[01:05] <Overand> Not sure if I want to ask in here or in some ubuntu-related channel, but I figured it was worth a shot.  VM host - Arch Linux, pretty up to date.  Running GNU Screen.  SSHed into several machines - one of which is running Ubuntu-Server 12.04.  And inside that, i've got a non-fully-functional terminal!  Like, I can't use less, I get "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional".  For what it's worth,
[01:05] <Overand> er, cut off. For what it's worth, $TERM is "screen.linux" on the ubuntu system
[02:19] <Overand> Well, to resolev that issue, I just needed to install "ncurses-term" on the ubuntu system.
[02:56] <Spanky> Trying to update my Ubuntu 10.04 Base (Zentyal).  Get the following:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6742414/
[02:57] <Spanky> Any good ideas to force the update?
[02:57] <jkitchen> Spanky: there's more than just that
[02:58] <holstein> Spanky: yeah, they'll have to support it http://www.zentyal.org/ ..otherwise, 10.04 ubuntu is still supported on the server
[02:59] <Spanky> I tried most of this already and no dice: http://goo.gl/XcsLLd
[02:59] <holstein> i know, i would just want to get "sudo apt-get update" to complete without error
[02:59] <holstein> could be any custom package or source ppa that they add though
[03:01] <Spanky> I guess it may be time for updating to Zentyal 3.X Server (which is built on top of Ubuntu Server)...
[03:01] <Spanky> Doesn't 10.04 support / updates run out pretty soon?
[03:02] <Spanky> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - Guess it's April 2015...
[03:03] <holstein> Spanky: i dont konw what zentyal does, or what the support length is.. they could be based on 10.04, and support it for a shorter period than stock ubuntu,a nd that could break things.. or they could support it as long as they please
[03:05] <Spanky> Yeah.  It's pretty much in-line with Ubuntu and is official Canonical supported branch product.
[03:05] <holstein> Spanky: its actually not
[03:05] <holstein> Spanky: its a different product.. it will be supported by them
[03:06] <holstein> http://forum.zentyal.org/ is where i would start
[03:06] <Spanky> holstein:  I guess they lie on their web site then.
[03:07] <Spanky> http://www.zentyal.com/
[03:09] <MavKen> do any of you use digitalocean?
[03:09] <jkitchen> I had a box there for a short while
[03:09] <jkitchen> they don't have ipv6 (still) so I am not moving services yet
[03:10] <MavKen> I can get all of my static sites working but have many permission issues trying to get drupal or wordpress working
[03:10] <MavKen> ipv6 probably wont be available with them until mid to late next year, they are in a feature freeze right now
[03:12] <MarGul> Hi! When I put a test index.php (<html><body><?php echo "This works!"; ?></body></html>) in my webroot(runnig ubuntu server 12.04 and nginx) the text gets shown properly and all looks good. But when I then upload (through fileZilla) my own index.php nothing gets shown. Its just a blank page. Anyone have any suggestions were to start troubleshooting?
[03:13] <MavKen> you have php installed?
[03:15] <Spanky> MarGul:  http://serverfault.com/questions/110699/ascii-vs-binary-vs-auto - FileZilla defaults to ASCII on install and that may not be what you want.
[03:16] <MarGul> MavKen: Yes I have php installed. When I run that test file (with php in it) everything works fine
[03:16] <MarGul> Spanky: Okey, I will take a look at it :)
[03:18] <Spanky> MarGul:  For all the dirty details and the "WebMaster" pissing match that ensued see:  http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/4235
[03:26] <MarGul> Spanky: I had FileZilla set on Auto transfer before and changed it to binary. Still doesn't work. The thing is when Im in my webroot I can see the files and it all looks good. But I just get a blank page
[03:27] <MarGul> I also tried to upload to my server, with same settings just a different webroot, and that worked just fine
[03:28] <MarGul> I did that old upload like 10 days ago. Now I just changed my webroot on my virtual host file. Added that folder, and now I just get a blank page. What bothers me is that my test.php works just fine. But my own site do not work
[04:05] <codex> on 13.10, is qemu-kvm (as a service) replaced by something else?
[04:06] <codex> I noticed it's not longer available for restart - if you use tasksel to install the Virtual Machine group
[04:07] <sheptard> codex: lib-virtd
[04:10] <codex> Interesting. So libvirt is no longer separated from qemu/kvm, or is it just a hook of some sort?
[04:10] <codex> I noticed qemu-system-x86 also replaced kvm
[04:11] <codex> which I had read about already
[07:59] <BadBoY__> i installed ubuntu-serever 13.10 on my system having amdA10 64bit arc. Then while starting it always gets stuck on bluetooth: failed applying patch. what should i do?
[08:45] <yolanda> morning jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/charm-helpers/get_hostname/+merge/201347
[10:08] <cvtsx> Hello, has anyone hosted a minecraft server? I need help with something
[10:13] <melmoth> cvtsx, my nephew is hosting one
[10:14] <cvtsx> melmoth can you tell me how to get plugins working? i got my bukkit server up and running
[10:14] <cvtsx> and the plugin in my plugin folder
[10:14] <melmoth> if i remember correctly, you "just" need to unzip the archive un the plugin folder and restart the server
[10:15] <melmoth> it will create template config file for the plugin, set whatever you want in them, restart the server
[10:15] <melmoth> here you are
[10:17] <cvtsx> how do i restart the server?
[10:20] <melmoth> cvtsx, when i start the server, i end up with a "shell" on the server. I think stopping it can be done with "quit" or "exit"
[10:20] <melmoth> not sure, i m not using that stuff regulalry, havent touch it for a year or so
[10:21] <cvtsx> yeah, i am using putty also
[11:24] <Daviey> jamespage / rbasak: Planning to go to FOSDEM this time?
[11:48] <jamespage> Daviey, not this year - I think rbasak is going tho
[11:50] <Daviey> jamespage: :(
[14:09] <zul> rbasak:  hey are you going to merge the new puppet?
[14:13] <rbasak> zul: oooh. Yes, I can take that. Our delta is small - it might just be a sync.
[14:13] <zul> rbasak:  ack
[14:20] <jamespage> zul, if you fancy trying it - https://launchpad.net/~mysql-ubuntu/+archive/percona/+packages
[14:21] <jamespage> percona-xtradb-cluster for trusty
[14:21] <jamespage> can't upload it yet as block on a licensing issue with OpenSSL
[14:21]  * jamespage sighs
[14:21] <zul> hehhe
[14:21] <rbasak> Daviey: I'll be there. Are you going?
[14:21] <zul> jamespage:  ill try to find some time to try it out
[14:23] <zul> f u beanstalkd
[14:32] <jamespage> zul, any ideas on ryengs's query re library versioning for 5.6?
[14:34] <zul> jamespage:  lemme go check
[14:36] <zul> jamespage:  nope :(
[14:43] <TJ-> apache2 with userdir.conf ... despite "Options ...+ FollowSymLinks +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch" and checking the owners do match, the symlinked file isn't shown and there are no log-file clues as to why... what might I be missing?
[14:59] <TJ-> my bad: symlink was faulty!
[15:57] <zul> smoser: this is what i was seeing with euca2ools http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6745283/
[15:59] <smoser> you probably need to give it a arch then. its a change in behavior, but generally a sane one.
[16:08] <qhartman> I'm working on getting some Xen VM's running on my remote server, running 12.04. I have DOM0 running happily, and when I attempt to install 12.04 via a netboot image, it seems to get stuck right after getting network info
[16:09] <qhartman> I see ocassional error messages that say something about a framebuffer, so I added fb=false to the boot options, but that hasn't changed the behavior
[16:09] <qhartman> Any suggestions? My googling hasn't turned up anything that seems immediately useful.
[16:10] <qhartman> For reference, I'm (roughtly) following the guide found here: http://www.bentasker.co.uk/documentation/linux/188-setting-up-xen-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:13] <smb> qhartman, Could it be a problem with the virt bridge?  For netboot to work you have to configure a transparent bridge manually (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/Xen)
[16:14] <qhartman> smb, The DOM0 is using the bridge interface to talk to the world, so I _think_ the bridge is configured right, and the vm seems to get it's dhcp config. I'll poke around for methods to test that, if you don't have any immediate suggestions.
[16:16] <smb> qhartman, One issue can me the MAC address of the bridge. If not specified manually I found some references that it could change to the lowest connected to the bridge and that may change just when the virtual NIC comes up
[16:17] <qhartman> smb, Interesting. I've not run into that using more usual bridge configs. I'll check that out. Thanks for the suggestion.
[16:18] <tomixxx> hi
[16:19] <tomixxx> i have a problem with maas: problem is, that nodes added to maas-server stay in state "commissioning"
[16:19] <tomixxx> they never change to state "ready"
[16:19] <tomixxx> and i dont know why...
[16:20] <tomixxx> is anyone able to help? ;)
[16:45] <pmatulis_> tomixxx: try #maas
[16:55] <jamespage> adam_g, if you have 10 - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/precise/nova-compute/resize-fixes/+merge/199266
[16:55] <jamespage> I'd forgotten about it
[17:10] <tomixxx> @pmatulis: ty for link :-)
[18:00] <adam_g> jamespage, lgtm.  is there a corresponding  nova-c-c change?
[18:29] <semiosis> jamespage: ping, re https://code.launchpad.net/~semiosis/ubuntu/trusty/glusterfs/fix-for-1268064
[18:38] <MavKen> If I have /etc/skel/public_html/ and wordpress in the public_html directory then set all permissions, will those carry over for each new user?
[19:03] <sarnold> MavKen: the files themselves will be copied into new home directories; probably the permissions bits will stay the same, but the owner ought to be set to the owner of the new home directory
[19:03] <Delemas> After a 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade my server logs are getting spammed every 6 seconds by systemd-logind as per: http://pastebin.ca/2535595  Anyone know why?
[19:06] <sarnold> Delemas: you may wish to try asking in #ubuntu-desktop, I believe more the folks who would know about that are in there
[19:06] <Delemas> Ok will do thanks.
[19:09] <TheLordOfTime> is there any way to rsync or tarball up data and retain file permission settings?
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> tar -p should retain permissions
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> TheLordOfTime: tar --help | grep permissions
[19:11] <TheLordOfTime> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[19:12] <Delemas> After a 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade my server logs are getting spammed every 6 seconds by systemd-logind as per: http://pastebin.ca/2535595  Username is not logged in. Anyone know why?
[19:13] <sarnold> Delemas: wrong chan :) hehe
[19:13] <Delemas> doh
[19:15] <zul> sarnold: any hope of beanstalkd getting done soon?
[19:16] <sarnold> zul: depends if it builds for me..
[19:16] <zul> sarnold: should build now..fixed it this morning
[19:16] <sarnold> zul: yay! <3
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> hmmm..
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> any one know why I wouldn't be permitted to rename these files?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6746435/
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> the user teward is my user so i'm kinda at a loss o.O
[19:28] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: filenames are part of the containing directory; what are permissions / owner of the . directory?
[19:28] <sarnold> (ls -ld .)
[19:29] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: what's the error you get when you try to rename them ?
[19:30] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: ikonia: probably better if i give you the full ls -alshF that I use, and the line before it on the command line showing the path I'm in...
[19:30] <TheLordOfTime> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6746438/
[19:30] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia: mv: cannot move `nginx-settings.tar' to `etc_nginx-settings.tar': Permission denied
[19:31]  * TheLordOfTime was trying to rename it so he would remember where everything goes when he extracts the tarballs
[19:31] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: root:root no permissions for nonroot to move
[19:31] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: yeah, user 'root' can rename those files because root has rwx in that directory; you can either change the directory's group owner to teward, change the directory owner to teward, or bust out sudo
[19:31]  * TheLordOfTime facepalms
[19:31] <TheLordOfTime> of course >.>
[19:31] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: remember, move is not rename
[19:31] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia: yeah, i know... *facepalm*
[19:31] <ikonia> oops ;)
[19:32] <TheLordOfTime> i feel like a noob >.>
[19:32] <TheLordOfTime> but, I guess even the best sysadmins sometimes screw up like this and forget things
[19:32] <ikonia> don't be silly
[19:32] <ikonia> easy to make silly slip ups
[19:32] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[19:32] <TheLordOfTime> it happens to the best of us
[19:37] <eto> hey does anybody here run ubuntu server with systemd?
[19:40] <Delemas> eto: Seems to be the default with 13.10...
[19:41] <sarnold> it isn't full systemd, upstart is still the init daemot; but some of the systemd-provided services are being used to replace the old consolekit and provide other gnome-required services
[19:42] <eto> Delemas: i hear the desision was not yet made
[19:42] <eto> sarnold: i mainly interested into server thing
[19:43] <Delemas> ah k my mistake...
[19:43] <eto> sarnold: i run arch on all my boxes but would be bit scared to run it on server
[19:44] <eto> sarnold: but i already have some crap i made which already uses some systemd features
[19:44] <eto> do you think server edition will move to systemd in the future?
[19:45] <sarnold> 14.04 LTS will use upstart; it is unlikely future version will move to systemd, but I won't promise that..
[19:45] <eto> hmm
[19:48] <eto> sarnold: given i have no clue about apt, and other ubuntu specific things, i guess i would need to learn all that anyway if i wanted to run ubuntu for server
[19:48] <eto> this would be experimental machine for now to test things out, do you think it would be worth the time?
[19:50] <sarnold> eto: I think it's always worth investing time to learn new things; a few quick hints about apt that made it more fun for me: apt-get update  will update the indexes; apt-get -u dist-upgrade will upgrade the packages to newest in the indexes; apt-cache search <foo> will search package names and descriptions for <foo>
[19:54] <eto> sarnold: let's say i want to compile some application extensions and such, this is dead easy on arch, as any given (library)package contains everything necessary (headers etc). I heard once, that there is split in ubuntu universe, between normal (for use)packages and "development" parts, correct?
[19:54] <eto> sarnold: also ubuntu has some managemnt glue stuffed in, which regenrate actual control/config files, correct?
[19:54] <eto> *regenrates
[19:57] <sarnold> eto: correct, the headers are in -dev packages; "apt-get build-dep <foo>" will install all the packages needed to recompile the <foo> package
[19:57] <sarnold> eto: the configuration mechanism is 'debconf'; support for it varies from package to package
[19:57] <eto> sarnold: is it safe to have those *-dev packages on production server?
[19:58] <sarnold> eto: yes
[19:58] <eto> sarnold: for example on bsd they doesn't seem to have similar split either
[19:58] <eto> sarnold: any reason this split was made or this was adopted from debian?
[19:59] <sarnold> eto: adopted from debian; they figured that most users don't compile most of the time, so the bandwidth and storage could be saved by not including the headers in every package
[20:00] <eto> sarnold: understood - that is good for desktop boxes  and laptops, but not so useful on server correct?
[20:01] <sarnold> eto: the server admins I know aim for fully-reproducable server systems; they'd prefer to compile the few packages they need to compile themselves in a reproducable format such as .deb packages using sbuild
[20:01] <sarnold> then those packages can be distributed to their servres as needed
[20:02] <eto> sarnold: i see that is similar to freebsd, where you build packages one box and then deploy them to rest
[20:03] <patdk-wk> yep, no need for headers on deployed boxes, only build ones
[20:04] <eto> sarnold: what if one server is powerful enough - virtualisation? eg have builder and rest of the boxes in vms?
[20:04] <eto> patdk-wk: ^ sorry sarnold
[20:04] <patdk-wk> I have a build box, I do my work on
[20:04] <patdk-wk> then my other server just fetch it via normal updates
[20:05] <patdk-wk> been doing that forever with rhel and ubuntu
[20:05] <patdk-wk> but not sure what you mean about powerful enough
[20:06] <eto> patdk-wk: well currently the iron runs vmware and virtualises four servers
[20:06] <patdk-wk> my builders are normall like 2gigs ram, and 2cores
[20:06] <patdk-wk> the one I build illumos on though, is 8cores, and 8gigs ram, it takes a long time to build
[20:09] <eto> patdk-wk: this some is some blade box, there is antoher decomissioned one which returned "home" and is lying here unused. i wanted to try replicate current setup used for production myself on it, but i wanted to give sytemd try
[20:09] <eto> patdk-wk: seems like there are systemd packages in ubuntu "repos" but those are slightly outdated
[20:11] <eto> sorry for asking such stupid questions arch and freebsd is everything i used so far
[20:48] <strixUK> hi.  problems booting a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 server.  / is on raid1+lvm.  booting  recovery mode shows md starting /dev/md0 okay, but then i get: device-mapper: table: 252:0: linear: dm-linear: device lookup failed etc, and i'm dumped to an initramfs shell.
[20:49] <strixUK> /proc/mdstat indicates that the device is okay, and lvm pvs/vgs/lvs show the expected output, but /dev/mapper is empty (apart from control); also, booting recovery mode from the installation dvd can mount everything okay
[20:49] <strixUK> md0 is "degraded" (the second disc is not yet available), which causes boot to have kittens when it tries to assemble the array, so i shrunk md0 to just one member (so md is now happy), but lvm booting off the install is not.
[21:00] <genii> strixUK: Is your initrd built with raid support?
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> does `python-software-properties` get shipped with the server ISOs?
[21:21] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: check output of seeded-in-ubuntu software-properties
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: looks like it's in the dailies in Trusty, any way to see if it's seeded in other releases?
[21:25] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: no idea, sorry
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: maybe -release would know?
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> i mean i could pull the manifests but i'm lazy :P
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> (because add-apt-repository doesn't come with the 12.04.3 server ISO and i'm wondering if it does in later seeds)
[21:26] <TheLordOfTime> (and that's part of python-software-properties in the older releases)
[21:35] <semiosis> jamespage: ping
[22:03] <strixUK> genii: no idea, but i would hope that the stock initrd had raid+lvm support if the installer allows those options.
[22:03] <strixUK> genii: in any event, the kernel evidently can /see/ both the RAID array and the LVs, because they are visible in /proc and lvm respectively