[01:05] Not sure if I want to ask in here or in some ubuntu-related channel, but I figured it was worth a shot. VM host - Arch Linux, pretty up to date. Running GNU Screen. SSHed into several machines - one of which is running Ubuntu-Server 12.04. And inside that, i've got a non-fully-functional terminal! Like, I can't use less, I get "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional". For what it's worth, [01:05] er, cut off. For what it's worth, $TERM is "screen.linux" on the ubuntu system [02:19] Well, to resolev that issue, I just needed to install "ncurses-term" on the ubuntu system. === peter is now known as Guest7381 [02:56] Trying to update my Ubuntu 10.04 Base (Zentyal). Get the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6742414/ [02:57] Any good ideas to force the update? [02:57] Spanky: there's more than just that [02:58] Spanky: yeah, they'll have to support it http://www.zentyal.org/ ..otherwise, 10.04 ubuntu is still supported on the server [02:59] I tried most of this already and no dice: http://goo.gl/XcsLLd [02:59] i know, i would just want to get "sudo apt-get update" to complete without error [02:59] could be any custom package or source ppa that they add though [03:01] I guess it may be time for updating to Zentyal 3.X Server (which is built on top of Ubuntu Server)... [03:01] Doesn't 10.04 support / updates run out pretty soon? [03:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - Guess it's April 2015... [03:03] Spanky: i dont konw what zentyal does, or what the support length is.. they could be based on 10.04, and support it for a shorter period than stock ubuntu,a nd that could break things.. or they could support it as long as they please [03:05] Yeah. It's pretty much in-line with Ubuntu and is official Canonical supported branch product. [03:05] Spanky: its actually not [03:05] Spanky: its a different product.. it will be supported by them [03:06] http://forum.zentyal.org/ is where i would start [03:06] holstein: I guess they lie on their web site then. [03:07] http://www.zentyal.com/ [03:09] do any of you use digitalocean? [03:09] I had a box there for a short while [03:09] they don't have ipv6 (still) so I am not moving services yet [03:10] I can get all of my static sites working but have many permission issues trying to get drupal or wordpress working [03:10] ipv6 probably wont be available with them until mid to late next year, they are in a feature freeze right now [03:12] Hi! When I put a test index.php () in my webroot(runnig ubuntu server 12.04 and nginx) the text gets shown properly and all looks good. But when I then upload (through fileZilla) my own index.php nothing gets shown. Its just a blank page. Anyone have any suggestions were to start troubleshooting? [03:13] you have php installed? [03:15] MarGul: http://serverfault.com/questions/110699/ascii-vs-binary-vs-auto - FileZilla defaults to ASCII on install and that may not be what you want. [03:16] MavKen: Yes I have php installed. When I run that test file (with php in it) everything works fine [03:16] Spanky: Okey, I will take a look at it :) [03:18] MarGul: For all the dirty details and the "WebMaster" pissing match that ensued see: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/4235 [03:26] Spanky: I had FileZilla set on Auto transfer before and changed it to binary. Still doesn't work. The thing is when Im in my webroot I can see the files and it all looks good. But I just get a blank page [03:27] I also tried to upload to my server, with same settings just a different webroot, and that worked just fine [03:28] I did that old upload like 10 days ago. Now I just changed my webroot on my virtual host file. Added that folder, and now I just get a blank page. What bothers me is that my test.php works just fine. But my own site do not work [04:05] on 13.10, is qemu-kvm (as a service) replaced by something else? [04:06] I noticed it's not longer available for restart - if you use tasksel to install the Virtual Machine group [04:07] codex: lib-virtd [04:10] Interesting. So libvirt is no longer separated from qemu/kvm, or is it just a hook of some sort? [04:10] I noticed qemu-system-x86 also replaced kvm [04:11] which I had read about already [07:59] i installed ubuntu-serever 13.10 on my system having amdA10 64bit arc. Then while starting it always gets stuck on bluetooth: failed applying patch. what should i do? [08:45] morning jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/charm-helpers/get_hostname/+merge/201347 === jodh` is now known as jodh [10:08] Hello, has anyone hosted a minecraft server? I need help with something [10:13] cvtsx, my nephew is hosting one [10:14] melmoth can you tell me how to get plugins working? i got my bukkit server up and running [10:14] and the plugin in my plugin folder [10:14] if i remember correctly, you "just" need to unzip the archive un the plugin folder and restart the server [10:15] it will create template config file for the plugin, set whatever you want in them, restart the server [10:15] here you are [10:17] how do i restart the server? [10:20] cvtsx, when i start the server, i end up with a "shell" on the server. I think stopping it can be done with "quit" or "exit" [10:20] not sure, i m not using that stuff regulalry, havent touch it for a year or so [10:21] yeah, i am using putty also [11:24] jamespage / rbasak: Planning to go to FOSDEM this time? [11:48] Daviey, not this year - I think rbasak is going tho [11:50] jamespage: :( === vamp is now known as VampiricPadraig === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara [14:09] rbasak: hey are you going to merge the new puppet? [14:13] zul: oooh. Yes, I can take that. Our delta is small - it might just be a sync. [14:13] rbasak: ack [14:20] zul, if you fancy trying it - https://launchpad.net/~mysql-ubuntu/+archive/percona/+packages [14:21] percona-xtradb-cluster for trusty [14:21] can't upload it yet as block on a licensing issue with OpenSSL [14:21] * jamespage sighs [14:21] hehhe [14:21] Daviey: I'll be there. Are you going? [14:21] jamespage: ill try to find some time to try it out [14:23] f u beanstalkd [14:32] zul, any ideas on ryengs's query re library versioning for 5.6? [14:34] jamespage: lemme go check [14:36] jamespage: nope :( [14:43] apache2 with userdir.conf ... despite "Options ...+ FollowSymLinks +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch" and checking the owners do match, the symlinked file isn't shown and there are no log-file clues as to why... what might I be missing? [14:59] my bad: symlink was faulty! === mjohnson15_2 is now known as mjohnson15 === mjohnson15_2 is now known as mjohnson15 [15:57] smoser: this is what i was seeing with euca2ools http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6745283/ [15:59] you probably need to give it a arch then. its a change in behavior, but generally a sane one. [16:08] I'm working on getting some Xen VM's running on my remote server, running 12.04. I have DOM0 running happily, and when I attempt to install 12.04 via a netboot image, it seems to get stuck right after getting network info [16:09] I see ocassional error messages that say something about a framebuffer, so I added fb=false to the boot options, but that hasn't changed the behavior [16:09] Any suggestions? My googling hasn't turned up anything that seems immediately useful. [16:10] For reference, I'm (roughtly) following the guide found here: http://www.bentasker.co.uk/documentation/linux/188-setting-up-xen-on-ubuntu-12-04 [16:13] qhartman, Could it be a problem with the virt bridge? For netboot to work you have to configure a transparent bridge manually (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Xen) [16:14] smb, The DOM0 is using the bridge interface to talk to the world, so I _think_ the bridge is configured right, and the vm seems to get it's dhcp config. I'll poke around for methods to test that, if you don't have any immediate suggestions. [16:16] qhartman, One issue can me the MAC address of the bridge. If not specified manually I found some references that it could change to the lowest connected to the bridge and that may change just when the virtual NIC comes up [16:17] smb, Interesting. I've not run into that using more usual bridge configs. I'll check that out. Thanks for the suggestion. [16:18] hi [16:19] i have a problem with maas: problem is, that nodes added to maas-server stay in state "commissioning" [16:19] they never change to state "ready" [16:19] and i dont know why... [16:20] is anyone able to help? ;) === Zap-W_ is now known as zxd [16:45] tomixxx: try #maas === Rallias is now known as hypernet [16:55] adam_g, if you have 10 - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/precise/nova-compute/resize-fixes/+merge/199266 [16:55] I'd forgotten about it [17:10] @pmatulis: ty for link :-) [18:00] jamespage, lgtm. is there a corresponding nova-c-c change? [18:29] jamespage: ping, re https://code.launchpad.net/~semiosis/ubuntu/trusty/glusterfs/fix-for-1268064 [18:38] If I have /etc/skel/public_html/ and wordpress in the public_html directory then set all permissions, will those carry over for each new user? [19:03] MavKen: the files themselves will be copied into new home directories; probably the permissions bits will stay the same, but the owner ought to be set to the owner of the new home directory [19:03] After a 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade my server logs are getting spammed every 6 seconds by systemd-logind as per: http://pastebin.ca/2535595 Anyone know why? [19:06] Delemas: you may wish to try asking in #ubuntu-desktop, I believe more the folks who would know about that are in there [19:06] Ok will do thanks. [19:09] is there any way to rsync or tarball up data and retain file permission settings? [19:10] tar -p should retain permissions [19:10] TheLordOfTime: tar --help | grep permissions [19:11] hitsujiTMO: thanks [19:12] After a 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade my server logs are getting spammed every 6 seconds by systemd-logind as per: http://pastebin.ca/2535595 Username is not logged in. Anyone know why? [19:13] Delemas: wrong chan :) hehe [19:13] doh [19:15] sarnold: any hope of beanstalkd getting done soon? [19:16] zul: depends if it builds for me.. [19:16] sarnold: should build now..fixed it this morning [19:16] zul: yay! <3 [19:27] hmmm.. [19:28] any one know why I wouldn't be permitted to rename these files? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6746435/ [19:28] the user teward is my user so i'm kinda at a loss o.O [19:28] TheLordOfTime: filenames are part of the containing directory; what are permissions / owner of the . directory? [19:28] (ls -ld .) [19:29] TheLordOfTime: what's the error you get when you try to rename them ? [19:30] sarnold: ikonia: probably better if i give you the full ls -alshF that I use, and the line before it on the command line showing the path I'm in... [19:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6746438/ [19:30] ikonia: mv: cannot move `nginx-settings.tar' to `etc_nginx-settings.tar': Permission denied [19:31] * TheLordOfTime was trying to rename it so he would remember where everything goes when he extracts the tarballs [19:31] TheLordOfTime: root:root no permissions for nonroot to move [19:31] TheLordOfTime: yeah, user 'root' can rename those files because root has rwx in that directory; you can either change the directory's group owner to teward, change the directory owner to teward, or bust out sudo [19:31] * TheLordOfTime facepalms [19:31] of course >.> [19:31] TheLordOfTime: remember, move is not rename [19:31] ikonia: yeah, i know... *facepalm* [19:31] oops ;) [19:32] i feel like a noob >.> [19:32] but, I guess even the best sysadmins sometimes screw up like this and forget things [19:32] don't be silly [19:32] easy to make silly slip ups [19:32] indeed [19:32] it happens to the best of us === fire is now known as hack === jrwren_ is now known as jrwren [19:37] hey does anybody here run ubuntu server with systemd? [19:40] eto: Seems to be the default with 13.10... [19:41] it isn't full systemd, upstart is still the init daemot; but some of the systemd-provided services are being used to replace the old consolekit and provide other gnome-required services [19:42] Delemas: i hear the desision was not yet made [19:42] sarnold: i mainly interested into server thing [19:43] ah k my mistake... [19:43] sarnold: i run arch on all my boxes but would be bit scared to run it on server [19:44] sarnold: but i already have some crap i made which already uses some systemd features [19:44] do you think server edition will move to systemd in the future? [19:45] 14.04 LTS will use upstart; it is unlikely future version will move to systemd, but I won't promise that.. [19:45] hmm [19:48] sarnold: given i have no clue about apt, and other ubuntu specific things, i guess i would need to learn all that anyway if i wanted to run ubuntu for server [19:48] this would be experimental machine for now to test things out, do you think it would be worth the time? [19:50] eto: I think it's always worth investing time to learn new things; a few quick hints about apt that made it more fun for me: apt-get update will update the indexes; apt-get -u dist-upgrade will upgrade the packages to newest in the indexes; apt-cache search will search package names and descriptions for [19:54] sarnold: let's say i want to compile some application extensions and such, this is dead easy on arch, as any given (library)package contains everything necessary (headers etc). I heard once, that there is split in ubuntu universe, between normal (for use)packages and "development" parts, correct? [19:54] sarnold: also ubuntu has some managemnt glue stuffed in, which regenrate actual control/config files, correct? [19:54] *regenrates [19:57] eto: correct, the headers are in -dev packages; "apt-get build-dep " will install all the packages needed to recompile the package [19:57] eto: the configuration mechanism is 'debconf'; support for it varies from package to package [19:57] sarnold: is it safe to have those *-dev packages on production server? [19:58] eto: yes [19:58] sarnold: for example on bsd they doesn't seem to have similar split either [19:58] sarnold: any reason this split was made or this was adopted from debian? [19:59] eto: adopted from debian; they figured that most users don't compile most of the time, so the bandwidth and storage could be saved by not including the headers in every package [20:00] sarnold: understood - that is good for desktop boxes and laptops, but not so useful on server correct? [20:01] eto: the server admins I know aim for fully-reproducable server systems; they'd prefer to compile the few packages they need to compile themselves in a reproducable format such as .deb packages using sbuild [20:01] then those packages can be distributed to their servres as needed [20:02] sarnold: i see that is similar to freebsd, where you build packages one box and then deploy them to rest [20:03] yep, no need for headers on deployed boxes, only build ones [20:04] sarnold: what if one server is powerful enough - virtualisation? eg have builder and rest of the boxes in vms? [20:04] patdk-wk: ^ sorry sarnold [20:04] I have a build box, I do my work on [20:04] then my other server just fetch it via normal updates [20:05] been doing that forever with rhel and ubuntu [20:05] but not sure what you mean about powerful enough [20:06] patdk-wk: well currently the iron runs vmware and virtualises four servers [20:06] my builders are normall like 2gigs ram, and 2cores [20:06] the one I build illumos on though, is 8cores, and 8gigs ram, it takes a long time to build [20:09] patdk-wk: this some is some blade box, there is antoher decomissioned one which returned "home" and is lying here unused. i wanted to try replicate current setup used for production myself on it, but i wanted to give sytemd try [20:09] patdk-wk: seems like there are systemd packages in ubuntu "repos" but those are slightly outdated [20:11] sorry for asking such stupid questions arch and freebsd is everything i used so far [20:48] hi. problems booting a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 server. / is on raid1+lvm. booting recovery mode shows md starting /dev/md0 okay, but then i get: device-mapper: table: 252:0: linear: dm-linear: device lookup failed etc, and i'm dumped to an initramfs shell. [20:49] /proc/mdstat indicates that the device is okay, and lvm pvs/vgs/lvs show the expected output, but /dev/mapper is empty (apart from control); also, booting recovery mode from the installation dvd can mount everything okay [20:49] md0 is "degraded" (the second disc is not yet available), which causes boot to have kittens when it tries to assemble the array, so i shrunk md0 to just one member (so md is now happy), but lvm booting off the install is not. [21:00] strixUK: Is your initrd built with raid support? [21:20] does `python-software-properties` get shipped with the server ISOs? [21:21] TheLordOfTime: check output of seeded-in-ubuntu software-properties [21:23] sarnold: looks like it's in the dailies in Trusty, any way to see if it's seeded in other releases? [21:25] TheLordOfTime: no idea, sorry [21:26] sarnold: maybe -release would know? [21:26] i mean i could pull the manifests but i'm lazy :P [21:26] (because add-apt-repository doesn't come with the 12.04.3 server ISO and i'm wondering if it does in later seeds) [21:26] (and that's part of python-software-properties in the older releases) [21:35] jamespage: ping [22:03] genii: no idea, but i would hope that the stock initrd had raid+lvm support if the installer allows those options. [22:03] genii: in any event, the kernel evidently can /see/ both the RAID array and the LVs, because they are visible in /proc and lvm respectively === mjohnson15_2 is now known as mjohnson15 === thumper is now known as thumper-gym