[00:37] <ikonia> what a surprise thesarge is back
[00:38] <PublicStaticVoid> Hello, as you all know I have been helping people in #ubuntu and contributing to the project with donations and code contribs for years
[00:38] <PublicStaticVoid> And I am very unsatidfied with your decsion to make ikonia an op, as he likes to abuse his power and break more rules than he enforces.
[00:39] <PublicStaticVoid> Just thought id let you know before I got a hold of my Cannoical friends.
[00:39] <PublicStaticVoid> Thanks.
[00:39] <tsimpson> Canonical have no say over how the IRC channels are run
[00:40] <tsimpson> the correct thing to do would be to discuss it, here
[00:43] <PublicStaticVoid> That will do no good you are all friends
[00:43] <hggdh> PublicStaticVoid: so why do you say ikonia has been abusing his power?
[00:43] <PublicStaticVoid> and you'd be suprised what kind of pull Canonical has :)
[00:43] <PublicStaticVoid> It is being handled, no worries.
[00:44] <hggdh> PublicStaticVoid: please do not even bother to threaten; instead tell us what happened
[00:44] <PublicStaticVoid> I am not threatening, just letting you know what actions I have taken.
[00:45] <PublicStaticVoid> And discusing it here never ha done anyone any good as you always take eachothers side.
[00:45] <LjL> PublicStaticVoid: have you been helping for years under another nickname? because this one doesn't ring a bell for me
[00:46] <hggdh> PublicStaticVoid: as you wish. Your chance of explaining what happened/happens/will happen is still up.
[00:46] <PublicStaticVoid> Just know my copropration will seize all further donations to your project, you guys won't mind but Canonical will.
[00:46] <LjL> that's good because Canonical kinds of rubs me the wrong way
[00:46] <LjL> but that was another threat, so
[00:46] <PublicStaticVoid> You can see what happened as easily as I can tell you
[00:47] <LjL> can't be bothered with bullies
[00:47] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops PublicStaticVoid Clearly joining without an intent to solve the issue, instead issuing threats after asked not to
[00:47] <hggdh> pitty. I wanted to know what project is it that will lose all donations.
[00:48] <ikonia> it's made up project number 11 from made up corperation after his made up help
[00:48] <hggdh> heh
[00:54] <PublicStaticVoid> I like how you mock me after I leave
[00:54] <PublicStaticVoid> Nothing was made up
[00:54] <PublicStaticVoid> But that is fine.
[00:54] <Pici> Is there something we can help you with right now?
[00:54] <tsimpson> PublicStaticVoid: if you don't want to discuss what happened, why are you here?
[00:55] <PublicStaticVoid> As I was saying, you can see what happened as you were there as well. So go ahead read it and give me your verdict...
[00:55] <hggdh> PublicStaticVoid: you still has not given us any data
[00:55] <PublicStaticVoid> You were all in the channel
[00:55] <PublicStaticVoid> Go lok and see
[00:56] <hggdh> being in the channel is not the same as *following* the channel. Please summarise what happened in your view
[00:56] <tsimpson> I can see what happened
[00:56] <LjL> actually i'm not in the channel
[00:56] <PublicStaticVoid> I can tell by how you talked after you booted me that you are all friends and I have no chance of getting Ikonia in any trouble for his obvious abuse.
[00:56] <LjL> i could wait for logs to be updated
[00:56] <LjL> but logs only update on the hour
[00:56] <LjL> so i'm actually curious how you got the ones for this channel
[00:56] <tsimpson> you were asked to not use a specific term, you refused
[00:56] <LjL> since it's not o'clock yet
[00:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Just curious on how long this rediculous ban is supposed to last
[00:56] <tsimpson> until you resolve it
[00:56] <PublicStaticVoid> A lil birdie told me
[00:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Resolve what?
[00:57] <PublicStaticVoid> He said I was off topic and booted me for it.
[00:57] <PublicStaticVoid> so how long is the ban for.
[00:57] <PublicStaticVoid> Well?
[00:58] <tsimpson> bans do not have a fixed length, if you want it removed you need to be willing to discuss it
[00:58] <PublicStaticVoid> Fine, I was off-topic.
[00:58] <PublicStaticVoid> Sorry.
[00:58] <PublicStaticVoid> How lang am I banned?
[00:58] <PublicStaticVoid> long*
[00:59] <PublicStaticVoid> Please show me this policy where all bans are only remoed after discussin them instead of a fixed length like they always have been, please.
[01:00] <tsimpson> they have never been fixed length
[01:01] <LjL> PublicStaticVoid: please show me the policy where they aren't
[01:01] <PublicStaticVoid> I have sen many people banned for fixed lengths
[01:02] <PublicStaticVoid> So again, show me this policy.
[01:02] <LjL> only if you make me a sandwitch
[01:02] <PublicStaticVoid> Very professional.
[01:03] <LjL> you too
[01:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Will you please tell when you are removing the ban.
[01:03] <tsimpson> bans have never been fixed length, so you're wrong about that
[01:03] <hggdh> PublicStaticVoid: the issue at hand is not how long will the ban be in place, but *why* were you banned
[01:04] <PublicStaticVoid> Because I proceeeded to help a fellow Ubuntu user with an issue when not a single sole was using the channel for anything topic worthy.
[01:04] <PublicStaticVoid> And I did not listen to the op who asked me to stop.
[01:04] <tsimpson> the ban will not be removed until you can convince us that you know why action was taken against you and that you're not going to repeat the behaviour that caused that action to be taken
[01:04] <PublicStaticVoid> And that's fine, your decision.
[01:04] <tsimpson> your current attitude doesn't convince me
[01:04] <PublicStaticVoid> I told you why I was banned and told you I will stay on topic.
[01:05] <PublicStaticVoid> Not sure how my attitude is so well reflected through text.
[01:05] <ikonia> you where not banned because of being offtopic
[01:05] <ikonia> I asked you to be on topic - not a problem, your attitude is why you where banned
[01:05] <PublicStaticVoid> Okay, I will just use another Account, I could care less I have 20.
[01:05] <ikonia> everyone slips offtopic, your attitude is what got you banned
[01:05] <PublicStaticVoid> Thnaks.
[01:05] <ikonia> to clarify
[01:06] <tsimpson> trying to threaten us/canonical come across quite well in text actually
[01:06] <PublicStaticVoid> Fucking retards with no friends, get a little power in a chat room and feel special. Really need to seek help or get out more.
[01:06] <PublicStaticVoid> That wasn't a threat
[01:06] <PublicStaticVoid> I simply informed you I emailed my friends there.
[01:06] <tsimpson> your attitude seems well reflected in that text
[01:06] <PublicStaticVoid> If it has any affect here or not, I do not know
[01:07] <ikonia> "look what happens you'll see
[01:07] <ikonia> "my funding will stop"
[01:07] <PublicStaticVoid> And I do work for Oracle Inc. and was responsible for the last 3 Donations.
[01:07] <ikonia> thats threats
[01:07] <PublicStaticVoid> And I will make sure there are no more and that Canonical knows why.
[01:07] <tsimpson> what you do with money you control is up to you
[01:07] <LjL> hey guys
[01:08] <LjL> do you mind if i override this?
[01:08] <LjL> no? okay
[01:08] <hggdh> So you think that threatening Canonical will make us relent? This actually sounds bad for you
[01:08] <AlanBell> yeah, I think we are about done here
[01:08] <ikonia> well as I'm onsite at Oracle tomorrow, I'll see if I can drop him an email
[04:32] <Go|dfish_> hi
[04:32] <Go|dfish_> !ops
[04:32] <Go|dfish_> wooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[04:32] <Go|dfish_> ljl why ljl why
[19:14] <LjL> topyli is all leavyjoiny these days
[19:14]  * LjL doesn't get it
[19:16] <IdleOne> he loves us but so much to stay with us
[19:17] <IdleOne> makes me cry a little
[23:52] <k1l> @mark #ubuntu g0twig making again comments and falls assumptions on the user privacy of ubuntu