[01:26] RobbyF: correct, there's nothing that uses the Google account yet === jono is now known as Guest35005 [02:04] nik90: pink [02:04] ping even [02:14] mhall119: pong [02:16] nik90: http://91.189.92.89/api/qml/sdk-2.0/QtFeedback.HapticsEffect/ [02:16] I was your MP for an audible alarm on Timer, and thought "that would be twice as good with vibration too" [02:16] and since the latest device images support that now [02:17] mhall119: actually I added it and then removed it :P [02:18] mhall119: But I can add it back again easily :) [02:18] did you not like it? [02:18] well it wasnt about not liking it..I did not want to over do it. [02:18] ah, understandable [02:18] right now you have haptic feedback while pressing tabs, buttons etc. [02:18] yeah, I filed a bug on that already [02:18] I had a question related to haptics again [02:19] what question? [02:19] in all the tabs in clock app, the middle circle in the clock face is a button. Would you expect to have haptic feedback there? [02:19] as a user [02:20] Because a list item is also clickable, but it doesn't have that haptic feedback. [02:20] not me, personally [02:20] so wasn't sure if I should add it [02:20] though tabs shouldn't either, IMO [02:20] +1 [02:20] tabs shouldnt [02:21] btw did you run that branch? Did you like the feedback shown especially the sound? [02:21] I haven't tried it yet, no, just saw the MP come across my inbox [02:22] clock is on my list of things to try on desktop between now and Wednesday next week [02:23] oh [02:23] mhall119: hey btw I was thinking of adding Ctrl+Tab to switch tabs [02:23] does that seem reasonable? [02:23] I think so, yeah [02:26] mhall119: are you tracking desktop related bugs with any special tags? [02:26] in other core apps projects? [02:57] nik90: not yet, no [02:57] popey might be [02:58] nik90: what timezone are you? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:05] mhall119: UTC+1.. I have a free day tomorrow, hence the night hacking :) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:11] nearly morning hacking now [03:11] mhall119: I am done in another 15 mins. Just reporting bugs and then off :) [03:12] just don't burn yourself out with too many late nights :) [03:13] + === shiggitay is now known as Shiggitay [03:38] hello peeps === vying is now known as Guest85317 === duflu_ is now known as duflu === ricardodrosales is now known as ricdros [06:23] alguien habla español? [07:43] good morning === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:25] hello. i`m gonna be short. === Alin is now known as Guest79477 [08:25] i would like to know if ubuntu touch could run on samsung tab 3? [08:27] !devices | Guest79477 is it on that list ? [08:27] Guest79477 is it on that list ?: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [08:28] mhr3, thanks! but i have to wait for tab 3... [08:28] for now supporting just tab 2 [08:30] Guest79477, think you didn't want to ping me [08:31] yeah. sorry :) [08:31] it was for ubot5 [08:54] pitti good morning :) I addresses your remark on https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/qtubuntu-sensors/add-position-plugin-in-preparation-for-dropping-qtlocation-distro-patch/+merge/200703 [08:55] hey tvoss [08:55] tvoss: thanks, I just ack'ed that a minute ago [08:56] pitti thanks :) [08:57] Mirv, didrocks could you take a look at the mp, too? https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/qtubuntu-sensors/add-position-plugin-in-preparation-for-dropping-qtlocation-distro-patch/+merge/200703 [08:59] tvoss: on the packaging side, do you really need Replaces: ? like, you are going to install a file that was in libqt5location5-plugins? [08:59] didrocks, yup :) see pitti's review comment [09:01] tvoss, didrocks: NB that landing this should either be done in lockstep with, or after actually uploading qtlocation-opensource-src with the dropped plugin [09:01] otherwise, the breaks/replaces: version potentially gets wrong if someone does another upload of qtlocation-opensource-src [09:01] tvoss: sure. and I can upload the qtlocation with dropped plugin. [09:01] pitti: yeah, for sure, not sure about the Replaces: need, this is just to help apt, but semantically, it's not needed, right? [09:02] didrocks: semantically the Breaks: isn't needed, but it's the standard debian way for moving files (yes, helps apt) [09:02] didrocks: the Replaces: is certainly necessary, as it does replace a file from qtlocation [09:02] pitti: so, we really move files? I thought the filename was different [09:02] ok, if the filenames are the same, making sense [09:03] didrocks: AFAIK it was the exact same file name [09:08] Mirv, would like to test the update procedure then. Could you provide me with an updated armhf qtlocation package? [09:08] tvoss: ok, sure [09:08] what do I do if /dev/loop0 is 100% full ? can increase its size ? [09:09] om26er: what did you mount on it? [09:10] pitti, i think on Ubuntu touch its where ubuntu is installed [09:10] om26er: if it's a vfat or ext4 image etc., just make it bigger [09:10] / [09:11] pitti, its ext2 [09:11] ah, I guess on ubuntu touch that's difficult; why would you want to do this? [09:11] pitti, I am installing stuff on it to build a big source on the phone and see all the space is gone [09:11] /dev/loop0 2.0G 1.4G 472M 75% / [09:11] /dev/loop0 ext2 2.0G 1.8G 60M 97% / [09:12] om26er: yeah, can't do that I'm afraid [09:12] :/ [09:12] om26er: you need to build big packages with cross-building, or try to avoid unnecessary build deps [09:13] om26er: the actual sources shoudl be in /home (which has much more space) [09:13] pitti, yes the build-deps are taking more space, I'll reflash the device and install selective === om26er is now known as om26erafk [09:14] om26er: you can also try some dirty tricks like moving /var, or /usr/lib/ or something big to /home and symlink it [09:26] Show ads in your website or blog and make some money into your paypal http://ega.123bit.com/ [09:48] Saviq, thanks for being on top of Paul's mail [09:49] plars' mail [09:50] olli, sure, shame we're not getting much data out of it (still need to look through the results for 121) [10:16] morning all [10:18] my phone died over night I'm not sure why it normally has around 50-25% power left in the morning, this was 2% [10:19] it probably vibrated all the night waiting in excitement for you [10:19] :) [10:21] ogra_: I'm wondering if it might of been the new powerd not shutting something down [10:22] well, my mako still has 30% left over night [10:22] * ogra_ chacks the maguro [10:22] ogra_: yes and that is what I was expecting too [10:22] *checks [10:22] 53% here [10:23] but i didnt use it much apart from debugging stuff via adb yesterday [10:23] ogra_: yeah somewhere between 25-50% so 2% not so good right [10:23] nope [10:23] watch it [10:25] ogra_: also is it me or is the phone not as loud as when android is on the device, ringtone wise I can't hear it properly if it is in another room, I might try some experiments over the weekend [10:26] hmm, might be [10:27] i never ran android on the maguro ... and on the mako it is a long time ago === sudanix_ is now known as sudanix [10:55] tvoss: qtlocation upgradable on device by apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper [10:55] Mirv, thanks, will give it a spin after next meeting [11:06] ogra_: hmm it just dawned on me I wonder if Pulse Audio is doing the standard only turning the volume up to 80% and reserving the last 20% so you have to open up the full pulse audio app to get the last bit [11:06] davmor2, might be, try to check with diwic ... he made the profiles [11:06] ogra_: thanks will do === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g is now known as alan_g|walk === om26erafk is now known as om26er === alan_g|walk is now known as alan_g [12:56] xnox, systempart= is not what you think it is [12:56] rsalveti, how's it coming? [12:56] hi ogra_ [12:56] (just looking at your MP) [12:57] xnox, the systempart implementation belongs to non loop images (for ports) and needs to live in the fstab creation script of that specific image variant [12:58] xnox, i think your change breaks flipped ports that way === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:04] ogra_: i don't believe it does. do you want me to use another variable name, instead? or for example to also check that /tmpmnt/ubuntu is _not_ present? [13:04] heh, i implemented it that way in the fstab creation script :) [13:05] ogra_: cause _with_ /tmpmnt/ubuntu present, it would indicate a non-flipped type. [13:05] i would prefer a new variable name [13:05] especially since it is no partition ... but an image [13:07] ogra_: hal9000? [13:07] oh, wait, i misread [13:07] ogra_: what do you mean "no parition" ? it is a _real_ normal partition. [13:07] * ogra_ missed "if ([ -e /tmpmnt/system.img ] || [ -n "$system_path" ]); then" [13:08] hmm, in fact it could even work now that i think of it [13:08] ogra_: I can add && [ ! -d /tmpmnt/ubuntu ] there [13:09] except that you dont have a list with partition names for it androids system ... (there are like 30 or so for different devices ) [13:09] ogra_: and system_path is defined to a parition with label UBUNTU, unless manually overriden. [13:09] s/it// [13:09] yeah, that would break for ports [13:09] it should have a list of all possible labels [13:09] no. [13:10] for the ports flipped implementation it has to [13:10] they use the existing android system partition [13:10] i specifically need a new label on the partition for, one may not use [13:10] for non-loop. [13:10] so $system_path in my patch may _not_ be android system partition =) [13:10] right [13:11] so i really should use new variable name. [13:11] so pick a new name ... [13:11] ubuntu_systempart [13:11] or so [13:11] beyond that the MP looks good :) [13:12] (i'm also not sure how many ports will actually still work at all once we drop SF support, which should happen soon) [13:12] (so the flipped ports images might be moot for the moment) [13:13] ogra_: flippinel? [13:14] flipponastic ! [13:17] ogra_: better still, flip-flops [13:19] Mirv, you around? so update applies cleanly locally. Can you give it a spin, too? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:37] tvoss: in hangout then EOD, but tested with qtubuntu-sensors from daily-build and qtlocation from qt5-proper (on desktop): since the Breaks is for << ubuntu4 and not << ubuntu4~, it doesn't work with the test qtlocation package, but recompiling qtubuntu-sensors with "ubuntu4~" as the Breaks/Replaces solves the situation [13:37] tvoss: I'll now push a build of qtlocation without the test suffix in version number, but have to then revisit testing on Monday (also, I haven't tested on device) [13:37] Mirv, ack ... do you want me to change the Breaks/Replaces? [13:38] Mirv, or do you take care of the version number thingy in qtlocation? [13:39] tvoss: no it should be fine as is for archive, it just prevents "have increasable test build version number that's not equal or higher to the one that will be in archive", but that's not relevant for this small case [13:40] Mirv, ack and thx [13:40] building now at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-proper/+sourcepub/3811482/+listing-archive-extra - after that using qt5-proper + ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build and updating just qtubuntu-sensors should pull the qtlocation update in too. [13:40] thanks [13:41] popey, oh man ... now i feel as old as i am [13:42] Mirv, great, thanks === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:12] hi everyone [14:13] is it possible to install ubuntu touch on a tilapia nexus 7? [14:13] tilapia = 3G version [14:13] i don't use the 3G at all though [14:14] there are hacks i think ... google for it [14:14] (it does not work out of the box) [14:15] ogra_: what did popey say to make you feel so young? [14:15] davmor2, popey pointed to old people music on G+ [14:15] * ogra_ shakes his cane [14:15] lol old people music [14:16] * popey looks for his lute [14:16] ogra_: pass your cane there are kids on my lawn [14:16] popey: is this the 80's classics you are listening to or did you go further back still [14:18] davmor2: i am wandering around spotify like a lost dog [14:20] http://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0 <=== Best song ever! [14:20] popey, ogra_: You need a little Bob Marley and whalers in your day and a little Jimi Hendrix, maybe some pink floyd (try the 1979 xmas number one). [14:20] hah [14:21] Roger Roger. [14:21] * popey puts Hey Joe on. [14:21] xnox: I may have to shoot you with a potato gun until the world runs out of potatoes [14:22] davmor2: rickrolling level 7 ;-) [14:22] popey: hey jude would be good too :) [14:23] xnox: Nothing beats this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h37KQu64RY4 === ondra|away is now known as ondra|away|away [14:29] popey: tainted love both the softcell and marlyn manson versions, Eurithmics and MM versions of Sweetdreams, kate bush and placebos versions of running up that hill (how's that for some then and now choices) === ondra|away is now known as ondra [14:31] cjwatson, xnox hey, I just did 'sudo click chroot -a armhf -s trusty create' and it created an amd64 chroot; is there an existing issue or am I doing something wrong? (I'm on trusty amd64) [14:33] davmor2: eye bleach eye bleach [14:34] xnox: you and your meagre level 7 pfffff, you could try the chicken song and startreking instead :) [14:36] sergiusens: that's what it's supposed to do [14:37] sergiusens: it creates an amd64 chroot including support for cross-building to armhf [14:39] cjwatson, ack; is there any wiki around? [14:39] sergiusens: not sure [14:41] cjwatson, so when I do "click chroot -aarmhf install cmake libgles2-mesa-dev python qt5-default qtbase5-dev qtdeclarative5-dev qt5-qmake" am I supposed to add :armhf ? [14:41] I guess I can figure it out [14:43] sergiusens: for anything that's multi-arch: same, yes, not otherwise. but it already installs several of those - qt5-default:armhf qtbase5-dev:armhf qtdeclarative5-dev:armhf qt5-qmake:armhf at least will already be installed [14:48] cjwatson, do I need -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE or is that done for me? Last question and just going into the code for more answers :-) [14:49] sergiusens: for the moment you need that [14:50] sergiusens: cjwatson: well, depends. for many cases you shouldn't need CMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE anymore. [14:50] but that's assuming you are executing cmake from inside the chroot. [14:50] (trusty one that is) [14:51] seb128, tedg: on the settings app on backgrounds, what happened to default image button? Also I think the different and same background toggle is broken [14:51] davmor2, it was never supposed to be there, it was a workaround because we were not listing images before, just having the gallery picker [14:51] davmor2, Guessing you mean kenvandine? We're close, but he's still better looking :-) [14:51] in the current version the default is in the image grid [14:51] so you can just pick it there [14:52] I don't know about the toggle not working [14:53] seb128: if I click on welcome screen or home screen, it just displays the image that is on it now not the default image [14:53] tedg, damn right! [14:53] davmor2, that's what it's supposed to do no? [14:53] xnox, I assume click chroot run, makes it run in the chroot; and in tht case, I'm not having much luck [14:54] seb128: but there is no listing of the original image so I can't change back to the default [14:54] davmor2, maybe you don't have the wallpapers installed? [14:54] kenvandine: I have what is in image 121 only? [14:55] the wallpapers aren't installed by default, we kind of need form factor specific wallpaper packages [14:55] yeah, it's basically empty in a default image, since there are no wallpapers packages installed [14:56] we don't want to pull in ubuntu-wallpapers because those aren't optimized for the form factors [14:56] we should have a phone/tablet wallpaper contest too [14:56] people love submitting pictures ;-) [14:56] kenvandine: okay so not a bug as such just an incomplete tool? [14:56] seb128, do you know if anyone is working on wallpaper assets? [14:56] kenvandine, not that I know, but I didn't ask either... [14:56] * tedg takes a photo of his coffee [14:56] davmor2, not incomplete tool... just missing wallpapers ;) [14:56] kenvandine, I'll get more at lunch! [14:57] :) [14:57] kenvandine: indeed so it feels incomplete to an end user :P [14:57] yeah [14:57] xnox,sergiusens: ok, I guess all I meant was that "click chroot run" doesn't pass it. If cmake doesn't need it any more, so much the better [14:57] seb128, so it does mean that the "default" wallpaper isn't in the grid [14:57] tedg: is your coffee like kenvandine but his is better looking? [14:57] since the default in the image isn't in the standard location [14:58] kenvandine, good point, I didn't think about that, we should have the image in the standard location [14:58] davmor2, I'm actually really happy with my coffee right now, so I think I have kenvandine beat there. [14:58] you probably do... [14:58] davmor2, What kenvandine doesn't know is looks will only get you so far. Good coffee brings you the world! [14:58] :-) [14:59] * kenvandine needs more coffee! [14:59] I actually (literally this week) learned I could order the beans from a local roaster online which solves some of my supply problems. [14:59] http://www.oakcliffcoffee.com/ [14:59] do they deliver with drones ? [14:59] need more drones [14:59] one per bean ! [15:00] Hah, that would be awesome. [15:00] They do deliver closer to downtown. But not this far out. [15:00] * davmor2 is tired of people droning on about drones, bring on the I, Robots [15:11] tvoss: ah, so it seems https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/qtubuntu-sensors/cmake-setup-take-2/+merge/200826 is really close now :) [15:11] pitti, yup [15:14] bfiller, so did ya'll think of any technical reasons that two telephony stacks would be bad? [15:15] mterry: we think it will be ok, just needs some testing [15:15] probably some tweaks and such [15:15] bfiller, OK. You saw my latest email, where I think we may have to do two stacks anyway? Does that sound reasonable? [15:16] mterry: yeah, sorry haven't responded yet. think that should be ok [15:16] makes sense, we forgot about that use case [15:16] yeah me too [15:17] bfiller, I'll comment in my branch then, but I think it should be good to try to land if we're doing the two-stack thing [15:21] jdstrand, hey, wrt to sensors/easyprof: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6727092/ [15:24] sergiusens: hrmm, why is it shelling out? [15:25] sergiusens: can you file a bug on /etc/xdg/QtProject/Sensors.conf [15:26] bfiller: do you know why the calendar is shelling out? see sergiusens paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6727092/ [15:27] jdstrand, it's address-book-app and I just caught it [15:27] renato_, might know [15:27] bfiller: sorry, address book app [15:27] jdstrand, took we a while to figure out what you meant my shelling out :-) [15:29] i am not using sensors on contact app [15:29] should be something related with the SDK [15:29] renato_, nah, disregard sensors, the call to /bin/dash is the question [15:30] renato_, Jan 10 10:55:34 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 437.380466] type=1400 audit(1389362134.865:129): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" parent=1527 profile="com.ubuntu.address-book_address-book_1.0.1.121" name="/bin/dash" pid=3106 comm="exec-line-exec" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=32011 ouid=0 [15:30] I do not know :D, what can cause it? [15:30] that is weird [15:30] renato_: its a new denial. what's changed recently? [15:31] jdstrand, it's being clickified now [15:31] content hub ? [15:31] dpm: ping [15:31] sergiusens, jdstrand that's part of qtsensors-ubuntu [15:31] sergiusens, jdstrand it's a configuration file to tell qtsensors to load our backends [15:31] sergiusens: address book is not yet a click though - that hasn't landed yet [15:32] sergiusens: or has it? [15:32] bfiller, nope [15:32] tvoss: sure-- but why is the address book all of a sudden needing /bin/dash? [15:32] jdstrand, that I don't know [15:32] tvoss, it's not related to sensors; as the camera as click works fine with sensors blocked [15:32] maybe it is doing it since it couldn't read the file [15:32] sensors.conf that is [15:33] sergiusens: can you add the '/etc/xdg/QtProject/Sensors.conf r,' to the address book profile and try again? [15:33] jdstrand, sure [15:33] jdstrand: is this on a released image? address-book-app hasn't been released since 11-15-13 [15:33] I mean updated since then [15:34] jdstrand, I did it to the easyprof, but you are doing it the right way :-) [15:34] bfiller: sergiusens just pointed it out to me now. it sounds not === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:46] bfiller: so, this might not be anything new. the addressbook app is not normally confined but it is in this scenario [15:46] bfiller: so this could have always been there. when we do confine it, we'll want to know why and probably fix it [15:47] jdstrand, ok, that got rid of my DENs [15:47] oh, nice! :) [15:47] sergiusens: can you file a bug on /etc/xdg/QtProject/Sensors.conf? [15:48] jdstrand, on easyprof for that? [15:48] sergiusens: apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu [15:48] sure in any case [15:49] tedg: xnox is seeing lots of RecoverableProblem apport reports for upstart on Touch - can you remind us why/where these are coming from? [15:50] jodh, I think that was the restart issue. HUD reports one if it doesn't have a session bus variable when it starts. [15:51] jodh, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/hud/trunk.14.04/view/head:/data/hud.conf.in [15:51] tedg: ah, right. I wonder if there is a way to actually log a message in that type of problem report stating the condition that failed (to avoid future confusion :)? [15:51] tedg: thanks [15:51] jodh, You should be able to look at the duplicate signature === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:52] tedg: what does that mean? DuplicateSignature: icon-path-unhandled-com.ubuntu.notes_notes_1.4.235 IconPath: /usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.notes/notepad IconValue: notepad [15:52] jodh, I'd be happy to add other variables if that'd help [15:52] yeah, it's a bit opaque atm :) [15:52] xnox, That's from the click hook. It means they have an icon configured that doesn't exist. [15:53] tedg: excellent. [15:53] * jodh goes to raise a feature-request on apport... [15:53] tedg, what's the policy there? some are provided by ubuntu-mobile icons [15:54] sergiusens, I think that click packages should be self-contained, no? [15:54] sergiusens, We're not looking in icon themes... [15:55] * tedg likes being able to write software to report bugs for him :-) [15:55] It's kinda meta-lazy [15:56] tedg: i wish you'd file it against the actual app, but i guess filing it against /sbin/init makes people go "OMG!" and try work out what's going on. [15:57] xnox, Yeah, that's not as easy as I'd like. apport likes reporting on PIDs, but you don't always have that. [15:57] bzoltan1: ping [15:57] mhall119: hello [15:57] bzoltan1: hey, we just recently got QtFeedback working, and I want to post the API docs for that, but I'm not sure if they should go into the existing SDK 1.0 docs section, or if I need to start a new SDK 2.0 (or 1.5) section === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:58] mhall119: good question.. I think it is fine in the 1.0 [15:58] ok [15:58] same for QtMultimedia I assume, since that's actually been available for quite some time [15:59] didrocks, sil2100 can I ask you for a review: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/qtubuntu-sensors/cmake-setup-take-2 [16:00] jodh, Also FYI, you can search based on the duplicate signature: https://errors.ubuntu.com/bucket/?id=DBusSessionAddressNotSet [16:00] cwayne, pong! [16:00] jdstrand, renato_ a new batch; dbus ones now http://paste.ubuntu.com/6727292/ [16:04] dpm: hiya, just checking if you had a chance to check out that list of translation gaps (and wondered if those html pages are useful) [16:04] tedg/xnox: bug 1267919. I appreciate you could actually add that today as an extra name/value pair, but I'd still prefer if apport mandated a description personally :) [16:04] bug 1267919 in Apport "Enhance recoverable_problem to require/allow a description of what the problem is" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1267919 [16:05] err yes, absolutely [16:05] jodh: but it already does that, it reads the key/value pairs on stdin [16:05] cwayne, I did, and they are useful. I've switched the language of my phone to Catalan, and I'm testing it [16:06] jodh: i. e. key\0value1\0key2\0value2\0 [...] [16:06] dpm: great! i'll spend some more time tweaking my scripts and keeping those pages up-to-date then :) [16:06] pitti: I know, so ted could add RecoverableProblemReason today, but it would still be nicer if you *had* to set a description. [16:07] ah, so basically just define one mandatory key which you have to set [16:07] sure [16:08] pitti: right. [16:08] cwayne, cool, thanks. Also, would you have some time for a trivial review? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/account-plugin-evernote/sandbox-notice/+merge/201165 === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [16:08] pitti: human readable e.g. "the problem of a missing icon from a click hook of a user level click-package. See key-value pairs: x, y, z for more details." [16:09] pitti, Do you expect that key to be "RecoverableProblemReason"? [16:09] dpm: approved with a quick question [16:10] tedg: ATM I don't expect anything; I've never used that feature myself, it came from ev [16:10] * tedg would like a grace period where he just gets recoverable problems if he doesn't include it :-) [16:10] tedg: but something like that sounds fine, or just "Description:" [16:10] tedg: the machine readable detail should go into DuplicateSignature [16:11] Yeah, I just wanted to decide on the key name so I could start to include it. [16:11] I don't really care what it is, just want to do it right. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:13] * tedg will bbiab [16:16] pitti: can we make it "TedSays:" field =) [16:19] bfiller: were you able to get an answer about whether or not infographics APIs should be used by 3rd party app devs? [16:20] mhall119: the api's are in place, they have not been reviewed by SDK team or guareenteed to not change [16:20] but they do exist and work [16:20] mhall119: think it's more a question for the SDK team to see if these are officialy part of the kit [16:21] cwayne, awesome, thanks. Responded to the comment. Would you mind top-approving too? https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/account-plugin-evernote/sandbox-notice/+merge/201165 [16:21] bfiller: hey, is the ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery going to be put in a click-app as well? (like gallery-app, et al are) [16:22] dpm: done :) [16:22] bzoltan1: ^^ nik90 wrote a nice tutorial on using the infographics API that I'd like to publish on developer.u.c, can you give a +1 or -1 on whether or not that API can be considered part of the SDK [16:22] cwayne: I don't know [16:23] Anyone know if Tethering is working in Ubuntu-Touch yet? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [16:26] Darkwing, not yet [16:26] Darkwing, you can enable rndis support for the android gadget from cmdline via adb and manually set it up i suppose ... [16:27] ogra_: I'm more thinking to connect my chromebook and tablet. Okay, I'll wait. === ricardodrosales is now known as ricdros [16:46] beuno: does the click store support translations for the app name and description? [16:47] mhall119, it does [16:47] in the appstore UI [16:47] perfect, thanks [16:48] beuno: also, is there a way to file bugs against apps in the store? I have several that don't display an icon once installed [16:48] mhall119, there isn't, each app has their own support mechanism [16:49] ok [16:53] beuno, i remember i had to fill a bug link when submitting my clicks, is that publically exposed somewhere ? [16:53] sergiusens: I don't doubt it-- there are probably going to be a lot since we haven't profiled addressbook app. is this for a work item? [16:54] ogra_, it will be soon, in the scope and a web ui I'm planning [17:05] sergiusens: where do the contents of the click packages get installed? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [17:08] bfiller: either /opt/click.ubuntu.com/, /usr/share/click/preinstalled/, or /custom/click/ i think [17:08] cwayne: great thanks [17:10] bfiller, there also stuff in /home/phablet like in .local === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [17:31] tedg: did I get the syntax right here? it's failing for me using onClicked: Qt.openUrlExternally("appid://com.ubuntu.gallery/gallery/currentVersion") [17:31] but worked with onClicked: Qt.openUrlExternally("appid://com.ubuntu.gallery/gallery/2.9.1") [17:32] bfiller, No, you need "current-user-version" instead of "currentVersion" [17:32] tedg: ah, thanks [17:32] sorry I forgot to write that down the other day [17:32] np [17:33] tedg: and it's ok to use appid:// instead of appid:/// ? [17:33] bfiller, Yes, because the package name is a valid domain name. [17:33] ok [17:36] tedg, I saw your branch for fat packages is merged now. Any idea when it's going to be build for trusty? [17:36] labsin, No, unfortunately I don't. [17:38] :/ something else. Can I somewhere find a list default packages for touch (so I know which libs I need to add myself. [17:42] labsin, you can check the build manifest, but be aware its still changing [17:42] rsalveti, uploaded linux-mako 3.4.0-4.22 to c-k-t PPA after rebase against android-msm-mako-3.4-kitkat-mr1 [17:43] rtg: awesome, just in time, thanks! [17:47] pmcgowan, Yes, I was looking for that. I only found for the desktop [17:47] Could you point me to them? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW [18:04] kenvandine: where in content-hub are apps launched? in process of moving gallery from deb to click and guessing we'll need to update it's appid url to invoke it [18:04] that shouldn't need any changes [18:04] it uses libupstart_app_launch [18:05] so doesn't actually use a url [18:05] uses the appid to launch it [18:06] oh... but we will need to change the default in gsettings [18:06] if the appid is changing [18:08] kenvandine: right [18:08] so just needs to be changed in the gsettings schema [18:09] kenvandine: currently is gallery-app, guessing it would need to be com.ubuntu.gallery? not sure of exact format [18:09] using Qt.openUrl I pass appid://com.ubuntu.gallery/gallery/current-user-version [18:09] i think so [18:09] let me try it [18:10] bfiller, does "upstart-app-launch com.ubuntu.gallery" start it? [18:10] kenvandine: trying === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [18:13] bfiller, click pkgdir [pkg] [18:13]