[10:22] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:28] <lazypower> Morning
[10:29] <JonathanD> hey lazypower
[10:29] <lazypower> Whats  shakin
[10:29] <JonathanD> nothing yet.
[10:30] <lazypower> I wish I could say the same. I've been up most of the night. Finding it hard to sleep. I start my new job today
[10:31] <rmg51> Morning
[10:32] <lazypower> Morning rmg51
[10:32] <rmg51> o/
[10:33] <JonathanD> hi rmg51
[10:33] <rmg51> o/
[10:33] <JonathanD> lazypower: cool on job.
[10:34] <lazypower> Thanks. I'm pretty stoked as you can tell.
[11:53] <pvl1> lazypower what job
[11:53] <lazypower> pvl1, i joined the Canonical Juju team
[11:54] <lazypower> Life Achievement unlocked
[11:54] <pvl1> what is that
[11:54] <pvl1> juju team
[11:54] <lazypower> The most amazing kind of deployment orchestration.
[11:54] <lazypower> jujucharms.com
[11:55] <lazypower> and a solid promo video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yoIdgdqzLk
[11:55] <pvl1> that's so awesome, congrats dude. you must be excited as a kid in a candy store
[11:55] <pvl1> kinda jealous not gonna lie
[11:55] <lazypower> You know it. I've been fanboy'ing like crazy ever since I got the call
[11:57] <pvl1> they found you or did u apply
[11:57] <lazypower> A bit of both
[11:58] <lazypower> I met Marco Ceppi at a stack overflow meetup in DC 3 years ago, we've been best of friends ever since, he encouraged me to apply
[11:58] <lazypower> so, its been a 2 way street
[11:58] <pvl1> hm, social networking
[11:59] <pvl1> so where is the office
[11:59] <lazypower> I think my big plus is that I have some chef experience and I was working on a competing project in my spare time, so i've got a level of working knowledge they are looking for.
[11:59] <pvl1> and what will you be doing
[11:59] <lazypower> Home base for canonical is in the UK, there's a maryland satellite office for the eastern seaboard.
[12:00] <lazypower> I'll be working on the juju tools, charms, supporting charm authors, providing community support, this is all first hand witness to what the team does now and speculation. I won't know my core duties until today.
[12:00] <pvl1> so u have to drive to maryland
[12:00] <pvl1> or u work from home
[12:02] <lazypower> Working from home
[12:03] <lazypower> I say working on a competing product - sounds like i was writing deployment orchestration. I was looking into chef's orchestration tools that are starting to mature into a beta state is a more accurate description.
[12:03] <lazypower> pvl1, they have open positions
[12:04] <lazypower> http://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies
[12:07] <pvl1> psssht I wish. no official experience. all self taigjt
[12:08] <pvl1> taught
[12:12] <lazypower> Same here. I've been working for a marketing firm the last 3 years
[12:12] <lazypower> not exactly where I thought I wound find myself buried ins ervers up to my neck that required configuration management.
[12:13] <lazypower> But it would be a crime for me not to point out they offer employment based on merit, not based on years experience or title.
[12:15] <pvl1> merrit?
[12:33] <waltman> lazypower: Awesome! When can we put you on the schedule to talk about juju at plug and/or fosscon?
[12:33] <waltman> :)
[12:41] <lazypower> waltman, anytime you like. I've been hacking around on it since the end of November
[12:44] <lazypower> Wait we have a fosscon here in PA?
[12:45] <lazypower> What have I been doing with my life?
[12:51] <pvl1> when is next fosscon
[12:53] <waltman> I don't know that they've announced dates yet, but it's traditionally held on the hottest Saturday in August.
[12:54] <pvl1> oh kool I can make that
[12:57] <JonathanD> pvl1: aug 9
[12:57] <JonathanD> or is it 8
[12:57] <JonathanD> it's not announced yet though.
[12:57] <JonathanD> Soon!
[12:58] <waltman> it will be whichever date is supposed to be hottest in the (very) extended forecast :)
[12:58] <JonathanD> yes.
[12:58] <JonathanD> what waltman said
[12:58] <JonathanD> oh it looks like I have a venue contract
[12:58] <JonathanD> maybe I can announce now.
[12:58] <JonathanD> venue + keynote = announcement
[12:59] <JonathanD> by the way, our keynote is looking for a place to bunk, if anyone would like to offer.
[13:00] <waltman> does he have rules about also bunking his pet parrot?
[13:00] <JonathanD> no
[13:00] <JonathanD> Oh, you don't know the keynote yet :)
[13:01] <waltman> I do not.
[13:01] <JonathanD> John Hall.
[13:01] <JonathanD> to my knowledge, he does not have a parrot.
[13:01] <waltman> Didn't he used to work with Oates?
[13:02] <pvl1> idk who that is. are we supposed to show up witjh our irc nickd or actual names
[13:02] <JonathanD> pvl1: it's not uncommon to put your irc nick along with your name on your nametag
[13:02] <waltman> I confess I don't have the slightest idea who John Hall is.
[13:02] <waltman> oh, Mad Dog?
[13:03] <JonathanD> Drexel grad, also known as yes that.
[13:03] <JonathanD> he's going to give us a past present and future history of open source.
[13:03] <JonathanD> with some philly tie ins, I think.
[13:03] <pvl1> I like
[13:04]  * waltman notes that his first name is "Jon", not "John"
[13:04] <pvl1> I wish I had a linux job
[13:04] <JonathanD> waltman: ah, you'd think I'd get that right.
[13:04] <waltman> indeed
[13:04] <JonathanD> Of all people
[13:04] <JonathanD> I think I don't because everyone is John.
[13:04] <waltman> JonathanD: also juju is going to be talking about juju at plug!
[13:04] <waltman> er, lazypower
[13:05] <waltman> breakfast &
[13:05] <JonathanD> what is juju?
[13:05] <JonathanD> and which plug?
[13:05] <JonathanD> waltman: are you coming tomorrow?
[13:05] <JonathanD> I hear someone scraping ice :(
[13:05] <JonathanD> that means I'll have to as well :(
[13:05] <waltman> I hope to, but I'll be late. I'll be in my boss's class until 6:30.
[13:06] <JonathanD> I should make sure I'm going I suppose.
[13:09] <lazypower> waltman, Who is juju? Do you have a team member speaking about it?
[13:13] <lazypower> JonathanD, Juju is the best thing to land since sliced bread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yoIdgdqzLk
[13:15] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[14:47] <JonathanD> I think my graphical issues are related to the dual GPU setup on this machine.
[14:59] <InHisName1> any Pidgin users here ?   I want to increase the depth of how old things get before they fall off the retention. #cisco is less than 24 hours deep.  Want at least 36 - 48, if I can change it.
[15:03] <lazypower> Since there is no configuration option, its probably hard coded in the plugin.
[15:14] <InHisName1> lazypower:  meaning it's not changeable ?
[15:16] <lazypower> Doesn't appear to be, no
[15:17] <lazypower> This is why i use a bouncer like ZNC with a history plugin. Regardless of my connection statistics I get replays from the rooms i'm in with a lifetime retention. Not an ideal solution for your question but a viable alternative.
[15:18] <ChinnoDog> I tried ZNC for awhile but decided it was too complicated for everyday use.
[15:18] <ChinnoDog> I had it figured out but it was too much work.
[15:18] <lazypower> There's a few alternatives like smuxi, and rygel
[15:19] <lazypower> sorry, not rygel - quassel
[15:20] <lazypower> the big draw to quassel is the baked in bouncer, and an android client.
[15:21] <ChinnoDog> I use weechat. There is also an Android client for it and I don't have to deal with BNC commands.
[15:26] <JonathanD> I'm very close to just reinstalling :/
[15:34] <lazypower> JonathanD, still unable to figure out the gfx issues?
[15:42] <JonathanD> lazypower: yes, I made it much worse :P
[15:43] <lazypower> Oh man, i love that feeling </sarcasm>
[15:44] <JonathanD> Now I boot to a blinking black curosor and cant even ctrl alt F1
[15:45] <lazypower> boot into single user mode
[15:45] <JonathanD> yeah
[15:45] <JonathanD> still not sure how to fix, once I do
[15:45] <lazypower> remove your X11 config and re-run nvidia-xconfig
[15:45] <lazypower> pray it gens a good configuration
[15:48] <pvl1> weechat
[15:49] <pvl1> I'm pretty good with x11 n stuffs
[15:49] <pvl1> what's the issue JonathanD
[16:04] <waltman> pvl1: you should go to plug north tomorrow night and fix JonathanD's config before the main talk.
[16:10] <pvl1> what time
[16:11] <pvl1> and north is in montco right
[16:11] <waltman> 7, but you'll want to get there earlier in case you run into any problems with JonathanD's machine :)
[16:12] <waltman> http://www.phillylinux.org/locations/coredial.html
[16:20] <pvl1> isn't bluebell south west
[16:24] <waltman> It's southwest of Doylestown.
[16:26] <pvl1> I might be able to get a ride
[16:29] <waltman> It's near the Plymouth Meeting mall, if you know where that is.
[16:29] <JonathanD> yay I have a gui!
[16:29] <waltman> pvl1: never mind, he got it working :(
[16:29] <JonathanD> not really
[16:29] <JonathanD> I'm using the intel card instead of the nvidia
[16:29] <waltman> :(
[16:29] <JonathanD> so I can function.
[16:29] <waltman> what kind of computer?
[16:30] <JonathanD> also I learned how to fix it and get into a recoverable state if I break it again.
[16:30] <pvl1> JonathanD I've had to do the same several times
[16:30] <JonathanD> waltman: thinkpad with dual cards, intel and nvidia
[16:30] <pvl1> pretty pissed neither ati nor nvidia want to support waylanf
[16:31] <JonathanD> the dual card thing has never worked well on ubuntu
[16:31] <waltman> JonathanD: I thought you were all about macbooks these days!
[16:31] <JonathanD> waltman: I use my macbook every day.
[16:31] <JonathanD> It shows me pretty graphs while I work on my thinkpad
[16:37] <KyleYankan> a dashing console?
[16:38] <ChinnoDog> KyleYankan: What is the "radar ping" noise I keep hearing?
[16:38] <JonathanD> KyleYankan: lol no
[16:38] <JonathanD> zenoss stuff.
[16:39] <KyleYankan> ChinnoDog: On a repeater? not sure. Most repeaters do a pingy-type of nosie when someone transmits to mark the end of it. Like a roger beep.
[16:39] <ChinnoDog> But that is all I hear. Speaker comes on, there is a ping noise, then it goes off. No voice.
[16:39] <JonathanD> I need a utility to read cad files.
[16:40] <KyleYankan> Might be someone kerchunking.
[16:40] <KyleYankan> Kerchunking is when someone keys up a radio, and doesn't say anything.
[16:40] <ChinnoDog> Now I hear a transmission with lots of pings and some strange noise.
[16:41] <JonathanD> ariens
[16:41] <ChinnoDog> Now there is much garbage on the channel
[16:44] <ChinnoDog> I turned up squelch setting. Seems better now.
[16:48] <MutantTurkey> pvl1: give it time
[16:48] <MutantTurkey> wayland is still too new to have it worth investing in
[16:48] <MutantTurkey> no corporate partners will be using it for years
[16:48] <MutantTurkey> I don't even like wayland. Why couldn't they have just revised the x11 protocol? X12?
[16:49] <KyleYankan> I'm looking forward to the wayland yutani merger.
[16:50] <KyleYankan> Weyland-Yutani: Building a better working world.
[17:09] <ChinnoDog> KyleYankan: jedijf: I am in the FCC database. I am KK4WIZ!
[17:10] <KyleYankan> Nice. Sweet call.
[17:10] <ChinnoDog> It is. I lucked out.
[17:11] <lazypower> waltman: is your guest speaker Marco Ceppi?
[17:11] <waltman> *my*?
[17:12] <lazypower> *the*
[17:12] <waltman> for...?
[17:12] <lazypower> Well this morning it was asked if special lodging for the parrot would be required
[17:12] <waltman> no, I was joking that it might be rms.
[17:13] <lazypower> Oh
[17:13] <lazypower> Yeah... *that* guy...
[17:13]  * lazypower chuckles softly to himself
[17:13] <waltman> maddog seems like he'd be a rather more pleasant house guest.
[17:13] <waltman> in fact, he's friends with rms and has some very funny stories about him :)
[17:15] <waltman> maddog as the persona of a kindly old wizard from the elder times.
[17:15] <waltman> s/as/has/
[17:37] <JonathanD> My communications thus far have been pleasant
[17:39] <KyleYankan> JonathanD: if we house maddog, will I be required to shield the light of anur?
[17:41] <JonathanD> yes.
[17:43] <waltman> Is that what you're calling the bear light these days?
[17:43] <JonathanD> yes.
[17:44] <KyleYankan> .wiki Secret Fire
[17:44] <KyleYankan> Queenbee? :-( i forgot
[17:45] <waltman> the interesting thing about maddog is that he's a geek, but he also was a VP at DEC for a number of years so he has people skills too.
[17:45] <JonathanD> I'm waiting for waltman to offer his living room...
[17:45] <JonathanD> :P
[17:45] <JonathanD> venue secured with all our requirements, I have a contact, we have the deposit, all ahead full
[17:46] <waltman> w00t
[17:46] <JonathanD> *contract
[17:47] <KyleYankan> Oh... We're gonna do fosscon again?  Ok....
[17:47] <KyleYankan> :-P
[17:47] <JonathanD> lemons
[18:05] <KyleYankan> JonathanD: make me a shirt that says "Life"
[18:05] <KyleYankan> and I'll hand out lemons at Fosscon
[18:05] <JonathanD> Ok.
[18:07] <ChinnoDog> haha
[21:13] <JonathanD> So I have dual monitor (on intel) but compiz doesn't work.