[17:47] <tenc> Hey wrst: I think I remembered you saying that you primarily use Arch, which DE do you use with it?
[17:52] <tenc> I still have Xubuntu on my desktop but I've had Arch with tmux running for a while on my laptop and I've found the experience oddly cathartic so I've been pondering xfce4 over Arch but wondered what other people were doing.
[17:55] <wrst> tenc: I use gnome
[17:55] <wrst> but xfce is good and all the shimmer themes are in the aur, so you can have a nice looking xfce like xubuntu if you desire
[17:56] <tenc> 2 or 3?
[17:56] <wrst> don't know if you have ever used stock xfce or not but its butt ugly until you give it some love
[17:56] <wrst> gnome 3.10
[17:56] <wrst> you can't get gnome 2 in arch, well not without some weird magic
[17:56] <wrst> I'm sure someone somewhere might be but not for sure why
[17:59] <tenc> Isn't unity baked in to gnome 3+?
[17:59] <wrst> NO
[17:59] <wrst> :)
[17:59] <tenc> LOL, ok, I thought I could be wrong.
[17:59] <wrst> unity is a "shell" on top of gnome 3 or it was, not for sure how that is working now as I try to avoid unity like that black plague
[18:00] <tenc> Yes, it is not desirable. <g>
[18:00] <wrst> but if you like xfce no reason not to try it on arch
[18:00] <wrst> or cinnamon
[18:01] <wrst> I'm not a fan of cinnamon personally as it always seems laggy to me
[18:03] <tenc> I'll likely stick with xfce as you suggest. Everything else I've considered looks 'shiny' to me and I'm wary of shiny looking DEs. Like a lot of things I believe when DEs are working correctly you should not notice them. :)
[18:07] <tenc> Good afternoon, eileen. ^^