holsteinsimplisity: there is a mint deban edition and one based on ubuntu.. i dont konw which you tried00:00
simplisityholstein, just the latest Mint Petra XFCE... i just read on the forums that all xfce editions are now based on debian00:01
simplisityanyhow, i still like Mint-Cinnamon a lot... just not so much luck with the xfce00:02
holsteinsimplisity: they have support channels00:02
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:02
holsteinotherwise, we can go to the ot channel.. i see nothing above that makes me think anything is relatd to an issue with any specific distro.. more likely kernel support for your device00:02
simplisityok yeah that could be true00:03
aurumI installed Xubuntu 12.04.03 and it said to reboot. I rebooted and all I get is a purple screen with a white ubuntu and 5 orange dots. No mouse pointer or response from the keyboard. I selected log me in automatically.00:49
holstein!tty | aurum this is what i would try00:50
ubottuaurum this is what i would try: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution00:50
aurumNothing, I tried, ctrl + alt + F1 + add F6 and also ctrl+alt+F1 then ctrl+alt+F6. Also, ctrl+alt+F1 then F2 then F3 the F4 then F5 then F6. I also tried "!tty |". Ok so you now know it's the first time I tried Linux :-)00:56
holstein!nomodeset | aurum00:58
ubottuaurum: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:58
holsteinaurum: did you get to a live desktop from the installer?00:58
aurumI installed from a usb drive using Unetbootin. I had a desktop somewhere along the line. BTW, I have 5 video cards plugged in, maybe I should unplug 4 of them.00:59
aurumDo I type? explanation mark nomodeset space pipe01:00
holsteinaurum: no.. nomodeset is an option you can run01:00
holsteinaurum: i would consider simplyfiying your configuration for a while01:01
aurumOk, I'll disconnect 4 cards. Back in a sec01:02
aurumJust like magic!!! Now I've got a desktop with just one video card :-)  Now to see if I can install AMD drivers.01:04
holstein!amd | aurum01:06
holstein!ati | aurum01:07
ubottuaurum: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:07
Noskcajholstein, We should  get that factoid updated, since ati as a brand has been gone for 4 years01:25
aurumIt wants to install updates but it says it failed to load package. I tried firefox put cannot get any web page. It looks like my wired connection to my ethernet is right.01:25
holsteinaurum: what are you trying to do?01:32
aurumThe desktop popped up Update Manager with 216 updates (231.6 MB) it wants to install.01:33
aurumI looked for the linux pc from my win7 pcs and they do not see it???01:34
holsteinaurum: ok.. do you want to update the system?01:34
holsteinaurum: see what?01:34
Noskcajaurum, windows can't see normal linux partitions, but linux can see window01:34
aurumI thought it was needed. I do need to  DL a driver: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Linux%20x86_64&rev=12.801:34
holsteinaurum: for what?01:35
aurumDoes x86_64 signify an Intel CPU?01:35
aurumOr just 8086 architecture01:35
aurumCatalyst 12.8 drivers for my Radeon HD 5970 video cards.01:36
Noskcajaurum, If the cpu is made by intel, it's intel. x86_64 means it's for 64-bit linux01:36
GridCubex86-64 (also known as x64, x86_64 and amd64) is the 64-bit version of the x86 instruction set.01:37
holsteinbut the driver is in the repos as well.. you dont need to download it from the site01:37
holsteinaurum: i suggest closing the web brwoser, and finishing the upgrades, and rebooting.. then, you can refer to the link i linked earlier01:38
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:38
aurumthe repos??? It offered me a couple of proprietary drivers sans names.01:38
holsteinaurum: it?01:38
aurumThis is day one for me, I assume you want me to type " !ati " somewhere, but where?01:39
holsteinaurum: what do you need the proprietary driver for?01:39
aurumit be Xbuntu01:39
holsteinaurum: no.. !ati asks the bot to give the link it gave.. to the information on installing the driver you may or may not need01:40
holsteinaurum: why are you installing the proprietary driver? is something missing?01:40
holsteinaurum: have you applied all the upgrades?01:40
holsteinthis is the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:41
aurumNo, the update manager said "Failed to download package files"01:41
holsteinaurum: then, reload it and try again01:41
holsteinaurum: after closing the browser.. if it fails again, let me konw and we wil use the terminal01:42
aurumI've tried a few times by closing Update Manager and re-opening it. I also rebooted.01:42
holsteinaurum: close everything.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" withouth any ""'s.. run that and share error messages01:43
holsteinaurum: and? you ready for the next step?.. anyways, when you are, assuming you have no errors use the command "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"..01:46
aurumholstein, I can't get Update Manager to run. I also cannot get firefox to go any web page. It says i have a wired connection01:51
holsteinaurum: ok01:51
holsteinaurum: close *everything* .. the update manager.. the web browser. anything else you may have open01:51
aurumeverything's closed but the desktop01:52
holsteinaurum: open *only* a terminal.. and type/copy/paste the following without any quotation marks.. "sudo apt-get update" then, run that by pressing the enter key, and let me konw if there are any error mesages01:52
holsteinthe next step, if no errors is "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"01:53
aurumTook me a while to find the Terminal. sudo apt-get update gave me the same list of "cannot resolve http://..."01:59
holsteinaurum: sounds like you have connectivity issues01:59
holsteinaurum: you should try and reboot if you think eveything is OK on the network01:59
aurumI'm at a loss, the other 3 win7 PCs on the same switch just plug in and auto discover the network. How do I discover the network in linux? The network page says I'm at all my other PCs are at 192.168.1.xx02:02
aurum192.168.10.1 is a wireless router plugged into the switch. I'll try unplugging it.02:02
aurumDLing!!! Unplugging the wireless router from the switch and restarting Ubuntu and it was assigned to, right where it should be.02:05
aurumIt's now applying changes, looks like it'll take a while.02:06
aurumholstein, thanks for your patience :-)02:06
blubaustinI got doom 3 installed on my xubuntu 13.10, but I am not getting any sound. Any ideas?02:38
holsteinaurum: glad you got it worked out02:52
blubaustinalright I'll try again.03:47
blubaustinI have doom 3 native to linux, and I'm not getting any sound03:47
blubaustinI believe it has to do with, it uses OSS instead of alsa, as of 12.04 I think they removed OSS03:48
blubaustinout of the kernel, any ideas03:48
fibz_install oss orr the swiss army knife of sound?04:43
nsommerbyAnyone here good with audio issues?09:30
elfynsommerby: it really is best just to ask the question - then if anyone can answer you they will09:30
nsommerbyWell, the issue I'm having is that my media players (VLC, Spotify) aren't producing any sounds, though everything else is working just fine.  How do I get the media players to work again?09:31
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.09:36
nsommerbyAs far as I know, the settings are fine.  Spotify was even working just fine only a couple of weeks ago, and I haven't gone in and changed any of the audio settings.09:40
nsommerbyand it plays system sounds as well as internet videos (IE Youtube) normally.  It's just the media programs themselves that are having the issue.09:42
Prickelttest_196If I want to learn to use Xubuntu, can I rely on the Ubuntu documentation?12:30
knomePrickelttest_196, try the xubuntu documentation first12:30
knomePrickelttest_196, then refer to ubuntu documentation to fill in the blanks12:30
slickymasterPrickelttest_196: you have the Xubuntu official documentation available at http://docs.xubuntu.org/12:30
knomeor the section "help" in the applications menu12:31
Prickelttest_196thanks guys!12:38
xubuntu768hi, i recently installed KXStudio alongside Xubuntu....now when i turn the computer on i have KXStudio in the boot menu and what i assume are 3 different versions of Xubuntu, or 3 different versions of the kernel. 3.11.0-15-generic, 3.11.0-14-generic and 3.11.0-12-generic. Do i need all of them?12:50
cfhowlettxubuntu768, I don't recall that KX studio is using a custom kernel so I'd say can probably safely kill some of the older kernels.  But ... y u no install ubuntustudio?12:51
xubuntu768i have ubuntustudio on my other computer, was just testing KX to see what it was like :)12:53
xubuntu768KX uses 3.8.0-32-lowlatency apparently12:54
cfhowlettxubuntu768, suggest you keep it.12:54
xubuntu768will do thanks :) was just surprised first time i saw the boot menu.....it was a mess lol12:56
mio6Good afternoon, I have some serious issue with chromium-browser. Any page I try to visit (excluding localhost pages) returns Aw Snap issue.13:45
mio6I've tried all the solutions offered online, that is removing my user profile, disabling all extensions and I've even disabled all plugins. Am I the first to encounter this issue?13:46
Guest493create a new user in Xubuntu and try chromium from there13:47
Guest493also free some RAM memory13:48
mio6care to explain how that may help?13:48
mio6I also have no ram issue :-(13:48
Guest493that would guarantee it's not fault of other Chromium's dotfiles in your current user account13:53
mio6that won't lead me to finding the issue though, and it would be somewhat troubling making a new user here now. thanks for the suggestion however13:54
mio6ok error exists even for other users14:00
Guest493I would ''apt-get --purge remove chromium-browser'' and then reinstall it14:03
mio6still no help with that. I have to leave now, so I submitted a bug for this package14:24
delttrying to install latest rosegarden... what should QTDIR be set to?14:45
deltoh, seems like i need to install qt4-dev-tools14:54
horrowhey everybody i want to ask why when i start my FIREFOX LAUNCHER xubuntu relogs my pc account? and not start?16:23
john_rambosuggest me a gui backup tool capable of doing incremental backups to usb drive16:34
Guest493john_rambo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync#Solutions_using_rsync16:38
therazrHi what version of xubuntu do you recommend me? 12.04 or 13.10? Thanks16:38
Guest493john_rambo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2596/comparison-of-backup-tools16:39
Guest493therazr: if you do not mind reinstalling (or upgrading + fixing some possible little bugs) every 6 months, and/or have the need for recent versions of programs: 13.1016:40
Guest493Otherwise, 12.04 which is supported for 3 years16:41
Guest493Also be aware that 14.04 will be the next Long Term Support.16:41
therazrGuest493: Thanks :). Which do u use by the way?16:41
Guest493I use 12.04 for my parents and 13.10 mysef16:41
therazris it safe to upgrade to 14.04 once it is out?16:41
Guest493therazr: it's supported. Upgrades to the subsequent version are supported.16:44
Guest493Upgrades from LTS to LTS are also supported (e.g. 12.04 -> 14.04).16:44
therazrOk thanks :) I'll go with 13.10 since next one is an LTS16:45
Guest493therazr: let me point you to the 13.10 Release Notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu16:46
Guest49312.04 --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#Known_Problems16:47
therazrGuest493: Anything special I should care about?16:47
Guest493the known issues/problems.16:49
Guest493that's more something you care adfter installation, I just wanted to give you the link in advance for future reference16:49
therazrGuest493: thanks man, I'm downloading it now16:52
Orioa|2does anyone know this..i have edited the lightdm-gtk.conf to use a wallpaper but it does not change16:53
Orioa|2ive also tried changing it with ubuntu tweak but nothing happens16:54
holsteinOrioa|2: did you try tweak first? does tweak support the version you are using?16:54
Orioa|2yeah ive tried everything i could think of as well as googling it16:55
holsteinOrioa|2: im loosely suggesting, something you may have tried could be breaking something16:56
Orioa|2dunno what else i can do16:57
holsteinOrioa|2: im the kind of guy who will go and rename the file, and leave the config alone16:57
Orioa|2yeah didn't think of doing that but also didn't think i would of broken it lol16:58
ubottuUbuntu Tweak is a tool that automates some things; however, it is potentially dangerous, and an informal review of its code is pending. Most of the things it does can be done by the use of other tools. Please don't ask for or provide support for it in Ubuntu support channels.17:04
holsteinOrioa|2: im not sure that you are having an issue becuase of using tweak.. i just know its a "red flag"17:04
Orioa|2k ty found simply lightdm manager17:05
johny_hello sir17:18
xubuntu339Good morning, I have a somewhat difficult question to spring on you all, Is it possible to dual boot windows 8 and xubuntu? I got a new computer this Christmas and to my horror it had windows 8 installed, consequently I now wish to install linux of some description alongside windows 8, Is it possible? If so, is it particularly difficult?17:28
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot17:28
holstein!uefi | xubuntu339 also relevant17:28
ubottuxubuntu339 also relevant: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:28
timbermaniacDoes anybody know what's going on with Mir in the future, since Intel doesn't seem as though they'll be supporting it?17:29
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir17:29
holsteinthough, i think it has been moved to later17:29
xubuntu339Thanks for the help, it is much appreciated.17:30
timbermaniacholstein: From the wiki page, it doesn't say anything about Intel - only mentions closed-source driver vendors. I hope Mir will simply be an option and we can continue to use X when it's released.17:33
holsteintimbermaniac: AFAIK, there will be xmir or whatever emulation.. and, potentially, that emulation layer may not cause a performance hit at all, if the underlying tech changes17:35
timbermaniacholstein: "We do not condone or support Canonical in the course of action they have chosen, and will not carry XMir patches upstream."17:36
holsteintimbermaniac: but, X apps will work.. im not an mir dev though.. no doubt, things are changing.. im sure applications will run somehow17:37
timbermaniacholstein: I'm not an expert on graphics by any means. I'm only concerned if I will have to move away from Xubuntu in the future to something like the Fedora Xfce spin, due to Mir17:39
holsteintimbermaniac: you never "have to" do anything.. im sure applications will run, and you can choose to run what you like17:40
holsteintimbermaniac: its going to be a long migration with lots of "legacy" support issues17:40
Itsameis there a way to stop my username from appearing in the top panel?17:41
Itsamewithout removing that menu completely17:42
timbermaniacItsame: I believe that's the 'full name' and not actually the username17:43
Itsameoh yes, could be too17:44
ItsameI don't want my name there as I use my laptop in public places17:44
Guest493right-click the panel >> select Remove, or select Panel >> Panel Preferences >> the Items tab17:45
holsteinGuest493: i believe Itsame wants to keep the panel item. just with a blank name space17:45
holsteinItsame: i believe timbermaniac is implying you could change the users full name to null17:46
Itsameyes or just an icon17:46
Guest493choose Properties and set the Appearance field to Action Buttons17:46
Itsameah yes, it's an improvement. however, now I got many icons instead of one17:47
timbermaniacThat's a good solution for when you're in public places.17:47
Guest493or you could change the information in /etc/passwd (5th field) but I've not tested that17:47
timbermaniacCould always just change your username.17:47
Guest493There must be a way to do it with a command or a gui configuration panel, though.17:47
Guest493Ok, I could do it in this way: open Settings manager >> Users and Groups >> select your user >> click Change next to your name at the top17:49
Guest493Itsame: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^17:52
ItsameThanks for the help :)17:55
xubuntu726how long xubuntu 12.04 LTS has support?19:30
xubuntu439Hi all19:32
xubuntu439my keyboard and mouse crash when i'm trying to install. Any ideas?19:33
xubuntu439I've tried changing the bios settings]19:34
TheSheepwhat do you mean that your keyboard crashes? you drop it on the floor?19:35
TheSheep!lts | xubuntu43919:35
ubottuxubuntu439: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)19:35
TheSheepxubuntu439: sorry, wrong nick19:35
xubuntu439sorry, freezes I menat19:36
xubuntu387New here; desperately seeking for ways to connect my Huawei T-Mobile Inet to XUbuntu 12.04. Is it possible >?19:37
TheSheepxubuntu387: no idea, have you tried googling it?19:38
xubuntu387what do you mean "googling"19:39
TheSheepxubuntu387: searching for it using google19:39
xubuntu387Allrighties, I'll try asking the inet, mostly use Yahoo for that19:40
TheSheepxubuntu387: you might also try searching the forums19:41
TheSheep!forum | xubuntu38719:41
ubottuxubuntu387: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. Kubuntu Forums are found at http://www.kubuntuforums.net. There is also a channel on freenode IRC #ubuntuforums19:41
TheSheepxubuntu387: by the way, if it works with ubuntu, it should work with xubuntu19:41
TheSheepxubuntu439: there isn't much information we can use19:42
TheSheepxubuntu439: any error messages? anything in the logs?19:42
xubuntu439I'm new to linux, but if I can't install then would it produce logs? And where?19:43
xubuntu387The T-Mobile inet sticks use Windows and/or Mac OS10.4 and so on.19:43
xubuntu387As far as I know none are developed for linux in NL or Eu yet...19:44
xubuntu387So it's like trying to install Win-app in Linux19:44
TheSheepxubuntu387: I'm sure there are people who tried to make it work, and some of them might have written about it19:45
xubuntu387In Xubuntu it fails as soon as autoexec setup started19:45
xubuntu387I've heard of it working in regular Ubuntu earlier19:45
koegsyou can check the usb-id with "lsusb" and then see if somebody tried to use that in ubuntu19:46
xubuntu387It's my internet connection19:46
xubuntu387These thing apparently come China and firmwares are pre-developed for several OS's19:47
koegswhat is the exact name and usb-id? you might have more look trying with the exact name + ubuntu or the usb-id + ubuntu19:48
xubuntu387have to go now, thank you for yr attention19:48
xubuntu439I got it working, just changed more settings then tried stuff in different usb ports19:52
elfyOrioa: earlier you were here trying to sort out a login screen image? did you get that sorted21:20
elfy".i have edited the lightdm-gtk.conf to use a wallpaper but it does not change"21:21
elfydid you try lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf21:21
DF3D2lubuntu uses xfce power manager right?21:35
knomethis is the xubuntu support channel, i would ask in #lubuntu21:35
DF3D2jesus people don't read21:35
knomei did; you asked about lubuntu21:36
DF3D2i'm using the xfce power manager that is bundled with lubuntu21:36
knomeno, you asked whether lubuntu uses that21:36
DF3D2right im asking about an xfce app21:36
DF3D2it seems to ignore the do nothing on laptop lid close setting21:37
brainwashDF3D2: bug 122202121:38
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202121:38
DF3D2brainwash, thanks21:40
DF3D2I set the triage setting someone suggested21:40
xubuntu158hi, is anybody can help me about cron ?21:56
somanWhere can I see changelogs for ubuntu? I want to know changes between 12.04 and 12.04.3 for example23:05
TheSheepsoman: it's all on launchpad.net23:07
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