[13:20] <airurando> nice to see tdr112 is still in the channel even
[13:20] <zmoylan-len> why?
[13:20] <airurando> even though he is far far away.
[13:21] <zmoylan-len> ah
[13:21] <airurando> tdr112 is in Houston Texas
[13:21] <zmoylan-len> ooooooh
[13:28] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:28] <czajkowski> hows folks ?
[13:29] <zmoylan-len> hi, czajkowski, you confused th gods of weather by travelling early this year i see :-)
[13:32] <czajkowski> I know
[13:33] <czajkowski> and it got pay back on the way back
[13:33] <czajkowski> awful sailing
[13:34] <zmoylan-len> but the boat made it, no stuck in port for yonks.  the boat is almost unstoppable
[13:34] <zmoylan-len> whereas the papers where full of pics of people sleeping on airport floors
[13:39] <czajkowski> our orignially ferry was canceled
[13:39] <czajkowski> was told get on the 2:45am one
[13:39] <czajkowski> and that was at 5pm
[13:39] <czajkowski> so queue packing and a 5 hr drive
[13:40] <czajkowski> then it never left till 6:30 due to laoding it up and the issues leaving the port
[13:40] <czajkowski> coming back the drive from castleconnell to rosslare was full of flooded roads at 5am
[13:40] <czajkowski> and a ferry crossing that left me dying
[13:41] <ebel> you just don't have the luck
[13:42] <czajkowski> nope
[13:42] <czajkowski> not at all
[13:42] <czajkowski> I also had broncitis and sinus infection over the holidays
[13:43] <zmoylan-len> saw that on your twitter, hopefully better now
[13:53] <czajkowski> yup just about
[13:53] <slashbel> We also found the xmas time travelling very tiring. I think it would be better to visit family at another time of year
[13:53] <slashbel> hope you're better now czajkowski
[13:57] <czajkowski> yeah but cannot not visit them either
[13:57] <czajkowski> and as it is
[13:57] <czajkowski> I've got an xmas dinner this sunday with my other half famiy
[13:58] <zmoylan-len> halloween trip, drop off crimbo pressies. no insane travel with the rest of the planet
[13:58] <slashbel> aye zmoylan-len, or i might try a trip at the start of spring next time
[13:59] <slashbel> it will introduce my family to the concept of spring starting on a scheduled date
[13:59] <zmoylan-len> spring is the time of bad weather
[13:59] <czajkowski> FOSDEM time!!!
[14:00] <slashbel> wrong
[14:00] <slashbel> spring in Ireland starts on 1 Feb
[14:00] <slashbel> spring in England starts when the daffodils come out
[14:01] <slashbel> so by that definition, Spring will have nice weather
[14:01] <slashbel> s/England/England & Wales/ ← Wales being found of daffodils
[14:02] <zmoylan-len> yes but we had three 'springs' in 2013 where weather was warm and nice and then horrible cold winter was back
[14:02] <slashbel> likewise, Autumn starts when the leaves fall of the trees, Winter starts when there is frost on the ground and Summer starts when the Morris Men come out
[14:02] <zmoylan-len> really mucked up plants last year
[14:03] <czajkowski> hens took care of my plants
[14:03] <czajkowski> by nibbling them
[14:03] <slashbel> did you get revenge by nibbligg on the hens?
[14:05] <zmoylan-len> i did find my book of heroic failures and confirmed the story about the different pay scales for men and women for equal pay officer  http://pastebin.com/S40u5XZG
[14:07] <ebel> zmoylan-len: yes I found a scan of that book
[14:07] <zmoylan-len> me too. pdf on scribd i think i was
[14:07] <czajkowski> slashbel: aye I set bash on them
[14:08] <ebel> zmoylan-len: but I couldn't find a primary source for it
[14:08] <zmoylan-len> have been looking for a paper copy for last 10 years
[14:08] <zmoylan-len> i do know that some of the other stories in the book made headlines at the time.  i trust it.  the ones he couldn't nail down he put in a chapter labelled unabled to track down
[14:09] <ebel> would be great for the large newspapers to be scanned and OCRed
[14:12] <zmoylan-len> they have archives but i suspect they're trying to work out a way to make money of allowing access to them
[14:43] <slashbel> https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/animal-shelters-stretched-but-expecting-surge-in-abandoned-pets-1.1650852 ← i had hoped we were well passed the stage of people buying dogs as christmas presents
[14:49] <zmoylan-len> unfortunately kids still ask santa for pets
[14:55] <slashbel> kids are stupid
[14:55] <slashbel> and the parents even worse for giving the kids anything they ask for
[14:55] <zmoylan-len> but if you want to stop the cruelty you have to put out the message that santa doesnt give kids pets
[14:57] <slashbel> and no harm in a few prosecutions too
[14:58] <ebel> "Dogs can survive in the North Pole, so Santa can't bring you any!"