[01:03] <CyL> Hi, I've created a $HOME/.local/bin directory and throwed a few executables in the and added that directory to my path, somehow bash is not able to find that files, any clue?:
[01:06] <knome> CyL, did you mark them as executables and if you are running from a terminal emulator, did you relaunch the emulator?
[01:53] <HypothesisFrog> hi.
[01:53] <HypothesisFrog> I'm trying to connect to a new router by ethernet. A TPLink w8960n. I just can't seem to connect at all.
[01:53] <HypothesisFrog> how do I fault find the problem?
[01:54] <Maxwell> Hi everyone
[01:55] <Maxwell> If anyone can help, I have a technical question:  My system sounds, internet sounds, and Banshee are all working just fine.  However, both VLC and Spotify are completely silent when I play music or play a video.  Why is that happening?
[02:15] <xubuntu342> hello
[04:37] <xubuntu082> Hello! Anyone fixed the wifi correct password rejection bug yet?
[04:37] <holstein> xubuntu082: whats the bug#?
[04:39] <xubuntu082> 13.10 32 bit -- I enter the correct wpa2 password but authentication is rejected - wont connect
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu082: do you have the bug #?
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu082: is it with your specific chip?
[04:40] <xubuntu082> no it's specific to debian based distros going back several years but I dont know if its been reported on xu
[04:40] <xubuntu082> I've tried both a realtek 8185 and atheros 9200 based mini pci
[04:41] <holstein> xubuntu082: im currently connected to wpa without that issue. so, id say, assuming if it was a bug, it has been fixed, and you are experiecing another issue
[04:41] <holstein> xubuntu082: lots of folks connect to wpa
[04:41] <xubuntu082> well interestingly tails live 7 is the only distro from the past 3-4 years that works for me with wpa2 on my laptop
[04:42] <holstein> xubuntu082: yeah? i have been using wpa for years. no trouble on any linux
[04:42] <xubuntu082> and I know tails is debian based but what did they fix?
[04:42] <holstein> xubuntu082: i dont think "they" fixed anything.. i think it could be something on your end
[04:43] <xubuntu082> well I've tried wicd and the default wireless managers from ubuntu, xub, debian, mint, etc. they all fail the same way
[04:43] <xubuntu082> but there is nothing wrong with the laptop or wireless cards - they work in windows and Puppy 4's.
[04:43] <holstein> xubuntu082: they all succeed the same way for me and many others. no one usually comes and says "wpa doent work".. it works
[04:43] <xubuntu082> Kernel issue?
[04:43] <holstein> xubuntu082: i dont think so, friend
[04:44] <holstein> xubuntu082: i have that kernel, and im typing over wpa with an atheros chip
[04:44] <xubuntu082> well this is wpa2, and the hardware is ok - I'm not sure what to check with xub or other distros.
[04:44] <holstein> could be something with the router
[04:44] <holstein> xubuntu082: wpa2.. same
[04:44] <xubuntu082> no, tried two routers. one dd-wrt, the other stock netgear
[04:44] <holstein> xubuntu082: check and try different configurations on the router
[04:44] <xubuntu082> tried static and dhcp
[04:44] <xubuntu082> hidden ssid, open ssid
[04:44] <holstein> xubuntu082: sure.. but you are configuring them each time.. so try different configrations
[04:45] <xubuntu082> I'
[04:45] <holstein> xubuntu082: can you connect with no encryption?
[04:45] <xubuntu082> yes
[04:45] <holstein> then, use the machine and the router you can connect to, and mess with the settings in wpa, keeping in mind that it does work for many if not all
[04:45] <xubuntu082> now in order to get video to work I have to acpi=off nomodeset. but the wireless card is still detected and scans
[04:46] <xubuntu082> it just wont connect. wpa supplicant bug?
[04:46] <holstein> xubuntu082: i have experienced out at access points in public places not being able to connect before
[04:46] <holstein> xubuntu082: i dont think its a bug, friend
[04:46] <xubuntu082> well the last version of ubuntu that supported this hardware is 9.04
[04:46] <holstein> xubuntu082: im on .. with wpa and wpa2.. using that kernel and that suplicant..
[04:47] <holstein> xubuntu082: the hardware vendor supported 9.04 last?
[04:47] <xubuntu082> yes, ubuntu 9.04 and Debian 5
[04:47] <holstein> are you trying to use those 9.04 drivers? i would just use what is in the kernel
[04:47] <xubuntu082> no I dban prior to every install
[04:48] <holstein> xubuntu082: im not following
[04:48] <xubuntu082> fresh install. no upgrades
[04:48] <holstein> xubuntu082: whats is 9.04 referecing?
[04:49] <xubuntu082> ubuntu 9.04 worked with my very common ati video card and the realtek wireless card. but good luck finding 9.04 repos that are still online
[04:49] <xubuntu082> I'm running a gateway ml-3109. Doesn't support pae or kms but I've disabled kms at boot and I run the non pae kernel
[04:49] <holstein> xubuntu082: 9.04 is EOL... but, those drivers might have been removed from the modern kernel, but should be able to be added if you need them. 9.04 repos are down, intentionally
[04:50] <xubuntu082> problem is the drivers are still there the cards scan, they just don't connect
[04:50] <holstein> xubuntu082: if you are not using a kernel from the repos, that could be the issue.. you would need to try and get support from whom ever is providing the drivers
[04:50] <xubuntu082> some issue with wpa2 is my theory since the drivers are supplied by ubuntu
[04:50] <xubuntu082> or debian
[04:50] <xubuntu082> or mint. I haven't messed with the drivers
[04:51] <holstein> xubuntu082: im on wpa2.. so, if that helps you with the theory
[04:51] <xubuntu082> what hardware are you using?
[04:51] <holstein> xubuntu082: folks connect to wpa regularly
[04:51] <holstein> xubuntu082: every chip in the house.. broadcoms.. atheros.. whatever
[04:51] <xubuntu082> doubtful, based on my experience.
[04:53] <xubuntu082> I see some ubuntu forums back to 2010 with this issue but haven't found the bug report yet
[04:53] <xubuntu082> so apparently I'm not the only victim
[04:53] <holstein> xubuntu082: sure.. we can find a person who cant connect with wpa, but its not a bug
[04:53] <holstein> xubuntu082: folks connect... you are not a "victim" of anything regardless
[04:54] <xubuntu082> ok, frustrated potential user who can't afford to buy a new laptop every 6 months?
[04:54] <holstein> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[04:54] <holstein> xubuntu082: i dont buy laptops every 6 months, and im using wpa2
[04:55] <holstein> xubuntu082: i do replace chips if they are problematic.. i replaced a new broadcom one because the driver support was hit and miss for me
[04:55] <xubuntu082> ok well I see forums from 2010 to 2013 with the password rejection issue - it appears to be fairly common
[04:56] <holstein> xubuntu082: all i have constructive is this.. whatever issue you are having is not xubuntu related specifically, so you can go to the main larger #ubuntu community and mailing lists
[04:56] <xubuntu082> what confuses me is the iphone, ipad, and other laptop on my network use the same wifi password with no issues
[04:56] <holstein> xubuntu082: i would not refer to it as "that wpa2 bug" since its really just your problem, it seems, and not a bug
[04:57] <holstein> xubuntu082: i understand it can be frustrating, and im not "kicking you out".. just trying to get you to a larger community of help
[04:57] <xubuntu082> a person knowledgeable about xubuntu would have been familiar with this bug and efforts being made to fix it. forgive me for confusing you with a knowledgeable person.
[07:54] <peyam> hej
[07:55] <peyam> Does anyone know how I can remove peyam@peyam : in terminal and make it something like "Peyam says:"
[08:09] <Sysi> peyam: edit ~/.bashrc, if there's a line starting PS1= edit it and if not, create it
[08:09] <peyam> Sysi, there is three ones
[08:10] <Sysi> one without 00;35 or such if you're not using colored prompt
[08:11] <Sysi> if you pastebin the file I can tell which line
[08:11] <Sysi> !pastebin
[08:11] <peyam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6737196/ Sysi
[08:15] <peyam> u see it Sysi
[08:15] <peyam> ?
[08:21] <Sysi> sorry got caught checking out something
[08:21] <peyam> I fixed it
[08:21] <Sysi> cool
[08:22] <Sysi> you need to understand bash scripting to understand debian/ubuntu overcomplicated bashrc
[08:22] <peyam> yes I gues its time to learn
[08:26] <peyam> Sysi, How do I write a new line in Bash? like \n in c
[08:42] <lelo> hi all :)  anyone can help me with the issue "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"? on 13.10
[08:50] <bekks> lelo: Are you trying to boo a cd / an usb?
[08:51] <lelo> an usb
[08:51] <bekks> How did you create it?
[08:51] <lelo> with 'dd' command and with unetbootin
[08:52] <bekks> Did you check the md5sum of the iso before?
[08:52] <lelo> yup
[08:52] <lelo> md5 and sha
[09:21] <Linnak> Hi, I've installed compiz on XFCE Debian based distro.  I onyly want to use the magic lamp effect for minimizing windows, but if I start compiz --replace it changes the window border which is not resizable and sticks on the top right corner. I use greybird theme and greybird wondows, but the error message is: couldn't fing gtk-theme-manager for Aidwata or something like that. I've also insalled a couple of gtk window manager
[09:21] <Linnak> It's Xubuntu actually. I've just copy paste on more IRC channel
[09:22] <well_laid_lawn> Linnak:  try in #compiz if no one here knows
[09:22] <well_laid_lawn> !compiz
[09:23] <Linnak> Ther is noone on that channel
[09:23] <well_laid_lawn> probably wrong time of day
[09:24] <Linnak> ok. thanks
[10:02] <peyam> Hi
[10:02] <peyam> http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/012/9/f/devianart_by_peyam30-d71v83g.png
[10:02] <peyam> what you think about this guys?
[10:40] <apothecarius> hey I have a really weird bug, most times when the computer boots up it has some sort of terminal on the screen, and when you press return it logs out
[14:00] <jarnos> Why can't I run exo-desktop-item-edit by gksudo?
[14:12] <vincentvdbergh1> test123
[14:12] <vincentvdbergh1> looks like my irc settings and networking settings work :P
[16:14] <Ofloo> hey, .. where can i put my findings, .. cause 14 looks nice so far however panel is broken, .. and the default language was/is bangladesh
[16:15] <elfy> Ofloo: hi and welcome
[16:15] <elfy> that's a known bug :) bug 1259525
[16:15] <Ofloo> oh ok..
[16:16] <elfy> you can boot it ok if you want to - top right for language and session menus - set language to english (or whatever) use xubuntu as username THEN set session to xubuntu and you should boot ok
[16:16] <elfy> thanks for testing it though :)
[16:16] <Ofloo> however the icon theme looks way better
[16:16] <Ofloo> no i know how to change the language
[16:16] <Ofloo> though ;)
[16:17] <Ofloo> still on live cd
[16:17] <Ofloo> was trying to recreate the livecd
[16:17] <Ofloo> i mean panel
[16:17] <elfy> ok :)
[16:17] <Ofloo> how do i make the docky appear
[16:17] <elfy> yea - that's because you're in an xfce session
[16:17] <Ofloo> the default one
[16:18] <elfy> logout - go to tty1 or something rm the .config then log back in with the right session and it should work
[16:18] <Ofloo> i do love the now look, .. it's a lot more clean at least it gives that impression
[16:18] <elfy> Ofloo: next time you have issues with a dev version - better to use xubuntu-devel or the ubuntu+1 channels - so we keep this channel for released versions
[16:19] <Ofloo> k thanks elfy
[16:19] <elfy> Ofloo: yea - I have the gtk3 indicators/new tabwin and a few other bits and bobs here too
[16:36] <Ofloo> does this still exist, .. while ago when you had like drivers for 13.04 you could install backports to make them work i remember, ..
[16:36] <Ofloo> that feature does that still exist?
[16:39] <elfy> backports is still there - but there's nothing there in 14.04 as far as I know
[16:40] <bekks> elfy: yeah, backports is empty for 14.04
[16:41] <elfy> bekks: ty for confirmation
[16:51] <Orioa> can someone help me i want to postion my seond monitor to the left of laptop monitor but keep task bar on the laptop monitor
[19:26] <dieguezz> hi, is it possible to install plex in xubuntu_
[19:26] <dieguezz> ?
[19:26] <holstein> dieguezz: nothing about xubuntu prevents it.. AFAIK, plex has servers and clients for linux
[19:27] <holstein> https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/26727-how-to-plex-media-server-on-ubuntu/ is where i would start
[19:31] <dieguezz> ty holstein
[21:05] <spicypixel> any highlights to what 14.04 brings over 13.10?
[21:06] <knome> spicypixel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/
[21:06] <spicypixel> thanks!
[21:07] <spicypixel> any of the major bugs listed on the alpha 1 page been squashed in the daily builds?
[21:13] <brainwash> spicypixel: just check the linked launchpad reports
[21:13] <spicypixel> will do
[21:14] <brainwash> these reports are used to track the status and progress
[21:15] <spicypixel> yeah, looking now
[21:16] <spicypixel> the consensus seems to be the 64bit iso is a better choice now?
[21:17] <knome> based on what information?
[21:17] <holstein> spicypixel: i would just let the amount of ram you have help decide. "better" is always a matter of opinion and use case
[21:17] <spicypixel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/ >> *Promoting 64-bit images by default
[21:17] <spicypixel> yeah I have 8GB
[21:17] <knome> spicypixel, yes, under the title "Things to investigate"
[21:18] <holstein> spicypixel: on the machines i have 8gb's on, i use 64bit
[21:18] <knome> spicypixel, ubuntu does that now by default, so it's probably something for us to consider as well
[21:18] <spicypixel> I thought it was a marketing issue and that the technical reasons for it being a good idea to promote it had been done, fair enough
[21:18] <elfy> I use it on this one with 4Gb
[21:18] <spicypixel> I'll download the 64bit iso and give it a shot
[21:19] <knome> we technically have the same reasons to promote it over 32bit than ubuntu
[21:19] <kRush> I read systemd there.. *shudder*
[21:20] <spicypixel> nice, just reading about how xfce 4.12 got delayed
[21:21] <spicypixel> been a while since I used xubuntu, used it as my distro of choice back for 12.10
[21:27] <jarnos> How do you use the "file:" thing with appfinder?
[22:02] <jarnos> nevermind
[22:25] <SatanicDolphin> hello?
[22:29] <xubuntu163> is there an update for drop box to install the menu options that are available for Ubuntu.  for example, "copy public link"
[22:29] <xubuntu163> ill be right back the game is on...lol xbuntu RULES!
[22:31] <SatanicDolphin> can anyone help me? i was just wondering if you could get xubuntu to boot of a usb the same way as a harddrive?
[22:32] <slickymaster> SatanicDolphin, http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[22:32] <slickymaster> SatanicDolphin, sorry, wrong link
[22:32] <slickymaster> SatanicDolphin, http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.pt/2013/04/how-to-install-xubuntu-on-usb-device.html
[22:33] <SatanicDolphin> thanks
[22:34] <SatanicDolphin> so this will run like a normal hd or will this prompt for installing it / trying it?
[22:35] <jarnos> xubuntu163, I guess not in Thunar. You may use Nautilus for those.
[22:36] <slickymaster> After installing it in the USB stick, it will run like a normal HD but you must change your boot settings so that your PC will boot on USB instead of HD
[22:36] <slickymaster> SatanicDolphin, ^^
[22:36] <SatanicDolphin> alrighty thank you :)
[22:56] <spicypixel> any easy way to have xfce emulate windows in respect to the titles in the panel at the bottom? right now when the title gets too long it just loops around to the second line slightly off screen instead of fading out or using ellipsis
[22:56] <spicypixel> ?
[22:56] <spicypixel> basically button labels are too long =\
[22:57] <spicypixel> http://i.imgur.com/7YvKAZm.png example, hexchat at the bottom
[22:59] <spicypixel> I get a feeling I am better off asking in #xfce but I didn't know if it was xubuntu specific
[23:01] <xubuntu163> how about getting xubuntu to connect to the internet faster.  there is a delay.  xubuntu on my 32 bit machine connects immediately
[23:01] <holstein> xubuntu163: wifi? its likely related to the wifi drivers
[23:02] <xubuntu163> not wifi
[23:02] <Orioa> good question would be interested in knowing it as well
[23:02] <xubuntu163> the 32 bit version connectrs instantly
[23:02] <holstein> i would still tink the main difference would be the drivers, unless you have tried the 32bit and 64bit on the same hardware
[23:03] <xubuntu163> and we need a drop box update to link up folder stuff
[23:03] <xubuntu163> hmm so another ethernet driver might work bettr?
[23:19] <Orioa> does anyone know how to set dual monitors so that second monitor is to the left of laptop monitor with out the task bar going to second monitor