saucy) does not create /root/.bitcoind on install [04:09] RAOF: hmm. does it autorun the daemon? [04:09] No [04:10] RAOF: having said this i still want to know the packaging policy on this [04:10] RAOF: then i'll have to educate people in how things work and tell them that they have failed epicly [04:10] either way, though, i still want to know the policy about this: is a package, during installation, allowed to mess with any user's "home" direcotyr. [04:11] s/direcotyr/directory/ [04:11] * TheLordOfTime shrugs [04:12] TheLordOfTime: As I said, I'm pretty sure the answer is “no” [04:15] Among other things, it's moderately difficult to actually do. [04:44] xnox: Mind if I disable -Werror on sphinxsearch to fix the FTBFS on rebuild? [04:46] (And the current FTBFS on ppc64el?) [05:40] Hi Jackson. [05:54] hey Logan_ [05:55] Noskcaj: I'm sure you have something for me to do. [05:55] Logan_, Sponsorship queue in general, but there's a few high priority ones, let me check [05:55] ;) [05:55] TheLordOfTime: actually, Ubuntu has stopped including Bitcoin [05:56] Unfortunately, that change is only in effect starting with Trusty [05:57] Noskcaj: I plan on going to sleep at a reasonable-ish time tonight, so make it quick. [05:57] Although it appears that I have already failed at that, considering it's almost 1 AM. [05:57] Logan_, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/gauche/ppc64el/+merge/200266 [05:57] It should fix a heap of your PPC64el issues [05:58] https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/menu-cache/ppc64el/+merge/200244 also unblocks a heap [05:59] Logan_: Psh, 1am _is_ reasonable. ;) [05:59] Though I'm told that it could be effectively removed through the SRU process, by creating an "update" that simply makes the software unusable -- if anyone wants to do that, it'd be great [05:59] Noskcaj: Looking at gauche. [05:59] ubuntu-dev time =/= normal person time [05:59] ty [05:59] Believe me, I'm far from a normal person. [06:01] (I don't know how that would be done, both from the standpoint of Ubuntu policy/procedure and from the standpoint of the actual update itself and how it would work) [06:06] Noskcaj: Did you do a test build of gauche? [06:06] Logan_, On amd64, yes [06:06] built fine [06:06] Trusty? [06:06] yeah. pbuilder-dist [06:06] No, you didn't. [06:07] Because you would've noticed that the autoreconf failed with 16 missing header warnings. [06:07] I did, i'll try and build it again [06:07] Tsk tsk. [06:08] In any case, there's a simple fix if you don't know how to do it. [06:08] michagogo|cloud: oh good, may I ask the reasons for them not including bitcoin anymore? :) [06:09] michagogo|cloud: (that does not, however answer my question about general packaging policies) [06:09] i could go poke debian about that, but meh [06:09] Logan_, Just give me a minute to branch it [06:10] TheLordOfTime: read the ML archives [06:12] michagogo|cloud: ehh, i'm lazy, besides it's 01:12 and i'm tired, i'll add that to my todo list [06:12] ... which ML archive though [06:23] Noskcaj: Actually, my quick-and-dirty fix doesn't appear to have worked. So let me know if you come up with something. [06:23] Logan_, My internet is being more broken than normal. Any chance you could fix and upload? [06:24] I'll look into it tomorrow [06:24] Still playing with it, though. [06:25] TheLordOfTime: ubuntu-release [06:25] And actually, maybe also ubuntu-motu [06:30] Noskcaj: Do you have router problems or something? [06:35] Logan_, Internet below ADSL speed, plus 4 brothers [06:36] Noskcaj: I'm sorry to hear that you have brothers [06:36] :) [06:37] Should i delete the menu-cache branch [07:01] wgrant: Is it possible for MultiDistroTools on UbuntuWire to compare Trusty to Sid instead of to Jessie? [07:05] Logan_: The next update will use sid [07:05] Sweet. When will that come out? [07:05] Or are you referring to 14.10? :P [07:06] It's updated hourly. [07:07] Ah. [07:07] Thanks! [08:14] good morning === paddy_ is now known as paddy === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [12:37] LoganCloud: Logan_: well I did try to make sphinxsearch actually pass all of it's autoreconf errors =/ === zequence_ is now known as zequence === paddy is now known as g4mbit[real] === g4mbit[real] is now known as g4mbit[rente] === g4mbit[rente] is now known as paddy === Rh0nda is now known as Rhonda === medberry is now known as med_ [19:49] Laney, You around? [20:05] Noskcaj: End up figuring out that FTBFS? [20:08] Logan_, gauche? No, i was just getting around to it now, [20:09] Okay. Let me know. [20:13] Would the autoheader issue just need another b-dep or do i need to make some patches? [20:14] I'm not sure. I tried adding AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIRS([m4]) to configure.ac, but it didn't appear to work. === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away