[03:58] <nzcloud> Howdy...I have been given 20 X HP thin clinets 5300 and have heard that Edubuntu would be the way to go...any vids or posts on how to install our school would be really appriciate it. thanks in advance
[06:28] <highvoltage> nz<tab>
[09:20] <[omicron]> hi guys! I'm having some problems with edubuntu running in LTSP environment when i'm trying to automount some USB devices like a handycam (masstorage) or a HDD... I can see in syslog how the system detects the device (sdxy) but in the client (desktop) I can't see the device "mounted", but if I connect a USB pendrive it works fine.
[09:20] <[omicron]> could somebody show me the way please? :)
[10:35] <cjaxon> Ok, so my gf is a teacher. With a lot of enthusiasm I convinced her to let me take her old,unused pc with WinXP and install edubuntu for use in her classroom.
[10:35] <cjaxon> It's old, but has 1GHz processor and 1GB ram.
[10:36] <cjaxon> Sorry, make that 2GHz and 1GB.
[10:36] <cjaxon> Minimum requirements, if I'm not mistaken is 1GHz and 512MB.
[10:37] <cjaxon> I made a bootable USB with 12.04 edubuntu and showed her the "live cd" on her laptop. No problem.
[10:37] <cjaxon> When I wanted to install it on said PC last night, I ended up with egg on my face after going on about Linux this and Linux that.
[10:38] <cjaxon> It reaches the screen with options to install, preview without installing, running mem test, etc.
[10:38] <cjaxon> I selected "Install" and after a few seconds a screen with "Edubuntu" and 4 dots under it appears.
[10:39] <cjaxon> After a few minutes, a greyish screen with a mouse pointer in the middle is reached.
[10:39] <cjaxon> At this point, the screen will flash this grey screen and go black again.
[10:39] <cjaxon> This just goes on ad infinitum.
[10:39] <cjaxon> Any ideas?
[10:51] <cjaxon> Oh, trying to run without installing shows the same symptoms.
[10:54] <ogra_> most likely it is your graphics card that can not cope ...
[10:54] <ogra_> try something more lightweight like xubuntu or lubuntu and see if they work instead
[10:55] <ogra_> (ubuntu, edubuntu and ubuntu-gnome all require fully working 3D support for the desktop)
[10:59] <highvoltage> hey cjaxon. do you know which display chip it has?
[11:00] <cjaxon> hmmm... I'll have to check. Just popping out quickly. BRB
[11:34] <cjaxon> Would I then, theoretically, be able to use xubuntu or lubuntu and get the edubuntu add-ons?
[11:36] <cjaxon> Otherwise it defeats the purpose of the whole educational thing... Unless I can get an old graphics card somewhere. I have a feeling it might have an AGP slot.
[11:40] <highvoltage> cjaxon: ah, that's a pity. some of the real old graphics cards just aren't well supported anymore
[11:41] <highvoltage> cjaxon: worth checking if it has an onboard display adaptor that might have better graphics support on linux
[11:41] <cjaxon> I know for a fact it is onboard graphics.
[11:41] <cjaxon> Suspected the graphics and had a look at the back. Only one VGA connector
[12:28] <cjaxon> Will a GEFORCE FX 5200 be supported?
[12:54] <highvoltage> seems like nvidia removed a lot of driver support for their card
[12:54] <highvoltage> *cards
[12:54] <highvoltage> then re-added it again
[12:55] <highvoltage> the first answer on http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise suggests that installing the proprietary nvidia driver will get it working
[12:55] <cjaxon> Probably due to an angry mob with pitchforks and torches.
[12:55] <cjaxon> Things is, I don't get as far as even starting the installation.
[12:56] <cjaxon> The installation freezes at the stage directly after selecting "Install"
[13:01] <ogra_> cjaxon, didnt you say the live session worked ?
[13:02] <ogra_> there is an install icon on the live desktop too
[13:05] <cjaxon> No, either option has the same problem.
[13:05] <ogra_> ?
[13:05] <ogra_> the GUIinstaller simply starts in a window on the live desktop
[13:05] <cjaxon> Do you mean from Windows?
[13:05] <ogra_> no
 I made a bootable USB with 12.04 edubuntu and showed her the "live cd" on her laptop. No problem.
[13:06] <cjaxon> Oh. I understand the confusion. I just showed it to her on her laptop before attempting to install it on the old PC.
[13:06] <ogra_> in that mode there is an "install" icon ... if you click it, it will start the installed as an app window
[13:06] <ogra_> ah, other device
[13:06] <ogra_> ok
[13:06] <cjaxon> But on the old PC, I restart the PC and it boots from USB
[13:07] <cjaxon> selecting either option from the boot time menu has the same result
[13:07] <ogra_> right, thats the graphics driver ...
[13:08] <cjaxon> Will adding a AGP card fix the problem?
[13:08] <ogra_> if it has a supported chipset it will, yes
[13:08] <cjaxon> NVidia GeForce FX 5200
[13:09] <cjaxon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[13:09] <cjaxon> On that page, the 5200 is listed as being auto-detected and has 2D and 2D.
[13:09] <cjaxon> Just needs nvidia-glx, but I assume this I can install post OS installation?
[13:09] <ogra_> so try it then
[13:10] <cjaxon> There's a local PC shop that has one! Thing must have an inch of dust on it, but I can get it for cheap, brand new.
[13:10] <cjaxon> So, small gamble, but such is life.
[13:11] <ogra_> ask if you can give it back, try it ... return it if it does not work
[13:13] <cjaxon> Maybe he has some DDR RAM for me also. :P
[13:13] <cjaxon> Thanks guys, I'll give it a try and report back.