| robert_ancell | ochosi, how odd!? Does normal screensaver stuff work? | 00:17 |
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| robert_ancell | cjwatson, I'm working on merging it now, I *think* it's just a matter of making the -core package out of the existing packages, but not 100% sure I've missed something | 00:17 |
| cjwatson | robert_ancell: well, if you can get it to work ... I'd suggest fairly careful upgrade-testing in schroot instances though | 00:18 |
| cjwatson | I won't actually be *that* sorry to lose touched-it-last on that one | 00:19 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: yeah, within the session everything is fine, but XSetScreensaver (..) and XForceScreensaver don't seem to cause a reaction in the greeter (even though it's all plain xlib as far as i understand) | 00:19 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, :) | 00:20 |
| ochosi | i.e. "xset s $timeout" works also with nouveau during a session | 00:20 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, did you try calling xset from the greeter to confirm it's not your code? | 00:20 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: ehrm, how would i do that? is there an interactive console hidden in the greeter? :) | 00:21 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, I mean using system() | 00:21 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: ah, never tried that (and didn't know about it), thanks, will give that a go! | 00:21 |
| Noskcaj | Can someone take a look at bug 1244629 ? It's my first attempt at an SRU bug | 00:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1244629 in xfce4-weather-plugin (Ubuntu) "SRU xfce4-weather-plugin, currently showing 'No Data'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244629 | 00:26 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: ok, seems like the values in X get set accordingly, the screen just doesn't blank with nouveau (i.e. something with the X11-screensaver extension seems borked there) | 00:30 |
| Noskcaj | doko, Can you merge the NMU for python-werkzeug to ubuntu? It should fix the test failure | 01:13 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, you blacklisted the fonts-* packages (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748084/) "to conflicts with existing Ubuntu-versioned binaries" - I can't see any existing binaries with those names | 01:51 |
| cjwatson | robert_ancell: that's the thing you're working on | 02:02 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, the ttf-indic-fonts source package? | 02:02 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, we appear to have all the font packages available (e.g. fonts-lohit-beng-bengali) which obsolete the ttf-indic-fonts binary packages | 02:03 |
| cjwatson | robert_ancell: yes - fonts-beng ships a ttf-bengali-fonts binary package, which is currently in ttf-indic-fonts | 02:03 |
| cjwatson | robert_ancell: does fonts-beng not need a -core version then? | 02:03 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, no, fonts-beng just has "Depends: fonts-lohit-beng-bengali, fonts-lohit-beng-assamese, fonts-beng-extra" | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | and all those exist in the archive | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | oh, it's actually a recent change for it to have dropped ttf-bengali-fonts | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | and fonts-indic just depends on fonts-beng and friends | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | yeah | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | look at rmadison -u debian -S fonts-beng and you'll see what I mean | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | so is it all fine enough grained now that we can just select a reasonably small set of fonts by package name? | 02:05 |
| robert_ancell | no, but we have all the binary font packages there and not the metapackages | 02:05 |
| cjwatson | one serif and one sans-serif per language was apparently the former criterion | 02:05 |
| robert_ancell | so it seems like we might as well have those too | 02:05 |
| cjwatson | we shouldn't sync if it's going to regress this though | 02:06 |
| cjwatson | if we still need to apply a split, that's effectively a merge | 02:06 |
| robert_ancell | we still have the old ttf-* package that is on the image, but it is just removed if you install the newer fonts-* packages | 02:06 |
| cjwatson | sure, but that's not indicative in itself ... | 02:06 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, so, you're saying we should hold back the metapackages until we have a solution for more finely grained fonts? | 02:07 |
| cjwatson | I dunno, it's late. Please batch up the set of things you think I should be removing from the blacklist and mail them to me so I can think about them when I'm awake? | 02:07 |
| robert_ancell | sure, thanks | 02:07 |
| slangasek | /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qatomic_arch.h:98:38: fatal error: QtCore/qatomic_aarch64.h: No such file or directory | 03:25 |
| slangasek | hmph | 03:25 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: I just got that same FTBFS on a package that I just uploaded | 03:31 |
| slangasek | Logan_: cool, are you feeling inspired to track down the bug in qt4-x11? :) | 03:31 |
| Logan_ | I am actually feeling especially inspired today | 03:32 |
| Logan_ | lemme see what I can do | 03:32 |
| Logan_ | this came about with the latest upload, right? | 03:33 |
| * Logan_ pokes shadeslayer just in case he's alive | 03:33 | |
| slangasek | no idea; I just saw it in an avahi build | 03:33 |
| Logan_ | looking at the diff | 03:34 |
| Logan_ | oh wonderful, it's making Firefox hang | 03:35 |
| Logan_ | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/162395910/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-arm64.unixodbc-gui-qt_2.3.0-3ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is the other package that just FTBFSed on arm64, fwiw | 03:38 |
| slangasek | O horror, a delta for unixodbc-gui-qt and you haven't forwarded it to the Debian maintainer ;) | 03:39 |
| Logan_ | oh hi maintainer :P | 03:39 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: I'm going to take a gander | 03:40 |
| Logan_ | I think: | 03:40 |
| Logan_ | -usr/include/qt4/Qt/qatomic_aarch64.h | 03:40 |
| Logan_ | in the .install diff has something to do with it :P | 03:40 |
| slangasek | heh | 03:40 |
| Logan_ | the file still exists, so I think it's just a semi botched merge | 03:41 |
| Logan_ | should I try adding it back to the install file? | 03:41 |
| slangasek | makes sense to me | 03:41 |
| Logan_ | watch this be maintained in a Bazaar branch | 03:41 |
| Logan_ | I hate it when that happens | 03:42 |
| Logan_ | oh, it's also in Main | 03:42 |
| * Logan_ isn't a core dev :'( | 03:42 | |
| Logan_ | slangasek: what should we do? you're a core dev, so you can upload to Kubuntu branches | 03:45 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: here's the relevant part of the diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748482/ | 03:47 |
| Logan_ | Riddell: Around? | 03:48 |
| slangasek | Logan_: you could certainly do a bzr mp for it; grabbing the branch now to look | 03:50 |
| Logan_ | Kubuntu tends to ignore merge proposals on their branches, unfortunately | 03:50 |
| Logan_ | I've tried in the past | 03:50 |
| Logan_ | shoot, now Qt stuff in the rebuild queue is failing, which will create false positives | 03:51 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: unless you were to approve my mp? :P | 03:53 |
| slangasek | I could presumably do this :) | 03:53 |
| Logan_ | okay, I'll propose in a few. I'll ping you | 03:53 |
| Logan_ | ...don't mind me | 03:55 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: here's your freshly-baked mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~logan/kubuntu-packaging/qt4-x11-arm64/+merge/201535 | 04:02 |
| Logan_ | thanks Steve! :) | 04:04 |
| slangasek | Logan_: sure thing :) (now, finding all the bits so that I can actually upload it is another matter) | 04:06 |
| Logan_ | right | 04:06 |
| Logan_ | should we test it in a PPA first? | 04:06 |
| Logan_ | or is this relatively trivial? | 04:08 |
| slangasek | Logan_: I'm not testing in a ppa. Have you done a test binary build? | 04:12 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: I can't really do it locally - it takes 1.5 hours to build on the build | 04:13 |
| slangasek | looks like it'll take another 4 minutes for the tarball to get here over the pub wifi, so you have time yet to test ;) | 04:13 |
| Logan_ | buildd | 04:13 |
| slangasek | ah, k | 04:13 |
| Logan_ | so should I push to a PPA? | 04:14 |
| Logan_ | it'll probably take forever... | 04:14 |
| slangasek | Logan_: nope, it's not worth taking the ppa time up for verifying something that's as low-risk as this | 04:16 |
| Logan_ | ok | 04:16 |
| micahg | hggdh: thanks, done | 04:25 |
| Logan_ | hey Micah! | 04:27 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: How's it going? | 04:34 |
| slangasek | Logan_: uploading now | 04:35 |
| Logan_ | sweet | 04:35 |
| Netsnipe | hi everyone | 05:10 |
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| Netsnipe | does anyone know which package/project that the Ubuntu AMIs are covered by in Launchpad? | 05:12 |
| Netsnipe | Ubuntu AMIs in AWS that is. | 05:13 |
| Logan_ | tumbleweed: Are you around? | 05:14 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:30 |
| pitti | Logan_: indeed, I guess it's about time | 05:30 |
| Logan_ | pitti: Morning! I forget when it happened the last cycle. Should I check? | 05:30 |
| pitti | Logan_: it's usually "when we have the feeling it's a good time" :) | 05:31 |
| Logan_ | Ah. | 05:31 |
| Logan_ | I'm indifferent, honestly. I've been getting hardly any crashes. | 05:31 |
| pitti | there isn't that much churn on GNOME etc. that we expect much breakage in the beginning | 05:31 |
| pitti | and we have errors.u.c., too | 05:31 |
| Logan_ | True. | 05:31 |
| * Logan_ shrugs. Just a thought. | 05:33 | |
| Logan_ | Maybe closer to Alpha 2 would make more sense. | 05:34 |
| Logan_ | That's when it was done for Oneiric, at least. | 05:34 |
| Logan_ | It was enabled on June 21 for Trusty, which was before Alpha 1. Hmm. | 05:37 |
| pitti | right, that's our usual time | 05:37 |
| Logan_ | So I guess it makes sense to enable it now. | 05:37 |
| Logan_ | Especially since this will be an LTS. We want crash reports to be as visible as possible, I think. | 05:39 |
| Logan_ | slangasek: it built successfully on a few arches so far, so that's good - I'll try rebuilding the affected packages in the morning | 06:14 |
| slangasek | Logan_: spiff, thanks | 06:14 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:55 |
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| Logan_ | slangasek: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unixodbc-gui-qt/2.3.0-3ubuntu1/+build/5455791 hooray | 08:30 |
| mitya57 | LoganCloud: thanks for fixing it! | 08:45 |
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| Laney | @pilot in | 09:05 |
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| darkxst | Laney, can you take a look at gnome-themes-standard during your shift? | 09:20 |
| Laney | okay | 09:20 |
| doko | zul, ntdb needs a MIR (b-d of samba) | 09:23 |
| doko | seb128, unicode-data needs a MIR (b-d of gucharmap) | 09:27 |
| doko | same for the recommends of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg ttf-indic-fonts | 09:27 |
| seb128 | doko, thanks for pointing it out | 09:28 |
| doko | and see indicator-datetime and lightdm | 09:28 |
| doko | and fonts-wqy-microhei | 09:28 |
| seb128 | ? | 09:29 |
| seb128 | doko, you are looking at component-mismatch? | 09:29 |
| seb128 | doko, those are not real issues, they are provides resolved in a confusing way because of ppc64el builds missing | 09:30 |
| seb128 | well, they are issues in the sense that we should make e.g unity-greeter and unity build on ppc64el | 09:31 |
| seb128 | it's just that e.g lightdm recommends a greeter, with unity-greeter as preferred, but that one is not available so it fallback to the gtk one | 09:31 |
| seb128 | the indicator has the same issue, it needs a rendered and our default one is unity | 09:32 |
| seb128 | doko, unicode-data ... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unicode-data ... do you know why it was demoted in trusty? | 09:33 |
| seb128 | doko, it has a MIR approved/closed and was in main in saucy | 09:33 |
| doko | seb128, maybe it did fell out, and pitti was quick to demote it? ;p | 09:34 |
| doko | re-promoting | 09:34 |
| seb128 | I don't think pitti does archive admin cleanups nowadays, you need to find somebody else to point finger there ;-) | 09:34 |
| seb128 | danke | 09:34 |
| doko | in the past he was quicker than I could fix bugs ;) | 09:35 |
| mitya57 | doko: fonts-wqy-microhei is a rename of ttf-wqy-microhei, if the previous one was in main the new one can also be safely promoted | 09:36 |
| doko | micahg, yes, needs a MIR for xdelta3 | 09:36 |
| doko | mitya57, ^^^ | 09:36 |
| mitya57 | Do renames really need a MIR? | 09:36 |
| mitya57 | Oh, or is it a new dependency? | 09:37 |
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| doko | mitya57, it's a new b-d | 09:37 |
| Laney | Has our ubuntu delta been applied to fonts-wqy-microhei? | 09:37 |
| mitya57 | Laney: yes | 09:38 |
| mitya57 | I am amazed by the changelog, but it doesn't say anything about xdelta | 09:38 |
| Laney | wow, that changelog | 09:39 |
| doko | tkamppeter, pitti: please see the splix ftbfs in -proposed, seems to be apport related. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/162345035/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.splix_2.0.0%2Bsvn315-1fakesync1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 09:46 |
| pitti | doko, seb128: no, I didn't touch component-mismatch recently | 09:47 |
| doko | pitti, there was a smiley ... | 09:47 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: ^ seems the merge/sync dropped our apport hook? | 09:47 |
| pitti | doko: (no worries) | 09:48 |
| mitya57 | pitti: the changelog says "* Add apport hook on Ubuntu and derivatives (reduces the package delta)." | 09:50 |
| pitti | yeah, I figure someone forgot to git add the file | 09:50 |
| mitya57 | Also, the restriction doesn't make much sense as Debian has apport package as well | 09:51 |
| OdyX | tkamppeter already reported it to debian-printing, I'm waiting on the maintainer (or a patch). Best would be a normal bug with a patch that'd allow NMU. | 09:51 |
| mitya57 | doko: xdelta3 package looks sane to me, do you know any team that can be subscribed to bugs/ | 09:56 |
| mitya57 | s/\//?/ | 09:56 |
| ggvaberi | hello. I need to write bash script and need some gnome theme setting. for example icon-theme. I use gsettings command for it but not sure if this command is stable part of gnome. can i use this command and be sure that it will come with gnome always? | 09:56 |
| doko | mitya57, fonts? desktop? enoclue | 09:57 |
| mitya57 | ggvaberi: Yes, gsettings is stable and is not going to go away | 09:57 |
| mitya57 | doko: It is a binary variant of diff/patch, mostly unrelated to fonts or desktop | 09:57 |
| mitya57 | Will you approve the MIR if I'll be the only person subscribed? | 09:58 |
| * mitya57 was one who synced fonts-wqy-microhei, so I feel responsive for fixing the mess :) | 09:58 | |
| doko | mitya57, no, should be a team. seb128, could the desktop team do that? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | mitya57, doko: subscribe desktop-bugs if you want | 10:01 |
| doko | thanks | 10:01 |
| mitya57 | I can't do that | 10:03 |
| ggvaberi | <mitya57> thank you. :) | 10:04 |
| doko | mvo, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/1.1.1-1ubuntu2/+build/5304049/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.aptdaemon_1.1.1-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 10:11 |
| ggvaberi | and one more question. Is possible to access to key org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme by dbus? for make alternate to this command 'gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme' but using only dbus, without gtk gio or GSettings. | 10:20 |
| mitya57 | doko: bug 1268905 filed | 10:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1268905 in xdelta3 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] xdelta3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1268905 | 10:36 |
| mitya57 | Had to submit a watch file to Debian for that :/ | 10:36 |
| mitya57 | doko: please really subscribe desktop-bugs if you can | 10:41 |
| doko | mitya57, seb128 has to do that | 10:41 |
| doko | jamespage, please subscribe to the new packages in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parsedatetime/+bug/1268909 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1268909 in python-recaptcha (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-recaptcha and parsedatetime, b-d's of moin" [Undecided,New] | 10:44 |
| seb128 | doko, mitya57: done | 10:45 |
| doko | mitya57_, promoted | 10:56 |
| mitya57_ | thanks! | 10:57 |
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| mitya57 | Laney: hi, are you still piloting? Can you maybe upload lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qt, which fixes bug 1268690? | 11:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1268690 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtdbus4 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4.8', which is also in package libqt4-dbus:i386 4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu22" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1268690 | 11:08 |
| Laney | mitya57: ok | 11:09 |
| mitya57 | Thank you! | 11:09 |
| Laney | xnox: could you please check the argyll merge? | 11:14 |
| Laney | I'm not sure if your patch is obsoleted | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Are the precise language packs good to promote to -updates? | 11:19 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I built them one week ago; I haven't heard any problems about them, so yes from my POV | 11:19 |
| pitti | cjwatson: they were meant for 12.04.4 preparation, and we thought we'd build them early to have them in iso testing | 11:19 |
| pitti | (and I checked a few of them with binary debdiffing) | 11:20 |
| cjwatson | pitti: OK, cool, I'll see about copying those then | 11:21 |
| pitti | $ sru-release --pattern precise language-pack- | 11:21 |
| pitti | cjwatson: thanks | 11:22 |
| cjwatson | Yep, I just found the operator guide off the AA wiki | 11:22 |
| jodh | Laney: xnox is away this week. | 11:32 |
| Laney | jodh: I see | 11:33 |
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| tumbleweed | LoganCloud: hi | 11:41 |
| ahmed__ | hi | 11:54 |
| ahmed__ | hi | 11:54 |
| ahmed__ | how to create .deb file ? | 11:54 |
| ahmed__ | I have project wanna to publish in .deb format | 11:55 |
| davmor2 | ahmed__: that is better asked on the #ubuntu-app-devel channel, but there are some wiki guides for building a deb package | 11:56 |
| ahasenack | pitti: hi, around? Question about postgresql 9.1 -> 9.3 upgrade to trusty | 12:13 |
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| ahasenack | pitti: there is no 9.1 in trusty, and no 9.3 in < trusty, so if you upgrade, your db is gone (not erased, just not accessible) | 12:13 |
| ahasenack | what's the plan, upgrade to 9.3 from apt.postgresql.org on ubuntu < trusty and then upgrade to trusty? | 12:14 |
| pitti | ahasenack: why is -9.1 gone? it shouldn't get removed during upgrade, we have some special handling for that in update-manager | 12:14 |
| pitti | ahasenack: the intention is that on upgrade you keep the precise (or saucy) -9.1 packages and the "obsolete version" debconf note which explains how to upgrade to 9.3 | 12:15 |
| ahasenack | pitti: 9.1 packages are not in trusty as far as I can see, only plperl, client and server-dev | 12:15 |
| pitti | ahasenack: right, only -plperl, as we don't want to support *installing* -9.1 in trusty | 12:15 |
| ahasenack | pitti: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-9.1/+changelog rbasak pointed me at that | 12:15 |
| ahasenack | pitti: the 9.1 packages were removed as far as I can tell, let me try to find sometihng in the logs | 12:15 |
| pitti | ahasenack: we need plperl as precise's/raring's etc. plperl packages don't work in trusty, due to how perl is packaged; but the rest works | 12:15 |
| pitti | ahasenack: yes, yes, I know | 12:16 |
| pitti | ahasenack: they are removed from the trusty *archive* | 12:16 |
| ahasenack | pitti: the machine was "accidentally" upgraded to trusty, I don't know who did it (it's a shared machine) | 12:16 |
| pitti | ahasenack: but they shoudln't get removed *from your system* on upgrade | 12:16 |
| ahasenack | pitti: so let me double check that, but the person who found this out had to install 9.1 from apt.postgresql.org | 12:16 |
| pitti | ahasenack: ok, I'd need the /var/log/dist-upgrade/ logs for that, to see why postgresql-9.1 got removed | 12:17 |
| ahasenack | ok | 12:17 |
| pitti | it's certainly not intended that it gets removed; and as you say, this would lock you out from your clusters | 12:17 |
| ahasenack | pitti: I think it was a hackjob, whatever happened release-upgrade wasn't involved, those logs are from may 2013 | 12:22 |
| ahasenack | pitti: I'll ping again if i find anything that points to a bug | 12:22 |
| pitti | ahasenack: apt-get dist-upgrade should be fine, too | 12:22 |
| pitti | ahasenack: do you know from which release it was upgraded? I can try in a chroot | 12:23 |
| ahasenack | pitti: so keeping 9.1 would not be a release-upgade trick, just plain packaging deps | 12:23 |
| ahasenack | pitti: I was told saucy, but i see commented quantal lines in sources.list | 12:23 |
| pitti | ahasenack: right; the "trick" in u-m is just to avoid removing packages which went away | 12:23 |
| pitti | ahasenack: i. e. usually u-m does that, but it shouldn't for postgresql | 12:23 |
| ahasenack | ok, saucy, confirmed | 12:24 |
| ahasenack | via .save files in sources.list.d | 12:24 |
| pitti | I'll try after lunch | 12:24 |
| jamespage | doko, ubuntu-server subscribed to those two packages | 12:44 |
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| Laney | @pilot out | 13:00 |
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| Laney | mitya57: I uploaded it | 13:00 |
| Laney | there's some autopkgtest failures on excuses for the previous version | 13:00 |
| mitya57 | Laney: Thanks, will take a look at the failures | 13:01 |
| mitya57 | Oh, so all those users who filed those bugs were using -proposed :( | 13:01 |
| Laney | yeah, it happens | 13:02 |
| Laney | on the bright side it found a bug | 13:02 |
| mitya57 | Right :) | 13:03 |
| mitya57 | Humm, both those tests never passed, not sure if they should really block the migration | 13:13 |
| hggdh | micahg: ubuntu-uploaders membership does not expire anymore | 13:38 |
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| mterry | @pilot in | 14:42 |
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| barry | doko: how's the test rebuild going? is there a new page with results? the link you gave me last week still has no results for anything but main | 14:44 |
| doko | barry, there's enough to fix in main ;) | 14:45 |
| doko | barry, also, jamespage might want your help with python-django-compressor | 14:45 |
| barry | doko: yeah ;) i'm going to try to spend some time on that today. | 14:46 |
| barry | jamespage: sure thing, feel free to ping me | 14:46 |
| doko | cinder | 14:49 |
| doko | needs webop? | 14:49 |
| doko | click: | 14:49 |
| doko | test failures | 14:49 |
| doko | distro-info: | 14:49 |
| doko | test failures | 14:49 |
| doko | genshi: | 14:49 |
| doko | test failures | 14:49 |
| doko | germinate: | 14:49 |
| doko | test failures | 14:49 |
| doko | grub2-signed: | 14:50 |
| doko | test failures | 14:50 |
| doko | barry: ^^^ these are python3.4 as default related ftbfs | 14:50 |
| barry | doko: ack. i'll look at those first | 14:51 |
| mterry | cyphermox, I'm looking at bug 1264630. Do you have any background info on how safe that sync would be? | 14:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1264630 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "Sync modemmanager 1.0.0-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264630 | 14:58 |
| Laney | we already talked about that in #ubuntu-desktop earlier | 14:59 |
| mterry | oh | 14:59 |
| Laney | someone should have commented :( | 14:59 |
| Laney | but cyphermox said he'd handle it, so I'd assign it to him and remove sponsors | 14:59 |
| mterry | ok, will do | 14:59 |
| micahg | hggdh: thanks | 15:01 |
| knocte | Cimi: ping | 15:09 |
| Cimi | knocte, pong | 15:09 |
| knocte | Cimi: hey! been already a week since your review: https://code.launchpad.net/~knocte/ubuntu-themes/bring-back-zebra-striping/+merge/200429 why is not merged? I thought the bots would do it | 15:10 |
| knocte | Cimi: if I'm missing some very important aspect about launchpad, please enlighten me! | 15:15 |
| Cimi | knocte, I don't know :) I'll have a look later | 15:15 |
| knocte | cool thanks :) | 15:15 |
| Laney | knocte: Cimi: At the very least it hasn't been top approved | 15:16 |
| knocte | Laney: what does that mean? | 15:16 |
| Cimi | Laney, you right | 15:16 |
| Cimi | Laney, top apprived | 15:16 |
| Laney | Status: needs review | 15:16 |
| Laney | -> approved | 15:16 |
| knocte | oh thanks, is there any launchpad docs where it explains this better? I find https://dev.launchpad.net/UsingMergeProposals a bit lacking | 15:17 |
| Laney | umm, not sure, it's part of the Ubuntu-specific CI process | 15:18 |
| Laney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/ & friends is probably useful, although that is being redesigned a bit atm | 15:20 |
| knocte | Laney: cheers | 15:22 |
| zul | doko/barryw: doko ping | 15:27 |
| doko | ? | 15:28 |
| zul | doko: python-lxml imports beautifulsoup but there is not build dependency? does that make sense | 15:28 |
| doko | zul, maybe not | 15:30 |
| tumbleweed | isn't that only in the soupparser module? | 15:31 |
| zul | doko: im asking because beautifulsoup is in universe and bs4 is in main | 15:31 |
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| LoganCloud | Tumbleweed: I noticed that you originally added DDE support to pull-lp-source. It appears to be dead, so the script now hangs for a bit, trying to resolve it, if you don't specify an actual package | 16:29 |
| rbasak | I'm about to upload an apache2 merge, where some functionality has moved to a different source package (mpm-itk) that has already synced to universe. There's a transitional binary generated by the apache2 source now, which depends on that. How do I get that transitional binary overriden to universe, and is this the right thing to do? | 17:36 |
| rbasak | (I'm not sure that we need an MIR for mpm-itk, but in any case I'd like to at least get apache2 done first) | 17:37 |
| cjwatson | rbasak: tell #ubuntu-release when it appears in NEW | 17:38 |
| rbasak | OK, thanks. | 17:38 |
| cjwatson | rbasak: or just don't worry about the overrides and we'll figure it out | 17:38 |
| rbasak | Great. Just wanted to make sure that I'm not causing trouble :) | 17:38 |
| infinity | rbasak: Well, we need to make a decision (you need to make a decision) about whether you want to support mpm-itk installations, and thus move it all to main, or vice versa. | 17:47 |
| infinity | rbasak: But yeah, if your take is that the install base is low, you don't care about main-only upgrades, and you'd rather have itk in universe, that'll pretty much sort itself, cause we'll demote things the tools tell us to demote due to not being seeded. | 17:48 |
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| rbasak | Hmm. It looks like apache2-mpm-itk has always been in universe, so maybe it's overridden already. | 18:08 |
| glass|2 | hi, i've unsquashed and then resquashed filesyste.squashfs, rebuilt the iso but at boot it show only a initrd shell. how fix this? | 18:27 |
| mterry | @pilot off | 18:33 |
| udevbot | (pilot (in|out)) -- Set yourself an in or out of patch pilot. | 18:33 |
| mterry | @pilot out | 18:33 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Trusty Tahr Alpha 1 released! | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> saucy | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: | ||
| mterry | ahem | 18:33 |
| tumbleweed | LoganCloud: aah, best solution is probably to fix DDE | 18:38 |
| LoganCloud | Tumbleweed I have no idea how long it's been dead | 18:39 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I always use src: syntax | 18:40 |
| LoganCloud | Maybe we should contact the maintainer | 18:40 |
| LoganCloud | Lunch, bbl | 18:41 |
| * cjwatson swears at hg and runs "git hg clone http://hg.python.org/cpython" so he has some hope of deciphering the history | 18:41 | |
| tumbleweed | LoganCloud: erm, seems to be working just fine for me | 18:41 |
| LoganCloud | Tumbleweed http://dde.debian.net/dde/ | 18:42 |
| LoganCloud | Couldn't connect to server | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | oh, I lie | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | I'll poke enrico | 18:43 |
| LoganCloud | Ok thanks | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | LoganCloud: apache seems down on that box | 18:45 |
| kentb | is there a way to test whether or not a fix works for a ftbfs on ppcel64? | 19:29 |
| kentb | err ppc64el | 19:29 |
| cjwatson | No porter boxes as yet, but you can often guess fairly reliably by e.g. observing whether a build on another architecture updates the autotools files that need to be updated | 19:32 |
| cjwatson | (Or rather, not ones that are generally available) | 19:33 |
| kentb | ok. thanks! | 19:36 |
| kaie | Hi darkxst: Regarding your gdm update 3.0.4-0ubuntu15.2 which is used on 12.04 lts. It broke automatic startup of the display manager. On my system, the plymouth-ready event, which have added as a precondition for starting gdm, is never produced. | 19:37 |
| kaie | I had to remove that precondition from /etc/init/gdm.conf | 19:38 |
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| kaie | I sent email to Tim. Cheers | 20:15 |
| Logan_ | How can we bootstrap ghc for arm64 and ppc64el? It needs itself apparently... | 20:30 |
| Logan_ | Oh, never mind. I see the ML thread. | 20:31 |
| Logan_ | cjwatson: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-December/014796.html Any chance of getting that going? | 20:31 |
| cjwatson | Logan_: I tried for ppc64el, still haven't got it working | 20:40 |
| Logan_ | :/ | 20:40 |
| cjwatson | Logan_: (but not given up) | 20:40 |
| Logan_ | so much yellow in the FTBFS list, lol | 20:40 |
| cjwatson | Logan_: AFAIK arm64 needs upstream work; maybe with 7.8 | 20:40 |
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| cjwatson | Logan_: I did get a stage1 ghc that sort of worked to the point of producing a useful hello-world, but it crashed upon trying to do anything complicated | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | Logan_: and unfortunately it tends to take hours per iteration | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | (to build on my laptop, that is) | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | so, yeah. will try again soonish | 20:42 |
| Logan_ | ah, cool. thanks for your work! | 20:42 |
| Laney | keep an eye on https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7942 | 20:43 |
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| barry | infinity, wgrant: doko said i should ping you about his test rebuild and put backs. i just uploaded a new version of nose to the main archive, which should fix several of his build failures. can you copy these to his test-rebuild-20140108 and put back the following packages: pastedeploy, python-dbusmock, python-oauthlib, python-webob ? (if webob builds okay, then there will be a couple more retries) | 22:25 |
| infinity | barry: If it's already built and in the release pocket, there's nothing to copy. Just some give-backs. | 22:25 |
| barry | infinity: cool. nose 1.3.0-2.1ubuntu1 hasn't been promoted from proposed yet, so i'll wait for that and then ping you for the retries | 22:27 |
| barry | infinity: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nose/1.3.0-2.1ubuntu1 | 22:27 |
| infinity | barry: Yeah, found it. :) | 22:27 |
| barry | :) | 22:27 |
| infinity | barry: Looks like you just got promoted. | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | barry: would you sponsor a cython test fix? | 22:38 |
| jtaylor | I want to get numpy in, but I guess I need to fix cython first :/ | 22:38 |
| jtaylor | at some point we need 0.20 for py3.4 | 22:39 |
| jtaylor | but its not released yet | 22:39 |
| barry | infinity: yay! can you do the give backs? | 22:47 |
| infinity | barry: Once the publisher's done, yeah. | 22:47 |
| barry | jtaylor: sure, i'll take a look | 22:47 |
| barry | infinity: thanks | 22:48 |
| barry | jtaylor: if you tell me where to look ;) | 22:49 |
| jtaylor | its not done yet, just checking if some one would look at it | 22:49 |
| barry | jtaylor: ah, okay. nearing eod but i'll be here for a little while longer | 22:50 |
| jtaylor | I'll file a merge tomorrow, won't get a build done today anymore, takes about 3 hours :/ | 22:50 |
| barry | jtaylor: lucky for you i'm also piloting tomorrow :) | 22:51 |
| jtaylor | are there any plans to backport a way to get the multiarch tag to precise? | 22:55 |
| jtaylor | I'm guessing no, but it makes it impossible to propose sane fixes to upstreams :/ | 22:56 |
| jtaylor | *from python | 22:56 |
| infinity | barry: Those 4 seemed to be much happier. | 22:59 |
| barry | infinity: awesome, thanks. will look in a sec | 22:59 |
| barry | infinity: looking good! can you retry cinder (might work with the new webob now) | 23:07 |
| infinity | barry: That's not going to work. The rebuild archive doesn't rebuild against itself, only against the primary archive (it throws away the binaries). | 23:08 |
| infinity | barry: But if the goal here is to make these all have py3.4 support, perhaps some archive uploads are in order? | 23:08 |
| barry | infinity: ah, didn't know that. yep, i'll take it from here. thanks | 23:09 |
| apb1963 | Setting up google-chrome-stable (32.0.1700.77-1) ... | 23:54 |
| apb1963 | /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst: 26: /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst: update-desktop-database: not found | 23:54 |
| apb1963 | oops. Sorry | 23:54 |
| apb1963 | Wrong button | 23:54 |
| apb1963 | Does anyone know how to update Qt to a later version? Kubuntu 12.04.3, KDE 4.12.0, Qt 4.8.2 | 23:54 |
| apb1963 | In reference to | 23:57 |
| apb1963 | Setting up google-chrome-stable (32.0.1700.77-1) ... | 23:57 |
| apb1963 | /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst: 26: /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst: update-desktop-database: not found | 23:57 |
| apb1963 | dammit | 23:57 |
| apb1963 | In reference to: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329793 | 23:57 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 329793 in general "Krash!" [Crash,Resolved: upstream] | 23:57 |
| apb1963 | Which just happened to me again now. | 23:58 |
| sarnold | apb1963: yikes. if you do replace your qt with upstreams, you're going to be on one funky system... | 23:59 |
| sarnold | apb1963: have you filed the bug against ubuntu yet? | 23:59 |
| apb1963 | Well, it seems my system is already funky | 23:59 |
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