| jarkko | is that image thing automated or does someone take care it manually? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | the alpha was packaged | 00:00 |
| valorie | the dailies are automated | 00:00 |
| valorie | see kubuntu.org for more details | 00:01 |
| jarkko | when does Kubuntu 12.04 LTS (Long Term Support) end? | 00:01 |
| pnunn | anyone using a different doc in Kubutu? | 00:01 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | 2017 | 00:02 |
| valorie | different doc? | 00:06 |
| valorie | can you explain what you mean, pnunn | 00:06 |
| pnunn | valorie: I'm experimenting with cario dock which is proving reasonably good (although missing some notifications I use) but was wondering if there are any others I should look at. | 00:07 |
| valorie | ah, dock | 00:08 |
| valorie | got it | 00:08 |
| valorie | !cairo | 00:08 |
| valorie | ok..... | 00:08 |
| valorie | !info cairo dock | 00:08 |
| ubottu | 'dock' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable | 00:08 |
| valorie | pfff | 00:08 |
| valorie | pnunn: one can use all or part of xfce, unity, gnome, kde, and lxde | 00:12 |
| jarkko | do you have any clue how many people work on kubuntu fixing bugs etc | 00:12 |
| valorie | I've seen people use even more minimal stuff and still say they were running (sorta) kubuntu | 00:12 |
| valorie | jarkko: 20 or 30? | 00:12 |
| valorie | the #kubuntu-devel chan has ~100 nicks | 00:13 |
| pnunn | thanks valorie: I'm looking at stuff that runs on top of kwin at the moment (which cario dock does). Just a change of pace, not sure if I'll stick with it or not. | 00:13 |
| naught101 | On my laptop (saucy), usb flash drives aren't auto mounting. I can mount them manually with 'mount' on the command line. | 00:52 |
| naught101 | Anyone knw what the problem might be? | 00:52 |
| naught101 | never mind, somehow the device notifier was missing from my task bar... | 00:55 |
| === naught102 is now known as naught101 | ||
| === michael__ is now known as Guest42892 | ||
| apb1963 | I get lots of crashes of various apps... and load spikes that are significant - up to 30 and over sometimes. Even when my load hovers around 1.0 the machine is sluggish, and causes problems with softphone conversations: jitsi, sflphone, zoiper. | 02:43 |
| valorie | can you talk about one application? | 02:43 |
| valorie | have you filed a bug when it last crashed? | 02:43 |
| valorie | using the cli: ubuntu-bug app-name is probably the easiest | 02:46 |
| valorie | and, does Dr. Konqui come up when there is a crash? | 02:46 |
| apb1963 | No apport-kde generally comes up | 02:47 |
| apb1963 | Or apport perhaps... I forget. | 02:47 |
| valorie | that's another painless way to file a bug | 02:47 |
| valorie | right, apport is the ubuntubug cli | 02:48 |
| valorie | I mean gui | 02:48 |
| valorie | sheesh | 02:48 |
| apb1963 | But it generally fails because it's a third party app.. such as libreoffice. though krunner likes to crash fairly often | 02:48 |
| apb1963 | My primary concern right now is really this sluggishness | 02:49 |
| apb1963 | And load spiking | 02:50 |
| apb1963 | Which are somewhat related I presume | 02:50 |
| valorie | I'm sure you run top occasionally | 02:50 |
| apb1963 | all the time... almost constantly | 02:50 |
| valorie | but there is another top variant.... | 02:50 |
| apb1963 | htop | 02:50 |
| valorie | yes | 02:50 |
| valorie | and does that shed any light? | 02:51 |
| apb1963 | I also run sar, vmstat and various others | 02:51 |
| apb1963 | Sometimes. Chrome is a frequent offender | 02:51 |
| valorie | the krunner system monitor is a good one as well | 02:51 |
| valorie | hmmm, I run chromium | 02:52 |
| apb1963 | "system monitor" ? | 02:52 |
| valorie | yes, click the little icon to the left of the input field | 02:52 |
| apb1963 | Yeah, I've run that before... I don't recall it helping much, other than to show me that my cpu's were running high... which I already knew. | 02:53 |
| apb1963 | input field... of what? | 02:53 |
| valorie | I like that you can filter by process | 02:53 |
| valorie | of krunner | 02:53 |
| apb1963 | I don't know if I run krunner? All I know is I get crash reports nearly daily | 02:54 |
| valorie | alt+f2 is krunner | 02:54 |
| apb1963 | Never did that before | 02:54 |
| valorie | odd that it crashes for you | 02:54 |
| valorie | never crashes for me | 02:54 |
| valorie | I use krunner all the time | 02:55 |
| apb1963 | I think it just crashed... tell you in a minute | 02:55 |
| valorie | as a launcher | 02:55 |
| apb1963 | Yep... just crashed | 02:55 |
| valorie | it does a lot of other stuff too, but i always forget | 02:55 |
| valorie | strange | 02:55 |
| apb1963 | I've been sending those bug reports for months | 02:55 |
| apb1963 | "internal error" | 02:56 |
| apb1963 | It does bring up the little search window though | 02:56 |
| valorie | ha, so much for helpful error messages | 02:57 |
| apb1963 | yeah.. now I rememeber system monitor... basically a pretty version of top | 02:57 |
| valorie | apb1963: are you getting any feedback from the devels? | 02:58 |
| apb1963 | no | 02:58 |
| valorie | that sucks a bit | 02:58 |
| valorie | I hear there is a rewrite of krunner coming along though | 02:58 |
| apb1963 | I'm not sure they would know how to contact me | 02:58 |
| valorie | well, if you have problems with the plasma desktop, #plasma is the place to ask | 02:59 |
| apb1963 | whoa... here's something I've never seen before...the error message is threaded | 02:59 |
| valorie | stuff like libreoffice and chrome -- you already know | 02:59 |
| apb1963 | chrome... doesn't seem to have any useful public interface channel | 03:00 |
| valorie | if you file bugs on either launchpad (packaging problems) or bko (bugs.kde.org) for KDE bugs, you should get 'bug mail' to the email account you used for your account | 03:01 |
| valorie | such mail tends to get buried for me, since sometimes the contact is weeks or months after I filed | 03:01 |
| apb1963 | Right... but I'm talking about these automated reports | 03:02 |
| apb1963 | not to pile up the conversations but.... I wonder if perhaps starting up system monitor is the reason why apport suddenly decided to include tons of info. | 03:03 |
| valorie | that I don't know | 03:03 |
| valorie | the auto-reports certainly are looked at, for some value of grep | 03:04 |
| apb1963 | now that apport has decided to cooperate, one item of note that is interesting is that it claims krunner is a third party package | 03:04 |
| apb1963 | sure would be nice if I could copy and paste this bug report | 03:05 |
| valorie | you should be able to | 03:06 |
| apb1963 | Right click? | 03:06 |
| valorie | control a, control c | 03:06 |
| apb1963 | ctrl a does nothing | 03:06 |
| valorie | hmmm, doesn't select all the text? | 03:07 |
| apb1963 | no | 03:07 |
| valorie | :( | 03:07 |
| valorie | and right-click doesn't offer you that option? | 03:07 |
| valorie | it's been forever since I saw apport | 03:07 |
| apb1963 | nope | 03:07 |
| valorie | !apport | 03:07 |
| valorie | pfff | 03:08 |
| apb1963 | krunner crashed with TypeError in prepare(): prepare() takes no arguments (1 given) <<< lovely | 03:08 |
| apb1963 | I can copy line by line | 03:08 |
| valorie | oh, how sucky | 03:08 |
| valorie | !bug | 03:08 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers. | 03:08 |
| valorie | ok..... | 03:08 |
| apb1963 | (process:2314): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed | 03:09 |
| apb1963 | This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again. | 03:09 |
| apb1963 | /usr/bin/krunner | 03:10 |
| apb1963 | fascinating | 03:10 |
| apb1963 | kde-workspace-bin 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 [origin: LP-PPA-kubuntu-ppa-backports] | 03:10 |
| apb1963 | File "/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma_scriptengine_python/pyrunner.py", line 78, in prepare | 03:11 |
| valorie | yikes | 03:11 |
| apb1963 | and on and on | 03:11 |
| apb1963 | traceback, dependencies... all quite nice actually... if I could only copy it | 03:12 |
| valorie | well, apport shouldn't have come up for this KDE application | 03:13 |
| apb1963 | so another bug. | 03:13 |
| apb1963 | I'm kind of glad it did actually | 03:13 |
| valorie | so I guess this is one of the differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu with KDE on top | 03:13 |
| apb1963 | not kde necessarliy... but kubuntu-desktop | 03:14 |
| apb1963 | and my system is sluggish all this time... keyboard periodically takes several seconds to respond to my typing. | 03:15 |
| valorie | yes, this does not sound normal at all | 03:15 |
| valorie | however, I'm going afk to watch the golden globes right now | 03:16 |
| apb1963 | great | 03:16 |
| tertu | Apt seems to be hosed somehow, can somebody help? | 04:03 |
| tertu | "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." comes up when I try to install new packages. | 04:03 |
| tertu | apt upgrade seems to work | 04:03 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | sudo apt-get install -f | 04:03 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | also, did you use any PPAs recently? | 04:04 |
| tertu | nope. | 04:05 |
| tertu | i only have stock sources. | 04:06 |
| tertu | trying to install aptitude, for example, fails because aptitude apparently doesn't exist | 04:08 |
| tertu | firefox fails for that reason | 04:08 |
| tertu | yeah, i get "Package x is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source" | 04:09 |
| tertu | for quite a few things. | 04:09 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | hmm... | 04:12 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | maybe you should update your repos again. | 04:13 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | If you haven't mucked with them, theu might just be corrupt. | 04:13 |
| tertu | it turns out that i, for some reason, had two major software sources turned off | 04:14 |
| tertu | i don't recall doing this | 04:14 |
| tertu | i.e. the canonical packaged sources | 04:15 |
| tertu | it's working now,. | 04:15 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | cool | 04:16 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | odd, but cool. | 04:16 |
| nobby | test | 04:31 |
| uBUXUBu | hi | 04:55 |
| uBUXUBu | remote host got him | 04:57 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | Remote host and Peer are vicious. | 04:58 |
| novakitty | I use the Faenza icon theme and it seems to mess up the Kdenlive program icons. I was going to try one of the supplimental faenza themes from kde-look.org...but there's nothing but broken links on that site. Has anyone run into this and found an easy solution other than having to use Oxygen icons? | 07:53 |
| === saheb is now known as sahebpreet | ||
| === dheeraj is now known as sikarwar32 | ||
| === AntiSpamMeta_ is now known as AntiSpamMeta | ||
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:11 |
| === sebl__ is now known as sebl | ||
| emi_ | hi, I need help with usb modem e173 | 10:06 |
| emi_ | it's detected by system, but it doesn't want to connect | 10:07 |
| emi_ | network manager shows signal strenght, etc. | 10:07 |
| lolmaus | I would like to stack two panels at the same edge of the screen. How do i do that without them overlapping? | 10:58 |
| vmusr | is it possible to force kde into a diffrent resolution not supported by my monitor? | 11:35 |
| lordievader | vmusr: xrandr can do that. | 11:36 |
| lordievader | Not sure why you'd do that though. | 11:36 |
| vmusr | lordievader: I'm getting a can't open display with it | 11:39 |
| lordievader | vmusr: Are you running it in a tty or in the konsole? | 11:40 |
| vmusr | lordievader: tty - I'm connected from my tablet via NoMachine to the desktop, and I want't to force it a more suitable resolution. I'm separtly connected to the box via ssh | 11:42 |
| vmusr | lordievader: should I try it from konsole | 11:42 |
| lordievader | vmusr: Do you happen to know where your display is running? | 11:43 |
| vmusr | lordievader: you mean? | 11:43 |
| lordievader | vmusr: Well you can check, open a konsole (in kde) and run "echo $DISPLAY". | 11:44 |
| vmusr | lordievader: resolved, as you suggested I workded from Konsole and everything works fine :) | 11:57 |
| === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake | ||
| lordievader | vmusr: Ah good to hear :) | 13:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:27 |
| === trustythar is now known as Trustythar | ||
| harishnavnit | hi , can anyone please help me with installing nepomuk-core in kubuntu 12.04 LTS ? | 13:46 |
| harishnavnit | sudo apt-get install nepomuk-core returns | 13:47 |
| harishnavnit | E: Unable to locate package | 13:47 |
| Riddell | harishnavnit: sudo apt-get install nepomuk-core-dev | 13:49 |
| === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee | ||
| harishnavnit | this also returns the same error message | 13:50 |
| harishnavnit | E: Unable to locate package | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | harishnavnit, look in muon , make sure you have the universe repositories enabled | 13:57 |
| salaxnet | hi | 14:05 |
| salaxnet | question kdialog popup everytime i open chrome any ideas why? | 14:06 |
| salaxnet | popups* | 14:06 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Is it kwallet? | 14:07 |
| salaxnet | no chrome wants t save a imaginary file | 14:08 |
| salaxnet | to* | 14:08 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Hmm, haven't seen that before. | 14:08 |
| salaxnet | http://i.imgur.com/00z99wx.png | 14:10 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Is that tab "file://opt/..." in your start page tabs? | 14:11 |
| salaxnet | this is how chrome opens ay idea ? chrome settngs ? | 14:11 |
| salaxnet | settings* | 14:11 |
| salaxnet | yes | 14:11 |
| salaxnet | file:///opt/google/chrome/chrome/ | 14:13 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Any specific reason it should be among them? | 14:13 |
| salaxnet | plama icon only task maager migthy be a problem | 14:14 |
| salaxnet | since i pied in that specific widget | 14:15 |
| salaxnet | pinned* | 14:15 |
| salaxnet | manager* | 14:15 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Remove the "file://opt/..." from the pages chrome opens when starting up. | 14:16 |
| salaxnet | could you walk me throungh the process ? | 14:20 |
| salaxnet | through* | 14:21 |
| salaxnet | also does anybody know way to make drag and drop work on the desktop without the panels | 14:23 |
| salaxnet | you know the old kde 3 behaviour before plasma | 14:24 |
| salaxnet | ? | 14:24 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Open chrome and go to Settings. | 14:25 |
| salaxnet | ok | 14:26 |
| lordievader | Under 'On Startup' what is it set to? | 14:26 |
| salaxnet | Continue where I left off | 14:26 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Hmm, did you open the "file://opt/.." page laste time? | 14:27 |
| salaxnet | nope its automatic | 14:27 |
| lordievader | salaxnet: Interesting. What happens when you rename your chrome profile? | 14:30 |
| === soee_ is now known as soee | ||
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest33252 | ||
| jarkko | if i want to remove ati drivers and use open source instead, what's the correct way? | 15:35 |
| === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake | ||
| BluesKaj | jarkko, look for the ati drivers in muon and purge them, then install the new drivers and reboot | 15:38 |
| jarkko | but how do i make sure that open drivers are used instead? | 15:38 |
| lordievader | jarkko: Run "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA" if it says radeon for the driver you are using the opensource one. | 15:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 15:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | I want to mount a NTFS partition with 770 for files and 550 to dirs. How would I do that? | 15:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | sorry 660 for files | 15:54 |
| lordievader | ovidiu-florin: For as far as I know NTFS doesn't support Linux access permissions. | 15:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm aware of that | 15:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't know how mask works very clearly | 15:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | so I hoped someone can help me translate chmod to mask rights | 15:59 |
| lordievader | ovidiu-florin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446788 | 16:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | actually I'm searching for a more permanent solution | 16:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | like always mount ntfs with those permissions | 16:01 |
| jarkko | i removed ati drivers and reinstalled few xserver files | 16:05 |
| jarkko | after reboot normal boot doesnt work, but going recovery mode and resume boot goes to desktop | 16:05 |
| BluesKaj | jarkko, update and upgrade, you may need to bring in some libs that aren't installed | 16:07 |
| jarkko | i think there is some problem on linux support of 7870 | 16:08 |
| jarkko | i had problems installing manjaro and kubuntu | 16:08 |
| jarkko | there are no packages to download | 16:09 |
| jarkko | well i must be using the open source because dota went so slow | 16:09 |
| lordievader | jarkko: Have you checked if the opensource radeon driver supports the 7870? | 16:09 |
| jarkko | no, how do i even check that? | 16:10 |
| jarkko | ihad before 7770 and now 7870, the change between shouldnt be that big | 16:11 |
| jarkko | no wonder people complain about ati, if this is so slow | 16:11 |
| jarkko | i got decent hardware | 16:11 |
| lordievader | jarkko: This has some info about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver | 16:11 |
| jarkko | how do i check mesa version? | 16:12 |
| jarkko | i think its 9.x.x something, it reinstalled something like that | 16:13 |
| jarkko | glxinfo | 16:14 |
| jarkko | never remember | 16:14 |
| lordievader | glxinfo is in mesa-utils | 16:14 |
| lordievader | !info mesa-utils | 16:14 |
| ubottu | mesa-utils (source: mesa-demos): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.1.0-2 (saucy), package size 31 kB, installed size 115 kB | 16:14 |
| jarkko | is there any other way to upgrade to newest mesa other than self compile? | 16:15 |
| jarkko | well the desktop feels fast, even games doesnt | 16:16 |
| jarkko | 2d driver good shape | 16:16 |
| lordievader | jarkko: From the Ubu wiki: This driver's 3D is usually not as fast as the closed-source, proprietary "fglrx" driver from AMD/ATI Inc. for some cards | 16:18 |
| jarkko | well i know that but dota is unplayable at this rate | 16:18 |
| jarkko | there is something wrong in my install or the open source driver really sucks on 7870 | 16:18 |
| lordievader | Probably the second (in the 3d case). | 16:19 |
| === kevin is now known as Guest11631 | ||
| jarkko | but if the driver is so bad, how is it possible that people even play on linux...with ati | 16:20 |
| === sikarwar32 is now known as dheeraj_ | ||
| lordievader | jarkko: The fglrx driver is usually pretty good at 3d. The trouble just is getting it installed/working. | 16:22 |
| jarkko | the only problem with fglrx i had has been not able to install it on all kernels | 16:22 |
| BluesKaj | jarkko, there is an experimental mesa app you may want to try, libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental | 16:23 |
| jarkko | what does it do? | 16:23 |
| BluesKaj | jarkko, http://pastebin.kde.org/p39438c21 | 16:24 |
| jarkko | but its irritating that you should boot into failsave on every restart | 16:25 |
| jarkko | if i install that libraray does it automatically know what do ? | 16:26 |
| lordievader | jarkko: What driver are you currently using? | 16:26 |
| jarkko | i mean you have to just install it? | 16:26 |
| jarkko | i am not sure but i think i am back to open source | 16:26 |
| lordievader | jarkko: Could you pastebin the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"? | 16:26 |
| jarkko | http://pastebin.com/g5D8nvYE | 16:27 |
| lordievader | It seems the opensource driver is not loaded. | 16:28 |
| jarkko | but i dont have fully closed source driver either | 16:28 |
| lordievader | jarkko: What is the output of "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon"? | 16:28 |
| jarkko | http://pastebin.com/LXWmJ88C | 16:29 |
| lordievader | jarkko: Hmm, would the recoverymode disable the radeon driver... Do you have fragments of the fglrx driver still on your machine? | 16:31 |
| BluesKaj | jarkko, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes | 16:31 |
| jarkko | doesnt output nothing | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, the radeon driver is installed by deafult no matter which graphics card is installed | 16:34 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: I know, but a user can remove it. And it wasn't loaded. So I verified that it was installed ;) | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | jarkko, there should be some output from lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , make sure you incluse the quotes | 16:38 |
| BluesKaj | include | 16:38 |
| jarkko | nothing | 16:39 |
| jarkko | i copy pasted it | 16:39 |
| jarkko | with those sitates | 16:39 |
| === willy is now known as Guest44040 | ||
| rcw2 | how do i add livecd as a source | 16:40 |
| lordievader | No driver is loaded, that is why it doesn't return anything. So the question is, why doesn't he load the radeon driver. | 16:40 |
| rcw2 | to install a package | 16:40 |
| lordievader | jarkko, BluesKaj ^ | 16:40 |
| lordievader | jarkko: What was the issue again if you boot up in the normal mode? | 16:40 |
| jarkko | display goes blank | 16:41 |
| lordievader | jarkko: Can you get to a tty in the state? | 16:41 |
| jarkko | doesnt work | 16:41 |
| jarkko | it goes blind | 16:41 |
| jarkko | dont remember anymore how it went, but installing 13.10 wasnt easy either | 16:43 |
| lordievader | jarkko: Hmm, well that is annoying. I have to get some food. But I'm sure you and BluesKaj can figure some thing out. | 16:43 |
| jarkko | i think i used earlier kubuntu which i upgraded from console | 16:43 |
| jarkko | and used closed source drivers | 16:43 |
| jarkko | manjaro didnt work with free drivers | 16:43 |
| jarkko | there is somethign wrong with support of 7870 | 16:43 |
| jarkko | be back later | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | too bad he didn't try to determine the correct drivrername , could have modprobed it | 16:46 |
| rcw2 | how do i add whatever disk (in this case, kubuntu install disk) is in cdrom drive as a source in muon | 16:46 |
| rcw2 | ppa: something or other? | 16:46 |
| BluesKaj | ppas are usually added from theit host sites , not from the kubuntu cd | 16:47 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2,^ | 16:48 |
| BluesKaj | what app are you looking for, rcw2? | 16:48 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, build-essentials | 16:49 |
| rcw2 | i want to reference the install disk | 16:49 |
| BluesKaj | build-essential is in the repositories, sudo apt-get install build-essential | 16:51 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, i can't get internet on that computer right now | 16:51 |
| rcw2 | so i want to use the install disk | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | don't think it's on the live cd, but you can uncomment the cdrom source in /etc/apt/sources.list and try to install it with the live cd | 16:53 |
| BluesKaj | remove the # | 16:54 |
| genii | BluesKaj: build-essential should be on the install disk | 16:54 |
| BluesKaj | really genii ? | 16:54 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, should i be seeing something pointing to /dev/cdrom or something in sources.list | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, yes it should be the first source at the top | 16:55 |
| genii | BluesKaj: I'm like 90% sure when they discontinued alternate installer it was moved to the regular one | 16:56 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, ok, do i need to reload something or restart os now? | 16:56 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, load the live cd , and remove the #from the deb cdrom line in the sources.list | 16:58 |
| BluesKaj | then sudo apt-get update , then install build-essential | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | there's no "s" on essential btw | 17:00 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, i don't have 13.10 disk at the moment, how can i point towards 13.04 disk | 17:05 |
| rcw2 | in sources.list | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | recommend you download the 13.10 iso and burn it , you shouldn't mix and match apps from different OS versions | 17:07 |
| asla | has someone tried unvanquished | 17:15 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, i hear you, but i'd like to try. how do i find out my build for this line in sources.list? i have 'dev cdrom:[Kubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtale_ - release amd64] / Raring main restricted - but it is not correct | 17:16 |
| floown | hellobuntu ^^ | 17:20 |
| floown | Is there any file navigator in Kate ? | 17:20 |
| floown | I don't found the option | 17:20 |
| floown | * find | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, you have to put # in front of each line that begins with "deb" to prevent your sources list from changing to 13.04 when you update, except of course the "deb cdrom" line | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | floown, use dolphin | 17:22 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, ok. | 17:23 |
| rcw2 | what's the way to get the exact line contents i need now | 17:24 |
| rcw2 | any ideas? | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | you have to , sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get install build-essential | 17:26 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, my sources.list is bad. i need a new one | 17:27 |
| rcw2 | for 13.04 | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | you are only updating from the cdrom , no other sources , they are commented out if you followed the instructions i posted above | 17:28 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, if you run sudo apt-get update without an internet connection you will get errors | 17:30 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, errors or warnings | 17:31 |
| BluesKaj | both | 17:32 |
| rcw2 | i can do this though, right? | 17:32 |
| rcw2 | comment out everything, point to cdrom only, even with no inet connection, and get build-essential | 17:32 |
| BluesKaj | comment everything except the deb cdrom | 17:33 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, i did | 17:34 |
| rcw2 | the line is wrong, | 17:34 |
| rcw2 | somehow | 17:34 |
| rcw2 | (absolute dist) | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | are doing sudo apt-get update | 17:34 |
| rcw2 | yes | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | change the to 13.10 instead of 13.04. but that's a cheat which may not work | 17:36 |
| BluesKaj | line | 17:36 |
| rcw2 | didnt work | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | best to download and burn a cd on the pc you sre using right now | 17:37 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, can i use flash drive? how to point to it in sources.list? | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | that's all i can help you with | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | if you have the 13.10 iso on it , yes | 17:38 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, ok. | 17:38 |
| rcw2 | can you tell me how sources.list would be edited | 17:39 |
| rcw2 | modified* | 17:39 |
| BluesKaj | i have stuff to do now , good luck | 17:39 |
| BluesKaj | <bblk | 17:39 |
| rcw2 | to check for the flash | 17:39 |
| rcw2 | k thanks | 17:39 |
| === chaudhary is now known as Guest34448 | ||
| der-willy | moin | 19:05 |
| der-willy | woran kann es liegen wenn das lan nicht konfiguriebar ist_ | 19:06 |
| der-willy | IP configuration was unavailable | 19:08 |
| der-willy | wlan geht | 19:09 |
| BluesKaj | der, ipconfig | 19:09 |
| BluesKaj | der-willy,^ | 19:10 |
| der-willy | ipconifg findet die konsole nicht | 19:10 |
| BluesKaj | der-willy, english please | 19:11 |
| der-willy | ok, command not found for ipconfig | 19:11 |
| der-willy | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46 inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:7263 (7.2 KB) Interrupt:16 | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | sudo dhclient eth0, for ethernet , use wlan0 for wireless | 19:12 |
| Euclidis_ | Which version is available in the 'kubuntu-backports' ppa? | 19:13 |
| Euclidis_ | I meant KDE | 19:13 |
| der-willy | wireless is runing, no problems | 19:13 |
| der-willy | i run kubuntu live for testing | 19:13 |
| Euclidis_ | Is kde 4.11.4 available? | 19:14 |
| der-willy | wired interface failed to activate | 19:14 |
| Euclidis_ | Wich version of kde is available on ubuntu official repository? | 19:14 |
| der-willy | where do i see the versin, sorrz my first try for linux | 19:15 |
| Euclidis_ | Ok.. Thank you.. | 19:15 |
| Euclidis_ | der-willy: Of what? | 19:15 |
| der-willy | of kde | 19:15 |
| Euclidis_ | Open a kde app, help and 'about kde' | 19:16 |
| Euclidis_ | der-willy: On menu.. | 19:16 |
| der-willy | 4.11.2 | 19:16 |
| Euclidis_ | der-willy: Which O.S.? | 19:22 |
| lordievader | der-willy: What is the problem exactly? | 19:24 |
| lordievader | Also if you prefer there is a german ubuntu support. | 19:24 |
| lordievader | !german | 19:24 |
| ubottu | In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 19:24 |
| der-willy | kubuntukubuntu 13.10 | 19:25 |
| der-willy | wlan is running | 19:26 |
| der-willy | lan is connected but i have no interneaccess | 19:26 |
| Euclidis_ | der-willy: Dude, update your KDE: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kde-4-12-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ | 19:26 |
| lordievader | Euclidis_: If I understood der-willy correctly he is running a live-cd. | 19:27 |
| der-willy | ok, then i trz to install kubuntu, i now run the live cd onlz | 19:27 |
| der-willy | yez, but i can try | 19:27 |
| Euclidis_ | lordievader: Oh.. | 19:27 |
| Euclidis_ | I dindn't.. | 19:27 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Ok, and what was the output of BluesKaj suggestion (the "dhclient eth0" one)? | 19:28 |
| der-willy | I just installed windows new and can just delete it | 19:28 |
| der-willy | no output in the terminal window | 19:28 |
| Euclidis_ | I'm running 13.10 and following the link's steps, I haven't the 4.12 version rather.. | 19:28 |
| Euclidis_ | lordievader: Is there a way to get the newest version? | 19:29 |
| lordievader | der-willy: That is good, could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig eth0" again? | 19:29 |
| lordievader | Euclidis_: If the backports don't carry it, I'd just wait. | 19:29 |
| der-willy | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46 inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB) Interrupt:16 lo L | 19:29 |
| Euclidis_ | der-willy: You could use http://paste.kde.org to paste.. Isn't a mess. | 19:30 |
| Euclidis_ | lordievader: Which version are you running in kuubntu? | 19:30 |
| Euclidis_ | *kubuntu | 19:31 |
| der-willy | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46 inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB) Interrupt:16 lo L | 19:31 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Is the cable connected, and is there a dhcp server anywhere on that network? | 19:31 |
| lordievader | Euclidis_: This install runs 4.12.0 | 19:32 |
| der-willy | yes, the same i use for wlan | 19:32 |
| der-willy | grenn lamp | 19:32 |
| der-willy | green lamp is on | 19:32 |
| lordievader | der-willy: But if the wlan works does it really matter? (Especially for a live-cd) | 19:33 |
| der-willy | i want to copy data to my nas and wan a fast connection | 19:34 |
| der-willy | if this work i will install kubuntu | 19:34 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig wlan0"? | 19:35 |
| der-willy | windows 7 refused to connect to mz homenetwork | 19:35 |
| lordievader | !paste | 19:35 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:35 |
| lordievader | der-willy: ^ | 19:35 |
| der-willy | Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46 inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB) Interrupt:16 | 19:36 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Please read what I write, and please use paste.ubuntu.com for pasting output. | 19:37 |
| der-willy | how do i paste from paste.ubuntu.com | 19:38 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Do you have an internet connection on that live-cd? | 19:38 |
| der-willy | yes, i am on with the live cd | 19:38 |
| der-willy | http://pastebin.kde.org/pgwetguju | 19:38 |
| Euclidis_ | der-willy: Do you want enable the internet to run the installer? | 19:39 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Thank you. | 19:39 |
| der-willy | not in the moment, i like to know if it works before i install kubuntu | 19:40 |
| lordievader | der-willy: sudo ifconfig eth0 down&&sudo ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.0.77 netmask 255.255.255.0&&route add default gw 192.168.0.1 | 19:40 |
| lordievader | der-willy: And then see if eth0 has an ip, if so disconnect from the wifi and ping google (for example). | 19:41 |
| der-willy | SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted | 19:41 |
| der-willy | this may be the reason | 19:41 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Could very well be... | 19:42 |
| lordievader | der-willy: The kde network manager is no help either? | 19:42 |
| der-willy | any idea how to fix it | 19:42 |
| der-willy | i have the wrong keyboard ... | 19:43 |
| lordievader | I could probably fix it for a normal install, but not for a live-cd. | 19:43 |
| der-willy | may be i have to install kubunte to change some settinge | 19:43 |
| der-willy | ah ok, i start to install | 19:44 |
| der-willy | I am off now, thanks for the moment | 19:44 |
| lordievader | der-willy: Good luck. | 19:44 |
| der-willy | thanks | 19:45 |
| === default is now known as Guest85469 | ||
| === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee | ||
| === 18WAFK0WF is now known as ud | ||
| === dreeeepc is now known as Lcaracol | ||
| guest-over9000 | Hello All. Hello BluesKaj | 21:17 |
| BluesKaj | hi guest-over9000 | 21:18 |
| guest-over9000 | BluesKaj: I installed properly fgrlx drivers, but have dim laptop screen bug, I'm trying to fix that | 21:18 |
| guest-over9000 | So I have very black screen on my laptop (can't see almost nothing) but plugged it to tv by hdmi cabel | 21:19 |
| guest-over9000 | and right now I have screen on the telly (TV), but my laptop is soo dark :( | 21:19 |
| guest-over9000 | I have done this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887550&page=3&p=12063176#post12063176 but still no clue :( | 21:20 |
| guest-over9000 | Does anyone have any ideas ? I would be very, very happy if somebody would help me :( | 21:20 |
| genii | guest-over9000: Offhand, is this a Compaq Armada of some type? | 21:22 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: Asus K52JT | 21:23 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: Asus K52JT, ATI HD 6370M on board. | 21:23 |
| guest-over9000 | I am still looking for a solution, searching the web and still nothing. I set the maximum brightness in catalyst control center, and on the KDE settings panel, modified grub, installed programs to auto max brightness | 21:25 |
| guest-over9000 | and still nothing. | 21:26 |
| genii | guest-over9000: From what I'm reading at http://askubuntu.com/questions/310812/last-couple-of-fglrx-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04-have-backlight-support-broken seems the drivers prior to 13.8 have this backlight issue. | 21:28 |
| genii | !info fglrx | 21:28 |
| ubottu | fglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:13.101-0ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 48023 kB, installed size 140013 kB (Only available for amd64; i386) | 21:28 |
| === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake | ||
| guest-over9000 | genii: ehh I don't know what to do :( I will be back soon. Have to go for a short time | 21:31 |
| genii | guest-over9000: Does something like: xrandr --output --brightness 0.75 take? | 21:32 |
| genii | Bleh, left. | 21:32 |
| === rvraghav93 is now known as rvrg | ||
| b33zu | Hey guys I'm about to install this on my new laptop that has massively good specifications. It does have a 64 bit processor of course. My question is before downloading it recommends me to download the 32 bit not the 64 bit. Even though this is a general recommendation should I do the 32 bit over the 64 bit or does it matter? | 21:45 |
| b33zu | anyone?? | 21:48 |
| b33zu | I just went with the 64 bit. | 21:49 |
| soee | go for 64 | 21:50 |
| soee | im running it on my Dell inspiron and works perfect :) | 21:51 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: Okay I am back | 21:54 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: I wrote an e-mail to the AMD support about it | 21:55 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: I hope they will look in to it. Anyway I would like to thank You and BluesKaj for help. Thank You :) | 21:56 |
| genii | guest-over9000: You could try an xrandr command: xrandr --output --brightness # ... where # is from 0.00 ( darkest) to 1.00 ( brightest) ...good one to try would be something like 0.75 to see if it works | 22:02 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: mydevilroot@shelly-i7:~$ xrandr --output --brightness 0.75 xrandr: unrecognized option '0.75' | 22:07 |
| Willy | hello | 22:08 |
| === Willy is now known as Guest6556 | ||
| Der_Willy | hello,i cannot use lan | 22:11 |
| Der_Willy | wlan is working | 22:11 |
| guest-over9000 | genii: xbacklight -set 100, still dark :( | 22:15 |
| Der_Willy | https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kubuntu | 22:15 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Guest67712 | ||
| === Guest67712 is now known as lboken | ||
| lboken | hi all im installing a linux based un kubuntu and i wanted to know how much swaps again should i put (the sistem is only 32 since its they have released so far, but i have a 8 core, with 12 gig ram, if i remember i should put 8 gig for the swap right? | 22:45 |
| === jacky is now known as Jacky | ||
| pnunn | Am I the only one here that hates virtuoso-t? Its total crap. log full of segfaults which explains the high cpu load. | 23:49 |
| Der_willy | Hello | 23:57 |
| Der_willy | i have problem wit lan, wlan is running | 23:58 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
