[00:00] <tony> was just using ardour3 and a plugin crashed it. Now both ardour and ardour3 are missing from the applications menu?
[00:03] <beefsalad> yeah, when i bought this laptop I had to use a daily build of the debian installer to get something on it...then had to roll my own kernel
[00:03] <beefsalad> this PC is spiffy new hardware, so i may have something in the BIOS misconfigured as well
[00:03] <beefsalad> UEFI is new to me
[00:14]  * beefsalad facepalms
[00:14] <beefsalad> I dont think this is going to work with wireless
[01:08] <toil> hello
[03:03] <holstein> beefsalad: you shouldnt need any custom kernel to interface with uefi
[03:03] <holstein> !uefi | beefsalad
[03:04] <holstein> i would try and keep it simple.. try the stock images. the live ones, and report what is not working
[03:04] <holstein> most hardware supports linux these days
[03:04]  * HarryHaaren notes holstein is a wizard with bots...
[03:04] <holstein> HarryHaaren: :)
[06:46] <delt> Hello
[06:47] <delt> how can i tell which process(es) are using the sound card?
[06:47] <delt> i suddenly get no sound in firefox, but no other apps are open
[06:52] <delt> logged out, log back in, still no sound
[10:40] <angel> hello i'm trying to connect sooperlooper no sound
[10:42] <angel> soeone can help me to connect sooperlooper i did with jack but it's the only application that not functioning at all
[13:48] <beefsalad> delt: lsof /dev/mixer i believe
[13:54] <beefsalad> holstein: thanks for the tips.  ubuntu mini at least gets through the installer.  now i am battling with boot
[15:20] <skyemoor> 1st time here
[15:20] <skyemoor> Just installed US 13.10 in dual boot
[15:21] <skyemoor> Cannot change screen resolution, is stuck at 1024x768 while laptop display goes to 1600x900
[15:21] <skyemoor> It appears the actual display itself was not discovered.
[15:21] <skyemoor> What can I do?
[15:22] <skyemoor> I should note there are lower resolutions avaiable
[15:24] <skyemoor> Restatement of issue; The only resolutions I am able to select from are 1024x768 or lower. The display capability of the Dell Inspiron laptop goes to 1600x900, and I've run Ubuntu at the resolution on this monitor before.
[15:25] <skyemoor> Video card is NVIDIA GF119M
[15:26] <skyemoor> What can I do?
[15:26] <beefsalad> which driver is X using?
[15:27] <skyemoor> How do I find that out?
[15:28] <beefsalad> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:29] <xequence> skyemoor: If you didn't install nvidia drivers separately, you're using the free ones, which are ok, but the proprietary ones might solve the problem for you
[15:30] <skyemoor> It appears to be X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[15:30] <skyemoor> Is that what you were asking about, or is it something else?
[15:30] <xequence> skyemoor: To install the proprietary drivers, do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. Or use the gui tool "Software Sources", in the additional drivers tab
[15:31] <xequence> skyemoor: You'll also see which driver is in use there
[15:32] <skyemoor> It says it will install dkms fakeroot(?) nvidia-304 nuvidia-current and several others
[15:33] <skyemoor> 40.5MB
[15:35] <skyemoor> now looking under Software sources, and it gives me many options (confirms X-Org drivers)
[15:36] <skyemoor> includes "Using NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel, and VDPAU library from nvidia-319 (proprietary and tested)
[15:36] <xequence> installing prorietary drivers means a kernel module needs to be built for it. This is where dkms comes in, and fakeroot
[15:37] <xequence> dkms also makes sure each time the kernel is update, a new module is built for it automatically
[15:37] <skyemoor> Is it more straightforward to go with the driver I just noted above from "Software Sources?
[15:37] <xequence> IT's the same thing
[15:38] <xequence> To see all the options, do: apt-cache search nvidia
[15:38] <skyemoor> ok, if what you say about dkms is true, then I'll go the command line route
[15:38] <xequence> You'll see nvidia-319 as one of the installable packages
[15:38] <xequence> The gui makes things simpler. Doesn't really matter
[15:38] <xequence> I usually go with either nvidia-current, or nvidia-current-updates
[15:39] <skyemoor> There are 4 options under Software Sources, 2 for 319, 2 for 304
[15:40] <skyemoor> Am taking the Software Sources route
[15:40] <xequence> Once you've installed, if for some reason X is not loaded, and all you see is a command prompt, all you need to do is login, do: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-<version>, and things will be back to normal
[15:41] <xequence> ...after reboot, that is
[15:41] <xequence> That's the worst thing that can happen, btw
[15:41] <skyemoor> Ok, downloading (will take a while, on WiMAX)
[15:44] <skyemoor> I'm guessing you do a bit of midi, by your uname
[15:45] <xequence> Not really. I just liked the name
[15:45] <xequence> I do midi too though
[15:45] <xequence> I'm the project leader for Ubuntu Studio, btw :)
[15:45] <skyemoor> What are your preferred tools
[15:45] <xequence> For midi?
[15:46] <skyemoor> yes
[15:46] <xequence> I mostly use pd for most things
[15:46] <xequence> For midi I don't have a preferred choice really
[15:46] <skyemoor> Pd?
[15:47] <xequence> I like ardour3 since it has jack midi support. Alsa midi can suck pretty bad
[15:47] <xequence> pd == pure data
[15:47] <xequence> graphical programming language
[15:47] <xequence> It's in the repo, if you want to have a look. A tidier, and more expanded version is pd-extended, available in ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
[15:48] <skyemoor> Must say it is new to me. Is it strictly for graphics?
[15:50] <skyemoor> Ok, that did the trick! Much appreciated, and I'm going to take a look at pd
[15:50] <skyemoor> Have a great day, and thanks for heading up the Ubuntu Studio project
[16:02] <xequence> pd is for audio first, but also does video
[16:04] <holstein> !audio | delt
[16:04] <holstein> beefsalad: you will "battle the boot" if the live CD wont boot on the hardware. i like to see a live CD boot up to the desktop, then i know the hardware supports the drivers in the kernel
[16:05] <holstein> if i have issues getting to a live desktop, i know that, 99% of the time, even if i do get linux to install, it wont boot cleanly. the installed system will have the same issues the live CD has
[16:06] <beefsalad> holstein: i think i may have had a bad burn unless ubuntustudio has changed a lot from ubuntu.
[16:07] <holstein> beefsalad: "think" wont really help.. you can confirm then in the installer.. disk integrity check.. or..
[16:07] <holstein> !md5
[16:07] <beefsalad> the mini installer works fine.  i am aparently past UEFI issues as the minimal install works.  my problem now is fakeraid
[16:07] <holstein> beefsalad: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. it would be more likely you can boot ubuntu 12.04, and you are trying ubuntustudio 13.10.. with the version differences being the issue
[16:09] <beefsalad> well... current plan is to just install the ubuntustudio-video package on this install
[16:10] <holstein> current plan should be, boot the desktop, apply updates.. reboot.. test
[16:10] <holstein> then, you can add what software you like
[16:10] <beefsalad> true
[16:11] <beefsalad> silly me, used to work where my kickstart does that by default
[16:14] <xequence> beefsalad: Ubuntu Studio uses a different kernel from other Ubuntu flavors. linux-lowlatency does not have a signed kernel compatible with UEFI security
[16:14] <xequence> The plan is to have it ready for 14.04
[16:15] <xequence> holstein: ^
[16:21] <beefsalad> ahhh
[16:23] <holstein> you can always install and try the generic kernel
[16:28] <santtu> Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu Studio and was wondering if it is the only way to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 by a DVD?
[16:28] <santtu> I mean, is it impossible to upgrade via the upgrade manager
[16:36] <holstein> santtu: it is
[16:36] <holstein> santtu: i wouldnt
[16:36] <holstein> santtu: you will go in order.. 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.10
[16:36] <holstein> santtu: 12.04 is an LTS, and 14.04 will be.. i would just wait, and you will be able to go 12.04 to 14.04
[16:36] <santtu> Okay. And is there a feature for upgrading on the DVD or does it require a fresh install?
[16:37] <holstein> 14.04 will release in april (04) af 2014 (14)
[16:37] <holstein> santtu: nothing "requires" anything
[16:37] <holstein> santtu: if you want to upgrade from the internet, you do.. you use the upgrade manager
[16:37] <holstein> when 14.04 releases, it will present you with the option to upgrade to 14.04
[16:38] <holstein> if it doesnt automatically in april, you can ask here
[16:38] <holstein> i *always* prefer a fresh install
[16:39] <holstein> i find, best case, an upgrade takes a little less than 6 hours or so, and the newer kernel supports everything and the system boots
[16:39] <santtu> Okay. The upgrade manager doesn't show me 12.10. It says there aren't any upgrades available.
[16:40] <holstein> if i get a live CD for the new version, i can see it running first-hand and test it in person.. and an install takes less than 20 miutes
[16:40] <holstein> minutes*
[16:40] <holstein> usually 8 minutes
[16:40] <santtu> But I guess I'll just burn the image and make a fresh install
[16:40] <santtu> thanks a lot
[16:40] <holstein> santtu: you arent offered upgrades from lts to non-lts automatically
[16:41] <holstein> just from, as stated 12.04 to 14.04.. lts to lts
[16:42] <santtu> Oh, i see.. I was just recalling upgrading from lts to non-lts on ubuntu a few years ago, but I guess I'm wrong
[16:42] <holstein> santtu: no.. its not "wrong".. its not offered by default
[16:43] <holstein> santtu: you *can*.. you'll just have to go from 12.04, to 12.10.. then to 13.10.. and use that for a few more months.. then to 14.04
[16:43] <holstein> why not just wait and do it once? instead of, best case, maybe getting all this done in about 15 hours?
[16:43] <santtu> Yeah I'll wait
[16:44] <santtu> thanks
[16:46] <santtu> btw, do you happen to know anything about the support of Lumia phones?
[16:47] <santtu> Studio doesn't seem to even notice the phone
[16:48] <santtu> I heard there is a better MTP support in 13.10 and thats actually my interrest for the upgrade anyway
[16:48] <holstein> santtu: why would it "notice" them?
[16:48] <holstein> santtu: ubuntu is the operating system.. lumia is always welcome and encouraged and able to support whatever operating systems they choose
[16:49] <holstein> ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu with a focus on media production.. you might have a better chance in the larger #ubuntu community finding someone interested in and well verse in telephony
[16:49] <santtu> what I am trying to say is that I can't transfer anything between my phone and my computer
[16:49] <holstein> otherwise you can contact the lumia team, and let them konw you are interested in using the product in linux.. and ask them to support it
[16:50] <holstein> santtu: most phones mount as a hard drive.. a "mass storage unit"
[16:50] <santtu> Yeah I know
[16:50] <santtu> But it doesen't mount at all
[16:51] <holstein> santtu: maybe its a format that linux cant read.. have you researched if *any* OS can mount it as a hard drive? whats the file system?
[16:51] <santtu> I dont "see" the phone on my computer at all
[16:51] <santtu> well everything else has work fine till now
[16:52] <santtu> Usb-sticks and older mp3-players have worked fine
[16:53] <santtu> I was reading on a ubuntu forum that windows phone 8 and android are using some kind of protocol that doesen't work too good on 12.04
[16:54] <santtu> And I have actually no idea about the filesystem, and the phone doesenät tell me anything
[16:57] <holstein> santtu: the company can.. have you searched about the phone?
[16:58] <santtu> yeah, i found something about 520
[16:58] <santtu> wait a sec
[16:58] <santtu> Your phone supports FAT32 for SDHC cards, exFAT for SDXC cards, with a single Master Boot Record (MBR) partition table.
[16:58] <santtu>     Up to 32-GB SDHC cards using the FAT file system.
[16:58] <santtu>     64-GB SDXC cards using the exFAT file system.
[16:58] <santtu> The internal user store is formatted in NTFS file system format.
[16:59] <santtu> this one is 820 though
[16:59] <santtu> but I guess they use the same filesystem
[17:03] <holstein> santtu: thats what the phone can boot
[17:04] <holstein> santtu: "your phone supports"... you need to know how, if the manufactuerer allows, how it presents itself to the computer when plugged in.. which may be, "not at all"
[17:05] <santtu> Yeah that information I didn't find
[17:06] <holstein> santtu: they may not offer it, so you wont find it if its not offered. you'll have to ask them "is it possible to mount my phone on a computer and if so, how?"
[17:06] <santtu> I guess
[17:07] <holstein> santtu: ubuntu nor linux will be able or allowed to provide that information..
[17:08] <holstein> santtu: i find "enable mass storage mode" http://www.asoftech.com/articles/windows-phone-enable-mass-storage.html
[17:09] <santtu> too bad thats only for windows
[17:09] <holstein> santtu: ?
[17:10] <holstein> santtu: you try it, since they do not officially support linux and wont document "use the device like this in linux"
[17:10] <holstein> santtu: you will enable mass storage mode, in hopes that it allows the machine to boot in a format that windows can read it, which linux would be able to read as well
[17:10] <holstein> likely, fat32
[17:12] <santtu> But I don't have a Windows computer, I've got only this linux
[17:12] <holstein> santtu: i understand that
[17:12] <holstein> santtu: you use the same method since you wont read "how to mount the phone in linux" on the site
[17:13] <santtu> okay
[17:13] <holstein> santtu: the "mass storage mode" will likely work with linux.. you will try that and try mounting it
[17:13] <santtu> ill give it a try
[17:13] <holstein> santtu: it should just show up as a mass storage unit.. fat32
[17:25] <santtu> interesting. I can use my phone as a mass storage in nautilus, but not in thunar
[17:27] <santtu> and the filesystem is mtpfs
[20:58] <resizt0r> hello, when i try to open DVD Styler it pops up the language dialog, when i select my language nothing happens
[20:59] <resizt0r> when i try to run it in terminal it gives an x window system error
[22:41] <elice> wenas
[23:49] <ProBmx023> Anyone there?
[23:50] <ProBmx023> my ub studio locked up at "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source"   :(