| ochosi | hey Noskcaj | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| Noskcaj | hey ochosi | 00:30 |
| ochosi | just went through the notes and saw that powerman fixes are now in debian | 00:31 |
| ochosi | (meeting-notes i meant) | 00:31 |
| ochosi | does that mean all three fixes from suse? | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/desktop/branches/experimental/xfce4-power-manager/debian/changelog?view=markup nothing actually in Debian yet. | 00:34 |
| ochosi | :/ | 00:35 |
| ochosi | well i'm optimistic that we'll get those fixes upstream | 00:38 |
| ochosi | but i'm not sure whether upstream will get a powerman-release in time for 14.04 | 00:38 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, slickymaster, jjfrv8: (assuming I got your name pings right)... I'll be migrating my server to a new host this weekend, so there will probably be some downtime for my dokuwiki | 00:38 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: as long as you back everything up nicely, that's fine i guess ;) | 00:39 |
| bluesabre | that's the plan anyway :) | 00:39 |
| ochosi | good plan | 00:39 |
| ochosi | don't forget to back up the screenshots as well | 00:39 |
| slickymaster | let us know the new host afterwards | 00:39 |
| ochosi | slickymaster: i presume the domain will remain the same | 00:40 |
| bluesabre | I'm keeping my domain, so when it comes back up everything should be the same | 00:40 |
| ochosi | or do you wanna know the IP of the site? | 00:40 |
| slickymaster | no, I assume that the domain would change, also | 00:41 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, You might want to check what fixes are there, you should probably talk to corsac about it. http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/desktop/branches/experimental/xfce4-power-manager/ | 00:56 |
| bluesabre | ali1234: thanks for the memory leak fix | 02:30 |
| slickymaster | morning all | 09:39 |
| elfy | o/ | 10:01 |
| slickymaster | hi elfy. Good morning | 10:04 |
| elfy | good morning to you too :) | 10:04 |
| lderan | good morning :) | 10:14 |
| elfy | hi lderan | 10:14 |
| lderan | oh elfy, i will be able to do a fair bit more work for you over the coming weeks \o/ | 10:22 |
| elfy | well - it's not actually for me :p | 10:23 |
| elfy | but that's good :) | 10:23 |
| elfy | unless you've not got a job atm ... | 10:23 |
| lderan | well for the cause :P | 10:23 |
| elfy | :) | 10:24 |
| lderan | being turned into part time | 10:24 |
| elfy | getting somewhere with autopilot will be awesome | 10:24 |
| elfy | oh that's rubbish :( | 10:24 |
| elfy | lderan: if you see something on the blueprint that has the wrong staus - change it :) | 11:21 |
| lderan | elfy: will do | 11:21 |
| elfy | that's all that task is :) | 11:22 |
| lderan | okay :) | 11:23 |
| elfy | lderan: also of course - if you want to do any of the tasks - just make sure to assign yourself so everyone knows | 11:26 |
| elfy | even if I've got them assigned to me :) | 11:26 |
| lderan | :) will do | 11:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh btw | 12:15 |
| pmjdebruijn | I asked about gnome-keyring a while back, as I wanted to disable the gpg part of gnome-keyring | 12:15 |
| pmjdebruijn | with a digging I see gnome-keyring is started by xfce4-session, which is disablable via preferences | 12:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | after which I enabled gnome's own gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop file | 12:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | now my gpg smartcard works nicely again :) | 12:16 |
| ochosi | pmjdebruijn: cool, good to hear :) | 12:19 |
| ochosi | does that mean you can spend the free time you gained from that just now to write that simplistic screen-gamma tool? ;) | 12:20 |
| pmjdebruijn | haha unlikely | 12:22 |
| pmjdebruijn | sorry | 12:22 |
| pmjdebruijn | I will do a writeup about that though | 12:23 |
| pmjdebruijn | for other users to reference @gnome-keyring | 12:23 |
| ochosi | pmjdebruijn: sounds good, was mostly kidding ;) | 12:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | ochosi: guessed as much, thus the "haha" :) | 13:04 |
| ochosi | well for the unlikely case that you would have had time for that, it'd have been a nice suprise | 13:05 |
| ochosi | if you know someone else who'd be interested to write that, lemme know | 13:05 |
| ochosi | btw, the official submission period for xubuntu wallpapers ends on the 13th | 13:06 |
| ochosi | xnox: can | 13:07 |
| ochosi | xnox: can't remember for sure whether i asked you about this already, but this merge/upload would be really important for xubuntu (currently trusty live-sessions don't work because of this): https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-default-settings/session-fix/+merge/198177 | 13:08 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, I added your "what's new" recommendations to the whiteboard | 14:48 |
| * slickymaster damns is internet connection | 15:55 | |
| eric_the_idiot | slickymaster, the xfdesktop usage docs look good! Thanks for working on it | 17:54 |
| slickymaster | no problem eric_the_idiot. I've enjoyed working on it | 17:55 |
| slickymaster | is there anything else you'd like to be addressed? | 17:55 |
| eric_the_idiot | it looks like you covered it all | 17:56 |
| slickymaster | great, glad to ear it, eric_the_idiot | 17:59 |
| slickymaster | ochosi: ^^^ looks like it's done, besides the multi monitor part that you said you'd do it | 18:00 |
| slickymaster | elfy or knome, any of you around | 18:14 |
| elfy | kinda | 18:15 |
| slickymaster | apparently something went wrong with bug 1262583 | 18:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1262583 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "1599_Orage test has to be reviewed and corrected" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262583 | 18:16 |
| slickymaster | the tracker is still showing "Display setting" instead of "Calendar window" | 18:16 |
| slickymaster | and I think it was some mixed up thing I've made with my MP, so I'll reopen the bug to correct it and later propose a new MP | 18:17 |
| slickymaster | what do you think? | 18:17 |
| elfy | the branch is all correct is it? | 18:18 |
| elfy | the main branch that is | 18:18 |
| slickymaster | no, the test in the branch is oddly wrong | 18:18 |
| slickymaster | I think, let me check | 18:18 |
| elfy | ok | 18:19 |
| elfy | I'm in and out of the room at the moment | 18:19 |
| slickymaster | elfy: the main branch is correct | 18:19 |
| slickymaster | did you update the branch when you merge my MP? | 18:20 |
| slickymaster | update the tracker^^ | 18:20 |
| elfy | done | 18:22 |
| elfy | thought I did - perhaps I didn't | 18:22 |
| slickymaster | elfy: yeah, the tracker is updated and showing the correct test | 18:22 |
| slickymaster | thanks | 18:23 |
| elfy | I'll be looking over the xubuntu application testcases this weekend before I do a call for those to be tested next week | 18:24 |
| brainwash | eric_the_idiot: hey, were you able to reproduce the xfdesktop 4.11 theme issue (race condition after login) or find some explanation for this scenario? if no, should I try to debug it somehow? | 18:25 |
| slickymaster | elfy: the numbers of tests seem to raise a bit | 18:25 |
| elfy | reported do you mean? | 18:27 |
| slickymaster | yes | 18:27 |
| elfy | yep - call did make some difference :) | 18:27 |
| elfy | they might be getting the message now all the people in -testers get spammed by me too :p | 18:28 |
| slickymaster | :) | 18:28 |
| elfy | biab - just doing a tortilla :p | 18:28 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8: has done quite a few | 18:28 |
| slickymaster | I'm off -> | 18:32 |
| jarnos | brainwash, is that VIRTUAL1 display visible in xrandr output somehow connected to light-locker? | 19:43 |
| brainwash | jarnos: why would you think so? | 19:47 |
| jarnos | brainwash, well you told it uses another VT or something.. | 19:48 |
| brainwash | I assume it's related to a multi monitor setup | 19:48 |
| brainwash | virtual1 like in virtual screen | 19:48 |
| jarnos | brainwash, but I have not seen it before even if I have haf multi monitor setup. | 19:48 |
| brainwash | you were able to switch to another vt before you have installed light-locker | 19:49 |
| brainwash | light-locker is just a daemon to trigger lightdm actions | 19:50 |
| brainwash | well, try #xorg | 19:52 |
| brainwash | jarnos: were you able to resolve the screen blanking issue? | 19:55 |
| jarnos | brainwash, I was inspecting it | 19:56 |
| brainwash | jarnos: but you haven't created a bug report yet, or? | 20:00 |
| jarnos | brainwash, yes | 20:00 |
| brainwash | might be related to your graphics card + driver | 20:01 |
| brainwash | so a report could help to keep track of this problem and resolve it sooner | 20:02 |
| elfy | sergio-br2: by the way - bug 1267742 | 20:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1267742 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "Screen artifacts appear after restart and cold boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1267742 | 20:03 |
| brainwash | ^ that's a security issue? | 20:04 |
| brainwash | oh, I should have read the comments first | 20:05 |
| sergio-br2 | elfy, i got this with kernel 3.13 | 20:05 |
| sergio-br2 | but it seems it is less than with 3.12. Dunno | 20:05 |
| elfy | sergio-br2: yes - same with both here | 20:05 |
| elfy | brainwash: yep - security as far as I'm concerned - and probably those people who's details on the forum I have complete access too | 20:06 |
| sergio-br2 | it's funny to see Windows things in xubuntu login screen | 20:07 |
| brainwash | strange, how does the previous screen content survive a restart.. :D | 20:07 |
| sergio-br2 | so it's a security issue :D | 20:07 |
| brainwash | mmh, the package maintainer might complain about the lack of log files | 20:09 |
| jarnos | brainwash, have you tried the greeter in multi monitor setup? | 20:11 |
| brainwash | are other greeters or gdm affected too? | 20:11 |
| brainwash | jarnos: no | 20:11 |
| elfy | sergio-br2: it is if I have someone's forum control panel open and am looking at their e-mail/infraction record and I happen to restart and then wander off - the login screen is left with all that information sitting there | 20:12 |
| sergio-br2 | or if you was accessing your bank... | 20:13 |
| brainwash | so it's clearly related to kernel 3.13? | 20:14 |
| sergio-br2 | not exactly | 20:14 |
| elfy | brainwash: no - I got it with the previous as well | 20:14 |
| sergio-br2 | yeah, here too | 20:14 |
| brainwash | during the whole trusty dev cycle? | 20:15 |
| elfy | brainwash: "mmh, the package maintainer" you talking about me there? | 20:15 |
| elfy | yep - whole cycle - I think that bluesabre has some idea of a hack to deal with it - but not seen him since | 20:15 |
| brainwash | package maintainer is the "Ubuntu X-SWAT" team | 20:16 |
| elfy | are you talking about my bug? | 20:17 |
| brainwash | would be interesting to know, if it only happens with lightdm-gtk-greeter | 20:17 |
| brainwash | yes | 20:17 |
| elfy | I'll probably get that penalvach telling me to go sort stuff out with gedit etc | 20:17 |
| brainwash | see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | 20:17 |
| elfy | he'll get a short sharp shock | 20:17 |
| brainwash | this name looks familiar | 20:17 |
| elfy | probably becasue I was complaining about it the other evening ;) | 20:18 |
| brainwash | maybe this too | 20:18 |
| brainwash | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1098334/comments/184 | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1098334 in xf86-video-intel "[gen4 sna] Font corruption" [Medium,In progress] | 20:18 |
| brainwash | :) | 20:19 |
| brainwash | is he the new sheriff in launchpad town? | 20:19 |
| elfy | no idea | 20:21 |
| elfy | funny thing is - once I'm booted I get no issues with either nouveau or nvidia - it is just restarts and boot | 20:22 |
| elfy | come to think of it - I got a similar thing when we were looking at the xmir thing | 20:23 |
| elfy | so current state of play here is - use nouveau and get this issue or install nvidia and have to fiddle about to get the machine to boot properly | 20:23 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1267442 | 20:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1267442 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "Install nvidia-331 on Xubuntu results in unbootable machine" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:24 |
| brainwash | you didn't test any other login greeter yet, right? | 20:24 |
| elfy | being the other bug I reported | 20:24 |
| elfy | nope | 20:24 |
| brainwash | you could test it with unity-greeter, but make sure that you don't install any of the recommended packages | 20:25 |
| brainwash | otherwise it will pull a dozen of extra packages | 20:26 |
| elfy | :) | 20:26 |
| elfy | command to set the greeter option ? can't remember it of the top of my head | 20:27 |
| brainwash | /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 20:30 |
| elfy | or edit lightdm conf | 20:30 |
| elfy | yea | 20:30 |
| elfy | nothing amiss that time - I'll run with it for a day or so - or until it happens | 20:33 |
| elfy | brainwash: ^^ | 20:33 |
| brainwash | ok :) | 20:34 |
| elfy | so - at least if we know it's not every greeter we have half a chance with it | 20:35 |
| knome | jjfrv8, you around? | 20:41 |
| knome | elfy, you around? | 20:46 |
| elfy | yep | 20:48 |
| elfy | what's up? | 20:48 |
| knome | elfy, can you confirm if you still have the bug in the staging website? | 20:48 |
| knome | whether we use the navigation buttons, i'd like to fix that bug if possible | 20:48 |
| knome | elfy, can you also confirm me which version of firefox you are using | 20:49 |
| elfy | knome: ff 26 - which bug do you mean? | 20:49 |
| knome | the one with the misplaced nav buttons for the slider | 20:50 |
| knome | actually, the slider itself looked like it was misplaced... | 20:50 |
| elfy | yep - they aren't lining up if that's what you mean | 20:50 |
| knome | hmm, right. | 20:51 |
| knome | let me poke at it and get back to you soonish | 20:51 |
| knome | i'm actually somewhat sure what it is... | 20:51 |
| elfy | ok - I'm about for a while tonight - had a sleep about a couple of hours ago lol | 20:51 |
| knome | ok, i'll try to be quick ;) | 20:52 |
| elfy | no rush :) | 20:52 |
| elfy | I still wonder if we really need them though | 20:52 |
| knome | no, but i want to fix it | 20:52 |
| knome | if we later decide we want them | 20:52 |
| elfy | yep - understand :) | 20:52 |
| knome | is it fixed now? | 20:53 |
| knome | (boo for not being able to reproduce) | 20:53 |
| elfy | nope | 20:53 |
| elfy | hangon - I'll -safe-mode f/fox | 20:53 |
| knome | i wonder if you are forcing the use of some fonts | 20:53 |
| elfy | possible | 20:54 |
| knome | because i'm thinking that might be the culprit | 20:54 |
| knome | or some font sizes... | 20:55 |
| elfy | ok - looks right in chromium | 20:55 |
| knome | yeah.. | 20:55 |
| knome | it's definitely a browser/setting-specific issue | 20:55 |
| elfy | I set fonts to ubuntu and in advanced it's serif/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu mono with allow pages to choose enabled | 20:56 |
| knome | aha | 20:57 |
| elfy | I'll remember that if you ask me to look at things again - I'd hate to be wasting your time and it's only me seeing it :) | 20:57 |
| knome | well no, it should be fine for you as well | 20:57 |
| knome | there *are* ways to fix that | 20:57 |
| knome | if i just knew what it is :P | 20:57 |
| elfy | LOL | 20:57 |
| knome | font sizes? 16? | 20:57 |
| knome | and minimum font size? | 20:57 |
| elfy | font sizes are 12 and on advanced page 12 for serif/10 for monospace and minimum is 12 | 20:58 |
| knome | mhm | 20:58 |
| elfy | right so setting the default to 16 the nav button now drops right down inside the screenshot | 20:59 |
| knome | mhm | 20:59 |
| knome | i'll look at that | 20:59 |
| knome | mhm | 21:00 |
| elfy | odd - set it to 12 again and reloaded the page | 21:00 |
| knome | it should be fixed now for any value | 21:00 |
| elfy | the top of the nav button is nowmore or less level with the bottom of the top panel | 21:01 |
| knome | thanks for debugging :) | 21:01 |
| knome | huh? | 21:01 |
| knome | ctrl+shift+R | 21:01 |
| elfy | is that what you're aiming for ?^^ | 21:01 |
| knome | i just fixed it for me | 21:01 |
| knome | no... | 21:01 |
| knome | it should be on top of the shot | 21:01 |
| knome | let me send a screenie | 21:01 |
| elfy | ok - yep - just above | 21:01 |
| elfy | no - it's looking like you describe ^^ | 21:02 |
| knome | okay, good | 21:02 |
| knome | as it should :) | 21:02 |
| knome | now we can go and disable those... | 21:02 |
| elfy | still don't like the straight edges though :p | 21:02 |
| knome | like matti nykänen said: | 21:03 |
| knome | elämä on laiffii | 21:03 |
| knome | "life is life" | 21:03 |
| elfy | yep :) | 21:03 |
| knome | i'm sure won't all ever agree on single details if we start arguing | 21:03 |
| elfy | I use 'such is life' with regularity :) | 21:03 |
| knome | *we | 21:03 |
| knome | yeah, but that's different ;) | 21:03 |
| knome | than nykänen's quote... | 21:03 |
| elfy | indeed - if we all agreed on stuff all the time - it would be really boring | 21:04 |
| lderan | that it would be | 21:07 |
| elfy | hi lderan | 21:08 |
| lderan | hello :) | 21:08 |
| elfy | hi xequence | 21:10 |
| elfy | I keep trying to ze<tab> ... | 21:10 |
| knome | heh | 21:11 |
| elfy | oic why now | 21:14 |
| elfy | one of each on the forum | 21:15 |
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