[00:00] <GeeWizz> Are you her? Not at all crazy. Just trying to gibe a heads up. Thought you might appreciate that. That's all.
[00:00] <catalase_> !ppa
[00:00] <catalase_> !addppa
[00:00] <catalase_> !sru
[00:00] <mrpizzaface> I was wondering if anybody here could help me install UBUNTU 12.04 LTS on a 32 GB Flash Drive from  windows "not the live CD the ful Ubuntu installation"
[00:00] <catalase_> !backports
[00:00] <MonkeyDust> catalase_  use /msg ubottu if you want to read a lot of factoids
[00:00] <catalase_> ok sry
[00:00] <catalase_> thx u
[00:00] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: Screenshot http://snag.gy/0ZYEX.jpg  Notice the SWAP column... the first process has 1.1G swapped out.
[00:01] <catalase_> MonkeyDust, i believe that apache 2.4.7 provides substantial benefit over 2.2.22
[00:01] <GeeWizz> Helping the community. Thats what I do.
[00:02] <catalase_> does Ubuntu believe that 2.4.7 is unstable and provides no substantial benefit?
[00:02] <catalase_> i think they are mistaken
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> catalase_  dunno, I don't use it
[00:03] <spearhead> catalase_, it probably just came out too late to be included... they might be including it in 14.04 but I'm not sure...
[00:03] <mrpizzaface> I was wondering if anybody here could help me install UBUNTU 12.04 LTS on a 32 GB Flash Drive from  windows "not the live CD the ful Ubuntu installation"
[00:03] <apb1963> mrpizzaface: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:04] <catalase_> spearhead, when do you think they will release 14.04?
[00:04] <MonkeyDust> catalase_  april
[00:04] <k1l_> catalase_: as its said in the name: april 2014
[00:04] <daftykins> mrpizzaface: grab universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com as apb1963 suggests
[00:04] <mrpizzaface> apb1963: ill check it out
[00:04] <catalase_> k1l_, oh i did not know this
[00:05] <spearhead> catalase_, the ubuntu release numbers are the year released and the month
[00:05] <HisaoNakai> daftykins: Hey, tis, contrapunctus from a sec ago. Turned out I had photorec running alongside, causing gparted to fail 8|
[00:05] <rww> i wish release numbers were 14/04 or something instead
[00:05] <spearhead> and they always release a new one every 6 months
[00:05] <HisaoNakai> daftykins: (or that's what I think it was, for when I closed it, gparted worked after that)
[00:05] <daftykins> HisaoNakai: ah ok :)
[00:05] <spearhead> catalase_, thus 13.04, 13.10, 14.04
[00:05] <catalase_> i see
[00:05] <catalase_> do you think i can manually upgrade to 2.4.7 apache?
[00:06] <catalase_> or would u advise against it
[00:06] <SchrodingersScat> catalase_: I believe in you.
[00:06] <catalase_> i believe in me to, SchrodingersScat
[00:06] <MonkeyDust> catalase_  ubottu told you how, but that it is at your own risk
[00:06] <mrpizzaface> apb1963: so when i install the ubuntu installation to the USB will it be the live CD or the Full install where it will save me files ect. ect.
[00:06] <GeeWizz> Best be careful who you "believe" in.
[00:06] <catalase_> MonkeyDust, adding a ppa?
[00:07] <apb1963> mrpizzaface: Pretty sure it's the full install.. but I'd have to read the web page to be sure.
[00:08] <GeeWizz> Smelling bacon? Uh oh. Better trust your nose!
[00:08] <dudey1> hey folks. I've been trying to set up an IM server to message people  within my LAN so I can securely talk to other in the house.. so I use this guide ( http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-setup-im-voip-server-using-openfire-ubuntu-1204 ) cause it seems to get me closer (more close then the openfire read me file) to having the service then anything else. But when I get down to the dpkg command , it says it can't find the program even though I change directo
[00:08] <k1l_> GeeWizz: please stick to ubuntu support in here
[00:08] <mrpizzaface> apb1963: ill get back to you on that im installing :P damn windows ya  know ? hold all of us down :(
[00:08] <GeeWizz> Oh this is support.
[00:08] <dudey1> yes GeeWizz, if someone's trying to get you to buy drugs without knowing you, it's probably a cop fishing for his dinner
[00:09] <k1l_> !ot | GeeWizz dudey1
[00:09] <catalase_> !packaging
[00:09] <FireStorms> What's the IRC channel for Linux Mint?
[00:09] <GeeWizz> Okkk don't say i didnt warn ya!
[00:09] <Pessimist> !linuxmint
[00:10] <FireStorms> GeertJohan, thank you :]
[00:11] <GeeWizz> XD
[00:11] <skorpio> hi, i have tried to change my computername but changed /etc/hostname before /etc/hosts
[00:11] <skorpio> now gedit wont function anymore using sudo
[00:11] <skorpio> what can i do?
[00:12] <GeeWizz> Jenna Stafon. Actually.
[00:12] <GeeWizz> If irc.
[00:12] <Pessimist> Why would you need to edit /etc/hosts, skorpio ?
[00:12] <GeeWizz> Beeeeee careffullll
[00:12] <MonkeyDust>  GeeWizz stop
[00:12] <daftykins> skorpio: you'll have to boot a liveCD/USB then edit it from there, or hold left shift at boot and go into recovery mode
[00:12] <DrGrov> Ben64: Thanks for the kind help last night, got it thanks to your kind advices on how to fix /home right :) Big thank you from the bottom of my heart.
[00:13] <skorpio> thanks , daftykins
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: swap isnt swap space at all. swap = res + virt. virt includes the size of process's executable binary, the data area and all the loaded shared libraries. the same shared lib will get counted for every process that uses it. so counting the cumulative value is not reliable
[00:21] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: so you're saying that, that SWAP column is meaningless in terms of calculating swap space used/needed?
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: exactly
[00:22] <Raven> Hi, how can I rename devices plugged in to my machine? For instance, I want to rename a webcam.
[00:24] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO:  ok but it's saying that ONE process is using 1.1G ... so the fact that other processes are counting the same files is not important at the moment.   1.1G still a valid number in terms of swap spaced used, for that one process.  Yes?
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: but its not swap. it include all memory. its just a badly labeled column
[00:26] <NictraSavios_> I'm not sure if this query belongs here or Ubuntu+1, but since this question affects multiple distrobutions I think its very "general". My question is: Can the 14.04 daily be considered "reliable" (not stable, I know that awnser). Basically, is my system one day going to be comepletely broken and unusable, or will it just be bugs here and there? Which should I use if I have a hybrid gpu, 13.10 or 14.04?
[00:26] <linguini> I have an ubuntu guest that occasionally fails to reboot.  I want to see messages from the kernel when it is rebooting rather than fancy splash screens so I can look for clues.  How can I do this?
[00:27] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: then it's also badly documented.  The man page states "
[00:27] <apb1963> SWAP  --  Swapped size (kb)
[00:27] <apb1963>           Memory  that is not resident but is present in a task.  This is memory that has been swapped out
[00:27] <apb1963>           but could include additional non-resident memory.  This  column  is  calculated  by  subtracting
[00:27] <apb1963>           physical memory from virtual memory.
[00:27] <FloodBot1> apb1963: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <apb1963> sorry floodbot, my bad.
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: my apologies. its virt - res. but the key here is to look at what virt is too.
[00:30] <NictraSavios_> P.S. If my question does belong in ubuntu+1, let me know please :).
[00:30] <jeffry> ccan somone help me with my head set and kubuntu desktop  tey dont seem to work together
[00:31] <k1l_> NictraSavios_: if you need to ask about that, i would not suggest you use development releases.
[00:31] <mrpizzaface> i have a question if i start a VM running the Ubuntu live CD can i install from the live CD to a USB flashdrive
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: virt: It includes all code, data and shared libraries plus pages that have been swapped out and pages that have been mapped but not used.                        So it includes data thats neither resident in ram or swap. So its data that has yet to be loaded
[00:32] <k1l_> NictraSavios_: they are quite gut theese days, but there is always the chance that something will make the system not boot at all. i suggest you stick to 13.10 so far
[00:33] <NictraSavios_> k1l_, Heh, well its not exactly an obvious question. At least, I don't think so. Stability is obviously gone with a daily, but the impact on my daily work is not so obvious, since as you said, they are mostly trivial these days. But, alright, thank you!
[00:34] <k1l_> NictraSavios_: according to murphy the heavy bugs come in when you really need a running system :) in the end its your choice
[00:35] <NictraSavios_> k1l_, Haha, true! I guess as the releases get more tame I get more a sense of security with betas.
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: sorry, it includes the shared libs + data thats not yet loaded.                   hence the presumed bloat.
[00:39] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: that's also confusing...  SWAP column is code+allocated data area+shared libs+swapped out pages?
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: +data that could potentially be loaded
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: -actual ram used
[00:41] <Gallomimia> hi is kernel 3.12 in the official release now?
[00:42] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: isn't that covered by "allocated data area" ?  It can't know what data hasn't been loaded, unless it knows what data hasn't been loaded... a bit of a catch 22... so it would have to be pre-allocated by the program... i.e. static data areas within the program, used or not.
[00:43] <Gallomimia> must be. autoremove is taking out kernel 3.11
[00:43] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: Bottom line, it makes my head hurt and I don't think it's a useful number at this point.
[00:44] <xangua> !info linux | Gallomimia
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: allocated data would be data that is loaded into mem. If you "open" a file on the drive, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to get loaded into memory, but it still needs to be addressed. that addressing space gets included in virt
[00:45] <Gallomimia> huh... odd.
[00:46] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: right. that's what i'm saying
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: yeah. so its a number you can typically ignore
[00:46] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: anyway, as you already stated... SWAP is not swap.  :)
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> yup
[00:47] <apb1963> gotta love it
[00:47] <apb1963> thanks again
[00:55] <poleslav> Hello everyone, i dont know if anyone here remembers me, but I'm having graphics problems,when i click and drag the selection pops up in slow motion basically, i just did a fresh install of either 13.04 or 13.10, not sure which was on the flash drive. When i was in the install screen it wasnt in slow-mo but after booting from the disk it was
[00:57] <smacktalk> how do I move a process to the background
[00:58] <lickalott> add an & to the end of the commad line
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> smacktalk: or with some running apps: ctrl + z
[01:00] <jgcampbell300> is there a way to get more than 254 ip addresses on my network
[01:00] <MonkeyDust> smacktalk  if you used ctrl-z, then use 'jobs' to show them and fg [number] to bring it to front
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> jgcampbell300: use a larger subnet. like the 10.0.0.0 network
[01:03] <Guest87457> Olá
[01:04] <poleslav> Before i logged in even then everything worked smoothly, but once i logged in the menus went back to being slow-mo basically
[01:04] <poleslav> Anyone have any suggestions
[01:04] <WhyAskWhy> Ubuntu Is a Bunch OF FAGGOT ASS STUCK UP BITCHES
[01:05] <jgcampbell300> hitsujiTMO, thats what i was just reading on ... do you have a link to some good info i could read up on ?
[01:06] <richi_> Hi. How can i run test for disk errors before system start becouse i need to check my entire hdd?
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> jgcampbell300: i'm afraid its like 14 years since i covered that so don't really know any "recent" resources.
[01:07] <jgcampbell300> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> jgcampbell300: cisco's usually a good resource: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a00800a67f5.shtml
[01:11] <Oog> sometimes ssh login takes a really long time. trying to see why from logs but there is nothing in auth.log even after changing log level to verbose then debug3...?
[01:12] <richi_> thanks,,
[01:13] <zack_> hay can someone help me out
[01:13] <Euclidis> !purekubuntu
[01:13] <Euclidis> !purekde
[01:13] <zack_> hello
[01:14] <zack_> ubottu
[01:14] <jeffry> Just say what you need help with and somone can see if they can help you :)
[01:15] <zack_> well i need help geting minecraft for free
[01:15] <zack_> a little redictulios i know
[01:15] <daftykins> leave now and this will go painlessly
[01:15] <jeffry> Its posable but illegal in most cases
[01:16] <jeffry> So [please dont try
[01:16] <zack_> not nessalry
[01:16] <zack_> ive bin on youtube all day
[01:16] <jeffry> If you mean a free avvount ask your parents maby a friend
[01:16] <zack_> verry funny
[01:17] <jeffry> I'm not being funny
[01:17] <k1l_> zack_: no illegal advises in here.
[01:17] <zack_> i gust dont have a credit card
[01:17] <Oog> UseDNS was the problem
[01:17] <zack_> and its not illegal
[01:18] <zack_> im just bord out of my mind
[01:19] <zack_> i just need some advise
[01:19] <ahmad> morning guys i just wanna know how exactly do we modify linux? its an open source right?
[01:20] <jeffry> yes it is :)
[01:20] <ahmad> then how do we modify it?
[01:20] <ahmad> how can anybody made a distribution
[01:20] <jeffry> I'm not sure I never have
[01:21] <ahmad> i see
[01:21] <jeffry> Try youtube i have see videos on how to make them
[01:21] <ahmad> damn great idea
[01:21] <ahmad> ill check it out
[01:21] <ahmad> thanks
[01:21] <jeffry> Np :)
[01:22] <Oog> imagemagick identify: unrecognized list type `weight' - ideas? i need to use convert with caption and different font weight but cant
[01:22] <jeffry> ahmad,  oh and do you mean a free account or a cracked launcher cause cracked launchers don't abide by the mine craft TOS
[01:26] <AcidRain2013> when im editing menu items. how do i add an item that will run a python script. like if the script is script.pl. i want it to run that script in terminal like "script.py --help" and then stay in that directory
[01:27] <jeffrey_f> anyone ever install the full Java JDK?
[01:27] <xangua> !java | jeffrey_f
[01:29] <__think_agin> hello
[01:30] <__think_agin> ls
[01:36] <dominic__> ds;fkjd
[01:36] <dominic__> fdsf
[01:36] <dominic__> ads
[01:36] <dominic__> f
[01:36] <dominic__> dsf
[01:36] <FloodBot1> dominic__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <dominic__> df
[01:36] <soahccc> Hey guys. I have a fairly old notebook here. I tried 12.04 but it fails because the CPU doesn't support pae. According to a askubuntu thread I tried the netinstall but it fails with video mode error. Would I have better chances with an older version or rather less chances?
[01:36] <Aikar> anyone have any idea what could throttle my connection (ubuntu) to my server (ubuntu) on a complete system level, all protocols? It is IP based, as SFTP and HTTP both are throttled, but If I VPN I dont get throttled, and my speeds are fine to other servers
[01:36] <Aikar> and ive freshly reinstalled ubuntu, and every system on my network is throttled to my server
[01:40] <Vivekananda> I have used axel quite often but a lot of the times some sites say unable to connect. what does that mean ?
[01:46] <bluetech> Anyone here know of a way to have a slideshow background on more then one monitor (3 total)? With different wallpapers for each monitor.
[01:46] <cvtsx> can someone help me with puttygen via terminal please
[01:47] <bluetech> nitrogen and variety can only slideshow the same image on all the monitors
[01:48] <bluetech> well nitrogen can change diff wallpapers on each but does not have a slideshow feature
[01:49] <cvtsx> How can a load a .pem in puttygen via terminal?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> soahccc: There are other version of 'buntu that support non pae. I beieve lubuntu is in that catagory, also there are ways to implement "fake pae", Then again it takes some hosses to run the flagship editions of ubuntu, which is where Lubuntu shines !
[01:58] <jgcampbell300> so ... im trying to figgure out if i have this right ... if i build a network of 255.255.255.0 .. and put printers on 10.10.1.0 desktops on 10.10.2.0 laptops on 10.10.3.0 servers on 10.10.4.0 etc ... i would have to setup vlans for each range to speak to each other ?
[01:59] <jgcampbell300> or would i have to go with something like a subnet of 255.255.250.0
[02:07] <jacob_> Hello my JACK audio server will not start, anyway to fix? http://www.anony.ws/image/kWQP
[02:09] <Euclidis> all right. all right.
[02:11] <Klagid_> Making a new server :D
[02:11] <evilbit> hi all. I'm installing from ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso  and notice that auditd isn't among the packages. is there a way to get that package installed during the initial install?
[02:13] <pikaren> is anything more than 4gig of ram neccessary?
[02:13] <DrGrov> Hi, should I really turn on the firewall in Xubuntu or just leave it be?
[02:14] <Klagid_> Turn it on
[02:15] <soahccc> Bashing-om: I tried Lubuntu (13.10) and it complained about pae too
[02:16] <soahccc> Bashing-om: Oh no it was 12.10, my fault :)
[02:17] <bluetech> is it possible to add kde wallpaper features in ubuntu?
[02:18] <jeffrey_f> pikaren:  the more RAM, the merrier.  I barely use the first 1GB of RAM....However, if you run anything that could take more, you will start seeing slowing as the system scratches to swap
[02:22] <Euclidis> bluetech: I don't think so. What exactly?
[02:22] <bluetech> the ability to have wallpapers change on multiple monitors automatically
[02:22] <bluetech> kde can do this
[02:26] <Euclidis> bluetech: You can install any software able to slideshow.
[02:26] <DrGrov> How do I change permission for VLC skins I have sudo copied to /usr/share/vlc/skins2?
[02:27] <DrGrov> The others I sudo copied there worked but not the 2nd part I copied a bit after.
[02:27] <bluetech> that is true but they each can only enable the same wallpaper per monitor
[02:27] <bluetech> i have 3 monitors
[02:27] <pero> i'm trying to install gdk-pixbuf but am getting a package not found in apt-get - what obvious thing am i missing? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdk-pixbuf
[02:28] <impossible> how do i check what graphics drivers i have nstalle
[02:29] <OerHeks> !find gdk-pixbuf
[02:29] <OerHeks> impossible, open terminal: lspci | grep -i VGA
[02:31] <impossible> hm
[02:31] <impossible> OerHeks, thanks.
[02:32] <Euclidis> bluetech: You could try sinchronize monitors?
[02:33] <bluetech> i am not familar with that
[02:33] <bluetech> i search google and the software center
[02:33] <pero> how do i install lib32-gtk2 on 64bit ubuntu?
[02:34] <jeffry> Guy is there a way i can convert a java exe file into a jar
[02:36] <Euclidis> bluetech: Neither do I am.
[02:40] <Euclidis> OerHeks: I'm running 13.04 and would like upgrade to 13.10, but, doesn't works even I had check the 'any new version' on software updater.. Can you... ?
[02:41] <lonnie> msg ubottu !dvd
[02:42] <OerHeks> Euclidis, that should be the right setting, idk
[02:43] <Euclidis> OerHeks: What you mean with 'idk'?
[02:44] <Euclidis> Oh... I Don't Know...
[02:44] <OerHeks> idk idont know ( what could be wrong)
[02:44] <OerHeks> support ends somewhere this month
[02:45] <Euclidis> Yes. I know...
[02:45] <Euclidis> It is why I am concerned..
[02:55] <TYDIRocks> I'm installing Ubuntu 13.10 on my external HDD. I'm currently on the last screen where I choose my name and password. I pressed continue and it's been stuck at that screen for the past 5 mins, should I quit the installation and restart it?
[02:56] <TYDIRocks> The HDD is brand new so it hasn't been formatted/partitioned before if that helps
[02:58] <jeffrey_f> TYDIRocks: Is it formatting???  (disk light?)
[02:58] <TYDIRocks> jeffrey_f: the light is flashing
[02:59] <yaverot> running 12.10 in a VM, need to add a dns server as first choice; all access via ssh.
[02:59] <jeffrey_f> TYDIRocks: Let it go. If the disk is large, it can be a while
[02:59] <TYDIRocks> jeffrey_f: alright thanks. It usually doesn't go to the installation progress screen till it's done formatting?
[03:09] <KittyKittenKat> hallo
[03:09] <sky3184> hey
[03:18] <terrence> cant manage to connect to ps3 for media streaming
[03:25] <n2i> Hi all! Should I use BtrFS or ZFS for ~ 200G partition which is used to store data?
[03:26] <Crabflesh> hello
[03:36] <Rarrikins> Are there any Intel integrated video proprietary drivers?
[03:37] <rww> no
[03:37] <Rarrikins> OK, thanks.
[03:41] <Bashing-om> soahccc: Sorry I got carried away to other things, See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[03:43] <PKKid2> OK this is very weird and I don't know whats going on. -- It seems my PC is reverting state every time I reboot.  I'll update a few packages in apt and after reboot it appears they never installed.  I was also trying to install cinnamon, and after i install and reboot, apt thinks it was never installed.  The dropbox app keeps re-downloading the same 5 files every time I reboot.
[03:44] <BadBoY__> i just bought a new system having amd a10 and preinstalled with dos, i want to use ubuntu server for the system, where should i look for. It does not have partitions done and i need to do it from the very scratch. please help
[03:45] <grahamsavage> hey for really large screens (i.e. 35"+) is there any way of having artificial regions?
[03:45] <grahamsavage> i.e. for locking windows too etc.. kinda like having multiple monitors except on the one screen
[03:48] <PKKid2> OMG this is insane! -- I just wrote a file to my home directory "imhere.txt" and reboot and now its gone.  My PC is definetly reverting state to some weird state on every reboot
[03:48] <PKKid2> installed software goes missing, dropbox keep redownloading everything
[03:49] <centrx> Is this your computer?
[03:49] <PKKid2> yes
[03:49] <PKKid2> im on it now
[03:49] <centrx> There is software that does that, but it is usually installed on purpose
[03:49] <PKKid2> Do you know the name of it?
[03:50] <DarthEaron> hey, i get a black screen that returns me to the login screen when i try to log in. i already checked my xauthority file and the ownership seem right. anything else i can try?
[03:51] <centrx> PKKid2, Windows System Restore?
[03:51] <centrx> PKKid2, It could be in the BIOS too. I do not know of Linux software that does that off the top of my head
[03:52] <PKKid2> Hmm, I havent done any Bios updates or anything of that nature
[03:52] <centrx> DarthEaron, Did you recently install/upgrade some new software?
[03:52] <vegntoruc> My USB WiFi adapter does not show up in the network manager but I can see it in lsusb
[03:52] <PKKid2> The only thing is I was trying to install cinnamon to see if it works
[03:52] <PKKid2> and upon reboot, its like it was never installed
[03:52] <DarthEaron> centrx: not anything i would think relavent... i did a sudo apt-get upgrade...
[03:53] <PKKid2> "Windows System Restore?" -- Are you sure this would be on Ubuntu!?
[03:53] <centrx> DarthEaron, You could try booting up in single-user mode/maintenance mode and look at the log files for X and so forth
[03:53] <centrx> PKKid2, It was a joke, I don't know Linux software that does that
[03:54] <centrx> PKKid2, I do know there is hardware that will do that. Like if you run a public kiosk that people might mess up, you just restart and it is back to normal
[03:54] <PKKid2> centrx, Sorry, missed the joke.. Not in a good mood when my computer is being stupid makes me miss the obvious. ;P
[03:54] <Rarrikins> PKKid2: Yeah, that's what you use if you install Linux and you want to go back to the last restore point.
[03:54] <DarthEaron> centrx: when i try to use hnome-shell i get an error sating failed to load session "gnome"
[03:55] <PKKid2> Rarrikins, I'm glad my problem is a joke to everyone. :(
[03:55] <DarthEaron> centrx: tried reinstalling gnome-shell and im about to do a reboot.
[03:56] <jeffrey_f> Remove .ICEauthority (rename).  go in through terminal session (CTL-ALT-F1).  Come back to login gui ALT-CTL-F7
[03:57] <PKKid2> I guess the next question is, how do I see everythign that was installed in the last week?
[03:57] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: Remove .ICEauthority (rename).  go in through terminal session (CTL-ALT-F1).  Come back to login gui ALT-CTL-F7.  It will be recreated on login
[03:57] <PKKid2> I know the date this started heppening because I have a programming project I was working on at the time
[03:57] <PKKid2> I can look at the timestam of those files
[03:58] <centrx> PKKid2, You could look in /var/cache/apt/archives and ls -lt
[03:58] <PKKid2> January 4th
[03:58] <DarthEaron> hey, just did reboot and nothing
[03:59] <centrx> PKKid2, That should have the download dates of the packages, assuming you did not install a package and version that was already downloaded
[03:59] <moopzoop> my display is 1024x600, sometimes i get settings windows that are larger than my screen, any recommendations on how i can see the parts of these windows that go off the screen?
[03:59] <PKKid2> there is a "partial" folder with Jan 4th on it
[03:59] <PKKid2> and nothing in it
[03:59] <thom_r> moopzoop, is your display resolution set to match your screen resolution?
[04:00] <moopzoop> yes
[04:00] <DarthEaron> it might be because of me installing the nvidia drivwers
[04:00] <Rarrikins> moopzoop: You can press alt-space, move, and move it around.
[04:00] <moopzoop> thanks, Rarrikins
[04:01] <Bashing-om> soahccc: Did you get my last (belated !) ?
[04:01] <DarthEaron> if i delete my xorg.conf, will it be regenerated?
[04:01] <Rarrikins> moopzoop: Remember the underlined letter for move. You can press that on the keyboard to select it when the Alt-space menu is hidden outside the screen.
[04:01] <reffcap> anhone know how to get to the linux mint irc
[04:01] <PKKid2> The last things installed in apt-get history is "remove stockfish"
[04:01] <moopzoop> alt-f7 works too
[04:01] <PKKid2> that has nothing to do with anything
[04:02] <Rarrikins> moopzoop: Oh, cool.
[04:02] <reffcap> ive been trying to figure out how to stream to twitch from ubuntu anyonw know how
[04:02] <PKKid2> I also installed gcolor2
[04:03] <PKKid2> I think I have to completly reinstall Ubuntu... :(
[04:04] <PKKid2> Maybe I'll go with Mint. :P
[04:04] <reffcap> linux mint is goo i have zorin os ultimate if you want it PKKid2
[04:04] <PKKid2> reffcap, I have no clue what zorin os ultimate is
[04:05] <centrx> It sure sounds awesome though
[04:05] <PKKid2> lol
[04:05] <OerHeks> mint and zorin are not supported here so be carefull.
[04:05] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: Remove .ICEauthority (rename).  go in through terminal session (CTL-ALT-F1).  Come back to login gui ALT-CTL-F7.  It will be recreated on login
[04:05] <reffcap> its really good
[04:06] <Unforgiven> when you have problem in mint and zorin, dont say your distro, just state the problem in here, theyre likely very similar
[04:06] <reffcap> im not going to post videos about it im just handing out options to linux
[04:06] <PKKid2> DerHeks, thats fine.  Ubuntu won't let me save any files anymore.. so its useless to me now anyways. :P
[04:07] <reffcap> pkkid did ubuntu not bring anything up when you logged in
[04:07] <OerHeks> PKKid2,  i blame cinamon, as you stated yourself earlier, it can wreck unity
[04:07] <reffcap> just your desktop background
[04:07] <PKKid2> reffcap, It just acts like I did nothing since Jan 4.  ALways reverts back to the state of Jan 4.
[04:08] <reffcap> you could either reinstall or get a new os
[04:08] <PKKid2> OerHeks, It was happening before today.  I noticed it first yesterday but didn't think anything of it.  Today I confirmed it was just reverting state
[04:08] <reffcap> those are the quick ways
[04:08] <PKKid2> OerHeks, And I didn't try installing cinnamon until an hour ago
[04:09] <PKKid2> I know I've installed the same updates on this system about 8 times now..
[04:09] <PKKid2> they just keep reverting back to Jan 4th state.
[04:11] <reffcap> are you getting my IM PKKid2
[04:11] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: Did it work?
[04:14] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: sorry just came back to tty2, where is ICE authority located, i dont see it in homefolder
[04:15] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: im about to reboot, ill let you know how it went
[04:16] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: It is in your home folder /home/UserID/.ICEauthority
[04:18] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: it did not work...something i noticed in tty...i get a message saying something like plymouth not found...i cant get back to the message, tty scrooled to far
[04:19] <BadBoY__> i just bought a new system having amd a10 and preinstalled with dos, i want to use ubuntu server for the system, where should i look for. It does not have partitions done and i need to do it from the very scratch. please help
[04:19] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: does it let you stay in the terminal session?
[04:21] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: yeah, im in tty talking to you right now with irssi. your asking weather i can tty on this machine right?
[04:23] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: OK....Looks like a package problem.  Looking for something at the moment
[04:23] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to file a crash bug from a .crash file?
[04:23] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: thanks by the way, cant really google right now
[04:24] <jeffrey_f> ok...text only?
[04:25] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: yeah man im stuck on tty...no gui except a login screen. when i try to log in it gives me "failed to load session "gnome" "
[04:25] <n2i> Hi everyone! My CPU is Core i5 M520 with Intel® Hyper-Threading, what MAKEOPTS= should I use? '-j5' or '-j8'?
[04:25] <DarthEaron> thats with gnome-shell, when i try unity it just gives me a black screen and then returns to login screen
[04:26] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: i installed fluxbox and that works. so maybe i need to reinstall somehting?
[04:27] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: but i already did sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell and reinstalled it. maybe if i do autoremove after that?
[04:28] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop    Do not restart. This could effectively leave your system without GUI (which probably isn't an issue right now anyway)    then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop  and finally   sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:31] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: ill give this a try
[04:31] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron:  There are 4 commands there......was trying to keep IRC etiquette keeping to a single line, but it looks ugly
[04:32] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: this is weird, it saying neither is installed. dont see how that happened.
[04:32] <DarthEaron> but they show up in gui login screen....huh
[04:33] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: Could be the problem.  sumtin got borked!
[04:35] <DarthEaron> working on installing now. i may just break down and reinstall....i really need to make a new partition specifically for my home folder
[04:35] <SchrodingersScat> quite
[04:37] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron: Desktop or laptop?
[04:38] <DarthEaron> jeffrey_f: desktop...this may be related, but is just after i installed virtualbox and now that i got fluxbox to work, when i try to start the vm gui crashes back into login screen.
[04:38] <Kalel> Greetings..
[04:38] <Kalel> Can anyone have a look on my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6736540/
[04:39] <mr-techguy> Hello
[04:39] <mr-techguy> Atlanta
[04:39] <mr-techguy> I am from Atlanta
[04:39] <mr-techguy> question
[04:39] <cvtsx> can i upload files through putty?
[04:40] <SchrodingersScat> cvtsx: I think you normally use psftp or maybe they have a pscp or something.
[04:40] <mr-techguy> I am trying to use putty and SSH over to my laptop that next to me
[04:40] <mr-techguy> i can ping it
[04:40] <Gavinwu> @cvtsx please use filezilla
[04:40] <mr-techguy> but i can open putty
[04:41] <Kalel> Thank you.
[04:41] <mr-techguy> i keep getting access dined
[04:41] <cvtsx> So i can upload through filezilla?
[04:41] <Gavinwu> yes
[04:41] <SchrodingersScat> oh, right, filezilla should be able to sftp
[04:41] <pmitros> What's the right way to share files between Ubuntu machines these days? scp/sshfs is a bit too slow. I'd prefer not to open up too many security holes, however.
[04:42] <SchrodingersScat> Kalel: looks like those aren't all supposed to be installed at the same time?
[04:42] <cvtsx> Gavinwu: How?
[04:42] <pmitros> There's nfs, samba, and a million others. I'm wondering what the right one to use is.
[04:42] <SchrodingersScat> cvtsx: login to your server using filezilla with the ssh credentials you have.
[04:42] <Kalel> SchrodingersScat: I know, quantum-physics boy...
[04:42] <SchrodingersScat> pmitros: rsync
[04:43] <mr-techguy> hello can some on help me
[04:43] <qin> pmitros: ubuntu one? google drive? rsync? how sshfs is security hole?
[04:43] <cvtsx> ok, and what if i use a pem key?
[04:43] <cvtsx> will they accept that?
[04:43] <urataco> I was just going to say, the cloud
[04:43] <SchrodingersScat> qin: saying he doesn't want to open them.  Like by adding something silly like ftp.
[04:43] <pmitros> gin: scp is not a security hole. It's just slow. I'd like to do something fast, and as a file share.
[04:44] <cvtsx> just plugin for my mc server
[04:44] <pmitros> gin: The major upside of scp is security.
[04:44] <qin> SchrodingersScat: ftp is not a hole it is lack ;)
[04:44] <pmitros> rsync would presume I want complete sets of files both places. I really want to transfer individual files. File system mount is ideal.
[04:44] <SchrodingersScat> mr-techguy: double check the username/login you are using.
[04:44] <jeffrey_f> DarthEaron:  I'm walking away from my comp for a few, just let me know how it worked.
[04:45] <mr-techguy> when i login i put in my user name and it see it along with the ip
[04:46] <mr-techguy> but when I plug in the password it says access dined
[04:47] <mr-techguy> now let me ask what if I use the same password for both computer
[04:47] <mr-techguy> will that make a diff
[04:47] <pmitros> So at least of nfs vs. smb, is there a prefered one these days?
[04:47] <qin> mr-techguy: are you talking about ssh login?
[04:47] <mr-techguy> yes
[04:48] <mr-techguy> I use the same pass word for both computer s
[04:48] <mr-techguy> when i login
[04:48] <qin> mr-techguy: lets say A is server and B is client, so
[04:48] <mr-techguy> yes
[04:49] <qin> mr-techguy: from B: ssh user_of_A@A_server with pasword of A user
[04:50] <mr-techguy> I get it
[04:51] <Bashing-om> Kalel: How did you install the proprietary graphics driver ? maybe purge it and then (re-)install ? install method matters.
[04:52] <Solartemus> is there a list of reccomended phones for ubuntu-for-android?
[04:52] <qin> mr-techguy: and make sure to comb throught: man ssh; man sshd; man sshd_config; right whole thinky will work from A to B too, if you will install sshd on B, so you can tunnel yourself
[04:54] <qin> Solartemus: was ubuntu for android relased, or you mean Ubuntu Phone?
[04:55] <Solartemus> er is it not released yet?
[04:55] <Solartemus> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
[04:55] <Solartemus> this
[04:57] <qin> hm, next year I will edit it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
[04:58] <Solartemus> I see
[04:58] <mr-techguy> ok
[04:59] <Solartemus> qin, no eta?
[05:01] <Froodle> Can't get second monitor to work.  Works in Win7.  Using AMD CCC to set second monitor to "Multi-display desktop with display(s) 1" and then prompted to reboot.  Works at the login screen, but once the desktop loads, the second monitor goes back to "disabled."  Can anyone help me?
[05:02] <qin> Solartemus: I do not really know.
[05:03] <jeffrey_f> DathEaron: Anything??
[05:07] <Froodle> Never mind, I used the built-in Displays utility instead.  (Which didn't work before...)
[05:08] <pr0t> My wifi cuts out all the time on ubuntu, does anyone else have this problem?
[05:10] <rakesh> ubuntu not shutting down properly .can any1 help?
[05:10] <asdofindia> rakesh, what is happening when you press shut down?
[05:11] <rakesh> asdofindia:it jst gets hanged in the ubuntu(violet) screen
[05:12] <sassyapril> how to install less on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:12] <xangua> sassyapril: install less what¿
[05:12] <qin> sassyapril: what ubuntu are you running?
[05:12] <sassyapril> 12.04 lts
[05:12] <qin> less is default
[05:12] <sassyapril> xangua: its not working.. that's why i'am asking
[05:13] <asdofindia> rakesh, try pressing "Esc" while it is stuck. It might show some error. Or, maybe try this: go to virtual console by pressing ctrl+alt+F1, then do shutdown
[05:14] <rakesh> asdofindia:ok i shall do that.i hv another problem.the wifi gets hanged after sometime.is that due to torrent download.wats the solution
[05:15] <asdofindia> "hanged" as in? disconnected?
[05:16] <rakesh> asdofindia:well it shows the wifi as connected but there no work done.neither does it(connection) gets disconnected
[05:17] <qin> sassyapril: sudo apt-get install -f; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install less; if you talk about pager.
[05:17] <asdofindia> rakesh, like, is it very very slow? or does it not connect at all?
[05:17] <sassyapril> qin: i am talking about less for CSS. i got the way. thanks :)
[05:18] <qin> sassyapril: use vim.
[05:20] <user1000> i am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 but during install it wont let me opt out of a ubunto one account?  how can i skip this
[05:21] <rakesh> asdofindia:no  work .its 0bytes/sec.
[05:21] <Aaron> user1000, skip the process
[05:22] <user1000> Aaron: it won't proceed
[05:22] <iKillCypher> so Im trying to run ubuntu on my vm and it failed
[05:22] <user1000> Aaron: it just stays there
[05:22] <rakesh> asdofindia:the console ctrl+alt+f1 displays login:  .do i need to type shutdown here followed by my password
[05:23] <Aaron> user1000, restart the installation
[05:23] <iKillCypher> this kernel requries a x86-64 cpu but only detected a i686 cpu unable to boot
[05:23] <iKillCypher> any help?
[05:24] <user1000> Aaron: really? can i actually skip it if i do or will it happen again
[05:25] <iKillCypher> no one here can help me out?
[05:27] <jeffrey_f> iKillCypher: Details?  Error messages?  need more info please
 so Im trying to run ubuntu on my vm and it failed
[05:28] <iKillCypher> <iKillCypher> this kernel requries a x86-64 cpu but only detected a i686 cpu unable to boot
[05:30] <jeffrey_f> iKillCypher: OK.  You need a 32 bit version then
[05:30] <iKillCypher> I need a 64 bit version for android
[05:30] <Ben64> then make a 64 bit vm
[05:31] <iKillCypher> meaning
[05:31] <Ben64> the virtual machine you set up is 32 bit, so 64 bit ubuntu will not run on it
[05:31] <PKKid2> I asked earlier, but maybe I'll fair better luck this time..
[05:31] <PKKid2> Any idea why every time I reboot my filesystem reverts back to Jan 4th?
[05:32] <Ben64> PKKid2: you're going to have to explain what that means
[05:32] <elepfonitus> ben64 if it's virtual box you have to have "64" in the machine name for it make it 64 bit
[05:32] <iKillCypher> but my windows is 32 bit
[05:32] <Ben64> elepfonitus: no you don't
[05:32] <elepfonitus> is that only true for windows vm?
[05:32] <Ben64> iKillCypher: then you probably cannot make a 64bit VM
[05:32] <PKKid2> Ben64, If I update atp packages, create a file in the home dir, or do anything.. then reboot, its like I never did anything.
[05:33] <jeffrey_f> iKillCypher: Exactly why you can't use a 64 bit install.....
[05:33] <PKKid2> Ben64, Every time I reboot, it prompts me to download the same updates.  Dropbox downloads the same file updates.. etc..
[05:34] <Ben64> PKKid2: pastebin the output of "mount"
[05:34] <iKillCypher> oh :( nvm thanks
[05:34] <rakesh> hi all,plz help :wifi connection gets hanged in ubuntu 12.04.
[05:34] <PKKid2> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/14PkBBbw
[05:36] <Ben64> PKKid2: i don't see anything strange there. open a terminal, type something like "touch testfile" and reboot, it should be there when you get back
[05:37] <PKKid2> Ben64, Thats the test I did about an hour, the file was gone on reboot.
[05:37] <Ben64> PKKid2: try using the livecd and running fsck on it?
[05:38] <PKKid2> Ben64, Could this be a strange SSD drive thing?
[05:38] <PKKid2> Ben64, I guess Im asking what you might be thinking..
[05:38] <Ben64> PKKid2: i have no idea, never heard or seen anything like it
[05:39] <PKKid2> Ben64, Yea.. me either, lol.  But at least my PC is working, despite it being very annoying.
[05:39] <PKKid2> OK I'll run fsck, be back..
[05:39] <__bh> does anyone know why sound might not be working on a minimal install of Lucid on a Macbook 2,1?
[05:40] <__bh> i've run alsamixer and unmuted everything
[05:40] <Bashing-om> PKKid2: Here is one thought, is "root" mounted read only ?
[05:40] <__bh> frankly i've no clue how to troubleshoot this
[05:42] <gamma7272> linux drivers Multimedia Keyboard Oklick 780L кто подскажет как решить проблему не работает колесо на клаве
[05:42] <Mindkontrol> Hello everyone, I am trying to setup vpnc via command line to access vpn, but keep getting no response. I can ping the vpn server fine. Anyone familiar with setting up vpnc via command line?
[05:45] <gamma7272> kve не определяет клики на колесе клавы, а система у меня ubuntu 10.04 lusid  ядро 3.12.7
[06:09] <pr0t> I have an Atheros AR9462 running Ubuntu 13.10 and my wifi is extremely unreliable I tried adding some paramters to /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf but same result, anyone have any ideas?
[06:09] <zack_> my wine is not runing any exe files and i have know idea what im doing with this program
[06:10] <zack_> hello
[06:11] <poeticrpm> zack_, what happens when you open a terminal to the directory location of the .exe you want to launch and run it that way? For example: wine game.exe
[06:11] <zack_> i dont use the terminal
[06:12] <zack_> will you privat chat me
[06:12] <poeticrpm> pr0t, run lspci from a terminal and find the wirless device. Do a google search for your problem with that device ID and see if it turns up anything
[06:13] <zack_> poeticrpm:plz privat chat me
[06:13] <poeticrpm> zack_, why?
[06:13] <poeticrpm> its better to answer questions here so others can see
[06:13] <pr0t> poeticrpm I did they all say to add parameters into ath9k.conf I did that but still my wifi is HORRIBLE
[06:14] <zack_> it will be easyer for me to keep track of our convercation
[06:15] <poeticrpm> pr0t, see if any other wireless drivers are available for the card is what I mean. Atheros cards have a few drivers that arent up to snuff- you might be able to blacklist the driver that its using now and have it use another
[06:15] <poeticrpm> zack_, there isnt many people here. Just ask here so others can help if they know something I dont
[06:15] <zack_> ok
[06:15] <poeticrpm> many people writing here*
[06:16] <pr0t> poeticrpm I searched for using the compat-wireless drivers but can't find them for kernel 3.11.x
[06:16] <zack_> well do you have a diognostic
[06:16] <zack_> a bug error actualy came up once
[06:16] <poeticrpm> zack_, I gave you one- fire up a terminal from where the .exe is, and run it with: wine <nameofapp>.exe
[06:17] <maxxsire_>  I'm not sure if I'm in the right channel but I have Ubuntu Studio installed on my computer and have had no trouble with it for over a year now. Could run it for days with no performance problems. But in the last month or so after about an hour or so of starting up Ubuntu Studio it starts to get real sluggish even if I don't open many programs. The longer the computer is on the more sluggish it acts. What does this mean and what ca
[06:17] <maxxsire_> *days in a row*
[06:17] <zack_> what command
[06:17] <maxxsire_> lso, only about 5-15 percent of my CPU and about 10-30 percent of my RAM is being used at any time. Then applications like Firefox begin to crash.
[06:17] <poeticrpm> pr0t, can you give me the device ID?
[06:18] <poeticrpm> zack_, what is the .exe you are trying to run, and what directory is it in?
[06:18] <pr0t> sure
[06:19] <zack_> desktop/minecraft installer 1.6.2
[06:19] <pr0t> poeticrpm: the device id is 168c:0034
[06:20] <poeticrpm> zack_, as an example, you would type: wine "/home/zack_/Desktop/minecraft installer 1.6.2"
[06:20] <zack_> my thing is zsw
[06:20] <poeticrpm> you have to make sure all spaces, capitals and such are right
[06:21] <poeticrpm> zsw?
[06:21] <zack_> yea
[06:21] <poeticrpm> pr0t, gimme a few
[06:21] <pr0t> k
[06:21] <poeticrpm> zack_, i dont know what you mean dude
[06:21] <zack_> my username is zsw
[06:24] <poeticrpm> pr0t, im looking at this bug report: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49201
[06:25] <zack_> poeticrpm_,can you find someone else who might give me a diaoginostic
[06:25] <pr0t> hrmm, says fixes are in 3.11, but I am running 3.11.0-15
[06:25] <poeticrpm> pr0t, let me help zack_ a sec and then ill look through it some more. We might be able to sub the ath9k for a different driver, but im not sure. Most of the time these types of issues happen your screwed if you cant find another driver. This bug report has some tips that might help if we cant find another driver, and they dont revolve around any .conf files
[06:26] <pr0t> maybe I'll just move up to 3.12.7 and see what happens
[06:26] <poeticrpm> zack_: the terminal IS the diagnostic! wine "/home/zsw/Desktop/minecraft installer 1.6.2"
[06:26] <zack_> ok
[06:27] <poeticrpm> pr0t, a kernel update is always a possible driver fix. Gonna keep looking in that report and for a sub driver
[06:27] <poeticrpm> zack_: paste the output here if its short, or in a pastebin if its lon
[06:27] <poeticrpm> long*
[06:28] <zack_> No such file or directory
[06:29] <poeticrpm> you arent givine me the right location then. Move the .exe file to your home folder, and rename it to: mincraft.exe
[06:29] <poeticrpm> then run: wine /home/zsw/minecraft.exe
[06:29] <poeticrpm> and see what it says
[06:29] <poeticrpm> zack_, ^
[06:29] <zack_> k
[06:30] <zack_> i alredy have a file called minecraft.exe
[06:30] <poeticrpm> pr0t, you will have to reboot for that new kernel to take effect. you grabbing it from a kernel ppa?
[06:30] <poeticrpm> zack_, ok, then rename it: minecraftinstaller.exe
[06:31] <zack_> k
[06:31] <poeticrpm> and run: wine /home/zsw/minecraftinstaller.exe
[06:33] <ZAKhan> I have setup a software raid which installing the ubuntu 13.10 and it works fine, now I want to add another drive to the raid .. can someone pint me to a guide or help me out here?
[06:33] <pr0t> poeticrpm: im looking for one
[06:33] <gamma7272> зря игнорируешь что я тебе отписал с драйверами и как решить проблему
[06:33] <pr0t> hopefully all goes well since I am running this on a chromebook
[06:33] <cfhowlett> !ru|gamma7272,
[06:34] <poeticrpm> pr0t, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[06:34] <zack_> zsw@zsw-E-4610D:~$ /home/zsw/Desktop/minecraft installer 1.6.2 bash: /home/zsw/Desktop/minecraft: No such file or directory zsw@zsw-E-4610D:~$ /home/zsw/home/downloads/minecraftlauncher.exe bash: /home/zsw/home/downloads/minecraftlauncher.exe: No such file or directory
[06:34] <zack_> thats my output
[06:35] <Bitwise> Hello. I'm trying to connect to my bridged connection I made using network-manager. When I attempt to connect I get this: http://screencloud.net/v/h85H
[06:35] <poeticrpm> zack_, you need to learn a few things about directories in linux to make this work bud. Linux users have a directory in /home. my username is poeticrpm, so my location is /home/poeticrpm
[06:36] <zack_> idk dude
[06:36] <poeticrpm> zack_, you need to put the mincraftinstaller.exe in your user location: /home/zsw
[06:36] <zack_> i did
[06:36] <poeticrpm> so the final directory path would be: /home/zsw/minecraftinstaller.exe
[06:37] <poeticrpm> thus, you would run from a newly opened terminal: wine /home/zsw/minecraftinstaller.exe
[06:37] <zack_> ok its in downloads though
[06:37] <EsoRotica> Hello folks, I'm attempting to get a backlight on a laptop to turn off when the screen saver activates. I've tried several methods and I'm able to successfully get the backlight to turn off  with vbetools, but dpms does not get the job done. any ideas?
[06:38] <poeticrpm> i told you to move it to your home folder. Im sorry, that wasnt clear- when someone says that, they usually mean move it to /home/zsw
[06:38] <zack_> its not a file
[06:38] <poeticrpm> pr0t, any luck?
[06:38] <poeticrpm> zack_, I thought you said it was a .exe file?
[06:38] <pr0t> downloading right now
[06:38] <poeticrpm> wine has to have a .exe file to run
[06:39] <pr0t> but its taking forever since my wifi is buggy :P
[06:39] <zack_> its a exe program
[06:39] <zack_> sorry
[06:39] <EsoRotica> poeticrpm: Looks like he needs to move it home before that command will work..... mv ~/Downloads/minecraftinstall.exe ~/
[06:40] <maxxsire_>  Am I on the wrong channel for my questions?
[06:40] <poeticrpm> pr0t, you should be able to dpkg -i the kernel package if you cant set up the ppa. I didnt see the usual ppa page, but the page I linked you has the kernel to download
[06:40] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, you are right. I just want zack_ to understand directories a little better so he doesnt have these issues later
[06:41] <zack_> i dont us the command prompt much
[06:41] <KLVTZ> Has anyone had success installing Adobe Bridge via Wine on GNU/Linux Distro?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !wine|KLVTZ,
[06:41] <cfhowlett> KLVTZ, details and/or recommendations would be on the wine site
[06:41] <poeticrpm> zack_, thats fine. Its not for everyone. The command line is the best way to get feedback when crap doesnt work though
[06:42] <zack_> yea
[06:42] <zack_> i actualy have xubuntu
[06:42] <poeticrpm> zack_, so have you gotten it moved to /home/zsw?
[06:42] <zack_> no i cant
[06:42] <poeticrpm> zack_, makes little difference. Xubuntu is awesome- I use that as a backup OS
[06:42] <poeticrpm> zack_, why not?
[06:43] <zack_> its a program
[06:43] <Mindkontrol> can anyone help me troubleshoot a vpn connection via command line? I am using vpnc and have the *.conf setup
[06:43] <KLVTZ> cfhowlett, thanks!
[06:43] <poeticrpm> you can move a program- linux sees a .exe as just another file. Right click on the minecraftinstaller.exe and move it from the downloads folder to /home/zsw
[06:44] <zack_>  这吸
[06:44] <zack_> wrong one
[06:45] <poeticrpm> Mindkontrol, you might want to try #archlinux or #gentoo honestly. I think most of the pros are asleep here. Dont tell them youre on Ubuntu though!
[06:45] <Ben64> thats not a good idea
[06:45] <poeticrpm> Ben64, why not? :P
[06:45] <Ben64> because ubuntu is not arch nor gentoo
[06:46] <poeticrpm> Ben64, I cant imagine the differences are beyond Mindkontrol
[06:46] <zack_> hay what if u logged into my desktop and had a look
[06:46] <Mindkontrol> poeticrpm: actually, i am using raspbian
[06:46] <EsoRotica> Hello folks, I'm attempting to get a backlight on a laptop to turn off when the screen saver activates. I've tried several methods and I'm able to successfully get the backlight to turn off with vbetools, but dpms does not get the job done. any ideas?
[06:46] <Ben64> Mindkontrol: then you should be asking in #raspberrypi
[06:46] <poeticrpm> Mindkontrol, haha, I dont even know what that is
[06:47] <Ben64> poeticrpm: the point is we don't want to encourage people to break channel rules
[06:47] <poeticrpm> Ben64, Im on Arch right now, and im trying to help Ubuntu guys: some things are universal
[06:47] <zack_> can anayone else help me
[06:47] <poeticrpm> Ben64, oh, well I didnt realize that was against the rules. My bad
[06:47] <EsoRotica> zack_: All you need to do is move the file. Do it the same way you would in windows. copy it out of the downloads directory then into the /home/zsw directory
[06:48] <poeticrpm> zack_, dude, im really TRYING to help you.
[06:48] <zack_> how its not a ile
[06:48] <zack_> file
[06:49] <poeticrpm> zack_, EsoRotica makes a good point- its just like windows.
[06:49] <Ben64> zack_: what is the problem you are encountering?
[06:49] <EsoRotica> Are you saying that you havent downloaded the file? You said it was in your downloads firectory
[06:49] <Mindkontrol> poeticrpm: thanks for the advice
[06:49] <poeticrpm> zack_, yes it is. .exe windows programs ARE files
[06:49] <zack_> my wine wont run an exe program and i dont have anay more ideas
[06:50] <Ben64> zack_: open a terminal and type "notepad"
[06:50] <zack_> ok
[06:50] <Ben64> it should open up windows' notepad
[06:50] <Bitwise> Hello. I'm trying to connect to my bridged connection I made using network-manager. When I attempt to connect I get this: http://screencloud.net/v/h85H
[06:50] <Ben64> if not, something is wrong with your wine
[06:51] <poeticrpm> pr0t, any luck dude?
[06:51] <zack_> ok now what
[06:51] <pr0t> still trying to download :(
[06:51] <EsoRotica> Did it open notepad zack_?
[06:51] <zack_> yea
[06:51] <pr0t> might just download on this laptop and transfer it via usb key
[06:51] <EsoRotica> Zach_ why dont you just type wine ~/Downloads/minecraftinstaller.exe into your terminal
[06:52] <poeticrpm> pr0t, yeah, prolly best
[06:52] <linuxlite> how do i download windows
[06:52] <poeticrpm> zack_, agree with EsoRotica do that
[06:52] <Oddity> how do i shot webs
[06:53] <EsoRotica> Oddity: Get bit by a radio active spider.
[06:53] <Ben64> zack_: what are you trying to run anyway
[06:54] <zack_> dnt work
[06:54] <EsoRotica> zack_: can you give a more detailed progress report, what was the error?
[06:54] <zack_> im trying to run a minecraft installer
[06:54] <Ben64> zack_: you know, they make minecraft for linux. why run it in wine?
[06:55] <zack_> wine: cannot find '/home/zsw/Downloads/minecraftinstaller.exe'
[06:55] <ZAKhan> I have setup a software raid while installing ubuntu 13.10 and it works fine, now I want to add another drive to the raid .. can someone point me to a guide or help me out here?
[06:55] <zack_> cuz i can get it free this way
[06:56] <Ben64> zack_: sorry, we don't support piracy here
[06:56] <zack_> its not piracy
[06:57] <thom_r> buy it and run it natively in Linux.
[06:57] <zack_> i got it from the webpage minecraft.net
[06:58] <zack_> i cant afford anayway
[06:58] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, dpms doesnt shut the screen off?
[06:58] <EsoRotica> poeticrpm: It will blank the screen, but it will not shut off the backlight
[06:59] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, just as a baseline, does xscreensaver turn the screen off if you try it? I wrote a script for this at some point, but I used dpms without issue
[06:59] <EsoRotica> IIRC, Gnome-screensaver is the default and Xscreensaver is not installed.
[07:00] <EsoRotica> I'll go grab it I suppose
[07:00] <Ben64> yeah i made a script to turn off my monitor when the screen blanks
[07:00] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, yeah, youre prolly right. I use XFCE and openbox so..
[07:00] <EsoRotica> Ben, are you using vbetool?
[07:00] <thom_r> Mate 1.6 is coming to 14.04
[07:00] <Ben64> also tied it into blueproximity, so when i enter the room the screensaver disables and my screen turns on, it's awesome
[07:01] <poeticrpm> Ben64, that IS awesome. Never thought of that
[07:01] <EsoRotica> Thats fantastic, Sadly the laptop I'm configuring is for a friend and a new inductee to *nix.
[07:02] <Ben64> "xset dpms force off" might be the command you want to do though
[07:02] <EsoRotica> I was able to convince him to buy 8 GB DDR3 and an 840 evo 250GB SSD, so its a good start for him. this things a rocketship
[07:02] <Ben64> could have it check periodically for screensaver activation, and run that if it is true
[07:02] <zack_> hello
[07:03] <EsoRotica> Ben64: The only way I am successfully able to get the backlight to go off is with vbetool, dpms off will blank the screen but not the backlight
[07:03] <EsoRotica> zack_: see the private messages  I sent
[07:03] <Ben64> EsoRotica: oh, well i'm on a desktop.
[07:03] <zack_> i dont know how to see it
[07:03] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, out of curiosity, what is the dpms command you are using? Also, have you tried setting a sleep command before blanking/dpms is actually ran? I believe I had to do that when manually invoking the screensaver since even a pixel of movement would have dpms fail but NOT the blanking (since most screensavers accomodate a few pixels movement)
[07:04] <EsoRotica> Yeah ben, thats the one frustration. The monitor also doen't report EDID properly
[07:04] <EsoRotica> poeticrpm: There is some validity to it. let me attempt with sleep proceeding
[07:05] <EsoRotica> Same result.
[07:06] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, xset dpms force off
[07:06] <poeticrpm> right?
[07:06] <EsoRotica> Here is what I've attempted:   xset dpms force off; (with or without proceeding sleep command) does successfully blank the screen, but the backlight stays on
[07:07] <zack_> EsoRotica check msg
[07:07] <EsoRotica> using "sudo vbetool dpms off" will blank the screen and disable the backlight   [Do not attempt this without knowing that you will need to type sudo vbetool dpms on into a blank screen]]
[07:08] <EsoRotica> The screen will not wake without the secondary command
[07:08] <zack_> i have xubuntu<EsoRotica
[07:10] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, you could do a really ugly hack and have an exception for that command in sudo, but I dont know how youd go about waking the screen. Maybe a keyboard shortcut to run the command? Tried xscreensaver? I doubt it will work if dpms doesnt
[07:10] <EsoRotica> Thats just the thing, I have a feeling dropping back to nvidia generic may also do the trick.
[07:11] <poeticrpm> didnt even consider that
[07:11] <EsoRotica> Additionally, having to train a new user a non-standard behavior just isnt the way to go.
[07:11] <poeticrpm> yeah
[07:11] <poeticrpm> you got me
[07:12] <EsoRotica> I'll attempt X real quick
[07:12] <poeticrpm> EsoRotica, http://pastebin.com/84acAmve
[07:12] <EsoRotica> maybe it will run the mode differently.
[07:12] <poeticrpm> thats a script I found but never used awhile ago
[07:13] <poeticrpm> the bash script I wrote used dpms (like this python one does), so it prolly wont help either. Its also on my desktop which im not at
[07:13] <EsoRotica> thre is no i option
[07:14] <poeticrpm> haha
[07:14]  * poeticrpm gives up
[07:14] <poeticrpm> good luck
[07:14] <EsoRotica> Too fun
[07:15] <EsoRotica> This does look prmising though
[07:15] <EsoRotica> Looks like it will just sit and capture any input.
[07:16] <poeticrpm> pretty much
[07:16] <EsoRotica> Ah, gotta get this set in Xscreensaver... Gnome-screensaver wouldnt allow this.
[07:21] <pr0t> poeticrpm: so I am running 3.12.x now and still same wifi issues
[07:22] <poeticrpm> pr0t, ok, hold on
[07:26] <poeticrpm> pr0t, ok, and what was the issue with compat-wireless?
[07:26] <pr0t> couldn't find any for my kernel
[07:27] <poeticrpm> pr0t, any for the new kernel? any for a kernel in the ppa?
[07:28] <Nothing_Much> Question, on Launchpad, is it possible to revoke the Ubuntu code of conduct?
[07:28] <pr0t> no, none :(
[07:28] <poeticrpm> only other thing I can think to try is to blacklist the ath9k module and see if the ath5k driver works, How hold is the laptop?
[07:28] <poeticrpm> Nothing_Much, huh? what do you mean?
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. Is there a way to force the LiveCD to load the minimal vesa drivers? My video card isn't supported out of the box at all. I have to install, then install the AMD drivers to get my desktop to work.
[07:29] <Nothing_Much> poeticrpm: I signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and I think it applies to outside of launchpad, such as the subreddit.
[07:29] <poeticrpm> pr0t, I am on Arch atm, so I had a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup#Atheros
[07:29] <PatrickDickey> Nothing_Much: Why would you want to revoke it?
[07:29] <pr0t> hrm ath5k doesn't seem to work with my card
[07:29] <Nothing_Much> PatrickDickey: I don't think I can live up to its conduct. :(
[07:29] <Nothing_Much> At least in the subreddit
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> !Code of Conduct | Nothing_Much this might give you information on that.
[07:30] <poeticrpm> pr0t, hmmm.. does ndiswrapper even work anymore? Thats all I can think of
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> I'd say if the subreddit isn't a "part of the community" then you shouldn't have to worry.
[07:30] <EsoRotica> poeticrpm: Whould I save this gist as a sh or py?
[07:31] <poeticrpm> its python, so I .py
[07:31] <Nothing_Much> PatrickDickey: I can't figure out which websites it applies to
[07:31] <poeticrpm> i want to stress I didnt write it- I tried it and then made a bash script. Also, I believe its a python2 script, not 3. Not sure if it makes a difference in this script
[07:32] <PatrickDickey> Nothing_Much: do you have a link to the subreddit, by chance?
[07:32] <Nothing_Much> PatrickDickey: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/
[07:33] <Nothing_Much> If it's a community that follows the COC then I need it revoked, if not then how would I add my flair? :)
[07:35] <PatrickDickey> Nothing_Much: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/l5b3x/members_and_canonical_employees_claim_your_flair/ I guess I don't see where you'd have a problem. If you don't apply for a flair, then the CoC doesn't necessarily apply to you. And if you want to apply, then you follow those directions.
[07:36] <PatrickDickey> And Nothing_Much, are you a member of the ubuntu-members group on launchpad?
[07:36] <Nothing_Much> PatrickDickey: Oh no, I'm not, I don't normally add myself to those groups because I can't comprehend a lot of reading sometimes
[07:37] <Nothing_Much> When it comes to actually programming and contributing aside from being a loudmouth promoter.
[07:37] <PatrickDickey> Then, I wouldn't think the CoC applies to you on the reddit site. Since you're not acting as an official Ubuntu representative, I mean.
[07:38] <Nothing_Much> I'm really not sure, this is a problem of mine and I apologize for it
[07:38] <Nothing_Much> Is there a way I can contact official Ubuntu members?
[07:39] <PatrickDickey> I wouldn't apologize. It's not an off-topic subject. I think there's a link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[07:41] <Nothing_Much> PatrickDickey: Oh man... I can't figure this stuff out.. :( I'll just head out for now
[07:42] <PatrickDickey> Nothing_Much: There's an email link in the FAQ. But my interpretation is that unless you're a member, or you're posting on the wiki or forums, then it doesn't apply to you.
[07:45] <contrapunctus> Hey folks.
[07:46] <PatrickDickey> Hey contrapunctus.
[07:47] <contrapunctus> I'm using udisks in a script to mount disks at boot (and set the script to not require a sudo password in the sudoers file), but while it works, the directories are inaccessible for anyone save the root. chmod, chown, no difference...thoughts?
[07:57] <sharperguy> How can I edit the ubuntu wiki? I can see some errors in the Joomla tutorial but it said "login to edit" and now I'm logged in there seems to be no edit button
[08:00] <PatrickDickey> sharperguy: You probably have to get permission. There should be some information about how to become an editor.
[08:01] <peyam> hi
[08:01] <peyam> Doesn anyone know how I can change "peyam@peyam:@ in terminal to just "Peyam"?
[08:04] <sharperguy> PatrickDickey: doesn't really seem worth it if all I want to do is change some backticks to quotation marks :/
[08:06] <The_john> hi there
[08:06] <thom_r> hey
[08:06] <The_john> hw r u
[08:06] <thom_r> good, do you have a support issue?
[08:07] <The_john> well ijust needed some info
[08:07] <thom_r> ok
[08:07] <The_john> what exactly is an inode in linux
[08:07] <thom_r> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode
[08:07] <Corbin> hey folks, I've been warned that UEFI makes shopping for a laptop really difficult. How much truth is there to this?
[08:08] <thom_r> why would you need to worry about UEFI?
[08:09] <Corbin> Been told it has some lockdown that makes it so you can't install linux on some/most models. I'm here to see if that's remotely close to the truth.
[08:09] <jirido> Hi i have problem updating as it hangs on bad signatures. i were here some days ago and got help but we got stuck as updating the sinatures did not seem to help. I hoped it would go better today :) http://pastebin.com/mEF4fqXA
[08:09] <Corbin> some windows 8 conspiracy or something. My friend may just be misinformed/dumb.
[08:09] <thom_r> that is not the truth. It might have been the truth a few years ago when UEFI first came out. That isn't a problem at all now.
[08:09] <contrapunctus> I'm using udisks in a script to mount disks at boot (and set the script to not require a sudo password in the sudoers file), but while it works, the directories are inaccessible for anyone save the root. chmod, chown, no difference...thoughts?
[08:09] <thom_r> if the specific distro doesn't have EFI keys(Ubuntu does) then install it in legacy mode.
[08:10] <Corbin> I'd be installing either ubuntu or mint, so I'm probably fine in that regard
[08:10] <Ben64> Corbin: just so you know, mint is not supported in this channel
[08:11] <thom_r> I will warn you about Toshiba laptops. All the ones I've messed with, I've had to manually install the wireless driver
[08:11] <Corbin> I am aware, not really asking for mint specific support
[08:11] <contrapunctus> Corbin: Ben64: That still does not really mean that one can't just say Ubuntu instead of Mint :p
[08:11] <The_john> @thom_r i was asked today why does inode no doesnt change incase of cut n paste and change in caseof copy paste
[08:12] <thom_r> The_john, I don't know the answer to that question. Hopefully someone else can help you in that regard
[08:12] <Corbin> thom_r: i wasn't really looking at toshibas anyway, thinking a dell, asus, maybe even a sony if I feel like splurging but to be honest I haven't done significant research into laptops in 3 years.
[08:13] <zack_> hello i need some help runing a exe file. wine will not run it directly.so i need to know the command to run it manualy
[08:13] <The_john> anybody with an ans or a hint?
[08:13] <fobelx> what is a good tool to preview images?
[08:13] <Corbin> as long as I can install ubuntu or mint (i mean ubuntu sorry) without any problems besides the normal linux compatibility issues that have always existed, I'm happy
[08:14] <zack_> i was never good with commands
[08:14] <thom_r> Corbin, you should be able to install it on just about anything. If you can, take a live usb and test it out on a display model
[08:15] <Corbin> not a bad idea, I have the newest mint release on a usb already. just have to make sure frys doesn't get angry at me for trying
[08:15] <zack_> hello i need some help runing a exe file. wine will not run it directly.so i need to know the command to run it manualy
[08:15] <jirido> Hmm it seems like libssh2-1 dont come from a autenticiated suorce and that i cant update
[08:16] <jirido> Can i be hacked?
[08:16] <zack_> hello
[08:16] <thom_r> zack_, just get the Linux version of Minecraft
[08:16] <The_john> hi
[08:16] <Unforgiven> zack_: not all exe work , basically double click will run it, what application are you trying to run
[08:17] <zack_> its not that
[08:17] <thom_r> what is it now?
[08:17] <zack_> i alredy tryed that
[08:17] <Corbin> thom_r: thanks for the help, I'm going to start my hunt for my new laptop now
[08:17] <zack_> it wont respond
[08:18] <Unforgiven> zack_: then you try me what this 'exe' are you running? or check it on winehq database if that software could work
[08:18] <Unforgiven> s/try/tell
[08:18] <Unforgiven> very serious typo
[08:18] <zack_> what i dont speck robot hacker
[08:19] <Ben64> zack_: again, we cannot help you with piracy
[08:19] <zack_> i alredy have minecraft
[08:19] <zack_> fyi
[08:21] <zack_> yo will u guys help or not
[08:21] <thom_r> zach_ what is the name of the program you are trying to install?
[08:21] <Ben64> thom_r: its a pirated version of minecraft
[08:22] <Unforgiven> oh thats bad, dont help him
[08:22] <b0x> im trying to get compiz plugin 'put' to work, so i can move windows from one monitor / output to another
[08:22] <b0x> however i cant get it to fire
[08:22] <Ben64> Unforgiven: exactly
[08:22] <b0x> nor can i 'expand/fullscreen' a window without it going back to the original monitor
[08:22] <b0x> anyone familiar with this?
[08:23] <zack_> 帐户生成器 program name
[08:24] <zack_> mind yr one bizness ben64
[08:25] <Ben64> !piracy | zack_
[08:25] <Unforgiven> zack_: speak english, there is an indian ubuntu channel if you need it
[08:26] <zack_> that was chinese thats the program name
[08:26] <PatrickDickey> zack_: check at apps.winehq.org to see if others have been able to get whatever exe installed. Otherwise, if it's NOT a pirated or questionable program, you could try PlayonLinux. If it IS something you didn't purchase, then I suggest you check in ##nowhere.
[08:27] <zack_> i have minecraft
[08:27] <thom_r> zach_ what is the english name of the program?
[08:28] <Ben64> 帐户生成器 translates to "Account Generator" so I'd have to guess a fake minecraft id generator
[08:28] <zack_> it cant be translated but if it could be it would be somthing like profile genrator
[08:28] <zack_> thanks
[08:29] <thom_r> sounds fishy to me
[08:29] <zack_> and no ass head its so i can make an account faster
[08:29] <Corbin> make an account faster, because giving them your email takes too long
[08:29] <zack_> yes
[08:30] <Ben64> that sort of language is not allowed here zack_ , neither is this offtopic discussion. find someone else to help you pirate, we shall not.
[08:30] <zack_> ok boot me then
[08:30] <thom_r> zach_ | language!
[08:31] <Unforgiven> !language | zack_
[08:31] <thom_r> dang, I did it backwards
[08:31] <zack_> that means donkey
[08:31] <Ben64> whats the point? just leave. you're not getting support for that here. you can try asking #winehq for wine help, but they won't help you with piracy either
[08:31] <Unforgiven> !ubuntu-cn | zack_
[08:31] <zack_> no i dont have to
[08:32] <k1l> !guidelines | zack_ stick to the guidelines and keep this channel clean for ubuntu support, thanks
[08:32] <zack_> what do u have aganst me anay way
[08:33] <zack_> this a free for anayone to use
[08:33] <PatrickDickey> zack_: I don't think it's you personally. It's more a case of if you're trying to do something illegal, then in theory Canonical and anyone who helps you can get into trouble for it.
[08:34] <l9> anyone that could help me understand why ipconfig reports no trafic on eth0 ?
[08:34] <l9> ifocnig sorry
[08:34] <Ben64> l9: you mean ifconfig? and how are you seeing no traffic using that?
[08:35] <PatrickDickey> l9: Does it show an IP address for eth0?
[08:35] <l9> Ben64: ifconfig reports RX and TX as 0.0 B
[08:35] <l9> PatrickDickey: yeah
[08:35] <l9> the lo has 1.5GB
[08:36] <PatrickDickey> l9: What is the IP Address that it's showing?
[08:36] <l9> PatrickDickey: it shows my home network ip 10.0.0.151
[08:36] <Ben64> l9: are the RX and TX packets non-zero?
[08:36] <PatrickDickey> l9: Are you able to ping anything?
[08:37] <l9> Ben64: just one 0 on both
[08:38] <l9> PatrickDickey: sure i reach everything on the network
[08:38] <PatrickDickey> l9: Out of curiosity, does collisions have anything other than 0?
[08:38] <l9> for me it looks like all trafic goes trough lo
[08:38] <PatrickDickey> l9: And how about outside of the network?
[08:38] <Ben64> strange for lo to have 1.5GB too, mine shows 111MB after 3 weeks of uptime
[08:38] <l9> RX has dropped 165 packets
[08:38]  * PatrickDickey has 401366 for lo and 66034397 for eth0
[08:39] <l9>  RX bytes:1589690775 (1.5 GB)  TX bytes:1589690775 (1.5 GB)
[08:39] <l9> after 21h uptime
[08:39] <l9> thats the lo
[08:39] <Ben64> very unusual
[08:39] <Unforgiven> are you using some kind like ssh tunneling to local port?
[08:40] <l9> Unforgiven: I was thinking the same thing so i did a nmap of localhost but no port showed up
[08:40] <PatrickDickey> l9: Are you on the computer right now? Or are you in here from a different computer?
[08:41] <Ben64> even if it was a tunnel it'd have to go out on a different interface
[08:41] <l9> on the computer now
[08:41] <helmut_> hi
[08:41] <l9> only interfaces that shows up are eth0 and lo
[08:42] <Ben64> l9: can you pastebin "ifconfig -a -v"
[08:42] <Unforgiven> i am on wifi, using ssh tunnel for my browsing, so the traffic of my browsing goes to lo
[08:43] <Ben64> Unforgiven: still would have to go out on wlan0 or whatever or you wouldn't be able to do anything
[08:43] <l9> http://pastebin.com/m9HNQQxL
[08:43] <Unforgiven> Ben64: not really it will goes to local port first and yeah it also will hit the wlan0
[08:43] <bekks> Unforgiven: Thats nonsense. An ssh tunnel doesnt make traffic magically go to lo.
[08:43] <Unforgiven> so both are increasing in traffic
[08:43] <Unforgiven> eh?
[08:45] <l9> i did a netstat dump of the trafic on eth0 just too make sure there actually are trafic there and there was :P
[08:46] <Unforgiven> l9: so how big was the traffic on eth0
[08:46] <PatrickDickey> l9: You might want to install ethtool and run it to see what the status of eth0 is. Pastebin the results of that. You'd use sudo ethtool eth0 without anything else to get the information.
[08:48] <l9> PatrickDickey: http://pastebin.com/y6TxNjs7
[08:48] <l9> thats sudo ethtool eth0
[08:53] <PatrickDickey> l9: Try sudo ethtool -S eth0 (should show the network statistics)
[08:53] <l9> no stats available
[08:54] <l9> starting too look like this computer might be comprimised or something
[08:55] <Corbin> okay folks, anything I should know about this sony laptop with regards to ubuntu or is it most likely fine? (I am googling for the answer as well, just a shot in the dark if anyone already has an answer) http://tinyurl.com/pnj7j4j
[08:57] <PatrickDickey> Corbin: I can tell you that if you're looking at Toshiba laptops (I bought one for Black Friday in the US), you have to use xforcevesa to boot the Ubuntu Live CD. and then you'll have to manually install the drivers from AMD for the video card (and probably the wireless card also).
[08:58] <l9> PatrickDickey: a tcpdump of the trafic http://pastebin.com/EhX3VaZk
[08:58] <oscargot> Hi, are kernel workqueues meant for one time tasks or can I use them for repeated tasks as well? Thanks!
[08:59] <Corbin> are intel4000 graphics fine? there's not a lot in this price range that has different than the 4000
[08:59] <bekks> Corbin: Depends on your requirements.
[08:59] <theuser> so i download 12.4 LTS check the checksum. and make a boot stick.... tried with the boot stick tool and the unetboot etc etc... and no matter what i always get a broken stick... i've tried 4different brand new sticks on 5 different computers and the same shit every time
[08:59] <Corbin> my most graphically intense games are minecraft and FTL so as long as it does those and can output 1080p to my TV fine i'm content
[09:01] <PatrickDickey> theuser: do you have another computer that you can try booting it with? Just in case it's not the USB Stick, but something with the computer you're trying to install it to.
[09:02] <PatrickDickey> l9: I'm not sure what to tell you. Sorry. It's obvious that you're able to get online and surf the net (since you're here). As for why the statistics aren't showing up, it could be something with the driver or something else altogether.
[09:02] <Gernon> Delft by Boch Royal Sphinx, toilet, toilet dolls, ceramics, rarity
[09:02] <Gernon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyygNQO-Ue8
[09:02] <Gernon> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steiff-Teddybar-Robin-Hood-Nr-1469-von-1500-/221349898170?pt=Antikspielzeug&hash=item33897b67ba
[09:02] <FloodBot1> Gernon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <theuser> PatrickDickey: im pretty sure i said 4 different sticks and 5 different computers
[09:03] <theuser> on 2 continents
[09:04] <PatrickDickey> theuser: It could just be that the sticks don't work properly. What brand are they?
[09:04] <l9> PatrickDickey: hopefully it is just the driver and not what I fear it might be. Right at this moment i dont trust my computer and the files on it...
[09:04] <PatrickDickey> theuser: What I mean is that they might have a virtual CD-ROM in their firmware or something else that's being booted instead of Ubuntu.
[09:05] <theuser> PatrickDickey: Kingston, SanDisk, Corshair, and some other stick that has no brand
[09:05] <PatrickDickey> Well l9, I can tell you that it's harder to hack Linux. And especially if you're running behind a NAT.
[09:05] <theuser> PatrickDickey: oh they mostly boot.... but "disk" check fails and install attempts fail...
[09:06] <PatrickDickey> theuser: Is there any reason why you can't use an Optical Disk?
[09:06] <IdleOne> You are certain the computers are set to boot from USB and they are capable of doing it?
[09:07] <theuser> PatrickDickey: the utter and complete absence of drives other than an old IDE drive that nothing i have will accept
[09:07] <PatrickDickey> theuser: You could try an alternate disc for 12.04. I'm pretty sure that's still available (I think it was in 12.10 or later that they dropped the alternate).
[09:07] <theuser> PatrickDickey: already downloading it
[09:08] <PatrickDickey> theuser: When you try booting, does it at least get to the installation screens? Or does it crash before that?
[09:09] <newuser> hello, all i just replaced windows8 with 8.1 and now during boot i am not able to see ubuntu i mean its directly booting to windows
[09:09] <theuser> PatrickDickey: I moved from Slack to Ubuntu in like 08-09  and it was fairly stable and fine... past year ive been running in to shit with ubuntu.... really not the good system it once was
[09:09] <IdleOne> theuser: please keep the language clean
[09:09] <newuser> if i reinstall grub2 will it solve my problem?
[09:10] <Corbin> newuser: might have overwritten the boot loader during the update. reinstall grub probably will fix
[09:10] <theuser> newuser: yes
[09:10] <newuser> ok thanks guys will try to reinstall grub2 using live usb
[09:10] <PatrickDickey> uefi | newuser You might need to use this information
[09:10] <PatrickDickey> !uefi | newuser You might need to use this information
[09:11] <newuser> PatrickDickey: no uefi
[09:11] <PatrickDickey> Ahhhh. then it's a simple case of reinstalling Grub2.
[09:11] <PatrickDickey> !grub2 | newuser
[09:13] <newuser> PatrickDickey: ty
[09:13] <l9> PatrickDickey: yeah i agree with you on that, I guess seting up iptables wouldnt hurt tho
[09:13] <jirido> Is ther some other Ubuntu suport channel one can try to get help on if one have no luck with geting a response here?
[09:13] <PatrickDickey> No problem newuser.
[09:13] <PatrickDickey> jirido: What was your question.
[09:14] <jirido> well.. i try to update but get a problem with libssh
[09:14] <bekks> !details | jirido
[09:14] <jirido> it says that it is from an unsecure suorce
[09:14] <ArielX_> anyone know PHP here
[09:14] <jirido> sudo apt get
[09:14] <bekks> jirido: Pastebin the entire command and its output. "sudo apt get" is an invalid command.
[09:14] <jirido> sudo apt-get update giver errors
[09:14] <PatrickDickey> ArielX_: I've done some PHP coding, but I wouldn't say I "know" it.
[09:15] <bekks> jirido: Then pastebin the output.
[09:15] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/mEF4fqXA
[09:15] <bekks> ArielX_: You better ask in ##php I guess.
[09:15] <ArielX_> PatrickDickey: men... I bought this formtoemailpro.php and tried different means to have it email me form on my web page still I can't... Does anyone know how to go about this.... the error message I receive is Please complete the name field etc
[09:15] <jirido> iv tried to update the signatures a couple days ago by advice here but it seamed not to help
[09:16] <PatrickDickey> ArielX_: You'll want to follow bekks advice. ##php will be the place to ask.
[09:16] <ArielX_> [NickServ] ArielX_ is not a registered nickname.
[09:16] <ArielX_> * #php: Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
[09:16] <ArielX_> * #php: Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
[09:16] <ArielX_> * ##php: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[09:16] <FloodBot1> ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:16] <bekks> jirido: There are a) no errors, but warnings only, b) there is no warning about libssh, but only about the foreign software source you activated, like google and stuff. That messages have entirely nothing to do with libssh.
[09:16] <kostkon> !register | ArielX_
[09:17] <ArielX_> !register ArielX_
[09:17] <jussi> Im looking for a basic image editor for ubuntu - just changing background colours, cropping and other small edits. any recommendations?
[09:17] <Backgammon> You know.
[09:17] <bekks> jussi: gimp
[09:17] <Backgammon> The typical effect of using the !register script to inform newbies about how to register just results in them typing !register [nick]
[09:18] <jussi> bekks: gimp is a bit overboard for what i need. something simpler
[09:18] <PatrickDickey> And ArielX_ if you bought it, then you should be able to get support from whomever you paid. That's why you paid them.
[09:18] <Backgammon> I think this situation could be improved.
[09:18] <ArielX_> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER ArielX_ dzyjpgryxhvt
[09:18] <bekks> ArielX_: Now it is time to change your password.
[09:18] <Backgammon> First off, you'll want to remember that password.
[09:18] <bioman> Hello
[09:18] <Backgammon> Second, you don't actually have to capitalize those commands.
[09:19] <Backgammon> And I'm sure you've figured out that you add / as the first character to send an IRC command.
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> ArielX_: you need a / before the nick, and as bekks just said, you need a new password.
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> sorry the  msg not nick... :S
[09:19] <kostkon> :/
[09:20] <bioman> I've installed ubuntu studio because I had crackles/clicks issues with my USB DAC. This didn't change anything. So I decided to use aplay from alsa. It seems better. But I can't find any alsa config file O_o Wgere are they ?
[09:20] <jussi> found pinta, seems ok. laters.
[09:20] <jirido> ok, but why cant i update? it says that i try to install libssh2-1 from unautenticated source
[09:21] <PatrickDickey> !pastebin | jirido Please pastebin the results of apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:21] <jirido> ok, but why cant i update? it says that i try to install libssh2-1 from unautenticated source / PatrickDickey ok
[09:21] <PatrickDickey> jirido: Until we see exactly what you're doing, we really can't help you out. Sorry.
[09:21] <bioman> anybody please ?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !patience|bioman,
[09:23] <PatrickDickey> bioman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646655 might point you in the right direction.
[09:23]  * PatrickDickey thinks google should be added to the list ubottu gives out for patience.
[09:24] <bioman> PatrickDickey: I've searched... no ~/.asounrc and no /etc/asound.conf
[09:24] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/9Tg3DRs4
[09:24] <giginfo> Привет
[09:24] <PatrickDickey> bioman how about /usr/share/alsa ?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !ru|giginfo,
[09:26] <jirido> VARNING: Följande paket kunde inte autentiseras! libssh2-1
[09:26] <jirido> Installera dessa paket utan verifiering [j/N]? j
[09:26] <jirido>  it meens it asked me to install without werification an i said yes!
[09:27] <jirido> It seemed to work
[09:28] <jirido> PatrickDickey: but how smart is it to install libssh without verification? and still why?
[09:28] <VlanX> it's not possile for me to enable the Compiz Cube function on my system, how can I check if it's the VGA's fault?
[09:29] <PatrickDickey> jirido: If you know that the source is trustworthy, then it should be OK. But, I think you have more problems than just that. You had quite a few badsigs in there (signature verification errors). You might want to look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/131601/how-to-overcome-signature-verification-error for help.
[09:29] <newuser1> what is the correct command to mount a drive as to reinstall grub2?using a live usb
[09:29] <jirido> OK
[09:30] <PatrickDickey> newuser1:  it should be in the wiki page for Grub2.
[09:30] <bioman> PatrickDickey: thank you. But It just crackeled :( wtf ?
[09:31]  * PatrickDickey typically just creates a directory in mnt and then mounts it normally mount /dev/sdaX /mnt then update-grub
[09:31] <newuser1> PatrickDickey: yes it is i am little confused my ext4 partition is sdb3 and i am using sudo grub-install /dev/sdb3
[09:31] <PatrickDickey> bioman: I'm not sure. Sorry. I'm not a sound person. You could always try in #ubuntu-studio and see if there are people in there.
[09:31] <bioman> PatrickDickey: ok thanks
[09:31] <newuser1> PatrickDickey: ok ok thanks
[09:32] <PatrickDickey> newuser1: You probably want to use grub-install /dev/sdb then. You typically want it in the bootloader, not the partition. Unless you have a reason to put it in the partition, that is.
[09:32] <newuser1> PatrickDickey: yes i want it in bootloader only
[09:33] <PatrickDickey> newuser1:  then it's /dev/sdb for that drive, or /dev/sda for the first drive. Whichever bootloader you want it in.
[09:33] <PatrickDickey> And newuser1 it's typically in whichever drive boots first.
[09:34] <newuser1> PatrickDickey: thanku very much
[09:34] <PatrickDickey> No problem newuser1. I hope it works out for you. I'm actually installing Ubuntu in UEFI mode, so I can keep my recovery partitions intact. So, I feel your pain, sort of.
[09:36] <bekks> jirido: Nothing in your paste indicates that libssh is going to be installed from an trusted source, I even explained your paste to you.
[09:36] <bekks> jirido: If you are concerned, uninstall all software from untrusted sources, and disable those sources.
[09:50] <andyfied> nuts, is there a simple way to recursively get pcmanfm to change permissions?
[09:53] <newuser1> friends please help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6737542/ all i want is to reinstall grub using dual boot and not able to see ubuntu, directly booting to windows8.1 NO uefi system is 4years old
[09:56] <oxmox> hi i have some trouble with a kernel i want to make it keep adding a "y"  msg i get  "The changelog says we are creating 3.11.10+12+y However, I thought the version is 3.11.10+12+"
[09:58] <fredbarns> hey guys, im running xfce on ubuntu 13.10, everytime i close my laptop lid...the screens locks (good!) and when i unlock it (from gnome-screensaver) it will display the display settings dialog "xfce4-display-settings --minimal". how to prevent this?
[10:04] <SASDOE> anyone here know how to get prompted for a section when typing man open for example? By default it'll open section one.
[10:05] <SASDOE> I want the "what manual page do you want" question
[10:08] <SASDOE> And I've been through man man a couple of times now, trying -a -S -k etc
[10:08] <POVaddct> SASDOE: i don't think there is such a prompt option
[10:08] <lionrouge> hi ppl
[10:08] <lionrouge> yesterday i updated my Ubuntu and now it freezes at boot
[10:09] <lionrouge> i booted from liveusb
[10:09] <lionrouge> how can i figure out what went wrong?
[10:09] <POVaddct> SASDOE: so if you want the syscall manpage if open you'd say   man 2 open
[10:10] <SASDOE> POVaddct: There has to be such an option since I had it before!
[10:10] <POVaddct> SASDOE: i have never seen man prompting the section
[10:10] <POVaddct> SASDOE: maybe if was a shell function wrapping man?
[10:10] <POVaddct> s/if/it/
[10:10] <SASDOE> It could've been a shell,
[10:11] <SASDOE> Something like apropos would do it no?
[10:11] <SASDOE> Maybe I'll have to write it myself
[10:12] <SASDOE> POVaddct: do you know I can get a list of relevant sections?
[10:12] <_Myself> Greetings
[10:12] <_Myself> I have 2 little questions
[10:13] <_Myself> Is there a command to check GPU clock and a command to check if 2d acceleration is working ?
[10:18] <_Myself> Is there a command to check GPU clock and a command to check  if 2d acceleration is working ?
[10:19] <VlanX> still anything to playback MSS2 codec wmv's?
[10:19] <_Myself> What ?
[10:20] <newuser1> please help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6737542/
[10:20] <oxmox> fredbarns i testet it on my desktop with no screensaver and it works fine
[10:23] <VlanX> Myself: u mean 3D, right?
[10:23] <SASDOE> POVaddct: can you tell me output for apropos open?
[10:23] <SASDOE> or man -k open
[10:23] <SASDOE> or anyone else for that matter
[10:24] <_Myself> No, i meant 2d acceleration
[10:24] <POVaddct> SASDOE: way too many output. i just checked the manpage of man.
[10:24] <SASDOE> Way to many output?? I get "nothing appropriate", something must be wrong here
[10:25] <POVaddct> SASDOE: man -k open | wc -l    gives 102 here
[10:25] <POVaddct> SASDOE: i have installed manpages, manpages-de and manpages-dev
[10:26] <SASDOE> Ok I ran mandb, but am getting a heavy set of errors..
[10:28] <_Myself> I meant 2d acceleration
[10:30] <_Myself> Anyone ?
[10:31] <lionrouge> how can iuninstall fglrx downloaded directly from AMD site?
[10:31] <Ben64> _Myself: can you move a window across the screen without a problem?
[10:31] <_Myself> Yes
[10:31] <Ben64> then you have 2d working fine
[10:32] <Neytiri> how do i give a user access to a specific sudo command?
[10:32] <_Myself> And the GPU clock ?
[10:32] <Ben64> _Myself: depends on which gpu and drivers you have
[10:33] <_Myself> To be more precisly, i have an IGP, Sis 661FX and im using its drivers at least is what it think.
[10:35] <Ben64> sorry, i don't know anything about SIS and it's horribly obsoleted by now anyway
[10:35] <SwedeMike> Neytiri: I googled for <sudo spedific command> and found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/setting-up-user-to-use-sudo-for-specific-commands-856928/
[10:35] <_Myself> Yes :D
[10:36] <jirido> PatrickDickey: Thank you! first solution in the post seemed to work well :)
[10:37] <Neytiri> i'll give it a look
[10:40] <jirido> beeks: Thanks to you also
[10:41] <jirido> bekks: yes thats your name.. Thanks alot! I'm satisfyed :)
[10:42] <newuser1> guys please help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6737542/
[10:43] <jirido> And say Thanks to PatrickDickey also from me if yoy remember :)
[10:47] <bingo> hello. From the point of view of a gamer wanting to put as much resuorces towards the game and not the OS experience. Which Linux dev do you think is optimal?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> bingo, steamOS
[10:47] <bingo> its not a steam game, does that matter?
[10:48] <adnane_> plz can some one help i cant install symfony on ubuntu
[10:50] <petrus> bingo, archlinux - you have very high level of control over how to build your instance of the OS.
[10:50] <nevyn> bingo: steam chose debian as the basis for their os..
[10:52] <irvingd_> Hi - bit of RAID advice? I've got 2 2TB drives that I want to set up with RAID 1. I'm going to move my home dirs over to this too. Should I do 2 partitions on each drive (1 for/home) and then 2 RAID 1s (one for each partition)?
[10:52] <nevyn> no..
[10:52] <nevyn> irvingd_: I'd suggest a degraded raid5 rather than a raid1
[10:53] <bingo> can i install arch and get online out of the box?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !ot|bingo,
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !arch
[10:53] <Ben64> this is not the correct place to discuss arch
[10:53] <bingo> true ty
[10:54] <irvingd_> nevyn: why's that? because of the partitions or just in general?
[10:54] <bingo> can someone please tell me the arch channel?
[10:54] <nevyn> irvingd_: in general. my preference is a single raid with lvm on top
[10:54] <petrus> bingo, #archlinux
[10:54] <bingo> ty
[10:55] <knightshade> hi
[10:56] <irvingd_> nevyn: ah ok. If I were to stick with RAID 1 though - would the way I suggested above be the way to set up for 2 partitions? Or doesn't that work?
[10:56] <nevyn> so what you're saying will work.
[10:56] <nevyn> but what I'm saying is more flexible and futureproof
[10:57] <nevyn> in particular you can add more space by adding a single 2tb drive to it
[10:58] <nevyn> and partitions are stupid and limiting
[10:58] <nevyn> irvingd_: ^^
[10:58] <irvingd_> nevyn: I didn't really want to partition - but wondering how else to get /home sorted. Still quite noob :) Thought I'd need 2 partitions - 1 for /home and one for everything else
[10:59] <nevyn> irvingd_: partitions are dumb. they're difficult to make bigger reliably
[10:59] <Ben64> irvingd: just a suggestion, but you may want to avoid raid altogether
[10:59] <nevyn> ok this I gotta hear.
[11:02] <marandi> hi guys , i have a huge problem , my graphic chipset is AMD Readeon HD 4550 but ubuntu wouldnt find any driver in Additional Drivers .. what should i do ?!
[11:04] <irvingd_> nevyn: yeah - I'd rather not partition if I can help it. The 2 disks will have home dirs and a huge amount of media files / email / etc. How would I get /home mounted / available without partitioning?
[11:07] <RealNWO> marandi ati has drivres on their homepage
[11:08] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:09] <nevyn> Ben64: what was your suggestion?
[11:09] <vaskozl> looking for the line(s) to change to make AltGr in to Meta_R
[11:09] <vaskozl> currently on /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us
[11:09] <nevyn> irvingd_: do you anticipate needing more storage ever.
[11:09] <Ben64> nevyn: to avoid raid
[11:10] <nevyn> why?
[11:10] <vaskozl> anyone quickly know the answer?
[11:10] <marandi> hi guys , i have a huge problem , my graphic chipset is AMD Readeon HD 4550 but ubuntu wouldnt find any driver in Additional Drivers .. what should i do ?!
[11:10] <irvingd_> nevyn: yes. I think I need to research what degraded raid 5 on 2 disks is though :) How does that help me if one goes pop?
[11:11] <nevyn> irvingd_: so it's the same
[11:11] <nevyn> irvingd_: the advantage is you can extend it on the fly by adding another disk
[11:11] <nevyn> and if you're using lvm as I suggest you can grow the whole thing
[11:11] <nevyn> so it looks like this
[11:12] <nevyn> physical disks with a partition which is type linux autoraid
[11:12] <nevyn> assembled into an md0 which is the pv for an lvm vg which you carve lv's out of for /home and /
[11:13] <irvingd_> nevyn: sounds interesting - esp as I'm likely to have another 2TB disk freed up soon when I move the OS over to SSD
[11:14] <nevyn> irvingd_: so to extend my scheme...
[11:14] <nevyn> you add the new physical to the md0...
[11:14] <nevyn> which becomes a non-degraded 3 disk raid 5
[11:14] <nevyn> (4tb usable)
[11:14] <marandi> help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:15] <nevyn> you then extend the /home lv in lvm using lvextend
[11:15] <nevyn> and extend the filesystem
[11:15] <nevyn> these are all operations that can be performed online while the system is up and in use.
[11:15] <nevyn> irvingd_: ^^
[11:16] <irvingd_> nevyn: I like it. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to go the partition route + raid 1 for now - if nothing else just to learn a bit more about mdadm etc. Then, when the SSD comes thru, I'm gonna do a whole bunch more work and move over to RAID 5 + lvm
[11:17] <irvingd_> yes its a huge waste of effort - but enjoyable :) Really appreciate the advice!
[11:17] <nevyn> noooo...
[11:17] <nevyn> if you get an ssd..
[11:17] <nevyn> you should us dmcache...
[11:17] <nevyn> under lvm.
[11:17] <nevyn> so you have md -> dmcache -> lvm -> /home or /
[11:17] <irvingd_> sorry, I meant raid 5 would be for the 3 2TB disks
[11:18] <nevyn> yeah.
[11:18] <irvingd_> not the ssd
[11:18] <nevyn> so the ssd for dmcache?
[11:19] <irvingd_> it sounds interesting...
[11:19] <irvingd_> but still need a completely isolated part for the OS so can upgrade etc without blowing everything out. Guess just lvm for this?
[11:19] <nevyn> sure.
[11:19] <nevyn> just put the os on a seperate lv
[11:21] <irvingd_> nevyn: sounds fun! so will try the 2 raid 1's (/home, /blah) on the 2 disks today, wait for the ssd and then set up the whole dm-cache, lvm next week :)
[11:21] <nevyn> irvingd_: also. if you do raid 1
[11:21] <_Myself> Oh, had just run "sudo lshw -class video" and saw that my GPU clock is 66Mhz instead of 200
[11:21] <nevyn> you have to back everything up to migrate
[11:21] <_Myself> Any toughts ?
[11:21] <irvingd_> nevyn: but thats ok - I've got more than enough room. By the time im using any serious space, I'll have the raid 5 in place :)
[11:22] <nevyn> hrm. famous last words...
[11:23] <bilegt> check out my final product. http://www.thecutestgeek.com/wildguppy
[11:24] <irvingd_> nevyn: just out of interest though - if you've got multi partitions and thus multi raids - they all still function fine independently? If so - thats good to know - as googling seems a bit sketchy on this
[11:24] <nevyn> yeah. but partitions are sucky limited and inflexible.
[11:25] <irvingd_> nevyn: but only until next week :)
[11:25] <nevyn> lvm is far more elegant it has names instead of numbers.
[11:25] <nevyn> they can be modified on the fly. (shrunk/grown)
[11:25] <nevyn> they can be moved between underlying things on the fly
[11:25] <irvingd_> Gonna cut my teeth on mdadm with the simple dumb set up, and put next w/e aside to do your full suggested setup with dm-cache etc
[11:26] <nevyn> irvingd_: I'd leave raid alone and just do lvm rather than that.
[11:26] <l9> j sickbeard
[11:27] <irvingd_> nevyn: :)  We'll see! Thanks, been really helpful!
[11:27] <_Myself> My GPU isnt running at the excepted clock. 66Mhz instead of 200Mhz
[11:28] <nevyn> _Myself: which gpu with which driver?
[11:29] <_Myself> An IGP to be more precisly, SiS 661/741/760.
[11:29] <_Myself> I just want 2d acceleration and right clock
[11:29] <nevyn> IGP?
[11:30] <_Myself> Yes, integrated, a SiS 661/741/760
[11:36] <_Myself> nevyn, my IGP is SiS 661/741/760
[11:37] <nevyn> no idea...
[11:37] <_Myself> ok
[11:42] <devarsh_revelado> I am trying to connect a (beaglebone )H/W to my ubuntu laptop. for  USB to UART cable i am using to get the consol log output as well. but i am not able to get that. can any1 help me to find out the cause for the same? i am getting consol window using "Screen" but not getting any damn logs on it
[11:42] <_Myself> Whats the command to know my xorg version ?
[11:46] <kohuio>  /join #sunday
[11:46] <glitsj16> _Myself: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "X Server" is one way to find that
[11:55] <_Myself> My IGP/GPU driver were built for other xorg version (7.1), actually i have 7.6 (i think) who recommends me to downgrade ?
[12:00] <_Myself>  My IGP/GPU driver were built for other xorg version (7.1),
[12:00] <_Myself> My IGP/GPU driver were built for other xorg version (7.1),  actually i have 7.6 (i think) who recommends me to downgrade ?
[12:04] <gordonjcp> so how long before 13.10 is out of alpha-test?
[12:05] <glitsj16> gordonjcp: you mean 14.04?
[12:06] <HexSquid> Hello!
[12:06] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, as 13.10 has been released already ...
[12:06] <cfhowlett> HexSquid, greetings
[12:06] <_Myself> My IGP/GPU driver were built for other xorg version (7.1),   actually i have 7.6 (i think) who recommends me to downgrade ?
[12:07] <HexSquid> Hi folks. I'm on Ubuntu-gnome 13.04. When I try to 'Connect to Ubuntu One' from the backup app nothing happens, any ideas?
[12:08] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: before it's been tested?
[12:08] <soo> My system has windows7.  want to take back of C drive only was using REDO backup. should i also include the 100MB partition or not ?
[12:08] <foofoobar> Hi. I just updated to 13.10. My laptop FN-keys work successfull under gnome, however they do not work anymore under i3wm (different window manager). What can I do ?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, 13.10  has been alpha'd, tested, and released already.
[12:12] <cfhowlett> soo, it's only 100 mb?  why NOT include it?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: so they didn't catch all the crippling bugs that render it unusable?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: or did they only test it with people who use en_US keyboards?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: and who never need to play back audio files
[12:15] <glitsj16> _Myself: what is the actual problem you're experiencing? i don't think downgrading your xorg stack is even feasible or advisable ..
[12:16] <soo> cfhowlett: your point of view is right! i was thinking over it because if i restore this partition. Will this create any problem to my system or not. as the 100mb partition is system reserved
[12:16] <_Myself> I have the drivers installed and that, but really dont know if they're working proper
[12:16] <_Myself> My gpu has 66Mhz clock instead what i set in Bios (200Mhz)
[12:17] <cfhowlett> soo, I've not had the pleasure of doing a system restore, but I would think better to have the backup than not.  Sorry, I can't advise better than that
[12:19] <glitsj16> _Myself: i'm not familiar with the SiS, but have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if that reports any excessive warnings or errors?
[12:19] <soo> whiskers75: i agree window sucks!
[12:20] <_Myself> I really dont know how to determine if an error is danger or not, will pastbin
[12:20] <glitsj16> _Myself: what version of ubuntu are you running? and what desktop environment?
[12:22] <_Myself> 12.04 LTS with Xorg and Fluxbox
[12:23] <glitsj16> _Myself: thanks, do pastebin that log file yes
[12:24] <slooblack> hello
[12:24] <_Myself> For some reason i cant select the text propely in Xterm >.<
[12:24] <malinus> I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev : Depends: librtmp-dev but it is not going to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."  when installing libcurl4-openssl-dev, when trying to install librtmp-dev I get " librtmp-dev : Depends: libgnutls-dev but it is not going to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.". Then I'm trying to install libgnutls-
[12:24] <malinus> dev, but then I just get "libgnutls-dev : Depends: libp11-kit-dev (>= 0.4) but it is not going to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[12:25] <malinus> Why does apt-get hate me :(?
[12:26] <glitsj16> _Myself: there's an app you can install that makes that easier .. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit .. that will give you an URL you can show here
[12:31] <malinus> So yeah, which steps can I take to make apt-get behave?
[12:31] <_Myself> http://pastebin.com/kyKingAK
[12:31] <yacc> malinus apt-get install -f
[12:32] <andyfied> malinus: aptitude can deal with broken packages a bit better than apt iirc
[12:32] <malinus> yacc, yeah, already done that. didn't result in anything though.
[12:32] <_Myself> glitsj16
[12:32] <malinus> andyfied, I'm still terrified of aptitude. What should I do?
[12:34] <andyfied> mm, that's i'm not dead sure about
[12:34] <andyfied> but an aptitude update then upgrade might help some bits
[12:34] <goog> how do i get an ip address from a host name?
[12:34] <malinus> goog, host
[12:35] <_Myself> glitsj16
[12:35] <goog> malinus: ah that was easy thanks
[12:35] <malinus> I really don't feel like reinstalling the system just because apt-get can't do its just properly. At this rate I might as well not use any package manager :|
[12:36] <goog> try Docker?
[12:36]  * malinus apt-get purge apt
[12:37] <andyfied> malinus: try sudo aptitude update && upgrade first
[12:37] <malinus> andyfied, yes I've done that too.
[12:37] <andyfied> hmm
[12:38] <glitsj16> _Myself: yes i've taken a look .. there seems to be a problem loading the sis driver, so it falls back to a framebuffer
[12:38] <andyfied> malinus: have you tried to remove the broken packages then reinstall them?
[12:39] <knightshade> malinus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[12:39] <glitsj16> _Myself: besides that it looks good, so you're not in danger of blowing up your machine or anything like that .. you can see that on line 105 of the paste
[12:39] <malinus> knightshade, thanks I'll look into that
[12:39] <_Myself> So what can i do ?
[12:40] <_Myself> I should reinstall xorg ?
[12:41] <glitsj16> _Myself: the problem is with the driver, reinstalling X won't solve that .. i'll have a look around and report if i find any bugs on that
[12:41] <_Myself> Ok thanks
[12:42] <glitsj16> _Myself: can you check if you have the xserver-xorg-video-sis installed? run apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-sis and paste the output please
[12:43] <_Myself> sure sure
[12:44] <glitsj16> _Myself: i think that comes installed by default, but you never know
[12:46] <YaMoonSun> Is there an alternitive installtion disc for ubuntu lts? One that uses the debian installer for systems with less than 1gb of ram?
[12:46] <_Myself> dedicated
[12:46] <_Myself> Kubuntu ?
[12:46] <_Myself> Ubuntu server ?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> YaMoonSun, lubuntu and xubuntu are better for low spec systems
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !mini|YaMoonSun,
[12:49] <_Myself> glitsj16, it is in portuguese but ok, : http://pastebin.com/975GSUNF
[12:51] <glitsj16> _Myself: no problem, i only need to confirm if it is installed
[12:53] <_Myself> Soo ?
[12:54] <glitsj16> _Myself: i see you have the xorg-edgers version installed, which is fine .. unfortunately it looks like you can't really do much about it, as the SiS card is quite esoteric and closed source .. it won't give you 3D hardware acceleration but besides that it seems to work fine
[12:55] <_Myself> Yea, i only need the right clock and 2d acceleration
[12:56] <glitsj16> _Myself: do you have a configuration option with that card, something like sisctrl?
[12:57] <glitsj16> _Myself: "which sisctrl" to find out
[12:57] <_Myself> I really didnt understood
[12:57] <_Myself> I saw an open source driver made for diferent xorg version
[12:57] <_Myself> Will that help ?
[12:59] <glitsj16> _Myself: http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml is the only thing i could find, it is from the developer itself, but that seems to have stopped development in 2009
[12:59] <glitsj16> _Myself: if you have another site with info, please share, perhaps there's more you can do than that i'm finding
[13:00] <_Myself> That is the exactly site i was talking about
[13:00] <_Myself> my english again...
[13:00] <glitsj16> _Myself: no problem, nothing wrong with your engllish, alas the card looks very under-supported
[13:00] <Czupa> Am I the only one whose whose dropbox client can't connect with dropbox?
[13:00] <_Myself> Yea :/
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Czupa, yes.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !details|Czupa,
[13:02] <glitsj16> _Myself: i got the info on the possible sisctrl command from that site .. that's kind of like a GUI configuration tool you could use to set clock etc .. but i'm afraid that's not available on your specific card/driver combo .. running "which sisctrl" would confirm you have that or not
[13:04] <jost> Does someone know a good tool to get data (e.g. font sizes, font names, ...) from a photoshop file? GIMP can't handle text layers, and does not show everything as in the original...
[13:07] <Czupa> sfhowlett; I have problem with dropbox client, I'm running Ubuntu 13.10. This is how tray icon looks like: http://i.imgur.com/Shc8Lzs.png
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Czupa, assuming proper installation, any number of things could be at play - most unrelated to ubuntu.
[13:09] <_Myself> So, glistsj16, i should try the sisctrl ?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Czupa, fwiw, my client connects and I can see the www.dropbox.com from China.
[13:09] <glitsj16> _Myself: if you have it yes, that looks to be the only way you could at least try to configure the card
[13:10] <_Myself> I dont have it, should i download it ?
[13:10] <_Myself> I do sisctrl and nothing, command not found
 Ok so I'll try reinstallation
[13:11] <glitsj16> _Myself: yes i think you're out of luck on this one .. unfortunately .. that site does have the source available, you could try to build it manually
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Czupa, I'd suggest otherwise
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Czupa, delete the configuration folder and reconfigure
[13:11] <_Myself> Actually i only know Lua Script, i need to know C++ to build it ?
[13:13] <glitsj16> _Myself: http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsispart4.shtml#download .. look at #6 .. but it only supports kernel versions 2.4 to 2.6 .. and you don't need to know C++ no, just follow the instructions under #6 on that page
[13:13] <adac> How do I find out which device is the one for the memory card
[13:14] <Czupa> cfhowlett ; .dropbox is the configuration folder, isn't it?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Czupa, correct.  nuke that and restart the configuration process
[13:16] <glitsj16> _Myself: sorry i messed up, it is #7 you need to look at
[13:16] <_Myself> <No problem
[13:16] <glitsj16> _Myself: and #4, which offers a GTK2 tool if you can build it
[13:17] <James0r> trying to install mplayer and getting that i have broken packages. can't resolve it with synaptic. here's the errors i get from synaptic http://dpaste.com/1547710/
[13:18] <Czupa> cfhowlett ; There's unexpected error, when I try to log in. I can login to dropbox web page without any problems.
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Czupa, confusing - error messages?
[13:20] <Ofloo> I wonder, .. I've just noticed that 13.04 is only supported until january this year so 9months, .. however I also noticed that 13.10 stinks and 13.04 is way more stable then 13.10 why is that?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, hardly a technical description of specific issues which might be solvable.  For extended support, install the LTS version; currently 12.04 but 14.04 will be out in 3 months.
[13:21] <Ofloo> I understand lets say the volume bar icon it has been a bug since the release
[13:22] <Czupa> cfhowlett ; It is in my native language so my translation may be the same as in the english version; "An unexpacted error occured. Try again later."
[13:22] <Ofloo> i installed it last week the bug is still there
[13:22] <Ofloo> There is several things wrong with it yet none of witch are solved since the release
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Czupa, huh.  well, try later , certainly.  the fact you can access the website is good.  I'd *guess* the solution is in proper configuration.
[13:23] <Ofloo> No it isn't it there was a if line that was supposed to included whether it was 32bit or 64bit
[13:23] <Ofloo> point is that people sine the release delivered a solution and that it hasn't been implemented bothers me
[13:23] <Ofloo> so makes me wonder
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, I'd *guess* that with the more limited lifespan, more effort is devoted to higher priority bugs.  fixes may or may not be backported.
[13:24] <Ofloo> So I can assume that 14.04LTS is going to be more stable?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, less cutting/bleeding edge, more stable ...
[13:25] <Ofloo> cfhowlett: well i only can assume since it is being released in 3 months as stable
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, my $0.02; unless you have a specific and definite need for the latest/greatest shiny version, just run LTS.  Fewer headaches by far.
[13:27] <cfhowlett> YMMC
[13:27] <cfhowlett> YMMV
[13:28] <Ofloo> cfhowlett: I've been running linux for more then 10years however that hasn't always proven to be true.
[13:28] <fpghost84> Can anyone tell me the purpose of the command "postrotate  invoke-rc.d rsyslog rotate > /dev/null" when using logrotate to rotate logfiles (in my case iptables logs)?
[13:28] <antonio__> 2.Giorni.A.New.York
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, point taken.  Just sayin' that it works well for me.
[13:28] <Ofloo> noted, ..
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !wfm
[13:28] <Yud_Zroc> cfhowlett: I know I am still using 12.04 LTS
[13:29] <Ofloo> I guess i'm going to wait untill 14.04 releases and then find out ;)
[13:29] <Ofloo> thank you for your answers
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, best of luck and hope that the next version is closer to your specifications and expectations
[13:29] <Ofloo> oh if i continue to run 13.04 for like 3months will that mean there's no security updates for the remaining 3 months?
[13:30] <Yud_Zroc> Question: Using the 12.04 Studio Uduntu version. I want steam to start up automatically...how do I correct this issue?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Ofloo, once it hits End of Life that's all she wrote ...
[13:30] <Ofloo> ic then i better downgrade to 12.04
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Yud_Zroc, system settings > Session and startup > application autostart
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> Ofloo: you'll also not be able to install any new software from the repos
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Yud_Zroc, or go into system settings > session and startup and save the session
[13:31] <Ofloo> hitsujiTMO: hmm, ..
[13:31] <Yud_Zroc> cfhowlett: Thankyou
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Yud_Zroc, be safe, have fun
[13:32] <Ofloo> thank you, .. it's kinda fucked cause i just installed the os, .. yesterday and i just have it the way i wanted :p after 13.10 horror week
[13:32] <Ofloo> oh well
[13:32] <Ofloo> thanks anyways
[13:32] <_Myself> glistsj16
[13:33] <glitsj16> _Myself: yes?
[13:33] <Yud_Zroc> Ofloo: I know the feeling, I am using 12,04 but im usoing xfce for studio ubuntu, and I am up to my knees in crash reports lol
[13:34] <_Myself> http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsispart4.shtml Sorry, dont know which instalation guide i should do. Can you tell me the chapter and the sectiion ?
[13:34] <Munster> Ofloo, FWIW I just installed 14.04 here and all seems well , an older desktop but works ok
[13:35] <Yud_Zroc> Munster: How is 14.04?
[13:35] <Ofloo> Munster: maybe i try and run the alpha, .. cause i'll be running it in 3 months anyway
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty
[13:35] <cfhowlett> Munster, older desktops might prefer xubuntu or lubuntu ...
[13:35] <_Myself> Or server versions...
[13:35] <glitsj16> _Myself: sure, look at 4. SiSCtrl (SiS/XGI Display Control Panel) .. it's a longshot though, seeing the source dates back to 2005
[13:36] <Munster> cfhowlett, well 6 yrs old and it's still ticking away here
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Munster, nice!   on vanilla ubuntu?
[13:36] <James0r> can someone help me out? trying to installer mplayer but i'm getting unmet dependencies. apt-get install -f gives me this --> http://dpaste.com/1547841/
[13:36] <Munster> i switched to kde this time, cfhowlett
[13:37] <fpghost84> Anyone know why  one often sees "invoke-rc.d rsyslog rotate > /dev/null" as a postrotate command in logrotate?
[13:39] <antonio__> 2 giorni a new york
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> fpghost84: reloads the config
[13:39] <cfhowlett> antonio__, do you have an ubuntu support questions?
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> !it | antonio__
[13:40] <_Myself> glistsj16, ive found it but didnt found anything about setting the GPU clock on it.
[13:40] <k1l> !list > antonio__
[13:40] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO: I use this command in an iptables rotation script I got from somewhere a while back to rotate my iptables logs, but recently I've noticed from anacron mails:  "The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but rotate is not supported for Upstart jobs."
[13:40] <cfhowlett> hitsujiTMO, is THAT what he was doing?
[13:40] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO: is there a more up to date way to do this config reload with upstart then?
[13:40] <foofoobar> gnome 3.8 removed media key handling from gnome-settings-daemon and moved it to gnome-shell. How can I get this functionality to a different window manager? Is there a way to install the "old" gnome-settings-daemon?
[13:41] <glitsj16> _Myself: too bad, i think you're actually 'lucky' it works at all, i've seen a few bug reports that report the driver segfaults on 12.10 and above .. not very good news i realize that
[13:41] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO:  I can't seem to find any info from ryslog or elsewhere about this "rotate" option
[13:42] <_Myself> Ok, will install it
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> fpghost84: instead use: service rsyslog reload > /dev/null
[13:42] <_Myself> Just really dont know how to do it well >.< sorry
[13:42] <_Myself> Lets query for proper talk ?
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> fpghost84: that was the sysv way to reload. service should be used instead with upstart
[13:43] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO: thank you very much. Do you know where I could read more about these things, I'm somewhat curious...I read the rsyslog man but it didn't shed much light. Maybe I should read more about upstart
[13:43] <glitsj16> _Myself: it's the regular 3 step ./configure .. ./make .. ./make install routine, i can't tell you much more :)
[13:43] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO: thanks, very useful to know
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> !upstart | fpghost84
[13:44] <_Myself> What apps do i need ?
[13:46] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO: thanks ok, so these invoke-rc.d type commands are outdated sys V Init commands, that had various options such as "rotate", but the newer upstart way is simply "service ... reload". Cool
[13:46] <_Myself> glistsj16, what programs do i need ?
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> fpghost84: more or less. lots of changes with upstart as regards the init process mainly, but yeah, use the service command
[13:47] <glitsj16> _Myself: it mentions libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev and libx11-dev .. so install those and give it a shot
[13:47] <Yud_Zroc> Why does ubuntu use OpenJDK instead of the standard JDK from Oracle?
[13:49] <k1l> !away > dziegler_off
[13:49] <glitsj16> _Myself: if you never did any manual building on that machine you'll also need to install build-essential
[13:49] <Burrito> !away > Burrito
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: because the oracle jdk licence doesn't allow for redistribution stupidly enough.
[13:50] <_Myself> ok
[13:51] <fpghost84> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[13:51] <Yud_Zroc> hitsujiTMO: Thats unfortunate for them. Should I worry about developing with OpenJDK for cross platform capabilitys or does that not matter (Ubuntu is my development OS)
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: for the most part it shouldn't matter. But, generally speaking, unless you're developing just for OS that contain OpenJDK then you should stick with the the Oracle JDK, or at a minimum testing on the Oracle JRE. It's not difficult to instll at least
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <- oracle jdk install instructions should be here
[13:56] <Yud_Zroc> hitsujiTMO: thankyou so much...i was about to ask for that.... lol
[13:56] <Vostok_test> Hello, brand new user just testing out Empathy :)
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> !test | Vostok_test
[13:58] <Vostok_test> I've noticed that I'm getting a much slower download speed on torrents than with windows. 400kbs vs. 1mbs .. My ports in Transmission are forwarded correctly, is there anything else that could be causing this?
[13:58] <gordonjcp> Vostok_test: prevailing conditions
[13:59] <Vostok_test> gordon - I'm not sure I understand?
[14:00] <yacc> Anyone using an A2DP headset with Saucy?
[14:01] <Vostok_test> I don't suppose there are any League of Legends players in here are there? ;)
[14:01] <yacc> Vostok_test, torrent download speed can vary greatly over time.
[14:01] <yacc> Vostok_test, it can go from 10MB/s to 0B/s in seconds and back again a minute later, ...
[14:02] <Vostok_test> It can vary greatly with Ubuntu, but bot with Windows?
[14:02] <Vostok_test> not*
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> Vostok_test: depends on the turrent you're downloading and number/quality of seeders vs leechers
[14:03] <Vostok_test> Right, I'm aware of that. Based on the # of peers I should've had a blazing download speed.
[14:03] <Vostok_test> and seeds*
[14:04] <Vostok_test> perhaps it was an isolated incident
[14:05] <freeroute> hi, I want to connect to my home network from the Internet using openvpn, so I tried following this guide (http://www.howtogeek.com/60774/connect-to-your-home-network-from-anywhere-with-openvpn-and-tomato/) but I don't have a router which is capable of having openvpn. So could I install the openvpn server on a machine that I have in my home network?
[14:06] <Vostok_test> I would prefer to use the Deluge client over Transmission, but Deluge gives a warning saying "no incoming connections", depsite the BT port rage being successfully added in router.
[14:07] <freeroute> so basically it's like my computer ---> Internet ---> home router ---> PC running OVPN. Is that possible? Would I then be able to ping machines in my home network from there?
[14:07] <Vostok_test> Is there a trick to show the tabs for a window on ubuntu without maximizing the window?
[14:07] <xsinick> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-ubuntu.html
[14:08] <xsinick> Vostok_test: Linuxmint
[14:08] <xsinick> :)
[14:08] <Vostok_test> is that an alternate distro?
[14:09] <freeroute> Vostok_test: yes it's based on Ubuntu but I have no idea why xsinick recommended that
[14:10] <freeroute> seeing as AFAIK in Mint there are no tabs in windows.
[14:10] <Vostok_test> Ok, so in order for me to see the 'Conversation' - 'Edit' - 'Tabs' - 'Help' menus I have to maximize this window then mouse over the header?
[14:11] <Eagleman> I got an APC UPS and i am controlling the UPS with a seperate Ubuntu machine, there is also an ESXi machine attached to the UPS however i got one problem. When the power goes off and everything shuts down ( both the Ubuntu machine and ESXi machine (ssh) ) if i then replug the power when the UPS went down ( within 30 seconds ) Both machines start up and after a few seconds the UPS switches back
[14:11] <Eagleman> to the battery and then after like 40 seconds the UPS turn off and then on aigan, the same happens and its stuck in a boot loop. I did found a topic on the internet about people having the same issue: http://forums.apc.com/thread/7758 I am now using the script from the user root21, but this isnt the real solution. Does anyone know how i might "fix" the "boot loop" ?
[14:11] <Vostok_test> does my question make sense?
[14:11] <_Myself> how to unpack tar.gz ?
[14:11] <freeroute> Vostok_test: can you take a screenshot?
[14:12] <Vostok_test> is it ctrl+print screen on ubuntu?
[14:12] <xsinick> _Myself:  right click on it and extract here
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> Vostok_test: you mean the menu? thats always in the top bar
[14:12] <_Myself> ubuntu ?
[14:12] <Vostok_test> yes
[14:12] <_Myself> server ?
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> _Myself: tar xf file.tar.gz
[14:12] <_Myself> To a folder
[14:12] <Vostok_test> how do I see top bar menu choices without maximizing the window
[14:13] <xsinick> _Myself:  in command line or desktop
[14:13] <xsinick> ?
[14:13] <freeroute> Vostok_test: I think it's just print scr
[14:13] <_Myself> command line
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> Vostok_test: as long as its the focused window the menu should be there. just gotta mouse over the top bar.
[14:14] <_Myself> like zip file.zip -d directory
[14:14] <_Myself> But with tar.gz
[14:15] <Vostok_test> took screenhot, is there a 'paint' equilivient on ubuntu?
[14:15] <xsinick> _Myself: tar -xzf tar-file-name.tar.gz
[14:16] <Vostok_test> Ok, it's clear that I need to read more about the most basic tasks using ubuntu. I'll do that, then come back if I still have questions. :)
[14:16] <freeroute> Vostok_test: AFAIK it's already saved in the pictures dir
[14:17] <pikaren> is apple a better company compared to nintendo
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | pikaren
[14:18] <freeroute> pikaren: that's like comparing apples to mushrooms
[14:18] <Eagleman> I got an APC UPS and i am controlling the UPS with a seperate Ubuntu machine, there is also an ESXi machine attached to the UPS however i got one problem. When the power goes off and everything shuts down ( both the Ubuntu machine and ESXi machine (ssh) ) if i then replug the power when the UPS went offline ( within 30 seconds ) Both machines start up and after a few seconds the UPS switches
[14:18] <pikaren> exactly
[14:18] <Eagleman> back to the battery and then after like 40 seconds the UPS turns off and then on aigan, the same happens and its stuck in a boot loop. I did found a topic on the internet about people having the same issue: http://forums.apc.com/thread/7758 I am now using the script from the user root21, but this isnt the real solution. Does anyone know how i might "fix" the "boot loop" ?
[14:21] <__raven_> do you know about a way to display a changing textline out of a textfile on a position on the screen? something like a tail -f overlay
[14:23] <_Myself> glistsj16
[14:23] <_Myself> when i do ./configure it shows permission denied various times
[14:24] <_Myself> and cant find blablabla
[14:24] <_Myself> no such file or directory
[14:24] <_Myself> i should chmod ?
[14:25] <glitsj16> _Myself: those instructions seem to assume you're root, i'd try to put the source files in a dir under your ~ and try agazin
[14:25] <glitsj16> _Myself: *again
[14:25] <_Myself> Oh, id forget to type sudo
[14:26] <_Myself> configure: error: ERROR: ***** X11 header (xf86vmode.h) not found ******
[14:26] <_Myself> glistsj16, everything fine only this : configure: error: ERROR: ***** X11 header (xf86vmode.h) not found ******
[14:27] <glitsj16> _Myself: as i said before .. the source for that sisctrl dates back to 2005 .. i'll try to look around if there's something you can do, hang on
[14:27] <_Myself> okok
[14:28] <glitsj16> _Myself: that should be part of libxxf86vm-dev, so also install that
[14:28] <_Myself> okok
[14:30] <_Myself> glistsj16
[14:30] <_Myself> Other error : ERROR: ***** X11 header (Xvlib.h) not found ******
[14:30] <knightshade> _Myself: install libxv-dev
[14:31] <Eagleman> I got an APC UPS and i am controlling the UPS with a seperate Ubuntu machine, there is also an ESXi machine attached to the UPS however i got one problem. When the power goes off and everything shuts down ( both the Ubuntu machine and ESXi machine (ssh) ) if i then replug the power when the UPS went offline ( within 30 seconds ) Both machines start up and after a few seconds the UPS switches
[14:31] <Eagleman> back to the battery and then after like 40 seconds the UPS turns off and then on aigan, the same happens and its stuck in a boot loop. I did found a topic on the internet about people having the same issue: http://forums.apc.com/thread/7758 I am now using the script from the user root21, but this isnt the real solution. Does anyone know how i might "fix" the "boot loop" ?
[14:31] <_Myself> Why dont you make a topic in ubuntu forum ?
[14:31] <_Myself> Eagleman dont use IRC to huge questions or problems >.<
[14:31] <_Myself> It looks like spam
[14:32] <Eagleman> Since when is that a rule...
[14:32] <_Myself> Only a Tip
[14:32] <Eagleman> go annoy someone else
[14:32] <_Myself> kk
[14:33] <knightshade> _Myself: you can use the content search at packages.ubuntu.com to find out wich package you need, if a header file is missing
[14:33] <glitsj16> _Myself: i don't have the hardware and have no clue really on the SiS GPU internals, i just read the same web page as you do :)
[14:33] <knightshade> +h
[14:35] <TJ-> glitsj16: _Myself: I missed the start of the issue, is it to do with the xorg sis driver crashing, or no 2D acceleration?
[14:35] <vanea> Hello
[14:35] <sjgpix> Eagle, you should try powering cycling the machines seperately
[14:35] <josh___> hello
[14:35] <vanea> I have a script http://pastebin.com/Jx8k4aL2 that classifies all files from a folder in subfolders, each subfolder having only 8 files. But I have files with such names 0541_2pcs.jpg. 2pcs means two pieces (copies). so I would like the script to take this into count when dividing files to each folder. e.g. a folder may have 6 files and this 0541_2pcs.jpg which literally means 2 files and so on, depending on the number indicated in 
[14:36] <glitsj16> TJ-: the driver seems to work fine according to _Myself's Xorg.0.log, only without 2D acceleration indeed
[14:36] <vanea> can anyone help me?
[14:36] <TJ-> Eagleman: Let me get this correct: UPS goes offline, server-monitor receives message from UPS and sends shutdown instructions to each server? UPS (now on battery) and PCs restart... and then shutdown almost immediately?
[14:37] <TJ-> glitsj16: _Myself:  see bug #1066464  and the PPA https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/mediahacks/+packages
[14:37] <glitsj16> TJ-: this is his current Xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/kyKingAK
[14:38] <Eagleman> TJ-, no apcupsd detects it is time to shutdown ( TIMEOUT, BATTERYPERCENTAGE or TIMEREACHED ), will shutdown Ubuntu and ssh the other machine to shutdown, will sent kill signal to UPS, UPS turns off after a few seconds, Power of off
[14:38] <Eagleman> of=is
[14:39] <TJ-> Eagleman: OK... and when you power up the UPS and the servers restart they then shutdown again?
[14:39] <glitsj16> TJ-: thanks .. _Myself: seems like there's a more promising route by adding the PPA TJ- showed
[14:40] <TJ-> Eagleman: I'm trying to be clear as to whether the UPS is on battery only, when servers are restarted?
[14:40] <Eagleman> TJ-, power up = line power comes back, UPS turns on, starts up PC's becuase they are configured like that in the bios, when pc boots it falls back to battery in a few secs, and the reboot loop starts
[14:40] <_Myself> I should add the PPA he said ?
[14:40] <TJ-> Eagleman: The UPS falls back to battery? I don't get that? If there is line power why is it falling back to battery?
[14:41] <matthewGA> ew
[14:41] <Eagleman> TJ- becuase something is wrong with the USB cable, if i unplug the usb cable when being in that process, it never falls back to battery
[14:41] <glitsj16> _Myself: yes that seems to be a better approach, worst-case scenario is that it doesn't improve your issue and you can purge the PPA again
[14:41] <TJ-> Eagleman: So isn't that a UPS issue? what model UPS is it?
[14:41] <__raven_> do you know about a way to display a changing textline out of a textfile on a position on the screen? something like a tail -f overlay
[14:41] <Eagleman> TJ- but yeh, im not sure about what is causing it
[14:42] <Eagleman> TJ- Back-UPS Pro 900, also look at: http://forums.apc.com/thread/7758?start=0&tstart=0
[14:42] <Eagleman> TJ- it doesnt happen with Windows and the powerChute software.
[14:43] <Eagleman> TJ- I have had this issue with both CentOS and Ubuntu
[14:45] <_Myself> How can i add that PPA
[14:45] <_Myself> ?
[14:45] <_Myself> >.<
[14:45] <_Myself> I know how to add PPA's but just dont know what the PPA i should add
[14:46] <dveim> how can i run executable file? Used chmod +x on it, but still "permission denied"
[14:46] <glitsj16> _Myself: ppa:dtl131/mediahacks
[14:47] <malinus> dveim, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[14:47] <dveim> malinus: i changed permissions
[14:48] <malinus> dveim, so who is the owner?
[14:48] <dveim> -rw------- 1 dveim dveim  55180 гру 29  2011 matlab
[14:49] <malinus> you need x too
[14:49] <dveim> y
[14:49] <malinus> you only have read and write right now
[14:49] <dveim> but chmod dont change it
[14:50] <malinus> hmpf
[14:50] <knightshade> _Myself: ppa:dtl131/mediahacks
[14:50] <dveim> mb somehow it's linked: this file is located on windows ((rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> dveim: is it on a readonly filesystem?
[14:50] <TJ-> Eagleman: Fascinating... and I'm still reading that thread :)
[14:50] <dveim> result of mount
[14:51] <Eagleman> TJ-, indeed, i've been trying to find a "fix" for this issue for like 2 days straight now
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> dveim: copy it locally. windows filesystems dont have unix permissions
[14:52] <Anton__> hey guys, I have ubuntu 12.04 and my internet works, I can browse the web etc, but my network manager says that there are no network devices available and therefore I can't add a VPN
[14:52] <dveim> hitsujiTMO: ok, actually coping it atm, it's too big
[14:52] <TJ-> Eagleman: The only thing occurs to me right now is that when the PC powers up then some USB ports may have 5VSB applied with a very low current threshold... I'm wondering if the non-standard APC USB connection (it has an RJ45 connector!) is detecting that as some kind of fault condition and shutting down to protect itself
[14:53] <Eagleman> TJ- would i be able to test that?
[14:54] <Eagleman> TJ-, i was on another irc channel last night and someone suggested this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Teralink-ADuM4160-USB-Isolator-board-/261369101784?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item3cdacffdd8
[14:54] <TJ-> Eagleman: You could use a volt/amp meter on the lead I suppose. I'm not suggesting it is the cause, and I'd have thought APC technicians in that thread would know the internals much better than me
[14:54] <Munster> Anton__, install network-manager-vpn* whatever vpn protocol your vpn service runs
[14:55] <TJ-> Eagleman: let me finish reading... its intruguing... just got to page 2
[14:55] <Anton__> Munster I tried but the VPN connection gets greyed out after I've added it
[14:55] <Munster> Anton__, pptp, openvpn or ?
[14:56] <Anton__> openvpn
[14:57] <Anton__> http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/827/3c9b.png and my internet connection works since I can browse the web
[14:58] <Munster> Anton__, so you installed openvpn client and network-manager-openvpn , and received a username and pw from the vpn service , correct ?
[14:58] <Anton__> Munster yes but the problem is that my network manager can't detect my network device even though I can browse the web
[14:59] <TJ-> Eagleman: See post 29 paragraph 4
[15:00] <Anton__> Munster_, and I use a VPS
[15:00] <navin> Hi every one. I am using ubuntu 12.04 now I want to install KDE in that what is the proceedure
[15:00] <Eagleman> TJ-, its very hard for me to understand it since i do have no knowledge of electrical "troubleshooting" and terms.
[15:01] <TJ-> Eagleman: The UPS believes there is an overload on its outputs and shuts down
[15:01] <TJ-> Eagleman: Do these PCs have monitors attached or are they headless?
[15:01] <Munster> Anton__,  open a terminal , run sudo dhclient eth0,  if you're using ethernet
[15:02] <__raven_> do you know about a way to display a changing textline out of a textfile on a position on the screen? something like a tail -f overlay
[15:02] <Eagleman> TJ- headless, i tried touching my pc with the Iron USB Shield, but it stays on 16w
[15:04] <Anton__> Munster it says "cannot find device eth0"
[15:05] <_Myself> TJ, glistsj16, successfully added that PPA, did an update and an upgrade
[15:05] <_Myself> Should i restart or what ?
[15:05] <TJ-> Eagleman: Have you tested the UPS with each PC connected on its own? I'd be interested if one or the other PC causes this... that might help get closer to the root cause
[15:05] <glitsj16> _Myself: yes do
[15:05] <Munster> well , dunno much about vps , so i guess I can't help much , Anton__
[15:06] <Eagleman> TJ- it switches to battery after the PC boots and when it beeps it switches over. doesnt seem to get under 50w
[15:06] <Munster> BBL ...stuff to for a while
[15:07] <TJ-> Eagleman: So this will happen with only 1 PC attached... and both PCs cause it?
[15:07] <glitsj16> _Myself: did you install anything new from that PPA?
[15:08] <Eagleman> TJ- there is currently 1 PC attached, but if i unplug the USB cable just before restoring the power it never switches to the battery
[15:08] <_Myself> 3 things wait
[15:09] <_Myself> Installed this new things : _Myself(+i)] [2:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcjnt)] [Act: 1]
[15:09] <_Myself> [#ubuntu] _Myself(+i)] [2:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcjnt)] [Act: 1]
[15:09] <_Myself> [#ubuntu] Nnosnaono
[15:09] <_Myself> kkk, mistake
[15:09] <TJ-> Eagleman: What I think is happening is there is a design fault in the UPS... I suspect that the earth of the UPS AC outlets is at a slightly different potential to the ground of the internal UPS electronic DC supply... which would cause a difference the overload protection might detect
[15:10] <Eagleman> TJ-, but its not happening on Windows as far as i've tested
[15:10] <_Myself> glistsj16, TJ, installed this new things : cryptsetup-bin libcryptsetup4 mountall
[15:10] <TJ-> Eagleman: I'd be checking the PCs also, to ensure the AC earth is connected well to the motherboard and chassis of the PC
[15:11] <TJ-> Eagleman: What Linux drivers are you using? Those provided by APC or the open-source packages?
[15:11] <Eagleman> TJ- apcupsd
[15:11] <ArthurBorsboom> Hi guys, I like to have some help regarding releasing a newer version of a package. About two months ago, I have released a newer version of a sticky notes application called Xpad. It has been released on Launchpad, but I have a hard time getting it into the repositories.I have contacted some package maintainers, but they do not respond to my emails. Does anybody have a suggestion to get this newer version in the Debian/Ubun
[15:11] <Eagleman> TJ- i've ran both centos and ubuntu and windows on the same pc.
[15:12] <_Myself> glistsj16, TJ, installed this new things : cryptsetup-bin libcryptsetup4 mountall
[15:12] <TJ-> Eagleman: which apcupsd version?
[15:12] <glitsj16> _Myself: those could be dependencies, not sure, the most important thing is either xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-quantal or xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-raring which actually contains an updated or patched driver for your card
[15:12] <_Myself> ok
[15:12] <Eagleman> TJ-, latest wuth apt-get install apcupsd
[15:12] <_Myself> Will restart now then >.<
[15:12] <_Myself> GL MYSELF
[15:13] <glitsj16> _Myself: yeah, goodluck
[15:13] <Pessimist> ArthurBorsboom, you probably contacted the wrong person(s)
[15:13] <ArthurBorsboom> Hi Perssimist...
[15:13] <ArthurBorsboom> I have contacted two people... one is the maintainer of the Debian package, called Bart Martens.
[15:14] <_Myself> BRB
[15:14] <ArthurBorsboom> Does Ubuntu have the same system of package maintainers?
[15:14] <glitsj16> ArthurBorsboom: #ubuntu-packaging might also be able to answer your questions on that if you haven't already tried there
[15:15] <ArthurBorsboom> Ah, thanks that might help. I will join that channel
[15:15] <ArthurBorsboom> I just need a push in the right direction :)
[15:15] <googcheng> hi, pals!   how to install nautilus 3.6 in ub12.04.3 ?
[15:15] <glitsj16> ArthurBorsboom: very welcome, using xpad myself, nice and lightweight
[15:16] <ArthurBorsboom> I like it too, that's why I took control of development and released a newer version, with a lot of bugfixes and some new features.
[15:17] <ArthurBorsboom> If your are interested to see what changed: https://launchpad.net/xpad/trunk/4.2
[15:17] <googcheng> nautilus 3.4 makes high cpu for kernel3.10.18 in 12.04
[15:17] <glitsj16> ArthurBorsboom: good to know that thank you
[15:17] <glitsj16> i'm still on the 4.1
[15:18] <ArthurBorsboom> Yeah 4.1 is the latest one in the repositories... exactly my point :)
[15:18] <ArthurBorsboom> I try to get it into the Debian/Ubuntu repositories, but until now, I fail to do so... which is a waste of development time ;)
[15:19] <ArthurBorsboom> I am new to the release procedure, so therefore I need a little help.
[15:20] <glitsj16> ArthurBorsboom: i understand, hopefully someone in #ubuntu-packaging can help getting things moving, especially for the upcoming 14.04 LTS
[15:20] <ArthurBorsboom> For now there is no response in #ubuntu-packaging... do you have other suggestions?
[15:22] <_Myself> Bac
[15:22] <glitsj16> ArthurBorsboom: not really sorry, i'm just a user volunteering on this channel
[15:22] <TJ-> Eagleman: Have you/are you able to test the UPS with a laptop/notebook with the USB cable connected to see if that does the same thing?
[15:22] <_Myself> glitsj16
[15:22] <_Myself> Still getting that error at the log
[15:22] <MarkDavies> Hi
[15:22] <_Myself> Can i remove the driver and then install it from a specific repo ?
[15:23] <ArthurBorsboom> No problem. You at least helped me in providing a new channel.. :)
[15:23] <MarkDavies> can I safely use gparted to modify partitions on a disk from which I booted a system (assuming that I don''t modify the boot partition)?
[15:23] <glitsj16> _Myself: argh, seems a stubborn card to get going
[15:23] <_Myself> So, can i ?
[15:24] <_Myself> Or should i ?
[15:24] <TJ-> Eagleman: From everything I've read I suspect 2 things are coinciding: 1) the apcupsd USB driver isn't toggling some flag on the UPS when it shuts down (which the Windows driver is doing) and 2) a temporary leakage current from the PC to the UPS via the chassis ground is causing spurious overload protection to cut in
[15:24] <glitsj16> _Myself: that seems to be the only PPA that offers the sis driver so you can only drop back to what precise offers by purging the PPA
[15:25] <daftykins> MarkDavies: it's really not that much work to boot a LiveCD, so just play it safe
[15:25] <_Myself> No, xorg edgers or something has that drivers too
[15:26] <glitsj16> _Myself: i assume you added xorg-edgers because the original driver in precise also didn't work good for you?
[15:26] <_Myself> yes
[15:26] <_Myself> also i have the X-something repo too
[15:26] <_Myself> lemme check
[15:26] <glitsj16> _Myself: x-swat?
[15:26] <MarkDavies> daftykins: OK. And the second question: applications like "gparted" tell me that one needs to be root in order to run them. But then Ubuntu doesn't even have root user. How can I deal with it nicely?
[15:27] <Eagleman> TJ- and 2) a temporary leakage current from the PC to the UPS via the chassis ground is causing spurious overload protection to cut in
[15:27] <TJ-> _Myself: glitsj16: I'd recommend using "apt-cache policy <package-name>" to confirm *which* package is installed
[15:27] <_Myself> X-Updates
[15:27] <Eagleman> So it must be suggestion 1)
[15:28] <MarkDavies> shoud I use sudo privileges?
[15:28] <TJ-> Eagleman: Could be both... do you get the same issue with a laptop/notebook attached (try with it taking power from the UPS, and being totally unplugged)
[15:28] <_Myself> Whats the name of the driver ? ( xorg-blablCa-bla-sis )
[15:28] <_Myself> package*
[15:28] <Eagleman> TJ- Laptop with windows or linux
[15:28] <Eagleman> ?
[15:29] <TJ-> Eagleman: The 'flag' I propose could be a "temporarily ignore overload state when restarting" thing
[15:29] <__raven_> do you know about a way to display a changing textline out of a textfile on a position on the screen? something like a tail -f overlay
[15:29] <Darin_1> I can't seem to figure out last version of Ubuntu that supported SquashFS 3.1
[15:29] <Eagleman> TJ- Laptop with windows or linux? i got 2 laptops with both windows
[15:30] <_Myself> glitsj16
[15:30] <_Myself> Whats the name of driver package ?
[15:30] <MarkDavies> OK, it's enough tu use sudo application
[15:30] <_Myself> xorg-video-something-sis ?
[15:30] <glitsj16> _Myself: xserver-xorg-video-sis .. follow TJ-'s advice and check with .. apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-si*
[15:30] <TJ-> Eagleman: Linux, so you can replicate the same scenario
[15:30] <_Myself> Yes, what im doing
[15:30] <ArthurBorsboom> @glitsj16: thanks mate... I am in contact in ubuntu-packaging... leaving this channel now.
[15:31] <Eagleman> TJ-, yeh that wont be an option, maybe if i install it on a usb stick
[15:31] <glitsj16> _Myself: paste the output of that so we can confirm
[15:31] <Eagleman> Which failed last time
[15:31] <_Myself> Sure
[15:31] <glitsj16> ArthurBorsboom: no trouble, best of luck with the developing
[15:33] <glitsj16> __raven_: conky should be able to do that
[15:33] <TJ-> Eagleman: Use a liveISO on a USB stick? Also, please check the grounding... see this article: http://www.schneider-electric.us/support/index?page=content&country=US&lang=EN&id=FA157422
[15:33] <lolcat> Hello
[15:33] <lolcat> is there an easy way to setup ati graphics?
[15:33] <lolcat> graphics is dead now so I cant really google
[15:34] <_Myself> http://pastebin.com/Zh5EanXW
[15:34] <_Myself> There it is
[15:36] <lolcat> _Myself: ...
[15:36] <lolcat> I dont have a browser
[15:36] <TJ-> _Myself: glitsj16 Looks to me as if the PPA I suggested isn't even available as an option, which would explain why there is no improvement
[15:36] <_Myself> What ?
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: have you the driver installed?
[15:37] <lolcat> I tried installing fglrx but now I donno
[15:37] <glitsj16> _Myself: looks like you still have the xorg-edgers driver installed and running, try to temporarily purge that PPA or download the .deb from the mediahacks PPA and install that thru .. sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/deb
[15:37] <TJ-> _Myself: That output shows you're using the Xorg Edger's driver... which most likely will not contain the patch that has been applied to the package in the other PPA
[15:37] <MarkDavies> lolcat: dpkg --list | grep fglrx
[15:38] <glitsj16> TJ-: yes i just noticed that, appreciate the input
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: can you run the following: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:38] <_Myself> so mannually install the deb package or purge xedger ppa ?
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: and copy the url it generates to here
[15:38] <lolcat> sure, two seconds
[15:38] <_Myself> will purge xedgers PPA
[15:39] <glitsj16> _Myself: the xorg-edgers PPA probably offers you much more packages, it is up to you to decide if you need all those
[15:39] <lolcat> paste.ubuntu.com/6739143
[15:39] <lolcat> _Myself: I installed at least one ppa
[15:40] <lolcat> not sure what it was named
[15:40] <Eagleman> TJ- give me like 20 minutes
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: can you also give us the output of: date
[15:41] <TJ-> Eagleman: OK... I'm still reading up on other possibilities
[15:41] <Eagleman> TJ-, if i dont get this issue solved before the 26th, i will send this UPS back
[15:44] <lolcat> hitsujiTMO: sø. 12. jan 16:44:00
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: is this a desktop or laptop?
[15:45] <lolcat> Now lightdm starts but when I enter my password it doesnt do anything
[15:45] <schnitzl> hwoto add with ufibootmgr a win8.1 entry?
[15:45] <lolcat> hitsujiTMO: laptop
[15:45] <MarkDavies> Has somebody managed to set up wifi for Ubuntu without that manager from KDE environment?
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: ok, atm its loading the intel driver so you should at least have something on the screen.
[15:48] <lolcat> hitsujiTMO: I get to lightdm now
[15:48] <navin> Hi I want to install KDE How to do it ?
[15:49] <schnitzl> !kde > navin
[15:49] <schnitzl> !kde > schnitzl
[15:50] <schnitzl> mm. worked. hehe
[15:50] <schnitzl> howto add with ufibootmgr a win8.1 entry?
[15:50] <Steakumz> Good morning!
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: ok. as far as i know, to switch to the dedicated gpu you must run: sudo aticonfig --px-dgpu && sudo service lightdm restart        and to switch back to the intel gpu run: sudo aticonfig --px-igpu && sudo service lightdm restart
[15:52] <Steakumz> !test
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> lolcat: you should also be able to switch in the AMD Catalyst Control Center
[15:53] <Eagleman> Why am i not able to install packages by using apt-get using the LiveISO of ubuntu?
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: you may need to add sources and run sudo apt-get update first.
[15:53] <Eagleman> Which sources?
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: have a look what defined in /etc/apt/sources.list          if its only main, then you may need to add: restricted universe multiverse
[15:55] <Eagleman> in which one is apcupsd in?
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: universe
[15:58] <TJ-> schnibbl0r: "efibootmgr -b $BOOTNUM -c -l /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi -L 'Windows 8.1'  "  ... and assign the appropriate boot entry number to BOOTNUM
[15:58] <schnitzl> TJ-, guess you mean me?
[15:58] <TJ-> schnitzl: Yes, sorry... tab-complete is annoying sometimes
[15:59] <Eagleman> hitsujiTMO, how would i add it?
[15:59] <schnitzl> TJ-, yea. :D same here. okay...gonna try  that one. give me a min
[15:59] <TJ-> Eagleman: It's in "universe"
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: just edit the line and append universe after main
[15:59] <funkt> ANYONE HERE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HEADERS AND LIBRE OFFICE? i KEEP CHANGING MY HEADER AND IT SEEMS TO CHANGE EVERY HEADER ON THE DOCUMENT I JUST WANT ONE HEADER FOR EACH PAGE AND ITS DOING MY SWEDE IN COULD ANYONE HELP?
[16:00] <TJ-> funkt: Headers/Footers belong to Sections; create a new section for each different header you require
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: so instead of the line: """deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main""" have it """deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe"""
[16:00] <kostkon> !caps | funch
[16:00] <kostkon> oops
[16:01] <Eagleman> Yeh, but the terminal is spamming errors in my face
[16:01] <kostkon> !caps | funkt
[16:01] <funkt> how do I use a section in libre office?
[16:01] <funkt> yeah cheers
[16:01] <kostkon> funch, sorry
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: what errors exactly?
[16:01] <schnitzl> ok. TJ-  its a little more complicated than i thought. i dont have yet the /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/blah files and/or directories. the win8.1 system partition came from an image backup done with clonezilla. is there anyway to fix that?
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: can you pastebin the current /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:02] <heavyammo> Hey, could anyone tell me a Ubuntu OCR text recognition piece of software please?
[16:02] <schnitzl> plan is to just  restore win8.1 with clonezilla then add it to efi.
[16:02] <Eagleman> no i cant since i am on the liveiso
[16:02] <_Myself> Oh
[16:02] <_Myself> Im back
[16:02] <TJ-> schnitzl: Yeah... look in the \Windows\boot\EFI\ directory; you can copy that directory directly to the EFI system partition
[16:02] <_Myself> TJ
[16:02] <funkt> Got it many thanks!!!!
[16:03] <_Myself> TJ, i was not here
[16:03] <malimbar> Hello! I'm looking for help to reset lightdm - I screwed around with configuratoin files nad now it's completely broken (had to install gdm just to login)
[16:03] <_Myself> glitsj16
[16:03] <schnitzl> TJ-, ok. this will take me some time since i first have to restore that win stuff. thx man. i will call in when i am done
[16:03] <_Myself> The Purge command only removes the Repo right ???
[16:03] <Eagleman> hitsujiTMO, its not working when adding universe
[16:04] <rob_____1> uit
[16:04] <rob_____1> quit
[16:04] <glitsj16> _Myself: hi again, purging a PPA also drops the packages from that PPA back to their original versions from the regular ubuntu repos
[16:04] <rob_____1> how do i quit with irssi
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman: can you try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:05] <TJ-> Eagleman: the line will be something like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy main universe"   and then you must do "sudo apt-get update"
[16:05] <_Myself> ok, but i added the Repo by sources.list
[16:05] <_Myself> Not by PPA
[16:05] <Eagleman> TJ- i got that
[16:05] <TJ-> Eagleman: what version of Ubuntu is it?
[16:05] <Eagleman> 12.04.3365477235742
[16:06] <Eagleman> something like that D:
[16:06] <Eagleman> Alright it works now, was about to jump out of my window
[16:06] <_Myself> glitsj16
[16:06] <malimbar> is there a way to completely reset lightdm to default settings?
[16:07] <glitsj16> _Myself: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-sis, we can check what you have right now and look into the PPA situation later on
[16:07] <TJ-> malimbar: Maybe "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" but not sure it'll remove any custom entries in the config files; check out also the files in "/etc/lightdm/"
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> malimbar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[16:08] <malimbar> TJ-, should I just delete the files in /etc/lightdm?
[16:09] <_Myself> glitsj16
[16:09] <_Myself> http://pastebin.com/975GSUNF
[16:10] <glitsj16> _Myself: still showing driver from xorg-edgers .. we need to take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list if you added that manually in there, sp pastebin that also
[16:10] <TJ-> malinator: No!
[16:11] <TJ-> malimbar: No!
[16:11] <apb1963> Anyone have java working on chrome?  I'm unable to get java to work.  ubuntu 12.04.3
[16:11] <malimbar> well, good thing I didn't do that
[16:11] <Eagleman> TJ- got my Live USB now, what did i had to test?
[16:12] <_Myself> So Yes i added mannually at sources
[16:12] <_Myself> Should i remove it ?
[16:13] <_Myself> glitsj16
[16:13] <_Myself> So Yes i added mannually at sources
[16:13] <_Myself> Should i remove it ?
[16:14] <glitsj16> _Myself: that's not the recommended way to add a PPA so i'm not sure on this one .. let's see .. if it was me i would comment out the xorg-edgers line in /etc/apt/sources.lis and add the PPA first thru regular means, then purge it with sudo ppa-purge .. seek confirmation on this here before doing so, as i'm not sure
[16:15] <_Myself> okok
[16:17] <glitsj16> _Myself: the logic being that if you just comment out the xorg-edgers line you're apt isn't actually going to downgrade anything back and you still won't see the driver package you need to install .. you can work around this though but this routine should be a lot safer
[16:17] <malimbar> hitsujiTMO I'm trying the one you gave and restarting with lightdm.
[16:17] <geeks> which is the best flight simulator for Ubuntu Linux
[16:18] <gordonjcp> geeks: flightgear
[16:19] <geeks> What should be the Specs of computer to run the flightgear??
[16:22] <Eagleman> TJ-, i attached the laptop to my ups, installed everything, and i am now simulating a power outage
[16:22] <TJ-> glitsj16: If the bug-fix PPA has been added you can force that package to be installed using "sudo apt-get install <package-name>=<exact-version-string>" ... "apt-cache policy <package-name>" will obtain the exact version string
[16:22] <TJ-> Eagleman: Yay :)
[16:23] <Eagleman> TJ-, after the UPS went off i booted up my laptop, and the UPS went to battery once aigan
[16:23] <Eagleman> it will soon get cut off from power
[16:24] <TJ-> Eagleman: Is that with the laptop taking power from the UPS
[16:24] <glitsj16> TJ-: yes thanks, just waiting on _Myself to give the go ahead
[16:24] <Eagleman> Yes
[16:24] <Eagleman> but ofcurse the laptop still has a bettery
[16:24] <Eagleman> battery
[16:24] <TJ-> Eagleman: Can you try it again with the laptop not connected to the UPS power outlets?
[16:25] <Eagleman> TJ- with the ups cable still attached?
[16:25] <Eagleman> usb*
[16:25] <TJ-> Eagleman: Yes... having its own battery is useful since the laptop should continue logging any output from the UPS into the apcups log file... we hope!
[16:25] <TJ-> Eagleman: Yes, with USB attached
[16:25] <Eagleman> TJ- dont expect to much from logs, there is almost no usefull info
[16:25] <nico_> hello, is somewhere where I could speak french ? :)
[16:25] <Eagleman> TJ- and with the USB cable still attached it will still shutdown the laptop
[16:25] <TJ-> Eagleman: Really? well you might get some overload warning logged
[16:26] <_Myself> Will be right back
[16:26] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-fr | nico
[16:26] <glitsj16> !fr | nico_
[16:26] <nico_> thank you !
[16:26] <glitsj16> nico_: ce n'est rien, bon chance
[16:26] <Eagleman> TJ- and with the USB cable still attached it will still shutdown the laptop
[16:27] <Eagleman> So i am not sure what you want
[16:28] <TJ-> Eagleman: The scenario you need to set-up is: USB cable connected. Laptop on battery power, not connected to UPS outlet. Use something like apctest to simulate the power-down so the UPS gets the shutdown signal but the laptop stays running... then when you restore power to the UPS the laptop can log all messages immediately
[16:28] <_Myself> BRB
[16:28] <malimbar> hitsujiTMO, that didn't seem to work. lightdm still doesn't load, and comes up with the error
[16:29] <TJ-> Eagleman: I think it'll be option #1 in apctest
[16:29] <Anton__> My network manager doesn't detect any networking devices even though my internet works and I can browse the web. This is a problem since any VPN that I add gets greyed out - http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/827/3c9b.png
[16:29] <b3knn_> would you use LVM when installing ubuntu 13.10 server virtually ?
[16:30] <Eagleman> TJ- amd if there are no logs?
[16:30] <Anton__> I use a VPS
[16:30] <general> hiii
[16:30] <TJ-> Eagleman: I see in "man apctest" there is interesting info against "option 7)" ... about adjusting sensitivity to avoid the UPS switching to batteries.
[16:30] <TJ-> Eagleman: Tell it to log more!
[16:31] <general> what <???
[16:31] <demoneye> lo
[16:31] <Eagleman> TJ- i am afraid we can troubleshoot all we want, but will never find a solution, i am loosing hope
[16:31] <aagh> is there a channel dedicated to UEFI problems_
[16:31] <aagh> ?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> malimbar: can you: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[16:31] <general> :p
[16:32] <Eagleman> TJ- i adjusted sensitivity before, didnt help
[16:32] <TJ-> Eagleman: That's good to know
[16:32] <glitsj16> !alis | aagh: not sure but you can search for it
[16:33] <TJ-> Eagleman: I'd suggest you post to the apcupsd user mailing list with this; especially pointing out how using the Windows USB drivers the UPS behaves on restart but using the apcupsd USb driver the UPS seems to go into an overload protection mode
[16:34] <aagh> GRUB UEFI installation guides talk about grub2-install which isn't included in packages and the ones that only mention the available grub-install talk about --target option which doesn't exist
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> malimbar: that should generate a url at the end. just copy the url here
[16:34] <Eagleman> TJ- i will never get the answer in time, i can bring back this UPS and get my money back within 2 weeks
[16:34] <Eagleman> OMFG
[16:35] <Eagleman> didnt restart the apcupsd service and now it shutdown, another 5 minutes to waste
[16:35] <TJ-> aagh: "grub2-install" is written purely to make it clear that "grub-install" v1 cannot do UEFI boot manager stuff
[16:35] <malimbar2> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/zdKiiwCn
[16:36] <aagh> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB_EFI_Examples#K450_IdeaCentre look at the end of the page
[16:36] <TJ-> aagh: If you've installed GRUB v2 the "grub-install" has the "--target" option
[16:36] <aagh> oh
[16:36] <TJ-> aagh: "apt-cache policy grub2"
[16:36] <saskslayer> I removed xorgedgers from sources.list, added xorgedgers throught PPA, removed throught ppa-purge and still cant upgrade the drivers. Any thoughts
[16:37] <saskslayer> glitsj16
[16:37] <TJ-> aagh: Have you got the UEFI system partition mounted at /boot/efi/ ?
[16:37] <saskslayer> I removed xorgedgers from sources.list, added xorgedgers throught PPA, removed throught ppa-purge and still cant upgrade the drivers. Any thoughts
[16:37] <saskslayer> ?
[16:37] <jacob_> does anyone have any experience running robocode on ubuntu 13.10? i downloaded it but it doesn't launch
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> malimbar: is this ubuntu or kubuntu or which?
[16:38] <glitsj16> saskslayer: ow you're back .. so what does apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-* output now?
[16:38] <basic6_> how could i fix this error (upgrading mint 15 -> 16)? http://paste.debian.net/75773/ (libmatekbd-common)
[16:38] <m-jr> Hello,everyone .Happy to join the group.
[16:38] <aagh> TJ-: I have it mounted at /media/fuevoiqnquivn/boot/efi
[16:38] <ZeroDivided> Hello, is there a guide for updating the AMD Catalyst drivers? Can I just run the installer, or do I need to uninstall anyting?
[16:39] <saskslayer> glitsj16
[16:39] <saskslayer> Oh sorry
[16:39] <gordonjcp> so short of ditching 13.10 altogether, is there a way round the crippling keyboard layout bug?
[16:39] <aagh> TJ-: I'm using Ubuntu Live CD
[16:39] <bekks> gordonjcp: Which bug? Never experienced it.
[16:39] <TJ-> aagh: OK, you'll need to use "--efi-directory" then
[16:39] <gordonjcp> bekks: it switches to en_US every few seconds
[16:40] <Beldar> basic6_, Mint has their own channels and support. This error is a perfect example why it's not supported here, mate is not even in the ubuntu repos.
[16:40] <aagh> yes, I was looking to using the line I on that page I linked
[16:40] <gordonjcp> bekks: 13.10 is completely unusable because of it, on a variety of different machines
[16:40] <aagh> -I
[16:40] <bekks> gordonjcp: Never experience it, on various machines.
[16:40] <saskslayer> glitsj16
[16:40] <gordonjcp> bekks: oh well
[16:41] <glitsj16> saskslayer: yes?
[16:41] <gordonjcp> 13.10 is a disaster
[16:41] <kb94> anyone can help me on dd command to repair my write protected flash drive ? :(
[16:41] <bekks> kb94: If it is write protected, dd will not be able to write on it.
[16:41] <gordonjcp> between the keyboard bug, the corrupt fonts bug, and the various other weird issues
[16:41] <saskslayer> It is xserver-xorg-video-sis or xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-* ???
[16:41] <gordonjcp> kb94: is there a write-protect switch?
[16:41] <kb94> no
[16:42] <gordonjcp> kb94: is it made by Sandisk?
[16:42] <malimbar2> hitsujiTMO, default ubuntu, though I played with kde and gnome-shell installs on top of it, deleted them, and then tried to change settings manually when lightdm didn't look right
[16:42] <gordonjcp> kb94: possibly with a different logo
[16:42] <kb94> yes
[16:42] <gordonjcp> kb94: throw it away
[16:42] <kb94> ???
[16:42] <glitsj16> saskslayer: the new PPA offers xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-quantal and xserver-xorg-video-sis-lts-raring for precise but they seem exactly the same so install either one of those
[16:42] <gordonjcp> kb94: they are total shite
[16:42] <kb94> :(
[16:42] <gordonjcp> kb94: they last a couple of dozen writes, before they fail
[16:42] <gordonjcp> kb94: they're a complete waste of money
[16:43] <bekks> gordonjcp: SANDisk cads do work here for years - flawlessly.
[16:43] <gordonjcp> bekks: cards yes, USB sticks no
[16:43] <bekks> gordonjcp: usb stick do work here too, flawlessly.
[16:43] <gordonjcp> bekks: every single one we've had, has failed
[16:43] <gordonjcp> bekks: all sooner rather than later
[16:43] <gordonjcp> different sizes, different batches
[16:43] <bekks> gordonjcp: Not a single one we had died in years.
[16:43] <gordonjcp> bekks: <shrug>
[16:44] <andyfied> i've never had a failed sandisk and i got 3 USB, 2 SD and 2 mp3 players
[16:44] <Beldar> gordonjcp, You should know better then fud and personal opinions and partially hidden swearing here.
[16:44] <saskslayer> glitsj16
[16:44] <gordonjcp> bekks: every single one we've had
[16:44] <kb94> gordonjcp: flash drive contain some garbage data and a hot girl's photo whom I don't know
[16:44] <glitsj16> gordonjcp: if you don't rely on en_US layout you might try to remove that layout alltogether through the system settings > keyboard layout
[16:44] <saskslayer> Didnt get it
[16:44] <gordonjcp> kb94: oh well
[16:44] <gordonjcp> glitsj16: I have
[16:44] <saskslayer> Cant we use /query ?
[16:44] <glitsj16> saskslayer: yes
[16:44] <gordonjcp> glitsj16: it makes no difference, it constantly switches back to en_US
[16:44] <gordonjcp> bekks: in the last year I threw out 1600 faulty Sandisk USB sticks
[16:45] <kb94> gordonjcp: i tried the dd command, but it gives me an error : Read Only File System
[16:45] <bekks> gordonjcp: We didnt throw out a single one.
[16:45] <gordonjcp> bekks: Sandisk took the first ten or so back and replaced them, but the replacements failed too - then they didn't want to know any more
[16:45] <bekks> kb94: dd on a readonly filesystem will not work.
[16:45] <gordonjcp> kb94: yup, it's knackered
[16:45] <glitsj16> gordonjcp: strange indeed, i'm still on 13.04 waiting to jump to 14.04, also many issues on 13.10
[16:45] <bekks> kb94: Either mount the filesysten as read write, or dont5 write onto it.
[16:46] <kb94> how to mount it as read/write ?
[16:46] <gordonjcp> glitsj16: this is by far the most annoying one
[16:46] <bekks> kb94: sudo mount -o remount,rw ...
[16:46] <gordonjcp> kb94: if "sudo mount -o remount,rw /path/to/disk /path/to/mountpoint" doesn't do it, nothing will
[16:46] <gordonjcp> kb94: it most likely is faulty
[16:47] <Eagleman> TJ- as expected no usefull logs
[16:47] <Andreas> are there paid programmers working on ubuntu or just pure volunteer work? how they make the money?
[16:47] <schnitzl> Andreas, wikipedia?
[16:47] <Beldar> Andreas, Canonical has some paid staff.
[16:47] <Eagleman> TJ-, brb gonna eat for 30 mins
[16:48] <kb94> thanks a lot gordonjcp,bekks and others. I'll try this
[16:50] <jimi_> Is there any issues doing   vga monitor -> dvi adapter -> pc ?   i tried it this morning and the screen went all wonky
[16:51] <Pessimist> jimi_, should it be the other way?
[16:51] <Pessimist> shouldn't*
[16:51] <Andreas> canonical ltd soon at breaking point for profitability and money made by service provision (wiki)
[16:51] <jimi_> Pessimist, what do you mean?
[16:51] <TJ-> Eagleman: OK... it looks like a systemic problem
[16:52] <bekks> Andreas: Thats a very good issue for #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:52] <kb94> mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected
[16:52] <bekks> kb94: Then replace the entire device, it is broken.
[16:53] <Pessimist> jimi_, pc is a video source, not the monitor. Also this isn't a ubuntu related issue
[16:53] <jimi_> Pessimist, yeah, cause it works fine in windows, but only goes wonky in ubuntu
[16:55] <kb94> sandisk sucks
[16:56] <jhutchins> jimi_: Pay attention to what the resolution and scan rates are in windows and what driver it's using, any other details, then work with something like xvidtune or xrandr to get the same settings in Ubuntu.
[16:57] <telec> hello. i'm trying to use my cellphone as modem, but it not work
[16:58] <Pessimist> have you tried it off and on again?
[16:58] <telec> [14603.390080] cdc_acm 2-1.2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[16:58] <jacob_> E: Cannot find JRE, exiting..
[16:58] <jacob_> can anyone help me with this?
[16:58] <telec> dmesg
[16:58] <telec> ttyACM0 dont exists in /dev
[16:59] <Kitsune>  /msg NickServ identify liverpool
[16:59] <Kitsune> why is ubuntu download mirror so slow
[16:59] <Pessimist> Kitsune, we saw your password
[16:59] <DJones> Kitsune: Maybe new password time
[16:59] <Kitsune> didnt work anyway
[17:00] <Munster> Kitsune, do those nickserv commands in the server textbox
[17:00] <b3knn_> no
[17:00] <telec> dmesg shows ttyACM0 but it not exists :/
[17:01] <xvzf> hi there I upgraded 13.04->13.10 now network is broken. The system continuously reports System Program Error (translated from my language to English). What can I do to have network and do an apt-get update? nmcli dev list shows only bluetooth and wlan but not eth0.
[17:04] <TJ-> xvzf: What does "/etc/network/interfaces" contain?
[17:04] <xvzf> TJ-, a moment
[17:07] <xvzf> auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback
[17:08] <xvzf> TJ-, did you get interfaces content?
[17:09] <TJ-> xvzf: OK, that looks fine, it isn't interfering with Network Manager
[17:09] <TJ-> xvzf: does "ifconfig -a" list any interfaces with names starting with "eth"  ?
[17:10] <hcumberdale> Hi there :
[17:10] <xvzf> TJ-, yes, eth0 is the first
[17:10] <hcumberdale> Having problems with ginn. It won't find negative values for my touchscreen.
[17:10] <TJ-> xvzf: OK ... so there is an interface... so the likely problem is that network-manager isn't configuring it
[17:11] <hcumberdale> so for example only zoom in PINCH mode is working :(
[17:11] <TJ-> xvzf: Are there any "Wired connection ..." files in "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/" ?
[17:12] <ubuntu> what is the programming channel ?
[17:12] <Guest78231> what's the programming channel
[17:13] <xvzf> TJ-, no, but now the eth cable is in this computer I use to irc. Should I try to plug it into the machine in question and see the mentioned directory?
[17:14] <TJ-> xvzf: Are there any files in that "system-connections" directory?
[17:15] <Evidlo> Is it possible this pulseaudio error is preventin me from logging in? "Denied access to client with invalid authorization data."
[17:15] <TJ-> xvzf: If not, you'll need to plug in the cable and that should cause a new connection to be created. If it doesn't then manually create a wired connection in NM
[17:15] <xvzf> TJ-, there are 17 files
[17:15] <xvzf> now try the cable
[17:16] <xvzf> come in some minutes
[17:17] <Runkle> good morning
[17:17] <Runkle> for some reason, when my system boots, lightdm starts up.. then dies.
[17:18] <Runkle> if i run service lightdm as root, it'll start up and work just fine. so i'm kinda stumped
[17:18] <hcumberdale> Runkle: error in x-server config? watched logs?
[17:19] <Runkle> doing so now
[17:19] <unknown_> Where can I find a programming irc (c++)
[17:19] <Runkle> the logs just have a +xx seconds,
[17:19] <Runkle> unknown_: a c++ channel ? tried #c++ ?
[17:19] <unknown_> nope not yet thanks anyway
[17:19] <Runkle> hcumberdale: not an actual timestamp.. so thats weird.
[17:20] <hcumberdale> Runkle: that's okay. Logs might begin with [ XX.XXX]
[17:20] <Runkle> hcumberdale: is that tiemstamp relative to boot, or relative to last time i tried to start x?
[17:20] <hcumberdale> watched /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[17:20] <Runkle> yeah, i'm in there now.
[17:20] <Evidlo> I'm having trouble with lightdm, too.  In my lightdm log, it shows a successful login, but then X just quits and lightdm comes back up.  This happens for all my wm's.
[17:20] <hcumberdale> seeing any error message?
[17:21] <Runkle> unable to register client with session manager. that resulted in a 100+ page forum thread :)
[17:21] <xvzf> TJ-, I see no NetworkManager icon in the menu bar where it used to be, but when I try sudo NetworkManager it says that it is running already. How can I configure that?
[17:21] <hcumberdale> Runkle: what caused the behaviour? update? fresh install?
[17:22] <donvito> ftp> send oscam.conf
[17:22] <donvito> local: oscam.conf remote: oscam.conf
[17:22] <donvito> 200 PORT command successful
[17:22] <donvito> 550 oscam.conf: Permission denied
[17:22] <donvito> why i cannot send files via ftp?
[17:22] <Runkle> i disabled X about 6 months ago... and i forget if i used proper methods or not. so i'm here with tail between legs :)
[17:22] <Eagleman> TJ- you still here?
[17:22] <hcumberdale> Runkle: question? does your user own his homedirectory? Is he able to write to $HOME ?
[17:22] <Runkle> this server just sits in my basement running samba most of the time, so i don't pay it much attention.
[17:22] <Runkle> yes.
[17:22] <Runkle> hrm. lemme check Xauthority
[17:23] <Runkle> tis gud.
[17:23] <hcumberdale> sudo chown -R YOURUSERNAME:YOURUSERNAME /home/YOURUSERNAME/ << tried?
[17:23] <Runkle> hrm. the thing is tho, lightdm shouldn't even run as my user on boot.
[17:23] <Runkle> it should run as root.
[17:23] <unknown_> How can I rename my nickname
[17:23] <unknown_> ?
[17:23] <TJ-> xvzf: It sounds as if network-manager applet is hiding or not started. In a terminal look for its process using "ps -ef | grep nm-applet". If it isn't there try starting it with "nm-applet&"
[17:23] <TJ-> Eagleman: I am
[17:23] <hcumberdale> unknown_: /nick URNAMEHERE
[17:23] <Runkle> unknown_: google "how do i change my nickname on irc"
[17:23] <Eagleman> TJ- so what now?
[17:24] <Eagleman> I am out of ideas
[17:24] <unknown101> k good
[17:24] <Runkle> hcumberdale: yeah, my file ownership is set fine
[17:24] <unknown101> irssi irc btw but anyway the guy below you helped me
[17:24] <Eagleman> TJ- are there any other programs around to control an APC UPS?
[17:24] <xvzf> TJ-, thanks, I try
[17:25] <hcumberdale> Runkle: grep DENIED /var/log/syslog
[17:25] <Runkle> initctl list |grep lightdm says stoped/waiting as soon as i boot.. but if i run service lightdm, then it starts fine.
[17:25] <TJ-> Eagleman: As I said, I'd post to the apcupsd-users mailing list and see if anyone can suggest anything.
[17:25] <Runkle> hcumberdale: cool
[17:25] <Runkle> hcumberdale: cupsd is teh only thing that is deied.
[17:25] <amicrawler2012> man the mac users are a bunch of jerks
[17:26] <amicrawler2012> not very helpful
[17:26] <Runkle> amicrawler2012: thats's irc in general :)
[17:26] <Runkle> a lot of arrogant 13 year old nerd.s
[17:26] <hcumberdale> sudo dpkg-reconfigure << tried?
[17:26] <unknown101> Eclipse or Codeblocks for c++
[17:26] <hcumberdale> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:26] <Runkle> hrmm hcumberdale did.
[17:27] <Runkle> i even purged it and re-installed it.
[17:27] <hcumberdale> wow,... that's wired
[17:27] <Eagleman> TJ- someone else tried that, but his post got taken over by some guys argueing about some power stuff
[17:27] <xvzf> TJ-, it is running under lightdm user
[17:27] <TJ-> Eagleman: Well they are the experts
[17:27] <amicrawler2012> oh  is there any thing i can do to speed up the gui
[17:27] <hcumberdale> ./wired/weird"
[17:28] <amicrawler2012> the internet is slow
[17:28] <Runkle> amicrawler2012: teh gui of what?
[17:28] <amicrawler2012> gnome
[17:28] <TJ-> xvzf: Really? I thought it should run as the user logged in!
[17:28] <Runkle> hcumberdale: i'm gona remove x org and lightdm logs, reboot and see what comes up before i even try to manually start lightdm.
[17:28] <amicrawler2012> i run 13.10
[17:28] <unknown101> Do I need a website to host an irc loby?
[17:28] <iceroot> unknown101: no
[17:28] <TJ-> Runkle: Check the logs in "/var/log/lightdm/" ... especially the greeter logs
[17:29] <Runkle> TJ-: will do. just rebooting it now
[17:29] <unknown101> ~iceroot do you know any good guide on how to do this?
[17:29] <amicrawler2012> oh i'm runing 64bit
[17:29] <hcumberdale> http://xkcd.com/963/
[17:29] <Runkle> unknown101: google some things.
[17:29] <iceroot> unknown101: #freenode
[17:29] <oogke> Hi people. Studying Java, I saw that this language uses UTF16 for characters. So I expected to see just 2 digits codes like \u00 and not \u0000. Why is it like this? Just because of UTF16 being bit-width variable? When I see \u0000, I think I'm using 32 bit and not 16. Am i wrong about this thinking? Thanks
[17:29] <Eagleman7> TJ- it will be to late before i will get a usefull solution ( if there even is any ) I am planning to bring back this UPS on tuesday so i will get my money back
[17:29] <iceroot> !google | Runkle
[17:29] <xvzf> TJ-, actually, I have found the one mentioned and now I see another with my user
[17:29] <jirido> Results for | Runkle on Google:
[17:29] <jirido> --
[17:29] <TJ-> Eagleman7: OK
[17:29] <unknown101> k let me google it ..
[17:29] <Runkle> wow.
[17:29] <iceroot> jirido: stop that
[17:30] <Eagleman7> TJ- thanks for the help
[17:30] <TJ-> Eagleman7: If you do get it fixed I'd love to hear how
[17:30] <Runkle> alright... onboot no lightdm or X.org logs get created at all....
[17:31] <Runkle> initctl list|grep lightdm says stop/waiting
[17:31] <takeyourhatoff> Hi, I have had some hardware trouble, my boot disk failed, I fiddled around inside the box and now it works again, but my raid array (4x1tb raid5) is apparantly degraded so my machine refuses to boot, it dropped me to a busybox shell, where I mounted my boot disk and discovered why my raid array is degraded, mdadm now detects 2 raid arrays, one which is suppost to have 4 disks but only has one, and another which is also suppost 
[17:31] <Runkle> hrm, i wonder if its enabled in upstart...
[17:31] <jimi_> i just did a clean install of ubuntu 13.... during the installation video works great, after installing i see the ubuntu loading screen, and then sometimes it logs me in, sometimes it doesnt... when it does log me in, my screen is weird. 1/2 of it is on one side, and half is on the other, like the toolbar is in the middle of the screen, etc.
[17:31] <Runkle> i'll be embarrassed if its not :)
[17:31] <hcumberdale> Runkle: ls -la ~/.Xauthority
[17:31] <TJ-> Runkle: I was getting at that!
[17:32] <TJ-> Runkle: Is there an "/etc/init/lightdm.override" ?
[17:32] <Runkle> no, just a lightdm.conf
[17:32] <TJ-> Runkle: Can you pastebin the contents?
[17:32] <Runkle> sure one sec.
[17:33] <xvzf> TJ-, is it possible that the date in the menu bar hides the nm icon? I clicked on the date and now anything but the cursor is frozen, have to reboot
[17:33] <Runkle> http://hastebin.com/fomejahama.rb
[17:34] <TJ-> xvzf: It sounds like something is badly wrong
[17:34] <hcumberdale> Runkle: so manual start of lightdm works?
[17:34] <Runkle> yup. perfectly.
[17:34] <hcumberdale> auto-login enabled?
[17:34] <Runkle> unsure.
[17:35] <Runkle> when i start lightdm it coems up with a username list and a pw prompt.
[17:35] <Lihis> Hi! Is here a NVDIA gpu users that use Ubuntu 13.10 with nvidia 331.20 drivers? Latest Ubuntu updates (after thursday) broke my Unity.
[17:35] <hcumberdale> can you disable autologin-user= in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Lihis: try reinstalling dkms package, may give clues
[17:35] <TJ-> Runkle: Are you booting with "text" on the kernel command-line ("cat /proc/cmdline") ?
[17:35] <jimi_> how do i boot into single user mode?
[17:35] <Runkle> http://askubuntu.com/questions/304418/lightdm-fail-to-start-automatically-after-last-update huh, see second entry.
[17:36] <Runkle> TJ i sure.. :)
[17:36] <Runkle> er i sure am.
[17:36] <TJ-> Runkle: That's why then
[17:36] <Runkle> that expains that.
[17:36] <hcumberdale> is the greeter installed? dpkg -l | grep "greeter"
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_: add the boot option: text
[17:36] <Runkle> do i just remove it in that file or do i edit grub ?
[17:36] <Evidlo> I'm having trouble logging in.  In my lightdm log, it shows a successful login, but then X just quits and lightdm comes back up.  This happens for all my wm's.
[17:36] <TJ-> Runkle: Read the "/etc/init/lightdm.conf" script... "text" inhibits auto-start of lightdm
[17:37] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, i think splash is off... doesnt gie me the option
[17:37] <xvzf> TJ-, indeed, but what the heck can I do to repair it?
[17:37] <Runkle> TJ i see. so how do i disable that text ?
[17:37] <TJ-> xvzf: Without hands/eyes-on, its rather hard to figure out
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_: you wont see it, you add it yourself
[17:37] <Evidlo> jimi_: Hit e at grub and add 'single' to the end of the line that says Linux
[17:37] <TJ-> Runkle: You must have added that to the GRUB config; check "/etc/default/grub" and remove it, then do "sudo update-grub"
[17:38] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, i saying, i dont have the option to do that when i boot up, it just starts loading the os
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_: hold SHIFT at boot
[17:38] <frank_> howdy is this the support channel?
[17:38] <Runkle> TJ-:  thanks for your patience and time. i'm trying a reboot now.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_: then press E to (e)dit the boot
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Frank_: yes
[17:39] <Runkle> TJ-:  that fixed it. thanks so much!
[17:39] <frank_> thanks. Im a new user. everything is working great for last two weeks but once and a while system freezes requiring hard boot
[17:40] <frank_> any thoughts on that? I can't find it in the user guide
[17:41] <amicrawler2012> yep i get that 2  as well on my laptop
[17:41] <amicrawler2012> a hard frezz
[17:42] <frank_> its a new current hardware system, 64 bit
[17:42] <amicrawler2012> frank is yours a desktop or a laptop
[17:43] <frank_> desktop
[17:44] <amicrawler2012> does your mouse  lock up
[17:44] <frank_> msi motherboard, kingston solide state hdd, intel processor
[17:44] <frank_> yes, sometimes the mouse locks, other times it still moves but wont click anything
[17:45] <frank_> oh yes wireless mouse and keyboard
[17:45] <amicrawler2012> humm what mouse
[17:45] <amicrawler2012> oh  well thats it
[17:45] <amicrawler2012> i dont use a wireless at all
[17:45] <amicrawler2012> just a mouse
[17:45] <amicrawler2012> is your batt good
[17:45] <frank_> so that should be the first place I test eh
[17:46] <frank_> works otherwise well
[17:46] <amicrawler2012> yep  as far as i can tell
[17:46] <jimi_> i think my issue is my radeon hd 6450 card is causing issues on boot/start of x
[17:46] <LvMises> There is a small tab above my home folder in 12.04 LTS with the number 4 inside a bubble.  I'm assuming this means I have 4 dialogue boxes or transfers running.  However, when I right click and select show copy dialogue I'm unable to close out of the file transfer.  When I restart it doesn't go away.
[17:46] <LvMises> I CAN however make file transfers from and they add to the original number shown but it doesnt show their progress.
[17:47] <jhutchins> frank_: Hardware is most likely at times like that.  I'd see if a wired mouse & keyboard solved it, then go through and re-seat eveything.
[17:47] <amicrawler2012> ubuntu  13 ?
[17:47] <frank_> recent fresh boot of 13.10 and current upgrades
[17:48] <amicrawler2012> yep thats what i have as well
[17:48] <frank_> what do you mean by re-seat?
[17:48] <amicrawler2012> take out the usb and put back in
[17:48] <frank_> oh ok
[17:48] <amicrawler2012> turn off the computer 1st
[17:49] <jhutchins> frank_: Internal cards, modules, cables too.
[17:49] <amicrawler2012> then give it a try
[17:49] <frank_> yes. works great otherwise for long periods
[17:49] <amicrawler2012> then plug it all back in
[17:49] <amicrawler2012> yes
[17:49] <amicrawler2012> i think it is still the wireless  system
[17:49] <jhutchins> frank_: Also might want to install lm_sensors and monitor temperatures.
[17:50] <amicrawler2012> do you have a wired mouse and key borad to test
[17:50] <hcumberdale> multitouch gestures @ ubuntu are not working well :(
[17:50] <frank_> so this kind of problem wouldn't be tracked by logging?
[17:50] <hcumberdale> *with touchscreen
[17:50] <bakc> hello all sorry for my english. I have little problem on my ubuntu. I want to use for skype  my webcam build-in microphone. But my buddy tell me if i am hear like Smurf. Is there somebody who know where can be problem?
[17:50] <arnaud__> exit
[17:50] <amicrawler2012> you can check  var log
[17:50] <frank_> no I'll have to pick one up. Used to have a macbook pro until it died
[17:50] <TJ-> frank_: When a system just locks-up it usually can't log anything since the logger process gets no CPU time.
[17:51] <frank_> yep thats what i thought. i remember having this problem years ago and figured it was the BM
[17:51] <frank_> MB
[17:51] <Eagleman7> TJ- i might aswell use one of my own work arounds, seting up a raspberry pi with apcupsd, let it shutdown my esxi machine, when power comes back pc's need to manualy start up by pressing the button, Then i need a script on my router which will run after 2-5 min uptime, that will wake up ( WoL ) my PC's attached to the UPS. I think it could work
[17:52] <TJ-> frank_: For reseating, if you're not familiar with it, check this: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ss/reseat-excards.htm
[17:52] <Lihis> ActionParsnip: Reinstall of dkms didn't help. If I try to start Unity from terminal it gives couple errors, eg "compiz (unityshell) - Error: GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object not supported"
[17:52] <frank_> thanks TJ
[17:53] <TJ-> Eagleman7: If it is new I'd also pester APC support on the 'phone
[17:53] <Eagleman7> TJ- i did that haha
[17:53] <TJ-> Eagleman7: since it occurs even without drivers being installed ... really? what was their response?
[17:54] <Eagleman7> TJ- it took her 5 minutes to enter my postbox address in the PC
[17:54] <TJ-> Eagleman7: *rolls eyes*
[17:55] <Eagleman7> TJ- i think there support thing is outsourced to India, with people trying to speak dutch and not understanding you.
[17:55] <Eagleman7> So calling them isnt helping much
[17:55] <TJ-> Eagleman7: One thing I forgot to ask you... when you said there is no problem when using Windows, were you using the Windows version of apcupsd or the APC powerwave drivers?
[17:55] <Eagleman7> TJ- i was using the powerchute software
[17:56] <TJ-> Eagleman7: If you use Windows and the apcupsd driver and that has the same problem, it'd confirm the idea that the usb driver isn't setting some shutdown flag that the proprietary driver does set
[17:56] <TJ-> Eagleman7: which would be well worth reporting to the apcupsd developers since it sounds like the protocol might have changed
[17:57] <Eagleman7> TJ- i dont really want to test it now since it will take like half an hour to setup everything up and going back to windows
[17:58] <mariacarmela> xdcc send #9
[17:58] <TJ-> Eagleman7: OK, well, those are obvious things to try anyhow
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Lihis: try reinstalling the package, watch for errors etc. Check you have the header files for your kernel.
[17:58] <TYDIRocks> Can someone tell me a) where I should put my x-chat folder and b) how to view directories such as / or /var in the file viewer? I can only view documents, music, etc. and it's rather frusturating
[17:58]  * mariacarmela slaps mariacarmela around a bit with a large trout
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: if you go up a folder you can view any folder in the filesystem
[18:00] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Where is that action though? I only see the back and forwrd buttons
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: its not obvious but you can view more than your hone folder. You can even run: nautilus / ,and it will open the file browser at the root of the file system.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: or click in the address bar and youbcan type the location you want
[18:01] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Is there a way to get to that just through the gui though? I don't really want to have to terminal every time I want to go to the root folder
[18:02] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: My address bar doesn't seem to be editable...is that not enabled by default in 13.10?
[18:02] <trism> TYDIRocks: ctrl+L
[18:03] <TYDIRocks> trism: Ah there we go, thank you! I probably should have figured that the computer would be the root folder. No idea why I didn't think of that
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: or the icon on the left of the address blobs. Or press ALT+F2
[18:03] <VlanX> anyone know what permission is  -r--r-----  in numbers?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: 440
[18:03] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: My other question though. When I download packages and extract them, what is the best place to put those files?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: 4 is read, 2 is write, execute is 1
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: anywhere, except /proc and /dev
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: these is no best place
[18:04] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: perfect, thanks
[18:04] <saskslayer> Guys whats the key combination to switch between screens ?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: people often use /opt
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: what are you installing?
[18:05] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: X-chat and Bitcoin
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: xchat is in the repos
[18:05] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Oh I was not aware, cool thanks
[18:05] <saskslayer> Anyone here with screen knowledge
[18:06] <saskslayer> I need to know the keystroke to switch between screens
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: didnt think to search software centre first....?
[18:06] <trism> saskslayer: switch windows in screen? ctrl+a n, ctrl+a p
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> saskslayer: CTRL+ALT+Left and righ cursor, maybe
[18:06] <saskslayer> Ok thanks
[18:07] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Eh I was kind of in a rush to download a client and didn't think of that. Trying to figure out why bitcoin isn't being found even though I added the repo
[18:07] <saskslayer> doesnt work both
[18:07] <saskslayer> No other window
[18:07] <donvito> whats codename of 12.04?
[18:07] <saskslayer> Wait lemme detach
[18:07] <jimi_> the bottom right hand of my screen says "unsupported hardware" in green letters... is that ubuntu? or something else causing that
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:08] <trism> saskslayer: ctrl+a c should create a new window with a command prompt
[18:08] <xangua> donvito precise pangolin
[18:08] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[18:08] <daftykins> jimi_: that's your graphics driver
[18:08] <saskslayer> Oh
[18:08] <saskslayer> thanks
[18:08] <saskslayer> Lemme close this screens O.o
[18:09] <jimi_> daftykins, ah, how do you get rid of it
[18:10] <daftykins> jimi_: google that message, i'm sure there's some kind of file tweak/edit you can do - although there may well be a good reason it's showing up :D
[18:11] <androidfr33k> Ubuntu 13.04 had a Nvidia graphics card and installed an AMD graphics card.  How can I fix this so it will boot into desktop properly?  If I hit ESC I see choices.  I am thinking I need to boot verbose to see messages.  I forgot the sequence hit ESC then choose kernel and edit somehow so it boots verbose?
[18:11] <daftykins> androidfr33k: can you just swap back and remove the driver? or did the nvidia die?
[18:12] <androidfr33k> I can swap it I suppose no other way?
[18:12] <Lihis> ActionParsnip: Oh, and unity_support_test -p gives error that failed to load driver "swrast", everything else have yes except "GL vertex buffer object" and "Unity 3D supported".
[18:13] <androidfr33k> Is Ubunto 100% posix or if I move the drive to another PC will it boot as long as its the same graphics card or is there the ramdisk thing?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> !find bitcoin | TYDIRocks
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: tried those?
[18:14] <daftykins> androidfr33k: well you should still get a shell when you boot, assuming it's X failing? in which case you might want to run "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old" and reboot
[18:14] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Ah I guess I have to add the qt, thanks. I though about that but every other tutorial said only "bitcoin"
[18:14] <androidfr33k> I can try that to thanks
[18:15] <donvito> why i got nautilius error and my pid cccam crashes on ubuntu?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: again, search software centre
[18:15] <androidfr33k> I never get a shell so maybe its more than that I need to see the messages in a console boot.
[18:15] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Well the software center doesn't have the most updated version
[18:15] <androidfr33k> it may be the ramdisk issue
[18:16] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip: Anyways, thanks for all the help.
[18:16] <daftykins> androidfr33k: you've configured a RAM disk? 0o
[18:17] <androidfr33k> I think I am not using the right term.  the init ram something created with the kernel etc
[18:18] <androidfr33k> Its usually configured for the specific hardware and may cause a problem with you move the drive to another PC with a different motherboard etc
[18:18] <daftykins> androidfr33k: so rather than change graphics card you actually changed PC? :)
[18:19] <androidfr33k> yes
[18:19] <androidfr33k> that had a AMD card rather than nvidia
[18:19] <androidfr33k> thats why I asked if Ubuntu was 100% posix
[18:20] <Rallias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6740041/ <- That's my network configuration, but for whatever reason, when I do ifup tap it doesn't configure the IP addresses on tap. What am I doing wrong?
[18:20] <daftykins> androidfr33k: maybe give the 'nomodeset' kernel parameter a try too
[18:20] <frank_> I just set up myself as admin with password, with several accounts for testing. I copied a bunch of files into music folder in a client account, and I want to have access to them in my admin account. yes?
[18:20] <androidfr33k> ok will try that
[18:21] <TJ-> androidfr33k: You can interrupt the GRUB boot-loader at boot-time by holding the SHIFT key down until the boot menu appears, then you can select an alternative boot entry. Sounds like you need to use the "Recovery..." option so you can see kernel messages and see if it drops to an initrd shell, or if it gets past that and sticks somewhere else
[18:21] <androidfr33k> ad it at the boot prompt
[18:22] <frank_> i had to copy that message. thx
[18:23] <androidfr33k> Ah ok thanks TJ- and daftykins
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Frank_: thats fine, make the file owner as the account you copied it to then assing the group owner to give the access you want, you can even make a new group to give access as you desire
[18:24] <frank_> Freewheelin_Franklin_Adios_98
[18:24] <LvMises> Is there a way to edit my login screen in Ubuntu 12.04 with different skins?
[18:24] <cheryl_c> I want to set up wi-fi on my Dell Vostro 1500 laptop. Can someone please help?
[18:25] <Freewheelin_Fran> just use Xconsole? Why no GUI interface?
[18:25] <Jinxed-> how do you modify the path variable in ubuntu 13.10 at the /etc/ld.so.conf
[18:26] <Freewheelin_Fran> \home\\settings\variables\path
[18:27] <Jinxed-> my file currently has include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf and I was told to add /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib to the file
[18:27] <Jinxed-> I tried just adding those lines at the bottom of the file one after another
[18:27] <Jinxed-> but it didn't seem to work
[18:28] <Freewheelin_Fran> how to increase font size in xterm?
[18:28] <WebJonas> Hi guys! Im just wondering wtf is up with mailservers? ive tried to install postfix/sendmail like 4 times and bricked my installation
[18:28] <jhutchins> Jinxed-: Generally there's no good reason to be messing with that.  What are you trying to do?
[18:29] <WebJonas> Arent there an easy point and click mail server? using a VPS
[18:29] <jhutchins> WebJonas: No, mailservers are not point-and-click things (except for Microsoft).
[18:29] <Calinou> androidfr33k, why would it have to be 100% POSIX?
[18:29] <jhutchins> WebJonas: You have to actually study the documentation and understand how they work.
[18:29] <WebJonas> i could also use like gmail if i can send mail from my domain? arent there an easy way? :D
[18:30] <Jinxed-> jhutchins: install vimp
[18:30] <jhutchins> WebJonas: Often a registrar will offer domain mail services, and yes gmail will do that for a fee.
[18:30] <Jinxed-> on second look with a ldconfig -v it shows my paths were added correctly
[18:30] <Jinxed-> which prob means that ffmpeg and my transcoding tools didn't install correctly
[18:31] <Lihis> ActionParsnip: Problem solved, reinstalled the nvidia driver.
[18:31] <WebJonas> Ahh sure then ill make an image of this installation working flawlessly with node and nginx and try one more time carefull readup on the docs
[18:31] <androidfr33k> I always thought one of the attributes being 100% posix is the ability to move the OS from one similar piece of hardware to another
[18:32] <androidfr33k> Isn't that the idea behind a live linux distro?
[18:33] <jhutchins> Jinxed-: http://www.vimp.com/en/web/faq-installation.html
[18:33] <Jinxed-> jhutchins: yeah, I have been working off that
[18:33] <Jinxed-> for a week now
[18:33] <Jinxed-> lots of errors
[18:35] <strixUK> i seem to recall that ubuntu there used to be an 'alternative' installation image that included raid and LVM support etc
[18:35] <strixUK> is that still the case, or does the standard server image contain all of that stuff?
[18:40] <jhutchins> strixUK: That's all pretty mainstream these days.
[18:40] <strixUK> jhutchins: thanks
[18:40] <jhutchins> strixUK: Installing to software raid is still a bit adventurous.
[18:41] <strixUK> i'm pretty comfortable with the mdadm and the lvm tools (have used it lots in lab environments); only question is which install image has all the guff needed
[18:42] <strixUK> i'll also be installing xen on this box, which i have never touched before.  that (for me) will be the adventurous bit ;)
[18:42] <cheryl_c> wireless not connecting on Dell Vostro 1500
[18:43] <Beldar> cheryl_c, Can you run in the terminal lspci and identify the wifi hardware to the channel.
[18:46] <WebJonas> So guys one more question. Dovecot, courier or cyrus?
[18:46] <WebJonas> As the easiest and would only be used by like max 10 people on a small dev box
[18:47] <cheryl_c> Beldar: Is there a specific set of commands that I should use alongside lspci?
[18:47] <Karty> \join #hackerrank
[18:47] <Beldar> cheryl_c, depends on the hardware lspci should show all in general, you can copy and paste that to a pastebin and post the url.
[18:48] <jhutchins> WebJonas: Dovecot
[18:49] <saskslay1r> to install xorg i only need to run "sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg" right ?
[18:49] <cheryl_c> Beldar: dont know how to use pastebin but found out that it is a Broadcom BCM4311 802.11a/b/g/
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[18:50] <Karty> \join #hackerrank
[18:50] <Beldar> Karty, /join
[18:50] <OerHeks> Karty /join #ubuntu-ops
[18:53] <saskslay1r> dasdasdasdsadasdas
[18:54] <saskslay1r> dfs <bx nduioº
[18:54] <saskslay1r> [D~
[18:54] <santosh> yo
[18:55] <DrGrov> Hello, running Xubuntu 13.10 64-bit. I have the default file manager installed (Thunar?). I wonder, what should I set the permissions to for group and others? As read-only or?
[18:55] <DrGrov> Cam O
[18:55] <Guest15188> ??
[18:55] <DrGrov> Can I somehow verify the permissions from the file manager or is it better to do with a terminal?
[18:56] <anonymous> hai
[18:56] <Guest15188> hello
[18:56] <anonymous> hello!!!!
[18:57] <Guest15188> what is this xchat thing?
[18:58] <andyfied> xchat is a client for irc
[18:58] <andyfied> and irc is a system for chatting to people in rooms like this
[18:58] <spearhead_> DrGrov, you should be able to right click on a file and go to properties and there should be an area for permissions...
[18:58] <Guest15188> is this support center for ubuntu?
[18:58] <DrGrov> spearhead_: Ok, thanks. Have it now. I set up everything the same for my whole /home.
[18:59] <spearhead_> DrGrov, I always do it with terminal though...
[18:59] <knightshade> !topic | Guest15188
[18:59] <DrGrov> spearhead_: Ok, I will do it with the file manager, easier in a way to get it done that way.
[18:59] <xangua> Guest15188: this is the official community suport chanel
[19:00] <Guest18813> I want to do a pastebin of my dmesg so someone can help me with my USB hub problems
[19:00] <knightshade> !paste | Guest18813
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: please pastebin the output of: lsusb;lsb_release -a;uname -a ,as well as the dmesg output
[19:01] <knightshade> !pastebinit | Guest18813
[19:02] <Guest18813> I'm just going to type dmesg and copy its results into pastebin, ok?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: install thebpastebinit package, then run: dmesg | pastebinit
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: also pastebin the command I gave
[19:06] <Guest18813> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6740298/
[19:08] <mrpizzaface> can anybody here help me to install windows on a external HDD from ubuntu 12.04
[19:08] <jhutchins> mrpizzaface: Really has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[19:09] <Guest18813> What does this mean ... ? [   19.891124] hub 1-3:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -71)
[19:09] <mrpizzaface> ok lemme rephrase is there any way to start a iso from a file and let it acess USB devices ?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> mrpizzaface: you need to boot to the CD and install, nothing to do with Ubuntu at all
[19:10] <mrpizzaface> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> mrpizzaface: Grub2 can boot ISO files
[19:11] <mrpizzaface> ActionParsnip: Grub2 ? im not a linux user most of the time
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> mrpizzaface: itsbthe default bootloader in Ubuntu
[19:11] <mrpizzaface> ActionParsnip: oooohhhhhh
[19:11] <ajkchat> When I updated to 13.10 I lost everything on my top desktop bar.  No time, wifi, or any logos.  Any solutions?
[19:11] <b1001> Is there a git gui tool to use remotely with my VPS as git server?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> mrpizzaface: a quick websearch would have told you that
[19:12] <mrpizzaface> ActionParsnip: yeah i know but i ususaly come here since real people are usualy better than google
[19:12] <firttt> .
[19:12] <TJ-> mrpizzaface: You can do that using a virtual machine; "virt-manager" is the front-end for configuring native VMs in the GUI
[19:12] <firttt> experiencing login issues in bUNTU14
[19:12] <daniel1> Hi, not ubuntu related but does someone know a good mailing list tutorial ? I dont know how I can post a question.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> mrpizzaface: so you'd rather bother us than expend effort yourself. Nice attitude
[19:13] <TJ-> mrpizzaface: Then you can attach the external USB host device to the VM
[19:13] <firttt> Im sure im not the only one right. lol i cant type my pass
[19:13] <mrpizzaface> ActionParsnip: i dont mean it like that ...... its just i have had worse problems that this and i have been searching google all day .
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> firttt: ubuntu 14.04 isnt supported here yet. Ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:14] <Guest18813> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[19:15] <firttt> i hope the  best for the new release. it seems great except for thisnbug
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> firttt: Trusty is not stable, so you may get issues. If you need a stable OS then reinstall with an older release
[19:15] <Guest18813> ActionParsnip: Actually Ubuntu 13.10 \n \1
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: i saw
[19:16] <Guest18813> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6740348/
[19:16] <Guest18813>  
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: do you have the latest BIOS if your system uses one
[19:16] <mrpizzaface> TJ-: thanks
[19:17] <knightshade> Guest18813: please pastebin the output of lsusb
[19:18] <Guest18813> ActionParsnip: Mine is a MS-7502 motherbioard I've never flashed with a newer BIOS
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: check to see if the update fixes acpi and /or usb bugs
[19:19] <Guest18813> knightshade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6740357/
[19:19] <Guest18813> ActionParsnip: Where do I look for a newer BIOS?
[19:20] <knightshade> Guest18813: so you have a usb hub connected? does it have an extra power supply?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest18813: manufacturers website
[19:22] <donvito> 12.04 lts support is till 2017?
[19:22] <Guest18813> knightshade: I have a USB hub with mic and headphone jacks (one each) and 8 USB ports, as well as SDRAM memory card reader
[19:23] <b1001> Is there a git gui tool to use remotely with my VPS as git server?
[19:24] <DJones> donvito: Yes April 2017
[19:24] <Guest18813> knightshade: About ActionParsnip's suggestion ... about flashing my BIOS from the manufacturer's website ... I don't know which company built my particular mother board
[19:24] <TJ-> Guest18813: You might want to check out issues caused by the ehci_hcd driver; a common workaround to fix that is to 'unbind' that driver ... see for example bug #354832 and its comment #3
[19:24] <smrtz|nix> Hey, I forgot my ubuntu password. I'm in a live enviromnt now, but chroot isn't working.
[19:25] <smrtz|nix> I'm just trying sudo chroot /media/sda1. I've already mounted it there.
[19:25] <smrtz|nix> Any ideas?
[19:25] <Beldar> smrtz|nix, You can reset it from a boot of the install, what is the chroot for here?
[19:26] <smrtz|nix> Beldar: Thanks for the responce.  I thought the only way to do it was boot up a live cd, and chroot in, then use the passwd commmand.  What would you do?
[19:26] <TJ-> smrtz|nix: Yes. You don't need to chroot. If you can generate a password in  the live environment for a new user, get the salted/encrypted hash from "/etc/shadow", and then paste that into the "/target/etc/shadow" for the user you need to fix. (Assumes you mount the other rootfs to "/target/")
[19:27] <karab44> hello
[19:27] <Beldar> smrtz|nix, here is a method. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:27] <karab44> can I install 14.04 LTS and smoothly move to official in april?
[19:27] <TJ-> karab44: Yes. Any other questions ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:27] <Beldar> smrtz|nix, I have never forgot a password, so I can't specifically answer that.
[19:28] <karab44> Thank you TJ-
[19:28] <knightshade> Guest18813: I don't know if updating the BIOS will help. I guess the problem is that the usb has not enough power. Does the usb hub have an extra power supply?
[19:29] <smrtz|nix> Thanks for the help!
[19:30] <dmibrid_> jeffry: is that with chromium browser ??
[19:32] <interdpth> Does the server version come with a UI or is it entirely prompt?
[19:33] <morten77> I think the server version is entirely textmode by default, it should be
[19:34] <interdpth> Yeah, I was thinking so since it was a server. Wanted to be sure, thank you.
[19:35] <k1l_> interdpth: there is no Desktop on the server install
[19:35] <gordonjcp> interdpth: of course it comes with a UI
[19:35] <k1l_> that is quite common for servers, not to have a desktop. but you can install one and make it into a desktop install
[19:35] <gordonjcp> interdpth: how else would you interact with it?
[19:35] <gordonjcp> interdpth: it doesn't have a *graphical* UI
[19:37] <easyeasy> I'm pretty sure i'm having the SSD lightdm issue
[19:37] <easyeasy> Is there a fix?
[19:37] <k1l_> easyeasy: which issue=
[19:38] <k1l_> ?
[19:38] <jhutchins> easyeasy: "THE SSD lightdm issue"?
[19:38] <k1l_> !away | dziegler
[19:38] <Beldar> easyeasy, and what is the "SSD lightdm issue"?
[19:38] <easyeasy> upstart or lightdm initiates but it does so too fast or something to that effect
[19:38] <easyeasy> doesn't launch the greeter
[19:39] <Beldar> easyeasy, Never heard of that I have a SSD and lightdm.
[19:39] <easyeasy> tried to set manually and no i'm stuck at plymoth or whatever the loading anmation
[19:39] <jhutchins> easyeasy: Why don't you assume that this is NOT something everybody sees every day and give us some detail about the problem.  I know I'm runnning lightdm off of an ssd with no problems, but that's on Debian.
[19:40] <easyeasy> something like this, it was shown for 13.04 and 13.10 as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1066410
[19:40] <easyeasy> but in my case, 12.04 lts
[19:41] <_nedr> hello i installed nvidia bumblebee using instructions from http://askubuntu.com/questions/36930/how-well-do-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus-work/
[19:41] <_nedr> but when i run optirun gedit say it says [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU, secondary X is not active
[19:41] <easyeasy> but now plymouth won't get past the animation to even get into cli after i had to set sleep 6
[19:41] <easyeasy> in lightdm.conf
[19:42] <easyeasy> this is being done from minimal, just btw if that matters
[19:43] <Beldar> easyeasy, minimal meaning?
[19:43] <easyeasy> netinstall
[19:43] <easyeasy> i just popped into tt2
[19:43] <easyeasy> tty2*
[19:43] <jhutchins> easyeasy: I would start by disabling plymouth and turning off "quiet", then reading the boot messages.
[19:44] <Beldar> easyeasy, Not really an issue, same install as a live if you install a de from it.
[19:44] <easyeasy> j, where are those settings kept in ubuntu?
[19:45] <easyeasy> in /etc/init/lightdm.conf ?
[19:45] <jhutchins> easyeasy: Easiest to change at boot, or /etc/default/grub
[19:46] <jhutchins> easyeasy: I think you have been distracted by lightdm, it is only what you are calling the "greeter", really has no other function.
[19:46] <easyeasy> ok so comment out the quiet
[19:47] <Mert> hi, i was use windows.. and im bored, i did delete windows and instal xubuntu.. how can i learn this system?
[19:48] <k1l_> Mert: just use it :)
[19:48] <easyeasy> ok, so i rebooted, commented out grub's quiet
[19:48] <easyeasy> lightdm claims started
[19:49] <Mert> thank you :) but i want to be a hacker :))
[19:49] <jhutchins> !getting started
[19:50] <ki7rw> they sure don't make it easy to install firmware or bios updates on a non-windows machine
[19:50] <easyeasy> ki7rw, you can use the WinPE environment
[19:51] <easyeasy> ok so lightdm is running, it's not going to the greeter
[19:51] <niel> what packages are responsible for things inside the lens
[19:51] <easyeasy> confs are correct
[19:51] <niel> cause nothing is showing up in the lens
[19:51] <bekks> niel: The packages with "lens" in its names.
[19:51] <k1l_> niel: did you turn that off in privacy settings?
[19:51] <niel> na thats all I needed to know I am building unity on arch :P
[19:51] <niel> sketchy stuff
[19:52] <Plouj-> what's {ab} in this package's name: libboost1.53-dev{ab} ?
[19:52] <ki7rw> easyeasy: that's a pain to do also
[19:52] <easyeasy> welp
[19:52] <easyeasy> ok so lightdm isn't starting an xsession or whatever to get to the greeter
[19:52] <easyeasy> settings are correct as i set it using the lightdm-default-whatever -g greeter
[19:55] <wolfy1339> is there any way to add another user from a command-line command in ubuntu server 12.10?
[19:55] <easyeasy> adduser
[19:55] <easyeasy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[19:55] <OerHeks> Plouj-, where do you read that?
[19:56] <easyeasy> How to get lightdm to start and go to the greeter?
[19:57] <wolfy1339> so now how do i switch user from the command-line
[19:58] <easyeasy> su whateveruser
[19:58] <YOURBESTFRIEND> guys, how's the top bar called? menu bar?
[19:58] <easyeasy> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/su.1.html
[19:59] <easyeasy> ok, now i'm getting the blank cursor
[19:59] <easyeasy> on reboot
[19:59] <kostkon> YOURBESTFRIEND, top panel, and the bar on the left, launcher
[20:00] <YOURBESTFRIEND> kostkon: in which process does the top panel live?
[20:00] <kostkon> YOURBESTFRIEND, unity-panel-service
[20:01] <YOURBESTFRIEND> kostkon: thanks
[20:01] <kostkon> YOURBESTFRIEND, np
[20:01] <easyeasy> having the ssd issue listed here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1070150
[20:03] <k1l_> easyeasy: are you sure its a ssd issue? i am using ssds since pre 12.04 and never had issues with lightdm
[20:03] <k1l_> !away > tabris|away
[20:04] <easyeasy> If you have any other suggestions please let me know. I already set the lightdm sleep to 10 :\
[20:06] <patrick> hey all
[20:06] <Plouj-> OerHeks: aptitude shows it: http://fpaste.org/67813/89557169/
[20:07] <trism> Plouj-: I believe a is automatic and b is broken
[20:07] <Guest88120> can anyone point me towards a guide on safely setting up ssh on my home machine?
[20:07] <OerHeks> trism +1
[20:08] <easyeasy> ok so i went to a different tty
[20:08] <easyeasy> had to install xinit
[20:08] <easyeasy> X won't start
[20:08] <OerHeks> !ssh
[20:09] <OerHeks> easyeasy, on what videocard?
[20:09] <easyeasy> radeon cedar series
[20:09] <jhutchins> easyeasy: I think you have mis-diagnosed your problem.
[20:09] <demon^eye> anyone installed and Ubuntu nvidia driver suggested by ubuntu ?
[20:09] <easyeasy> probably
[20:09] <OerHeks> ah, cedar trail ....
[20:09] <easyeasy> HD 5xxx
[20:10] <jhutchins> easyeasy: Stop thinking about lightdm.
[20:10] <jhutchins> easyeasy: You are not getting any graphics.  It's probably a driver problem
[20:10] <easyeasy> ok, well i have xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[20:10] <comprehension> OerHeks: was that a response to my question about ssh?
[20:10] <demon^eye> let put it this way : when i install the recommended Nvidia driver by Ububtu the system dont load
[20:10] <comprehension> my concern was with the "safe" part of the question more than the mechanics of setting up sshd
[20:11] <OerHeks> comprehension, yes, ubottu gave you the client instructions, or do you want the ssh service running on your desktop so you can login from an other place?
[20:11] <OerHeks> comprehension, safe, i think it can be safe, i would not use the regular port 22,
[20:12] <demon^eye> so should i leave the default Nvidia driver than install the recommended by ubuntu ?
[20:12] <easyeasy> xinit says unable to connect to X server
[20:12] <easyeasy> no such fle or directory
[20:12] <easyeasy> but i have xorg core and the drivers installed
[20:12] <easyeasy> common, etc
[20:12] <TJ-> easyeasy: Isn't lightdm/X already running? "ps -ef | grep X"
[20:12] <easyeasy> it says lightdm is already running
[20:12] <easyeasy> yes
[20:13] <easyeasy> for example sudo start lightdm says already running
[20:13] <TJ-> easyeasy: "sudo service lightdm restart" to - restart - it :)
[20:14] <easyeasy> ok, correct, then TJ- , it goes to a blank black screen with the cursor blinking
[20:14] <TJ-> easyeasy: OK... so if it is running read the log files in "/etc/var/lightdm/" for clues
[20:14] <TYDIRocks> Does the Ubuntu version of Firefox not support saving tabs when closing?
[20:15] <easyeasy> but it says /usr/bin/X not found
[20:16] <crashoverride> hi
[20:16] <TJ-> easyeasy: what says that? a log-file entry? if so, which log? pastebin that output and surrounding lines
[20:17] <easyeasy> the path you gave me does not exist...
[20:17] <easyeasy> ./etc/var ???
[20:17] <TJ-> easyeasy: I didn't give you that path?
[20:17] <TJ-> easyeasy: hahaha yes I did! I mistyped.... sorry! Not watching my fingers!
[20:17] <easyeasy> ;)
[20:17] <TJ-> easyeasy: OK... so if it is running read the log files in "/var/log/lightdm/" for clues
[20:18]  * TJ- retires :)
[20:18] <easyeasy> can't launch X server X,  not found in path
[20:18] <easyeasy> X server stopped
[20:18] <TJ-> easyeasy: Well that's clear :)
[20:18] <ale> !list
[20:19] <ale> ciao
[20:19] <easyeasy> ok but I installed core common and the driver and kbd and mouse
[20:19] <easyeasy> are there any other requires
[20:19] <come-dian> have you watched "Richard Stallman Talks About Ubuntu" Video on youtube?
[20:19] <TJ-> easyeasy: "dpkg-query -l xserver-xorg"
[20:20] <come-dian> He said that canonical spy on us
[20:20] <easyeasy> those aren't all actually required
[20:20] <easyeasy> so i guess the question then is, what is the minimum for ubuntu without the massive package
[20:21] <TJ-> easyeasy: does dpkg-query report xserver-xorg is installed ("ii") ?
[20:21] <easyeasy> it spams a bunch of packages
[20:22] <TJ-> easyeasy: You're not helping; you need to answer specific questions accurately for us to be able to assist. You are our eyes and ears.
[20:23] <easyeasy> I installed xserver-xorg-video-radeon , the common package, the core package, the mouse and keyboard packages
[20:23] <Left_Turn> is the default ftp linux/unix program recommended/good?
[20:24] <easyeasy> am i missing anything required?
[20:24] <jhutchins> Left_Turn: For what?
[20:24] <Left_Turn> i want to connect to an ftp server to download and upload files jhutchins
[20:24] <demon^eye> what nvidia driver should i use with Ubuntu ?
[20:25] <jhutchins> Left_Turn: The cli client is the basic implementation of ftp, it works.  Pretty much the same as any ftp client, same code.
[20:25] <easyeasy> minus the video driver, what are the minimum Xorg packages required for a desktop?
[20:25] <easyeasy> can anyone answer this queston?
[20:25] <Left_Turn> ah ok great. ill give it a try... thanks jhutchins
[20:26] <jhutchins> Left_Turn: Most web and file browsers will do ftp as well.
[20:26] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[20:26] <Left_Turn> hmm let me try that 1st:)
[20:27] <jhutchins> easyeasy: What is it you're actually trying to do?  Why not just a normal desktop install?
[20:27] <easyeasy> bloated
[20:27] <demon^eye> No help today...
[20:27] <easyeasy> SSD
[20:27] <easyeasy> What are the minimum packages to satisfy xinit and lightdm, because the depends are obviously wrong
[20:28] <TJ-> easyeasy:  I've asked you twice now for the result of a command that will assist, but you've not shown me it
[20:28] <easyeasy> I already showed output
[20:28] <demon^eye> Should i use Nvidia driver fro nvidia site or use default what Ubuntu use ?
[20:28] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Your question is too vague.  There is the noveau driver which covers most cards, and there are proprietary drivers which have their own problems.
[20:28] <easyeasy> it spams every package
[20:28] <easyeasy> i'm not retyping
[20:28] <easyeasy> 100 packages
[20:28] <Flannel> easyeasy: Can you pastebin it?
[20:28] <easyeasy> uh
[20:28] <easyeasy> no
[20:28] <easyeasy> i'm in CLI
[20:29] <TJ-> easyeasy: I don't see it. That wasn't a result of the command I gave; there'd only be at most one package listed
[20:29] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Start with the default driver.  If you have specific needs it doesn't meet, read some of the wiki's and forums about the proprietary drivers.
[20:29] <TJ-> !pastebinit|easyeasy
[20:29] <nick1024> Hii can someone tell me some android app to remotely  control my ubuntu....
[20:29] <easyeasy> i'm not putting that bloat on my system
[20:29] <jhutchins> easyeasy: A full GUI Desktop environment runs less than 6G.  Don't sweat it.
[20:29] <easyeasy> Not really
[20:29] <OerHeks> easyeasy, besides your HD5xxx do you have a 2nd GPU ? ATI hybrid?
[20:29] <easyeasy> it pulls in recommends from new packages
[20:29] <demon^eye> jhutchins, : my concern it uses ubuntu default which doesnt reco them...
[20:29] <easyeasy> the default updater also pulls in the sdks
[20:30] <jhutchins> easyeasy: Go ahead and install it, then use it to learn what you're doing.  THEN you can start understanding what is bloat and what isn't, because right now you just don't know.
[20:30] <easyeasy> Why can't you answer a very normal question about requirements of the display server for your distro?
[20:30] <TJ-> easyeasy: "apt-get --no-install-recommends ..."
[20:30] <easyeasy> The depends aren't depends
[20:30] <easyeasy> wacom tablets are not required
[20:30] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Best answer is try it and see.  Mostly the free driver recognizes them and works, but may not have 3D acceleration or some other features.
[20:30] <easyeasy> Sis graphics and trident are not required
[20:31] <easyeasy> so if you please, what is the minimum X packages to run lightdm
[20:31] <easyeasy> graphically
[20:31] <jhutchins> easyeasy: We're just fellow users.  Nobody has bothered to try to install X without the recommended dependencies, because that little disk space isn't worth that much effort.
[20:31] <easyeasy> sure they have, they're called debian users
[20:31] <jhutchins> easyeasy: GIVE UP ON LIGHTDM!!!
[20:31] <demon^eye> jhutchins, : when i use what recommended by Ubuntu it stuck and doesnt load , and cant even go to fallback driver
[20:32] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Ah, there we go, actual problem.
[20:32] <easyeasy> i did jhut, other than the deps are listed incorrectly
[20:32] <jhutchins> easyeasy: You don't know enough to say that.
[20:32] <easyeasy> what are the minimum packages required for X not including the display driver
[20:32] <easyeasy> I do, coming from Gentoo and Arch where this madness does not exist
[20:32] <demon^eye> jhutchins,  : yes , so i use version 309 not 319 since it stuck at boot... why is that ? its marked "recommended" ?
[20:33] <easyeasy> i haven't read all the defaults for each package which is why i'm asking
[20:33] <easyeasy> Can you answer or no
[20:33] <easyeasy> Do you know the default X packages for ubuntu to display without using metapackages
[20:33] <easyeasy> yes or no
[20:33] <jhutchins> easyeasy: Fighting dependencies is not something for a new user to mess with.  Just go ahead and install it, learn to use it, learn the packaging sytem, and then you can figure out how to strip it down to a minimal install.
[20:33] <easyeasy> No, no you can't
[20:33] <easyeasy> because the metapackages require the BS
[20:33] <jhutchins> easyeasy: I think perhaps ubuntu is not the distro for you.
[20:34] <easyeasy> for example, the DRM mesa packages i have to live with
[20:34] <TJ-> easyeasy: Sounds like Ubuntu is the wrong distro for you... I'd recommend you try DSL
[20:34] <easyeasy> but the others not so much
[20:34] <demon^eye> jhutchins, : *304 instead 319...
[20:34] <easyeasy> why? it doesn't require the metas
[20:34] <easyeasy> There is nothing I will use that rdepends on xorg meta
[20:34] <easyeasy> not one
[20:35] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Are you trying to use 13.03 or 13.10?
[20:37] <demon^eye> jhutchins, : no , 12.04
[20:37] <jhutchins> Hrm.  Should work with the default.
[20:37] <jhutchins> What's the chipset from lspci?
[20:37] <demon^eye> its 304 .... but recommended is 319...
[20:38] <jhutchins> demon^eye: demon^eye Just the numbers don't mean anything to me.
[20:38] <demon^eye> and when set to 319 , bybye system need to reinstall
[20:38] <jhutchins> demon^eye: nonsense, you can fix it from the CLI.
[20:38] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Cna you figure out what's wrong from /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[20:38] <demon^eye> jhutchins, : i am nit linux expert , i am just a newbie trying to fir in :)
[20:39] <jhutchins> demon^eye: Right, so this is the part where you learn to fix things from the CLI.
[20:39] <demon^eye> jhutchins,  : i am now on 12.04 after install it from the start...
[20:39] <demon^eye> what CLI stand for ?
[20:39] <jhutchins> Command Line Interface.
[20:39] <demon^eye> haa
[20:39] <demon^eye> terminal?
[20:40] <demon^eye> welp i dont need to fix nothing that is new...
[20:40] <Ben____> Hi, I just installed ubuntu12 alongside windows7. but can't see list of wifi network
[20:40] <YOURBESTFRIEND> where can I find the code for unity-panel-service?
[20:40] <demon^eye> i JUST install it and dont have the wheel nor to power to mess with it , i need it to work that it
[20:41] <jhutchins> !radeon
[20:41] <demon^eye> i dont get it why recommended driver (319) stuck all the system up
[20:41] <demon^eye> will pick a look...
[20:41] <demon^eye> 10x :)
[20:42] <Ben____> anyone?
[20:43] <jhutchins> Ben____: What wifi chipset do you have?
[20:43] <Ben____> don't really know
[20:43] <Ben____> working fine on windows
[20:44] <marrrk> Alright, I would like to do Android development in IntelliJ. I want to use Oracle java. Do I need version 6 or 7?
[20:45] <jhutchins> Ben____: Linux is more do-it-yourself.
[20:45] <jhutchins> Ben____lspci -nn | grep -i net
[20:45] <easyeasy> Ben___ unless you want to DIY instead of metapackages
[20:45] <easyeasy> then they're lying to you
[20:45] <jhutchins> Ben____: IN a terminal.
[20:46] <k1l_> Ben____: what does "rfkill list" give you?
[20:46] <Ben____> gives yes and no
[20:46] <k1l_> !paste | Ben____
[20:47] <Ben____> I can't access the ubuntu now i'm on windows
[20:48] <Ben____> is there a command to turn wirless on?
[20:48] <k1l_> Ben____: if it says blocked: yes    there is maybe some switch you need to press first
[20:49] <Anton__> I have a problem with setting this up on ubuntu. My internet works, I can browse the web etc, but my network manager doesn't detect any network devices and whenever I add a VPN connection it gets greyed out. It's a VPS
[20:49] <Anton__> Please help, I can pay with paypal if you help me
[20:50] <TJ-> Anton__: "VPS" - do you mean you rent a Virtual Private Sever at some Internet hosting facility?
[20:54] <TJ-> Ben____: Some Wifi devices require additional drivers that can't be distributed as part of the open-source operating system. So we need to know which precise device the system has. If you're on Windows you can start Device Manager, find the device, call up its Properties dialog, choose the "Details" tab and look for its ID string which will be of the form "VEN_?????&DEV?????&..." if you can show us that, we can decipher which device it is and what you're likely to
[20:54] <TJ->  need
[20:55] <YOURBESTFRIEND> where can I find the code for unity-panel-service?
[20:55] <k1l_> !info unity-panel-service
[20:56] <YOURBESTFRIEND> wat
[20:56] <YOURBESTFRIEND> WHY
[20:56] <YOURBESTFRIEND> !info unity-panel
[20:56] <k1l_> YOURBESTFRIEND: no need for caps
[20:57] <k1l_> !info unity
[20:57] <k1l_> !away > zenix`away
[20:57] <YOURBESTFRIEND> so I must look at unity's code?
[20:58] <k1l_> YOURBESTFRIEND: yes
[20:58] <k1l_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/unity
[21:03] <jhutchins> YOURBESTFRIEND: What you need to do is figure out which package the program is in (unity), then get the source for that.
[21:04] <widdershins> really need a hand. I must record some video on my envy 17 laptop. usung saucy, the webcam works with google plus hangouts, but not cheese or some other programs i've used. help?
[21:04] <TJ-> YOURBESTFRIEND: here's a friendly shell command pipeline that'll locate the package containing an installed file: "FIND=unity-panel-service; apt-cache show $(dpkg-query -S $FIND | tail -1 | cut -d: -f 1) | egrep '^(Source|Package)' | sort -u  "
[21:05] <widdershins> GTK+ doesn't work either
[21:05] <TJ-> YOURBESTFRIEND: To quickly install the source of a known package, do "apt-get source $PACKAGE_NAME"
[21:05] <TJ-> widdershins: Has the Google hangouts thing got an exclusive lock on the camera?
[21:06] <widdershins> how would i check that, TJ-?
[21:06] <TJ-> widdershins: close down the Hangouts process?
[21:06] <widdershins> I've done restarts and not used hangouts since, still no go
[21:06] <TJ-> widdershins: Is it a USB camera?
[21:06] <widdershins> TJ-: laptop monitor
[21:07] <widdershins> TJ-: i open cheese, i see myself so the cam is held by cheese at that time. i click video and "record a video" and the time-indicator freezes and the program locs
[21:07] <TJ-> widdershins: Probably connected via USB.... have you tried "gstreamer-properties"
[21:08] <TJ-> widdershins: ahhhh... that sounds like a bug in Cheese or the camera device driver
[21:09] <TJ-> widdershins: Check the log-files ... /var/log/kern.log for driver issues; /var/log/messages for the wider system, and ~/.xsession-errors for user-profile problems
[21:09] <EvilDMP> I have installed memcached from source. I have the scripts directory - what should I do with it to have memcached start up automatically?
[21:10] <crushoverride> hi
[21:10] <widdershins> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/hWR500Qm
[21:11] <widdershins> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/izKDNjXm
[21:15] <TJ-> widdershins: The kern.log suggests that system has a few problems.
[21:15] <TJ-> widdershins: can you pastebin "lsusb"
[21:16] <widdershins> TJ-: any way i could solve them?
[21:16] <widdershins> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/EXbxV2Z4
[21:17] <TJ-> widdershins: hmm, that last pastebin reports spam detection not a paste
[21:17] <widdershins> odd... try it again? http://pastebin.com/EXbxV2Z4
[21:17] <TJ-> widdershins: OK :)
[21:21] <TJ-> widdershins: I think the camera might be "04f2:b3a6 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd"
[21:23] <jcrubino> how do I set the directory a barebones install boots to?
[21:23] <widdershins> You have me hopeful. What can we do now, TJ-?
[21:27] <TJ-> widdershins: I'm researching it
[21:28] <ciO> ciao
[21:30] <jcrubino> how can I set the directory an install boots to?
[21:30] <Denevien> So, I have a hosted box that uses Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, and I use it for a ZNC. My problem is that when connecting to some networks, I either need to force users to use my IP v4, or force different v6s on them. I was told I need to set something up in my network interface to do the second one (which is apparently the better option). Anyone that can help with this?
[21:31] <TJ-> widdershins: I have to leave now... use the device info to research problems with that device. I'm not having a lot of success finding any clear diagnostics for the freeze issue if the logs aren't helping
[21:32] <widdershins> thanks for your help, TJ-. Means a lot. :)
[21:32] <widdershins> will do what I can and come back if i have to
[21:32] <widdershins> Can anyone else advise me? This is not my first linux distro, but i'm at a loss to solve this
[21:32] <JoshDreamland> is there a PPA with a newer Doxygen, somewhere?
[21:37] <EUCLIDIS> Is OpenBox from Ubuntu repository up to date?
[21:38] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: which ubuntu
[21:39] <k1l_> !info openbox
[21:40] <Waly007> hello
[21:41] <Waly007> Is anyone here that could help me resolve some issues. I have been going at it for the last 12 hours
[21:41] <Waly007> but couldn't find any solutions online
[21:41] <Waly007> basically I have a laptop that just won't play nicely with grub2
[21:42] <Waly007> if I turn the computer without the install usb in it won't boot
[21:43] <Beldar> Waly007, So it shows grub and n=boots with usb plugged in?
[21:43] <Beldar> boots*
[21:43] <k1l_> Waly007: is this some uefi setup?
[21:43] <Waly007> no
[21:43] <Waly007> it doesn't show grub
[21:43] <Waly007> my bios doesn't have any options for uefi
[21:43] <Waly007> but i do know that windows was in uefi mode
[21:43] <Beldar> Waly007, But boots to ubuntu with usb plugged in?
[21:43] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: 13.04..
[21:43] <Waly007> it boots to the live cd as I get the install disc with usb plugged in
[21:44] <tiblock> Hi. I use ubuntu 12.04 and in "aptitude" instead of lines i see "lqqqqqqqqqqqqk" and other symbols. I can't google solution. What correct query for google for that problem?
[21:44] <Waly007> I have tried to do almost everything with boot repair
[21:44] <Beldar> Waly007, Grub is only an issue on installs, not a live boot.
[21:44] <Waly007> yeah
[21:45] <EUCLIDIS> !openbox
[21:45] <Waly007> it can't seem to boot
[21:45] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: be aware that 13.04 is only supported this january
[21:45] <Beldar> Waly007, Did you save the bootinfo summary from bootrepair?
[21:45] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: and its 3.5.0 in 13.04. so its quite recent
[21:45] <Waly007> nope. I have been going through different distros just in hope that one would work :(
[21:46] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: I know. I'm very concerned about it. I've got tried upgrade but I couldn't.
[21:46] <Waly007> I am currently in elementary os luna on live cd I can get the boot repair summary if you want
[21:46] <Beldar> Waly007, Honestly your description is highly confusing, I cannot even tell if you have an install, or not.
[21:47] <Waly007> I installed it
[21:47] <Waly007> but it won't boot
[21:47] <Waly007> so I have to use live usb to try and troubleshoot it
[21:47] <Beldar> Waly007, That bootinfo summary is very important to save for any present state your in.
[21:48] <Waly007> aha ok
[21:48] <Beldar> you're*
[21:48] <Jeeves_Moss> I have a master/slave setup of BIND9 sertup, but I'm getting "zone TessaWhite.ca/IN/internal: refresh: unexpected rcode (SERVFAIL) from master ", what am I doing wrong here?
[21:48] <Waly007> i am getting that just give me a min
[21:48] <Waly007> should I apply recommended repair
[21:48] <Waly007> or just get the boot summary
[21:49] <Beldar> Waly007, If you look on the bootrepair webpage it has a link to the developers thread at the ubuntu forums, posting that summary there will get you the best help.
[21:49] <Waly007> aha ok
[21:49] <Waly007> thanks beldar
[21:50] <Waly007> but what could really be the issue like. I have looked at it from all angles
[21:50] <Waly007> just wiped the HD completely clean using gparted
[21:50] <Beldar> Waly007, No problem, good help here sporadically, however there are people on the UF focused in this area is all
[21:51] <Beldar> Waly007, If you had a uefi setup then you have a gpt partition table, that can be dealt with, but by help from those knowledgeable in the scenario you are in.
[21:52] <Waly007> yeah i did have a gpt partition as I had windows 7 installed
[21:53] <Beldar> Waly007, I'm hesitant to advise any more than "seek appropriate help" just to be safe here is all. I believe one can make a msdos table and go legacy boot and use the mbr, that is what I would do if possible.
[21:54] <Beldar> having no MS
[21:54] <Waly007> well I did make a msdos table but my bios have no option to go to legacy mode
[21:54] <Waly007> I did install that way as well but the bios doesn't have legacy mode so, I kept getting the same headache of not being able to boot
[21:55] <Waly007> btw where should I seek help regarding boot repair
[21:55] <Waly007> I went to the sourceforge repository and they don't have any support forums
[21:55] <uw> whens 14.04 gonna come up
[21:56] <uw> out
[21:56] <k1l_> uw: like its in the name: april 2014
[21:56] <Beldar> Waly007, I would make that bootinfo summary and post it here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917  Include what you have told me here a msdos and no windows.
[21:56] <uw> k1l_, do you know the day?
[21:56] <k1l_> uw: its in the release schedule
[21:56] <k1l_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[21:57] <uw> i dont have browser rite now
[21:57] <uw> but it's not that important
[21:57] <uw> i'm on 12.04 and looking ot upgrade i'll probably wait
[21:57] <Beldar> Waly007, Your looking for help from this user primarily, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295   and the developer.
[21:58] <Beldar> Those two are your best help
[21:58] <k1l_> uw: the LTS to LTS upgrade will be available for 14.04.1 release. that is some month later
[21:58] <Waly007> thanks beldar
[21:59] <Beldar> Waly007, No problem, I used to be on the UF and am familiar with those users.
[21:59] <Seven_Six_Two> I installed a noarch rpm of keepnote (note taking) and I need to export the python path before I run it. I added the entry to bashrc and it runs when I do it manually. I edited /usr/local/share/applications/keepnote.desktop and now I don't have the launcher in my menu.
[21:59] <EUCLIDIS> I cannot upgrade to 13.10. I really do not know what is happening.
[22:00] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: give more details
[22:00] <Seven_Six_Two> oops. wrong channel. if anyone knows why editing a .desktop makes it unlaunchable, please let me know.
[22:01] <slvpltr> lol
[22:01] <slvpltr> ls -lh /path/to/something.desktop
[22:01] <slvpltr> then post it in a paste bin and link here
[22:01] <slvpltr> (cat it)
[22:02] <EUCLIDIS> I want upgrade. I went in the 'software and updates' and checked the 'any version release'. I already update many times, changed the server.. anyway. No upgrade is available.
[22:02] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: ^
[22:03] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: please pastbin "uname -a" , "lsb_release -a"
[22:03] <EUCLIDIS> sure..
[22:03] <jost> My mp3-player does not mount as rw, and I can't remount it rw. dmesg says 'sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is on'. Google  does not help - how do I mount it as rw?
[22:06] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6741251/
[22:06] <luca> ciaoù
[22:06] <luca> !list
[22:06] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: Is that really usefull?
[22:06] <cheryl_c> I need help installing the broadcom drivers for my dell vostro 1500. The wireless will not work on distro 1310
[22:08] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: did you run"sudo do-release-upgrade" ?
[22:08] <EUCLIDIS> no
[22:08] <k1l_> EUCLIDIS: that is the command for upgrading to 13.10
[22:09] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: Good one. I did not know that.
[22:11] <EUCLIDIS> k1l_: 'searching for new ubuntu release' .. Must happen now.
[22:12] <Jinxed-> is this the correct syntax to get a bash script to run via crontab?
[22:12] <Jinxed-> */1 * * * * /var/www/scripts/sync_new_uploads.sh > /dev/null 2>&1
[22:12] <Jinxed-> in crontab -e
[22:12] <boire> hello every body
[22:12] <chezbob> yo
[22:12] <cheryl_c> I used wicd and got the following error: "Could not connect to wicd's bus interface
[22:16] <Beldar> cheryl_c, On a side note I looked up the computer model, there is a switch on the left side panel that controls the wireless.
[22:17] <Beldar> cheryl_c, Just wondering if it was off when you tried the broadcom install.
[22:19] <Denevien> I think my question got buried, so I'll post again
[22:19] <Denevien> So, I have a hosted box that uses Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, and I use it for a ZNC. My problem is that when connecting to some networks, I either need to force users to use my IP v4, or force different v6s on them. I was told I need to set something up in my network interface to do the second one (which is apparently the better option). Anyone that can help with this?
[22:22] <k1l_> !nickspam | FARTUNTANGLER Guest16528 HeadBoii
[22:23] <italian_manager_> hi guys anyone know wireless issue for dell XPS 13 ultrabook developer edition ( with ubuntu linux 12.04 ) ????
[22:24] <Beldar> !details | italian_manager_
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> italian_manager_: pastebin the output of `lspci`
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin > italian_manager_
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> if you can, or if you're connected via, like, ethernet
[22:26] <alice_> ciao
[22:29] <italian_manager_> hi lord
[22:29] <italian_manager_> i have pc disconnected now stay with another pc
[22:30] <italian_manager_> this is a problem that have very people with xps13 dev edition
[22:30] <italian_manager_> when i try to connect to wifi
[22:30] <k1l_> italian_manager_: did you try 13.10?
[22:31] <IceGuest_77> hi. im trying to install ubuntu but I have an HP laptop with windows 8
[22:31] <IceGuest_77> I disabled secure boot and changed the boot order to cd but it doesnt work
[22:31] <Beldar> !md5sum | IceGuest_77
[22:31] <italian_manager_> pc, asking me so many times, to enter the password, after many attempts it connects, it remains only a few minutes and log off, start it up again until after 3 or 4 times crashes
[22:33] <italian_manager_> pc, asking me so many times, to enter the password, after many attempts it connects, it remains only a few minutes and log off, start it up again until after 3 or 4 times crashes
[22:33] <IceGuest_77> beldar so if its a good boot then what do I do?
[22:33] <donvito> on ubuntu 12.04 installed xfce4 the terminal doesnt shows nothing when i type :(
[22:34] <Beldar> IceGuest_77, What release is the disc and desktop?
[22:34] <Viking667> 13.10, can't play blu-ray disc (and I've only got the single one to try with)... steps I've followed are: grabbed every lib-bluray related thing I can see that's relevant... grabbed the KEYDB.cfg and put that into /home/zoombuggy/.config/aacs/
[22:34] <folkie> vviv/close
[22:35] <YOURBESTFRIEND> where can I find ubuntu 14.04?
[22:35] <YOURBESTFRIEND> the daily release
[22:35] <k1l_> !trusty | YOURBESTFRIEND
[22:35] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I can never find it
[22:35] <jost> I've got an USB stick here that is read only, dmesg says its write protected. How can I mount it writeable?
[22:35] <Beldar> IceGuest_77, I ask for the release due to ubuntu has not fit on a cd for awhile is all. Take a look at this thread for uefi boots. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[22:35] <YOURBESTFRIEND> !prerelease
[22:36] <Viking667> so... what should I try next?
[22:36] <rww> YOURBESTFRIEND: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:36] <cheryl_c> Beldar: switch was on
[22:36] <Beldar> YOURBESTFRIEND, #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel and the link you ned is. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:36] <Beldar> need*
[22:37] <rww> YOURBESTFRIEND: (disclaimer: these images are unsupported and discussion of them belongs in #ubuntu+1)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> OK
[22:37] <italian_manager_> LORD
[22:37] <italian_manager_> i paste
[22:37] <Viking667> you called?
[22:37] <italian_manager_> for you my output
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 0a04 (rev 09)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0a16 (rev 09)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 0a0c (rev 09)
[22:37] <FloodBot1> italian_manager_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Device 9c31 (rev 04)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 9c3a (rev 04)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9c20 (rev 04)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9c10 (rev e4)
[22:37] <italian_manager_> 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9c14 (rev e4)
[22:37] <alice_> ciao
[22:37] <Viking667> ugh. I hate when they do tat.
[22:37] <spearhead> !paste | italian_manager_
[22:37] <k1l_> italian_manager_: use a pastebin
[22:37] <Beldar> cheryl_c, You need the broadcom driver, I would give details of the problems you had to the channel, I doubt wicd is needed.
[22:38] <YOURBESTFRIEND> rww: how did you find the link?
[22:39] <cheryl_c> Beldar: I have the broadcom driver but don't know how to install it?
[22:39] <Beldar> cheryl_c, Did you look at the bots links on broadcom?
[22:40] <Jeeves_Moss> I have a master/slave setup currently configed, and I'm getting "zone TessaWhite.ca/IN/internal: refresh: unexpected rcode (SERVFAIL) from master"  What am I doing wrong here?
[22:40] <Beldar> YOURBESTFRIEND, I found the link with 14.04 daily
[22:40] <Jeeves_Moss> I have a master/slave setup currently configed, and I'm getting "zone TessaWhite.ca/IN/internal: refresh: unexpected rcode (SERVFAIL) from master"  What am I doing wrong here?
[22:41] <IceGuest_77> can anyone help me boot ubuntu in win 8
[22:41] <IceGuest_77> HP 2000 series
[22:41] <Beldar> IceGuest_77, Did you look at the ubuntu link I sent you?
[22:41] <Beldar> ubuntu forums
[22:42] <IceGuest_77> beldar no ill look now thx
[22:42] <jatt> i installed ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and it provided kernel 3.8 on another laptopo i also have ubuntu 12.04 installed but there the kernel version is 3.2, does anybody know why the difference? both systems are up-to-date
[22:42] <Beldar> IceGuest_77, Good, it has multiple scenarios due to manufacturers having differing uefi's
[22:43] <k1l_> jatt: the 12.04.3 install images have the enablement stack enabled by default
[22:44] <cheryl_c> did not see any bots on broadcom
[22:44] <k1l_> !bot | cheryl_c
[22:44] <Beldar> !broadcom | cheryl_c
[22:45] <jatt> k1l_: i see, so i get 3.8 only if I install from cd but not if I upgrade with apt-get?
[22:45] <Beldar> cheryl_c, You want to get used to using nicks here, you can tab complete them.
[22:46] <k1l_> jatt: if you installed with the older images you can manually activate the enablement stack
[22:46] <k1l_> jatt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:46] <ClientAlive> My servers don't start when the computer starts and I need them to do that. Does anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[22:47] <k1l_> ClientAlive: depends on the "servers" you are talking about
[22:47] <jatt> k1l_: great thanks yes I installed an old image months back and then upgraded with apt-get will try your link
[22:48] <ClientAlive> k1l_: I have installed the bitnami ruby stack as well as their redmine. Some of the servers in question are: apache2, mysql, postgresql, and possibly others ( whatever is included in those two bitnami installations needs to start when I fire up the laptop ).
[22:49] <ikonia> ClientAlive: depends how you installed them, they should have provided an init script
[22:49] <alexanderuiz> hola
[22:50] <ClientAlive> ikonia: They are installed ( by thier installer ) in the directory I chose, as a self contained thing. I have chosen to instlall them in /opt/packages/<package name>
[22:50] <alexanderuiz> alguien conoce algun programa para ubuntu para crear livecd
[22:50] <ikonia> ClientAlive: then they will not contain an init script as they are self contained
[22:50] <ClientAlive> I will browse those dirs to see if there is the script then. thx
[22:50] <ikonia> ClientAlive: contact the installer owner and ask them to make the correct init scripts available
[22:50] <ikonia> ClientAlive: there will not be init scripts in those directories
[22:51] <ClientAlive> ikonia: Seems rather daunting to me to make contact with them ( but I could be wrong ).
[22:51] <ikonia> ClientAlive: I don't see why it is danuting to email the provider of a software package and ask for scripts that should be provided
[22:52] <ClientAlive> If I can't find it now I will resort to that. Is there any teltale signs ( a certain naming conventioon ) to identify the init script? Is it like a make file where it will almost always be named "make" or "Make" ?
[22:52] <cheryl_c> Beldar: I downloaded and extracted the broadcom driver for my wirelesss. Can you help me install them manually by giving me the shortcuts to copy and paste in the terminal
[22:53] <ikonia> ClientAlive: there will not be an init script there
[22:53] <Beldar> cheryl_c, I have never had to install broadcom so the best I can do is the link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:53] <ClientAlive> ikonia: Isn't there a process for adding things to init via the command line ( such as there is with arch )?
[22:54] <ikonia> ClientAlive: "adding them to init" ?
[22:54] <Beldar> cheryl_c The link to the wiki works for most users.
[22:54] <ikonia> ClientAlive: a.) you need a script designed to be used with the init system of your distro b.) it needs to be included at the right run levels using the tools for that specific init system
[22:54] <ClientAlive> ikonia: I recall durin an Arch instlal that a step in the install was to use some command to add certain services to init ( now they use something different than init though)
[22:55] <ClientAlive> ok ok
[22:55] <ikonia> ClientAlive: I'd advise you to not reference arch as a bases for experience as it's a non-standard distribtuion
[22:55] <ClientAlive> ok
[22:59] <malgorath> Has anyone successfully dual booted with windows 8.1 and Ubuntu yet?
[22:59] <ClientAlive> What might a scriptt called "ctl.sh" be? I see scripts of the same name in several locations on the system.
[23:00] <ikonia> ClientAlive: what part of "there will be no init script" am I not making clear /
[23:02] <ClientAlive> well sir, I have added apache2 service in ubuntu before (although prior versions). Are you saying that I don't currently have something I would need to do it? Because that is not what I reclall. ( I have done this several times a couple years ago and done it in several different distros over time). I'm asking how to bc this is a different version of ubuntu than I've used before and bc it has been a long time since I did it.
[23:02] <androidfr33k> I want to boot to a Console.  I see to be having a problem booting to desktop and want to see all the kernel and module messages being displayed during the boot and end up in a console mode to examine more troubleshooting
[23:02] <androidfr33k> I already tried nomodeset and it boots fine to the desktop
[23:02] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you have not added apache 2 before as it's already included in the ubuntu distros that ship apache - so you don't know what you are saying
[23:02] <ClientAlive> Let's just take a simple example question: How does one add apache2 to init in ubuntu 13.10  -  manually
[23:02] <ClientAlive> ?
[23:02] <androidfr33k> Is there an INITTAB in ubuntu to setup boot
[23:02] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's already part of the apache package, so you don't add it
[23:02] <ikonia> androidfr33k: no
[23:03] <androidfr33k> How can one change user level boot?
[23:03] <ikonia> androidfr33k: you don't, it's locked to 2
[23:03] <ikonia> androidfr33k: why do you want to change the default run level ?
[23:03] <androidfr33k> ah ok so no way to boot to a console mode then
[23:04] <ikonia> androidfr33k: yes, you disable the window manager, or boot singleuser/recovery mode
[23:04] <androidfr33k> I want to be able to manual startx
[23:04] <androidfr33k> but boot into a console
[23:04] <ikonia> androidfr33k: seems an odd requirement, but sure, just disable the window manager/login manager
[23:04] <androidfr33k> k thanks
[23:05] <androidfr33k> where do I do that?
[23:05] <ikonia> !upstart | adnane__
[23:05] <ikonia> oops
[23:05] <ikonia> !upstart | androidfr33k
[23:05] <ClientAlive> hey ikonia you fucking asshole! I'm looking at the initscript for apache2
[23:05] <ClientAlive> dumbass!!
[23:05] <slvpltr> lol
[23:05] <androidfr33k> k thanks
[23:05] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you're looking at the init script - because it's already included
[23:06] <jaysee> Hello. I've got a sorta weird driver bug i'm trying to resolve. I'm using a toshiba P870 laptop and recently installed windows (after ubuntu, fixed boot problems and such). Now, the issue i'm having is that the internal speakers refuse to activate. I've posted about this before on the forums but never got a response. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2179973 I've also found a post on the linux mint forums that s
[23:06] <jaysee> eems to have been resolved by simply updating his system. I'm wondering now if anyone can help me figure out what actually happened when he updated his system. What driver was installed/updated etc. Any help is much appreciated.
[23:06] <androidfr33k> it has something to do with the graphics driver unless I can get around this another way?  I don't see an xorg.config per say
[23:07] <ikonia> androidfr33k: that has nothing to do with starting/stopping X
[23:07] <slvpltr> jaysee,
[23:07] <ikonia> androidfr33k: why don't you tell us the problem and why you want this
[23:07] <slvpltr> does the system show that volume is available? does it see the device?
[23:08] <androidfr33k> ok lets start over.  My system starts to boot but I get a back screen no desktop
[23:08] <jaysee> yes the system sees the device fine just as it did before i installed windows
[23:08] <slvpltr> an OS would not change the hardware, but might have updated something - perhaps a firmware update via windows was applied?
[23:08] <ikonia> androidfr33k ok - that's more like it
[23:08] <slvpltr> !volume
[23:08] <androidfr33k> I can boot in if I modify the kernel line to nomodeset
[23:08] <slvpltr> !sound | jaysee
[23:08] <slvpltr> try these?
[23:09] <tomlowndes> Hi has anyone got any advice on how to duel boot mavericks and ubuntu on an macbook pro?
[23:09] <slvpltr> ok lets look @ alsamixer
[23:09] <slvpltr> were those all the channels detected by alsamixer in your thread?
[23:09] <jaysee> if a firmware update is applied when the windows driver is installed it must be unapplied when the driver is uninstalled, as sound works no problem after that
[23:09] <androidfr33k> or recovery choosing failsafe graphics mode
[23:10] <slvpltr> jaysee, that's why i said firmware rather than driver.
[23:10] <slvpltr> it could have updated your bios version if you ok'd it somewhere
[23:10] <slvpltr> there are a lot of tools that do this sort of thing from inside windows
[23:10] <ikonia> androidfr33k: I suggest trying to build a summary question: eg: I'm using ubuntu 13.10 64 bit with an nvidia 123 graphics card, I'm using the propitary nvidia module and after enabling it, it only boots to a black screen. Any advice ?
[23:10] <slvpltr> that would leave a change even across reboots, neh?
[23:10] <jaysee> id didn't udate the bios (uefi) version. I make sure to manually keep tabs on that
[23:11] <slvpltr> hm
[23:11] <Corbin> hey folks, my googlefu is weak for this one, it may be too new of a model to have many results. Anyone have any advice on how to determine if I'll have any issues getting ubuntu set up on this guy? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834126091
[23:11] <slvpltr> do usb speakers work?
[23:11] <ikonia> Corbin: check the individual hardware components
[23:11] <Shamrock13> Can anyone help me with the speakers on my Dell laptop?
[23:11] <Shamrock13> Well, the sound card rather
[23:12] <Corbin> ikonia: having a heck of a time finding those specs, i'll keep looking
[23:12] <jaysee> i don't have usb speakers to test, though the headphone jack works fine
[23:12] <ikonia> Corbin: I'd expect you to have some problems with that
[23:12] <ikonia> Corbin: (as in that device)
[23:13] <ikonia> Corbin: windows/secureboot is a risk, broadcom network card is a risk, so I'd see two risks there
[23:13] <slvpltr> ahahaha
[23:13] <slvpltr> right i forgot something jaysee
[23:13] <slvpltr> in the bios, there might be 2 options on what kind of sound or what sound card (usually fake) to use
[23:14] <jaysee> i'll double check the uefi, but i don't recall there being an option for audio. brb
[23:14] <Corbin> ikonia: i had thought by 2014 we'd be over wifi card issues for the most part. is ndiswrapper still a thing?
[23:14] <androidfr33k> I am using Ubunto 12.1064 bit with Advacned Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI: Barts [Radeon HD 6800 series}  This device is using the recommended driver Using x.org X server -AMD/ATI display wrapper from server-xorg-video
[23:14] <androidfr33k> Its boots to a black screen
[23:14] <slooker> Hey guys.  I'm trying to get my mac mini to boot ubuntu and mac with refit, but when I choose the ubuntu partition from the refit menu, its telling me the firmware refused to boot from the selected volume. Note that external hard drives are not well supported by apple's firmware for legacy OS booting
[23:14] <slooker> Can anyone help me out?
[23:14] <ikonia> Corbin: the year has nothing to do with vendors not making hardware spec available, ndis is not something I'd make a purchase depending on
[23:15] <Corbin> ikonia: i know, just grumbling
[23:15] <ikonia> Corbin: email broadcom and grumble
[23:15] <Shamrock13> I've tried reinstalling alsa, and even after deleting everything and then reinstalling, the sound will still not work.
[23:15] <Shamrock13> Anyone think they can help me get it going?
[23:16] <Corbin> ikonia: ndiswrapper still does its job though, yeah? Last time I've had any wifi issues i just ndis'd it right up
[23:16] <Corbin> hopefully it'll work in this case if it comes to it
[23:16] <ikonia> Corbin: it's not something I'd depend on as a solution
[23:16] <ikonia> Corbin: I wouldn't buy an expensive laptop hoping that ndis will work on this card with this version
[23:16] <ikonia> Corbin: I'd also check the secure boot options
[23:16] <antithesis__> How come Unity isn't universal like other DEs? Why would porting work need to be done if one wants to use it on a non-Ubuntu distro?
[23:17] <ikonia> antithesis__ what do you mean not universal?
[23:17] <jaysee> as i had thought, nothing in the uefi settings about audio
[23:17] <antithesis__> ikanobori, the fact that you can't just install it on non-Ubuntu distros
[23:18] <ikonia> antithesis__: you could, but other distros don't want it
[23:18] <antithesis__> ikonia, it's significantly more work than, say, getting GNOME 3 to work on those distros
[23:18] <ikonia> antithesis__ I don't see why
[23:18] <jaysee> slvpltr: as i thought, nothing in the uefi settings about audio
[23:19] <ikonia> antithesis__: it's jus a QT/compiz plugin
[23:19] <sadiik> cc
[23:19] <ikonia> I don't see why it's any harder than any other desktop enviornment
[23:19] <sadiik> what !
[23:20] <Viking667> what's the latest version of libaacs0 at the moment for Ubuntu?
[23:20] <bekks> Viking667: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[23:21] <Viking667> heh. Thanks. I'm chasing up a error (vlc can't play one particular bluray disc)
[23:21] <androidfr33k> Is there a way to see if there are other Graphics drivers installed and remove anything extra?  I am using Ubuntu 12.10, 64 bit with the AMD recommended driver but want to make sure there are no nvidia drivers
[23:22] <ikonia> antithesis__: unless you installed them - there won't be
[23:22] <treats> Can anyone point me toward some reference material on how to make unity barable or switch to gnome?  I don't like that it's selling me stuff out of the box...
[23:22] <ikonia> antithesis__: I'd concentrate on fixing the issue rather than looking for random causes
[23:22] <ikonia> treats: selling you stuff ?
[23:22] <ikonia> treats: do you mean the amazon lens ?
[23:22] <treats> unity is suggesting products that cost money
[23:22] <ikonia> !nolens | treats
[23:22] <Viking667> ugh. Seems it's not even IN default ubuntu.
[23:22] <treats> when I click the 'start' bar
[23:23] <treats> 13.10, straight from the website
[23:23] <ikonia> treats: let me give you instructions to disable the amazon lens
[23:23] <ikonia> !adlens | treats
[23:23] <ikonia> there you go
[23:23] <treats> thanks
[23:24] <thom_r> I saw an article earlier that said Ubuntu is considering  replacing the software center with a software scope
[23:25] <altin> Could somebody help me understand why my Thinkpad T530 with i7 processor and 8GB Ram is so slow on UBUNTU, I can tell when I lock my screen and unlock it, it boots so slow as well,  I run Ubuntu 12.10 64bit with a 3.11 kernel and GNOME 3.8.4
[23:26] <Beldar> thom_r, More of an offtopic issue see #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:26] <thom_r> oops, sorry
[23:29] <Shamrock13> I tried reinstalling the driver again, but it will not work. I have analog and digital audio showing, but my laptop refuses to play anything
[23:29] <Daemoen> lo all
[23:31] <Shamrock13> Hey Daemoen.
[23:31] <Daemoen> i have one machine that for whatever reason, cannot grab tftp data, so i cant netboot the preseed file i have;  is it possible to load a remote preseed file even when installing from disc?
[23:31] <Daemoen> ( ie, mixing netinstall with cd boot )
[23:32] <jeffrey_f> daemoen: Grab the network installer  -->  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[23:33] <Shamrock13> Can anyone help me fix my sound issue, please?
[23:33] <jeffrey_f> Shamrock13:  Post what the problem is and what you know so far.  If someone knows, they will answer
[23:34] <yahyaa> can someone tell me how to make the virtual desktops show in the bash pannel of kubuntu 13.10 to the left side like it was in kubuntu 12.10?
[23:34] <Daemoen> jeffrey_f: i think youre missing the problem here
[23:34] <Shamrock13> I do not have any sound on my Dell 17r SE laptop. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the HDA driver (DKMS), and I still am not receiving any sound.
[23:34] <Daemoen> i have a fully functional tftp pxe environment,  this one single machine has a bios glitch that prevents it from grabbing the tftp data, so im having to install via "cd"
[23:35]  * jeffrey_f thinks Daemoen could be right.  sorry
[23:35] <Daemoen> i want to boot cd, but still install via the preseed file ive written
[23:35] <xangua> Hello everyone, I am unable to see any bluetooth device in ubuntu 12.04 lsmod http://pastebin.com/HpAS28P6 .s
[23:35] <Daemoen> haha, got it to work
[23:35] <Daemoen> good to know that you can simply use f6 and change the preseed file to a url on boot
[23:37] <eglxiang> How to setup Chinese input in Ubuntu with Xfce?
[23:37] <mitchell> hello
[23:37] <eglxiang> I installed unicon-imc2 from Ubuntu one
[23:38] <eglxiang> Then I don't how to switch to Chinese input
[23:38] <eglxiang> Anybody can help?
[23:39] <portage> Hi, /cl
[23:39] <mrpizzaface> hey dose anybody here know how to make a HDD with the flags of being bootable from ubuntu 12.04 ?
[23:39] <xangua> Hello everyone, I am unable to see any bluetooth device in ubuntu 12.04, apparently this computer (hp G42-283LA) has some kind of bundled wifi/blueo tooth, if I hit the hardware key do enable/disable it enables/disables both but the wifi is working OK; is there any procedure I should take to see what's wrong or what am I missing? output of  lsmod http://pastebin.com/HpAS28P6 lspci http://pastebin.com/vRUaUJr7
[23:40] <xup> Hi, I want run this software, but I get: bash: ./this_software: Permission denied
[23:41] <ikonia> xup: put execute permissions on the software
[23:41] <ikonia> xup: please tell us what the software is as it may also be missing libraries based on ubuntu's setup
[23:42] <xup> ikonia, some guy told me that if I ran halt would be ok
[23:42] <ikonia> xup: what is the actual software you want to run
[23:42] <xup> ikonia, one sec, will try
[23:42] <ikonia> troll
[23:43] <nPegler> anyone having any issues with Ubuntu 13.10 not wanting to display the on-screen keyboard after it has been enabled in the Accessiblity Options?  I cannot finish the installation without keyboard access on my Gigabyte touch screen x86 tablet...
[23:44] <Shamrock13> This is silly. I'm trying everything I can find online, but I'm not getting any kind of sound whatsoever.
[23:44] <nPegler> Shamrock13, have you tried going to the website for the manufacturer of the audio card in your system to look for a Linux driver?
[23:45] <Shamrock13> Honestly, I haven't just because I assumed Dell wouldn't make an audio driver for it.
[23:45] <Shamrock13> I'll check now.
[23:45] <nPegler> What type of Dell system do you have? I can look up the audio card type and help you find a linux driver
[23:46] <Shamrock13> 17r Special Edition
[23:46] <Shamrock13> The system tag is 8HRRCT1
[23:46] <nPegler> k I'll let you know if I can find anything
[23:46] <Shamrock13> Thank you so much
[23:46] <mrpizzaface> is there any way i can get a Virtual box to reconize a usb hdd
[23:47] <Beldar> mrpizzaface, In the prefernces
[23:48] <WalterSmith> cock
[23:48] <Beldar> ops | waltercool_
[23:48] <mrpizzaface> Beldar: it says i need the expansion pack and i have it installed but it wont let me enable usb2.0 support
[23:48] <Beldar> waltercool_ soory
[23:48] <quidnunc> Can anyone running 12.10 either confirm or deny that "cabal install entropy" fails? You need "apt-get install cabal-install ghc"
[23:49] <waltercool_> Beldar: Why? :S
[23:49] <Beldar> mrpizzaface, usb 2 support, does this computer have usb 2?
[23:49] <ikonia> quidnunc: what don't you just tell us your problem, rather than other peoples
[23:49] <Beldar> waltercool_, I did a ops call and accidentally used your nick
[23:50] <nPegler> Shamrock13, unfortunately Dell utilized a Conexant Audio Card... Conexant does not provide driver support for end users. You'll have to google Conexant Audio for linux and try to sift through that for something that works
[23:50] <nPegler> I wish you the best of luck
[23:50] <mrpizzaface> Beldar: USB2 and USB3 support i have it plugged into usb 2.0 at the moment
[23:51] <waltercool_> Beldar: Hahahha relax, shit happens
[23:51] <nPegler> anyone know how to get the on screen keyboard to show up on Ubuntu 13.10 after having enabled it on the Accessiblity Options?
[23:51] <Beldar> mrpizzaface, Not sure, I have never had to enable usb support.
[23:51] <mrpizzaface> beldar ill try :P
[23:52] <mrpizzaface> well i can boot the iso :)
[23:52] <Shamrock13> nPegler, the worst part of it is that I had sound when I first installed Ubuntu, and then whatever I did took it away.
[23:52] <Shamrock13> I cannot get it back either. Ugh.
[23:52] <nPegler> that's really odd :-S
[23:53] <xur> hi all
[23:54] <Shamrock13> I have absolutely no idea what to do.
[23:54] <nPegler> I'm still learning Ubuntu myself :-S
[23:54] <Shamrock13> Yep! Me too!
[23:54] <nPegler> I like the look of it and am actually trying to get it loaded onto my touch-screen tablet pc
[23:55] <Shamrock13> That would be pretty awesome.
[23:55] <Shamrock13> I love the look of Ubuntu
[23:55] <Shamrock13> I'll be right back. Have to restart and see if I got it fixed or not.
[23:55] <Steakumz> Used Windows all my life, and made a New Years resolution to try Ubuntu in 2014..So here I am :)
[23:55] <RealNWO> windows is better
[23:55] <Steakumz> I feel like somewhat of an idiot
[23:55] <nPegler> Welcome to the linux world :-)
[23:56] <RealNWO> but ubuntu is the best linux, and sometimes u need linux
[23:56] <Steakumz> I'm really bummed to find out I apparently can't play League of Legends anymore.
[23:56] <nPegler> I've used Fedora for a while, but it won't work on my tablet...
[23:56] <Steakumz> Also, download speed 1/2 of what I was getting on Windows with torrents :/
[23:57] <nPegler> the exact same torrents?
[23:57] <Steakumz> yeap
[23:57] <zeprox> same ports?
[23:57] <Steakumz> torrents with tons of fast seeds only hitting 500mb/s download speeds
[23:57] <Shamrock13> I'm back, and there was absolutely no luck.
[23:57] <Steakumz> doubt the same ports, I went from Utorrent to Transmission
[23:57] <daftykins> only 500MB/sec? awww
[23:58] <nPegler> that could be the issue Steakumz
[23:58] <nPegler> some torrent software works better than others
[23:58] <Steakumz> I mean 500kb/s sorry
[23:58] <Steakumz> Well, I wanted to use Deluge client, but even after port forwarding it says "no incoming connection", so maybe I'll keep tinkering with that client.
[23:59] <xangua> Just found the solution to my bluetooth issue: As  of 2013.11.13 Bluetooth is working for RT3090. After installing bluez,  bluez-utils and any other bluetooth related packages you may need, run  "bccmd enabletx" as root. No need to dual boot with Windows, only  running the command. As the half-mini wireless card RT3090 is a combo one, the  bluetooth radio is embeded together with wifi. The bluetooth device  isn't listed in lspci. However, is is visible 
[23:59] <Steakumz> grats
[23:59] <nPegler> awesome that you figured it out :-)