[03:44] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[03:45] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[03:47] <ahoneybun> how u doing?
[03:48] <valorie> good, the contractor got well
[03:48] <valorie> and i got locally-roasted coffee beans today
[03:48] <valorie> v. good day
[03:48] <valorie> how about you?
[03:49] <ahoneybun> nice
[03:49] <shadeslayer> valorie: i am ~70% through looking for alaska
[03:50] <valorie> how does it compare with stars?
[03:50] <shadeslayer> John Green has radically changed my perspective about the world in the last 12 hour's
[03:50] <valorie> errr, the fault in our stars
[03:50] <valorie> in what way?
[03:50] <shadeslayer> maybe radically is too strong a word
[03:51] <valorie> how did his books change your perspective?
[03:54] <shadeslayer> Not sure how to put it in words, but I now think alot more deeply about things, how things that appear something on the surface might just be an abstract idea and might represent something else entirely
[03:55] <valorie> that's true
[03:56] <valorie> what I got from looking for alaska is how amazing life is, and that we have to enjoy it NOW
[03:56] <valorie> since everything can change so quickly
[03:58] <shadeslayer> valorie: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/629719-but-it-is-a-pipe-no-it-s-not-i-said
[03:59] <shadeslayer> one of the more awesome quotes
[04:01] <shadeslayer> also, both the books i have read have a very depressing finality of the human condition to them and then John seems to go to great lengths to then reveal things about some person even after theyre dead
[04:01] <valorie> in some ways finality is depressing
[04:01] <shadeslayer> *depressing sense of the finality 
[04:01] <valorie> but it would be worse if we all lived forever
[04:02] <valorie> and I've lost enough loved ones to say that they might be dead, but they aren't gone
[04:02] <shadeslayer> not really, some people/religions view it as a release from the physical world and you evolve into a higher consciousnesses
[04:03] <shadeslayer> or somethin
[04:03] <shadeslayer> which is nice, think about not having to worry that your computer is kaput
[04:03] <shadeslayer> or that a pipe broke
[04:04] <shadeslayer> and your house is now flooded
[04:04] <valorie> for me it isn't religious or whatever
[04:04] <valorie> and yes, they all got release in one way or another
[04:04] <shadeslayer> i am just saying that certain religions view it as that
[04:04] <valorie> right
[04:05] <valorie> for sure, since it is one of the central mysteries of life
[04:07] <shadeslayer> also made me realize one of my core issues that has been eating away at me for a couple of months .... but i need to write those down on a computer
[04:09] <valorie> a book that brings out your core issues is great!
[04:09] <valorie> even if painful, which Looking for Alaska was for me
[04:14] <shadeslayer> yep
[04:14] <shadeslayer> also i think looking for alaska is way darker
[04:15] <shadeslayer> i found the fault in our stars tamer than looking for alaska
[04:19] <shadeslayer> valorie: I want to read http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ebook/an-abundance-of-katherines next
[04:19] <valorie> sounds good
[04:20] <valorie> I'm stuck in reality right now, reading The Brothers, about John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles who ran the US foreign policy in the 50s
[04:20] <valorie> so depressing
[04:20] <valorie> interesting, but damn
[04:22] <shadeslayer> alright gtg
[04:31] <valorie> have fun in India, shadeslayer
[05:38] <ahoneybun> valorie: so translations should start soon
[05:43] <valorie> yes, I'll write to the translators this weekend
[06:10] <ahoneybun> sounds great
[08:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw for the kde developer meta package do I just write a Desktop file and app-install-data extracts info from it?
[08:43] <shadeslayer> or does it require something more elaborate
[08:43] <shadeslayer> I am not entirely sure how the app-install file thingy works
[10:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no clue
[12:17] <apachelogger> read the source I'd say
[13:06] <Quintasan> http://i.imgur.com/ttlIUS8.png
[13:06] <Quintasan> hurr
[13:06] <Quintasan> why can't I into QML
[13:45] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[23:32] <ahoneybun> did not see you on valorie
[23:37] <ahoneybun> I put myself on a list of nomines for the new Ubuntu FL LoCo community council
[23:40] <valorie> great!
[23:41] <ahoneybun> yep not expecting too much but still