| tenc | Good morning #ubuntu. :) | 12:55 |
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| wrst | morning tenc, how are you doing? | 12:58 |
| tenc | Doing great. How about you wrst? | 13:26 |
| wrst | yep doing well for a monday morning :) | 13:27 |
| tenc | ipv6 addresses are much hard to copy by sight... | 14:36 |
| tenc | Other things I've observed this morning: in the set {logout, quit, exit} the correct command will always be the last one I issue. | 14:42 |
| wrst | ha ha | 14:54 |
| wrst | ipv6 addresses give me a headache :) | 14:54 |
| netritious_ | good morning | 15:31 |
| wrst | howdy netritious_ | 15:31 |
| === netritious_ is now known as netritious | ||
| netritious | sorry I missed you last week wrst...having probs out of my ancient ups' | 15:32 |
| wrst | ha ha netritious | 15:32 |
| wrst | that does not sound like fun | 15:32 |
| wrst | batteries? | 15:32 |
| netritious | yep..scored two off of amazon for $30+free shipping | 15:33 |
| wrst | nice especially on the free shipping, them there batteries be heavy | 15:33 |
| netritious | yessir | 15:33 |
| netritious | atm trying to find just the right mini itx board. the project requires 4+ RJ45 but for under $225 isn't easy lol...unless you want jetway. | 15:36 |
| wrst | just the name, jetway, does not instill confidence | 15:36 |
| netritious | board+cpu+ram+case+psu+4 or more RJ45 | 15:36 |
| wrst | can we ask what the projuce is? or will you have to kill us? | 15:37 |
| wrst | if you would have to kill us I would rather not know | 15:37 |
| netritious | lol nothing special...moving a firewall install from "in beta forever" to dedicated machine | 15:38 |
| wrst | nice | 15:38 |
| netritious | zotac has some nice borads with wifi built-in, but then it has a geforce GT 5xx soemthing or the other...not needed for a firewall, at least not mine heh | 15:39 |
| wrst | you building your own as far as software, or doing something pfsensish? | 15:40 |
| netritious | going to install pfsense 9.1 that uses the new PBI packaging | 15:41 |
| wrst | nice, I have no need whatsover for any of that but would love to give it a try :) | 15:43 |
| netritious | 9.0-RELEASE JustWorks™ | 15:43 |
| netritious | sure you do wrst | 15:44 |
| netritious | you just don't know it lol | 15:44 |
| wrst | I'm sure I could think of something | 15:44 |
| netritious | well, dansguardian for one | 15:44 |
| wrst | I mean do I really need a FreeNAS system in my house | 15:44 |
| netritious | great for anyone that has kids | 15:44 |
| wrst | true netritious, right now I'm letting opendns filter, which is not perfect, but dans guardian without help is such a pain to even attempt for a mortal like me to set up | 15:45 |
| netritious | captive portal for controlling time spent on teh network | 15:45 |
| netritious | yeah wrst, it's that time thing | 15:45 |
| wrst | that's pretty cool | 15:45 |
| netritious | some of us could do it /if we had the time/ | 15:45 |
| wrst | yes exactly | 15:46 |
| netritious | also on captive portal control bandwidth rates. can set global and get granular as well. | 15:46 |
| netritious | *also with captive portal you can | 15:47 |
| wrst | hmm could keep the HD youtubes from killing my connection and sentence them to 480P | 15:47 |
| wrst | :) | 15:47 |
| netritious | yep. also there is QoS control that works by applying bandwidth filters dynamically based on type of traffic. (pfsense has a wizard thank God.) | 15:48 |
| wrst | ha ha yes I do a very limited QoS on my dd-wrt router, to keep uploads from killing my connection but that's it | 15:49 |
| netritious | I like x86 because it's almost completely open. I can add/change/remove most hardware components at will on x86 platform, whereas with ARM/RISC based systems the hardware is much more "fixed" and not designed for much if any after market modifications. | 15:56 |
| netritious | just talking about hardware hear, not software | 15:56 |
| netritious | *here | 15:56 |
| wrst | agreed | 15:57 |
| wrst | its much much easier | 15:57 |
| wrst | I saw that intel had an SD card sized x86 system | 15:57 |
| wrst | would love to see x86 chips with the power benefits of arm | 15:58 |
| netritious | or x86 completely ported to ARM...that would work...mostly lol | 15:58 |
| netritious | software I mean | 15:59 |
| wrst | ahh yes that would work also | 15:59 |
| twayneprice | We have outgrown our SAN at work that we use for VMWare and I'm looking to add some NFS storage. What OS would you guys recommend? I need two boxes that will mirror each other in case of failure. I may have to get something that I can get paid support on in order to appease the higher-ups. :) | 16:32 |
| wrst | to say I'm no expert is a great understatement but have heard good things about ixsystems | 16:40 |
| twayneprice | ah. We already have the hardware. | 16:41 |
| wrst | ahh gotcha | 16:42 |
| twayneprice | I used redhat a long time ago. I think suse is used in the enterprise too. | 16:43 |
| twayneprice | I've read about drbd and glusterfs. Anyone have any experience with either of those? | 16:45 |
| netritious | can't say about gluster...I've read quite a bit, but nothing deployed. | 17:08 |
| netritious | drbd, well get ready for some fun heh | 17:08 |
| twayneprice | That sounds ominous. :) | 17:09 |
| netritious | I had problems with a heartbeat+drbd setup, but in the end I think it was heartbeat filling an 10GB / with 4GB logs | 17:10 |
| netritious | anyway, I would mount the drbd block as /var/vm and store vmware images there | 17:11 |
| netritious | when it worked it worked well, but it was a stupid setup rife with opprotunities for something to fail | 17:12 |
| twayneprice | That in a nice thing about our HP SAN. It just works. But $45k for 6TB of usable space, I would prefer not to order another one. :) | 17:13 |
| netritious | I've seen some generic sata disk storage units that would connect to a PC via esata, the PC being the SAN host. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $300 to a few $1,000 | 17:16 |
| netritious | I would just use some linux distro you like, create some raid devices via mdadm, and export NFS | 17:17 |
| twayneprice | We have a couple of HP server with 8 removable HD each. | 17:18 |
| twayneprice | mdadm is software raid, right? | 17:19 |
| netritious | mdadm is software raid but it works really really well. I've relied on it now for a few years and store around 2+ terabytes with plenty of room to grow | 17:23 |
| netritious | RAID1+hot spares+hot swap 3.5" sata drive bays | 17:23 |
| twayneprice | would you use drbd again? | 17:24 |
| netritious | not unless someone paid me to lol | 17:24 |
| netritious | you might want to check out corosync(?) | 17:26 |
| netritious | spelling might be wrong | 17:26 |
| twayneprice | ceph maybe? | 17:27 |
| netritious | nope, I meant corosync http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/corosync | 17:28 |
| twayneprice | gotcha. | 17:30 |
| netritious | there's a better wikipedia page | 17:30 |
| netritious | if you decide to get into clustering though I would recommendl reading the drbd manual section on terminology since you will encounter a whole new set of errors that you really wouldn't see coming without maybe a cluster engineering degree...if one of those exist | 17:32 |
| netritious | even if you don't use drbd | 17:32 |
| twayneprice | That's probably a good idea. | 17:34 |
| average_guy | Have you looked at Openfiler twayneprice | 19:27 |
| average_guy | mucho reccamendo | 19:28 |
| twayneprice | average_guy: yea, I've looked at it and FreeNas. Have you had it syncing with 2 or more machines? | 20:06 |
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