tony | was just using ardour3 and a plugin crashed it. Now both ardour and ardour3 are missing from the applications menu? | 00:00 |
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beefsalad | yeah, when i bought this laptop I had to use a daily build of the debian installer to get something on it...then had to roll my own kernel | 00:03 |
beefsalad | this PC is spiffy new hardware, so i may have something in the BIOS misconfigured as well | 00:03 |
beefsalad | UEFI is new to me | 00:03 |
* beefsalad facepalms | 00:14 | |
beefsalad | I dont think this is going to work with wireless | 00:14 |
toil | hello | 01:08 |
holstein | beefsalad: you shouldnt need any custom kernel to interface with uefi | 03:03 |
holstein | !uefi | beefsalad | 03:03 |
ubottu | beefsalad: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 03:03 |
holstein | i would try and keep it simple.. try the stock images. the live ones, and report what is not working | 03:04 |
holstein | most hardware supports linux these days | 03:04 |
* HarryHaaren notes holstein is a wizard with bots... | 03:04 | |
holstein | HarryHaaren: :) | 03:04 |
delt | Hello | 06:46 |
delt | how can i tell which process(es) are using the sound card? | 06:47 |
delt | i suddenly get no sound in firefox, but no other apps are open | 06:47 |
delt | logged out, log back in, still no sound | 06:52 |
angel | hello i'm trying to connect sooperlooper no sound | 10:40 |
angel | soeone can help me to connect sooperlooper i did with jack but it's the only application that not functioning at all | 10:42 |
beefsalad | delt: lsof /dev/mixer i believe | 13:48 |
beefsalad | holstein: thanks for the tips. ubuntu mini at least gets through the installer. now i am battling with boot | 13:54 |
skyemoor | 1st time here | 15:20 |
skyemoor | Just installed US 13.10 in dual boot | 15:20 |
skyemoor | Cannot change screen resolution, is stuck at 1024x768 while laptop display goes to 1600x900 | 15:21 |
skyemoor | It appears the actual display itself was not discovered. | 15:21 |
skyemoor | What can I do? | 15:21 |
skyemoor | I should note there are lower resolutions avaiable | 15:22 |
skyemoor | Restatement of issue; The only resolutions I am able to select from are 1024x768 or lower. The display capability of the Dell Inspiron laptop goes to 1600x900, and I've run Ubuntu at the resolution on this monitor before. | 15:24 |
skyemoor | Video card is NVIDIA GF119M | 15:25 |
skyemoor | What can I do? | 15:26 |
beefsalad | which driver is X using? | 15:26 |
skyemoor | How do I find that out? | 15:27 |
beefsalad | check /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 15:28 |
xequence | skyemoor: If you didn't install nvidia drivers separately, you're using the free ones, which are ok, but the proprietary ones might solve the problem for you | 15:29 |
skyemoor | It appears to be X.Org Video Driver: 14.1 | 15:30 |
skyemoor | Is that what you were asking about, or is it something else? | 15:30 |
xequence | skyemoor: To install the proprietary drivers, do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. Or use the gui tool "Software Sources", in the additional drivers tab | 15:30 |
xequence | skyemoor: You'll also see which driver is in use there | 15:31 |
skyemoor | It says it will install dkms fakeroot(?) nvidia-304 nuvidia-current and several others | 15:32 |
skyemoor | 40.5MB | 15:33 |
skyemoor | now looking under Software sources, and it gives me many options (confirms X-Org drivers) | 15:35 |
skyemoor | includes "Using NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel, and VDPAU library from nvidia-319 (proprietary and tested) | 15:36 |
xequence | installing prorietary drivers means a kernel module needs to be built for it. This is where dkms comes in, and fakeroot | 15:36 |
xequence | dkms also makes sure each time the kernel is update, a new module is built for it automatically | 15:37 |
skyemoor | Is it more straightforward to go with the driver I just noted above from "Software Sources? | 15:37 |
xequence | IT's the same thing | 15:37 |
xequence | To see all the options, do: apt-cache search nvidia | 15:38 |
skyemoor | ok, if what you say about dkms is true, then I'll go the command line route | 15:38 |
xequence | You'll see nvidia-319 as one of the installable packages | 15:38 |
xequence | The gui makes things simpler. Doesn't really matter | 15:38 |
xequence | I usually go with either nvidia-current, or nvidia-current-updates | 15:38 |
skyemoor | There are 4 options under Software Sources, 2 for 319, 2 for 304 | 15:39 |
skyemoor | Am taking the Software Sources route | 15:40 |
xequence | Once you've installed, if for some reason X is not loaded, and all you see is a command prompt, all you need to do is login, do: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-<version>, and things will be back to normal | 15:40 |
xequence | ...after reboot, that is | 15:41 |
xequence | That's the worst thing that can happen, btw | 15:41 |
skyemoor | Ok, downloading (will take a while, on WiMAX) | 15:41 |
skyemoor | I'm guessing you do a bit of midi, by your uname | 15:44 |
xequence | Not really. I just liked the name | 15:45 |
xequence | I do midi too though | 15:45 |
xequence | I'm the project leader for Ubuntu Studio, btw :) | 15:45 |
skyemoor | What are your preferred tools | 15:45 |
xequence | For midi? | 15:45 |
skyemoor | yes | 15:46 |
xequence | I mostly use pd for most things | 15:46 |
xequence | For midi I don't have a preferred choice really | 15:46 |
skyemoor | Pd? | 15:46 |
xequence | I like ardour3 since it has jack midi support. Alsa midi can suck pretty bad | 15:47 |
xequence | pd == pure data | 15:47 |
xequence | graphical programming language | 15:47 |
xequence | It's in the repo, if you want to have a look. A tidier, and more expanded version is pd-extended, available in ppa:eighthave/pd-extended | 15:47 |
skyemoor | Must say it is new to me. Is it strictly for graphics? | 15:48 |
skyemoor | Ok, that did the trick! Much appreciated, and I'm going to take a look at pd | 15:50 |
skyemoor | Have a great day, and thanks for heading up the Ubuntu Studio project | 15:50 |
xequence | pd is for audio first, but also does video | 16:02 |
holstein | !audio | delt | 16:04 |
ubottu | delt: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 16:04 |
holstein | beefsalad: you will "battle the boot" if the live CD wont boot on the hardware. i like to see a live CD boot up to the desktop, then i know the hardware supports the drivers in the kernel | 16:04 |
holstein | if i have issues getting to a live desktop, i know that, 99% of the time, even if i do get linux to install, it wont boot cleanly. the installed system will have the same issues the live CD has | 16:05 |
beefsalad | holstein: i think i may have had a bad burn unless ubuntustudio has changed a lot from ubuntu. | 16:06 |
holstein | beefsalad: "think" wont really help.. you can confirm then in the installer.. disk integrity check.. or.. | 16:07 |
holstein | !md5 | 16:07 |
ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 16:07 |
beefsalad | the mini installer works fine. i am aparently past UEFI issues as the minimal install works. my problem now is fakeraid | 16:07 |
holstein | beefsalad: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. it would be more likely you can boot ubuntu 12.04, and you are trying ubuntustudio 13.10.. with the version differences being the issue | 16:07 |
beefsalad | well... current plan is to just install the ubuntustudio-video package on this install | 16:09 |
holstein | current plan should be, boot the desktop, apply updates.. reboot.. test | 16:10 |
holstein | then, you can add what software you like | 16:10 |
beefsalad | true | 16:10 |
beefsalad | silly me, used to work where my kickstart does that by default | 16:11 |
xequence | beefsalad: Ubuntu Studio uses a different kernel from other Ubuntu flavors. linux-lowlatency does not have a signed kernel compatible with UEFI security | 16:14 |
xequence | The plan is to have it ready for 14.04 | 16:14 |
xequence | holstein: ^ | 16:15 |
beefsalad | ahhh | 16:21 |
holstein | you can always install and try the generic kernel | 16:23 |
santtu | Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu Studio and was wondering if it is the only way to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 by a DVD? | 16:28 |
santtu | I mean, is it impossible to upgrade via the upgrade manager | 16:28 |
holstein | santtu: it is | 16:36 |
holstein | santtu: i wouldnt | 16:36 |
holstein | santtu: you will go in order.. 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.10 | 16:36 |
holstein | santtu: 12.04 is an LTS, and 14.04 will be.. i would just wait, and you will be able to go 12.04 to 14.04 | 16:36 |
santtu | Okay. And is there a feature for upgrading on the DVD or does it require a fresh install? | 16:36 |
holstein | 14.04 will release in april (04) af 2014 (14) | 16:37 |
holstein | santtu: nothing "requires" anything | 16:37 |
holstein | santtu: if you want to upgrade from the internet, you do.. you use the upgrade manager | 16:37 |
holstein | when 14.04 releases, it will present you with the option to upgrade to 14.04 | 16:37 |
holstein | if it doesnt automatically in april, you can ask here | 16:38 |
holstein | i *always* prefer a fresh install | 16:38 |
holstein | i find, best case, an upgrade takes a little less than 6 hours or so, and the newer kernel supports everything and the system boots | 16:39 |
santtu | Okay. The upgrade manager doesn't show me 12.10. It says there aren't any upgrades available. | 16:39 |
holstein | if i get a live CD for the new version, i can see it running first-hand and test it in person.. and an install takes less than 20 miutes | 16:40 |
holstein | minutes* | 16:40 |
holstein | usually 8 minutes | 16:40 |
santtu | But I guess I'll just burn the image and make a fresh install | 16:40 |
santtu | thanks a lot | 16:40 |
holstein | santtu: you arent offered upgrades from lts to non-lts automatically | 16:40 |
holstein | just from, as stated 12.04 to 14.04.. lts to lts | 16:41 |
santtu | Oh, i see.. I was just recalling upgrading from lts to non-lts on ubuntu a few years ago, but I guess I'm wrong | 16:42 |
holstein | santtu: no.. its not "wrong".. its not offered by default | 16:42 |
holstein | santtu: you *can*.. you'll just have to go from 12.04, to 12.10.. then to 13.10.. and use that for a few more months.. then to 14.04 | 16:43 |
holstein | why not just wait and do it once? instead of, best case, maybe getting all this done in about 15 hours? | 16:43 |
santtu | Yeah I'll wait | 16:43 |
santtu | thanks | 16:44 |
santtu | btw, do you happen to know anything about the support of Lumia phones? | 16:46 |
santtu | Studio doesn't seem to even notice the phone | 16:47 |
santtu | I heard there is a better MTP support in 13.10 and thats actually my interrest for the upgrade anyway | 16:48 |
holstein | santtu: why would it "notice" them? | 16:48 |
holstein | santtu: ubuntu is the operating system.. lumia is always welcome and encouraged and able to support whatever operating systems they choose | 16:48 |
holstein | ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu with a focus on media production.. you might have a better chance in the larger #ubuntu community finding someone interested in and well verse in telephony | 16:49 |
santtu | what I am trying to say is that I can't transfer anything between my phone and my computer | 16:49 |
holstein | otherwise you can contact the lumia team, and let them konw you are interested in using the product in linux.. and ask them to support it | 16:49 |
holstein | santtu: most phones mount as a hard drive.. a "mass storage unit" | 16:50 |
santtu | Yeah I know | 16:50 |
santtu | But it doesen't mount at all | 16:50 |
holstein | santtu: maybe its a format that linux cant read.. have you researched if *any* OS can mount it as a hard drive? whats the file system? | 16:51 |
santtu | I dont "see" the phone on my computer at all | 16:51 |
santtu | well everything else has work fine till now | 16:51 |
santtu | Usb-sticks and older mp3-players have worked fine | 16:52 |
santtu | I was reading on a ubuntu forum that windows phone 8 and android are using some kind of protocol that doesen't work too good on 12.04 | 16:53 |
santtu | And I have actually no idea about the filesystem, and the phone doesenät tell me anything | 16:54 |
holstein | santtu: the company can.. have you searched about the phone? | 16:57 |
santtu | yeah, i found something about 520 | 16:58 |
santtu | wait a sec | 16:58 |
santtu | Your phone supports FAT32 for SDHC cards, exFAT for SDXC cards, with a single Master Boot Record (MBR) partition table. | 16:58 |
santtu | Up to 32-GB SDHC cards using the FAT file system. | 16:58 |
santtu | 64-GB SDXC cards using the exFAT file system. | 16:58 |
santtu | The internal user store is formatted in NTFS file system format. | 16:58 |
santtu | this one is 820 though | 16:59 |
santtu | but I guess they use the same filesystem | 16:59 |
holstein | santtu: thats what the phone can boot | 17:03 |
holstein | santtu: "your phone supports"... you need to know how, if the manufactuerer allows, how it presents itself to the computer when plugged in.. which may be, "not at all" | 17:04 |
santtu | Yeah that information I didn't find | 17:05 |
holstein | santtu: they may not offer it, so you wont find it if its not offered. you'll have to ask them "is it possible to mount my phone on a computer and if so, how?" | 17:06 |
santtu | I guess | 17:06 |
holstein | santtu: ubuntu nor linux will be able or allowed to provide that information.. | 17:07 |
holstein | santtu: i find "enable mass storage mode" http://www.asoftech.com/articles/windows-phone-enable-mass-storage.html | 17:08 |
santtu | too bad thats only for windows | 17:09 |
holstein | santtu: ? | 17:09 |
holstein | santtu: you try it, since they do not officially support linux and wont document "use the device like this in linux" | 17:10 |
holstein | santtu: you will enable mass storage mode, in hopes that it allows the machine to boot in a format that windows can read it, which linux would be able to read as well | 17:10 |
holstein | likely, fat32 | 17:10 |
santtu | But I don't have a Windows computer, I've got only this linux | 17:12 |
holstein | santtu: i understand that | 17:12 |
holstein | santtu: you use the same method since you wont read "how to mount the phone in linux" on the site | 17:12 |
santtu | okay | 17:13 |
holstein | santtu: the "mass storage mode" will likely work with linux.. you will try that and try mounting it | 17:13 |
santtu | ill give it a try | 17:13 |
holstein | santtu: it should just show up as a mass storage unit.. fat32 | 17:13 |
santtu | interesting. I can use my phone as a mass storage in nautilus, but not in thunar | 17:25 |
santtu | and the filesystem is mtpfs | 17:27 |
resizt0r | hello, when i try to open DVD Styler it pops up the language dialog, when i select my language nothing happens | 20:58 |
resizt0r | when i try to run it in terminal it gives an x window system error | 20:59 |
elice | wenas | 22:41 |
ProBmx023 | Anyone there? | 23:49 |
ProBmx023 | my ub studio locked up at "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source" :( | 23:50 |
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