[17:47] Hey wrst: I think I remembered you saying that you primarily use Arch, which DE do you use with it? [17:52] I still have Xubuntu on my desktop but I've had Arch with tmux running for a while on my laptop and I've found the experience oddly cathartic so I've been pondering xfce4 over Arch but wondered what other people were doing. [17:55] tenc: I use gnome [17:55] but xfce is good and all the shimmer themes are in the aur, so you can have a nice looking xfce like xubuntu if you desire [17:56] 2 or 3? [17:56] don't know if you have ever used stock xfce or not but its butt ugly until you give it some love [17:56] gnome 3.10 [17:56] you can't get gnome 2 in arch, well not without some weird magic [17:56] I'm sure someone somewhere might be but not for sure why [17:59] Isn't unity baked in to gnome 3+? [17:59] NO [17:59] :) [17:59] LOL, ok, I thought I could be wrong. [17:59] unity is a "shell" on top of gnome 3 or it was, not for sure how that is working now as I try to avoid unity like that black plague [18:00] Yes, it is not desirable. [18:00] but if you like xfce no reason not to try it on arch [18:00] or cinnamon [18:01] I'm not a fan of cinnamon personally as it always seems laggy to me [18:03] I'll likely stick with xfce as you suggest. Everything else I've considered looks 'shiny' to me and I'm wary of shiny looking DEs. Like a lot of things I believe when DEs are working correctly you should not notice them. :) [18:07] Good afternoon, eileen. ^^