[00:06] <sergio-br2> it seems nvidia-331 is problematic with dual card graphics too... Bug #1268184 
[00:40] <ochosi> brainwash: yeah, setting the timeout to something lower is planned, but not very high on my list right now. it's something completely new, so pretty much the same as if you start investigating it... (feel free to ;))
[00:43] <ochosi> brainwash: also, there are now daily-builds of the xfce4-indicator-plugin, you might want to try to reproduce the layout bug you had with that: https://code.launchpad.net/~landronimirc/+archive/xfce-daily
[00:51] <ochosi> brainwash: ok, that package isn't ready yet, the packaging needs some tweaks...
[00:54] <jjfrv8> knome, I have a few hours tomorrow. Would, say, 15 to 18 work for you then? If not then, I should have some more time on Monday.
[00:55] <knome> most probably not; monday sounds better
[00:56] <jjfrv8> ok, if you name a time on Monday after 14 or so, I can probably make that.
[00:57] <knome> my schedule is pretty flexible, but i need to be off for some time around 14-16UTC; anything after that should work for me too
[00:58] <knome> what's the latest time that works for you?
[00:58] <jjfrv8> 02ish
[00:58] <knome> heh, that's really late for me
[00:58] <knome> something like 20utc could be good
[00:59] <jjfrv8> that'll fly
[00:59] <knome> but let's follow up on the schedule closer on monday
[00:59] <jjfrv8> sure
[00:59] <knome> and thanks :)
[00:59] <jjfrv8> ty
[00:59] <knome> how's life? keeping you busy?
[00:59] <jjfrv8> kinda
[01:00] <jjfrv8> I'll check back with you on Monday
[01:00] <knome> oki
[01:00] <knome> have a nice weekend!
[01:00] <jjfrv8> you too :)
[01:01] <knome> will do
[01:15] <knome> where's skellat when you need him?
[01:15] <lderan> do not know :P
[01:15] <Noskcaj> knome, Probably doing weekend stuff
[01:15] <knome> open source is weekend stuff :P
[01:17] <Noskcaj> good point
[01:25] <knome> off for now, bbl
[09:11] <knome> elfy, christoffer: meet each other
[09:12] <knome> elfy, christoffer is running 14.04
[09:12] <christoffer> Hi
[09:12] <knome> ...also why i asked about the nvidia bug :)
[09:12] <christoffer> thanks for the links to the bug reports knome 
[09:12] <knome> np
[09:12] <christoffer> will look in to that in a few hours
[09:13] <knome> i just grepped the lastlog from this channel
[09:18] <elfy> hi christoffer :)
[09:24] <christoffer> hi elfy 
[10:16] <brainwash> ochosi: ok, so the plan would be to 1) call 'lock' instead of 'switch-to-greeter' when resuming the system 2) alter the screen saver timeout via set_saver() 3) make the timeout value configurable via lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf, default 60sec or less
[13:30] <elfy> bluesabre: you're welcome :p
[13:31] <elfy> micahg: any idea when we can expect the livecd to login properly ? bug 1259525
[14:01] <Migou> Hi everyone! Bonjour tout le monde
[14:03] <Migou> Maybe it's too early in the morning?
[14:04] <elfy> not at all - just Sunday ;)
[14:05] <Migou> hi Elfy. well, i came here because I would like to suggest an -very small- improvement. I don't know if I'm on th right place.
[14:09] <elfy> well - depends - but probably the best place would be the mailing list :)
[14:11] <Migou> for several years, when I happen to click ont he "Open with another application" option, a file chooser opens and it's on a default directory which is not "/usr/bin". Considering (nearly?) all the applications are in /usr/bin, it would be great if the default file chooser location was "/usr/bin".
[14:11] <elfy> I certainly understand that viewpoint
[14:12] <Migou> great. well should I chose the xubuntu-users or xubuntu devel mailing list ?
[14:14] <elfy> definitely the -devel list, but I'd read the content of this post to it by knome (Pasi) which should point you in the right direction 
[14:14] <elfy> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-January/009615.html
[14:58] <Migou> thx elfy, i'll test on a fresh xubuntu install and post on the devel list
[16:21] <elfy> Unit193 or ochosi or anyone else - is there a reason why the tabwin dooby is defaulting here to room for 3 apps - rather than just go with what there actually is? 
[17:22] <ochosi> elfy: that's the xfwm4 default
[17:22] <ochosi> in the tabwin branch that is actually fixed
[17:23] <elfy> ok ochosi - wonder why I'd not noticed previously - perhaps because it wasn't black
[17:23] <ochosi> it always was black with greybird
[17:23] <elfy> ok - I think probably my tabwin branch is being overridden by one of the other ppa's - mine is square edges
[17:24] <ochosi> that's xfwm4 default
[17:24] <ochosi> it has looked like that for the last 5 years without changes
[17:24] <elfy> ochosi: really? how odd 
[17:25]  * elfy cleans his glasses
[17:26] <bluesabre> :)
[17:33] <elfy> good lord - so it is ... 
[17:34] <ochosi> elfy: well i'll take that as a compliment for the new tabwin ;)
[17:34] <elfy> never noticed that - you can tell I'd be 'really' good at designing themes ... 
[17:34] <elfy> ochosi: yea :p
[17:35] <elfy> so - when we get these things really - will it have the nice rounded corners - I assume that's the plan - now that we've got black being new out of the way lol
[17:37] <ochosi> yup
[17:37] <ochosi> and you'll also be able to click into it with the mouse
[17:38] <ochosi> which is quite nice when there are many windows
[17:39] <elfy> yea - I saw that fleetingly, I could pin to Unit193's ppa I think - not that worried though 
[17:51] <elfy> lderan: wooho - I see that MP :p
[17:51] <lderan> :P
[17:52] <elfy> shall look at it and see if it makes sense to me 
[17:52] <elfy> nope ... 
[17:52] <elfy> :)
[17:53] <lderan> :P
[17:54] <lderan> hopefully will have a few basic ones up before the end of the day
[18:01] <elfy> nice :)
[18:11] <slickymaster> afternoon all
[18:16] <lderan> hello slickymaster :)
[18:17] <slickymaster> hi lderan. Hope everything is fine with you
[18:17] <lderan> that it is thank you
[18:17] <lderan> how about yourself?
[18:17] <slickymaster> fine thanks
[18:17] <slickymaster> but what are you thanking me?
[18:18] <slickymaster> lderan, ^^
[18:20] <lderan> for hoping everything is fine :P same reason for your thanks
[18:20] <slickymaster> :)
[18:23] <elfy> hi slickymaster 
[18:23] <slickymaster> hi, elfy 
[18:24] <slickymaster> I was about to ping you
[18:24] <slickymaster> regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/minorchanges/+merge/201284
[18:24] <elfy> I thought you might - just check them and then when we know they're ok - I'll merge them and update tracker
[18:25] <slickymaster> that was my doubt? I'ill just review them since I don't have permissions for merging
[18:25] <elfy> yep - I just want another set of eyes on them - thought you'd not mind
[18:26] <elfy> checked the testcases for this week's call yesterday
[18:26] <elfy> I've got some others as well - I think they're re removal of the old post-install test, but they can wait
[18:27] <slickymaster> I'll start on them and I think that by tuesday you'll be able to merge them
[18:27] <elfy> waiting for bluesabre with the mugshot one as well
[18:27] <elfy> slickymaster: no rush, I'll be calling at the end of the week
[18:28] <slickymaster> ok, but I'll done before that
[18:28] <elfy> ta :)
[18:29] <elfy> off for a bit now
[19:07] <Noskcaj> lderan, I think we're meant to be making a different autopilot branch for xubuntu, rather than adding to ubuntu-autopilot-tests
[19:07] <lderan> ah ok
[19:17] <elfy> Noskcaj: did nick pronounce on that yet? 
[19:17] <Noskcaj> elfy, Not from what i've seen. But i agree we should. 
[19:17] <elfy> so did I - but he is the boss :p
[19:22] <lderan> :P
[19:23] <elfy> Noskcaj: yea - you mentioned it and he ignored it :p
[19:23] <elfy> I'll try and remember to mention it tomorrow
[19:32] <elfy> bluesabre: did you get anywhere at all with mugshot? ppa and camera - if not - is it likely before mid-week - reason being I'm doing a package test call at the end of the week - if necessary I'll tell people not to test if currently
[19:34] <elfy> slickymaster lderan Unit193 - I made a XubuntuQA user for the trello thingy - you can use that one to assign things to the team 
[19:34] <lderan> awesome :)
[19:35] <elfy> you'll see I have been swapping E for an X :p
[19:37] <lderan> yup
[19:53] <bluesabre> elfy, try installing gstreamer1.0-tools
[19:53] <bluesabre> ppa-wise, I'm using trusty and the mugshot ppa, theres def. a package in there
[20:04] <elfy> ahah - it's there now :)
[20:05] <elfy> bluesabre: ok - cool, so I can check the testcase now, I think the other day I had issue with the other ppa - I've got dev-daily here
[20:09] <slickymaster> elfy, line 37 of the abiword testcase is missing a tab
[20:12] <elfy> slickymaster: could you comment on the MP - I'll forget otherwise :)
[20:12] <elfy> then I can do any fixes at the same time :)
[20:13] <slickymaster> ok, I'll do it
[20:14] <slickymaster> but I'll review all of them, first
[20:14] <elfy> there is somewhere there you can comment - you don't need to do anything to the code itself
[20:18] <slickymaster> yeah, I know
[20:19] <elfy> just checking - sounded like you were off to change line 37 :p
[20:19] <slickymaster> no, no :)
[20:21] <elfy> bluesabre: so for people to test mugshot atm - they need to install dev-daily PPA/mugshot/gstreamer1.0-tools - that right?
[20:22] <bluesabre> yeah, I'll try to update the dependencies to include that now
[20:22] <elfy> ok
[20:29] <knome> Migou, hello
[20:29] <knome> jjfrv8, 16UTC would be good for me tomorrow
[20:30] <Migou> salut knome :)
[20:30] <Migou> oops, hi knome
[20:30] <knome> Migou, i'm not sure i follow your comment; i don't seem to have any problem with it
[20:31] <Migou> Indeed, I tested on a newly installed xubuntu, and there is no problem
[20:31] <knome> whenever i select "open with other application", i get a list of apps instead of a file location chooser
[20:31] <knome> and even if i select a custom command, the default folder is indeed /usr/bin...
[20:32] <Migou> On my computer too, it turned back to normal.
[20:32] <knome> ok
[20:32] <Migou> so, keep on the good work :)))
[20:33] <knome> thanks
[20:34] <knome> Migou, if you are interested in helping, we have several tasks todo and not yet assigned this cycle...
[20:35] <Migou> why not.
[20:36] <elfy> why not indeed :)
[20:36] <Migou> but something not too time consuming please ^^
[20:36] <Migou> what would you suggest?
[20:37] <knome> Migou, if you are interested in quality assurance, we always need more testers for example
[20:38] <knome> Migou, or if you prefer writing, we would always do well with more hands on getting documentation and other user-facing stuff in better shaep
[20:38] <knome> *shape
[20:38] <slickymaster> Yes, Migou we're always needing testers: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds
[20:38] <Migou> that means, installing the beta release and giving feedback?
[20:39] <knome> Migou, installing the (now alpha) development release and sending testing reports
[20:39] <slickymaster> yes, Migou. Make sure you don't forget to login at the tracker, otherwise the tests won't be accounted
[20:40] <Migou> i'll do that. 
[20:41] <knome> Migou, if you need help, you can ask this channel; elfy is our QA lead, slickymaster is a team member also working with QA
[20:41] <knome> and i happen to be the monkey steering the ship
[20:42] <Migou> :)))
[20:42] <elfy> Migou: are you subscribed to the -dev mailing list and/or in the xubuntu-testers group on launchpad - if you are then you'll get told what and when we're testing
[20:42] <elfy> if you aren't do one or the other :)
[20:42] <Migou> yeah, elfy is very efficient at QA. He was the first to answer me
[20:42] <elfy> only because I saw you asking :)
[20:43] <Migou> Ok, i'll subscribe the dev mailing list
[20:44] <Migou> if you need some competences regarding french language, i'm your man...
[20:45] <slickymaster> Migou, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers
[20:45] <knome> Migou, you can translate the documentation into french
[20:45] <knome> Migou, https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs
[20:46] <elfy> do we need it trasnlating into en_AU ... :p
[20:46] <knome> i'm happy as long as i can keep it translated for finnish ;)
[20:47] <elfy> :)
[20:47] <Noskcaj> elfy, yep ;)
[20:47] <elfy> Noskcaj: lol - I did check you were online before I asked 
[20:47] <Migou> knome, you're from finland?
[20:47] <knome> Migou, yep
[20:47] <Migou> nice to meet you
[20:48] <slickymaster> watch out Noskcaj, elfy might be weaving a web
[20:48] <knome> you too
[20:48] <Noskcaj> :)
[20:48] <Migou> is there a way to install an iso withour burning a CD ?
[20:48] <elfy> usb
[20:49] <Migou> so it requires a blank usb key, right?
[20:49] <elfy> Migou: you can install it to a usb - I use unetbootin
[20:49] <elfy> yea
[20:50] <Migou> cause i've got a 32 usb key, but it's a bit sad to sacrifice it :D
[20:50] <sergio-br2> are there things to be translated to portuguese (br) ?
[20:50] <sergio-br2> i think i can help
[20:50] <knome> sergio-br2, how different is that from portuguese?
[20:50] <knome> slickymaster translated the docs into portuguese already
[20:50] <sergio-br2> hum, ok
[20:51] <drc> Migou: You can use gparted to partition the USB, then unetboot to install to that partition and the rest of the USB stick is still available for use.
[20:51] <Migou> i'll try this.
[20:51] <Migou> thx
[20:51] <slickymaster> well knome, it's a bit the spoken english in the states and the spoken english in england
[20:51] <slickymaster> a b it like
[20:52] <slickymaster> ^~
[20:52] <knome> slickymaster, you mean, like en and en_AU :P
[20:52] <slickymaster> yeah, quite
[20:52] <slickymaster> there are differences in slang, mostly
[20:53] <knome> i wonder if it's different enough to warrant a separate translation
[20:53] <sergio-br2> about qa, i'm doing some hardware testing, but there is no qa to trusty. I have 3 (maybe 4) different hardwares here
[20:53] <knome> i mean, sure, if people want to port it, but it's quite a lot of work, and if strings change, it's double the work to maintain both languages
[20:53] <knome> sergio-br2, no qa to trusty? what do you mean?
[20:54] <sergio-br2> *no hardware qa to trusty, i mean laptop.qa
[20:54] <knome> sergio-br2, i see trusty daily in there
[20:54] <sergio-br2> there is only to saucy beta.
[20:55] <elfy> not sure that's being used 
[20:55] <slickymaster> knome,  from that point of view, there's no reason to maintain two separate translations even because there's an official orthographic agreement signed between the two countries
[20:55] <knome> slickymaster, :)
[20:55] <elfy> knome sergio-br2 it only appears to be ubuntu things in there anyway
[20:55] <sergio-br2> ?
[20:55] <knome> elfy, yes, but hardware stuff is the same in all flavors, so...
[20:56] <knome> i don't know how the laptop tracker is supposed to be organized
[20:56]  * elfy is waiting for Scotland to seperate from England and then get loads of karma for setting up en_HA
[20:56] <knome> i'd ask balloons
[20:56] <elfy> HA being short for haggis
[20:56] <knome> elfy, en_HAH
[20:56] <elfy> HAG
[20:56] <elfy> :p
[20:56] <slickymaster> sergio-br2, one thing you can do is to register your hardware ate https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware
[20:57] <sergio-br2> yeah, i did it
[20:57] <slickymaster> ok
[20:57] <sergio-br2> 2 hardwares profiles
[20:57] <elfy> knome: I've never really seen much reference to laptop.qa - certainly not in the last cycle and a bit - perhaps autopilot has taken over from it
[20:58] <knome> no idea
[20:58] <slickymaster> elfy knome , I think https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-laptop-testing is still active
[21:01] <elfy> might be - but if you follow it to the /plans/laptoptesting - it is old
[21:06] <sergio-br2> so, only important is iso and packages qa?
[21:06] <elfy> sergio-br2: as far as I am aware yes
[21:07] <brainwash> bluesabre: mugshot only creates a copy of the selected picture (~/.face) and does not use accountsservice?
[21:07] <sergio-br2> and for iso, alpha 1 or daily? i'm not using alpha 1 anymore
[21:08] <brainwash> bluesabre: and I noticed that menulibre is present twice in the settings manager (personal + system subsection)
[21:08] <elfy> sergio-br2: always daily unless there is a CURRENT call for a specific alpha/beta test
[21:09] <sergio-br2> ok
[21:09] <elfy> in fact you should only be able to report to the one we want testing :)
[21:09] <elfy> we mark them ready or closed or remove them if necessary
[21:17] <bluesabre> brainwash: to my understanding, thats all that needs to be done (.face)
[21:18] <bluesabre> and I'll fix the menulibre multiple menu items
[21:20] <elfy> bluesabre: is menulibre2 close? 
[21:22] <brainwash> bluesabre: well, setting the picture via accountsservice seems to be the better method, on top of that, it would be nice if the picture could be copied somewhere to / (in case the user has an encrypted /home)
[21:23] <brainwash> or just ignore the people who encrypt /home?
[21:28] <ali1234> it should use a default image in the case of encrypted home
[21:29] <brainwash> by design?
[21:30] <bluesabre> elfy: very
[21:30] <bluesabre> will have the release this week
[21:30] <bluesabre> brainwash: I'll look at the accountsservice api
[21:30] <brainwash> ok
[21:33] <elfy> bluesabre: excellent - we can forge ahead soon getting testcase up and testing done on it :)
[21:34] <bluesabre> absolutely
[21:34] <bluesabre> sorry I haven't gotten it done sooner, life has been getting in the way increasingly these past few weeks
[21:34] <elfy> bluesabre: no worries - even if I do whine a lot :p
[21:34] <elfy> we all have one of those :)
[21:39] <knome> not sure of myself, but if elfy says so...
[21:39] <knome> ;)
[21:40] <elfy> knome: yep - you have a r/l - I noticed you saying you were going out earlier - or was it a lie :p
[21:40] <elfy> and you just lurked for 5 hours ... 
[21:41] <knome> haha ;)
[21:41]  * drc heard that he <was> going out, until the knomette said he had to wash up first, so he just lurked.
[21:42] <elfy> musthave been in #shimmer or something then :p
[21:42] <knome> i'll leave that undisclosed
[21:42] <knome> err
[21:42] <knome> disclosed
[21:42] <knome> :P
[21:52] <elfy> knome: you about tomorrow at all - I'm not working so more or less whenever
[22:01] <knome> elfy, trying to catch up with jjfrv8 at 16utc if that works at all for him; after that's good
[22:01] <elfy> ok - will be feeding kids at the zoo about 18-19~UTC
[22:01] <elfy> shouldn't take too long anyway :)
[22:02] <knome> oki
[22:02] <knome> after that works as well
[22:03] <elfy> ok - would be handy for me to know how many people are on the -dev list as well if you've got that raw data
[22:04] <knome> i do
[22:04] <knome> i can get it for you right now
[22:05] <elfy> thanks 
[22:21] <elfy> well - that'll do - night all
[23:33] <ochosi> brainwash: i would presume that this could be a solution: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.6/doc/man/man3/DPMSSetTimeouts.3.xhtml
[23:33] <ochosi> i'm just worried that if a new session gets started on VT8 after someone from VT7 has locked their session, they would inherit the DPMS setting (as xfce-session doesn't touch those values)
[23:34] <ochosi> well, unless powermanager gets fixed up to take care of that
[23:34] <ali1234> wouldn't it be a totally new X server instance?
[23:34] <ali1234> so it shouldn't keep anything like DPMS
[23:35] <ali1234> but don't quote me on that
[23:35] <ochosi> you mean the greeter on VT8 and the session on VT8 (after logging in) are different X-server instances?
[23:36] <ali1234> no
[23:36] <ali1234> but that instance shouldn't inherit anything from VT7
[23:36] <ochosi> but that is my concern
[23:36] <ochosi> ok, what i meant is this. active session in vt7 -> lock (i.e. dpms timeout of 1min in greeter on vt8) -> other_user logs in on greeter on vt8 -> session on vt8 still has that timeout of 1min dpms
[23:37] <ali1234> ah yes, that could be a problem i suppose
[23:37] <ochosi> although well
[23:37] <ali1234> make the greeter undo whatever it does?
[23:37] <ochosi> if i can modify those settings, i can also query and reset them...
[23:37] <ali1234> right
[23:37] <ochosi> in fact, this seems to be a good sample implementation: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/blockdpy.c
[23:38] <ochosi> btw, do you by any chance use the greeter with a static wallpaper?
[23:38] <ali1234> static?
[23:38] <ochosi> (i.e. not the one xfdesktop uses via accountsservice)
[23:38] <ochosi> (but the one defined in the greeter.conf)
[23:39] <ali1234> yes, but only because i have a newer xfdesktop installed, and the greeter/accounts service cannot get my user wallpaper
[23:39] <ochosi> could you do me a favor and test the latest greeter for me like that?
[23:39] <ali1234> my machine is currently saucy with a load of bodges installed
[23:39] <ochosi> i'm mostly wondering whether fake transparency still works
[23:39] <ochosi> yeah, same here...
[23:40] <ochosi> but my accountsservice is somehow borked, i use xfdesktop from the 4.12ppa, which should have the accountsservice patch (or so i thought)
[23:40] <ochosi> i just pushed a fix for using a fixed background color, but i can't test a static wallpaper
[23:40] <ali1234> if you select guest login that should be equivalent to no user wallpepr
[23:40] <ochosi> cause it just has some old accountsservice setting that i can't seem to reset
[23:40] <ochosi> ah right
[23:40] <ochosi> well, as that one works, i guess we're safe
[23:41] <ochosi> just noticed after bluesabre had already merged my branch that the static color isn't handled
[23:41] <ali1234> the wallpaper loading code is very simple, i can't see any reason it would not work
[23:41] <ali1234> it all goes through the same function where you dup the pointer
[23:41] <ali1234> solid colour is handled differently
[23:41] <ochosi> yeah, with the exception of the color
[23:42] <ochosi> anyway, i guess before i can look into the dpms thing, i have to fix the background drawing with nouveau :(
[23:42] <ochosi> there's always garbled stuff from previous sessions there as a background
[23:42] <ochosi> (only with nouveau, as far as i could determine up to now)
[23:43] <ali1234> always?
[23:43] <ochosi> pretty consistently, yes
[23:43] <ali1234> as in you never see the correct wallpaper at all?
[23:43] <ochosi> some problem with how nouveau handles (or doesn't handle?) the root pixmap
[23:44] <ochosi> i checked out unity-greeter, and that has a separate window for the background
[23:44] <ochosi> that implementation seems to work
[23:44] <ali1234> yeah
[23:44] <ochosi> so i started working on that, just putting a separate window containing the same thing a the root-pixmap on top of it but below everything else
[23:45] <ochosi> and then drawing the background there with cairo
[23:45] <brainwash> ochosi: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.6/doc/man/man3/XGetScreenSaver.3.xhtml
[23:45] <ochosi> it's annoying, i don't use nouveau, but since ppl get that by default in xubuntu with nvidia graphics, i guess we better make sure the greeter works with that
[23:45] <brainwash> just to blank the screen
[23:46] <brainwash> not to turn if off
[23:46] <ochosi> brainwash: why not turn it off?
[23:48] <brainwash> uhm
[23:48] <brainwash> so no more plain blanking?
[23:49] <brainwash> just force dpms
[23:49] <ochosi> dunno, i'll try your suggestion first
[23:49] <ochosi> it's a lot easier to implement
[23:49] <ochosi> basically two lines i think
[23:49] <brainwash> lets stay with blanking and make it configurable
[23:51] <brainwash> but the actual login screen should not be affected, right?
[23:51] <brainwash> only unlock one
[23:51] <ochosi> yeah, it'd only affect lock-screens
[23:51] <brainwash> lock_hint
[23:51] <ochosi> yup
[23:52] <ochosi> testing this now, brb
[23:52] <brainwash> so we need to tell light-locker to trigger 'lock' instead of 'switch-to-greeter' when resuming the system
[23:52] <brainwash> to pass the lock_hint
[23:53] <brainwash> otherwise the lock screen will behave differently in this scenario
[23:53] <brainwash> and not blank after 1min or so
[23:55] <ochosi> ok, that works
[23:56] <ochosi> but it has the effect i described earlier, so i need to first get the default values and the reset them before exiting the greeter
[23:56] <ochosi> so it really will be a very tiny patch in the end, i hope
[23:57] <brainwash> yea
[23:57] <brainwash> The XGetScreenSaver function gets the current screen saver values.
[23:57] <ochosi> i know
[23:57] <ochosi> i'm just wondering whether we really want to make our greeter.conf file even longer
[23:57] <ochosi> or just set sensible defaults
[23:57] <brainwash> so, should it be configurable via lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf?
[23:57] <brainwash> the timeout value I mean
[23:58] <ochosi> (i mean setting sensible defaults is out of the question anyway)
[23:58] <ochosi> maybe
[23:58] <ochosi> i think i'll first implement them hardcoded, we can make them configurable later
[23:58] <brainwash> right
[23:58] <ochosi> i also want some more testing as to whether resetting the values works
[23:59] <ochosi> i've also never really tested it in a multihead setup
[23:59] <ochosi> i currently just get the default display, also when locking the display
[23:59] <brainwash> so multi monitor setups will cause some trouble