[00:32] <sergio-br2> hello
[00:33] <sergio-br2> someone get nvidia-331 work after install? It seems that both Optimus hardware and only one nvidia card have problem with this driver
[00:34] <sergio-br2> *I'm in trusty, and get problem in 2 different machines
[03:34] <Fudge> damo if  icc-profiles is running with a pid try ubuntu-bug pid-number
[03:59] <ThomasB> i need my rhythmbox to support last.fm :(
[15:30] <pcwhite> ns identify Becky010
[16:45] <glitsj16> mp to 14.04, had issues also with 13.10
[18:11] <kaimast> hey all! my laptop has two batteries. is it possible to merge the estimated remaining time of battery life? It shows them seperatley which is not very intuitive
[18:13] <trism> kaimast: bug 880881
[18:14] <kaimast> thanks trism!
[18:38]  * penguin42 wonders whether it can tell that the two batteries are a related pair
[18:41] <kaimast> penguin42: i think the easiest solution would be to add an option to merge the times.
[18:42] <penguin42> nod
[19:28] <karab44> hello
[19:29] <karab44> how is the progress on 14.04? How will it change til official release? Can I install it for daily usage?
[19:30] <holstein> karab44: you "can".. its not out yet, and should not be considered released til its released..
[19:32] <k1l_> karab44: if you need to ask about stableness, dont use alpha or betas
[19:32] <k1l_> and yes, a alpha/beta will update to final automaticaly
[19:33] <karab44> Yeah I know but I was just wondering how will it work for me when I use application mostly
[19:33] <shapow> hi, with regard to karab44's question does ubuntu+1 compare to arch linux?
[19:34] <holstein> shapow: they are different products.. neither are tring to compare to the other. arch is a rolling release.. ubuntu 14.04 is a testing verison til its release in april
[19:34] <k1l_> shapow: arch is rolling release. that is quite hard to compare
[19:35] <karab44> So my question would be  will system behaviour be stable in daily usage of apps like IRC, Blender, skype. I usually don't use system features much.
[19:35] <shapow> it was to my understanding ubuntu+1 was the always-developmental version of ubuntu (aka rolling release) but according to holstein and k1l_ this is not so?
[19:35] <karab44> shapow: seems to be :)
[19:35] <penguin42> karab44: It's not too bad; but things do break from time to time - because things can and will break prior to release
[19:36] <k1l_> karab44: that is not the question. a "stable IRC program" doesnt help you if the kernel or the xserver doesnt run
[19:36] <holstein> karab44: if you want stable, use the stable release
[19:36] <Beldar> shapow, Rolling release no.
[19:36] <penguin42> karab44: But unlike Arch for example, Ubuntu tends to keep the last few kernels installed on the machine, so at least if the kernel breaks it's easy to go back
[19:36] <holstein> shapow: correct, it is *not* a rolling release
[19:36] <k1l_> karab44: things will break. and most times when you need a running system to do important things. so again: if you need to ask the questions, stay away from development
[19:37] <k1l_> shapow: no its not rolling release. but +1 is always called the actual development release
[19:37] <karab44> I thought it's not that drastic :)
[19:38] <karab44> My idea was to use it carefully without using any fancy system features but only launch apps on it but I see now that it's not good idea either.
[19:39] <penguin42> karab44: Things like compilers, kernel etc have to get updated somewhere in the cycle, so it does happen - but then as it gets closer to release things stabilise out; current one should be a little better because it's aiming at LTS so it shouldn't be quite as drastic
[19:39] <holstein> karab44: ? its not a "bad" idea.. its just not a stable release.. its not the goal of 14.04 right now to make sure it doesnt break..
[19:39] <shapow> thank you all ^^
[19:40] <holstein> shapow: the testing version of ubuntu doesnt necessarily have the latest packages. its not pulling from the latest testing version of debian, which could be viewed as "rolling"
[19:41] <karab44> but you said it can break "just like that" and I don't want my system breaks just because mp3 player runs in background.
[22:39] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hello
[22:45] <Beldar> YOURBESTFRIEND, What's up?
[22:46] <FernandoMiguel> nice nick
[23:07] <YOURBESTFRIEND> Beldar: trying to fix some bug, yo
[23:53] <user82> hi. does the trusty installer support installing the system to F2FS partitions?