[00:01] <Der_willy> ip configuration was unavailable
[00:01] <Der_willy> is this a permission issue?
[00:05] <Der_willy> mhm
[00:08] <pnunn> Can you run ipconfig in a terminal Der_willy
[00:09] <Der_willy> sorry, I just try a suse live now, come back later
[00:16] <Der_willy> with suse i have the same problem
[00:24] <pnunn> Then I'd guess there is a problem with your hardware.
[00:25] <Der_willy> yes that why i just tested suse parallel to kubuntu
[00:26] <Der_willy> the concection is ther if the cable is conncted but i get no ip adress from dhcp
[00:27] <Der_willy> it works with wlan
[00:31] <Der_willy> i think it is a problem with the networkcard
[00:31] <Der_willy> all other devices connected wit ha cable are connctd
[00:31] <Der_willy> tv, nas, ...
[00:35] <Der_willy> any expereince with a netlink bcms 7780?
[05:13] <jarkko_> guys
[05:13] <jarkko_> what driver i need to use on xorg to use 7870 ati on it
[05:13] <jarkko_> radeon or radeonhd
[05:25] <valorie> !radeon
[05:25] <valorie> jarkko_: ^^^
[05:39] <jarkko_> i have kubuntu 13.10, i removed closed source drivers and kde doesnt boot, it goes to blank display but if i start in recovery mode, it goes to desktop
[05:40] <valorie> is there a reason you removed those drivers?
[05:41] <jarkko_> want to try open source
[05:41] <valorie> sure, but why remove until you are sure that the open source drivers are working for you?
[05:42] <jarkko_> http://pastebin.com/z8hyEpdi
[05:43] <valorie> did the radeon link I posted earlier help at all?
[05:43] <valorie> it's been a long time since I had problems with drivers, so I remember little
[05:43] <jarkko_> well i thought they would, i am sure the system goes back to normal if i install the deb files of closed source (which i have)
[05:43] <valorie> ok
[05:44] <valorie> I have used jockey-kde, but i think that is either going or gone
[05:44] <valorie> !info jockey-kde
[05:44] <jarkko_> i tried the program ( i think its the same) that comes with kde, but it only showed closed source options
[05:45] <jarkko_> i had problems installing kubuntu 13.10 and manjaro i think the support for 7870 isnt that good
[05:46] <valorie> well, the open source stuff has to be installed before it will show in jockey
[05:46] <valorie> as I recall
[05:48] <jarkko_> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[05:48] <jarkko_> the part "where to get drivers"
[05:49] <jarkko_> what does that mean?
[05:49] <jarkko_> the same driver comes from all those places?
[05:50] <valorie> so Nouveau didn't work for you?
[05:50] <valorie> jarkko_: I have no idea
[05:50] <jarkko_> what's that
[05:50] <valorie> the free driver
[05:51] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:51] <jarkko_> i have ati
[05:51] <valorie> best to use the official ubuntu docs if possible
[05:51] <valorie> oh sorry
[05:51] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:52] <valorie> I have used frglx before, but for the most part the open stuff works for me
[05:53] <valorie> gosh, I don't even remember what this laptop has
[05:53] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.12.0 on Ubuntu 13.10, Saucy Salamander powered by Linux 3.11.0-15-generic, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II P960 Quad-Core Processor at 800-1800/1800 MHz, RAM: 5469/5713 MB, Storage: 453/528 GB, 215 procs, 31.71h up
[05:53] <valorie> hmmm, that doesn't really say
[05:54] <jarkko_> there are 2 open source drivers that xorg supports are they both developed these days?
[05:54] <valorie> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250] [1002:9712] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[05:54] <valorie>         Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
[05:54] <valorie> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Robson CE [Radeon HD 6370M/7370M] [1002:68e4]
[05:55] <valorie> is what I have
[05:55] <FloodBotK1> valorie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:55] <valorie> jarkko_: dunno
[05:56] <jarkko_> this feels so complicated, 2 open source drivers, mesa, some glamour thing
[05:57] <valorie> most people just use what's provided
[05:58] <valorie> back in the day, there was a lot more messing about, but these days, it's usually really easy
[07:07] <soee> good morning
[09:36] <apb1963> How can I update qt please?
[09:36] <apb1963> The crash happens deep in the Qt library. I suggest to update Qt to version
[09:36] <apb1963> 4.8.5. While you are using newest KDE 4.12, you are still using a quite old Qt
[09:36] <apb1963> 4.8.2.
[09:57] <toxicinside> #nitdgp
[09:57] <toxicinside> join #nitdgp
[11:09] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:30] <mammuth> salut j'ai installé un ftp et de la page de mon site on peut prendre des dossiers mais pas en deposé  , les visiteurs sont obligé de passé par filezilla comment faire ?
[13:30] <Pici> !fr
[13:31] <mammuth> ok merci
[13:35] <it> hello kubuntu lovers
[14:08] <b33zu> So I just installed kubuntu. Is there anything cool to install with kubuntu?
[14:09] <lordievader> b33zu: What are you looking for?
[14:09]  * monkeyjuice thinks that kubuntu is cool :)
[14:11] <b33zu> Well it's loaded with a ton of features that is cool, but right now I guess I'm really looking for a way to customize the look and feel.
[14:12] <monkeyjuice> http://kde-look.org/   fun to look at this stuff
[14:12] <lordievader> b33zu: Ah, I don't know many applications in that category.
[14:13] <b33zu> Sounds good thanks.
[14:14] <tsimpson> !info plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
[14:14] <tsimpson> also that ^
[14:15] <tsimpson> there's also System Settings -> Application Appearance, and System Settings -> Workspace Appearance
[15:40] <der_willy> how does kubuntu log for computer in the network?
[15:41] <der_willy> i can access my nas via ftp, but do not see it in the computer
[15:44] <Der_Willy> ooops, back
[15:46] <alvin> Logs can be found in /var/log
[15:57] <genii> Der_Willy: The usual cause of another computer on the network not being found automatically is missing or incorrect broadcast address
[15:58] <Der_Willy> i use dhcp for all devices, i have no host
[16:11] <Der_Willy> i can ping all devices in my network
[16:11] <lordievader> Der_Willy: Could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig"?
[16:17] <Der_Willy> hi lordievader, i am conected via lan now ....
[16:17] <Der_Willy> my fault, i uses the wrong connect at my accesspoint
[16:19] <Der_Willy> http://pastebin.kde.org/p07us0bei
[16:19] <Der_Willy> i can ping everydevice
[16:20] <Der_Willy> i can connect to my nas fia ftp
[16:20] <Der_Willy> but i do net see it in the network as a computer
[16:24] <lordievader> Broadcast address seems to be in order. genii other sugestions?
[16:29] <genii> Der_Willy: Which computers are in what configuration in this scenario? eg: What OS is on the NAS and what OS is on the clients
[16:30] <Der_Willy> nas is from bufallo, i assume linux
[16:30] <Der_Willy> laptop1 is kubuntu, laptop 2 is vista,
[16:30] <Der_Willy> tv ? linux?
[16:31] <genii> Der_Willy: Does the Vista machine see it?
[16:31] <Der_Willy> no
[16:31] <Der_Willy> and i cannot not the the other laptop
[16:33] <genii> Der_Willy: Since the Windows machine also cannot see it, this indicates to me the configuration problem is not with the clients but with the NAS itself
[16:33] <Der_Willy> all are in the same ip range
[16:35] <genii> Der_Willy: What is the model of the Buffalo?
[16:35] <Der_Willy> the nas was visible with win7, but this is now my kubunte computer
[16:37] <genii> Der_Willy: So Win7 saw it but Vista doesn't?
[16:37] <Der_Willy> yes
[16:38]  * genii makes more coffee and waits for the model information so he can look it up
[16:39] <Der_Willy> i created a connected folder with the add network folder
[16:39] <Der_Willy> this works ...
[16:41] <Der_Willy> this is ok, but i do not understand why the nas does not appear a omputer or media server, this works yesterday
[18:03] <MangaKaDenza> I've got an odd question
[18:03] <MangaKaDenza> can a distro not officially based on ubuntu use ubuntu repositories?
[18:03] <MangaKaDenza> provided it has an appropriate spoofed lsb-release file in /etc ?
[18:04] <lordievader> MangaKaDenza: Any distro can use the Ubu repos. They might not be compatible but that is something else.
[18:04] <MangaKaDenza> ty
[18:06] <BluesKaj> backtrack ?
[18:06] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It's called Kali Linux these days ;)
[18:08] <BluesKaj> lots of ppl still ask about it tho
[18:09] <genii> We need a factoid called MangaKaDenza which says "Expect Breakage!"
[18:10] <lordievader> !learn MangaKaDenza "Expect Breakage!"
[18:10] <genii> lordievader: Hehe
[18:10] <lordievader> Hmm, too bad genii
[18:10] <MangaKaDenza> Surprisingly, I've had much less breakage nowadays
[18:10] <MangaKaDenza> I think my last install was actually a month ago
[18:10] <MangaKaDenza> still going strong
[18:10] <genii> MangaKaDenza: It seems you're always trying to do something weird with your system :)
[18:11] <MangaKaDenza> well not my sys this time
[18:14] <stephan> hey.
[18:14] <stephan> can i use ppas from precise in satty?
[18:15] <MangaKaDenza> Eckspect Borkage
[18:15] <stephan> MangaKaDenza: ?
[18:15] <Jacky> lmfao
[18:17] <MangaKaDenza> stephan: expect breakage™
[18:18] <stephan> i see. i will need to make a .deb for precise
[18:18] <stephan> erm, for satty.
[18:18] <MangaKaDenza> I mean, unless it has few dependancies... it might cause breakage
[18:18] <MangaKaDenza> like a simple standalone package I guess shouldn't explode your comp
[18:18] <MangaKaDenza> its the huge things that break stuff
[18:20] <lordievader> stephan: Do you mean with satty Saucy?
[18:21] <stephan> yes
[18:22] <lordievader> stephan: Then you probably don't want to add Precise ppas to your Saucy install. But like MangaKaDenza says in some cases it is possible...
[18:23] <MangaKaDenza> you can always modify /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:23]  * MangaKaDenza hides
[18:23] <MangaKaDenza> sudo nano
[18:24] <genii> stephan: Basically you'd want to download the source for the package, then follow instructions somewhat like here: https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingAPackage
[18:25] <genii> ( to build it for your current dist from the source of a previous one )
[18:29] <MangaKaDenza> say, another question
[18:29] <MangaKaDenza> is it possible to use Ubiquity for a non-ubu distro?
[18:33] <genii> MangaKaDenza: It uses Debian specific things inside, so it would only work for deb-based distributions.
[18:34] <apb1963> How can I update to Qt 4.8.5 please?
[18:35] <apb1963> kde 4.12, kubuntu 12.04.3
[18:36] <MangaKaDenza> apb1963: huh... I thought they released Qt5 already... which iirc is backcompat
[18:36] <apb1963> no idea
[18:36] <apb1963> all I know is I have 4.8.2 and it's crashing
[18:36] <apb1963> or... causing crashes
[18:37] <apb1963> it's buggy
[18:37] <apb1963> and I don't know how to update it
[18:38] <apb1963> I run apt-get update every 20 minutes... it doesn't help
[18:38] <MangaKaDenza> apb1963: it should be apt-get upgrade qt4
[18:38] <MangaKaDenza> or something
[18:38] <apb1963> or.... something.
[18:38] <apb1963> ok, I'll try that
[18:39] <lordievader> Qt5 isn't out yet, just alpha releases.
[18:39] <apb1963> he following packages will be upgraded:
[18:39] <apb1963>   flashplugin-installer language-pack-en language-pack-en-base
[18:40] <apb1963> Hmm
[18:40] <MangaKaDenza> lordievader: strange, I'm already using Qt5
[18:40] <MangaKaDenza> its already at 5.2.0
[18:41] <MangaKaDenza> apb1963: hmm, try apt-get install qtchooser
[18:41] <MangaKaDenza> and apt-get install qt5-default
[18:41] <lordievader> Hmm, maybe I'm confused with KDE5...
[18:41] <MangaKaDenza> lordievader: ja
[18:42] <MangaKaDenza> KDE 5 is not out yet officially
[18:42] <MangaKaDenza> still KDE4
[18:42] <apb1963> Unable to locate package qtchooser
[18:42] <MangaKaDenza> er...
[18:42] <MangaKaDenza> KDE SC 4
[18:42] <FloodBotK1> MangaKaDenza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <MangaKaDenza> apb1963: huh, it's in my packages... maybe it isn't avail for your version :T
[18:43] <apb1963> my version of... ?
[18:43] <MangaKaDenza> ubu
[18:43] <apb1963> 12.04.3
[18:43] <MangaKaDenza> you mentioned 12.04, I'm on 13.10...
[18:43] <apb1963> hmm
[18:43] <genii> !info qtchooser
[18:43] <genii> !info qtchooser precise
[18:44] <MangaKaDenza> oic
[18:44] <MangaKaDenza> :c
[18:45] <lordievader> !info qtchooser
[18:45] <lordievader> apb1963: What version of kubuntu do you have?
[18:45] <MangaKaDenza> lordievader: 12.04
[18:46] <MangaKaDenza> <3 konversation apb1963
[18:46] <lordievader> MangaKaDenza: That was directed at apb1963, see the apb1963 in front of my message ;)
[18:46] <MangaKaDenza> I know
[18:46] <MangaKaDenza> they have 12.04
[18:46] <MangaKaDenza> [10:35] <apb1963> kde 4.12, kubuntu 12.04.3
[18:46] <apb1963> :)
[18:46] <MangaKaDenza> :}
[18:46] <lordievader> Ah sorry...
[18:46] <MangaKaDenza> np
[18:46] <lordievader> !info qtchooser precise
[18:47] <tsimpson> it was introduced in raring
[18:47] <genii> If you feel brave, can try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa   where there IS qtchooser and other things for 12.04
[18:47] <apb1963> I don't feel brave actually...I just need programs to stop crashing.
[18:48] <genii> ( version  	0.0.1~git20121229.g8f08405-0ubuntu1~precise1~test7  there)
[18:48] <apb1963> And I was told to update to 4.8.5
[18:48] <apb1963> Qt 4.8.5
[18:49] <genii> !info libqt4-core precise
[18:50] <MangaKaDenza> apt-get install libqt4* ?
[18:51] <apb1963> Is that a question or a regular expression?
[18:51] <genii> MangaKaDenza: That will only get them the 4.8.1 version, which is the latest in the Precise repositories, as the bot showed above
[18:51] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[18:51] <MangaKaDenza> well
[18:52] <MangaKaDenza> speaking completely seriously...
[18:52] <MangaKaDenza> you could compile the latest 4.** ver from source
[18:53] <genii> Might be in kubuntu ppa backports
[18:53] <MangaKaDenza> actually, apb1963 http://download.qt-project.org/official_releases/qt/4.8/4.8.5/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.5.tar.gz
[18:53] <MangaKaDenza> try that
[18:53] <MangaKaDenza> its 4.8.5
[18:55] <apb1963> remind me how I can check my current versions please?
[18:57] <genii> apb1963: If you want to see what version of Qt you're currently using, just in Konsole something like: konsole --version
[18:58] <genii> ( or any app name which uses Qt )
[18:59] <apb1963> cool.  ty
[19:00] <apb1963> I don't know if you'll find this interesting or not... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329793
[19:01] <apb1963> Kind of crazy that I'd need to compile it though
[19:01] <MangaKaDenza> well with the installer, it won't need to be compiled
[19:01] <MangaKaDenza> that one provides precompiled ones
[19:02] <apb1963> the installer that's not a part of my version
[19:02] <MangaKaDenza> :|
[19:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know a good way to get google earth working on 13.10 since the 32bit libs are depreciated
[19:02] <MangaKaDenza> Whiskey`Wonka: try looking at ubuntuupdates.org
[19:02] <MangaKaDenza> they have a ppa list for google stuffzors
[19:03] <Whiskey`Wonka> thought that was just for chrome nad such, mm. i will look
[19:15] <Whiskey`Wonka> MangaKaDenza: looks like all they have is the package to build a google earth package, that IS what is broken
[19:15] <MangaKaDenza> oic...
[19:15] <MangaKaDenza> idk then D:
[19:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> yea its depends on lsb-core, ia32libs (depreciated) etc cause havoc on 13.10
[19:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> i wish google would get with it and 'do no evil' and release a true damn linux app, not a hacked winders version
[20:14] <apb1963> Whiskey`Wonka: it's strange.. shortly after your mention of google... I got a notification of an update for "The Google Browser".  I started to install it, but then I killed it as it made me a bit nervous... why doesn't it specify "Chrome" instead of "The Google Browser" ?  Is it possible someone injected something evil into a ppa?
[20:17] <Walex> apb1963: it all depends on who notified you of the update, and where it was being downloaded to. But if something can pop up messages like that your system is already compromised to a large degree.
[20:18] <lordievader> apb1963: Ppa's can be untrusted, what ppa are we talking about here?
[20:20] <apb1963> lordievader: I don't know... I'm  not sure I've ever seen it specify
[20:21] <lordievader> apb1963: Hmm, well you can take a look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to see if there are some untrust worthy sources in there.
[20:21] <apb1963> lordievader: only what I've added... which is a fair amount
[20:22] <lordievader> apb1963: But do you trust each and every one of them ;)
[20:24] <apb1963> lordievader: I don't have any reason NOT to trust them.... have a look for yourself...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6752397/
[20:26] <lordievader> apb1963: I don't want to look through all of them... anyhow if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is chrome between them?
[20:28] <apb1963> The following packages will be upgraded:
[20:28] <apb1963>   google-chrome-stable
[20:29] <lordievader> apb1963: Probably from your google-chrome.list source, but you can check with: apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable
[20:30] <apb1963>   Installed: 31.0.1650.63-1
[20:30] <apb1963>   Candidate: 32.0.1700.77-1
[20:31] <apb1963> so I guess that means it's ok
[20:31] <lordievader> apb1963: And version 32 comes from: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ right?
[20:32] <apb1963> right
[20:33] <lordievader> apb1963: Then it is ok ;)
[20:33] <apb1963> thank you
[20:33] <apb1963> so here's something not ok:
[20:33] <apb1963> Basic XLib functionality test failed!
[20:33] <apb1963>  You might need to modify the include and library search paths by editing
[20:33] <apb1963>  QMAKE_INCDIR_X11 and QMAKE_LIBDIR_X11 in /usr/local/src/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.5/mkspecs/linux-g++.
[20:33] <FloodBotK1> apb1963: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <apb1963> What am I doing wrong here?  sudo apt-add-repository ppa: deb http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[20:58] <claydoh> apb1963: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[20:59] <claydoh> apb1963: the ppa page, such as http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports, will show the "ppa:" address form to use
[20:59] <apb1963> claydoh: ty
[21:01] <apb1963> claydoh:
[21:01] <apb1963> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[21:01] <apb1963> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/+archive/backports) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[21:03] <claydoh> apb1963: you are still entering the address incorrectly, paste the exact line I posted above
[21:05] <claydoh> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:05]  * genii makes more coffee
[21:06] <apb1963> got it.  ty
[21:19] <apb1963> so i've got the repo.  How can I get qt to update?
[21:20] <apb1963> update, upgrade, dist-upgrade... nothing works to get a later version
[21:23] <apb1963>  I should be able to get 4.8.4 but I don't know how
[21:28] <noaXess> hey all
[21:28] <noaXess> i made a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10 64bit
[21:29] <noaXess> any hint.. i build a new system with this mainboard: Supermicro X9SCA (Server board), SATA-III HD 2TB and internal grafic card.. i installed ubuntu from usb stick als works fine.. but now, if i reboot the system is shuting down, instaed of rebooting..
[21:30] <S73f4n0> hi to everyone, does someone know how to install kubuntu 13.10 64bit with wubi?
[21:32] <S73f4n0> I mean, it only recognize ubuntu iso
[21:34] <S73f4n0> both if I run wubi offline with kubuntu iso in the same folder, and if I run it online it downloads ubuntu iso instead of kubuntu iso
[21:34] <S73f4n0> thanks to everyone that answers to me
[21:38] <noaXess> S73f4n0: what about making a usb stick to boot from and then install=
[21:38] <noaXess> ?
[21:39] <S73f4n0> I can only use it in dual boot
[21:39] <S73f4n0> so i can't modify the partition table
[21:40] <S73f4n0> I use to install old versions with wubi, but in this case I have that trouble
[21:40] <S73f4n0> noaXess
[21:42] <noaXess> okey..
[21:42] <noaXess> hm so you want wubi to install kubuntu iso..
[21:42] <noaXess> i don't even used wubi in tha past..
[21:42] <noaXess> is ther a command line to eg. set the iso file?
[21:43] <S73f4n0> no, just run wubi into the same folder of the iso
[21:43] <S73f4n0> if I try with ubuntu iso it works, with the kubuntu one no+
[21:44] <S73f4n0> if there is internet connection it downloads the right iso, usually, but in this case it downloads the ubuntu one instead of the kubuntu iso
[21:46] <S73f4n0> also the icon is the same in both attempts
[21:50] <S73f4n0> noaXess: thanks for the help :)
[22:11] <Euclidis_> Greetings..
[22:12] <Euclidis_> Is KDE 4.12 still using kwin as window manager?
[22:14] <Euclidis_> Wtf is happening with these 'support-channels'? Kubuntu, Ubuntu, KDE.. Looking useless.
[23:15] <claydoh> apb1963: re qt version, what version Kubuntu you run?
[23:16] <apb1963> 12.04.3
[23:19] <claydoh> there is no qt 4.8.4 in precise, not in that ppa, 4.8.2 is though
[23:20] <apb1963> i have 4.8.2... someone told me 4.8.4 was in there, though I'm actually looking for 4.8.5
[23:24] <claydoh> it is (.4), but for raring 13.04 in that ppa. Saucy and Trusty have it in normal repos
[23:26] <claydoh> don't think we have 4.8.5 anywhere yet, unless someone else has a ppa for it