[00:01] I think I want a pizza [00:01] at midnight :o [00:05] midnight feast :-p [00:05] ^_^ [00:06] i've been murdering twiglets all evening [00:06] * diddledan sings the twiglet zone music [00:06] there was music!? [00:06] * penguin42 murdered an Aldi chocolate Reindeer earlier - it was very nice (and cheap) [00:06] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y [00:07] I love murdering chocolate creatures of all kinds [00:07] popey: Are you there? I have a question I need to ask you [00:07] I killed a chocolate santa the other day [00:08] Elions: always to the left [00:08] popey: What plugin do you use to post your podcast automatically to an RSS feed? I don't know if you remember me but i'm Azelphur's friend who was trying to set up a Bitcoin Podcast [00:08] See, our RSS poster at the moment seems to make it impossible to put out podcast on Itunes [00:08] bitcoins? [00:09] ali1234: Yup. Bitcoin [00:09] my favourite bitcoin website shut down today [00:09] :-o [00:09] Elions: hello [00:09] ali1234: That's a shame. Which one was it? [00:09] good guy op didn't steal all the funds, so there's that [00:10] bitquestion [00:10] Elions: wordpress + podpress [00:10] bitcoins are a bit of a wild west atm [00:10] lots of early scams [00:10] it'll settle down I guess like the west did [00:10] popey: Thank you. I was looking for it but wordpress' search engine is basically useless. [00:11] so we'll end up with all the beautiful people there making movies [00:11] Elions: the admin pages have a plugin search mechanism [00:11] that's the same thing [00:11] daftykins: Yeah, that's the one I was using [00:11] Anyhow, thank you very much popey. Sorry if I interrupted anything, mate. [00:11] oic [00:11] if you need custom wordpress plugins i can do write them for you [00:12] ali1234: We're good for now, no worries. [00:21] Azelphur: i can turn my lights on and off with the g19 keys now :) [00:21] https://github.com/ali1234/avr-433/blob/master/firmware/main.c [00:26] i probably made everyone's doorbell ring on my street while developing this [00:26] and all their garage doors open and car alarms turn on and off [00:27] what hardware is that? [00:28] http://www.quasaruk.co.uk/acatalog/info_QAM_TX1_433.html [00:28] the plugs are from maplin but they don't sell them any more [00:29] and the AVR board is a minimus32 === MrGarlic_ is now known as MrGarlic [00:29] also i used a RTL-SDR to look at the signals, with rtl-433, gqrx, and gnuradio-companion [00:29] oh that's tiny [00:30] (and cheap) [00:30] yeah [00:30] the minimus board is also tiny and cheap [00:30] actually everything involved was cheap [00:30] I'd played with gqrx and the rtl-sdr but hadn't come across gnuradio-companion - I played with the rtl when stuff was still a bit touchy, I should try again [00:30] there is a fairly good ppa with it all now [00:31] gr-companion is like a drag and drop filter graph editor [00:31] it's not very easy to use [00:31] and it crashes a lot [00:32] oh, maybe I did use that - I certainly edited a gnuradio graph - but didn't have the patience to do anything smart with it === LjL is now known as frenchtoast === frenchtoast is now known as phunygui === phunygui is now known as LjL === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [07:42] looks nippy out there today [07:43] we're having clear skies, blue with bits of red [07:44] yeas foobarry [07:44] its kinda cold [07:44] when i walked back from the casino was cold;/ [07:44] Apparently it's 0°C outside here [07:44] mapps: did you win? :) [07:45] dont play really i just go for a beer [07:45] horrible places [07:45] the UKs lowest [07:45] everyone there will tell you they 'broke even' or 'won a few quid' [07:46] so casinos must operate on good faith;p [07:49] pink/blue skies out there, frost on the field and the car [07:49] you get free sandwiches in casinos to [07:50] can't imagine the beer is exactly great [07:58] i just had a sudden urge to play gribbly's day out on the archimedes [07:58] that was a hard game [08:03] :D [08:03] going to London Dungeons next week:D [08:04] went to the amsterdam one on our ;last day there [08:04] i want a rasp pi to run RISC OS! [08:04] native [08:06] foobarry: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads bottom of the page? [08:11] the "want" in that sentence was the rasp pi..i don't own one [08:11] Ah, I assumed everyone had one (or several) by now :) [08:11] why not? I thought pretty much every had 3 or 4 by this point [08:13] i don't have anything with hdmi or dvi in the house [08:14] and i had a nslu2 already for my low power needs [08:17] i have a short term urge to play my old acorn games again [08:17] foobarry: RPi also has Composite out [08:17] don't know the quality of it.. but it exists [08:17] it happens occasionally and i faff around with the emulator and leave after a sub standard experience [08:17] yeah, prob no worse than the arch games quality for these purposes [08:56] morning === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [09:58] morning popey [09:58] going back home monday:D [09:58] back to good net [09:58] 75mbit ftc and 100mbit cable:D [09:58] * mapps is stuck on 6mbit here;/ [10:03] gotta brave the underground on monday again [10:03] ipad/netbook/nexus7 should be enough:D [10:04] kindle? [10:04] i have a nook:D [10:05] ipad air/ipad mini/nexus7/dell xps12 miini/dell xps i7/samsung nc10 [10:05] those are my 'portables' [10:05] mapps: XPS 12 with the rotating screen? :) [10:05] and my beloved iphone 5:) [10:05] yes sir [10:05] * MartijnVdS has one of those.. yay work 8-) [10:05] i buyed my dad one for his birthday also [10:05] theyre expensive [10:05] but nice [10:05] I wanted the Ubuntu edition 13" but it was sold out at the time (just before the new model launched.. but I needed a work laptop to work on..) [10:06] its a good quality laptop [10:06] but [10:06] its quite pricey..no? [10:06] It is [10:06] but I didn't have to pay, so it's good ;) [10:06] I've disabled the touch screen though [10:06] :) [10:07] so iil be taking [10:07] iphone 5/ipad air/ipad mini/nexus7/dell xps12/dell i7/samsung nc10 [10:07] that enough? [10:07] for a week [10:07] where? why? :) [10:08] back to my fathers [10:08] going home for a week [10:08] to Surrey [10:08] When I go away for a week I take my chromebook and my phone [10:08] maybe my kindle [10:08] aha [10:08] when i go abroad [10:08] xoom, work laptop and older VAIO stay at home [10:08] i take my iphone 5 and my netbook [10:08] becuse [10:08] my big laptop is too big..i dont pay for luggage [10:08] so i just use hold luggage :) [10:08] so a netbook is better [10:09] carry-on you mean.. hold luggage tends to cost money :) [10:09] ahh yes [10:09] sorry [10:09] so hold is the pay ? [10:09] hm [10:09] carry [10:09] The stuff take with you (hold in your hands) = carry-on [10:09] i meant carry on plane [10:09] yea [10:09] my normal laptop takes too much space on my bag [10:09] so i use my netbook [10:09] The "belly of the aircraft" where checked bags are stored is called the "hold" 8-) [10:10] aha so thats hold luggage [10:10] Yes, this is weird ;) [10:10] :D [10:10] i liked KLM [10:10] they were good [10:10] i used e-barcode thing [10:11] i went to work and both printers were broken so i had no choice had it sent to my phone [10:11] scanned it a manchester [10:11] then on amsterdam someone came and looked at it [10:11] but still really easy:D [10:11] boarding pass on phones [10:11] last time I flew, I went with Easyjet. Checked in a month before the flight 8-) [10:12] haa yea with some u can [10:12] but [10:12] MartijnVdS, [10:12] you flew KLM? [10:12] they only let you check in 24 hour before [10:12] no, EJ [10:12] no i mean have you ever [10:12] I flew to London City once with KLM [10:13] still nice to be able to use your phone..ryan air dont let u...so if you forget the bordon pass you pays 70quid per person [10:13] and to SF and back [10:13] but with KLM i can checkin upto 30mins before flight..and there's free wifi at airports so could do it on my phone [10:13] Ryanair makes it easy to make mistakes, and expensive to correct them [10:14] ya [10:14] and that's where they get most of their money [10:14] yep [10:14] "People are stupid" :) [10:14] :D [10:15] I've honestly never had a problem with ryanair [10:16] shauno: Sure, if you read everything before clicking and check for typos in your name, everything is fine [10:17] shauno: though in-flight drinks are on the expensive side.. but on a 2 hour flight shouldn't need too many drinks really [10:17] is "I can spell my name" really a difficult bar to set? [10:17] but most people just click through, mistype their names, don't see that luggage = extra money [10:17] yeah, inflight purchases are actually their revenue stream [10:18] the rest is high because to force people to double-check stuff so they need less staff [10:18] shauno: Three people in front of me in the Easyjet line had to have their misspellings fixed. And were angry that they had to pay. [10:18] I'm assuming Ryanair typo rates are similar [10:18] well trained customers = cheaper customer service [10:18] sure [10:19] though the relative luxury of that KLM flight to San Francisco is nice :) [10:19] well yeah, I wouldn't want to go that far with bargain basements [10:19] They just put the drinks cart somewhere and made it a self-serve bar 8-) [10:20] there was an outfit a few years back doing london to hong kong for 75GBP. that both interested & terrified me [10:21] shauno: I'd figure out a way to get sleeping pills before boarding that [10:21] wake me up when we've landed [10:21] good morning everyone. [10:21] \o brobostigon [10:21] morning MartijnVdS [10:33] I guess I'm just glad for ryanair because they've led me on a lot of strange trips that wouldn't have happened otherwise === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [12:34] Good morning peeps :) [12:36] Hey BC [12:51] what can I use to monitor traffic on my network? [12:51] eg: usage by user / sites etc. [12:59] dogmatic69_: It depends a bit how your network is setup and what you want to measure [12:59] dogmatic69_: When you say 'by user' is that which particular machine or a particular logged on user? [13:03] ye, machine / ip [13:03] just simple home network with router -> machines [13:03] I guess something like bind on one, with the router configured to use it as dns? [13:04] mostly what machines are accessing [13:05] ok, so by IP isn't too bad [13:06] ye, everything has a static IP address [13:06] there are things like iptop that you can watch current behaviour; longer term recording hmm not too sure [13:06] something like ntop? [13:07] dogmatic69_: If you force stuff through a squid cache it's easy to record what urls are being accessed [13:07] yeh like ntop was what I was thinking of [13:07] not sure if that can do network wide? [13:07] squid cache? [13:07] dogmatic69_: squid - it's a http cache [13:07] ok [13:08] does ntop cover the whole network? [13:09] it covers what that machines network can see [13:21] hmm.... i appear to have found a bug in systemd [13:25] report it/fix it [13:26] penguin42: just installed ntopng. awesome compared with last version... [13:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/1268301 [13:33] Ubuntu bug 1268301 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu) "udev alsa restore restore rules are broken" [Undecided,New] [13:40] ali1234: Hmm that's going to cause some fun behaviours - now search for all bugs where people are finding the sound on one card doing something odd [13:40] yep [13:40] i'm testing if it happens in fedora [13:41] i don't see how it can be anything other than systemd/udev causing it, because nothing else involved has changed - not even upstream [13:42] fedora avoids the problem by not using that $attr{} construct at all [14:03] systemd tests take ages to run :/ [14:40] it's impossible to search for any real information about systemd because of all the blog posts complaining about it [14:43] yeh - my experience so far is it generally works quite well [14:55] $attr substitution doesn't work on fedora either :/ [15:05] afternoon all [15:05] ali1234: Is that supposed to be $ATTRS{number} ? [15:06] penguin42: no. that is something totally different [15:06] it's not supposed to be $ATTR{number} either, which is also a different thing [15:06] ali1234: Oh, it does conveniently have the value 0 :-) [15:06] yes but it won't be accepted by the format string parser [15:07] it will just be passed through verbatim [15:07] one way to make the script work is by just putting $number [15:07] but $attr{number} is supposed to work according to the documentation [15:09] now is it the docs or the code that's wrong? [15:10] that's what i'm trying to figure out [15:11] I suggested the ATTR{number} because that's the format udevadm info prints it in [15:12] $attr does something different [15:12] are you sure? the stuff from udevadm looks like the sysfs files of the same name [15:12] yes it is [15:13] that's where it comes from [15:13] try it if you don't believe me (i already have) [15:13] no, I'm fine to let you find the potholes [15:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6739002/ <- put that in /etc/udev/rules.d/99-test.rules [15:14] then sudo udevadm control --reload-rules [15:14] then udevadm test --action=add /class/sound/controlC0 [15:17] ali1234: Is the problem here that you're doing it on controlC0 rather than the card0? There is no number file in /sys/class/sound/card0/controlC0/ but there is in /sys/class/sound/card0 ? [15:18] so it's right, there is no number attribute on controlC0 [15:19] and $attr only says to use an entry from a parent device if a previous KERNELS/SUBSYSTEMS/DRIVERS/ATTRS tests selected a parent [15:52] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-Is-More-Secure-Than-Windows-8-and-Mac-OS-X-Says-UK-Goverment-416016.shtml [15:54] http://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/UK-Gov-Report-Summary.pdf [15:57] it's that time again! :D [15:58] MS license price negotiation time? [15:59] Latest release: Release4 (2014-01-08u1) (released 2014-01-12) [16:00] i should probably sleep more... [16:00] magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5be21a7a4f4b919e13f65eef113a8bc97e037ad0&dn=yeoldesteamos-release4-20140108u1.iso&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce [16:04] got a normal torrent url pls? [16:06] http://retro.apebox.org/yeoldesteamos-release4-20140108u1.iso.torrent [16:06] ta [16:10] odd, not downloading anything here [16:10] magnet is in transmission though [16:10] ah, magnet on laptop can see my vps tho [16:11] thats better, chugging along now [16:11] I see popey.com on mine :p [16:11] does yours resolve ip to host or did you look it up? [16:12] it resolves [16:12] neat [16:12] transmission doesn't resolve here [16:12] i see deluge, 2xtransmission, and one generic libtorrent [16:13] i have 1xtransmission and 2xrtorrent [16:13] I'm using https://code.google.com/p/transmisson-remote-gui/ because it's running on a box elsewhere [16:13] (mine) [16:14] * popey leaves it running while going to make cottage pie i think [16:33] i got up to 60 ratio on the last one [16:34] yeah, same here, was peak/troughy, but quite popular [16:36] another slow torrents day. thanks, bt [16:43] * daftykins jumps on the torrent [16:46] hmm looks like you announced it a bit sooner this time, tonnes on it already? :D [16:47] i'm at ratio 1 and i've only downloaded 25% of it [16:47] yeah it's ground to a halt ~the 27% mark [16:48] what we torrenting? [16:48] latest steamos again from directhex [16:48] let me see what i can do [16:49] hmm, should I plop a torrentbox up somewhere to helpout? [16:49] its bottlenecked on directhex upstream atm [16:49] yeah [16:49] yeah [16:49] :/ [16:50] any risc os users here? [16:51] not for about ooh 15 years [16:51] lol, that's cute; 'someone' shows up as Guernsey, but it has no idea what flag to assign to them [16:52] lol [16:54] i heard risc os is now open source [16:54] shauno: :D [16:54] shauno: do i have an addy or just IP? [16:54] assuming your client resolves [16:54] a name, bbdhome2-blahblahblah [16:55] it just looks a tad silly in the UI because everyone else has flags [16:56] fancy not having the Guernsey flag =| [16:56] lol, nice: http://retro.apebox.org/index.php?section=six&rant=irc.rant <-- I been nosey [16:56] i am insulted! [16:57] file a bug ☻ [16:57] does guernsey even have a flag? [16:57] * popey mashes spuds [16:57] I mean there's like three people there, what are the chances one of you has a spare rag? :-p [16:57] [16:59] interesting, I can't checkout svn on this 3g connection. it doesn't make it through o2-ie's mangler [16:59] ok someone else on BT just connected, 1.12MB up now [16:59] diddledan: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Flag_of_Guernsey.svg [17:00] yeah, but that's wiki. [17:00] and it looks decidedly like dicky the lion heart's shield [17:06] http://popey.com/bandwidth/ [17:06] click "days" and spot where directhex releases yeoldesteamos [17:07] well boo. there's nothing in the zip of flags to say where they got it from [17:09] if it makes you feel better, comcast via ipv6 isn't getting a flag either. so not only are you not alone, but you might be the future [17:10] :D [17:10] yeah i've spotted the IPv6-ers get nothing [17:12] woohoo complete [17:14] :( the list got really boring now [17:15] I'm not sure there's any solution for this, but I find it interesting that the ipv6 client appears to be connected by both 4+6, and is being served as two separate peers [17:33] how funky [17:33] how did you spot the v6 matching the v4s? [17:37] two customers on the same ISP with the same % complete, just looks suss [17:38] customers, clients, peers, whatever. I've been at work since 6am :( [17:40] penguin42: i'm trying to remember an archimedes adventure game that starts with you being guarded in a train carriage...know it? [17:41] foobarry: No, I didn't play much games on the Arch [17:41] foobarry: text adventure? [17:42] yeah ali1234 [17:42] was it an infocom one? [17:43] was it corruption? [17:43] i was just looking at the corruption wiki [17:43] from memory i'm thinking it might be. [17:43] how did you get out of the carriage? [17:43] ask for the toilet? [17:44] i dunno? [17:44] i'm just googling [17:44] http://www.lemonamiga.com/?game_id=1557 [17:44] maybe corruption came out at similar time [17:44] did it have graphics like that? [17:45] not corruption [17:45] first scene is you in a train carriage [17:47] http://msmemorial.if-legends.org/games.htm/jinxter.php [17:47] mentions something about a train [17:51] hmmm doesn't seem to be the one from my memory, [17:51] it was certainly an earlier arch game , trawling through the mag scrolls ones [17:52] directhex: just nabbed your latest torrent. I am currently seeding beta1 & beta2. What should I drop (if any)? [17:52] beta1 got to a ratio of 0.4. beta2 got to 30.1 :) [17:53] bigcalm, drop everything that isn't release 4 [17:53] (i've simplified the version numbering now, too) [17:53] Okay [17:55] shauno: weekend work O_O [17:55] it's not that bad [17:56] I had thursday/friday off, will have monday/tuesday off, and enjoy two shifts with no adult supervision [17:56] \o/ [17:58] eg; the most I've done in the last 2 hours, is try to figure out why this client has no gg.png [17:59] :D [17:59] can i have a job? [18:18] wheee 5MB/s [18:18] :) [18:49] haha, my brothers latest toy is a quadracopter [18:49] the views of Guernsey are quite nice in this one [18:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcHqoiV-Z8c [18:50] That's incredibly steady [18:50] No wind I'm guessing [18:51] it was pretty good yesterday [18:51] Sounds like a herd of strimmers [18:52] whih one is it? [18:53] It appears to be in the 'gaming' category, bit odd [18:54] yeah i thought that [18:55] Is it a live feed back to the controls, or is it only available once downloaded? [18:55] I want one now [18:55] i was given the vid link and that's all i know unfortunately [18:55] lol [18:56] Pfft [18:59] i suspect it was just a goPro attached [19:01] Time to do my duty and be in the sitting room while Dancing on Ice is on. Hooray for laptop and headphones! [19:01] hahaha [19:01] unlucky [19:02] It's nice to spend time together, even if we're doing different things [19:02] =] [19:02] Today's big outing was to Dreams [19:02] anything but that :'( [19:02] did you fall asleep? [19:03] Spent over 1.2K on a new mattress :S [19:03] ouch [19:03] wat [19:03] u mad bro [19:03] Yus [19:03] by eck that's alotta dough [19:03] I'm looking forward to sleeping well once more [19:03] i should coco for that amount [19:03] hmm, I can see how that can happen; I spent about 700 on one probably near 7 years ago - and that was a custom size but only a bit over single [19:03] I'd expect to never wake up [19:03] bigcalm: Temper ? [19:04] I think it was something like 1.1K for the mattress and then extra for the delivery and wotnot [19:04] (tempor?) [19:04] penguin42: amazingly no. We didn't find the Temper as comfortable [19:04] bigcalm: Was it a clone of a temper or a more normal one? [19:04] silentnight? [19:05] penguin42: more normal one. I should go and find the receipt [19:05]