[04:47] <InHisName1> any Pidgin users here ?   I want to increase the depth of how old things get before they fall off the retention. #cisco is less than 24 hours deep.  Want at least 36 - 48, if I can change it.
[05:33] <ChinnoDog> KyleYankan: Where are you located? And, are there repeater networks we can both reach?
[10:56] <rmg51> Morning
[11:07] <lazypower> Morning rmg51
[13:30] <ChinnoDog> Morning
[13:30] <jedijf> morning
[13:32] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: congrats and you got general too!
[13:32] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: look for w3wan in your area - should have a repeater - it's allstar system
[13:34] <jedijf> http://www.wanrepeater.com/
[13:34] <jedijf> i talk to one of the core members usually every morning from 5-6am tim
[13:38] <jedijf> http://wanrepeater.net/WAN_Repeater_System.php
[14:33] <ChinnoDog> There is one in DC
[14:37] <sadin> morning all
[14:37] <sadin> long time no irc :D
[14:37] <ChinnoDog> I get nothing on 2m from DC and get blips of static from 70cm.
[14:37] <ChinnoDog> hi sadin
[14:38] <sadin> Im stuck in bed ChinnoDog got my wisdom teeth out
[14:39] <ChinnoDog> I am 15 floors up. I should be able to receive a lot.
[14:44] <KyleYankan> ChinnoDog: what radio are you using?
[14:44] <ChinnoDog> Baofeng UV-5R Plus
[14:45] <KyleYankan> Your building might be the problem. Concrete, steel, etc. Try taking a walk?
[14:46] <ChinnoDog> I was on the porch yesterday trying to get a different signal
[14:46] <ChinnoDog> I could go to the roof.
[14:46] <ChinnoDog> I heard CW on the 70cm station a few minutes ago.
[14:46] <KyleYankan> Which 70cm station? A lot of repeaters and some users use it to identify their call.
[14:47] <ChinnoDog> I don't hear any beacons on it. 447.675 in DC
[14:47] <ChinnoDog> wanrepeater.net says call is K3WS
[14:47] <KyleYankan> beacons?
[14:48] <KyleYankan> I mean, the CW counts as a beacon AFAIK
[14:48] <KyleYankan> Although many also use a voice announcement as well
[14:48] <ChinnoDog> I thought that repeaters have an automated message to repeat their call sign.
[14:48] <ChinnoDog> So.. the CW could have been it? I can't understand morse yet. :-p
[14:48] <KyleYankan> yep.
[14:49] <ChinnoDog> oh. Well there was actual reception
[14:49] <ChinnoDog> I am still in my apartment
[14:50] <ChinnoDog> If I knew my call sign I would send a test.
[14:51] <KyleYankan> Yeah, you definately don't want to transmit until then.
[14:51] <KyleYankan> Some repeaters( 50/50 in my area) will play a confirm tone when you tx to them.
[14:51] <KyleYankan> As in You key up "K3YLE mobile listening in"
[14:51] <ChinnoDog> I just wanted to listen in to people so I could get a better idea what I should sound like.
[14:51] <KyleYankan> and a second lat erhe repeater goes: "*Beep*" and sometimes identifies then
[14:52] <KyleYankan> w3wan has a broadcastify link
[14:52] <KyleYankan> or tune a few repeaters into the baofegna nd scan
[14:52] <KyleYankan> but first, forgive my typing
[14:53] <JonathanD> no
[14:53] <KyleYankan> JonathanD: You're the worst. Go get your ham license.
[14:53] <KyleYankan> and/or upgrade my linode
[14:53] <KyleYankan> either or.
[14:53] <JonathanD> lol
[14:56] <ChinnoDog> hmm
[14:57] <ChinnoDog> I will need to make a list of nearby repeaters.
[14:57] <KyleYankan> theres websies
[14:57] <KyleYankan> repeaterbook comes to mind
[14:57] <ChinnoDog> Is that the best way? And do they have /all/ of them?
[14:59] <KyleYankan> AFAIk
[14:59] <KyleYankan> and its what I use.
[14:59] <KyleYankan> in fact, Chirp can pull right from it
[14:59] <KyleYankan> if you have a programming cable
[15:02] <JonathanD> we can all leave freenode, start hamnode
[15:03] <KyleYankan> less netsplits
[15:03] <JonathanD> more Id argue.
[15:03] <JonathanD> at least ircds dont sleep
[15:06] <ChinnoDog> I have a cable and installed Chirp, have not used it for programming yet.
[17:27] <ChinnoDog> This is complicated. lol
[17:27] <ChinnoDog> Where does Chirp show the firmware version??
[17:32] <ChinnoDog> I guess it doesn't for this radio.
[19:27] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: chirp works
[19:27] <jedijf> and wan activity now
[19:27] <jedijf> if your listening i'll key up - i'm on web transceiver
[19:28] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: ping me when you're listening
[19:28] <jedijf> i want to try web transceiver now
[22:51] <ChinnoDog> Not yet. I am gathering local repeaters for my radio.
[22:52] <ChinnoDog> Q: Why do nearly all the repeaters have a 88.5hz tone squelch? I see that in Chrip. How am I even supposed to know to set that?
[22:54] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: ctss is the one that matters - like 3kz is mostly 131.8
[22:55] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: repeater networks are the way to go - like w3wan if it's in your area - then within the region you can stay 'connected' as they are linked
[22:55] <jedijf> linked repeater networks
[22:57] <jedijf> and practice manual entry with your baofeng - there will be a time when you need it - while i waited for my callsign to hit the database, i listened and got to know my baofeng
[22:57] <ChinnoDog> I already screwed around with that it a bit. That was confusing.
[22:57] <ChinnoDog> I need a manual for my radio. I can't find one online and it didn't come in the box.
[22:58] <jedijf> frequency mode - only the a - menu 11 - 13 -27 then freq of offset - menu 27 again
[22:58] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: the niklor site - best stuff
[22:58] <jedijf> miklor
[22:58] <ChinnoDog> Oh wait. There is a manual I used that was in the box. It has more info than I thought.
[22:58] <ChinnoDog> I didn't understand the info in it before but since reading stuff online now I do.
[22:59] <jedijf> http://miklor.com/
[22:59] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: the manual has been re-written - use the miklor site - look for newest for your rig
[22:59] <KyleYankan> I just use chirp. I get too annoyed with the menu
[23:00] <jedijf> http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/   <<<has *all* the answers
[23:01] <ChinnoDog> It is a uv-5r+. The "*" is the problem.
[23:03] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: Why do they all use DTCS Code 23?
[23:03] <ChinnoDog> And, why do they use 23 receive DTCS? I thought that the repeater usually removed the tone when it broadcasts.
[23:04] <jedijf> you need to hear the tone so you know when the transmit is done - wait - then key up so everyone doesn't step on each other
[23:05] <jedijf> just set frq - ctss (both) save - then offset freq and save again -
[23:05] <jedijf> that's manual ^^^
[23:06] <jedijf> only the a band in freq mode
[23:06] <ChinnoDog> I thought the repeater broadcasts without the tone though
[23:06] <jedijf> that's the save band (not b)
[23:06] <jedijf> they say that - but they don't
[23:06] <ChinnoDog> i.e. If I get a direct communication the tone will be there. If it comes through repeater then no tone.
[23:06] <ChinnoDog> oh
[23:06] <jedijf> you won't hear until you set - that's old info
[23:07] <ChinnoDog> Now I am extra confused. Why won't I hear until I set it?
[23:07] <ChinnoDog> I thought that if I disable the tone I hear all chatter.
[23:07] <ChinnoDog> meaning the receive tone
[23:07] <jedijf> that was test stuff - real life - if you are setting the channel - when you put in the ctcss - bam - you will hear if there is a transmit
[23:08] <jedijf> maybe that's why your area is dead
[23:08] <jedijf> lol
[23:08] <ChinnoDog> Probably!
[23:08] <jedijf> put in the ctcss'
[23:08] <ChinnoDog> operator error.
[23:08] <ChinnoDog> Why do I need it on to receive??
[23:09] <jedijf> nah, i thought the same thing - that's why, get all this out the way while you wait for callsign to drop
[23:09] <jedijf> to hear
[23:09] <jedijf> you'll see - nike
[23:09] <jedijf> just f'in do it
[23:10] <jedijf> hold on i'll link you one of my chirp csv's
[23:17] <jedijf> i pulled that original file from the repeaterbook chirp feature iirc
[23:23] <ChinnoDog> I just programmed a bunch of stations in
[23:23] <ChinnoDog> Pretty much every 2m and 70cm station within 8-9 mi
[23:32] <jedijf> you'll see, some may have great coverage - the w3wan repeater in philly covers an amazing amount of ground
[23:34] <KyleYankan> it's pretty decent.
[23:35] <jedijf> KyleYankan: and it's 100 feet lower than another repeater, but gets out further - heard some tower talk the other day
[23:36] <KyleYankan> Better antenna / more power?
[23:36] <jedijf> yeah aa3e is 100 ft higher - don't know - they were just ragchewing - could just be a propagation thing
[23:36] <jedijf> like how n3kz philly has weird coverage
[23:37] <jedijf> but dstar aa3e kicks butt
[23:38] <jedijf> n3kz covers well south and west - not so much north and east - it's physically at u of p - i hit kop from home, can't hit philly
[23:39] <jedijf> w3wan is in roxborough - tower central for the philly area
[23:40] <jedijf> ok time to gamble - in ac for the weekend
[23:40] <jedijf> almost bedtime
[23:42] <KyleYankan> Seeya jedijf. I'm packing up to head home