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| yolanda | jamespage, the nova-compute-vmware package is correctly tested? i'm having errors when installing nova-compute package after nova-compute-vmware has been installed | 12:25 |
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| yolanda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750184/ | 12:26 |
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| yolanda | jamespage, i saw my problem is related with that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1062336 | 12:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1062336 in nova "nova-compute expects libvirtd group" [High,Triaged] | 12:36 |
| jamespage | yolanda, its untested | 12:36 |
| yolanda | but there is a won't fix from your side , can you explain me why? | 12:36 |
| jamespage | and its a hack for < icehouse | 12:36 |
| jamespage | yolanda, that's actually fix commited for trusty | 12:36 |
| yolanda | ok, i'm testing that on precise machines | 12:37 |
| yolanda | jamespage, testing with that version from cloud archive: 1:2013.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 12:38 |
| yolanda | that needs updating? | 12:38 |
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| jamespage | yolanda, I suspect it needs a workaround in that charm for the moment | 12:40 |
| yolanda | just create the group manually? | 12:40 |
| jamespage | yolanda, its going to be horrible - something like creating the group manually | 12:40 |
| jamespage | but just for < icehouse | 12:40 |
| jamespage | yolanda, the objective is to get this charm running in LXC containers so that we can nest them in amongst other openstack services | 12:41 |
| yolanda | you meant that installing these package is a workaround for icehouse? what changes in icehouse? | 12:41 |
| jamespage | yolanda, the next drop of icehouse packages fix this | 12:41 |
| yolanda | the group issue, you mean | 12:41 |
| jamespage | nova-compute no longer depends on libvirt | 12:41 |
| yolanda | ok | 12:41 |
| yolanda | got it | 12:41 |
| jamespage | we have a nova-compute-libvirt package | 12:41 |
| jamespage | which -kvm etc.. depend on | 12:41 |
| yolanda | ok, i'll create the group just for < icehouse | 12:42 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, OK if I assign you some other maas related MIR stuff? | 12:45 |
| jamespage | yolanda, fancy doing an MIR alongside your charm work? | 13:02 |
| jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fping/+bug/1268920 | 13:02 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1268920 in qstat "[MIR] fping and qstat, recommends of nagios-plugins" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:02 |
| jamespage | (its good distro experience) | 13:02 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: please do! | 13:05 |
| zul | jamespage: beanstalk got fixed so ill kick off the builds in the lab as well | 13:08 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pycountry/+bug/1268915 | 13:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1268915 in python-dns "[MIR] pycountry and python-dns, b-d's of python-formencode" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:25 |
| jamespage | ta | 13:25 |
| jamespage | zul, good-oh | 13:25 |
| jamespage | zul, how are we looking for b2 generally? | 13:25 |
| yolanda | jamespage, ok | 13:25 |
| jamespage | yolanda, thanks! | 13:25 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: thanks! | 13:25 |
| zul | jamespage: ill let you know today | 13:28 |
| zul | jamespage: fping and qstat was not part of nagios-plugins at one point we specifically disabled them at one point | 13:29 |
| jamespage | zul, oh - so that might have got re-enabled? | 13:29 |
| jamespage | yolanda, ^^ | 13:29 |
| zul | jamespage: qstat - Command-line tool for querying quake (and other) servers ;) | 13:29 |
| jamespage | zul, oh ffs | 13:29 |
| jamespage | yolanda, thats probably actually a package update for nagios to drop those deps | 13:30 |
| jamespage | yolanda, I think that got missed on the last merge (I'll let you read the changelog :-)) | 13:31 |
| yolanda | so i should do the MIR for those 2 packages, and drop then from nagios, right? | 13:31 |
| zul | jamespage: i feel like abraham simpson now | 13:34 |
| * zul ties an obion to his belt | 13:34 | |
| zul | onion even | 13:34 |
| jamespage | yolanda, no - fixup the package and mark those bug reports as invalid | 13:36 |
| jamespage | yolanda, I think the problem is that they are reverse-recommends of nagios-plugins-standard | 13:37 |
| jamespage | yolanda, xnox did an update on the previous ubuntu version to make them depends of the -extra package which is in universe | 13:38 |
| yolanda | and this got lost? i need to take a look at the packages to know about them | 13:39 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: hey! so I seek your advice. The latest kombu Depends on python-librabbitmq | python-amqp. This preference over librabbitmq causes that when celery (used by MAAS) install kombu, it installs librabbitmq by default causing celery to crash, meaning a broken MAAS | 13:40 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, I'm assuming celery does not like librabbitmq then? | 13:41 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: so, given that we also use kombu for openstack, do you think we should make a strong preference for python-amqp over python-librabbitmq (as in Depends on python-amqp | python-librabbitmq ? ) | 13:41 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: you are correct! | 13:41 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: i can work around it in MAAS by depending on python-amqp and possibly conflicting with python-librabbitmq, however, I'm concern of the effect it could also have in openstack the fact that its preference is python-librabbitmq | 13:42 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, hmm | 13:44 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, why does celery crash? | 13:44 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, librabbitmq provides native bindings so should be more performant | 13:45 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750300/ | 13:46 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, well surely that is a bug? | 13:48 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: it is indeed. rvba has been looking at it, and it seems he can't figure out why it doesn't like librabbitmq | 13:49 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, https://github.com/celery/librabbitmq/commit/3bacd49cdfaa77a318f99b4f02fabe6bf73301a9 | 13:51 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, we are a couple of point releases out-of-date - I'd suggest updating to 1.0.3 and re-testing | 13:52 |
| jamespage | 1.0.2 includes that fix | 13:52 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, funny - I can't actually reproduce that issue | 13:55 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: uhmm weird.. we have lab integration tests failing because of that | 13:56 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, I'd recommend the bump anyway | 13:56 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: will do :) thanks for the input | 13:58 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, np | 13:58 |
| roaksoax | rvba: ^^ | 14:03 |
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| zul | jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/ftbfs-jan14/+merge/201600 | 14:53 |
| jamespage | zul, why's the tests failing? | 14:54 |
| zul | jamespage: sqlalchemy | 14:55 |
| zul | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1269008 | 14:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269008 in nova "Icehouse failing with sqlalchemy 0.8.3" [Undecided,New] | 14:55 |
| jamespage | zul, I think I saw the same in neutron actually | 14:56 |
| jamespage | zul, i'd rather we did not ignore that test error | 14:56 |
| jamespage | its actually quite badly broken | 14:56 |
| jamespage | so we should fix it properly rather than by-passing the tests IMHO | 14:56 |
| zul | jamespage: not surprising i think the db stuff is being synched from oslo-incubator | 14:56 |
| zul | jamespage: yeah i totally agree but sqlalchemy is not my strong suit | 14:57 |
| jamespage | zul, SQLAlchemy>=0.7.8,<=0.7.99 | 14:58 |
| jamespage | so they won't have seen this upstream right? | 14:58 |
| zul | nope | 14:58 |
| zul | the mirantis guys usually care about sqlalchemy 0.8 | 14:58 |
| zul | jamespage: also seeing this at the end of builds http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6750843/ | 15:02 |
| jamespage | zul, oh - ignore that | 15:03 |
| jamespage | thats jenkins | 15:03 |
| zul | jamespage: its causing the redballs though ;) | 15:03 |
| smoser | jamespage, can you quick sanity check http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750876/ | 15:04 |
| smoser | just that the format of the commit is right. | 15:04 |
| jamespage | zul, dang | 15:04 |
| smoser | thats debian/source/format 1.0 and i've not done anything like that in quite a while. | 15:04 |
| jamespage | smoser, looks ok | 15:05 |
| jamespage | 1.0 urhg | 15:05 |
| jamespage | smoser, zul: can you sanity check this for me - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750912/ | 15:13 |
| zul | jamespage: looks ok | 15:14 |
| smoser | jamespage, do you not need any version checking in the postinst/postrm on the mv_conffile ? | 15:16 |
| smoser | i gues because the older version wouldn't exist if you'd already done it. | 15:16 |
| smoser | and i'm guessing mv_conffile does something sane if the new name exists already. | 15:17 |
| jamespage | smoser, I think that the helper handles that all - hence the pass of "$@" | 15:17 |
| smoser | jamespage, well i dont know how it could possibly know that. | 15:17 |
| smoser | it wouldn't have any idea what version supported the new confi file and what supported the old. | 15:17 |
| jamespage | thats passed as a param | 15:17 |
| smoser | ah. ok. i was thinking that was just a old-conf extension. | 15:18 |
| smoser | that makes sense then. | 15:18 |
| jamespage | smoser, coolio | 15:23 |
| * jamespage waits for 25 mins to be able to test | 15:23 | |
| yolanda | do we have some rationaly for fping and qstat, or some main reasons why we want a MIR? | 15:27 |
| jamespage | yolanda, they don't need to be MIR'ed | 15:29 |
| jamespage | yolanda, just drop them from the Recommends on the -standard package | 15:29 |
| yolanda | oh, i misunderstood it | 15:29 |
| yolanda | easier then | 15:29 |
| jamespage | yolanda, the mir was raised automatically | 15:29 |
| jamespage | yolanda, however it should not be required | 15:30 |
| yolanda | ok, understand now | 15:30 |
| jamespage | zul, fixing up plugins on the jenkins server now | 15:42 |
| zul | jamespage: ack thanks | 15:42 |
| zul | jamespage: i have a fix for the nova problem | 15:47 |
| jamespage | zul, OK _ I think jenkins is fixed now | 15:51 |
| zul | jamespage: cool thanks | 15:51 |
| jamespage | zul, out of date plugins | 15:52 |
| jamespage | for the version in raring at least | 15:52 |
| jamespage | zul, OK - better | 15:53 |
| zul | jamespage: coolio | 15:54 |
| yolanda | sent debdiff here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fping/+bug/1268920 | 15:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1268920 in qstat "[MIR] fping and qstat, recommends of nagios-plugins" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:57 |
| paco1 | hi folks! | 16:10 |
| paco1 | i have an issue with my new openldap servers on ubuntu 12.04.3 x64 > (Too Many Open Files). I put on "/etc/security/limits.conf" "* hard nofile 4096" but when it comes at 1800 (with lsof | wc -l comand), it's the same > (Too Many Open Files). | 16:13 |
| paco1 | with ulimit comand, come back to 1024 after a reboot | 16:16 |
| jamespage | zul, 585M | 16:36 |
| zul | jamespage: hmm? | 16:36 |
| jamespage | zul, size of the server iso now! | 16:36 |
| zul | jamespage: wtf? | 16:36 |
| jamespage | zul: I applied the seed changes to drop a load of stuff | 16:37 |
| zul | jamespage: ah good...maybe we can get it smaller :) | 16:37 |
| zul | jamespage: i need to do the MIR for workflow | 16:38 |
| zul | er...taskflow | 16:38 |
| paco1 | if anyone can help me, thanks! | 16:39 |
| paco1 | how can i grow the nomber of open files that by defaults it's 1024? | 16:53 |
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| TheLordOfTime | what's ulimit -N and why isn't it documented in the manpage? | 16:54 |
| glosoli | hey folks, any ideas how could one edit PATH in Ubuntu server with no user available except root ? | 16:56 |
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| glosoli | I am not sure where the bashrc belongs | 16:56 |
| hitsujiTMO | glosoli: as in the global PATH? that should be in /etc/environment | 17:03 |
| psivaa | hallyn: bug #1269073 is for tomcat failure that i said in the meeting | 17:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269073 in tomcat7 "test_tomcat_daemon smoke test failure on images with 3.13 kernel " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1269073 | 17:03 |
| glosoli | hitsujiTMO: Oh thanks sir, is it safe to add smth in there ? | 17:03 |
| hallyn | psivaa: ok, i think jamespage sounded interested | 17:03 |
| jamespage | thanks hallyn | 17:03 |
| psivaa | hallyn: ohh, ack. sorry about that | 17:03 |
| jamespage | psivaa, trying to reproduce that but I can't locally | 17:04 |
| hitsujiTMO | glosoli: as long as you don't break it. a malformed PATH will cause major headaches. | 17:04 |
| psivaa | jamespage: i installed manually and was able to reproduce | 17:04 |
| glosoli | hitsujiTMO; ok thanks mr | 17:04 |
| psivaa | jamespage: the issue is only with images 20140109 onwards | 17:05 |
| hitsujiTMO | glosoli: is it just for one user you want to change or for all users? | 17:05 |
| jamespage | psivaa, looking that that bug report the control port is not listening | 17:05 |
| jamespage | 8005 normally | 17:05 |
| jamespage | on 127.0.0.1 | 17:05 |
| psivaa | right. when i downgraded the kernel it did | 17:05 |
| glosoli | hitsujiTMO: I am the only one behind administrating this my very private server for hosting stuff to show others, and there is only one user which is root and I see no point of creating new user | 17:05 |
| glosoli | it's mostly experiment usage like | 17:06 |
| glosoli | to deploy project, to check how it works and bla bla | 17:06 |
| glosoli | I am not sys admin, just some young dev, trying to play with deploying of stuff | 17:06 |
| hitsujiTMO | glosoli: then maybe have it in /root/.profile as: PATH=/path/to/new/path:$PATH | 17:06 |
| glosoli | hitsujiTMO: aaa I see, thanks! | 17:07 |
| hitsujiTMO | glosoli: even just when playing around you should use a normal user with sudo priviledges. Its a much more secure way of doing things | 17:07 |
| glosoli | hitsujiTMO: I do understand that, though if someone hacks your server, they probably have all the knowledge to go all the way through, consider is just for testing purposes, I don't see anyone interested in it, at least now, maybe I am just naive | 17:09 |
| hitsujiTMO | glosoli: even a tersting server someone will want to hack. they'll want it so they can run their own software on it, may it be spam software or a bot net or what not | 17:09 |
| glosoli | I see, it's just for ~4 days I hope it goes well hmm | 17:10 |
| jamespage | psivaa, is the securerandom stuff taking longer that normal under 3.13 | 17:11 |
| jamespage | psivaa, INFO: Creation of SecureRandom instance for session ID generation using [SHA1PRNG] took [87,453] milliseconds. | 17:11 |
| jamespage | and I pushed that in by install havegd | 17:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | what's `ulimit -N` for, and why isn't it documented in the manpage? anyone know? | 17:15 |
| jamespage | smb, can you take a glance at bug 1269073 | 17:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269073 in tomcat7 "test_tomcat_daemon smoke test failure on images with 3.13 kernel " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1269073 | 17:15 |
| jamespage | it appears related to the 3.13 kernel bump | 17:15 |
| smb | jamespage, yeah, can have a look | 17:16 |
| jamespage | smb, thanks - anything that might cause less entropy in /dev/random in virtual machines is probably relevant | 17:16 |
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| smb | jamespage, Ok, well just something in a minor kernel version update... :) | 17:18 |
| jamespage | smb, I'm sure you will find it easy to ID the issue and resolve :-) | 17:18 |
| rbasak | smoser: your thoughts on bug 1258113 please? | 17:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258113 in cloud-init "Cannot determine boot-finished state reliably" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258113 | 17:20 |
| semiosis | jamespage: ping | 17:24 |
| semiosis | jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~semiosis/ubuntu/trusty/glusterfs/fix-for-1268064 | 17:24 |
| jamespage | semiosis, hello | 17:24 |
| semiosis | hi! i made a merge proposal. it includes an update to the new (latest) glusterfs release, and also updates the upstart stuff | 17:25 |
| semiosis | i figured out the instance line issue btw | 17:25 |
| jamespage | semiosis, I think you forgot to add the mounting-glusterfs upstart job to your branch | 17:28 |
| semiosis | uhhh | 17:29 |
| semiosis | pretty sure i built & tested this | 17:29 |
| semiosis | let me check | 17:29 |
| semiosis | wow, how did that happen | 17:30 |
| jamespage | :-) | 17:31 |
| semiosis | my change to the rules file was committed, and the glusterfs-server.mounting-glusterfs.upstart file was removed & re-added verbatim, instead of the glusterfs-server.mounting-glusterfs.upstart being added | 17:31 |
| semiosis | i mean instead of the glusterfs-client.mounting-glusterfs.upstart being added | 17:32 |
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| semiosis | looking at my working dir and i have the right stuff here... so the test build i did with pbuilder was correct. somehow the commit/push didnt include this change | 17:34 |
| semiosis | i never ran bzr add on the new file! | 17:35 |
| psivaa | smb: the raid1 installation issue that we are seeing after 3.13 is reported in bug #1269086 | 17:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269086 in linux "RAID1 installations fail to complete on trusty server images with 3.13 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1269086 | 17:37 |
| semiosis | jamespage: ok i wasnt reading the diff correctly in regards to the glusterfs-server.mounting-glusterfs.upstart being re-added verbatim. it was removed as it should have been | 17:39 |
| semiosis | i've pushed a new commit with the glusterfs-client.mounting-glusterfs.upstart file, the diff shows it now | 17:39 |
| smb | psivaa, Thanks | 17:39 |
| semiosis | thx for catching this! | 17:40 |
| smb | jamespage, psivaa For the tomcat thing... Not really sure whether I just look in the wrong place... Where would be any kernel messages during the daemon start (if there are any)? | 17:43 |
| semiosis | jamespage: fixed. https://code.launchpad.net/~semiosis/ubuntu/trusty/glusterfs/fix-for-1268064/+merge/201280 | 17:44 |
| jamespage | semiosis, yup - got it | 17:45 |
| semiosis | ok great | 17:45 |
| psivaa | smb: i could not find any specific kernel messages for this in syslog, or kern.log | 17:46 |
| jamespage | semiosis, might be tomorrow before i get to upload but looks good | 17:49 |
| semiosis | thats great! thanks :D | 17:49 |
| semiosis | jamespage: this was a lot easier than i remember it being back in 2012 | 17:50 |
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| jamespage | semiosis, uploaded - thanks! | 17:57 |
| semiosis | wow that was fast | 17:57 |
| semiosis | you're welcome | 17:57 |
| semiosis | jamespage: should i set the bug to Fix Released now? | 17:58 |
| jamespage | semiosis, that will happen automatically | 17:59 |
| semiosis | oh nice! | 17:59 |
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| mndo | hi! I am trying to configure openldap to use ssl but these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecuringOpenLDAPConnections instructions don't work, anyone has any pointers to put me in the right path? Thank you | 18:12 |
| psivaa | smb: jamespage: fyi, port 8005 in fact starts to listen in about 14+ mins after the reboot. checked once. could try a few more times to see the timing if that helps | 18:14 |
| psivaa | rewtraw: the tomcat issue that is | 18:14 |
| smb | psivaa, I think before spending too much time on those two bugs, there is currently a newer kernel which is still in proposed. Could you re-run the two tests when 3.13.0-3.18 or later becomes current. And if problems persist with that I go back looking at them. | 18:14 |
| psivaa | smb: ok, if that's in -proposed i could test that | 18:15 |
| smb | psivaa, Yes it sits in proposed right now | 18:16 |
| biggdadd73 | join #ubuntu | 18:31 |
| rharper | smoser: looking for some help debugging maas-import-ephemerals importing trusty images from the daily stream; right now maas-import-ephemerals doesn't print anything and returns 0; but it doesn't download the trusty image into /var/lib/maas/ephemeral | 18:54 |
| Kaffien | anyone here with setting up a scsi target on ubuntu server? | 19:12 |
| Kaffien | iscsci | 19:12 |
| zanzacar | My work is finally making the switch from being a Novel server to a ubuntu server. Everything seems to be going alright but the higher ups are worried about tech support/IT support if one of us set up the server and then there isn't anyone to support it if there is any problems. Does anyone know if any Ubuntu/Linux tech support to reassure the higher ups? | 19:12 |
| Kaffien | darnit i meant iscsi. | 19:12 |
| genii | zanzacar: You can find out about paid support for Ubuntu Server here: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/management ( anywhere from $320-$1200 USD annually) . There's also always this channel where you can ask for free. | 19:17 |
| smoser | rharper, it probably thinks it has stuff in /var/lib/maas/ephemeral/.[something] | 19:19 |
| smoser | which it shouldnht have. | 19:19 |
| smoser | genii, that was a really good answer to zanzacar's question. | 19:19 |
| smoser | thanks. | 19:19 |
| psivaa | smb: the tomcat issue is still present with kernel version 3.13.0-3.18 | 19:21 |
| sarnold | zanzacar: paid or unpaid, you can also files bugs into launchpad using 'ubuntu-bug' | 19:21 |
| genii | smoser: Maybe I should make a factoid containing the essential for future use :) | 19:24 |
| zanzacar | genii: Thanks I did see that but when I contacted them it doesn't seem to be for one off servers and more like larger scale things. | 19:25 |
| genii | zanzacar: Most times answers can be had here in the channel for many questions. Did you speak to a Canonical representative in person, or by email, etc, about your specific needs? | 19:27 |
| zanzacar | I have my own server at home. I think it is great, I also find this channel very helpful as well. The higher ups want to be able to pay al-a-carte for support as they seem fit. ( Mainly emergencies ). We really are a small firm ( 4 people ) using minor server needs mainly just a file server. | 19:29 |
| zanzacar | Its the higher up that want something to help ease their feelings about going this route. Linux to them is a proprietary weird thing that they will never be able to get anyone to work on if I left. So if I can just show them there are people out there that are reasonably trained I can move forward essentially. | 19:30 |
| zanzacar | I tried to look up San Diego Linux Support and I can't seem to find very many tech/computer repair places that meet my needs. | 19:33 |
| sarnold | zanzacar: it's true that landscape would probably not that useful with only a single machine, but I would hope that the rest of the support and services for a single machine would be pretty straightforward if you wanted it.. | 19:33 |
| genii | zanzacar: Canonical has certification programs with Linux Professional Institute ( www.lpi.org/ ) , If you contact one of their regional people for your area, they may be able to help you find a qualified person which you can hire on an as-needed basis. | 19:35 |
| sarnold | zanzacar: that's not a big surprise; I suspect most linux experts would be professional system administrators or "devops" depending upon if they like the new lingo :) -- I suspect you might be able to find someone through a local users group or stack exchange careers -- the folks behind askubuntu.com | 19:35 |
| genii | ( alternately, get someone in the company certified by them) | 19:35 |
| zanzacar | genii: Excellent certified and everything. I will look into lpi.org. I would get certified but that doesn't help the company if I leave. | 19:36 |
| TJ- | zanzacar: For ad-hoc don't discount remote admins ... often you can get better skills and lower cost and faster response | 19:36 |
| zanzacar | That is very true. | 19:37 |
| sarnold | which is one of the nice aspects of irc :) free ad-hoc remote debugging advice :) | 19:38 |
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| zanzacar | I have found that ubuntu has one of the better user communities which is also the reason I am suggesting going with this over redhat or a paid for system of sorts. If only it was my choice. | 19:41 |
| zanzacar | Thanks for all the tips/thoughts. | 19:49 |
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| TheLordOfTime | how can I force a time update on a server off a time server | 19:54 |
| hitsujiTMO | TheLordOfTime: ntpupdate ip.of.ntp.server | 19:55 |
| hitsujiTMO | TheLordOfTime: with sudo ofc | 19:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | hitsujiTMO: do i need to worry about it not giving me any output? | 19:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | hitsujiTMO: is there anything I can install to automate this too? | 19:58 |
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| sarnold | some folks shove ntpdate calls into a cronjob, so if one server doesn't respond, they'll get a chance to call another one soon enough | 20:00 |
| hitsujiTMO | TheLordOfTime: set it as a cron job | 20:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | i should've read the server guide, ntpd continually calculates the drift and adjusts it, according to the server guide (12.04) | 20:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | would ntpd work for what I need without me needing to fuss with cron? | 20:02 |
| sarnold | TheLordOfTime: yes, ntpd is preferred if you can use it | 20:06 |
| sarnold | TheLordOfTime: the discontinuous time jumps of ntpdate are best tolerated during early boot; e.g. select(2) timeouts can take longer or shorter than expected if ntpdate jumps the time around | 20:07 |
| TheLordOfTime | sarnold: ntpd should be fine for what I need. | 20:08 |
| sarnold | yay :) use that :) | 20:08 |
| TheLordOfTime | sarnold: purely curious, why is the package that provide ntpd called `ntp` and not `ntpd`? | 20:08 |
| rharper | smoser: I cleaned the dir out; it literally produces no output; I'm trying to just see what's happening; it doesn't appear that the ephemeral_script.py does any logging what so ever, so it's really hard to tell whats going wrong | 20:09 |
| sarnold | TheLordOfTime: guessing, because it provides multiple tools around the network time protocol, and not just the daemon.. | 20:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | sarnold: looks like ntp, ntp-doc, and ntpdate are all part of the same source package, ntp. | 20:10 |
| * TheLordOfTime shrugs | 20:10 | |
| TheLordOfTime | maybe you're right though | 20:10 |
| pmatulis_ | TheLordOfTime: yeah, ntpd or openntpd don't work if the time discrepancy is too large (5 minutes?) | 20:11 |
| smoser | rharper, i haven't looked at it in a while. | 20:11 |
| smoser | that program has all sorts of improvements it could have. | 20:11 |
| rharper | smoser: hehe | 20:11 |
| smoser | i really suspect that it is finding a cache and thinks its "done" | 20:12 |
| TheLordOfTime | pmatulis_: so ntpdate before setting up ntpd is not a bad idea, then | 20:12 |
| * TheLordOfTime ran ntpdate prior to ntpd being installed, to grab the server data | 20:12 | |
| TheLordOfTime | and to update the time :P | 20:12 |
| pmatulis_ | TheLordOfTime: i've never had to do the cron job thing. i've only had a problem when running a guest in virtualbox | 20:13 |
| pmatulis_ | vmware too prolly | 20:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | pmatulis_: ah. considering i have three servers I need the time to be accurate for (one for IRC logs for certain channels, one for bitcoin data timestamps to be accurate, and one for webserver logs to be accurate), I kinda need it updated, so ntpd should work for what I need | 20:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | i did use ntpdate to update the time first though, so maybe all shall be good | 20:14 |
| bekks | use ntpdate once, and ntpd afterwards. | 20:15 |
| bgardner | bekks: +1 | 20:16 |
| semiosis | my launchpad karma doesnt count any PPA uploads in the last year, since Jan '13. did something change so PPA uploads no longer add karma? | 21:11 |
| Pici | semiosis: You might want to ask in #launchpad (too) | 21:11 |
| semiosis | Pici: thx, I will | 21:11 |
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