Overand | Not sure if I want to ask in here or in some ubuntu-related channel, but I figured it was worth a shot. VM host - Arch Linux, pretty up to date. Running GNU Screen. SSHed into several machines - one of which is running Ubuntu-Server 12.04. And inside that, i've got a non-fully-functional terminal! Like, I can't use less, I get "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional". For what it's worth, | 01:05 |
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Overand | er, cut off. For what it's worth, $TERM is "screen.linux" on the ubuntu system | 01:05 |
Overand | Well, to resolev that issue, I just needed to install "ncurses-term" on the ubuntu system. | 02:19 |
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Spanky | Trying to update my Ubuntu 10.04 Base (Zentyal). Get the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6742414/ | 02:56 |
Spanky | Any good ideas to force the update? | 02:57 |
jkitchen | Spanky: there's more than just that | 02:57 |
holstein | Spanky: yeah, they'll have to support it http://www.zentyal.org/ ..otherwise, 10.04 ubuntu is still supported on the server | 02:58 |
Spanky | I tried most of this already and no dice: http://goo.gl/XcsLLd | 02:59 |
holstein | i know, i would just want to get "sudo apt-get update" to complete without error | 02:59 |
holstein | could be any custom package or source ppa that they add though | 02:59 |
Spanky | I guess it may be time for updating to Zentyal 3.X Server (which is built on top of Ubuntu Server)... | 03:01 |
Spanky | Doesn't 10.04 support / updates run out pretty soon? | 03:01 |
Spanky | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - Guess it's April 2015... | 03:02 |
holstein | Spanky: i dont konw what zentyal does, or what the support length is.. they could be based on 10.04, and support it for a shorter period than stock ubuntu,a nd that could break things.. or they could support it as long as they please | 03:03 |
Spanky | Yeah. It's pretty much in-line with Ubuntu and is official Canonical supported branch product. | 03:05 |
holstein | Spanky: its actually not | 03:05 |
holstein | Spanky: its a different product.. it will be supported by them | 03:05 |
holstein | http://forum.zentyal.org/ is where i would start | 03:06 |
Spanky | holstein: I guess they lie on their web site then. | 03:06 |
Spanky | http://www.zentyal.com/ | 03:07 |
MavKen | do any of you use digitalocean? | 03:09 |
jkitchen | I had a box there for a short while | 03:09 |
jkitchen | they don't have ipv6 (still) so I am not moving services yet | 03:09 |
MavKen | I can get all of my static sites working but have many permission issues trying to get drupal or wordpress working | 03:10 |
MavKen | ipv6 probably wont be available with them until mid to late next year, they are in a feature freeze right now | 03:10 |
MarGul | Hi! When I put a test index.php (<html><body><?php echo "This works!"; ?></body></html>) in my webroot(runnig ubuntu server 12.04 and nginx) the text gets shown properly and all looks good. But when I then upload (through fileZilla) my own index.php nothing gets shown. Its just a blank page. Anyone have any suggestions were to start troubleshooting? | 03:12 |
MavKen | you have php installed? | 03:13 |
Spanky | MarGul: http://serverfault.com/questions/110699/ascii-vs-binary-vs-auto - FileZilla defaults to ASCII on install and that may not be what you want. | 03:15 |
MarGul | MavKen: Yes I have php installed. When I run that test file (with php in it) everything works fine | 03:16 |
MarGul | Spanky: Okey, I will take a look at it :) | 03:16 |
Spanky | MarGul: For all the dirty details and the "WebMaster" pissing match that ensued see: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/4235 | 03:18 |
MarGul | Spanky: I had FileZilla set on Auto transfer before and changed it to binary. Still doesn't work. The thing is when Im in my webroot I can see the files and it all looks good. But I just get a blank page | 03:26 |
MarGul | I also tried to upload to my server, with same settings just a different webroot, and that worked just fine | 03:27 |
MarGul | I did that old upload like 10 days ago. Now I just changed my webroot on my virtual host file. Added that folder, and now I just get a blank page. What bothers me is that my test.php works just fine. But my own site do not work | 03:28 |
codex | on 13.10, is qemu-kvm (as a service) replaced by something else? | 04:05 |
codex | I noticed it's not longer available for restart - if you use tasksel to install the Virtual Machine group | 04:06 |
sheptard | codex: lib-virtd | 04:07 |
codex | Interesting. So libvirt is no longer separated from qemu/kvm, or is it just a hook of some sort? | 04:10 |
codex | I noticed qemu-system-x86 also replaced kvm | 04:10 |
codex | which I had read about already | 04:11 |
BadBoY__ | i installed ubuntu-serever 13.10 on my system having amdA10 64bit arc. Then while starting it always gets stuck on bluetooth: failed applying patch. what should i do? | 07:59 |
yolanda | morning jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/charm-helpers/get_hostname/+merge/201347 | 08:45 |
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cvtsx | Hello, has anyone hosted a minecraft server? I need help with something | 10:08 |
melmoth | cvtsx, my nephew is hosting one | 10:13 |
cvtsx | melmoth can you tell me how to get plugins working? i got my bukkit server up and running | 10:14 |
cvtsx | and the plugin in my plugin folder | 10:14 |
melmoth | if i remember correctly, you "just" need to unzip the archive un the plugin folder and restart the server | 10:14 |
melmoth | it will create template config file for the plugin, set whatever you want in them, restart the server | 10:15 |
melmoth | here you are | 10:15 |
cvtsx | how do i restart the server? | 10:17 |
melmoth | cvtsx, when i start the server, i end up with a "shell" on the server. I think stopping it can be done with "quit" or "exit" | 10:20 |
melmoth | not sure, i m not using that stuff regulalry, havent touch it for a year or so | 10:20 |
cvtsx | yeah, i am using putty also | 10:21 |
Daviey | jamespage / rbasak: Planning to go to FOSDEM this time? | 11:24 |
jamespage | Daviey, not this year - I think rbasak is going tho | 11:48 |
Daviey | jamespage: :( | 11:50 |
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zul | rbasak: hey are you going to merge the new puppet? | 14:09 |
rbasak | zul: oooh. Yes, I can take that. Our delta is small - it might just be a sync. | 14:13 |
zul | rbasak: ack | 14:13 |
jamespage | zul, if you fancy trying it - https://launchpad.net/~mysql-ubuntu/+archive/percona/+packages | 14:20 |
jamespage | percona-xtradb-cluster for trusty | 14:21 |
jamespage | can't upload it yet as block on a licensing issue with OpenSSL | 14:21 |
* jamespage sighs | 14:21 | |
zul | hehhe | 14:21 |
rbasak | Daviey: I'll be there. Are you going? | 14:21 |
zul | jamespage: ill try to find some time to try it out | 14:21 |
zul | f u beanstalkd | 14:23 |
jamespage | zul, any ideas on ryengs's query re library versioning for 5.6? | 14:32 |
zul | jamespage: lemme go check | 14:34 |
zul | jamespage: nope :( | 14:36 |
TJ- | apache2 with userdir.conf ... despite "Options ...+ FollowSymLinks +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch" and checking the owners do match, the symlinked file isn't shown and there are no log-file clues as to why... what might I be missing? | 14:43 |
TJ- | my bad: symlink was faulty! | 14:59 |
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zul | smoser: this is what i was seeing with euca2ools http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6745283/ | 15:57 |
smoser | you probably need to give it a arch then. its a change in behavior, but generally a sane one. | 15:59 |
qhartman | I'm working on getting some Xen VM's running on my remote server, running 12.04. I have DOM0 running happily, and when I attempt to install 12.04 via a netboot image, it seems to get stuck right after getting network info | 16:08 |
qhartman | I see ocassional error messages that say something about a framebuffer, so I added fb=false to the boot options, but that hasn't changed the behavior | 16:09 |
qhartman | Any suggestions? My googling hasn't turned up anything that seems immediately useful. | 16:09 |
qhartman | For reference, I'm (roughtly) following the guide found here: http://www.bentasker.co.uk/documentation/linux/188-setting-up-xen-on-ubuntu-12-04 | 16:10 |
smb | qhartman, Could it be a problem with the virt bridge? For netboot to work you have to configure a transparent bridge manually (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Xen) | 16:13 |
qhartman | smb, The DOM0 is using the bridge interface to talk to the world, so I _think_ the bridge is configured right, and the vm seems to get it's dhcp config. I'll poke around for methods to test that, if you don't have any immediate suggestions. | 16:14 |
smb | qhartman, One issue can me the MAC address of the bridge. If not specified manually I found some references that it could change to the lowest connected to the bridge and that may change just when the virtual NIC comes up | 16:16 |
qhartman | smb, Interesting. I've not run into that using more usual bridge configs. I'll check that out. Thanks for the suggestion. | 16:17 |
tomixxx | hi | 16:18 |
tomixxx | i have a problem with maas: problem is, that nodes added to maas-server stay in state "commissioning" | 16:19 |
tomixxx | they never change to state "ready" | 16:19 |
tomixxx | and i dont know why... | 16:19 |
tomixxx | is anyone able to help? ;) | 16:20 |
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pmatulis_ | tomixxx: try #maas | 16:45 |
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jamespage | adam_g, if you have 10 - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/precise/nova-compute/resize-fixes/+merge/199266 | 16:55 |
jamespage | I'd forgotten about it | 16:55 |
tomixxx | @pmatulis: ty for link :-) | 17:10 |
adam_g | jamespage, lgtm. is there a corresponding nova-c-c change? | 18:00 |
semiosis | jamespage: ping, re https://code.launchpad.net/~semiosis/ubuntu/trusty/glusterfs/fix-for-1268064 | 18:29 |
MavKen | If I have /etc/skel/public_html/ and wordpress in the public_html directory then set all permissions, will those carry over for each new user? | 18:38 |
sarnold | MavKen: the files themselves will be copied into new home directories; probably the permissions bits will stay the same, but the owner ought to be set to the owner of the new home directory | 19:03 |
Delemas | After a 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade my server logs are getting spammed every 6 seconds by systemd-logind as per: http://pastebin.ca/2535595 Anyone know why? | 19:03 |
sarnold | Delemas: you may wish to try asking in #ubuntu-desktop, I believe more the folks who would know about that are in there | 19:06 |
Delemas | Ok will do thanks. | 19:06 |
TheLordOfTime | is there any way to rsync or tarball up data and retain file permission settings? | 19:09 |
hitsujiTMO | tar -p should retain permissions | 19:10 |
hitsujiTMO | TheLordOfTime: tar --help | grep permissions | 19:10 |
TheLordOfTime | hitsujiTMO: thanks | 19:11 |
Delemas | After a 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade my server logs are getting spammed every 6 seconds by systemd-logind as per: http://pastebin.ca/2535595 Username is not logged in. Anyone know why? | 19:12 |
sarnold | Delemas: wrong chan :) hehe | 19:13 |
Delemas | doh | 19:13 |
zul | sarnold: any hope of beanstalkd getting done soon? | 19:15 |
sarnold | zul: depends if it builds for me.. | 19:16 |
zul | sarnold: should build now..fixed it this morning | 19:16 |
sarnold | zul: yay! <3 | 19:16 |
TheLordOfTime | hmmm.. | 19:27 |
TheLordOfTime | any one know why I wouldn't be permitted to rename these files? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6746435/ | 19:28 |
TheLordOfTime | the user teward is my user so i'm kinda at a loss o.O | 19:28 |
sarnold | TheLordOfTime: filenames are part of the containing directory; what are permissions / owner of the . directory? | 19:28 |
sarnold | (ls -ld .) | 19:28 |
ikonia | TheLordOfTime: what's the error you get when you try to rename them ? | 19:29 |
TheLordOfTime | sarnold: ikonia: probably better if i give you the full ls -alshF that I use, and the line before it on the command line showing the path I'm in... | 19:30 |
TheLordOfTime | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6746438/ | 19:30 |
TheLordOfTime | ikonia: mv: cannot move `nginx-settings.tar' to `etc_nginx-settings.tar': Permission denied | 19:30 |
* TheLordOfTime was trying to rename it so he would remember where everything goes when he extracts the tarballs | 19:31 | |
ikonia | TheLordOfTime: root:root no permissions for nonroot to move | 19:31 |
sarnold | TheLordOfTime: yeah, user 'root' can rename those files because root has rwx in that directory; you can either change the directory's group owner to teward, change the directory owner to teward, or bust out sudo | 19:31 |
* TheLordOfTime facepalms | 19:31 | |
TheLordOfTime | of course >.> | 19:31 |
ikonia | TheLordOfTime: remember, move is not rename | 19:31 |
TheLordOfTime | ikonia: yeah, i know... *facepalm* | 19:31 |
ikonia | oops ;) | 19:31 |
TheLordOfTime | i feel like a noob >.> | 19:32 |
TheLordOfTime | but, I guess even the best sysadmins sometimes screw up like this and forget things | 19:32 |
ikonia | don't be silly | 19:32 |
ikonia | easy to make silly slip ups | 19:32 |
TheLordOfTime | indeed | 19:32 |
TheLordOfTime | it happens to the best of us | 19:32 |
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eto | hey does anybody here run ubuntu server with systemd? | 19:37 |
Delemas | eto: Seems to be the default with 13.10... | 19:40 |
sarnold | it isn't full systemd, upstart is still the init daemot; but some of the systemd-provided services are being used to replace the old consolekit and provide other gnome-required services | 19:41 |
eto | Delemas: i hear the desision was not yet made | 19:42 |
eto | sarnold: i mainly interested into server thing | 19:42 |
Delemas | ah k my mistake... | 19:43 |
eto | sarnold: i run arch on all my boxes but would be bit scared to run it on server | 19:43 |
eto | sarnold: but i already have some crap i made which already uses some systemd features | 19:44 |
eto | do you think server edition will move to systemd in the future? | 19:44 |
sarnold | 14.04 LTS will use upstart; it is unlikely future version will move to systemd, but I won't promise that.. | 19:45 |
eto | hmm | 19:45 |
eto | sarnold: given i have no clue about apt, and other ubuntu specific things, i guess i would need to learn all that anyway if i wanted to run ubuntu for server | 19:48 |
eto | this would be experimental machine for now to test things out, do you think it would be worth the time? | 19:48 |
sarnold | eto: I think it's always worth investing time to learn new things; a few quick hints about apt that made it more fun for me: apt-get update will update the indexes; apt-get -u dist-upgrade will upgrade the packages to newest in the indexes; apt-cache search <foo> will search package names and descriptions for <foo> | 19:50 |
eto | sarnold: let's say i want to compile some application extensions and such, this is dead easy on arch, as any given (library)package contains everything necessary (headers etc). I heard once, that there is split in ubuntu universe, between normal (for use)packages and "development" parts, correct? | 19:54 |
eto | sarnold: also ubuntu has some managemnt glue stuffed in, which regenrate actual control/config files, correct? | 19:54 |
eto | *regenrates | 19:54 |
sarnold | eto: correct, the headers are in -dev packages; "apt-get build-dep <foo>" will install all the packages needed to recompile the <foo> package | 19:57 |
sarnold | eto: the configuration mechanism is 'debconf'; support for it varies from package to package | 19:57 |
eto | sarnold: is it safe to have those *-dev packages on production server? | 19:57 |
sarnold | eto: yes | 19:58 |
eto | sarnold: for example on bsd they doesn't seem to have similar split either | 19:58 |
eto | sarnold: any reason this split was made or this was adopted from debian? | 19:58 |
sarnold | eto: adopted from debian; they figured that most users don't compile most of the time, so the bandwidth and storage could be saved by not including the headers in every package | 19:59 |
eto | sarnold: understood - that is good for desktop boxes and laptops, but not so useful on server correct? | 20:00 |
sarnold | eto: the server admins I know aim for fully-reproducable server systems; they'd prefer to compile the few packages they need to compile themselves in a reproducable format such as .deb packages using sbuild | 20:01 |
sarnold | then those packages can be distributed to their servres as needed | 20:01 |
eto | sarnold: i see that is similar to freebsd, where you build packages one box and then deploy them to rest | 20:02 |
patdk-wk | yep, no need for headers on deployed boxes, only build ones | 20:03 |
eto | sarnold: what if one server is powerful enough - virtualisation? eg have builder and rest of the boxes in vms? | 20:04 |
eto | patdk-wk: ^ sorry sarnold | 20:04 |
patdk-wk | I have a build box, I do my work on | 20:04 |
patdk-wk | then my other server just fetch it via normal updates | 20:04 |
patdk-wk | been doing that forever with rhel and ubuntu | 20:05 |
patdk-wk | but not sure what you mean about powerful enough | 20:05 |
eto | patdk-wk: well currently the iron runs vmware and virtualises four servers | 20:06 |
patdk-wk | my builders are normall like 2gigs ram, and 2cores | 20:06 |
patdk-wk | the one I build illumos on though, is 8cores, and 8gigs ram, it takes a long time to build | 20:06 |
eto | patdk-wk: this some is some blade box, there is antoher decomissioned one which returned "home" and is lying here unused. i wanted to try replicate current setup used for production myself on it, but i wanted to give sytemd try | 20:09 |
eto | patdk-wk: seems like there are systemd packages in ubuntu "repos" but those are slightly outdated | 20:09 |
eto | sorry for asking such stupid questions arch and freebsd is everything i used so far | 20:11 |
strixUK | hi. problems booting a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 server. / is on raid1+lvm. booting recovery mode shows md starting /dev/md0 okay, but then i get: device-mapper: table: 252:0: linear: dm-linear: device lookup failed etc, and i'm dumped to an initramfs shell. | 20:48 |
strixUK | /proc/mdstat indicates that the device is okay, and lvm pvs/vgs/lvs show the expected output, but /dev/mapper is empty (apart from control); also, booting recovery mode from the installation dvd can mount everything okay | 20:49 |
strixUK | md0 is "degraded" (the second disc is not yet available), which causes boot to have kittens when it tries to assemble the array, so i shrunk md0 to just one member (so md is now happy), but lvm booting off the install is not. | 20:49 |
genii | strixUK: Is your initrd built with raid support? | 21:00 |
TheLordOfTime | does `python-software-properties` get shipped with the server ISOs? | 21:20 |
sarnold | TheLordOfTime: check output of seeded-in-ubuntu software-properties | 21:21 |
TheLordOfTime | sarnold: looks like it's in the dailies in Trusty, any way to see if it's seeded in other releases? | 21:23 |
sarnold | TheLordOfTime: no idea, sorry | 21:25 |
TheLordOfTime | sarnold: maybe -release would know? | 21:26 |
TheLordOfTime | i mean i could pull the manifests but i'm lazy :P | 21:26 |
TheLordOfTime | (because add-apt-repository doesn't come with the 12.04.3 server ISO and i'm wondering if it does in later seeds) | 21:26 |
TheLordOfTime | (and that's part of python-software-properties in the older releases) | 21:26 |
semiosis | jamespage: ping | 21:35 |
strixUK | genii: no idea, but i would hope that the stock initrd had raid+lvm support if the installer allows those options. | 22:03 |
strixUK | genii: in any event, the kernel evidently can /see/ both the RAID array and the LVs, because they are visible in /proc and lvm respectively | 22:03 |
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