[00:13] <darkxst> hmm
[00:16] <roasted> nevermind it fially failed
[00:16] <roasted> after like 15 minutes
[00:20] <roasted> darkxst: updated
[00:22] <darkxst> nothing much useful there
[00:23] <darkxst> can you try running 'scp-dbus-service --debug'
[00:23] <darkxst> and log that while adding printer
[00:33] <roasted> darkxst: it tanked before it failed/completed. Still sitting @ "installing" but the log timed out - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6747821/
[00:34] <darkxst> you probably need to launch it, then quickly add the printer
[00:35] <roasted> how do you mean? launch system settings >> printer first or launch the command?
[00:36] <darkxst> have the printer panel open
[00:36] <darkxst> err no
[00:36] <darkxst> have g-c-c open
[00:37] <darkxst> launch scp-dbus
[00:37] <darkxst> and open printer panel + try add printer
[00:38] <darkxst> you may need to increase the timeout in :
[00:38] <darkxst> /usr/share/system-config-printer/scp-dbus-service.py
[00:46] <darkxst> also what printer do you have?'
[00:46] <roasted> I tried both of my printers - wireless Epson Workforce 435, and a wired HP Laserjet 2100n
[01:13] <darkxst> roasted, another thing to try, is `dbus-monitor --session`
[01:18] <darkxst> we need to find out what is causing the timeout, since it is not g-c-c
[01:19] <darkxst> robert_ancell, https://github.com/darkxst/displayconfig/ is basically done apart from cleaning up configure and deps
[01:21] <robert_ancell> darkxst, nice
[01:21] <darkxst> g-s-d/u-c-c will need a patch or two backported
[01:23] <darkxst> idle monitor api is unchanged, but the xrandr api changed slightly
[02:03] <roasted> darkxst: I have logs coming. It hasn't tanked but it's been trying to install for 20-some odd minutes now. Trying to hold out for it to fail to see if anything relevant comes out of the tail end of it.
[02:04] <roasted> annnnd it failed just now, ha
[02:05] <roasted> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748141/
[03:43] <darkxst> roasted, any idea where the hang occured in that log?
[03:43] <darkxst> also attach that log too the bug
[03:43] <roasted> darkxst: I don't recall seeing anymore text populating the terminal window the second that it said "installing"
[03:43] <roasted> and did nothing else beyond that until it ultimately failed
[03:44] <darkxst> so it hung after that log there finished?
[04:06] <darkxst> roasted, also grab `dbus-monitor --session` then
[04:48] <roasted> darkxst: the log populated fully almost instantly, but I also clicked add printer >> laserjet almost instantly as well. That's where it stopped and it sat there forever.
[04:48] <roasted> darkxst: I'll have to do this tomorrow. I'm back in unity now working on a few last minute things before bed. :(
[04:52] <darkxst> dbus-monitor logs alls dbus messages, however the last few before it froze could provide a good hint!
[04:55] <roasted> well shucks, now you got me curious
[04:55] <roasted> darkxst: if I relog here to ubuntu gnome, I'll be on the web client. Can you re-paste that command when I come back?
[04:55] <darkxst> yeh
[04:56] <roasted> thanks. brb.
[04:56] <roasted> cancel that. shared home dir. quassel retained everything.
[04:56] <roasted> sec
[04:57] <roasted> there's a ton of activity populating...
[04:58] <roasted> looks like a lot of strings with path to picture files
[04:58] <roasted> this is weird. song files and everything.
[04:58] <darkxst> that will be something else
[04:59] <roasted> want me to just CTRL C it and paste the log?
[04:59] <darkxst> maybe wait for it to settle down, before trying to add printer
[04:59] <roasted> k
[05:02] <roasted> darkxst: itcalmed down once it hit "installing.." instead of wiating 20 minutes I just copied it a while http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748695/
[05:08] <darkxst> that last call there is GetBestDrivers, but there is no response
[05:12] <darkxst> roasted what version g-c-c do you use ?
[05:13] <roasted> darkxst: not sure.I have since rebooted to finish this up. It's a stock install of 13.10 with 3.10 ppa
[05:13] <darkxst> -staging?
[05:14] <roasted> yes
[05:14] <roasted> gnome3 and gnome3-staging
[05:14] <darkxst> its 3.10 then
[05:15] <darkxst> will try and get the s-c-p dev's to look into it
[07:14] <darkxst> ricotz, hi
[07:15] <ricotz> darkxst, hi
[07:16] <darkxst> I have nearly done, sorting out the display config mess to unblock gnome-desktop update
[07:17] <darkxst> (it will be a new package providing a standalone d-bus service)
[07:17] <darkxst> any chance you could re-merge gnome-desktop, g-s-d and g-c-c 3.10?
[07:18] <ricotz> darkxst, oh, which means? it provides the old functionality in parallel?
[07:19] <darkxst> it means we can update gnome-desktop to 3.10
[07:19] <darkxst> although it will need to be NEW'd and MIR'd first
[07:19] <ricotz> ok, but what did you change?
[07:20] <darkxst> I pulled out display config and idle monitor services from mutter and put them into a standalone daemon
[07:20] <darkxst> (only used for non-shell DE's)
[07:20] <darkxst> ricotz, https://github.com/darkxst/displayconfig/
[07:22] <darkxst> (configure.ac and build-deps still need to be cleaned up though)
[07:22] <ricotz> hmm, i see
[07:22] <ricotz> (there are also a lot of generated/copied buildsys-files which you can drop from the vcs)
[07:27] <ricotz> darkxst, ok, great! seems good, i guess you already have it running?
[07:28] <darkxst> ricotz, yes, have tested against 3.10 g-s-d/g-c-c w/out mutter and works well
[07:38] <darkxst> ricotz, also talking with upstream about remove gnome-desktop dep from all apps, in which case the legacy DE's could use a forked gnome-desktop
[07:38] <darkxst> but that won't likely happen for Trusty
[09:55] <ggvaberi> hello. I need to write bash script and need some gnome theme setting. for example icon-theme. I use gsettings command for it but not sure if this command is stable part of gnome. can i use this command and be sure that it will come with gnome always?
[10:21] <muelli> heya. I'm a bit confused. Can I make a "Ubuntu GNOME" from a "regular" Ubuntu by added a PPA and installing some packages?
[12:18] <mgedmin> muelli, yes
[12:21] <mgedmin> I can't find an official page for this
[12:21] <mgedmin> it's more or less the same as in this blog post: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[12:21] <mgedmin> install the metapackages, add the PPA
[12:27] <muelli> mgedmin: thanks. It's not clear from that web page that it would result in the very same thing that installing Ubuntu GNOME would give you. I'd appreciate an information as to how to upgrade your existing Ubuntu installation somewhere on the Ubuntu GNOME pages.
[12:27] <mgedmin> so would I
[12:27] <mgedmin> I followed those instructions back in 12.10 and then just kept upgrading and re-adding the PPA
[12:28] <mgedmin> if I had time I might install ubuntu gnome in a VM, then install ubuntu and convert it to ubuntu gnome in a 2nd vm, then use apt-show-versions to get a dump of all the packages and compare those
[12:28] <mgedmin> maybe even mount the disk images and compare them directly, while ignoring /var
[12:29] <mgedmin> if I had time...
[17:18] <Pierre_> hi all.
[17:19] <Pierre_> i can't seem to turn recommendations in software center on ubuntu-gnome 13.10?
[17:20] <Pierre_> can anyone tell if its a bug or am i doing something wrong?
[17:59] <tmus> Hi guys, it seems like Network Manager Gnome of Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 (and the ppas) all have a serious problem with Mobile Broadband devices. Known issue? Any workaround/fix?
[18:00] <tmus> The problem is that the Mobile broadband entry in the NM menu disappears, ModemManager crashes once in a while and even though it will sometimes establish a 3G connection, it's not easy or even predictable when it happens
[18:05] <tmus> It seems to be the same for Ubuntu GNOME with or without the gnome-next  repos enabvled - and even for Archlinux based on quick tests... Fedora is better (connect/disconnect reliable) but the new network config editor is still in bad shape for mobile broadband
[18:33] <Uallas> Hello World!