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darkxsthmm00:13
roastednevermind it fially failed00:16
roastedafter like 15 minutes00:16
roasteddarkxst: updated00:20
darkxstnothing much useful there00:22
darkxstcan you try running 'scp-dbus-service --debug'00:23
darkxstand log that while adding printer00:23
roasteddarkxst: it tanked before it failed/completed. Still sitting @ "installing" but the log timed out - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6747821/00:33
darkxstyou probably need to launch it, then quickly add the printer00:34
roastedhow do you mean? launch system settings >> printer first or launch the command?00:35
darkxsthave the printer panel open00:36
darkxsterr no00:36
darkxsthave g-c-c open00:36
darkxstlaunch scp-dbus00:37
darkxstand open printer panel + try add printer00:37
darkxstyou may need to increase the timeout in :00:38
darkxst/usr/share/system-config-printer/scp-dbus-service.py00:38
darkxstalso what printer do you have?'00:46
roastedI tried both of my printers - wireless Epson Workforce 435, and a wired HP Laserjet 2100n00:46
darkxstroasted, another thing to try, is `dbus-monitor --session`01:13
darkxstwe need to find out what is causing the timeout, since it is not g-c-c01:18
darkxstrobert_ancell, https://github.com/darkxst/displayconfig/ is basically done apart from cleaning up configure and deps01:19
robert_ancelldarkxst, nice01:21
darkxstg-s-d/u-c-c will need a patch or two backported01:21
darkxstidle monitor api is unchanged, but the xrandr api changed slightly01:23
roasteddarkxst: I have logs coming. It hasn't tanked but it's been trying to install for 20-some odd minutes now. Trying to hold out for it to fail to see if anything relevant comes out of the tail end of it.02:03
roastedannnnd it failed just now, ha02:04
roastedhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6748141/02:05
darkxstroasted, any idea where the hang occured in that log?03:43
darkxstalso attach that log too the bug03:43
roasteddarkxst: I don't recall seeing anymore text populating the terminal window the second that it said "installing"03:43
roastedand did nothing else beyond that until it ultimately failed03:43
darkxstso it hung after that log there finished?03:44
darkxstroasted, also grab `dbus-monitor --session` then04:06
roasteddarkxst: the log populated fully almost instantly, but I also clicked add printer >> laserjet almost instantly as well. That's where it stopped and it sat there forever.04:48
roasteddarkxst: I'll have to do this tomorrow. I'm back in unity now working on a few last minute things before bed. :(04:48
darkxstdbus-monitor logs alls dbus messages, however the last few before it froze could provide a good hint!04:52
roastedwell shucks, now you got me curious04:55
roasteddarkxst: if I relog here to ubuntu gnome, I'll be on the web client. Can you re-paste that command when I come back?04:55
darkxstyeh04:55
roastedthanks. brb.04:56
roastedcancel that. shared home dir. quassel retained everything.04:56
roastedsec04:56
roastedthere's a ton of activity populating...04:57
roastedlooks like a lot of strings with path to picture files04:58
roastedthis is weird. song files and everything.04:58
darkxstthat will be something else04:58
roastedwant me to just CTRL C it and paste the log?04:59
darkxstmaybe wait for it to settle down, before trying to add printer04:59
roastedk04:59
roasteddarkxst: itcalmed down once it hit "installing.." instead of wiating 20 minutes I just copied it a while http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748695/05:02
darkxstthat last call there is GetBestDrivers, but there is no response05:08
darkxstroasted what version g-c-c do you use ?05:12
roasteddarkxst: not sure.I have since rebooted to finish this up. It's a stock install of 13.10 with 3.10 ppa05:13
darkxst-staging?05:13
roastedyes05:14
roastedgnome3 and gnome3-staging05:14
darkxstits 3.10 then05:14
darkxstwill try and get the s-c-p dev's to look into it05:15
darkxstricotz, hi07:14
ricotzdarkxst, hi07:15
darkxstI have nearly done, sorting out the display config mess to unblock gnome-desktop update07:16
darkxst(it will be a new package providing a standalone d-bus service)07:17
darkxstany chance you could re-merge gnome-desktop, g-s-d and g-c-c 3.10?07:17
ricotzdarkxst, oh, which means? it provides the old functionality in parallel?07:18
darkxstit means we can update gnome-desktop to 3.1007:19
darkxstalthough it will need to be NEW'd and MIR'd first07:19
ricotzok, but what did you change?07:19
darkxstI pulled out display config and idle monitor services from mutter and put them into a standalone daemon07:20
darkxst(only used for non-shell DE's)07:20
darkxstricotz, https://github.com/darkxst/displayconfig/07:20
darkxst(configure.ac and build-deps still need to be cleaned up though)07:22
ricotzhmm, i see07:22
ricotz(there are also a lot of generated/copied buildsys-files which you can drop from the vcs)07:22
ricotzdarkxst, ok, great! seems good, i guess you already have it running?07:27
darkxstricotz, yes, have tested against 3.10 g-s-d/g-c-c w/out mutter and works well07:28
darkxstricotz, also talking with upstream about remove gnome-desktop dep from all apps, in which case the legacy DE's could use a forked gnome-desktop07:38
darkxstbut that won't likely happen for Trusty07:38
ggvaberihello. I need to write bash script and need some gnome theme setting. for example icon-theme. I use gsettings command for it but not sure if this command is stable part of gnome. can i use this command and be sure that it will come with gnome always?09:55
muelliheya. I'm a bit confused. Can I make a "Ubuntu GNOME" from a "regular" Ubuntu by added a PPA and installing some packages?10:21
mgedminmuelli, yes12:18
mgedminI can't find an official page for this12:21
mgedminit's more or less the same as in this blog post: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html12:21
mgedmininstall the metapackages, add the PPA12:21
muellimgedmin: thanks. It's not clear from that web page that it would result in the very same thing that installing Ubuntu GNOME would give you. I'd appreciate an information as to how to upgrade your existing Ubuntu installation somewhere on the Ubuntu GNOME pages.12:27
mgedminso would I12:27
mgedminI followed those instructions back in 12.10 and then just kept upgrading and re-adding the PPA12:27
mgedminif I had time I might install ubuntu gnome in a VM, then install ubuntu and convert it to ubuntu gnome in a 2nd vm, then use apt-show-versions to get a dump of all the packages and compare those12:28
mgedminmaybe even mount the disk images and compare them directly, while ignoring /var12:28
mgedminif I had time...12:29
Pierre_hi all.17:18
Pierre_i can't seem to turn recommendations in software center on ubuntu-gnome 13.10?17:19
Pierre_can anyone tell if its a bug or am i doing something wrong?17:20
tmusHi guys, it seems like Network Manager Gnome of Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 (and the ppas) all have a serious problem with Mobile Broadband devices. Known issue? Any workaround/fix?17:59
tmusThe problem is that the Mobile broadband entry in the NM menu disappears, ModemManager crashes once in a while and even though it will sometimes establish a 3G connection, it's not easy or even predictable when it happens18:00
tmusIt seems to be the same for Ubuntu GNOME with or without the gnome-next  repos enabvled - and even for Archlinux based on quick tests... Fedora is better (connect/disconnect reliable) but the new network config editor is still in bad shape for mobile broadband18:05
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