[00:00] <jarkko> is that image thing automated or does someone take care it manually?
[00:00] <valorie> the alpha was packaged
[00:00] <valorie> the dailies are automated
[00:01] <valorie> see kubuntu.org for more details
[00:01] <jarkko> when does Kubuntu 12.04 LTS (Long Term Support) end?
[00:01] <pnunn> anyone using a different doc in Kubutu?
[00:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> 2017
[00:06] <valorie> different doc?
[00:06] <valorie> can you explain what you mean, pnunn
[00:07] <pnunn> valorie: I'm experimenting with cario dock which is proving reasonably good (although missing some notifications I use) but was wondering if there are any others I should look at.
[00:08] <valorie> ah, dock
[00:08] <valorie> got it
[00:08] <valorie> !cairo
[00:08] <valorie> ok.....
[00:08] <valorie> !info cairo dock
[00:08] <valorie> pfff
[00:12] <valorie> pnunn: one can use all or part of xfce, unity, gnome, kde, and lxde
[00:12] <jarkko> do you have any clue how many people work on kubuntu fixing bugs etc
[00:12] <valorie> I've seen people use even more minimal stuff and still say they were running (sorta) kubuntu
[00:12] <valorie> jarkko: 20 or 30?
[00:13] <valorie> the #kubuntu-devel chan has ~100 nicks
[00:13] <pnunn> thanks valorie: I'm looking at stuff that runs on top of kwin at the moment (which cario dock does). Just a change of pace, not sure if I'll stick with it or not.
[00:52] <naught101> On my laptop (saucy), usb flash drives aren't auto mounting. I can mount them manually with 'mount' on the command line.
[00:52] <naught101> Anyone knw what the problem might be?
[00:55] <naught101> never mind, somehow the device notifier was missing from my task bar...
[02:43] <apb1963>  I get lots of crashes of various apps... and load spikes that are significant - up to 30 and over sometimes.   Even when my load hovers around 1.0 the machine is sluggish, and causes problems with softphone conversations: jitsi, sflphone, zoiper.
[02:43] <valorie> can you talk about one application?
[02:43] <valorie> have you filed a bug when it last crashed?
[02:46] <valorie> using the cli: ubuntu-bug app-name is probably the easiest
[02:46] <valorie> and, does Dr. Konqui come up when there is a crash?
[02:47] <apb1963> No apport-kde generally comes up
[02:47] <apb1963> Or apport perhaps... I forget.
[02:47] <valorie> that's another painless way to file a bug
[02:48] <valorie> right, apport is the ubuntubug cli
[02:48] <valorie> I mean gui
[02:48] <valorie> sheesh
[02:48] <apb1963> But it generally fails because it's a third party app.. such as libreoffice.  though krunner likes to crash fairly often
[02:49] <apb1963> My primary concern right now is really this sluggishness
[02:50] <apb1963> And load spiking
[02:50] <apb1963> Which are somewhat related I presume
[02:50] <valorie> I'm sure you run top occasionally
[02:50] <apb1963> all the time... almost constantly
[02:50] <valorie> but there is another top variant....
[02:50] <apb1963> htop
[02:50] <valorie> yes
[02:51] <valorie> and does that shed any light?
[02:51] <apb1963> I also run sar, vmstat and various others
[02:51] <apb1963> Sometimes.  Chrome is a frequent offender
[02:51] <valorie> the krunner system monitor is a good one as well
[02:52] <valorie> hmmm, I run chromium
[02:52] <apb1963> "system monitor" ?
[02:52] <valorie> yes, click the little icon to the left of the input field
[02:53] <apb1963> Yeah, I've run that before... I don't recall it helping much, other than to show me that my cpu's were running high... which I already knew.
[02:53] <apb1963> input field... of what?
[02:53] <valorie> I like that you can filter by process
[02:53] <valorie> of krunner
[02:54] <apb1963> I don't know if I run krunner?  All I know is I get crash reports nearly daily
[02:54] <valorie> alt+f2 is krunner
[02:54] <apb1963> Never did that before
[02:54] <valorie> odd that it crashes for you
[02:54] <valorie> never crashes for me
[02:55] <valorie> I use krunner all the time
[02:55] <apb1963> I think it just crashed... tell you in a minute
[02:55] <valorie> as a launcher
[02:55] <apb1963> Yep... just crashed
[02:55] <valorie> it does a lot of other stuff too, but i always forget
[02:55] <valorie> strange
[02:55] <apb1963> I've been sending those bug reports for months
[02:56] <apb1963> "internal error"
[02:56] <apb1963> It does bring up the little search window though
[02:57] <valorie> ha, so much for helpful error messages
[02:57] <apb1963> yeah.. now I rememeber system monitor... basically a pretty version of top
[02:58] <valorie> apb1963: are you getting any feedback from the devels?
[02:58] <apb1963> no
[02:58] <valorie> that sucks a bit
[02:58] <valorie> I hear there is a rewrite of krunner coming along though
[02:58] <apb1963> I'm not sure they would know how to contact me
[02:59] <valorie> well, if you have problems with the plasma desktop, #plasma is the place to ask
[02:59] <apb1963> whoa... here's something I've never seen before...the error message is threaded
[02:59] <valorie> stuff like libreoffice and chrome -- you already know
[03:00] <apb1963> chrome... doesn't seem to have any useful public interface channel
[03:01] <valorie> if you file bugs on either launchpad (packaging problems) or bko (bugs.kde.org) for KDE bugs, you should get 'bug mail' to the email account you used for your account
[03:01] <valorie> such mail tends to get buried for me, since sometimes the contact is weeks or months after I filed
[03:02] <apb1963> Right... but I'm talking about these automated reports
[03:03] <apb1963> not to pile up the conversations but.... I wonder if perhaps starting up system monitor is the reason why apport suddenly decided to include tons of info.
[03:03] <valorie> that I don't know
[03:04] <valorie> the auto-reports certainly are looked at, for some value of grep
[03:04] <apb1963> now that apport has decided to cooperate, one item of note that is interesting is that it claims krunner is a third party package
[03:05] <apb1963> sure would be nice if I could copy and paste this bug report
[03:06] <valorie> you should be able to
[03:06] <apb1963> Right click?
[03:06] <valorie> control a, control c
[03:06] <apb1963> ctrl a does nothing
[03:07] <valorie> hmmm, doesn't select all the text?
[03:07] <apb1963> no
[03:07] <valorie> :(
[03:07] <valorie> and right-click doesn't offer you that option?
[03:07] <valorie> it's been forever since I saw apport
[03:07] <apb1963> nope
[03:07] <valorie> !apport
[03:08] <valorie> pfff
[03:08] <apb1963> krunner crashed with TypeError in prepare(): prepare() takes no arguments (1 given)  <<< lovely
[03:08] <apb1963> I can copy line by line
[03:08] <valorie> oh, how sucky
[03:08] <valorie> !bug
[03:08] <valorie> ok.....
[03:09] <apb1963> (process:2314): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[03:09] <apb1963> This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
[03:10] <apb1963>            /usr/bin/krunner
[03:10] <apb1963> fascinating
[03:10] <apb1963> kde-workspace-bin 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 [origin: LP-PPA-kubuntu-ppa-backports]
[03:11] <apb1963>   File "/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma_scriptengine_python/pyrunner.py", line 78, in prepare
[03:11] <valorie> yikes
[03:11] <apb1963> and on and on
[03:12] <apb1963> traceback, dependencies... all quite nice actually... if I could only copy it
[03:13] <valorie> well, apport shouldn't have come up for this KDE application
[03:13] <apb1963> so another bug.
[03:13] <apb1963> I'm kind of glad it did actually
[03:13] <valorie> so I guess this is one of the differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu with KDE on top
[03:14] <apb1963> not kde necessarliy... but kubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <apb1963> and my system is sluggish all this time... keyboard periodically takes several seconds to respond to my typing.
[03:15] <valorie> yes, this does not sound normal at all
[03:16] <valorie> however, I'm going afk to watch the golden globes right now
[03:16] <apb1963> great
[04:03] <tertu> Apt seems to be hosed somehow, can somebody help?
[04:03] <tertu> "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." comes up when I try to install new packages.
[04:03] <tertu> apt upgrade seems to work
[04:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> also, did you use any PPAs recently?
[04:05] <tertu> nope.
[04:06] <tertu> i only have stock sources.
[04:08] <tertu> trying to install aptitude, for example, fails because aptitude apparently doesn't exist
[04:08] <tertu> firefox fails for that reason
[04:09] <tertu> yeah, i get "Package x is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[04:09] <tertu> for quite a few things.
[04:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm...
[04:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe you should update your repos again.
[04:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you haven't mucked with them, theu might just be corrupt.
[04:14] <tertu> it turns out that i, for some reason, had two major software sources turned off
[04:14] <tertu> i don't recall doing this
[04:15] <tertu> i.e. the canonical packaged sources
[04:15] <tertu> it's working now,.
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> odd, but cool.
[04:31] <nobby> test
[04:55] <uBUXUBu> hi
[04:57] <uBUXUBu> remote host got him
[04:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> Remote host and Peer are vicious.
[07:53] <novakitty> I use the Faenza icon theme and it seems to mess up the Kdenlive program icons.  I was going to try one of the supplimental faenza themes from kde-look.org...but there's nothing but broken links on that site.  Has anyone run into this and found an easy solution other than having to use Oxygen icons?
[09:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:06] <emi_> hi, I need help with usb modem e173
[10:07] <emi_> it's detected by system, but it doesn't want to connect
[10:07] <emi_> network manager shows signal strenght, etc.
[10:58] <lolmaus> I would like to stack two panels at the same edge of the screen. How do i do that without them overlapping?
[11:35] <vmusr> is it possible to force kde into a diffrent resolution not supported by my monitor?
[11:36] <lordievader> vmusr: xrandr can do that.
[11:36] <lordievader> Not sure why you'd do that though.
[11:39] <vmusr> lordievader: I'm getting a can't open display with it
[11:40] <lordievader> vmusr: Are you running it in a tty or in the konsole?
[11:42] <vmusr> lordievader: tty - I'm connected from my tablet via NoMachine to the desktop, and I want't to force it a more suitable resolution. I'm separtly connected to the box via ssh
[11:42] <vmusr> lordievader: should I try it from konsole
[11:43] <lordievader> vmusr: Do you happen to know where your display is running?
[11:43] <vmusr> lordievader: you mean?
[11:44] <lordievader> vmusr: Well you can check, open a konsole (in kde) and run "echo $DISPLAY".
[11:57] <vmusr> lordievader: resolved, as you suggested I workded from Konsole and everything works fine :)
[13:23] <lordievader> vmusr: Ah good to hear :)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:46] <harishnavnit> hi , can anyone please help me with installing nepomuk-core in kubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[13:47] <harishnavnit> sudo apt-get install nepomuk-core returns
[13:47] <harishnavnit> E: Unable to locate package
[13:49] <Riddell> harishnavnit: sudo apt-get install nepomuk-core-dev
[13:50] <harishnavnit> this also returns the same error message
[13:50] <harishnavnit> E: Unable to locate package
[13:57] <BluesKaj> harishnavnit, look in muon , make sure you have the universe repositories enabled
[14:05] <salaxnet> hi
[14:06] <salaxnet> question kdialog popup everytime i open chrome any ideas why?
[14:06] <salaxnet> popups*
[14:07] <lordievader> salaxnet: Is it kwallet?
[14:08] <salaxnet> no chrome wants t save a imaginary file
[14:08] <salaxnet> to*
[14:08] <lordievader> salaxnet: Hmm, haven't seen that before.
[14:10] <salaxnet> http://i.imgur.com/00z99wx.png
[14:11] <lordievader> salaxnet: Is that tab "file://opt/..." in your start page tabs?
[14:11] <salaxnet> this is how chrome opens ay idea ? chrome settngs ?
[14:11] <salaxnet> settings*
[14:11] <salaxnet> yes
[14:13] <salaxnet> file:///opt/google/chrome/chrome/
[14:13] <lordievader> salaxnet: Any specific reason it should be among them?
[14:14] <salaxnet> plama icon only task maager migthy be a problem
[14:15] <salaxnet> since i pied in that specific widget
[14:15] <salaxnet> pinned*
[14:15] <salaxnet> manager*
[14:16] <lordievader> salaxnet: Remove the "file://opt/..." from the pages chrome opens when starting up.
[14:20] <salaxnet> could you walk me throungh the process ?
[14:21] <salaxnet> through*
[14:23] <salaxnet> also does anybody know way to make drag and drop work on the desktop without the panels
[14:24] <salaxnet> you know the old kde 3 behaviour before plasma
[14:24] <salaxnet> ?
[14:25] <lordievader> salaxnet: Open chrome and go to Settings.
[14:26] <salaxnet> ok
[14:26] <lordievader> Under 'On Startup' what is it set to?
[14:26] <salaxnet> Continue where I left off
[14:27] <lordievader> salaxnet: Hmm, did you open the "file://opt/.." page laste time?
[14:27] <salaxnet> nope its automatic
[14:30] <lordievader> salaxnet: Interesting. What happens when you rename your chrome profile?
[15:35] <jarkko> if i want to remove ati drivers and use open source instead, what's the correct way?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> jarkko, look for the ati drivers in muon and purge them, then install the new drivers and reboot
[15:38] <jarkko> but how do i make sure that open drivers are used instead?
[15:39] <lordievader> jarkko: Run "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA" if it says radeon for the driver you are using the opensource one.
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> I want to mount a NTFS partition with 770 for files and 550 to dirs. How would I do that?
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> sorry 660 for files
[15:56] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: For as far as I know NTFS doesn't support Linux access permissions.
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> I'm aware of that
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know how mask works very clearly
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> so I hoped someone can help me translate chmod to mask rights
[16:00] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446788
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> actually I'm searching for a more permanent solution
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> like always mount ntfs with those permissions
[16:05] <jarkko> i removed ati drivers and reinstalled few xserver files
[16:05] <jarkko> after reboot normal boot doesnt work, but going recovery mode and resume boot goes to desktop
[16:07] <BluesKaj> jarkko, update and upgrade, you may need to bring in some libs that aren't installed
[16:08] <jarkko> i think there is some problem on linux support of 7870
[16:08] <jarkko> i had problems installing manjaro and kubuntu
[16:09] <jarkko> there are no packages to download
[16:09] <jarkko> well i must be using the open source because dota went so slow
[16:09] <lordievader> jarkko: Have you checked if the opensource radeon driver supports the 7870?
[16:10] <jarkko> no, how do i even check that?
[16:11] <jarkko> ihad before 7770 and now 7870, the change between shouldnt be that big
[16:11] <jarkko> no wonder people complain about ati, if this is so slow
[16:11] <jarkko> i got decent hardware
[16:11] <lordievader> jarkko: This has some info about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:12] <jarkko> how do i check mesa version?
[16:13] <jarkko> i think its 9.x.x something, it reinstalled something like that
[16:14] <jarkko> glxinfo
[16:14] <jarkko> never remember
[16:14] <lordievader> glxinfo is in mesa-utils
[16:14] <lordievader> !info mesa-utils
[16:15] <jarkko> is there any other way to upgrade to newest mesa other than self compile?
[16:16] <jarkko> well the desktop feels fast, even games doesnt
[16:16] <jarkko> 2d driver good shape
[16:18] <lordievader> jarkko: From the Ubu wiki: This driver's 3D is usually not as fast as the closed-source, proprietary "fglrx" driver from AMD/ATI Inc. for some cards
[16:18] <jarkko> well i know that but dota is unplayable at this rate
[16:18] <jarkko> there is something wrong in my install or the open source driver really sucks on 7870
[16:19] <lordievader> Probably the second (in the 3d case).
[16:20] <jarkko> but if the driver is so bad, how is it possible that people even play on linux...with ati
[16:22] <lordievader> jarkko: The fglrx driver is usually pretty good at 3d. The trouble just is getting it installed/working.
[16:22] <jarkko> the only problem with fglrx i had has been not able to install it on all kernels
[16:23] <BluesKaj> jarkko, there is an experimental mesa app you may want to try, libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[16:23] <jarkko> what does it do?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> jarkko, http://pastebin.kde.org/p39438c21
[16:25] <jarkko> but its irritating that you should boot into failsave on every restart
[16:26] <jarkko> if i install that libraray does it automatically know what do ?
[16:26] <lordievader> jarkko: What driver are you currently using?
[16:26] <jarkko> i mean you have to just install it?
[16:26] <jarkko> i am not sure but i think i am back to open source
[16:26] <lordievader> jarkko: Could you pastebin the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"?
[16:27] <jarkko> http://pastebin.com/g5D8nvYE
[16:28] <lordievader> It seems the opensource driver is not loaded.
[16:28] <jarkko> but i dont have fully closed source driver either
[16:28] <lordievader> jarkko: What is the output of "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon"?
[16:29] <jarkko> http://pastebin.com/LXWmJ88C
[16:31] <lordievader> jarkko: Hmm, would the recoverymode disable the radeon driver... Do you have fragments of the fglrx driver still on your machine?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> jarkko, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes
[16:33] <jarkko> doesnt output nothing
[16:34] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  the radeon driver is installed by deafult no matter which graphics card is installed
[16:35] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I know, but a user can remove it. And it wasn't loaded. So I verified that it was installed ;)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> jarkko, there should be some output from  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , make sure you incluse the quotes
[16:38] <BluesKaj> include
[16:39] <jarkko> nothing
[16:39] <jarkko> i copy pasted it
[16:39] <jarkko> with those sitates
[16:40] <rcw2> how do i add livecd as a source
[16:40] <lordievader> No driver is loaded, that is why it doesn't return anything. So the question is, why doesn't he load the radeon driver.
[16:40] <rcw2> to install a package
[16:40] <lordievader> jarkko, BluesKaj ^
[16:40] <lordievader> jarkko: What was the issue again if you boot up in the normal mode?
[16:41] <jarkko> display goes blank
[16:41] <lordievader> jarkko: Can you get to a tty in the state?
[16:41] <jarkko> doesnt work
[16:41] <jarkko> it goes blind
[16:43] <jarkko> dont remember anymore how it went, but installing 13.10 wasnt easy either
[16:43] <lordievader> jarkko: Hmm, well that is annoying. I have to get some food. But I'm sure you and BluesKaj can figure some thing out.
[16:43] <jarkko> i think i used earlier kubuntu which i upgraded from console
[16:43] <jarkko> and used closed source drivers
[16:43] <jarkko> manjaro didnt work with free drivers
[16:43] <jarkko> there is somethign wrong with support of 7870
[16:44] <jarkko> be back later
[16:46] <BluesKaj> too bad he didn't try to determine the correct drivrername , could have modprobed it
[16:46] <rcw2>  how do i add whatever disk (in this case, kubuntu install disk) is in cdrom drive as a source in muon
[16:46] <rcw2> ppa: something or other?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ppas are usually added from theit host sites , not from the kubuntu cd
[16:48] <BluesKaj> rcw2,^
[16:48] <BluesKaj> what app are you looking for, rcw2?
[16:49] <rcw2> BluesKaj, build-essentials
[16:49] <rcw2> i want to reference the install disk
[16:51] <BluesKaj> build-essential is in the repositories, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:51] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i can't get internet on that computer right now
[16:52] <rcw2> so i want to use the install disk
[16:53] <BluesKaj> don't think it's on the live cd, but you can uncomment the cdrom source in /etc/apt/sources.list and try to install it with the live cd
[16:54] <BluesKaj> remove the #
[16:54] <genii> BluesKaj: build-essential should be on the install disk
[16:54] <BluesKaj> really genii ?
[16:55] <rcw2> BluesKaj, should i be seeing something pointing to /dev/cdrom or something in sources.list
[16:55] <BluesKaj> rcw2, yes it should be the first source at the top
[16:56] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm like 90% sure when they discontinued alternate installer it was moved to the regular one
[16:56] <rcw2> BluesKaj, ok, do i need to reload something or restart os now?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> rcw2, load the live cd , and remove the #from the deb cdrom line in the sources.list
[16:59] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt-get update , then install build-essential
[17:00] <BluesKaj> there's no "s" on essential btw
[17:05] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i don't have 13.10 disk at the moment, how can i point towards 13.04 disk
[17:05] <rcw2> in sources.list
[17:07] <BluesKaj> recommend you download the 13.10 iso and burn it , you shouldn't mix and match apps from different OS versions
[17:15] <asla> has someone tried unvanquished
[17:16] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i hear you, but i'd like to try.  how do i find out my build for this line in sources.list?  i have 'dev cdrom:[Kubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtale_ - release amd64] / Raring main restricted - but it is not correct
[17:20] <floown> hellobuntu ^^
[17:20] <floown> Is there any file navigator in Kate ?
[17:20] <floown> I don't found the option
[17:21] <floown> * find
[17:21] <BluesKaj> rcw2, you have to put # in front of each line that begins with "deb" to prevent your sources list from changing to 13.04 when you update, except of course the "deb cdrom" line
[17:22] <BluesKaj> floown, use dolphin
[17:23] <rcw2> BluesKaj, ok.
[17:24] <rcw2> what's the way to get the exact line contents i need now
[17:24] <rcw2> any ideas?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> you have to , sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:27] <rcw2> BluesKaj, my sources.list is bad.  i need a new one
[17:27] <rcw2> for 13.04
[17:28] <BluesKaj> you are only updating from the cdrom , no other sources , they are commented out if you followed the instructions i posted above
[17:30] <BluesKaj> rcw2, if you run sudo apt-get update without an internet connection you will get errors
[17:31] <rcw2> BluesKaj, errors or warnings
[17:32] <BluesKaj> both
[17:32] <rcw2> i can do this though, right?
[17:32] <rcw2> comment out everything, point to cdrom only, even with no inet connection, and get build-essential
[17:33] <BluesKaj> comment everything except the deb cdrom
[17:34] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i did
[17:34] <rcw2> the line is wrong,
[17:34] <rcw2> somehow
[17:34] <rcw2> (absolute dist)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> are doing sudo apt-get update
[17:34] <rcw2> yes
[17:36] <BluesKaj> change the to 13.10 instead of 13.04. but that's a cheat which may not work
[17:36] <BluesKaj> line
[17:37] <rcw2> didnt work
[17:37] <BluesKaj> best to download and burn a cd on the pc you sre using right now
[17:37] <rcw2> BluesKaj, can i use flash drive?  how to point to it in sources.list?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> that's all i can help you with
[17:38] <BluesKaj>  if you have the 13.10 iso on it , yes
[17:38] <rcw2> BluesKaj, ok.
[17:39] <rcw2> can you tell me how sources.list would be edited
[17:39] <rcw2> modified*
[17:39] <BluesKaj> i have stuff to do now , good luck
[17:39] <BluesKaj> <bblk
[17:39] <rcw2> to check for the flash
[17:39] <rcw2> k thanks
[19:05] <der-willy> moin
[19:06] <der-willy> woran kann es liegen wenn das lan nicht konfiguriebar ist_
[19:08] <der-willy> IP configuration was unavailable
[19:09] <der-willy> wlan geht
[19:09] <BluesKaj> der,  ipconfig
[19:10] <BluesKaj> der-willy,^
[19:10] <der-willy> ipconifg findet die konsole nicht
[19:11] <BluesKaj> der-willy, english please
[19:11] <der-willy> ok, command not found for ipconfig
[19:12] <der-willy> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:7263 (7.2 KB)           Interrupt:16
[19:12] <BluesKaj> sudo dhclient eth0, for ethernet , use wlan0 for wireless
[19:13] <Euclidis_> Which version is available in the 'kubuntu-backports' ppa?
[19:13] <Euclidis_> I meant KDE
[19:13] <der-willy> wireless is runing, no problems
[19:13] <der-willy> i run kubuntu live for testing
[19:14] <Euclidis_> Is kde 4.11.4 available?
[19:14] <der-willy> wired interface failed to activate
[19:14] <Euclidis_> Wich version of kde is available on ubuntu official repository?
[19:15] <der-willy> where do i see the versin, sorrz my first try for linux
[19:15] <Euclidis_> Ok.. Thank you..
[19:15] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Of what?
[19:15] <der-willy> of kde
[19:16] <Euclidis_> Open a kde app, help and 'about kde'
[19:16] <Euclidis_> der-willy: On menu..
[19:16] <der-willy> 4.11.2
[19:22] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Which O.S.?
[19:24] <lordievader> der-willy: What is the problem exactly?
[19:24] <lordievader> Also if you prefer there is a german ubuntu support.
[19:24] <lordievader> !german
[19:25] <der-willy> kubuntukubuntu 13.10
[19:26] <der-willy> wlan is running
[19:26] <der-willy> lan is connected but i have no interneaccess
[19:26] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Dude, update your KDE: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kde-4-12-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:27] <lordievader> Euclidis_: If I understood der-willy correctly he is running a live-cd.
[19:27] <der-willy> ok, then i trz to install kubuntu, i now run the live cd onlz
[19:27] <der-willy> yez, but i can try
[19:27] <Euclidis_> lordievader: Oh..
[19:27] <Euclidis_> I dindn't..
[19:28] <lordievader> der-willy: Ok, and what was the output of BluesKaj suggestion (the "dhclient eth0" one)?
[19:28] <der-willy> I just installed windows new and can just delete it
[19:28] <der-willy> no output in the terminal window
[19:28] <Euclidis_> I'm running 13.10 and following the link's steps, I haven't the 4.12 version rather..
[19:29] <Euclidis_> lordievader: Is there a way to get the newest version?
[19:29] <lordievader> der-willy: That is good, could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig eth0" again?
[19:29] <lordievader> Euclidis_: If the backports don't carry it, I'd just wait.
[19:29] <der-willy> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB)           Interrupt:16   lo        L
[19:30] <Euclidis_> der-willy: You could use http://paste.kde.org to paste.. Isn't a mess.
[19:30] <Euclidis_> lordievader: Which version are you running in kuubntu?
[19:31] <Euclidis_> *kubuntu
[19:31] <der-willy> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB)           Interrupt:16   lo        L
[19:31] <lordievader> der-willy: Is the cable connected, and is there a dhcp server anywhere on that network?
[19:32] <lordievader> Euclidis_: This install runs 4.12.0
[19:32] <der-willy> yes, the same i use for wlan
[19:32] <der-willy> grenn lamp
[19:32] <der-willy> green lamp is on
[19:33] <lordievader> der-willy: But if the wlan works does it really matter? (Especially for a live-cd)
[19:34] <der-willy> i want to copy data to my nas and wan a fast connection
[19:34] <der-willy> if this work i will install kubuntu
[19:35] <lordievader> der-willy: Could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig wlan0"?
[19:35] <der-willy> windows 7 refused to connect to mz homenetwork
[19:35] <lordievader> !paste
[19:35] <lordievader> der-willy: ^
[19:36] <der-willy> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB)           Interrupt:16
[19:37] <lordievader> der-willy: Please read what I write, and please use paste.ubuntu.com for pasting output.
[19:38] <der-willy> how do i paste from paste.ubuntu.com
[19:38] <lordievader> der-willy: Do you have an internet connection on that live-cd?
[19:38] <der-willy> yes, i am on with the live cd
[19:38] <der-willy> http://pastebin.kde.org/pgwetguju
[19:39] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Do you want enable the internet to run the installer?
[19:39] <lordievader> der-willy: Thank you.
[19:40] <der-willy> not in the moment, i like to know if it works before i install kubuntu
[19:40] <lordievader> der-willy: sudo ifconfig eth0 down&&sudo ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.0.77 netmask 255.255.255.0&&route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[19:41] <lordievader> der-willy: And then see if eth0 has an ip, if so disconnect from the wifi and ping google (for example).
[19:41] <der-willy> SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted
[19:41] <der-willy> this may be the reason
[19:42] <lordievader> der-willy: Could very well be...
[19:42] <lordievader> der-willy: The kde network manager is no help either?
[19:42] <der-willy> any idea how to fix it
[19:43] <der-willy> i have the wrong keyboard ...
[19:43] <lordievader> I could probably fix it for a normal install, but not for a live-cd.
[19:43] <der-willy> may be i have to install kubunte to change some settinge
[19:44] <der-willy> ah ok, i start  to install
[19:44] <der-willy> I am off now, thanks for the moment
[19:44] <lordievader> der-willy: Good luck.
[19:45] <der-willy> thanks
[21:17] <guest-over9000> Hello All. Hello BluesKaj
[21:18] <BluesKaj> hi guest-over9000
[21:18] <guest-over9000> BluesKaj: I installed properly fgrlx drivers, but have dim laptop screen bug, I'm trying to fix that
[21:19] <guest-over9000> So I have very black screen on my laptop (can't see almost nothing) but plugged it to tv by hdmi cabel
[21:19] <guest-over9000> and right now I have screen on the telly (TV), but my laptop is soo dark :(
[21:20] <guest-over9000> I have done this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887550&page=3&p=12063176#post12063176 but still no clue :(
[21:20] <guest-over9000> Does anyone have any ideas ? I would be very, very happy if somebody would help me :(
[21:22] <genii> guest-over9000: Offhand, is this a Compaq Armada of some type?
[21:23] <guest-over9000> genii: Asus K52JT
[21:23] <guest-over9000> genii: Asus K52JT, ATI HD 6370M on board.
[21:25] <guest-over9000> I am still looking for a solution, searching the web and still nothing. I set the maximum brightness in catalyst control center, and on the KDE settings panel, modified grub, installed programs to auto max brightness
[21:26] <guest-over9000> and still nothing.
[21:28] <genii> guest-over9000: From what I'm reading at http://askubuntu.com/questions/310812/last-couple-of-fglrx-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04-have-backlight-support-broken seems the drivers prior to 13.8 have this backlight issue.
[21:28] <genii> !info fglrx
[21:31] <guest-over9000> genii: ehh I don't know what to do :( I will be back soon. Have to go for a short time
[21:32] <genii> guest-over9000: Does something like: xrandr --output --brightness 0.75 take?
[21:32] <genii> Bleh, left.
[21:45] <b33zu> Hey guys I'm about to install this on my new laptop that has massively good specifications.  It does have a 64 bit processor of course.  My question is before downloading it recommends me to download the 32 bit not the 64 bit. Even though this is a general recommendation should I do the 32 bit over the 64 bit or does it matter?
[21:48] <b33zu> anyone??
[21:49] <b33zu> I just went with the 64 bit.
[21:50] <soee> go for 64
[21:51] <soee> im running it on my Dell inspiron and works perfect :)
[21:54] <guest-over9000> genii: Okay I am back
[21:55] <guest-over9000> genii: I wrote an e-mail to the AMD support about it
[21:56] <guest-over9000> genii: I hope they will look in to it. Anyway I would like to thank You and BluesKaj for help. Thank You :)
[22:02] <genii> guest-over9000: You could try an xrandr command: xrandr --output --brightness #     ... where # is from 0.00 ( darkest) to 1.00 ( brightest)   ...good one to try would be something like 0.75 to see if it works
[22:07] <guest-over9000> genii: mydevilroot@shelly-i7:~$ xrandr --output --brightness 0.75 xrandr: unrecognized option '0.75'
[22:08] <Willy> hello
[22:11] <Der_Willy> hello,i cannot use lan
[22:11] <Der_Willy> wlan is working
[22:15] <guest-over9000> genii: xbacklight -set 100, still dark :(
[22:15] <Der_Willy> https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kubuntu
[22:45] <lboken> hi all  im installing a linux based un kubuntu and i wanted to   know how much swaps again should i put  (the sistem is only 32 since its they have released so far, but i have a 8 core, with 12 gig ram,  if  i remember i should put 8 gig for the  swap right?
[23:49] <pnunn> Am I the only one here that hates virtuoso-t? Its total crap. log full of segfaults which explains the high cpu load.
[23:57] <Der_willy> Hello
[23:58] <Der_willy> i have problem wit lan, wlan is running