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Der_willyip configuration was unavailable00:01
Der_willyis this a permission issue?00:01
Der_willymhm00:05
pnunnCan you run ipconfig in a terminal Der_willy00:08
Der_willysorry, I just try a suse live now, come back later00:09
Der_willywith suse i have the same problem00:16
pnunnThen I'd guess there is a problem with your hardware.00:24
Der_willyyes that why i just tested suse parallel to kubuntu00:25
Der_willythe concection is ther if the cable is conncted but i get no ip adress from dhcp00:26
Der_willyit works with wlan00:27
Der_willyi think it is a problem with the networkcard00:31
Der_willyall other devices connected wit ha cable are connctd00:31
Der_willytv, nas, ...00:31
Der_willyany expereince with a netlink bcms 7780?00:35
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jarkko_guys05:13
jarkko_what driver i need to use on xorg to use 7870 ati on it05:13
jarkko_radeon or radeonhd05:13
valorie!radeon05:25
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto05:25
valoriejarkko_: ^^^05:25
jarkko_i have kubuntu 13.10, i removed closed source drivers and kde doesnt boot, it goes to blank display but if i start in recovery mode, it goes to desktop05:39
valorieis there a reason you removed those drivers?05:40
jarkko_want to try open source05:41
valoriesure, but why remove until you are sure that the open source drivers are working for you?05:41
jarkko_http://pastebin.com/z8hyEpdi05:42
valoriedid the radeon link I posted earlier help at all?05:43
valorieit's been a long time since I had problems with drivers, so I remember little05:43
jarkko_well i thought they would, i am sure the system goes back to normal if i install the deb files of closed source (which i have)05:43
valorieok05:43
valorieI have used jockey-kde, but i think that is either going or gone05:44
valorie!info jockey-kde05:44
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu15 (saucy), package size 9 kB, installed size 112 kB05:44
jarkko_i tried the program ( i think its the same) that comes with kde, but it only showed closed source options05:44
jarkko_i had problems installing kubuntu 13.10 and manjaro i think the support for 7870 isnt that good05:45
valoriewell, the open source stuff has to be installed before it will show in jockey05:46
valorieas I recall05:46
jarkko_http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/05:48
jarkko_the part "where to get drivers"05:48
jarkko_what does that mean?05:49
jarkko_the same driver comes from all those places?05:49
valorieso Nouveau didn't work for you?05:50
valoriejarkko_: I have no idea05:50
jarkko_what's that05:50
valoriethe free driver05:50
valoriehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:51
jarkko_i have ati05:51
valoriebest to use the official ubuntu docs if possible05:51
valorieoh sorry05:51
valoriehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:51
valorieI have used frglx before, but for the most part the open stuff works for me05:52
valoriegosh, I don't even remember what this laptop has05:53
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.12.0 on Ubuntu 13.10, Saucy Salamander powered by Linux 3.11.0-15-generic, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II P960 Quad-Core Processor at 800-1800/1800 MHz, RAM: 5469/5713 MB, Storage: 453/528 GB, 215 procs, 31.71h up05:53
valoriehmmm, that doesn't really say05:53
jarkko_there are 2 open source drivers that xorg supports are they both developed these days?05:54
valorie01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250] [1002:9712] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])05:54
valorie        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-05:54
valorie02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Robson CE [Radeon HD 6370M/7370M] [1002:68e4]05:54
valorieis what I have05:55
FloodBotK1valorie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:55
valoriejarkko_: dunno05:55
jarkko_this feels so complicated, 2 open source drivers, mesa, some glamour thing05:56
valoriemost people just use what's provided05:57
valorieback in the day, there was a lot more messing about, but these days, it's usually really easy05:58
soeegood morning07:07
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apb1963How can I update qt please?09:36
apb1963The crash happens deep in the Qt library. I suggest to update Qt to version09:36
apb19634.8.5. While you are using newest KDE 4.12, you are still using a quite old Qt09:36
apb19634.8.2.09:36
toxicinside#nitdgp09:57
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BluesKajhowdy all11:09
mammuthsalut j'ai installé un ftp et de la page de mon site on peut prendre des dossiers mais pas en deposé  , les visiteurs sont obligé de passé par filezilla comment faire ?13:30
Pici!fr13:30
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:30
mammuthok merci13:31
ithello kubuntu lovers13:35
b33zuSo I just installed kubuntu. Is there anything cool to install with kubuntu?14:08
lordievaderb33zu: What are you looking for?14:09
* monkeyjuice thinks that kubuntu is cool :)14:09
b33zuWell it's loaded with a ton of features that is cool, but right now I guess I'm really looking for a way to customize the look and feel.14:11
monkeyjuicehttp://kde-look.org/   fun to look at this stuff14:12
lordievaderb33zu: Ah, I don't know many applications in that category.14:12
b33zuSounds good thanks.14:13
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tsimpson!info plasma-desktopthemes-artwork14:14
ubottuplasma-desktopthemes-artwork (source: kdeartwork): desktop themes for KDE Plasma Workspaces. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.2-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 1951 kB, installed size 2433 kB14:14
tsimpsonalso that ^14:14
tsimpsonthere's also System Settings -> Application Appearance, and System Settings -> Workspace Appearance14:15
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der_willyhow does kubuntu log for computer in the network?15:40
der_willyi can access my nas via ftp, but do not see it in the computer15:41
Der_Willyooops, back15:44
alvinLogs can be found in /var/log15:46
geniiDer_Willy: The usual cause of another computer on the network not being found automatically is missing or incorrect broadcast address15:57
Der_Willyi use dhcp for all devices, i have no host15:58
Der_Willyi can ping all devices in my network16:11
lordievaderDer_Willy: Could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig"?16:11
Der_Willyhi lordievader, i am conected via lan now ....16:17
Der_Willymy fault, i uses the wrong connect at my accesspoint16:17
Der_Willyhttp://pastebin.kde.org/p07us0bei16:19
Der_Willyi can ping everydevice16:19
Der_Willyi can connect to my nas fia ftp16:20
Der_Willybut i do net see it in the network as a computer16:20
lordievaderBroadcast address seems to be in order. genii other sugestions?16:24
geniiDer_Willy: Which computers are in what configuration in this scenario? eg: What OS is on the NAS and what OS is on the clients16:29
Der_Willynas is from bufallo, i assume linux16:30
Der_Willylaptop1 is kubuntu, laptop 2 is vista,16:30
Der_Willytv ? linux?16:30
geniiDer_Willy: Does the Vista machine see it?16:31
Der_Willyno16:31
Der_Willyand i cannot not the the other laptop16:31
geniiDer_Willy: Since the Windows machine also cannot see it, this indicates to me the configuration problem is not with the clients but with the NAS itself16:33
Der_Willyall are in the same ip range16:33
geniiDer_Willy: What is the model of the Buffalo?16:35
Der_Willythe nas was visible with win7, but this is now my kubunte computer16:35
geniiDer_Willy: So Win7 saw it but Vista doesn't?16:37
Der_Willyyes16:37
* genii makes more coffee and waits for the model information so he can look it up16:38
Der_Willyi created a connected folder with the add network folder16:39
Der_Willythis works ...16:39
Der_Willythis is ok, but i do not understand why the nas does not appear a omputer or media server, this works yesterday16:41
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MangaKaDenzaI've got an odd question18:03
MangaKaDenzacan a distro not officially based on ubuntu use ubuntu repositories?18:03
MangaKaDenzaprovided it has an appropriate spoofed lsb-release file in /etc ?18:03
lordievaderMangaKaDenza: Any distro can use the Ubu repos. They might not be compatible but that is something else.18:04
MangaKaDenzaty18:04
BluesKajbacktrack ?18:06
lordievaderBluesKaj: It's called Kali Linux these days ;)18:06
BluesKajlots of ppl still ask about it tho18:08
geniiWe need a factoid called MangaKaDenza which says "Expect Breakage!"18:09
lordievader!learn MangaKaDenza "Expect Breakage!"18:10
ubottulordievader: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:10
geniilordievader: Hehe18:10
lordievaderHmm, too bad genii18:10
MangaKaDenzaSurprisingly, I've had much less breakage nowadays18:10
MangaKaDenzaI think my last install was actually a month ago18:10
MangaKaDenzastill going strong18:10
geniiMangaKaDenza: It seems you're always trying to do something weird with your system :)18:10
MangaKaDenzawell not my sys this time18:11
stephanhey.18:14
stephancan i use ppas from precise in satty?18:14
MangaKaDenzaEckspect Borkage18:15
stephanMangaKaDenza: ?18:15
Jackylmfao18:15
MangaKaDenzastephan: expect breakage™18:17
stephani see. i will need to make a .deb for precise18:18
stephanerm, for satty.18:18
MangaKaDenzaI mean, unless it has few dependancies... it might cause breakage18:18
MangaKaDenzalike a simple standalone package I guess shouldn't explode your comp18:18
MangaKaDenzaits the huge things that break stuff18:18
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lordievaderstephan: Do you mean with satty Saucy?18:20
stephanyes18:21
lordievaderstephan: Then you probably don't want to add Precise ppas to your Saucy install. But like MangaKaDenza says in some cases it is possible...18:22
MangaKaDenzayou can always modify /etc/apt/sources.list18:23
* MangaKaDenza hides18:23
MangaKaDenzasudo nano18:23
geniistephan: Basically you'd want to download the source for the package, then follow instructions somewhat like here: https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingAPackage18:24
genii( to build it for your current dist from the source of a previous one )18:25
MangaKaDenzasay, another question18:29
MangaKaDenzais it possible to use Ubiquity for a non-ubu distro?18:29
geniiMangaKaDenza: It uses Debian specific things inside, so it would only work for deb-based distributions.18:33
apb1963How can I update to Qt 4.8.5 please?18:34
apb1963kde 4.12, kubuntu 12.04.318:35
MangaKaDenzaapb1963: huh... I thought they released Qt5 already... which iirc is backcompat18:36
apb1963no idea18:36
apb1963all I know is I have 4.8.2 and it's crashing18:36
apb1963or... causing crashes18:36
apb1963it's buggy18:37
apb1963and I don't know how to update it18:37
apb1963I run apt-get update every 20 minutes... it doesn't help18:38
MangaKaDenzaapb1963: it should be apt-get upgrade qt418:38
MangaKaDenzaor something18:38
apb1963or.... something.18:38
apb1963ok, I'll try that18:38
lordievaderQt5 isn't out yet, just alpha releases.18:39
apb1963he following packages will be upgraded:18:39
apb1963  flashplugin-installer language-pack-en language-pack-en-base18:39
apb1963Hmm18:40
MangaKaDenzalordievader: strange, I'm already using Qt518:40
MangaKaDenzaits already at 5.2.018:40
MangaKaDenzaapb1963: hmm, try apt-get install qtchooser18:41
MangaKaDenzaand apt-get install qt5-default18:41
lordievaderHmm, maybe I'm confused with KDE5...18:41
MangaKaDenzalordievader: ja18:41
MangaKaDenzaKDE 5 is not out yet officially18:42
MangaKaDenzastill KDE418:42
apb1963Unable to locate package qtchooser18:42
MangaKaDenzaer...18:42
MangaKaDenzaKDE SC 418:42
FloodBotK1MangaKaDenza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:42
MangaKaDenzaapb1963: huh, it's in my packages... maybe it isn't avail for your version :T18:42
apb1963my version of... ?18:43
MangaKaDenzaubu18:43
apb196312.04.318:43
MangaKaDenzayou mentioned 12.04, I'm on 13.10...18:43
apb1963hmm18:43
genii!info qtchooser18:43
ubottuqtchooser (source: qtchooser): Wrapper to select between Qt development binary versions. In component main, is extra. Version 26-3ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 18 kB, installed size 78 kB18:43
genii!info qtchooser precise18:43
ubottuPackage qtchooser does not exist in precise18:44
MangaKaDenzaoic18:44
MangaKaDenza:c18:44
lordievader!info qtchooser18:45
ubottuqtchooser (source: qtchooser): Wrapper to select between Qt development binary versions. In component main, is extra. Version 26-3ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 18 kB, installed size 78 kB18:45
lordievaderapb1963: What version of kubuntu do you have?18:45
MangaKaDenzalordievader: 12.0418:45
MangaKaDenza<3 konversation apb196318:46
lordievaderMangaKaDenza: That was directed at apb1963, see the apb1963 in front of my message ;)18:46
MangaKaDenzaI know18:46
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MangaKaDenzathey have 12.0418:46
MangaKaDenza[10:35] <apb1963> kde 4.12, kubuntu 12.04.318:46
apb1963:)18:46
MangaKaDenza:}18:46
lordievaderAh sorry...18:46
MangaKaDenzanp18:46
lordievader!info qtchooser precise18:46
ubottuPackage qtchooser does not exist in precise18:46
tsimpsonit was introduced in raring18:47
geniiIf you feel brave, can try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa   where there IS qtchooser and other things for 12.0418:47
apb1963I don't feel brave actually...I just need programs to stop crashing.18:47
genii( version  0.0.1~git20121229.g8f08405-0ubuntu1~precise1~test7  there)18:48
apb1963And I was told to update to 4.8.518:48
apb1963Qt 4.8.518:48
genii!info libqt4-core precise18:49
ubottulibqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.6 (precise), package size 6 kB, installed size 128 kB18:49
MangaKaDenzaapt-get install libqt4* ?18:50
apb1963Is that a question or a regular expression?18:51
geniiMangaKaDenza: That will only get them the 4.8.1 version, which is the latest in the Precise repositories, as the bot showed above18:51
MangaKaDenzahmm18:51
MangaKaDenzawell18:51
MangaKaDenzaspeaking completely seriously...18:52
MangaKaDenzayou could compile the latest 4.** ver from source18:52
geniiMight be in kubuntu ppa backports18:53
MangaKaDenzaactually, apb1963 http://download.qt-project.org/official_releases/qt/4.8/4.8.5/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.5.tar.gz18:53
MangaKaDenzatry that18:53
MangaKaDenzaits 4.8.518:53
apb1963remind me how I can check my current versions please?18:55
geniiapb1963: If you want to see what version of Qt you're currently using, just in Konsole something like: konsole --version18:57
genii( or any app name which uses Qt )18:58
apb1963cool.  ty18:59
apb1963I don't know if you'll find this interesting or not... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32979319:00
ubottuKDE bug 329793 in general "Krash!" [Crash,Resolved: upstream]19:00
apb1963Kind of crazy that I'd need to compile it though19:01
MangaKaDenzawell with the installer, it won't need to be compiled19:01
MangaKaDenzathat one provides precompiled ones19:01
apb1963the installer that's not a part of my version19:02
MangaKaDenza:|19:02
Whiskey`Wonkaanyone know a good way to get google earth working on 13.10 since the 32bit libs are depreciated19:02
MangaKaDenzaWhiskey`Wonka: try looking at ubuntuupdates.org19:02
MangaKaDenzathey have a ppa list for google stuffzors19:02
Whiskey`Wonkathought that was just for chrome nad such, mm. i will look19:03
Whiskey`WonkaMangaKaDenza: looks like all they have is the package to build a google earth package, that IS what is broken19:15
MangaKaDenzaoic...19:15
MangaKaDenzaidk then D:19:15
Whiskey`Wonkayea its depends on lsb-core, ia32libs (depreciated) etc cause havoc on 13.1019:16
Whiskey`Wonkai wish google would get with it and 'do no evil' and release a true damn linux app, not a hacked winders version19:16
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apb1963Whiskey`Wonka: it's strange.. shortly after your mention of google... I got a notification of an update for "The Google Browser".  I started to install it, but then I killed it as it made me a bit nervous... why doesn't it specify "Chrome" instead of "The Google Browser" ?  Is it possible someone injected something evil into a ppa?20:14
Walexapb1963: it all depends on who notified you of the update, and where it was being downloaded to. But if something can pop up messages like that your system is already compromised to a large degree.20:17
lordievaderapb1963: Ppa's can be untrusted, what ppa are we talking about here?20:18
apb1963lordievader: I don't know... I'm  not sure I've ever seen it specify20:20
lordievaderapb1963: Hmm, well you can take a look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to see if there are some untrust worthy sources in there.20:21
apb1963lordievader: only what I've added... which is a fair amount20:21
lordievaderapb1963: But do you trust each and every one of them ;)20:22
apb1963lordievader: I don't have any reason NOT to trust them.... have a look for yourself...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6752397/20:24
lordievaderapb1963: I don't want to look through all of them... anyhow if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is chrome between them?20:26
apb1963The following packages will be upgraded:20:28
apb1963  google-chrome-stable20:28
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lordievaderapb1963: Probably from your google-chrome.list source, but you can check with: apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable20:29
apb1963  Installed: 31.0.1650.63-120:30
apb1963  Candidate: 32.0.1700.77-120:30
apb1963so I guess that means it's ok20:31
lordievaderapb1963: And version 32 comes from: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ right?20:31
apb1963right20:32
lordievaderapb1963: Then it is ok ;)20:33
apb1963thank you20:33
apb1963so here's something not ok:20:33
apb1963Basic XLib functionality test failed!20:33
apb1963 You might need to modify the include and library search paths by editing20:33
apb1963 QMAKE_INCDIR_X11 and QMAKE_LIBDIR_X11 in /usr/local/src/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.5/mkspecs/linux-g++.20:33
FloodBotK1apb1963: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:33
apb1963What am I doing wrong here?  sudo apt-add-repository ppa: deb http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports20:54
claydohapb1963: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports20:58
claydohapb1963: the ppa page, such as http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports, will show the "ppa:" address form to use20:59
apb1963claydoh: ty20:59
apb1963claydoh:21:01
apb1963sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports21:01
apb1963Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/+archive/backports) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.21:01
claydohapb1963: you are still entering the address incorrectly, paste the exact line I posted above21:03
claydohsudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports21:05
* genii makes more coffee21:05
apb1963got it.  ty21:06
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apb1963so i've got the repo.  How can I get qt to update?21:19
apb1963update, upgrade, dist-upgrade... nothing works to get a later version21:20
apb1963 I should be able to get 4.8.4 but I don't know how21:23
noaXesshey all21:28
noaXessi made a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 64bit21:28
noaXessany hint.. i build a new system with this mainboard: Supermicro X9SCA (Server board), SATA-III HD 2TB and internal grafic card.. i installed ubuntu from usb stick als works fine.. but now, if i reboot the system is shuting down, instaed of rebooting..21:29
S73f4n0hi to everyone, does someone know how to install kubuntu 13.10 64bit with wubi?21:30
S73f4n0I mean, it only recognize ubuntu iso21:32
S73f4n0both if I run wubi offline with kubuntu iso in the same folder, and if I run it online it downloads ubuntu iso instead of kubuntu iso21:34
S73f4n0thanks to everyone that answers to me21:34
noaXessS73f4n0: what about making a usb stick to boot from and then install=21:38
noaXess?21:38
S73f4n0I can only use it in dual boot21:39
S73f4n0so i can't modify the partition table21:39
S73f4n0I use to install old versions with wubi, but in this case I have that trouble21:40
S73f4n0noaXess21:40
noaXessokey..21:42
noaXesshm so you want wubi to install kubuntu iso..21:42
noaXessi don't even used wubi in tha past..21:42
noaXessis ther a command line to eg. set the iso file?21:42
S73f4n0no, just run wubi into the same folder of the iso21:43
S73f4n0if I try with ubuntu iso it works, with the kubuntu one no+21:43
S73f4n0if there is internet connection it downloads the right iso, usually, but in this case it downloads the ubuntu one instead of the kubuntu iso21:44
S73f4n0also the icon is the same in both attempts21:46
S73f4n0noaXess: thanks for the help :)21:50
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Euclidis_Greetings..22:11
Euclidis_Is KDE 4.12 still using kwin as window manager?22:12
Euclidis_Wtf is happening with these 'support-channels'? Kubuntu, Ubuntu, KDE.. Looking useless.22:14
claydohapb1963: re qt version, what version Kubuntu you run?23:15
apb196312.04.323:16
claydohthere is no qt 4.8.4 in precise, not in that ppa, 4.8.2 is though23:19
apb1963i have 4.8.2... someone told me 4.8.4 was in there, though I'm actually looking for 4.8.523:20
claydohit is (.4), but for raring 13.04 in that ppa. Saucy and Trusty have it in normal repos23:24
claydohdon't think we have 4.8.5 anywhere yet, unless someone else has a ppa for it23:26

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