[09:26] <codd> bonjour
[09:27] <cfhowlett> codd, greetings
[09:28] <cub> codd, goddag
[09:29] <codd> hi
[09:29] <codd>  i have a pb please
[09:29] <codd> i can't log with my personnal account on my ubuntus system
[09:29] <cfhowlett> codd, error messages?
[09:30] <codd> but when i am on command line with another user it is possible
[09:30] <codd> no error
[09:30] <codd> no error on the loging page
[09:31] <cub> sounds like you have another keyboard layout on the login page?
[09:33] <codd> Jan 11 06:42:27 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "sonfack"
[09:34] <codd> message from the /var/log/auth.log
[09:35] <codd> Jan 11 06:43:02 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "sonfack"
[09:35] <codd> Jan 11 06:43:06 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user lightdm
[09:35] <codd> i have check the keyboard and i is good
[09:35] <codd> no pb on keyboard
[09:36] <codd> message from the auth.log file : Jan 11 06:43:02 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "sonfack"
[09:36] <codd> Jan 11 06:43:06 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user lightdm
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:43:07 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "sonfack"
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:43:46 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "sonfack"
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:44:01 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user lightdm
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:44:01 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session opened for user sonfack by (uid=0)
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:44:01 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_ck_connector(lightdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:44:01 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session opened for user lightdm by (uid=0)
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:44:01 sonfack-HP-625 lightdm: pam_ck_connector(lightdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0
[09:37] <codd> Jan 11 06:44:01 sonfack-HP-625 dbus[1034]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.96" (uid=104 pid=4389 comm="/usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.13" (uid=0 pid=1630 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !paste|codd,
[09:39] <codd> and i have many users accound on the machine but only the account having the user name "sonfack" wich is diterbing
[09:39] <codd> ok
[17:32] <seb_kuzminsky> what's the apt source line for the ubuntu studio deb archive?
[17:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd like to add it to my sources.list on my vanilla ubuntu precise machine, to fetch the realtime kernel
[18:23] <beefsalad> its not eufi friendly seb_kuzminsky
[18:23] <beefsalad> just an fyi
[19:00] <seb_kuzminsky> beefsalad: eufi?
[19:11] <beefsalad> uefi sorry
[19:43] <seb_kuzminsky> my computer does not boot with uefi
[19:43] <seb_kuzminsky> let me ask my question another way...  where can i download the ubuntu studio realtime kernel?
[21:32] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: its in the main ubuntu repositories.. but, its not a "realtime kernel"
[21:32] <holstein> !info linux-lowlatency
[21:33] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: i would try the generic, however, and see if it suits your needs.. we dont have a lowlatency kernel with uefi AFAIK
[21:34] <holstein> as you can see here https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel even upstream is not creating an RT kernel.. though, you are always welcome to build and run whatever kernel you like.. or use a PPA
[21:36] <seb_kuzminsky> holstein: thank you for that information
[21:36] <seb_kuzminsky> i was following the info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[21:36] <seb_kuzminsky> which claims there's an -rt kernel flavor available, but i guess it's outdated (i know how hard it is to keep wikis up to date...)
[21:37] <seb_kuzminsky> debian *is* shipping an rtpreempt kernel: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-rt-amd64
[21:37] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: there are only 2 reason to need low latency.. software synths and realtime effects
[21:37] <holstein> just becuase you are using those dont mean you *need* a realtime kernel
[21:37] <seb_kuzminsky> heh, i'm from #linuxcnc (www.linuxcnc.org), we use a realtime kernel to drive multi-ton, multi-horsepower metalworking machines ;-)
[21:38] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: you dont need to
[21:38] <seb_kuzminsky> i respectfully disagree
[21:38] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: its literaly what its made, and labled, and designed for
[21:38] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: i mean, im sure you can tweak it, but you can do that do a stock kernel
[21:39] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: you should try a generic kernel that support uefi and get a system booting, and do some tests, and see what you need
[21:39] <seb_kuzminsky> for years now we've used rtai, and shipped our own kernel packages, we're very excited to use more standard realtime kernels that are more widely used
[21:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i know exactly what we need: scheduling latency in the single-digit microsecond range
[21:39] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: you can use whatever kernel you like in ubuntu. we dont, and wont have any more realtime kernels
[21:40] <seb_kuzminsky> this is to clock out step signals to stepper motors, etc
[21:40] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: if you want to add it, add it.. the argument we are nearly having is irrelevant
[21:40] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: we will not have a realtime kernel in the repos
[21:40] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, well, thanks for your help
[21:40] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: you can add one, and are welcome and encouraged to
[21:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i wasn't asking you to do any work, i was only asking if the kernel that's advertised on that wiki page was available in a deb archive somewhere
[21:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i hear you that it's not, and that's no problem
[21:41] <holstein> seb_kuzminsky: ppa's are where i would look.. the kxstudio ppa's
[21:41] <seb_kuzminsky> ah!  ok, i'll check that one out, thanks :-)
[21:41] <holstein> there are also liquorix..
[22:10] <beefsalad> seb_kuzminsky: heavy-freaking-metal!
[22:10] <beefsalad> can I borrow your CNC?
[22:11] <seb_kuzminsky> heh, sure, you in Colorado, USA?  come on by and we'll build some stuff!  :-)
[22:11] <beefsalad> no, but I'd make a trip for it!
[22:11] <beefsalad> uber-cheap AR-15 lowers have always been appealing ;)
[22:12] <seb_kuzminsky> we have a big get-together once per year, usually in Wichita, Kansas, anyone's welcome
[22:12] <beefsalad> and a billion other projects I've dreamed about over the years
[22:12] <beefsalad> awesome!  I have a buddy in Wichita
[22:12] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, and to keep this conversation on-topic, one of our sillier hackers wrote a gcode program that moves stepper motors at specific speeds to generate sounds, to play the song "daisy"
[22:13] <beefsalad> lol
[22:13] <seb_kuzminsky> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0re79zEX5A
[22:14] <beefsalad> no speakers on this machine yet
[22:15] <seb_kuzminsky> tbh you're not missing much ;-)
[22:15] <seb_kuzminsky> it's like that old video of a floppy drive playing the imperial march
[22:17] <seb_kuzminsky> though the definitive example of the genre is surely the Old Computer Remix of the House of the Rising Sun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68qZ8JvBds
[22:17] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i'll stop spamming your channel now, by folks!  come see us in #linuxcnc if this kind of stuff interest you
[22:20] <beefsalad> hehe yeah
[22:20] <beefsalad> floppy drives, scanners, printers, and now a CNC machine