[00:00] was just using ardour3 and a plugin crashed it. Now both ardour and ardour3 are missing from the applications menu? [00:03] yeah, when i bought this laptop I had to use a daily build of the debian installer to get something on it...then had to roll my own kernel [00:03] this PC is spiffy new hardware, so i may have something in the BIOS misconfigured as well [00:03] UEFI is new to me [00:14] * beefsalad facepalms [00:14] I dont think this is going to work with wireless [01:08] hello [03:03] beefsalad: you shouldnt need any custom kernel to interface with uefi [03:03] !uefi | beefsalad [03:03] beefsalad: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [03:04] i would try and keep it simple.. try the stock images. the live ones, and report what is not working [03:04] most hardware supports linux these days [03:04] * HarryHaaren notes holstein is a wizard with bots... [03:04] HarryHaaren: :) [06:46] Hello [06:47] how can i tell which process(es) are using the sound card? [06:47] i suddenly get no sound in firefox, but no other apps are open [06:52] logged out, log back in, still no sound [10:40] hello i'm trying to connect sooperlooper no sound [10:42] soeone can help me to connect sooperlooper i did with jack but it's the only application that not functioning at all [13:48] delt: lsof /dev/mixer i believe [13:54] holstein: thanks for the tips. ubuntu mini at least gets through the installer. now i am battling with boot [15:20] 1st time here [15:20] Just installed US 13.10 in dual boot [15:21] Cannot change screen resolution, is stuck at 1024x768 while laptop display goes to 1600x900 [15:21] It appears the actual display itself was not discovered. [15:21] What can I do? [15:22] I should note there are lower resolutions avaiable [15:24] Restatement of issue; The only resolutions I am able to select from are 1024x768 or lower. The display capability of the Dell Inspiron laptop goes to 1600x900, and I've run Ubuntu at the resolution on this monitor before. [15:25] Video card is NVIDIA GF119M [15:26] What can I do? [15:26] which driver is X using? [15:27] How do I find that out? [15:28] check /var/log/Xorg.0.log [15:29] skyemoor: If you didn't install nvidia drivers separately, you're using the free ones, which are ok, but the proprietary ones might solve the problem for you [15:30] It appears to be X.Org Video Driver: 14.1 [15:30] Is that what you were asking about, or is it something else? [15:30] skyemoor: To install the proprietary drivers, do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. Or use the gui tool "Software Sources", in the additional drivers tab [15:31] skyemoor: You'll also see which driver is in use there [15:32] It says it will install dkms fakeroot(?) nvidia-304 nuvidia-current and several others [15:33] 40.5MB [15:35] now looking under Software sources, and it gives me many options (confirms X-Org drivers) [15:36] includes "Using NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel, and VDPAU library from nvidia-319 (proprietary and tested) [15:36] installing prorietary drivers means a kernel module needs to be built for it. This is where dkms comes in, and fakeroot [15:37] dkms also makes sure each time the kernel is update, a new module is built for it automatically [15:37] Is it more straightforward to go with the driver I just noted above from "Software Sources? [15:37] IT's the same thing [15:38] To see all the options, do: apt-cache search nvidia [15:38] ok, if what you say about dkms is true, then I'll go the command line route [15:38] You'll see nvidia-319 as one of the installable packages [15:38] The gui makes things simpler. Doesn't really matter [15:38] I usually go with either nvidia-current, or nvidia-current-updates [15:39] There are 4 options under Software Sources, 2 for 319, 2 for 304 [15:40] Am taking the Software Sources route [15:40] Once you've installed, if for some reason X is not loaded, and all you see is a command prompt, all you need to do is login, do: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-, and things will be back to normal [15:41] ...after reboot, that is [15:41] That's the worst thing that can happen, btw [15:41] Ok, downloading (will take a while, on WiMAX) [15:44] I'm guessing you do a bit of midi, by your uname [15:45] Not really. I just liked the name [15:45] I do midi too though [15:45] I'm the project leader for Ubuntu Studio, btw :) [15:45] What are your preferred tools [15:45] For midi? [15:46] yes [15:46] I mostly use pd for most things [15:46] For midi I don't have a preferred choice really [15:46] Pd? [15:47] I like ardour3 since it has jack midi support. Alsa midi can suck pretty bad [15:47] pd == pure data [15:47] graphical programming language [15:47] It's in the repo, if you want to have a look. A tidier, and more expanded version is pd-extended, available in ppa:eighthave/pd-extended [15:48] Must say it is new to me. Is it strictly for graphics? [15:50] Ok, that did the trick! Much appreciated, and I'm going to take a look at pd [15:50] Have a great day, and thanks for heading up the Ubuntu Studio project [16:02] pd is for audio first, but also does video [16:04] !audio | delt [16:04] delt: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [16:04] beefsalad: you will "battle the boot" if the live CD wont boot on the hardware. i like to see a live CD boot up to the desktop, then i know the hardware supports the drivers in the kernel [16:05] if i have issues getting to a live desktop, i know that, 99% of the time, even if i do get linux to install, it wont boot cleanly. the installed system will have the same issues the live CD has [16:06] holstein: i think i may have had a bad burn unless ubuntustudio has changed a lot from ubuntu. [16:07] beefsalad: "think" wont really help.. you can confirm then in the installer.. disk integrity check.. or.. [16:07] !md5 [16:07] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [16:07] the mini installer works fine. i am aparently past UEFI issues as the minimal install works. my problem now is fakeraid [16:07] beefsalad: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. it would be more likely you can boot ubuntu 12.04, and you are trying ubuntustudio 13.10.. with the version differences being the issue [16:09] well... current plan is to just install the ubuntustudio-video package on this install [16:10] current plan should be, boot the desktop, apply updates.. reboot.. test [16:10] then, you can add what software you like [16:10] true [16:11] silly me, used to work where my kickstart does that by default [16:14] beefsalad: Ubuntu Studio uses a different kernel from other Ubuntu flavors. linux-lowlatency does not have a signed kernel compatible with UEFI security [16:14] The plan is to have it ready for 14.04 [16:15] holstein: ^ [16:21] ahhh [16:23] you can always install and try the generic kernel [16:28] Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu Studio and was wondering if it is the only way to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 by a DVD? [16:28] I mean, is it impossible to upgrade via the upgrade manager [16:36] santtu: it is [16:36] santtu: i wouldnt [16:36] santtu: you will go in order.. 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.10 [16:36] santtu: 12.04 is an LTS, and 14.04 will be.. i would just wait, and you will be able to go 12.04 to 14.04 [16:36] Okay. And is there a feature for upgrading on the DVD or does it require a fresh install? [16:37] 14.04 will release in april (04) af 2014 (14) [16:37] santtu: nothing "requires" anything [16:37] santtu: if you want to upgrade from the internet, you do.. you use the upgrade manager [16:37] when 14.04 releases, it will present you with the option to upgrade to 14.04 [16:38] if it doesnt automatically in april, you can ask here [16:38] i *always* prefer a fresh install [16:39] i find, best case, an upgrade takes a little less than 6 hours or so, and the newer kernel supports everything and the system boots [16:39] Okay. The upgrade manager doesn't show me 12.10. It says there aren't any upgrades available. [16:40] if i get a live CD for the new version, i can see it running first-hand and test it in person.. and an install takes less than 20 miutes [16:40] minutes* [16:40] usually 8 minutes [16:40] But I guess I'll just burn the image and make a fresh install [16:40] thanks a lot [16:40] santtu: you arent offered upgrades from lts to non-lts automatically [16:41] just from, as stated 12.04 to 14.04.. lts to lts [16:42] Oh, i see.. I was just recalling upgrading from lts to non-lts on ubuntu a few years ago, but I guess I'm wrong [16:42] santtu: no.. its not "wrong".. its not offered by default [16:43] santtu: you *can*.. you'll just have to go from 12.04, to 12.10.. then to 13.10.. and use that for a few more months.. then to 14.04 [16:43] why not just wait and do it once? instead of, best case, maybe getting all this done in about 15 hours? [16:43] Yeah I'll wait [16:44] thanks [16:46] btw, do you happen to know anything about the support of Lumia phones? [16:47] Studio doesn't seem to even notice the phone [16:48] I heard there is a better MTP support in 13.10 and thats actually my interrest for the upgrade anyway [16:48] santtu: why would it "notice" them? [16:48] santtu: ubuntu is the operating system.. lumia is always welcome and encouraged and able to support whatever operating systems they choose [16:49] ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu with a focus on media production.. you might have a better chance in the larger #ubuntu community finding someone interested in and well verse in telephony [16:49] what I am trying to say is that I can't transfer anything between my phone and my computer [16:49] otherwise you can contact the lumia team, and let them konw you are interested in using the product in linux.. and ask them to support it [16:50] santtu: most phones mount as a hard drive.. a "mass storage unit" [16:50] Yeah I know [16:50] But it doesen't mount at all [16:51] santtu: maybe its a format that linux cant read.. have you researched if *any* OS can mount it as a hard drive? whats the file system? [16:51] I dont "see" the phone on my computer at all [16:51] well everything else has work fine till now [16:52] Usb-sticks and older mp3-players have worked fine [16:53] I was reading on a ubuntu forum that windows phone 8 and android are using some kind of protocol that doesen't work too good on 12.04 [16:54] And I have actually no idea about the filesystem, and the phone doesenät tell me anything [16:57] santtu: the company can.. have you searched about the phone? [16:58] yeah, i found something about 520 [16:58] wait a sec [16:58] Your phone supports FAT32 for SDHC cards, exFAT for SDXC cards, with a single Master Boot Record (MBR) partition table. [16:58] Up to 32-GB SDHC cards using the FAT file system. [16:58] 64-GB SDXC cards using the exFAT file system. [16:58] The internal user store is formatted in NTFS file system format. [16:59] this one is 820 though [16:59] but I guess they use the same filesystem [17:03] santtu: thats what the phone can boot [17:04] santtu: "your phone supports"... you need to know how, if the manufactuerer allows, how it presents itself to the computer when plugged in.. which may be, "not at all" [17:05] Yeah that information I didn't find [17:06] santtu: they may not offer it, so you wont find it if its not offered. you'll have to ask them "is it possible to mount my phone on a computer and if so, how?" [17:06] I guess [17:07] santtu: ubuntu nor linux will be able or allowed to provide that information.. [17:08] santtu: i find "enable mass storage mode" http://www.asoftech.com/articles/windows-phone-enable-mass-storage.html [17:09] too bad thats only for windows [17:09] santtu: ? [17:10] santtu: you try it, since they do not officially support linux and wont document "use the device like this in linux" [17:10] santtu: you will enable mass storage mode, in hopes that it allows the machine to boot in a format that windows can read it, which linux would be able to read as well [17:10] likely, fat32 [17:12] But I don't have a Windows computer, I've got only this linux [17:12] santtu: i understand that [17:12] santtu: you use the same method since you wont read "how to mount the phone in linux" on the site [17:13] okay [17:13] santtu: the "mass storage mode" will likely work with linux.. you will try that and try mounting it [17:13] ill give it a try [17:13] santtu: it should just show up as a mass storage unit.. fat32 [17:25] interesting. I can use my phone as a mass storage in nautilus, but not in thunar [17:27] and the filesystem is mtpfs [20:58] hello, when i try to open DVD Styler it pops up the language dialog, when i select my language nothing happens [20:59] when i try to run it in terminal it gives an x window system error [22:41] wenas [23:49] Anyone there? [23:50] my ub studio locked up at "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source" :(