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SpamapSslangasek: note I just pinged you in #debian-devel, but I'll ask here in case you ignore that one05:33
SpamapSvorlon: Hey, say I was totally insane and wanted to have a Debian box that used upstart.. 05:33
SpamapSslangasek: Hey, say I was totally insane and wanted to have a Debian box that used upstart.. 05:33
SpamapSslangasek: specifically a VM... how might I get that upstart to be verbose and spray things to the console?05:33
SpamapSslangasek: have you experienced any issues with startpar and upstart on sid?18:00
SpamapSslangasek: for me, rc RUNLEVEL=2 never returns when using startpar18:01
slangasekSpamapS: not specifically, though certainly there have been scattered reports of broken init scripts preventing startpar from doing the right thing19:29
SpamapSWhat seems to happen..19:29
SpamapSis startpar never returns19:29
SpamapSso rc RUNLEVEL=2 never finishes.. and tty1 never starts19:29
SpamapSslangasek: I have a really minimal set of software installed19:30
SpamapSslangasek: anyway, I'm filing a bug against sysvinit-utils .. upstart seems to be doing the right thing.. /etc/init.d/rc or startpar seems more likely as the problem.19:30
slangasekSpamapS: ok, well, I can't reproduce that in a basic sid VM here19:34
SpamapSslangasek: I'm building the VM myself using debootstrap and diskimage-builder (OpenStack image builder)19:38
SpamapSslangasek: so perhaps we're missing a dep somewhere?19:38
slangasekSpamapS: I don't see how a missing dep would cause any upstart-specific problems19:38
slangasekSpamapS: have you turned up the debugging on startpar, to see where it gets stuck?19:39
slangaseker... or does startpar have any debugging19:39
SpamapSI don't know how to do that :(19:40
SpamapSyeah I don't see anything in the manpage19:40
SpamapSslangasek: I can work around it by just diverting startpar...19:41
SpamapSslangasek: I'm using upstart specifically because I want upstarty things to keep working.. don't care much about speed of /etc/rc2.d/* :)19:41
slangasekSpamapS: hah - so I just dist-upgraded my vm, pulling in new versions of udev and ifupdown, and the VM hasn't come back up19:42
SpamapSslangasek: could it be a bug in the cloud-init packages? I see that cloud-init ships /etc/init/cloud-config.conf _and_ I have /etc/rc2.d/S03cloud-config19:42
slangasekSpamapS: diverting startpar doesn't work, upstart relies on startpar integration to force skipping of init scripts that duplicate upstart jobs19:43
SpamapSslangasek: mine dies after cron says it started19:43
SpamapSslangasek: so it 'works' but not really :)19:45
slangasekSpamapS: it 'works' except that it doesn't work after I update, so something changed in sid recently19:45
SpamapSslangasek: ok so it is normal to have an S03cloud-config and /etc/init/cloud-config.conf ?19:46
slangasekSpamapS: yep19:46
slangasekSpamapS: ah, my boot failure is unrelated, EC2 console shows that the kernel config explodeded :P19:50
SpamapSslangasek: one other problem I'm having is that I"m not able to just add --verbose to kernel command line and get lots of init: stuff on console19:56
SpamapSslangasek: startpar appears to only have debugging printing stuff if you compile with -DDEBUG20:18

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