[00:39] <pleia2> philipballew: oops, just saw your meeting announcement
[00:39] <philipballew> pleia2, no worries!
[00:40] <philipballew> I figured you were either traveling or jet lagged so I just went and send it.
[00:40] <philipballew> but then again, you are always kinda traveling these days.
[00:40] <pleia2> so jetlagged that when I do get around to sending it, I don't check if someone else sent it first ;)
[00:41] <pleia2> not traveling again until scale!
[00:41] <philipballew> pleia2, no worries. I'll be at the meeting. (If I am not tweet or call or text and I'll hop on)
[00:42] <philipballew> SCALE is an easy two hour car ride for me in reavol's car...
[00:42] <pleia2> I am trying to convince mjoseph to take the train down
[00:43] <philipballew> pleia2, iirc, you can take one that goes along the coast.
[00:43] <pleia2> yep
[00:43] <pleia2> the coast starlight
[00:43] <philipballew> and trains have wifi
[00:43] <philipballew> so there is that
[00:44] <philipballew> I was gonna look at megabus, greyhound and train prices to show at the meeting tonight in hopes people will buy them and come down...
[00:45] <philipballew> also pleia2 I hear Southwest has some really good deals :) :)
[00:46] <pleia2> I don't fly off alliance ;P
[00:46] <pleia2> need my FF miles!
[00:46] <philipballew> yeah, Southwest if the only sac to san diego direct so I do them for that. I like Us Airways, but have never had good luck with United.
[00:47] <philipballew> by us air, I mean old us air...
[00:47] <philipballew> not American
[00:47] <pleia2> heh, united is awful
[00:47] <philipballew> I spent the night at sfo because United canceled my flight...
[00:47] <pleia2> I flew them honolulu to sfo this morning (or last night, I am not really sure what day it is)
[00:48] <pleia2> on united
[00:48] <pleia2> unattentive staff, grumpy counter people
[00:49] <philipballew> But they still make money because they go everywhere.
[00:50] <philipballew> They fly into small towns, and big towns.
[00:50] <pleia2> sfo is a united hub, so I end up on them annoyingly frequently
[00:51] <pleia2> but usairways is moving to oneworld with the merger, so I won't anymore after march
[00:51] <philipballew> are you going to stay with them now though?
[00:51] <philipballew> with us air going to American?
[00:51] <pleia2> yeah
[00:52] <pleia2> I was going to switch to united, but it turns out usairways is going to keep some of their international partnerships (which is really the important thing for me)
[00:52] <pleia2> http://www.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/alliances/codeshare.html
[00:52] <darthrobot`> Title: [US Airways | Codeshare partners]
[00:52] <philipballew> also going through Sky Harbor all the time is what sells it to you.
[00:53] <pleia2> no more Lufthansa, which makes me sad :\
[00:53]  * philipballew has never left north America...
[00:53]  * philipballew does however leave the country three times a week as he can see the border from his house.
[00:54] <pleia2> I'd never even left the country until 2008 (I was 27)
[00:54] <pleia2> went to canada!
[00:54] <pleia2> then in 2009 I went to england, and the rest is history ;)
[00:55] <philipballew> pleia2, your passport must look cool.
[00:55] <pleia2> it'll look empty soon (name change)
[00:56] <philipballew> Ah, i hear marriage can do that.
[00:56] <philipballew> I got a new passport a few months ago, but I use a passport card for most of my travels across the border.
[01:39] <nhaines> pleia2: I believe you can submit your old passport and get the pages transferred!
[02:48] <rww> o/
[03:01] <pleia2> o/
[03:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[03:01] <pleia2> who all is here for the meeting? :)
[03:01]  * eps waves
[03:01] <philipballew> oh hey everyone
[03:01] <akk> hi
[03:02] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14January12
[03:02] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14January12 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:02] <pleia2> meeting agenda, mostly just scale :)
[03:02] <pleia2> #topic Scale12x planning
[03:02] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x
[03:02] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:02] <pleia2> philipballew: care to fill us in on any updates?
[03:03] <philipballew> We are still looking for any volunteers who want to help.
[03:03] <pleia2> my main conference talk was accepted (yay!) so I'll be coming and speaking at ubucon too
[03:03]  * rww added himself to the volunteer list
[03:03] <pleia2> philipballew: any news on booth number/placement?
[03:03] <philipballew> I am also this week going to call Ema at System76 to see if they can bring an extra laptop or two for us to demo.
[03:03] <pleia2> nice
[03:03] <philipballew> pleia2, not yet, but we should soon.
[03:03] <philipballew> no matter what, we will get it.
[03:04] <philipballew> so not much to worry about there.
[03:04] <pleia2> rww: think I can put a box of booth goodies in your car? :)
[03:04] <rww> pleia2: yep, that should be fine
[03:04] <pleia2> awesome
[03:04] <philipballew> I have a banner here and I am I am getting a conference pack.
[03:04] <rww> I'll probably be taking 2 or 3 computers down with me too
[03:04] <philipballew> I got Canonical to send us Nexas's to demo
[03:04] <pleia2> wow, nice
[03:04] <philipballew> they arrived from the uk not long ago
[03:04] <pleia2> rww: cool
[03:05] <philipballew> all work and I will go over them with people.
[03:05]  * pleia2 nods
[03:05] <rww> sweet
[03:05] <philipballew> I am gonna see if we have any other stuff we should be handing out that is not in the normal conference pack as well.
[03:05] <philipballew> be in Juju or anything else.
[03:06] <pleia2> great
[03:06] <philipballew> for sure.
[03:06] <pleia2> I'm trying to convince a couple projects to get their Ubuntu flyers done in time for us to print some for scale, we'll see
[03:07] <philipballew> pleia2, perfect. I think that if everybody working the Ubuntu booth would be wearing some sort of Ubuntu apparel that would also be good.
[03:07] <eps> Do we want candy again (if not, what would take its place)?
[03:08] <pleia2> eps: I think so
[03:08] <pleia2> I shall bring the dishes
[03:08] <eps> Chocolate, not chocolate, loose, individually wrapped?
[03:09] <pleia2> the individually wrapped thing was good, scale flu considering :)
[03:10] <pleia2> no preference candy-wise though, I like candy, I like chocolate
[03:10] <philipballew> Some hand sanitizer for the booth for people who want to shake hands?
[03:10] <pleia2> yeah, I think that's on the list
[03:10] <philipballew> right
[03:10] <pleia2> (no one signed up to bring it yet though)
[03:10] <eps> Don't look at me; TSA won't let me take that on the plane.
[03:11] <pleia2> I might see if I have the one from last year ;)
[03:11] <eps> Does it have an expiration date?
[03:11] <pleia2> hopefully richard will have the ubucon site up soon too, I emailed him last week to offer some assistance
[03:11] <pleia2> yeah, but I think it's a few years out
[03:11] <philipballew> I also got cd's
[03:11] <philipballew> about 200 desktop and server for 12.04
[03:11] <pleia2> 12.04?
[03:12]  * pleia2 nods
[03:12] <philipballew> they are trying to get rid of them I think.
[03:12] <pleia2> didn't you read nhaines' blog post? ;)
[03:12] <pleia2> yeah
[03:12] <philipballew> I glanced. :)
[03:12] <eps> Are they original 12.04 or a recent point release?
[03:12] <pleia2> I don't think they press point releases
[03:13] <eps> Which means no hardware enablement stack. :-(
[03:13] <philipballew> eps, People do not care what release it is. They want an official CD because it says Ubuntu on it.
[03:13] <philipballew> People already are gonna be running Ubuntu.
[03:14] <philipballew> few people try Ubuntu for the first time because they got a CD from a linux show.
[03:14] <philipballew> but that is just what I would think.
[03:14] <holstein> yeah.. too many variables
[03:14] <eps> That's not my attitude when I visit the Fedora booth.
[03:14] <holstein> best case, they put it in in windows and read some autorun thing
[03:15] <philipballew> eps, Fedora does flash drives now iirc.
[03:15] <holstein> i just wanted a real one
[03:15] <philipballew> holstein, I can see that.
[03:15] <eps> Flash drives cost $$$. CD/DVD media is cheap.
[03:15] <holstein> i got a few 9.10 server cd's from akgraner back in the day.. i was stoked :)
[03:16] <holstein> then, i get a stack of 12.04 desktop ones i gave out
[03:16] <philipballew> eps, si amigo.
[03:16] <philipballew> holstein, I think the peple who take them from a linux event might give them out to their friends
[03:17] <holstein> yeah, i mean, we already have access. or have already used them
[03:17] <pleia2> anyway, 12.04 is what we have, we don't really have the resources to change that
[03:17] <philipballew> yeah, true.
[03:17] <holstein> i think 12.04 is a good call
[03:17] <holstein> its not a bad call
[03:17] <pleia2> we'll just explain that it's from 2012 and they can directly upgrade to 14.04 when it comes out in april
[03:17] <philipballew> true. I think that if someone wants to install a dofferent version they can install their own, and we can even show them how.
[03:17] <pleia2> yeah
[03:17] <rww> could always offer to burn 13.10 to USB stick, i think we've done that before
[03:18] <rww> or 12.04.whateveritis
[03:18] <philipballew> rww, I could bring a flash drive with all the iso's on it they can barrow if they want to copy it.
[03:18] <pleia2> yeah, someone bringing isos would be good
[03:18] <eps> 12.04.4 LTS by then
[03:18] <pleia2> philipballew: great
[03:18] <holstein> i have a user in my LUG trying to get with me to "update her system".. says she cant do wifi/skype/libreoffic.. someone else in the LUG set her up with a non-lts release, and im suspicous that that is the issue
[03:18] <pleia2> philipballew: want to add that to the wiki
[03:18] <rww> philipballew: or just stick it in the computer i will be bringing and dd
[03:18] <pleia2> ?
[03:18] <rww> philipballew: but yeah
[03:18] <rww> i'll probably have some too
[03:18] <pleia2> nice
[03:18] <philipballew> pleia2, sure
[03:18] <pleia2> ok, anything else re: scale?
[03:19] <eps> Just the usual request ... if any locals have, e.g., Carl's Jr. coupons to bring them
[03:20]  * pleia2 nods
[03:20] <pleia2> #topic team election
[03:20] <pleia2> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-January/002356.html
[03:20] <darthrobot`> Title: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu California LoCo leadership election]
[03:20] <pleia2> jyo sent out the ballot a few days ago
[03:21] <pleia2> if you're in the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california team and have a public email address but don't have a ballot, contact him :)
[03:21] <darthrobot`> Title: [Ubuntu California in Launchpad]
[03:21] <eps> I don't believe I ever received a ballot, but given that there appear to be exactly three candidates for three positions, it's pretty much a foregone conclusion?
[03:21] <pleia2> ..of course it's a vote of 3 people for 3 spots, but it's good for the team to get used to this process
[03:21] <rww> stupid question: why are we having an election to put 3... oh, okay
[03:22] <pleia2> eps: you don't have a public email address on launchpad
[03:22] <philipballew> rww, because Elections are all the rage these days.
[03:22] <eps> pleia2: I'm not convinced that's a bad thing.
[03:23] <pleia2> eps: sure, just means we don't have a way to send you a ballot
[03:23] <pleia2> if you want one, just show jyo your launchpad page and give him your address :)
[03:24] <pleia2> the poll will close tomorrow
[03:24] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[03:24] <pleia2> anything else before we wrap up for the evening?
[03:24] <holstein> sorry folks.. i didnt realize you were having a meeting when i was chattin earlier.. cheers!
[03:25] <pleia2> hehe
[03:25] <eps> Any Ubuntu Hours coming up?
[03:25] <rww> SF next/this week, I think
[03:25] <pleia2> ah yes, on wednesday
[03:25] <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2663-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/
[03:26] <darthrobot`> Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:26] <pleia2> no debian dinner planned (did one last month, and I'm too tired this week)
[03:27] <rww> pleia2: how big is box o' scale stuff?
[03:27] <rww> BARTable size, or...?
[03:27] <pleia2> rww: bartable
[03:27] <pleia2> philipballew has a banner+tablecloth down south now, so no need to bring the ones I have here for once
[03:27] <rww> will grab it wednesday then, if it'll be ready by then
[03:27] <rww> if not we can figure something else out
[03:27] <pleia2> sure, I'll put it together before wednesday :)
[03:29] <pleia2> alright, thanks for coming everyone
[03:30] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[03:30] <darthrobot`> Meeting ended Mon Jan 13 03:30:14 2014 UTC.
[03:30] <darthrobot`> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-01-13-03.01.moin.txt
[03:30]  * pleia2 seeks dinner
[03:31] <eps> There's a Subway near you. ;-)
[03:32] <philipballew> I have eaten at the Subway.
[03:32] <philipballew> Finding cheap food in a big city can be hard sometimes.
[03:33] <philipballew> not as hard as grocery shopping though sometimes.
[03:34] <eps> There's a California-only Subway app for Android and iOS devices. http://www.zippyyum.com/Qrcode/DownloadApp/
[03:34] <darthrobot`> Title: [Error reading title]
[03:35] <eps> It's ... entertaining.
[05:53] <jyo> Yes, please poke me if you want a ballot before I close the poll tomorrow.
[17:02] <raevol> happy monday -_-
[18:22] <philipballew> pleia2, Talked to Emma in Denver and they are gonna bring a few extra laptops for the booth.
[18:36] <raevol> \o/
[18:47] <philipballew> heck yeah raevol
[18:47] <raevol> hehe
[22:12] <jyo> Any more voters for the LoCo election? One more would push us over 35% turnout. ;)