[14:11] Hello World! [17:52] 9 mins til the meeting starts guys [17:53] Good to see I did my gmt calculations right [17:53] haha [17:55] Call it whatever ya want but I'm on my windows box but I hate it [17:56] So the NSA is probably reading this [17:56] NSA prob reads everything regardless of choice of OS [17:57] hi all [17:57] eh sudo apt-get install freedom and hi [17:57] only way to be safe from NSA is to disconnect from the internet [17:57] but if you do that computers are far less enjoyable [17:57] yes yes they are [17:58] I need my facebook omgomgomgomgmog [17:58] lolwut [17:58] I need my launchpad hahaa [17:58] You could set up an encrypted local messaging system [17:58] using I2p you could even tunnel it around the internet [17:59] Sounds like a lot of work Lol of course the pizza is ready now with two minutes to go [17:59] I'm sure that information is very valuable to the NSA [17:59] Hi, just give me few mins, dad on the phone :'( [18:00] Yepp okay ali [18:00] No Problem [18:00] Hi amjjawad, collin, f-jack [18:00] Hello to all [18:00] Hi! [18:00] Is Frederic here? [18:00] He said he would be [18:01] Hello davidy. Yes collin, i'm Frédéric :) [18:01] Hi, Forgive me If I don't add the accents to your name as our meeting progresses [18:01] :) [18:02] lol I know those are a pain I have a french class and I hate them [18:02] It's not that, it's just the ancient 90s PS/2 keyboard I'm using [18:03] Great typing feel, just little extra functionality [18:03] retrocomputing? [18:03] Okay, give me one min to wash my face [18:03] brb [18:03] okay [18:04] Definitely, although the computer I'm on is currently pretty modern (AMD A10), I like to use 2005-earlier when I can [18:04] I have a thinkpad from 2009 and i love the thing [18:05] Yeah, I use a 2007 Thinkpad as my laptop and it's wonderful [18:05] oh amd I'm jack by the way [18:05] collin: Yes, I speak French, uses a azerty keyboard. :) [18:05] so everyone is here? [18:05] yes [18:05] I think so [18:05] it seems David is not here (not sure what is his IRC name) [18:06] David is here [18:06] Exactly haha [18:06] YAY :D [18:06] I have no super secret NSA covername [18:06] ok shall we start? [18:06] Sounds good [18:06] yes we shall [18:06] #chair amjjawad [18:07] #startmeeting Ubuntu GNOME New Mods Meeting [18:07] Meeting started Sat Jan 11 18:07:39 2014 UTC. The chair is amjjawad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:07] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:08] first of all, hello and welcome everyone :) [18:08] Hello [18:08] Hi [18:08] Hey [18:08] This is our first meeting for Trusty Tahr Cycle and on this meeting, we shall discuss some important topics for our tasks on this cycle :) [18:08] Yes [18:09] #topic Roles [18:09] Trusty Tahr is definitely our most important release to date [18:09] o/ [18:09] It's gonna be the first release I'm with the ubuntu gnome team [18:09] Okay, I shall keep talking (typing) and before I move to the next topic, if anyone has any Q, please ask :) [18:10] OK. I open the eyes. Yes, here we read. :) [18:10] Are there any commands I should be familiar with besides the ones that meetingbot gave when we started? [18:10] First, thanks for accepting my call of help and thanks for joining. The Roles that we will discuss here will define the tasks and set a plan for you guys to work on. [18:11] collin, don't worry about that, it is me who is charing the meeting ;) [18:11] ok, tahnks [18:11] so, back to topic :) [18:11] agreed [18:11] basically, what we need is Moderators for Google+ Community and Facebook Page. [18:11] I can do both [18:12] guys, let me finish :D [18:12] sorry [18:12] after this meeting, everyone who is interested is required to edit this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/social-media-moderators [18:13] mention clearly that you are interested in helping with Google+ and Facebook OR just one of these. [18:13] Your role will be very simple :) [18:13] (1) Moderate Posts [18:14] (2) Any Topic that is non Ubuntu GNOME related the OP should be warned and if he/she will repeat that, there is another warning. If he/she will do it again, then that user will be removed. [18:14] In all cases, the off-topic posts will be removed. [18:15] (3) NO SPAM whatsoever. Any Spam post will be removed right away and the Spammer is out without any Q [18:15] (4) we need to understand and agree to one thing: our Social Media Sites/Channels are not Support Channels. While it is okay to ask simple Qs and answer that, serious issues should never be discussed over there and users must be directed to: [18:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs [18:16] (5) Maintain a super high level of Communications between the team members (us) and between Ubuntu GNOME Team and the world. [18:17] Basically, these are the basic roles/tasks that you guys will work on. [18:17] If you have any Q, please ask so we can move to the next topic :) [18:17] Understood [18:17] I understand [18:17] o/ I have a question... [18:17] sure [18:18] ... Did you take attendance or are we all here? [18:18] clear to me [18:18] We're all here [18:18] Other than that everything's clear. [18:18] SonikkuAmerica, no need to waste time for that :D there will be a log for this meeting so those who missed it, they can go back to the public log :) [18:18] OK. [18:18] ok :) [18:18] great :) [18:18] #topic Tasks [18:19] I have already mentioned the tasks with the the Roles Topic :P but there is one thing that I did not yet mention. [18:20] While we are all keen to work on Quality, we do need Quantity as well. So, one of the tasks for the Mods will be trying to spread the word of Ubuntu GNOME :) [18:20] Got it [18:20] You are not required to overkill yourself. All what you need to do is (just like me), keep talking about Ubuntu GNOME :) [18:21] Also, a super important task: Make Sure to always interact with the users of the social areas. Even if someone says "hi", reply that :) this will build a strong relationship between team members and the users of our system. [18:22] Also, (this is no3 so far): while your main tasks are the Social Media, it is good if you could answer some emails we receive every now and then on our Mailing List. [18:22] okay [18:22] You are not the ambassadors of Ubuntu GNOME :D you are the front line of our system. I hope you know what I mean ;) [18:23] yep [18:23] Any Q about this topic (Tasks)? [18:23] (We're going into combat?) [18:23] All set here. [18:23] will those e-mails be on the main ubuntu gnome mailing list or the communications team list [18:23] SonikkuAmerica, yes indeed. Spreading the word of Ubuntu GNOME will never be easy ;) [18:24] What I have done with Lubuntu for two years, must be doubled or tripled with Ubuntu GNOME and my mission might be easy because this team, there is a team working on the same task :D [18:24] So, I am very much positive we will do wonders ;) but together - All of us are smarter than anyone of us ;) [18:24] YES [18:24] Shall we move to the other topic? [18:24] yes [18:24] yes [18:24] Lead on. [18:24] I'm set [18:25] #topic Activity [18:25] Okay, I am sure you guys know that I am expecting you to be super active, right? :D [18:25] yes [18:25] of course [18:25] but of course, I don't want you to burn out like me :P [18:25] :D [18:25] :) [18:25] 1000% :p [18:25] haha [18:25] If you can offer minimum 1 hour daily, that is SUPER GREAT. [18:26] I do know that some are always online ;) me and Uallas for example :D [18:26] and I know some others can't be always online. [18:26] All in all, we are required to be active and sometimes very active. [18:26] I do school during the day but I'm always checking facebook and stuff [18:26] Due to my job, I can offer 1hr four days a week and maybe more at times [18:27] That shouldn't be too hard. However, as a student there may be some nights I will need to prioritize studying for exams etc.. [18:27] One thing that I forgot to mention on the Tasks Topic: Do not worry about any kind of announcement, I am on this. [18:27] I can do two-three hours a day [18:27] but 1 hr should be fine almost every day [18:27] :) I'm a college student; we do weird things. [18:27] davidy, that is more than enough ;) [18:27] don't worry about the "1 hour" subject [18:27] okay [18:28] I have a quick comment: [18:28] as I mentioned one can offer 5 hours daily, one can offer 5 per week. [18:29] If you use iOS or Android, check out Facebook's Pages Manager app. When you log in, it'll show you all the pages you admin, and you can perform admin tasks on those pages from your phone or tablet. [18:29] That's really useful, thanks! [18:29] The most and the highest priority is: activity on the mailing list. We MUST communicate to each other as one team. One family. No member of this family do anything unless communicate to his family member. This will lead to a super active and super effective team. And, there is nothing will stand in our way if we do that. [18:29] Good Tip, SonikkuAmerica :) [18:29] I agree [18:30] Good :) and by the way if I am fast, ask me too slow down. I type too fast and I don't want you to be lost of confused :D [18:30] or* [18:31] So, I am done with Activity Topic. Any Q? [18:31] Nope, all set. [18:31] None here [18:31] ready for #4 [18:31] #topic Quality vs Quantity [18:32] I think the title says it all. Our target was, is and will forever be: Quality. [18:32] I don't care if we have 1000 subscribers but we are the best ever in the quality we have. [18:32] I've seen pages with over 80K users but ... poor quality. [18:33] It would be wise to hire a moderator, asian, or new zealand, australia, for the time zone. It increases our presence. [18:33] we have really good people on our team quality shouldn't be a problem [18:33] Just for the record: Ubuntu GNOME Social Media Channels (Twitter, Facebook and Goolge+) are, by far, the most 'active' channels among all the other flavors!! [18:33] * SonikkuAmerica cheers [18:34] Not to mention the channels for the proprietary guys! [18:34] That, didn't come from nothing. That happened because Quality is what we care about, then Quantity. [18:34] f-jack, I am not talking about the Quality of our system. [18:34] Nice to be with a great team [18:34] That is for the QA team to worry about :P [18:34] I know [18:34] I am talking about something much more important. [18:35] The quality of our community and family. [18:35] Yes ;-) [18:35] This must be our highest priority. [18:35] Yes [18:35] I am sure davidy knows what I am talking about :D [18:35] yes [18:36] Of course. It's waht sets us aprt [18:36] *apart [18:36] I am insisting and keep repeating "Quality vs Quantity" because I want to make sure ALL of us here are aware of this and promise to remember that :D [18:36] so, do we ALL agree? [18:36] +1 please [18:36] I agree [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 [18:36] Shall we swear it on an Ubuntu GNOME computer? [18:37] haha sure [18:37] Hahah, no it is okay, I trust you all :D [18:37] OF course:) [18:37] Any Q? [18:37] no [18:37] none [18:37] nope [18:37] #topic Communications: Internal vs External [18:37] if it is not yet clear, please ask me to explain more in details :) [18:39] Internal = communications on the Ubuntu GNOME Marketing and Communications Team Mailing List AND the Main Mailing List = this must be on high standard and on active basis. We keep everyone informed of what is going on. Remember, not everyone on Facebook or Google+ so it is always our job to keep everyone in the loop :) [18:39] hey ali what is the email for our comms list? [18:39] External = Our communications with the outside world. Be careful, our users on Google+ area are different. They might give you some hard time so I trust you can handle that :D [18:40] f-jack, every mod must join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms [18:40] nvm i got it [18:40] #action every mod must join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms [18:40] ACTION: every mod must join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms [18:41] #action everyone mod needs to edit this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/social-media-moderators [18:41] ACTION: everyone mod needs to edit this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/social-media-moderators [18:41] any Q? [18:41] None again [18:41] Speaking of the bueprint... [18:41] no [18:41] yes SonikkuAmerica [18:42] no Q [18:42] ... did someone translate my words into French and paste it back on the blueprint? [18:42] SonikkuAmerica, let's talk about that at the end of this meeting. I don't see French on your comment! [18:43] OK [18:43] #topic Ubuntu GNOME Marketing & Communications Team [18:43] Hello and Welcome to the ultra fun, massive experience and great new skills [18:44] That is what this team is made of and willing to do :) [18:44] Marketing and Communications. [18:44] Haven't studied that? nor ever heard of it? nor have been there? NO problems :) [18:44] Ali, I edited the blueprint. Is there any info you need to add us? [18:44] It is time to learn new stuff and do great things [18:44] f-jack, not now :P [18:45] let me finish please [18:45] okay sry [18:45] So, you see, I am not planning to recruit new moderators only for our channels. I am trying to build an empire here. [18:45] A super strong active team that will take Ubuntu GNOME to the top 10 of best Linux Distributions. [18:46] Can we do that, guys? [18:46] Yes we can! [18:46] Yes we can [18:46] ... Yep. [18:47] Uallas, and davidy ? [18:47] Yes, yes :) [18:47] yes, sry feeding my son [18:47] perfect :D [18:48] any Q? [18:48] no [18:48] No sir. [18:48] no [18:48] none [18:48] SonikkuAmerica, don't sir me, please :P [18:48] Sorry...? [18:48] SonikkuAmerica, never mind [18:48] nope [18:48] okay lmao [18:48] Okay, I will stop right here and hear from you [18:48] I think Uallas had a suggestion? [18:49] as per the agenda that I asked you guys to edit :P [18:49] #topic Uallas suggestions [18:49] "Ubuntu GNOME on Jabber (XMPP)" - no more channels for now :D [18:51] " Publication on facebook and G+. Shall we publish information on Linux in general, Open Source software, tutorial, etc.. " case to case. If these information is related to Ubuntu GNOME then yes, I don't mind. Otherwise, there are lots of other pages doing that on our behalf :D so, we don't really need to waste our energy and time over that :) [18:51] Uallas, I answered your two Qs so any thing else? [18:52] No, ok for me :) [18:52] Uallas, ok good :) [18:52] f-jack, you too edited the agenda :) anything you would like to add? [18:53] Keep up the good work, nah I thought we had to lol [18:53] f-jack, will sure do :) we all shall do ;) [18:53] SonikkuAmerica, anything to add? [18:53] Not for now. [18:53] davidy, anything? [18:53] hope I didn't forget anyone :D [18:53] no, good for now [18:54] okay, before I end the meeting, is there anything related you'd like to say or ask? [18:54] All set :) [18:54] So what do you need to be able to make us admins? [18:54] #action amjjawad to give Mod access to members with no access yet [18:54] ACTION: amjjawad to give Mod access to members with no access yet [18:55] #action amjjawad to make sure everyone have a Wiki Page + Launchpad Account + Signed the CoC + Member of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms [18:55] ACTION: amjjawad to make sure everyone have a Wiki Page + Launchpad Account + Signed the CoC + Member of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms [18:55] yes, do we have an organized presence on Ubuntu Forums to answer question? [18:55] f-jack, add me on fb and Google+ [18:55] and okay [18:56] davidy, beside me, there is Lance but that is all what I know. Other people help as well but they might not be part of our family. [18:56] I will edit the blueprint for my G+ activity [18:56] davidy, if anyone of you are able to be on the Ubuntu Forums that is super great :) [18:57] I can. [18:57] davidy, that is great but make sure not to overdo it nor burn out :P (look who is talking) [18:57] All work and no play......... [18:58] I'll do the ubuntu forums three or four times a week [18:58] @everyone we may need another meeting but we can decided that later on the mailing list ;) [18:58] amjjawad: Error: "everyone" is not a valid command. [18:58] I have an account on Ubuntu Forum but I do not speak, I'm on the French Ubuntu-fr [18:58] and I did what ya told me to [18:58] Hey, at least with steam on linux we can play without switching over :) [18:58] everyone we may need another meeting but we can decided that later on the mailing list ;) [18:59] Okay [18:59] by the way [18:59] sounds good! [18:59] Yep [18:59] make sure not to CC the main mailing list unless there is something very important. [18:59] got it [18:59] Let's keep our internal communications within our sub-team and if there is something important, we can CC the main list :) [18:59] yes [18:59] collin: I still have to switch to Windows to play my Steam games, but we're getting a little OT [19:00] understood [19:00] great :D [19:00] * SonikkuAmerica thumbs-up [19:00] I do steam on ubuntu haha [19:00] Anyting at all you would like to add? [19:00] Nope [19:00] no [19:00] nope [19:00] Nope. [19:00] Okay then, I'd like to thank you a lot for attending. This is by far my best meeting on IRC :D Thank you for your time and for attending. [19:01] Thanks for chairing it [19:01] One last word: Keep Up the Great Work and Let's take Ubuntu GNOME to the next level :D HOOHAA [19:01] Thanks to all! [19:01] f-jack, at your service [19:01] HOOHAA! :) [19:01] no problem amjawwad, you are a great leader [19:01] agreed [19:01] 'WE' are a great family :D [19:01] lol [19:02] I am nothing without the family [19:02] Thank you for the meeting, it is clear, and we can begin to work positively. [19:02] Our loyalty to the family :D - Godfather Part 4 :P [19:02] #endmeeting [19:02] Meeting ended Sat Jan 11 19:02:27 2014 UTC. [19:02] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2014/ubuntu-gnome.2014-01-11-18.07.moin.txt [19:02] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2014/ubuntu-gnome.2014-01-11-18.07.html [19:02] Thank you again guys :D [19:02] you can see the links here, right? [19:02] Your welcome [19:02] no problem! [19:03] yes, and great meeting [19:03] yes and we have to re-do that again soon :D [19:03] yep [19:03] whenever anyone feels there is a need for a meeting, don't wait for me, just send an email ;) [19:03] and I'm going install trusty haha [19:03] soon, I might choose one of you to be an admin on the Launchpad Area ;) [19:03] Yeah, I need to install UG myself... [19:03] lol... [19:04] f-jack, yes, we need to be testers before anything else :D [19:04] I just need to start using my partition [19:04] it would be super bad if we ask people to test and we don't :P [19:04] Virtual machine guys ;) [19:04] Yep [19:04] until you have a machine for this [19:04] * SonikkuAmerica uses Ubuntu Studio (against Windows 8.1) on hard metal and Kubuntu in a VM at present [19:04] A virtual machine comes in handy! [19:04] davidy, indeed [19:05] I don't have a spare machine for Ubunut GNOME :( [19:05] I might use my main and if there will be smoke coming out, someone has to pay for it :P [19:05] Nah, Ubuntu GNOME has been a rock solid system [19:05] OHHHH YES YES I forgot :/ [19:05] Solve your overheating issues....? [19:05] Uh-oh...? [19:06] WE MUST make sure the whole world understand that we do need help for our LTS version [19:06] ops, I forgot to add that :'( [19:06] And, I need a Google+ Hangout on air [19:06] we need like QA session to promote Ubuntu GNOME [19:06] anyone who is not Camera Shy? [19:07] amjjawad: Oh, I should mention this while you're here: In a move of inter-flavor relations, the Kubuntu community has begun a one-stop landing for Kubuntu! http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/KubuntuLinks [19:07] we can do that next time [19:07] @SonikkuAmerica, u must share your U Studio experience w/ me sometime [19:07] davidy: Error: "SonikkuAmerica," is not a valid command. [19:07] (I helped kick-start it) [19:08] SonikkuAmerica, that page was created by you ;) [19:08] SonikkuAmerica, now, Ubuntu Communities have THREE OneStopPages :D [19:08] nice page [19:08] I am glad to see that :D well done! [19:09] It's not complete yet... I'm making a plea for Kubuntu Docs Team members to help [19:09] davidy: Gladly. BTW, didn't you just leave Lubuntu Comms? [19:09] hey guys, I'd love to stay and chat but I've gotta eat some lunch. :) [19:09] Great meeting! [19:09] Great job! that is what I wanted to see someday [19:09] collin, sure :D [19:09] cya soon and thanks a lot [19:10] amjjawad: A bit of sad news, though: Xubuntu has rejected the one-stop idea. [19:10] happy meal ... don't eat fast :P [19:10] I am gracefully departing Lubuntu Comms - I want to give them time to replace my role. [19:10] SonikkuAmerica, I am NOT surprised :D [19:10] someone has installed Trusty on VMWare? [19:10] amjjawad: knome has a Social Page on the Xubuntu Web site where that kind of stuff exists. [19:10] davidy, believe it or not, while I hide it, it is still killing me :( [19:11] I do QA for both Ubuntu Gnome and regular ubuntu and I do bugsquad as well lol [19:11] Ali, .....greener pastures, my friend [19:11] f-jack, keep it up and i have seen your emails on the QA list of Ubuntu ;) [19:11] I am everywhere :D [19:11] bye and yes u are [19:11] f-jack, take care [19:11] davidy, one day, things must change [19:12] but I do hope Lubuntu will remain and won't vanish [19:12] they didn't join the Alpha 1 :/ [19:12] There are reasons for that. [19:12] I hope they know what they are doing [19:12] SonikkuAmerica, which I know but I hate to discuss here [19:12] Mainly dealing with LXDE-Qt [19:13] There are good folks within Lubuntu...I wish them well [19:13] They have my full support if they need it. [19:13] But I am not going to jump in anymore [19:13] OK, I gotta go; I'll fix my part of the whiteboard later. See ya! [19:13] Okay, so I must do some Wiki Edit and send the links of the meeting [19:13] SonikkuAmerica, cya and thanks a lot [19:14] I guess I must go too :D [19:14] wait, someone was asking !! [19:14]