| diddledan | I think I want a pizza | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | at midnight :o | 00:01 |
| diddledan | midnight feast :-p | 00:05 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 00:05 |
| daftykins | i've been murdering twiglets all evening | 00:06 |
| * diddledan sings the twiglet zone music | 00:06 | |
| daftykins | there was music!? | 00:06 |
| * penguin42 murdered an Aldi chocolate Reindeer earlier - it was very nice (and cheap) | 00:06 | |
| diddledan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y | 00:06 |
| diddledan | I love murdering chocolate creatures of all kinds | 00:07 |
| Elions | popey: Are you there? I have a question I need to ask you | 00:07 |
| diddledan | I killed a chocolate santa the other day | 00:07 |
| diddledan | Elions: always to the left | 00:08 |
| Elions | popey: What plugin do you use to post your podcast automatically to an RSS feed? I don't know if you remember me but i'm Azelphur's friend who was trying to set up a Bitcoin Podcast | 00:08 |
| Elions | See, our RSS poster at the moment seems to make it impossible to put out podcast on Itunes | 00:08 |
| ali1234 | bitcoins? | 00:08 |
| Elions | ali1234: Yup. Bitcoin | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | my favourite bitcoin website shut down today | 00:09 |
| diddledan | :-o | 00:09 |
| popey | Elions: hello | 00:09 |
| Elions | ali1234: That's a shame. Which one was it? | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | good guy op didn't steal all the funds, so there's that | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | bitquestion | 00:10 |
| popey | Elions: wordpress + podpress | 00:10 |
| diddledan | bitcoins are a bit of a wild west atm | 00:10 |
| diddledan | lots of early scams | 00:10 |
| diddledan | it'll settle down I guess like the west did | 00:10 |
| Elions | popey: Thank you. I was looking for it but wordpress' search engine is basically useless. | 00:10 |
| diddledan | so we'll end up with all the beautiful people there making movies | 00:11 |
| daftykins | Elions: the admin pages have a plugin search mechanism | 00:11 |
| ali1234 | that's the same thing | 00:11 |
| Elions | daftykins: Yeah, that's the one I was using | 00:11 |
| Elions | Anyhow, thank you very much popey. Sorry if I interrupted anything, mate. | 00:11 |
| daftykins | oic | 00:11 |
| ali1234 | if you need custom wordpress plugins i can do write them for you | 00:11 |
| Elions | ali1234: We're good for now, no worries. | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: i can turn my lights on and off with the g19 keys now :) | 00:21 |
| ali1234 | https://github.com/ali1234/avr-433/blob/master/firmware/main.c | 00:21 |
| ali1234 | i probably made everyone's doorbell ring on my street while developing this | 00:26 |
| ali1234 | and all their garage doors open and car alarms turn on and off | 00:26 |
| penguin42 | what hardware is that? | 00:27 |
| ali1234 | http://www.quasaruk.co.uk/acatalog/info_QAM_TX1_433.html | 00:28 |
| ali1234 | the plugs are from maplin but they don't sell them any more | 00:28 |
| ali1234 | and the AVR board is a minimus32 | 00:29 |
| === MrGarlic_ is now known as MrGarlic | ||
| ali1234 | also i used a RTL-SDR to look at the signals, with rtl-433, gqrx, and gnuradio-companion | 00:29 |
| penguin42 | oh that's tiny | 00:29 |
| penguin42 | (and cheap) | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | the minimus board is also tiny and cheap | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | actually everything involved was cheap | 00:30 |
| penguin42 | I'd played with gqrx and the rtl-sdr but hadn't come across gnuradio-companion - I played with the rtl when stuff was still a bit touchy, I should try again | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | there is a fairly good ppa with it all now | 00:30 |
| ali1234 | gr-companion is like a drag and drop filter graph editor | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | it's not very easy to use | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | and it crashes a lot | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | oh, maybe I did use that - I certainly edited a gnuradio graph - but didn't have the patience to do anything smart with it | 00:32 |
| === LjL is now known as frenchtoast | ||
| === frenchtoast is now known as phunygui | ||
| === phunygui is now known as LjL | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| foobarry | looks nippy out there today | 07:42 |
| MartijnVdS | we're having clear skies, blue with bits of red | 07:43 |
| mapps | yeas foobarry | 07:44 |
| mapps | its kinda cold | 07:44 |
| mapps | when i walked back from the casino was cold;/ | 07:44 |
| MartijnVdS | Apparently it's 0°C outside here | 07:44 |
| MartijnVdS | mapps: did you win? :) | 07:44 |
| mapps | dont play really i just go for a beer | 07:45 |
| mapps | horrible places | 07:45 |
| mapps | the UKs lowest | 07:45 |
| mapps | everyone there will tell you they 'broke even' or 'won a few quid' | 07:45 |
| mapps | so casinos must operate on good faith;p | 07:46 |
| foobarry | pink/blue skies out there, frost on the field and the car | 07:49 |
| foobarry | you get free sandwiches in casinos to | 07:49 |
| foobarry | can't imagine the beer is exactly great | 07:50 |
| foobarry | i just had a sudden urge to play gribbly's day out on the archimedes | 07:58 |
| foobarry | that was a hard game | 07:58 |
| mapps | :D | 08:03 |
| mapps | going to London Dungeons next week:D | 08:03 |
| mapps | went to the amsterdam one on our ;last day there | 08:04 |
| foobarry | i want a rasp pi to run RISC OS! | 08:04 |
| foobarry | native | 08:04 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads bottom of the page? | 08:06 |
| foobarry | the "want" in that sentence was the rasp pi..i don't own one | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | Ah, I assumed everyone had one (or several) by now :) | 08:11 |
| shauno | why not? I thought pretty much every had 3 or 4 by this point | 08:11 |
| foobarry | i don't have anything with hdmi or dvi in the house | 08:13 |
| foobarry | and i had a nslu2 already for my low power needs | 08:14 |
| foobarry | i have a short term urge to play my old acorn games again | 08:17 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: RPi also has Composite out | 08:17 |
| MartijnVdS | don't know the quality of it.. but it exists | 08:17 |
| foobarry | it happens occasionally and i faff around with the emulator and leave after a sub standard experience | 08:17 |
| foobarry | yeah, prob no worse than the arch games quality for these purposes | 08:17 |
| popey | morning | 08:56 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| mapps | morning popey | 09:58 |
| mapps | going back home monday:D | 09:58 |
| mapps | back to good net | 09:58 |
| mapps | 75mbit ftc and 100mbit cable:D | 09:58 |
| * mapps is stuck on 6mbit here;/ | 09:58 | |
| mapps | gotta brave the underground on monday again | 10:03 |
| mapps | ipad/netbook/nexus7 should be enough:D | 10:03 |
| MartijnVdS | kindle? | 10:04 |
| mapps | i have a nook:D | 10:04 |
| mapps | ipad air/ipad mini/nexus7/dell xps12 miini/dell xps i7/samsung nc10 | 10:05 |
| mapps | those are my 'portables' | 10:05 |
| MartijnVdS | mapps: XPS 12 with the rotating screen? :) | 10:05 |
| mapps | and my beloved iphone 5:) | 10:05 |
| mapps | yes sir | 10:05 |
| * MartijnVdS has one of those.. yay work 8-) | 10:05 | |
| mapps | i buyed my dad one for his birthday also | 10:05 |
| mapps | theyre expensive | 10:05 |
| mapps | but nice | 10:05 |
| MartijnVdS | I wanted the Ubuntu edition 13" but it was sold out at the time (just before the new model launched.. but I needed a work laptop to work on..) | 10:05 |
| mapps | its a good quality laptop | 10:06 |
| mapps | but | 10:06 |
| mapps | its quite pricey..no? | 10:06 |
| MartijnVdS | It is | 10:06 |
| MartijnVdS | but I didn't have to pay, so it's good ;) | 10:06 |
| MartijnVdS | I've disabled the touch screen though | 10:06 |
| mapps | :) | 10:06 |
| mapps | so iil be taking | 10:07 |
| mapps | iphone 5/ipad air/ipad mini/nexus7/dell xps12/dell i7/samsung nc10 | 10:07 |
| mapps | that enough? | 10:07 |
| mapps | for a week | 10:07 |
| MartijnVdS | where? why? :) | 10:07 |
| mapps | back to my fathers | 10:08 |
| mapps | going home for a week | 10:08 |
| mapps | to Surrey | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | When I go away for a week I take my chromebook and my phone | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe my kindle | 10:08 |
| mapps | aha | 10:08 |
| mapps | when i go abroad | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | xoom, work laptop and older VAIO stay at home | 10:08 |
| mapps | i take my iphone 5 and my netbook | 10:08 |
| mapps | becuse | 10:08 |
| mapps | my big laptop is too big..i dont pay for luggage | 10:08 |
| mapps | so i just use hold luggage :) | 10:08 |
| mapps | so a netbook is better | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | carry-on you mean.. hold luggage tends to cost money :) | 10:09 |
| mapps | ahh yes | 10:09 |
| mapps | sorry | 10:09 |
| mapps | so hold is the pay ? | 10:09 |
| mapps | hm | 10:09 |
| mapps | carry | 10:09 |
| MartijnVdS | The stuff take with you (hold in your hands) = carry-on | 10:09 |
| mapps | i meant carry on plane | 10:09 |
| mapps | yea | 10:09 |
| mapps | my normal laptop takes too much space on my bag | 10:09 |
| mapps | so i use my netbook | 10:09 |
| MartijnVdS | The "belly of the aircraft" where checked bags are stored is called the "hold" 8-) | 10:09 |
| mapps | aha so thats hold luggage | 10:10 |
| MartijnVdS | Yes, this is weird ;) | 10:10 |
| mapps | :D | 10:10 |
| mapps | i liked KLM | 10:10 |
| mapps | they were good | 10:10 |
| mapps | i used e-barcode thing | 10:10 |
| mapps | i went to work and both printers were broken so i had no choice had it sent to my phone | 10:11 |
| mapps | scanned it a manchester | 10:11 |
| mapps | then on amsterdam someone came and looked at it | 10:11 |
| mapps | but still really easy:D | 10:11 |
| mapps | boarding pass on phones | 10:11 |
| MartijnVdS | last time I flew, I went with Easyjet. Checked in a month before the flight 8-) | 10:11 |
| mapps | haa yea with some u can | 10:12 |
| mapps | but | 10:12 |
| mapps | MartijnVdS, | 10:12 |
| mapps | you flew KLM? | 10:12 |
| mapps | they only let you check in 24 hour before | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | no, EJ | 10:12 |
| mapps | no i mean have you ever | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | I flew to London City once with KLM | 10:12 |
| mapps | still nice to be able to use your phone..ryan air dont let u...so if you forget the bordon pass you pays 70quid per person | 10:13 |
| MartijnVdS | and to SF and back | 10:13 |
| mapps | but with KLM i can checkin upto 30mins before flight..and there's free wifi at airports so could do it on my phone | 10:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Ryanair makes it easy to make mistakes, and expensive to correct them | 10:13 |
| mapps | ya | 10:14 |
| MartijnVdS | and that's where they get most of their money | 10:14 |
| mapps | yep | 10:14 |
| MartijnVdS | "People are stupid" :) | 10:14 |
| mapps | :D | 10:14 |
| shauno | I've honestly never had a problem with ryanair | 10:15 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: Sure, if you read everything before clicking and check for typos in your name, everything is fine | 10:16 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: though in-flight drinks are on the expensive side.. but on a 2 hour flight shouldn't need too many drinks really | 10:17 |
| shauno | is "I can spell my name" really a difficult bar to set? | 10:17 |
| MartijnVdS | but most people just click through, mistype their names, don't see that luggage = extra money | 10:17 |
| shauno | yeah, inflight purchases are actually their revenue stream | 10:17 |
| shauno | the rest is high because to force people to double-check stuff so they need less staff | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: Three people in front of me in the Easyjet line had to have their misspellings fixed. And were angry that they had to pay. | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | I'm assuming Ryanair typo rates are similar | 10:18 |
| shauno | well trained customers = cheaper customer service | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | sure | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | though the relative luxury of that KLM flight to San Francisco is nice :) | 10:19 |
| shauno | well yeah, I wouldn't want to go that far with bargain basements | 10:19 |
| MartijnVdS | They just put the drinks cart somewhere and made it a self-serve bar 8-) | 10:19 |
| shauno | there was an outfit a few years back doing london to hong kong for 75GBP. that both interested & terrified me | 10:20 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: I'd figure out a way to get sleeping pills before boarding that | 10:21 |
| MartijnVdS | wake me up when we've landed | 10:21 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:21 |
| MartijnVdS | \o brobostigon | 10:21 |
| brobostigon | morning MartijnVdS | 10:21 |
| shauno | I guess I'm just glad for ryanair because they've led me on a lot of strange trips that wouldn't have happened otherwise | 10:33 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 12:34 |
| penguin42 | Hey BC | 12:36 |
| dogmatic69_ | what can I use to monitor traffic on my network? | 12:51 |
| dogmatic69_ | eg: usage by user / sites etc. | 12:51 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: It depends a bit how your network is setup and what you want to measure | 12:59 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: When you say 'by user' is that which particular machine or a particular logged on user? | 12:59 |
| dogmatic69_ | ye, machine / ip | 13:03 |
| dogmatic69_ | just simple home network with router -> machines | 13:03 |
| dogmatic69_ | I guess something like bind on one, with the router configured to use it as dns? | 13:03 |
| dogmatic69_ | mostly what machines are accessing | 13:04 |
| penguin42 | ok, so by IP isn't too bad | 13:05 |
| dogmatic69_ | ye, everything has a static IP address | 13:06 |
| penguin42 | there are things like iptop that you can watch current behaviour; longer term recording hmm not too sure | 13:06 |
| dogmatic69_ | something like ntop? | 13:06 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: If you force stuff through a squid cache it's easy to record what urls are being accessed | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | yeh like ntop was what I was thinking of | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69_ | not sure if that can do network wide? | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69_ | squid cache? | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: squid - it's a http cache | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69_ | ok | 13:07 |
| dogmatic69_ | does ntop cover the whole network? | 13:08 |
| penguin42 | it covers what that machines network can see | 13:09 |
| ali1234 | hmm.... i appear to have found a bug in systemd | 13:21 |
| penguin42 | report it/fix it | 13:25 |
| dogmatic69_ | penguin42: just installed ntopng. awesome compared with last version... | 13:26 |
| ali1234 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/1268301 | 13:33 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1268301 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu) "udev alsa restore restore rules are broken" [Undecided,New] | 13:33 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Hmm that's going to cause some fun behaviours - now search for all bugs where people are finding the sound on one card doing something odd | 13:40 |
| ali1234 | yep | 13:40 |
| ali1234 | i'm testing if it happens in fedora | 13:40 |
| ali1234 | i don't see how it can be anything other than systemd/udev causing it, because nothing else involved has changed - not even upstream | 13:41 |
| ali1234 | fedora avoids the problem by not using that $attr{} construct at all | 13:42 |
| ali1234 | systemd tests take ages to run :/ | 14:03 |
| ali1234 | it's impossible to search for any real information about systemd because of all the blog posts complaining about it | 14:40 |
| penguin42 | yeh - my experience so far is it generally works quite well | 14:43 |
| ali1234 | $attr substitution doesn't work on fedora either :/ | 14:55 |
| MooDoo | afternoon all | 15:05 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Is that supposed to be $ATTRS{number} ? | 15:05 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: no. that is something totally different | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | it's not supposed to be $ATTR{number} either, which is also a different thing | 15:06 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Oh, it does conveniently have the value 0 :-) | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | yes but it won't be accepted by the format string parser | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | it will just be passed through verbatim | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | one way to make the script work is by just putting $number | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | but $attr{number} is supposed to work according to the documentation | 15:07 |
| penguin42 | now is it the docs or the code that's wrong? | 15:09 |
| ali1234 | that's what i'm trying to figure out | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | I suggested the ATTR{number} because that's the format udevadm info prints it in | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | $attr does something different | 15:12 |
| penguin42 | are you sure? the stuff from udevadm looks like the sysfs files of the same name | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | yes it is | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | that's where it comes from | 15:13 |
| ali1234 | try it if you don't believe me (i already have) | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | no, I'm fine to let you find the potholes | 15:13 |
| ali1234 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6739002/ <- put that in /etc/udev/rules.d/99-test.rules | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | then sudo udevadm control --reload-rules | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | then udevadm test --action=add /class/sound/controlC0 | 15:14 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Is the problem here that you're doing it on controlC0 rather than the card0? There is no number file in /sys/class/sound/card0/controlC0/ but there is in /sys/class/sound/card0 ? | 15:17 |
| penguin42 | so it's right, there is no number attribute on controlC0 | 15:18 |
| penguin42 | and $attr only says to use an entry from a parent device if a previous KERNELS/SUBSYSTEMS/DRIVERS/ATTRS tests selected a parent | 15:19 |
| foobarry | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-Is-More-Secure-Than-Windows-8-and-Mac-OS-X-Says-UK-Goverment-416016.shtml | 15:52 |
| foobarry | http://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/UK-Gov-Report-Summary.pdf | 15:54 |
| directhex | it's that time again! :D | 15:57 |
| penguin42 | MS license price negotiation time? | 15:58 |
| directhex | Latest release: Release4 (2014-01-08u1) (released 2014-01-12) | 15:59 |
| directhex | i should probably sleep more... | 16:00 |
| directhex | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5be21a7a4f4b919e13f65eef113a8bc97e037ad0&dn=yeoldesteamos-release4-20140108u1.iso&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce | 16:00 |
| popey | got a normal torrent url pls? | 16:04 |
| directhex | http://retro.apebox.org/yeoldesteamos-release4-20140108u1.iso.torrent | 16:06 |
| popey | ta | 16:06 |
| popey | odd, not downloading anything here | 16:10 |
| popey | magnet is in transmission though | 16:10 |
| popey | ah, magnet on laptop can see my vps tho | 16:10 |
| popey | thats better, chugging along now | 16:11 |
| shauno | I see popey.com on mine :p | 16:11 |
| popey | does yours resolve ip to host or did you look it up? | 16:11 |
| shauno | it resolves | 16:12 |
| popey | neat | 16:12 |
| directhex | transmission doesn't resolve here | 16:12 |
| directhex | i see deluge, 2xtransmission, and one generic libtorrent | 16:12 |
| popey | i have 1xtransmission and 2xrtorrent | 16:13 |
| shauno | I'm using https://code.google.com/p/transmisson-remote-gui/ because it's running on a box elsewhere | 16:13 |
| popey | (mine) | 16:13 |
| * popey leaves it running while going to make cottage pie i think | 16:14 | |
| ali1234 | i got up to 60 ratio on the last one | 16:33 |
| popey | yeah, same here, was peak/troughy, but quite popular | 16:34 |
| directhex | another slow torrents day. thanks, bt | 16:36 |
| * daftykins jumps on the torrent | 16:43 | |
| daftykins | hmm looks like you announced it a bit sooner this time, tonnes on it already? :D | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | i'm at ratio 1 and i've only downloaded 25% of it | 16:47 |
| daftykins | yeah it's ground to a halt ~the 27% mark | 16:47 |
| diddledan | what we torrenting? | 16:48 |
| daftykins | latest steamos again from directhex | 16:48 |
| directhex | let me see what i can do | 16:48 |
| diddledan | hmm, should I plop a torrentbox up somewhere to helpout? | 16:49 |
| popey | its bottlenecked on directhex upstream atm | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 16:49 |
| directhex | yeah | 16:49 |
| directhex | :/ | 16:49 |
| foobarry | any risc os users here? | 16:50 |
| penguin42 | not for about ooh 15 years | 16:51 |
| shauno | lol, that's cute; 'someone' shows up as Guernsey, but it has no idea what flag to assign to them | 16:51 |
| diddledan | lol | 16:52 |
| foobarry | i heard risc os is now open source | 16:54 |
| daftykins | shauno: :D | 16:54 |
| daftykins | shauno: do i have an addy or just IP? | 16:54 |
| daftykins | assuming your client resolves | 16:54 |
| shauno | a name, bbdhome2-blahblahblah | 16:54 |
| shauno | it just looks a tad silly in the UI because everyone else has flags | 16:55 |
| daftykins | fancy not having the Guernsey flag =| | 16:56 |
| diddledan | lol, nice: http://retro.apebox.org/index.php?section=six&rant=irc.rant <-- I been nosey | 16:56 |
| daftykins | i am insulted! | 16:56 |
| popey | file a bug ☻ | 16:57 |
| diddledan | does guernsey even have a flag? | 16:57 |
| * popey mashes spuds | 16:57 | |
| diddledan | I mean there's like three people there, what are the chances one of you has a spare rag? :-p | 16:57 |
| diddledan | </troll> | 16:57 |
| shauno | interesting, I can't checkout svn on this 3g connection. it doesn't make it through o2-ie's mangler | 16:59 |
| directhex | ok someone else on BT just connected, 1.12MB up now | 16:59 |
| daftykins | diddledan: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Flag_of_Guernsey.svg | 16:59 |
| diddledan | yeah, but that's wiki. | 17:00 |
| diddledan | and it looks decidedly like dicky the lion heart's shield | 17:00 |
| popey | http://popey.com/bandwidth/ | 17:06 |
| popey | click "days" and spot where directhex releases yeoldesteamos | 17:06 |
| shauno | well boo. there's nothing in the zip of flags to say where they got it from | 17:07 |
| shauno | if it makes you feel better, comcast via ipv6 isn't getting a flag either. so not only are you not alone, but you might be the future | 17:09 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:10 |
| daftykins | yeah i've spotted the IPv6-ers get nothing | 17:10 |
| daftykins | woohoo complete | 17:12 |
| shauno | :( the list got really boring now | 17:14 |
| shauno | I'm not sure there's any solution for this, but I find it interesting that the ipv6 client appears to be connected by both 4+6, and is being served as two separate peers | 17:15 |
| daftykins | how funky | 17:33 |
| daftykins | how did you spot the v6 matching the v4s? | 17:33 |
| shauno | two customers on the same ISP with the same % complete, just looks suss | 17:37 |
| shauno | customers, clients, peers, whatever. I've been at work since 6am :( | 17:38 |
| foobarry | penguin42: i'm trying to remember an archimedes adventure game that starts with you being guarded in a train carriage...know it? | 17:40 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: No, I didn't play much games on the Arch | 17:41 |
| ali1234 | foobarry: text adventure? | 17:41 |
| foobarry | yeah ali1234 | 17:42 |
| ali1234 | was it an infocom one? | 17:42 |
| ali1234 | was it corruption? | 17:43 |
| foobarry | i was just looking at the corruption wiki | 17:43 |
| foobarry | from memory i'm thinking it might be. | 17:43 |
| foobarry | how did you get out of the carriage? | 17:43 |
| foobarry | ask for the toilet? | 17:43 |
| ali1234 | i dunno? | 17:44 |
| ali1234 | i'm just googling | 17:44 |
| ali1234 | http://www.lemonamiga.com/?game_id=1557 | 17:44 |
| foobarry | maybe corruption came out at similar time | 17:44 |
| ali1234 | did it have graphics like that? | 17:44 |
| foobarry | not corruption | 17:45 |
| foobarry | first scene is you in a train carriage | 17:45 |
| ali1234 | http://msmemorial.if-legends.org/games.htm/jinxter.php | 17:47 |
| ali1234 | mentions something about a train | 17:47 |
| foobarry | hmmm doesn't seem to be the one from my memory, | 17:51 |
| foobarry | it was certainly an earlier arch game , trawling through the mag scrolls ones | 17:51 |
| bigcalm | directhex: just nabbed your latest torrent. I am currently seeding beta1 & beta2. What should I drop (if any)? | 17:52 |
| bigcalm | beta1 got to a ratio of 0.4. beta2 got to 30.1 :) | 17:52 |
| directhex | bigcalm, drop everything that isn't release 4 | 17:53 |
| directhex | (i've simplified the version numbering now, too) | 17:53 |
| bigcalm | Okay | 17:53 |
| daftykins | shauno: weekend work O_O | 17:55 |
| shauno | it's not that bad | 17:55 |
| shauno | I had thursday/friday off, will have monday/tuesday off, and enjoy two shifts with no adult supervision | 17:56 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 17:56 |
| shauno | eg; the most I've done in the last 2 hours, is try to figure out why this client has no gg.png | 17:58 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:59 |
| daftykins | can i have a job? | 17:59 |
| popey | wheee 5MB/s | 18:18 |
| daftykins | :) | 18:18 |
| daftykins | haha, my brothers latest toy is a quadracopter | 18:49 |
| daftykins | the views of Guernsey are quite nice in this one | 18:49 |
| daftykins | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcHqoiV-Z8c | 18:49 |
| bigcalm | That's incredibly steady | 18:50 |
| bigcalm | No wind I'm guessing | 18:50 |
| daftykins | it was pretty good yesterday | 18:51 |
| bigcalm | Sounds like a herd of strimmers | 18:51 |
| popey | whih one is it? | 18:52 |
| bigcalm | It appears to be in the 'gaming' category, bit odd | 18:53 |
| daftykins | yeah i thought that | 18:54 |
| bigcalm | Is it a live feed back to the controls, or is it only available once downloaded? | 18:55 |
| bigcalm | I want one now | 18:55 |
| daftykins | i was given the vid link and that's all i know unfortunately | 18:55 |
| daftykins | lol | 18:55 |
| bigcalm | Pfft | 18:56 |
| daftykins | i suspect it was just a goPro attached | 18:59 |
| bigcalm | Time to do my duty and be in the sitting room while Dancing on Ice is on. Hooray for laptop and headphones! | 19:01 |
| popey | hahaha | 19:01 |
| popey | unlucky | 19:01 |
| bigcalm | It's nice to spend time together, even if we're doing different things | 19:02 |
| daftykins | =] | 19:02 |
| bigcalm | Today's big outing was to Dreams | 19:02 |
| daftykins | anything but that :'( | 19:02 |
| penguin42 | did you fall asleep? | 19:02 |
| bigcalm | Spent over 1.2K on a new mattress :S | 19:03 |
| diddledan | ouch | 19:03 |
| popey | wat | 19:03 |
| popey | u mad bro | 19:03 |
| bigcalm | Yus | 19:03 |
| diddledan | by eck that's alotta dough | 19:03 |
| bigcalm | I'm looking forward to sleeping well once more | 19:03 |
| popey | i should coco for that amount | 19:03 |
| penguin42 | hmm, I can see how that can happen; I spent about 700 on one probably near 7 years ago - and that was a custom size but only a bit over single | 19:03 |
| popey | I'd expect to never wake up | 19:03 |
| penguin42 | bigcalm: Temper ? | 19:03 |
| bigcalm | I think it was something like 1.1K for the mattress and then extra for the delivery and wotnot | 19:04 |
| penguin42 | (tempor?) | 19:04 |
| bigcalm | penguin42: amazingly no. We didn't find the Temper as comfortable | 19:04 |
| penguin42 | bigcalm: Was it a clone of a temper or a more normal one? | 19:04 |
| diddledan | silentnight? | 19:04 |
| bigcalm | penguin42: more normal one. I should go and find the receipt | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | nod; mine is a Temper clone | 19:05 |
| diddledan | that's the one that makes you feel weightless (according to the advert) | 19:05 |
| bigcalm | popey: made use of wedding money. Only way we could ever entertain the idea of a new decent mattress | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Which is rubbish - they are comfy but not that weightless | 19:05 |
| diddledan | I think waking up feeling weightless might make my mind go madder than it already is (at least for the moment) | 19:05 |
| popey | our mattress was bought from amazon while laying on the old one. | 19:06 |
| popey | "Alan, order a new mattress" | 19:06 |
| popey | "How about this one?" | 19:06 |
| popey | "Looks good" | 19:06 |
| diddledan | popey: lifestyle of champions | 19:06 |
| popey | "Ok, I'll be here on monday" | 19:06 |
| daftykins | brother says he had first person view showing lots of telemetry | 19:06 |
| penguin42 | popey: Do you have it on subscription? | 19:06 |
| popey | hah, no | 19:06 |
| popey | *it'll | 19:06 |
| diddledan | if you pay more on amazon they'll be kind enough not to show you adverts | 19:06 |
| penguin42 | really? | 19:07 |
| daftykins | so he has goggles for it @_@ http://www.fatshark.com/ | 19:07 |
| diddledan | I wonder how adverts will work on a mattress though | 19:07 |
| popey | amazon is one giant advert | 19:07 |
| popey | I am sure I tested my RPi powered by a USB battery but I can't remember how long it lasted | 19:08 |
| popey | wondering how long the battery would last powering Pi and two motors, scuttling around | 19:08 |
| diddledan | surely that'll depend on the size of your epeen.. erm.. battery | 19:09 |
| popey | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141142336606?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 | 19:09 |
| popey | 13000mah | 19:09 |
| bigcalm | £1,284.98 Sotheby | 19:09 |
| diddledan | so 13 hours at 1amp delivery | 19:09 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: did you just fish out the receipt, you geek? | 19:10 |
| popey | might need to get a newer Pi | 19:10 |
| bigcalm | diddledan: yes, I paid on my personal debit card. Needed the amount so that I can transfer it from the joint account | 19:10 |
| diddledan | why is it when a person from a known category of society comments on another person's membership of that same category it isn't as offensive as when a third person who isn't a member does so in the same manner? | 19:11 |
| diddledan | e.g. kids at school yelling "GEEEEEEEK" vs me calling bigcalm a geek just now | 19:12 |
| daftykins | the pot and the kettle are on better terms | 19:12 |
| bigcalm | :) | 19:12 |
| diddledan | does the pot call the kettle the word beginning with N that those of the opposing chroma value aren't allowed anywhere near? | 19:13 |
| diddledan | at the risk of being mildly offensive I think the phrase should be changed to "wassup my racially equivalent male sibling?!" | 19:15 |
| shauno | diddledan: what have I told you about thinking too much? | 19:15 |
| diddledan | shauno: it's a curse | 19:15 |
| diddledan | shauno: I'm good at foot-in-mouth disease | 19:16 |
| daftykins | in some ways i wonder if the words' power/value would be destroyed if we all just chose to use it from one day forward | 19:17 |
| shauno | I've just figured out that toys that I thought were broke, aren't. which is almost as good as having new toys to play with | 19:17 |
| bigcalm | Aha, I think I've found the mattress on the website: http://www.dreams.co.uk/mattresses/pocket-spring-mattresses/sotheby-mattress | 19:17 |
| diddledan | shauno: bedroom antics getting spicy? | 19:17 |
| shauno | even better! a hf upconverter for this lil sdr dongle wotsit | 19:18 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: it only works for 40 days and 40 nights? that's somewhat biblical at least | 19:19 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 19:19 |
| daftykins | popey + bigcalm the copter appears to be: http://www.dji.com/product/phantom-2/ | 19:19 |
| bigcalm | diddledan: if after 30 days, and before 40 days) one is unhappy with the mattress, one can change it for another one | 19:19 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: ta | 19:20 |
| daftykins | you can program it to follow waypoints via GPS O_O | 19:20 |
| bigcalm | £352 from the 1st site | 19:20 |
| bigcalm | Interesting | 19:20 |
| bigcalm | Cool | 19:21 |
| diddledan | daftykins: bigcalm: this cross-purpose conversation looks weird - I read a statement about a mattress being replaceable followed by a comment that you can set it to use gps | 19:21 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:21 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 19:21 |
| daftykins | bigcalm: i think my brothers getting all the toys in before the plan to have a baby with his Mrs succeeds! | 19:22 |
| diddledan | because we all need a mattress that takes you down a narrow lane in the middle of the night | 19:22 |
| daftykins | doesn't yours? | 19:22 |
| diddledan | it hasn't done so yet, but then I haven't plugged it in.. ever | 19:23 |
| diddledan | so it's probably got no juice | 19:23 |
| daftykins | ah-har | 19:24 |
| daftykins | under-utilised :( | 19:24 |
| diddledan | let's leave my personal life out of this :-p | 19:24 |
| daftykins | http://pastebin.com/Wj07L3Bx | 19:30 |
| daftykins | amusing email | 19:30 |
| ali1234 | http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/landgrab.asp | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | sorry | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | certainly not 100% true | 19:58 |
| daftykins | i hardly need fact to keep it entertaining ;) was just one of a contacts many emails | 19:58 |
| daftykins | i'm somewhat surprised you went out of your way to check | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | it's what i do | 20:00 |
| daftykins | Captain Buzzkill :D | 20:01 |
| ali1234 | this one is real: http://www.uproxx.com/webculture/2013/06/this-cease-and-desist-response-is-pretty-amazing/ | 20:02 |
| ali1234 | shauno: HF upconverter allows it to receiver lower frequencies right? | 20:04 |
| shauno | that's the plan | 20:05 |
| ali1234 | how much would that type of thing cost and can i build it myself? | 20:05 |
| shauno | it's not going so well, but that's the idea. to move 0-30 to 100-130 (better ones have a 125MHz LO so you don't get clobbered by the broadcast band) | 20:05 |
| ali1234 | does it not shift *everything*? | 20:07 |
| shauno | nooelec have a variant for about $40, which has a better reputation than mine ('ham it up'). mine was about 20e from hungary | 20:07 |
| ali1234 | i know nothing about radio | 20:07 |
| shauno | I actually have very little idea how it works myself. I know that you start with an input signal and a local oscillator. after that, "a stork brings it" | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | ali1234/shauno: It's pretty simple | 20:09 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: What you do is you multiply/mix a sine wave oscillator with your signal and out of that mixer you get signal+sine and signal-sine frequencies | 20:09 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: You then put a filter in to keep only the bits you're interested in | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: The process is called heterodyning | 20:10 |
| shauno | I just view it as being a superhet backwards | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | why backwards? | 20:10 |
| shauno | instead of using a VFO to bring it down to an IF, I'm going up instead | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | nod | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | :S | 20:11 |
| ali1234 | big words | 20:11 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: i went and bugged the systemd people about the alsa problem and one of them sent a patch to alsa-devel | 20:11 |
| penguin42 | shauno: You have to be a little careful to make sure the LO and the products you get from it land outside where ever your filter is | 20:11 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Ah cool | 20:12 |
| shauno | I'm not sure there's a filter doing it this way? | 20:12 |
| penguin42 | shauno: You don't necessarily need one as long as you're careful about which bit of the output frequency range you're looking at | 20:13 |
| ali1234 | wouldn't you just do the filter in software anyway? | 20:13 |
| shauno | I understand that in normal usage, you have a variable oscillator, a fixed output frequency, and you filter each side of the output frequency | 20:13 |
| shauno | this thing has a fixed oscillator, and a wide output, so I tune around inside the output | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Yeh but in reality you tend to have multiple oscillators/mixers/filter stages | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Yes but only if you're careful that the sets of outputs you get into your sampling don't alias to each other | 20:14 |
| shauno | this one looks incredibly simple; http://www.ebay.ie/itm/181300457997 (the one I have, not necessarily the one I'd recommend) | 20:16 |
| shauno | the shiney that's hard to read in the pictures is labelled 100M | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Oh that's neat | 20:18 |
| penguin42 | shauno: So say you've got a signal at 10MHz, if I understand correctly you're signal will end up appearing at 90MHz and 110MHz on the output | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | i know for a fact i have a 100Mhz crystal in my junk box... | 20:19 |
| shauno | I believe that's the plan, yeah | 20:20 |
| shauno | although so far it's not what I'd hoped for. but it does seem to be working, I've found some SW broadcast bands | 20:20 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Now, say you've got an incoming signal at 50MHz, you'll get an output at 150MHz and oh hmm 50MHz which will probably get confusing with the input | 20:21 |
| ali1234 | http://blog.kf7lze.net/tag/up-converter/ <- this looks pretty simple | 20:21 |
| shauno | a 100MHz LO wasn't the best idea though. I know 'ham it up' have an option of a 125MHz xtal so you're not fighting the broadcast band | 20:21 |
| shauno | ali1234: you can go the other direction too. I found someone who was bringing 8GHz down to something a cheap sdr could reach, which (plus a large dish) allowed him to copy the china mars thing | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | awesome | 20:24 |
| penguin42 | nice | 20:24 |
| ali1234 | on a slightly unrelated topic, is there any good oscilloscope software for linux? | 20:25 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: "The last Monday of January is bubble wrap awareness day"</QI> | 20:30 |
| DJones | Finally, a use for cats https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/999929_631936796891355_917710229_n.jpg Pillows :) | 20:53 |
| shauno | they also make good draught excluders | 20:56 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRPWlBAgSnw | 20:57 |
| bigcalm | Opened terminal, forgot why | 21:25 |
| shauno | I do that with the fridge | 21:26 |
| shauno | often when the fridge wasn't involved in the original plan at all. just sit and stare for a little while, until I remember I was looking for a coffee cup | 21:27 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:28 |
| daftykins | i have a thing with browsing onto my storage array, if i need to do something work related i go into the TV Series folder, if i need to do something TV series related i go into the work folder | 21:29 |
| shauno | OH that reminds me sherlock's tonight. ta muchley | 21:32 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: too late | 21:32 |
| MartijnVdS | it started an hour ago | 21:32 |
| shauno | too late is even betterer, it won't be on the webs until it's finished :) | 21:32 |
| * bigcalm pats the PVR | 21:36 | |
| ali1234 | mythtv :) | 21:36 |
| bigcalm | Or DVR | 21:36 |
| * bigcalm lets things get recorded | 21:36 | |
| bigcalm | get_iplayer FTW! | 21:36 |
| shauno | yeah I have one of those, but I don't get HD here. 74e a month and no HD | 21:37 |
| shauno | and the UI is horrible. it feels like the hardware is 4 years behind where the software thinks it is | 21:37 |
| shauno | it was fine until they tried to be clever with transparent overlays. oh well | 21:39 |
| shauno | I guess I just generally dislike my ISP. they sent me a letter telling me that if I continue to transfer this much, they'll have to bump me to a higher tier | 21:43 |
| shauno | so I phoned them up and asked if I could have moar internets, and they had to admit they don't have a higher tier | 21:44 |
| daftykins | lol | 21:45 |
| daftykins | great letter | 21:45 |
| daftykins | how much are you pushing? | 21:45 |
| ali1234 | iplayer is terrible quality :/ | 21:46 |
| shauno | the letter says 834GB, and appparently 'unlimited' is 500 | 21:47 |
| bigcalm | ali1234: not terrible for radio shows :) | 21:49 |
| Myrtti | popey: http://www.indiedb.com/games/catlateral-damage | 21:53 |
| daftykins | shauno: perhaps it's easier to have two services to the same property :D | 21:53 |
| bigcalm | Time to buy a new laptop. This one can't cope with my very simple dev needs. *grumble* | 21:53 |
| shauno | that I'm actually curious about. I have two IPs off them and I shouldn't. so I'm not sure if they're accounting for that | 21:54 |
| SuperMatt | http://imgur.com/9QF7FFz <- this is me right now | 21:56 |
| bigcalm | Do I want to buy a Lenovo or Dell? | 21:57 |
| * bigcalm pokes popey | 21:57 | |
| bigcalm | popey: what laptop do you have? | 21:57 |
| shauno | we're apparently moving to lenovo at work. thinkpad->dell inspiron->hp probook->thinkpad. I guess. | 21:57 |
| shauno | I'm not complaining though. it seems they've decided the best way to migrate to win7 is to just start issuing everyone new laptops | 21:58 |
| daftykins | ;/ | 21:58 |
| daftykins | i suppose it takes away the time pressure | 21:58 |
| shauno | I can't believe I'm excited about a windows upgrade. I'll finally be able to use over 2.7GB of ram! | 22:00 |
| shauno | (my current machine has 8GB of ram and windows XP) | 22:00 |
| daftykins | work one? | 22:00 |
| shauno | yeah | 22:00 |
| daftykins | ouch >_< | 22:00 |
| daftykins | untapped potential | 22:00 |
| popey | bigcalm: x220 | 22:02 |
| bigcalm | popey: ta | 22:02 |
| popey | current laptops on my list of "what I would like if someone else was paying" is dell xps and thinkpad x1 carbon | 22:03 |
| popey | the new xps with touchscreen would be handy for me | 22:03 |
| moreati | popey: the current base model macbook pro 15 works very well with Trusty. Down side is complete lack of upgradability, and fragility of Apple PSU | 22:06 |
| shauno | fragility .. physically? | 22:07 |
| moreati | shauno: yes, where the DC cable meets each end | 22:07 |
| shauno | ah, yeah. I go through about one a year :/ | 22:07 |
| popey | i had one replaced after 3 years | 22:08 |
| moreati | shauno: if you can solder then just the cable is available on eBay for ~£10 | 22:08 |
| popey | out of warranty, apple replaced both the power board in the laptop and the external supply | 22:08 |
| moreati | no such luck here | 22:08 |
| popey | ☹ | 22:09 |
| shauno | my current solution has been to get one for work and one for home, so I'm not rolling it up 4 days a week | 22:09 |
| daftykins | their length can be a downside sometimes, eh? | 22:16 |
| bigcalm | Why is it so difficult to find high end screen res on lenovo and dell websites? | 22:17 |
| bigcalm | I don't want to just buy the most expensive thing | 22:17 |
| shauno | it's not the length, it's that now and then they sacrifice sturdy for pretty | 22:18 |
| shauno | apple basically suck at cables and mice | 22:18 |
| shauno | (mice because they hate buttons, which is a mooses dayjob) | 22:18 |
| daftykins | :) | 22:19 |
| daftykins | bigcalm: i know what you mean, so many laptops are still restricted to the depths of 1366x768 instead of at least a 1080p panel | 22:19 |
| bigcalm | Looking at http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-15-7537/pd?oc=cn75305&model_id=inspiron-15-7537 as it's something that I can afford | 22:24 |
| Azelphur | bigcalm: that hard drive will drag the system down, forking out for a touch screen on a laptop isn't great imo | 22:31 |
| bigcalm | Azelphur: I'll be replacing the HDD with an SSD I already have spare. I don't care for touch screens. It seems the most affordable performance machine with high res screen though | 22:32 |
| shauno | I think touchscreens are kinda personal. some people love them, some people hate them (for me, if you leave a thumbprint on my screen I'll leave you unable to procreate) | 22:32 |
| * bigcalm chuckles | 22:33 | |
| daftykins | hehehe :D | 22:33 |
| daftykins | yeah screen touching has always been a grating one for me | 22:33 |
| shauno | "you're pointing .. you're pointing .. noooo ... now you must die" | 22:34 |
| shauno | the polish guy at work just grabs your hand and moves it away. I wish I had that confidence. | 22:36 |
| Azelphur | :p | 22:36 |
| Azelphur | bigcalm: if you're feeling brave, laptops are much cheaper in USA | 22:37 |
| bigcalm | Nope, I'm a chicken | 22:37 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 22:37 |
| daftykins | it's when they poke so hard you can see the LCD colours go funky | 22:38 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: how're your super bandwidths sir? | 22:39 |
| Azelphur | It's evening now, so fine | 22:39 |
| * bigcalm tootles off to bed | 22:39 | |
| daftykins | Azelphur: oh right it's only in peak hours it sucks? | 22:40 |
| Azelphur | yu | 22:40 |
| Azelphur | p | 22:40 |
| shauno | I remember when I first got the internet. I digitized my circadian rhythm; 'peak hours' became 'bedtime' | 22:42 |
| Azelphur | same, I was on free dialup | 22:42 |
| shauno | we had the free dialup you paid for. which makes sense according to BT | 22:42 |
| shauno | iirc you could pay 15 squids/mo and get the calls free, or pay nothing and pay penny/minute for the calls | 22:44 |
| shauno | both they termed 'free' | 22:44 |
| Azelphur | haha | 22:44 |
| daftykins | i had to beg for AOL after years of 1p/min | 22:45 |
| daftykins | ;/ | 22:45 |
| shauno | I just remember spending way too long on the phone to them trying to get the right dial-in number when I spent a week away from home | 22:46 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 22:46 |
| shauno | at which point I was paying 1p/m for the call because I wasn't at home, and 15/mo for the account | 22:46 |
| shauno | I think it just stands out because it was the first time I realised I was paying for the privilege of teaching tech support | 22:47 |
| popey | the only reason I want a touch screen laptop is to test ubuntu touch apps ☻ | 22:48 |
| shauno | I'd love a touchscreen laptop if my laptop was small/light enough to wipe the screen off on my shirt | 22:49 |
| popey | hah | 22:50 |
| popey | i find myself wiping the camera more than the screen | 22:50 |
| Myrtti | imgur is full of cats today it seems | 22:50 |
| shauno | isn't that what the internet's for? | 22:51 |
| Myrtti | http://imgur.com/gallery/hVDBjSl | 22:51 |
| popey | Myrtti: thanks for that cat link | 23:00 |
| Myrtti | popey: np | 23:03 |
| popey | http://www.theserverstore.com/content/dell-poweredge-c6100-servers | 23:09 |
| popey | hmm | 23:09 |
| ali1234 | a review of my predictions for 2013, made in 2012: https://plus.google.com/117474986382867317779/posts/iL21YorCLXf | 23:28 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I should do that sort of thing, people would stop telling me I was crazy xD | 23:29 |
| shauno | Azelphur: how do I put this gently. you are crazy. | 23:29 |
| Azelphur | true | 23:29 |
| popey | bigcalm: what did you order? | 23:31 |
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