[09:08] <fish_> hrm.. so do I need to use a late script for do /etc/network/interfaces configuration?
[09:52] <fish_> hrm, ubuntu-minimal installs stuff like mlocate and ntfs-3g - not *that* minimal
[09:56] <xnox> fish_: ntfs-3g is in standard, not minimal.
[09:56] <xnox> and *desktopy* seeds / tasks
[10:10] <fish_> xnox: hrm, but in my preseed I have: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-minimal
[10:11] <fish_> well, I also install openssh-server and lxc-docker but I doubt they pull in ntfs-3g
[10:20] <cjwatson> fish_: you also need "tasksel tasksel/skip-tasks string standard" if you want to skip the standard task
[10:20] <fish_> cjwatson: ah! thanks
[10:22] <fish_> but the whole network configuration is just for the installer, right? it seems that it's not writing down the settings to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:24] <cjwatson> it normally should write it, but I'm afraid I don't have time to look today
[10:26] <fish_> cjwatson: okay, guess it just ignores my static network config in the preseed file because I set it to dhcp on the command line
[16:10] <mpt> xnox, the mockup in <http://goo.gl/4xOlO5>  shows “Use Entire Partition” and “Use Entire Disk” buttons that aren’t present in the actual installer. Do you know why?
[16:12] <xnox> mpt: first time I see those buttons. What happens in practice: if there is big enough unallocated space, we just use that without showing this dialog, otherwise we offer to resize an existing one.
[16:12] <xnox> mpt: i'm not sure those buttons make sense, as "Use Entire disk" is option "Wipe and install" on the previous screen.
[16:12] <mpt> That’s what I thought. :) Thanks xnox
[16:13] <xnox> mpt: and "Use Entire Partition" also doesn't quite make sense, as we resize one of the existing ones and use "all" of the created one.
[16:13] <xnox> mpt: no problem.
[16:20] <davmor2> xnox: hey dude the u1 install page is that something you deal with?  or is it our end?  The log in details don't seem to be being passed to gnome-keyring
[16:21] <xnox> davmor2: =/   from day one of this feature there was no defined driver/maintainer for it. So it's blurred lines.
[16:21] <davmor2> yay :'( that makes is so much easier then :(
[16:21] <xnox> davmor2: execute installer / that page, with ubiquity debug mode on & SSO debug mode, & collect all logs & ubiquity console output.... and then we can work out things from there.
[16:22] <xnox> davmor2: are you using a 2fa account? those don't work.
[16:23] <davmor2> hmm that might be the cause
[16:32] <mpt> xnox, eventually we’ll get this document into a shape worth reading in full for the first time. :)
[16:35]  * mpt has never read it in full either
[16:44] <xnox> mpt: don't worry, i haven't read all ubiquity source code either. =)
[16:46] <ogra_> what ?
[16:46] <ogra_> how did we ever let you into the installer team !
[16:47] <ogra_> don't tell me you also havent read all the open bugs yet
[17:05] <xnox> ogra_: psusi makes sure i get archived bug updates sent to me, in batches of 3h long reading =)
[17:05] <ogra_> lol, so he does
[17:05]  * ogra_ gets these too 
[17:09] <mpt> If the 3007 open bug reports on Ubiquity average 50 words in length, their combined length is roughly that of “Oliver Twist”
[17:11] <xnox> mpt: what about pages and pages of the attached logs? =)
[17:11] <xnox> mpt: i get to read those bits as well ;-)
[17:15] <mpt> I don’t believe you
[17:16] <mpt> I’ve watched engineers read log files. They don’t read them, they scroll through them and magically stop on the one crucial line that tells them what the bug is
[17:20] <xnox> mpt: it's all done at the expense of gray hair, or using TARDIS to skip the boring parts.
[17:55] <davmor2> mpt: you have too much time on your hands if you have time to look up word counts ;)
[21:48] <Andreas> ubuntu 13.10 installer can't find my SATA drive, any clue why
[21:49] <Andreas> should i try connecting it to another sata port or change some things in bios..?