[01:01] <Noskcaj> I'm trying to merge xchat-gnome, do i really have to list all of the ubuntu delta?
[01:02] <slangasek> you should detail what changes you're dropping as part of the merge and what changes you're keeping, yes
[01:02] <Noskcaj> There goes the next hour of my life
[01:12] <Logan_> Noskcaj: Yes. As unfortunate and annoying as it is.
[01:14] <Noskcaj> The changelog takes up my entire screen just for the remaining changes
[01:15] <jtaylor> you don't need to keep the rebuild lines :)
[01:17] <Noskcaj> jtaylor, that's without the rebuild lines
[01:17] <Noskcaj> now if this FTBFSes, i'm going to cry
[01:17] <jtaylor> updating the changelog is usually the faster part of merging
[01:17] <jtaylor> build it first, then update the changelog
[01:18] <Logan_> Yeah. I usually just write "Merge," then build, and then do the changelog if it works.
[01:18] <Logan_> And, yes, I have accidentally uploaded merges with just "Merge" in the changelog in the past due to this. :P
[01:18] <jtaylor> often its just copy paste the old message, add new ones and then drop what you dropped during the merge
[01:18] <jtaylor> make sure its complete
[01:18] <jtaylor> future mergers will thank you
[01:22] <Noskcaj> Is anyone here a DD? Could you review http://mentors.debian.net/package/testdrive ? It's an ubuntu program, but i'm sure someone in debian would like to use it.
[01:23] <Logan_> Noskcaj: I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be native.
[01:24] <Logan_> Unless the team is planning on maintaining it in Debian...
[01:24] <Noskcaj> Logan_, Yes, i'm part of the team. it should be.
[01:25] <Logan_> Okay.
[01:40] <Noskcaj> How would i fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/6735963/ ?
[01:43] <Logan_> Noskcaj: Which package is that?
[02:12] <Noskcaj> Logan_, xchat-gnome
[10:37] <doko> directhex, when do you plan for mono to migrate to trusty?
[10:46] <brainwash> doko: hey, do you consider setting up a PPA for bash 4.3 rc1? or is it possible to install the debian package on a ubuntu system without running into trouble?
[10:47] <doko> brainwash, did you check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash, other versions?
[10:49] <brainwash> doko: oh, I did not =S
[10:49] <brainwash> thanks :)
[10:50] <brainwash> doko: sadly the i386 package failed to build
[11:12] <doko> infinity, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/162258611/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-ppc64el.python2.7_2.7.6-5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:13] <doko> dh_shlibdeps -a
[11:13] <doko> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /lib/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (used by debian/libpython2.7-stdlib/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/future_builtins.powerpc64le-linux-gnu.so)
[14:42] <directhex> doko, have been trying to work through the migration blockers
[14:42] <directhex> as & when my schedule allows
[14:43] <directhex> the problems report is a little difficult to parse, mind you
[14:46] <cjwatson> looks like basically banshee and tomboy now
[14:52] <directhex> yeah, banshee is going to be a problem. banshee itself is migrate-able, and it's beta for the new gtk3 version. but the banshee-community-extensions package has not been updated to gtk3 yet, so right now a) it ftbfs and b) the binaries are useless
[14:52] <directhex> i'll do tomboy though
[14:53] <directhex> a hyperair would be handy at this point
[14:56] <doko> directhex, banshee-community-extensions doesn't have any reverse dependencies, so we could demote it to -proposed
[14:57] <directhex> doko, huh, i thought the amazon/u1ms plugins were in b-c-e. apparently not
[14:58] <directhex> i'm test building a patched tomboy in a ppa, will upload it if it works
[15:02] <directhex> build would have failed by now if it was going to
[15:11] <hyperair> directhex: uh yeah i'll get to it.
[15:12] <hyperair> hang on, a gtk3 bce hasn't been released
[15:12] <directhex> hyperair, nope. mass porting effort needed upstream, i think :/
[15:12] <hyperair> yeah
[15:12]  * hyperair groans
[15:12] <hyperair> that'll take a while
[15:12] <hyperair> how about the dbus# stuff? is that all taken care of?
[15:13] <directhex> yeah, transition complete in sid
[15:13] <directhex> and in theory in trusty-proposed now
[15:13] <hyperair> oh cool nice
[15:26] <directhex> cjwatson, doko, ok, tomboy all built. if b-c-e gets demoted, that *should* be everything?
[15:26] <directhex> YMMV. IANAL. IDDQD.
[15:36] <doko> directhex, what about tangerine?
[15:37] <doko> and libapache2-mod-mono?
[15:40] <directhex> doko, i don't see why those are blocked from transition
[15:48] <cjwatson> doko: you're looking at the wrong update_output block, I suspect.
[15:48] <doko> meh
[15:48] <cjwatson> doko: Look at the *first* one mentioning mono after the initial one-by-one pass.
[15:49] <cjwatson> Which looks like b-c-e, tomboy, and rdeps.
[15:49] <doko>     * amd64: banshee-extension-lastfmfingerprint, banshee-extension-lirc, banshee-extension-mirage, tomboy
[15:49] <doko>     * armhf: banshee-extension-lastfmfingerprint, banshee-extension-lirc, banshee-extension-mirage, tomboy
[15:49] <doko>     * powerpc: banshee-extension-lastfmfingerprint, banshee-extension-lirc, banshee-extension-mirage, tomboy
[15:49] <doko> FAILED
[15:49] <doko> right
[15:50] <doko> and what do the following ones describe?
[15:50] <cjwatson> That's p-m trying different subsets
[15:50] <cjwatson> Sometimes that succeeds where the biggest set doesn't, e.g. if it pulls in fewer transitions
[15:51] <cjwatson> I haven't bothered inhaling the full algorithm since I don't usually need to care
[15:57] <directhex> cjwatson, like i said, fixed tomboy should be built & waiting in -proposed, and b-c-e can be demoted to ease transition
[15:57] <directhex> if that fixes it, hooray
[16:31] <xubuntu928> while installing i've noticed that i get a notice concratulations you have chosen to install xubuntu 13.10 however it's the 14 alpha language is dutch
[16:32] <xubuntu928> not sure if this is an known issue, it's ofcourse a minor issue
[16:32] <xubuntu928> however where can i findout or report such things
[16:34] <Ofloo> joy, .. i can see it's installing english help files however i've chosen the language to be dutch
[16:37] <Ofloo> nevermind my earlier remark
[16:37] <Ofloo> now it's downloading the dutch help files
[16:40] <Ofloo> man i hope this is going to work my r9 card driver only support up to kernel 3.12 i see it's installing 3.13
[16:44] <cjwatson> directhex: looks like doko did that
[16:44] <cjwatson> directhex: and mono is transitioned, yay
[16:44] <cjwatson> thanks for your work
[16:45] <directhex> oof, that was painful
[16:45] <directhex> hooray though
[16:45] <directhex> would have been hella embarrassing to ship 2.10 in *another* release
[17:27] <stgraber> xnox, hallyn: FYI I'm just making sure I handle upgrades properly and will upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/6739735/
[17:27] <stgraber> I noticed that one because I monitor "debsums -sa" on my servers and just noticed that 14.04 boxes report subuid and subgid as modified conffiles...
[17:49] <hallyn> stgraber: thanks - i guess that should go up to the debian pkg as well
[17:52] <stgraber> hallyn: I don't think Debian has support for it yet, it looks like an Ubuntu change at the moment.
[18:01] <stgraber> alright, got some transition code working to clear the conffile flag on existing installs, we should only have to carry that bit until 13.10 goes EOL so not too painful. Uploaded
[19:00] <infinity> doko: I see that succeded on a retry.  Did something else get changed to "fix" it, or was it a weird transient error?
[19:04] <infinity> jibel: What's going on with the linux autopkgtests?  That looks like testbed explosion, not test failures.
[19:06] <Ofloo> hi, .. installed xubuntu 14 but wen i run compiz i get compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded.
[19:06] <Ofloo> i did downgrade the kernel to 3.12 due to videocard driver issues
[19:09] <Ofloo> an other thing i've noticed is that when plug in an usb stick it doesn't automount
[19:10] <Ofloo> i had the same issue in 13.10
[19:27] <Noskcaj> Ofloo, Try #ubuntu or #xubuntu
[19:56] <infinity> doko: Ahh, looks like the system somehow got wedged and dpkg/dpkg-query were segfaulting.  Weird.  Cleared up now.
[21:07] <YOURBESTFRIEND> shit guys
[21:07] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I'm trying to fix some bug
[21:07] <YOURBESTFRIEND> but I can't
[21:07] <YOURBESTFRIEND> where can I get help
[21:08] <TJ-> YOURBESTFRIEND: In #ubuntu where we were already helping you
[21:26] <Noskcaj> Can someone try and work out what's causing https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xchat-gnome/merge to ftbfs?
[21:33] <Laney> directhex: it needs applying to exp
[21:34] <directhex> what does?
[21:37] <YOURBESTFRIEND> isn't there like some menthoring program for newbies?
[21:38] <Laney> tomboy
[21:39] <Laney> new upstream, dbus#2 patch
[21:39] <Laney> unless it's already in that version, in which case nothing to do
[22:15] <directhex> Laney, i didn't think to look in exp, since trusty package is 0ubuntu1
[22:15] <directhex> yeah, you're right