| * Kilos greets | 03:30 | |
| Kilos | hmm... | 04:48 |
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| Kilos | plustwo, whats you guys breaking? | 05:06 |
| Kilos | ai! | 05:07 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 05:08 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 05:08 |
| Kilos | oh my goosie is gonna run again today | 05:30 |
| nuvolari | o/ mornings oom Kilos, superfly, plustwo | 05:37 |
| Kilos | morning nuvolari | 05:37 |
| bduk1 | Morning everyone | 05:46 |
| Kilos | hi bduk1 | 05:46 |
| Kilos | plustwo, maak reg man | 05:49 |
| bduk1 | Shoe iemand klink kwaai vanmore | 05:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:51 |
| Kilos | wb inetpro maak reg | 05:54 |
| Kilos | sommer nou | 05:54 |
| Kilos | ai! | 05:55 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 05:55 |
| Kilos | inetpro_, maak reg | 05:55 |
| Kilos | oh my | 05:59 |
| inetpro | goeie more | 06:20 |
| inetpro | Kilos: eish! | 06:20 |
| Kilos | sjoe inetpro als siek daar maar lyk beter laaste rukkie | 06:21 |
| Kilos | wat het jy gebreek? | 06:21 |
| inetpro | massive NTP attack | 06:21 |
| Kilos | ai! | 06:21 |
| Kilos | from where | 06:21 |
| inetpro | from plenty addresses | 06:22 |
| inetpro | DDOS | 06:22 |
| Kilos | oh so they using other peeps pcs too | 06:22 |
| Kilos | eish | 06:22 |
| inetpro | Hackers Spend Christmas Break Launching Large Scale NTP-Reflection Attacks | 06:23 |
| inetpro | looks like they haven't stopped since then | 06:23 |
| inetpro | only now they figured that my server also has ntp | 06:24 |
| Kilos | i saw that | 06:24 |
| Kilos | i wish they would call them crackers | 06:24 |
| inetpro | now obviously I need to make a plan to update me ntp service | 06:27 |
| inetpro | been running smoothly for ever | 06:27 |
| Kilos | sigh | 06:33 |
| Kilos | so evil these peeps are | 06:33 |
| inetpro | that is where the firewall comes in handy | 06:48 |
| inetpro | whacked them all into a deny rule | 06:48 |
| Kilos | good man | 06:52 |
| Kilos | my gufw is set to deny all incoming, but i spose you have to have exceptions | 06:53 |
| inetpro | well you can't block a legitimate service if you expect people to use it | 07:06 |
| inetpro | fortunately mine is not an official outside service for the public | 07:08 |
| inetpro | sorry to those who thought they could just use it | 07:08 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:14 |
| Kilos | hi Gotango | 07:22 |
| Gotango | hi Kilos | 07:22 |
| Kilos | if you need help shout quick, i wanna chnge sims | 07:22 |
| Kilos | change | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi henkj_ | 07:23 |
| Kilos | with a tail | 07:23 |
| Gotango | lol why is that Kilos | 07:23 |
| Kilos | i want to use the data on the free one | 07:23 |
| Kilos | this one is getting low | 07:23 |
| Gotango | oh okay | 07:25 |
| Kilos | i go let sheep out quick | 07:25 |
| Gotango | 2 is better than 1 then | 07:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:34 |
| Kilos | one is my first 8ta sim and the other is the new telkom one with the free 200m data a month | 07:35 |
| Kilos | hi vince | 07:35 |
| Vince-0 | hi | 07:35 |
| Kilos | wbb | 07:36 |
| Gotango | I dont wana risk R49 though. Will try getting a cheap telkom mobile sim and then see if it works in my modem | 07:36 |
| Gotango | Hi Vince-0 | 07:36 |
| Vince-0 | Hi! | 07:39 |
| Kilos | hi! | 07:40 |
| Gotango | I dont wana risk R49 though. Will try getting a cheap telkom mobile sim and then see if it works in my modem | 07:40 |
| Gotango | wb Kilos | 07:40 |
| Kilos | ya my first one was 3.99 at checkers i think | 07:41 |
| Kilos | ty | 07:41 |
| Kilos | take your modem with to the shop and let them try it there | 07:41 |
| Gotango | I dont think Shoprite or pep stores will do that or can do that though | 07:43 |
| Gotango | Thats if they got the telkom mobile sims | 07:44 |
| Kilos | i think they all keep all the brands | 07:44 |
| Kilos | isnt there a post office near? | 07:45 |
| Gotango | Yeah its at the end of the street by me. But they never got anything. The one in town got eveything | 07:46 |
| Gotango | Hmm pc is running cool, now the laptops charger is hotter than ever lol | 07:48 |
| Kilos | worth a try | 07:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:48 |
| Gotango | I will get a cheap sim tomorow, then test it out, if it dont work then no loss for me, if it does, i do a rain dance :D | 07:50 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:52 |
| Kilos | thats good reasoning | 07:52 |
| Kilos | heres a drawing my daughter did for a client | 07:54 |
| Kilos | http://imageshack.com/a/img15/3694/osge.jpg | 07:54 |
| Gotango | Wow! thats stunning. She's really talented | 07:56 |
| Kilos | looks like a vampire chick | 07:59 |
| Kilos | peeps want funny things | 08:00 |
| Kilos | and pay for it too | 08:00 |
| Gotango | lol thats true, i saw a guy in new york who picks up random rubbish on sidewalks then puts it in glass cubes. People actually pay more than R10000 for it | 08:03 |
| Gotango | His an artist | 08:03 |
| Gotango | Well those are people who can afford to spend money on anything that interests them. | 08:05 |
| Gotango | Any way to put the notifications popup on the bottom ? It gets in the way alot | 08:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:15 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 08:15 |
| charl | hi psychicist, Kilos, Gotango | 08:15 |
| Kilos | i dunno how you decide where the popups are shown | 08:16 |
| Kilos | mine are also top right | 08:16 |
| Kilos | right where my 8ta connection is | 08:16 |
| Gotango | Hi charl | 08:17 |
| Gotango | Hi psychicist | 08:17 |
| Gotango | oh ok, will look on google, maybe its possible | 08:18 |
| Kilos | ohi charl | 08:19 |
| henkj_ | hi kilos | 08:24 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 08:26 |
| mazal | Môre oom | 08:27 |
| mazal | Ek het baie goeie nuus gelles vanmôre in die Ubuntu newsletter. 14.04 gaan Mate by default in hê :) | 08:28 |
| mazal | gelees even | 08:28 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:28 |
| mazal | Hulle moes dit lankal gedoen het | 08:28 |
| mazal | Nou kan mens self kies tussen Unity en Mate sonder om dit hoef by te install | 08:29 |
| Kilos | ek het net gewoont geraak aan unity | 08:29 |
| Kilos | maar dis n goeie plan | 08:29 |
| mazal | Jy kan nog steeds Unity gebruik , hy word net bygesit vir die wat nie van Unity hou nie | 08:29 |
| Kilos | maar mate is nie so lekker soos gnome2 nie op 10.10 | 08:29 |
| mazal | Baie goeie besluit in my opinie. Unity het baie users weggejaag | 08:29 |
| Kilos | ya baie het gekerm | 08:30 |
| mazal | Ten minste word Mate develop , gnome2 is dood | 08:30 |
| Kilos | ya | 08:30 |
| Kilos | maar daar was drie goed bo in 10.10 en in mate moet jy na een van die twee kies om te sien wat was in die derde een | 08:31 |
| Kilos | gnome2 was die maklikste van almal | 08:32 |
| Kilos | met baie moeite kan mens miskien gnome2 compile vir later releases | 08:33 |
| Kilos | maar sal baie werk wees met al die dependancies wat dan ook gedoen moet word | 08:34 |
| Kilos | eks al klaar moeg | 08:34 |
| mazal | Ja nee ek wil nie meer so baie sukkel nie. Is moeg van sukkel. Soek net 'n stabiele system wat als op werk | 08:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:45 |
| Gotango | oh ok, will look on google, maybe its possible | 08:48 |
| Gotango | hmm , reading some bad stuff on unvarified .deb files https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/fatalmistakes#TOC-Never-use-installation-scripts-like-Ultamatix-Ubuntu-Tweak-Ubuntu-Sources-List-Generator-or-Ubuntuzilla | 08:48 |
| Gotango | Even the theme files contain malware and trojans :/ | 08:49 |
| Gotango | An Ubuntu in which both the full Unity/Gnome and the full KDE desktop environments has been installed, turns your system into a hopelessly polluted mess. This pollution will decrease performance and may cause instability and malfunctions. | 08:51 |
| Gotango | So much for Xubuntu | 08:52 |
| Gotango | Kilos , in synaptic where is the install button after you've marked the application ? | 09:01 |
| Kilos | its a green arrow i think | 09:02 |
| Kilos | ya says apply | 09:02 |
| Kilos | at the top | 09:02 |
| Gotango | oh the green check mark | 09:03 |
| Kilos | dont you see apply written there? | 09:04 |
| Gotango | What is the : Download package files only option ? | 09:04 |
| Gotango | Yes | 09:04 |
| Kilos | dont change stuff there | 09:04 |
| psyatw | hi Gotango | 09:04 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:04 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 09:04 |
| Gotango | Hi psyatw | 09:05 |
| Gotango | ok i wont tick that box , just click Apply | 09:05 |
| Kilos | that would most likely mean it downloads them but dont install | 09:05 |
| Kilos | you see you can also do upgrades from synaptic? | 09:06 |
| Kilos | you mark them and then apply | 09:06 |
| Kilos | remember all this | 09:06 |
| Gotango | oh i see thanks | 09:08 |
| Kilos | it can also fix broken packages | 09:08 |
| Gotango | Thats good to hear | 09:09 |
| Kilos | edit>fix broken | 09:10 |
| Kilos | ubuntu rocks | 09:10 |
| Kilos | there are some very light weight linux OS's but you need to do more work | 09:12 |
| Gotango | Like mint | 09:12 |
| Kilos | much smaller | 09:12 |
| Gotango | ok | 09:13 |
| Kilos | like tinycorelinux. 66m the install iso | 09:13 |
| Kilos | but you need adsl to be able to then get the stuff to make 3g work | 09:13 |
| Gotango | lol , thats like win 98 | 09:13 |
| Kilos | smaller i think | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i still use 98 sometimes to fix mbr's | 09:14 |
| Kilos | command is fdisk /mbr | 09:15 |
| Gotango | Nice , i'm sure there's peeps out there that'll use it | 09:17 |
| Kilos | xp uses fixmbr and fixboot | 09:17 |
| Kilos | in ubuntu there is a tool for it called boot-repair | 09:17 |
| Gotango | Thats good | 09:20 |
| Kilos | you can most likely uses gparted now to make a partition at the end of the drive to save stuff on | 09:27 |
| Kilos | or even make backups to | 09:27 |
| Kilos | but dont play there yet | 09:27 |
| Kilos | easier to do when installing | 09:27 |
| Gotango | Thats a great thing to do | 09:28 |
| Gotango | I see a backup icon in system settings | 09:28 |
| Kilos | yes it works kiff | 09:29 |
| Kilos | deja-dup | 09:29 |
| Kilos | but you need somewhere to backup to | 09:29 |
| Gotango | Did it already create the backup partion at install | 09:29 |
| Kilos | no | 09:29 |
| Gotango | oh ok | 09:29 |
| Kilos | you make your own | 09:29 |
| Kilos | when installing you dont choose erase disk you choose something else then make your own partitions | 09:30 |
| Gotango | I see | 09:30 |
| Kilos | like / /home /storage | 09:30 |
| Kilos | oh and swap | 09:30 |
| Kilos | then if you need to reinstall you dont format your home partition so all your setting and accounts arent lost after installing the app again | 09:31 |
| Kilos | sounds wrong that | 09:33 |
| Gotango | Hmm , i'm used to reverting to last time the OS worked properly with win7 system restore | 09:33 |
| Kilos | after doing reinstall all your settings are saved but you need to install the apps again to use them | 09:33 |
| Kilos | ubuntu has a recovery tool | 09:34 |
| Kilos | when you boot its under the kernel thing you changed | 09:34 |
| Gotango | Yes i saw the ( recovery mode thing ) at boot | 09:35 |
| Kilos | but normally running sudo touch /forcefsck fixes things on a reboot | 09:35 |
| Kilos | like when a storm is close here but i dont want to go offline i use that command then the power can maar die the pc fixes everything when you boot again | 09:36 |
| Gotango | lol, dont you need a ups for that | 09:37 |
| Kilos | i have one but the battery packed up | 09:38 |
| Kilos | i just buy data and old peeps meds and save slowly for a fast pc | 09:38 |
| Gotango | So if the power goes off at random times without you knowing when, does the command still work | 09:39 |
| Kilos | the command works on first reboot after your type it in | 09:39 |
| Kilos | does what scandisk or chkdsk does | 09:40 |
| Kilos | only very very much faster | 09:40 |
| Gotango | But you need to be logged in to type the command | 09:40 |
| Kilos | yes so like if you see a storm coming you type it in now and forget about it | 09:41 |
| Kilos | sometimes ubuntu runs its own check on booting if power just died | 09:41 |
| Gotango | If the power shuts down while you were working on the pc, does it continue from where you left off | 09:42 |
| Kilos | with what? | 09:43 |
| Kilos | if you havent saved stuff you start over | 09:43 |
| Kilos | text files you can save at anytime through the job | 09:43 |
| Gotango | Ok so sudden power failure wont break ubuntu , like it does windows | 09:44 |
| Kilos | always look in file save when you doing big stuff and save now and again | 09:44 |
| Kilos | nope | 09:44 |
| Kilos | part of the ext4 filesystem makes it better especially for power cuts | 09:45 |
| Gotango | Reason is i keep my laptop battery in all the time while plugged in AC . I see a drain on the battery capacity, so i wana try taking it out and using ony AC | 09:45 |
| Gotango | only* | 09:46 |
| Gotango | Thats good | 09:46 |
| Kilos | eish that isnt safe i think | 09:46 |
| Kilos | dont they warm you to not do that | 09:46 |
| Gotango | Only HP does , other laptop manufacturers says its ok | 09:47 |
| Kilos | i wish the lappy peeps would advise here | 09:47 |
| Kilos | it is a big load on charger for starters | 09:47 |
| Gotango | The battery is always cool though | 09:47 |
| Kilos | personally i wouldnt remove the battery | 09:48 |
| Gotango | Just the charger is hot | 09:48 |
| Kilos | they always get hot even cell phone chargers | 09:48 |
| Gotango | Ya thats true | 09:49 |
| Kilos | if you remove the battery then the charger has to do everything | 09:49 |
| Gotango | I see on google people complain of HP chargers getting more hot than other laptop chargers | 09:49 |
| Gotango | Maybe thats why the suggest to take out the battery | 09:50 |
| Kilos | it will get even hotter then | 09:50 |
| Kilos | like with a car | 09:50 |
| Gotango | Ya i guess | 09:50 |
| Kilos | you can start it then remove the battery and the altenator will keep it going but wont be too long before you buy a new altenator | 09:51 |
| Gotango | I have been using it with the battery in for 2 years now, and on full battery charge it lasts about 30 minutes for the battery to drain again | 09:52 |
| Gotango | Aah thats interesting | 09:52 |
| Kilos | then the battery is tired but will still do its job with charger connected | 09:52 |
| Kilos | so start designing and make money for a new battery | 09:53 |
| Gotango | Ya , i like to use the battery as a ups for when the powers down i can save my work before switching it off | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ya | 09:54 |
| Gotango | I will try | 09:55 |
| Kilos | arent they supposed to last for hours | 09:57 |
| Kilos | 30 mins sucks | 09:57 |
| Kilos | just enough time to save everything | 09:57 |
| Gotango | yes , but the battery degrades faster when not following its designed charge patterns | 09:58 |
| Gotango | Like always full charge and full discharge will make the battery last longer | 09:59 |
| Gotango | acpitz-virtual-0 | 10:15 |
| Gotango | Adapter: Virtual device | 10:15 |
| Gotango | temp1: +62.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) | 10:15 |
| Gotango | temp2: +30.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) | 10:15 |
| Gotango | k10temp-pci-00c3 | 10:15 |
| Gotango | Adapter: PCI adapter | 10:15 |
| Gotango | temp1: +62.5°C (high = +70.0°C) | 10:15 |
| Gotango | (crit = +100.0°C, hyst = +95.0°C) | 10:15 |
| Gotango | temp1: used to be at 256 degrees, beyond critical | 10:15 |
| Kilos | whew | 10:18 |
| Gotango | Hope That 256 degrees didnt damage anything | 10:19 |
| Gotango | But good to see its calmed down now | 10:20 |
| Kilos | it could only vave damaged the heat pad | 10:22 |
| Kilos | i read thats common | 10:23 |
| Kilos | and the replacement aint cheap | 10:23 |
| Gotango | It does'nt matter though, i will keep on using this lappy until it breaks | 10:24 |
| Gotango | Just keep on monitoring the resources used and stuff, not over-do the cpu with intense apps and games | 10:25 |
| Gotango | Other than that things will be ok | 10:26 |
| Kilos | i dunno bout lappy life but i got old desktops working fine | 10:26 |
| Kilos | psu replacement dvdrom etc | 10:26 |
| Gotango | Ya they usually last a long time if used properly | 10:27 |
| Kilos | yo somaunn | 10:28 |
| Kilos | what did you break | 10:28 |
| Gotango | Having a backup pc is always a plus | 10:29 |
| somaunn | Hello Kilos | 10:29 |
| Gotango | Hi somaumn | 10:29 |
| somaunn | Hi Gotango | 10:29 |
| Kilos | yeah its the answer Gotango | 10:29 |
| somaunn | Yeah you right | 10:34 |
| somaunn | guys if i may bring something on the desk here | 10:35 |
| somaunn | When can we expect to have an office suite similar to MS Office with less stress than OoO and LO | 10:36 |
| somaunn | on our linux box | 10:36 |
| somaunn | i've read somewhere: MS will release MS Office on linux but left the major question : is it going to be free | 10:37 |
| somaunn | ???? | 10:37 |
| Gotango | bbl | 10:38 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 10:42 |
| Kilos | superfly, please help. i got a cpu cooler with three strips of some tape across. must i put thermal paste on the cpu then remove the strips of tape off the cooler before placing on cpu or does that grey kinda tape act as heat transfer stuff? | 10:56 |
| superfly | I don't know. | 10:56 |
| Kilos | like if the tap stays the whole heat sink isnt flush with the cpu top | 10:56 |
| Kilos | oh my | 10:56 |
| Kilos | i dunno who to ask | 10:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: are you talking about a heatsink? that massive fan that sits on top of your CPU? | 10:57 |
| Kilos | yessir | 10:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: is it new? | 10:58 |
| Kilos | yessir | 10:58 |
| superfly | doesn't it come with instructions? | 10:58 |
| Kilos | instructions say nothing about those three strips | 10:58 |
| superfly | what is the make and model? | 10:59 |
| Kilos | of the cooler? | 10:59 |
| superfly | yes | 11:00 |
| Kilos | intel e97379-001 | 11:00 |
| Kilos | cnf-n3262v2 | 11:01 |
| Kilos | 1ao1ry300-hbd | 11:02 |
| Kilos | sorry have to use 2 pairs glasses and magnifying glass | 11:02 |
| Kilos | had to | 11:03 |
| Kilos | on the box it says it has a thermal solution design for desktop use | 11:06 |
| Kilos | those strips must be it | 11:06 |
| Kilos | sorry superfly | 11:06 |
| Kilos | i gotta go eat | 11:07 |
| somaunn | brb | 11:09 |
| superfly | Kilos: is the tape sticky? | 11:12 |
| superfly | Kilos: most heat sinks come with thermal paste pre-applied | 11:12 |
| Kilos | yeah a little bit | 11:13 |
| Kilos | oh lekker ty superfly | 11:13 |
| Kilos | i even have a tube of past. so that can be saved | 11:13 |
| Kilos | yay | 11:13 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , enjoy your evening | 12:42 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 13:13 |
| Kilos | and not_found | 13:13 |
| Kilos | split personality | 13:13 |
| somaunn | Hello | 14:08 |
| somaunn | i'm back | 14:08 |
| Kilos | hi somaunn | 14:12 |
| Kilos | did anyone answer you somaunn ? i was off for a bit | 14:18 |
| Kilos | ive only used officewriter a bit so i cant help you. but if you state why you asked that question someone could help maybe | 14:21 |
| Kilos | just rememberthey all busy | 14:21 |
| Kilos | so patience is good | 14:21 |
| somaunn | Kilos: no, i received no answer | 14:25 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i'm not in a hurry i can wait until the answer comes | 14:26 |
| Kilos | cool | 14:27 |
| somaunn | in the same time i have a question | 14:29 |
| somaunn | how is the Linux/ Ubuntu movement doing in S.A these days | 14:30 |
| Kilos | we always strong and slowly bit by bit new guys join | 14:31 |
| Kilos | dont you see new names when you come on? | 14:31 |
| Kilos | oh meeting 28th hey | 14:31 |
| Kilos | we gonna discuss internet in za | 14:32 |
| Kilos | maybe someone has plans to improve it or maybe we go toi toi | 14:32 |
| Kilos | hi andrewlsd | 14:37 |
| Kilos | wb | 14:37 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos | 14:37 |
| andrewlsd | ... am trying CIRC client. via "CIRC is a packaged Chrome app developed by Google Inc. Documentation, issues and source code live at http://flackr.github.com/circ." | 14:43 |
| Kilos | wb Gotango | 14:45 |
| Gotango | ty Kilos | 14:45 |
| somaunn | brb | 16:11 |
| somaunn | i'm back | 17:09 |
| Kilos | ah | 17:12 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 17:19 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:19 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 17:20 |
| Kilos | did you physically have to line up those 2 dishes to see each other? | 17:21 |
| Gotango | Hi magespawn | 17:25 |
| magespawn | yes but they come with a site survey tool that allows you to scan and come up with available access points | 17:25 |
| magespawn | hey Gotango | 17:25 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:26 |
| magespawn | also strength and signal through put etc | 17:26 |
| Kilos | cost per dish? | 17:27 |
| magespawn | lots of software tools to make it easier | 17:27 |
| magespawn | they are quite pricey i think about R2500.00 | 17:27 |
| Kilos | eeek | 17:28 |
| magespawn | mm not cheap | 17:28 |
| magespawn | there are other options that are slightly cheaper ut not by much | 17:28 |
| magespawn | s/ut/but | 17:29 |
| Kilos | yagi | 17:30 |
| Kilos | ill still get to finishing mine | 17:30 |
| Kilos | need another brazing rod | 17:30 |
| Kilos | 5 elements short5 | 17:30 |
| magespawn | i see the prices here are cheaper http://www.dbg.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=1_69_96&products_id=642 | 17:31 |
| Kilos | ya but your way you need to supply both dishes | 17:32 |
| Kilos | i want to reach a telkom hotspot about 8 ks away but we are in a dip so not sure how high the mast must be | 17:35 |
| magespawn | there is no guarantee that is going to work | 17:38 |
| Kilos | if i can get line of site with nothing in between it will, im sure | 17:39 |
| magespawn | they usually want you to be local to the hotspot, and generally they run at 2.4Ghz | 17:39 |
| Kilos | not serious the costs to me are minimal | 17:39 |
| magespawn | well it will be interesting to find out | 17:39 |
| Kilos | ya i designed the yagi for 2.4g | 17:39 |
| magespawn | i want to try a satellite dish with those dipole antenna | 17:40 |
| Kilos | ya that works too | 17:41 |
| Kilos | how far must yours work | 17:41 |
| Kilos | at these high frequencies line of site is important | 17:42 |
| magespawn | well i am going to have my adsl line in town it will probable be about 1.5 - 2 km | 17:42 |
| Kilos | oh thats close | 17:43 |
| Kilos | you can use a wifi antenna with a nice dome shaped chrome dish out of the kitchen | 17:44 |
| magespawn | yup right around the corner, just far enough to not get a phone line, since that does not run line of sight | 17:44 |
| Kilos | you can take a wifi card and just extend the coax to the aerial | 17:45 |
| Kilos | must be 50 ohm coax | 17:46 |
| magespawn | there are lots of options | 17:46 |
| Kilos | much thinner than tv cable | 17:46 |
| Kilos | all wifi uses 50 ohm coax | 17:48 |
| Kilos | dishes are the answer if one has the cash | 17:52 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 17:54 |
| magespawn | this is a second hand one that i got from a local dstv installer | 17:55 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 17:55 |
| psychicist | hi magespawn | 17:55 |
| magespawn | hi psychicist | 17:56 |
| Kilos | good idea that mage i have 2 and no dstv | 17:56 |
| Kilos | decoder packed up just after i came here | 17:56 |
| magespawn | just need to work on the correct distance from the dish | 17:57 |
| magespawn | just found this website http://www.saflii.org.za/ | 17:58 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:58 |
| Gotango | hi psychicist | 17:58 |
| Kilos | i cant browse now data near gone | 17:58 |
| Kilos | save that link for me please | 17:59 |
| magespawn | it is a legal site with case law etc from south africa | 17:59 |
| Kilos | ian got me data 2 weeks back and when i tried to use it today it said invalid | 17:59 |
| Kilos | grrr | 17:59 |
| Gotango | That sucks Kilos | 18:01 |
| Gotango | They cant just pull data like that | 18:01 |
| Kilos | yeah i gotta fone and bitch | 18:01 |
| psychicist | hi Gotango | 18:02 |
| Kilos | maybe the shop that sold it noticed it wasnt used so they used it. i gotta find out why they say its invalid | 18:02 |
| magespawn | maybe the same data has been sold twice | 18:03 |
| Gotango | Ya do that | 18:03 |
| Kilos | but then i gotta use this sim to fone from | 18:04 |
| Kilos | oh wait i have another one too | 18:05 |
| Kilos | yay | 18:05 |
| Kilos | bad to be stupid | 18:05 |
| magespawn | everyone is sooner or later | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hahaha im at the later stage | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hi cocooncrash hows things by you? | 18:10 |
| magespawn | i really love updating free software, the updates are almost always small | 18:12 |
| magespawn | for some reason paid software is almost always larger | 18:13 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:14 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 18:14 |
| Kilos | wwb | 18:14 |
| Kilos | wb too | 18:14 |
| magespawn | the latest LTS is 13.04 correct? | 18:16 |
| Kilos | 14.04 | 18:18 |
| Kilos | oh sorry | 18:18 |
| Kilos | 12,04 | 18:18 |
| magespawn | this laptop is running 13.04 | 18:18 |
| Kilos | latest is coming in just over 3 months | 18:18 |
| Kilos | 13.04 isnt supported anymore i think | 18:19 |
| theblazehen | Hi! | 18:19 |
| magespawn | hi theblazehen | 18:20 |
| theblazehen | hey magespawn, whats new? | 18:20 |
| Gotango | Hi theblazehen | 18:21 |
| theblazehen | hey Gotango | 18:21 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos and everybody else | 18:21 |
| theblazehen | hey Private_User | 18:21 |
| Gotango | Hi Private_User | 18:21 |
| magespawn | not too much, setting up a wireless mast at work over the next couple of days | 18:21 |
| magespawn | hey Private_User | 18:21 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 18:22 |
| Private_User | theblazehen, Gotango, magespawn, sup | 18:22 |
| theblazehen | hey Kilos | 18:22 |
| magespawn | i have two server machines at work running trusty tahr (spelling?) which is the development branch | 18:23 |
| magespawn | seems pretty stable so far | 18:25 |
| theblazehen | 14.something? | 18:29 |
| Kilos | what kinda os is that? | 18:29 |
| theblazehen | Kilos, ubuntu I believe | 18:29 |
| Kilos | aha | 18:29 |
| somaunn | theblazehen: Yes Ubutnu 14.04 | 18:35 |
| Kilos | aha | 18:35 |
| Kilos | before they even released hey magespawn | 18:36 |
| theblazehen | ty somaunn, magespawn: 14.04 server? advantages over 13.10? | 18:36 |
| Kilos | lts | 18:36 |
| theblazehen | Kilos, ah, ty | 18:36 |
| somaunn | theblazehen: here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/ | 18:38 |
| theblazehen | somaunn, ty | 18:38 |
| somaunn | theblazehen: can be better but need to make sure before installing, it's still in devel version | 18:39 |
| theblazehen | somaunn, yeah. Well I'll just wait till there is an OpenVZ image available | 18:40 |
| Kilos | im gonna use 12.04 for a year still | 18:54 |
| magespawn | theblazehen, have not really noticed anything yet, they are not production machines, more just for me to play and learn on | 19:01 |
| theblazehen | magespawn, kk, ty | 19:02 |
| magespawn | but no reboot or shutdowns yet | 19:02 |
| Kilos | thats a good sign | 19:03 |
| magespawn | indeed, also no problems with installed software | 19:03 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:03 |
| Kilos | its just the updates on new releases thats stopping me | 19:04 |
| Kilos | already collection 8.7g packages for 12.04 | 19:05 |
| somaunn | Kilos: don't understand ! | 19:05 |
| somaunn | 8.7 for upgrading from 12.04 to ? | 19:05 |
| Kilos | i save all the archives so if i need to reinstall i dont have all that downloading again | 19:06 |
| Kilos | its now 12.03.3 | 19:07 |
| Kilos | but i got packages from when it first came out | 19:07 |
| somaunn | ok, i see. by archive you means like a kind of local repo | 19:07 |
| Kilos | havent worked out how to only keep relevant ones | 19:07 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:07 |
| Kilos | copy /var/cache/apt/archives/ to /storage | 19:08 |
| Kilos | use rsync though not cp | 19:08 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i see | 19:10 |
| somaunn | Kilos: from what i know the full repo can go up to 40Gig | 19:10 |
| somaunn | but that was years ago | 19:11 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:11 |
| somaunn | 2009 to be precise | 19:11 |
| Kilos | massive but most you never use | 19:11 |
| somaunn | Kilos: you'r right | 19:11 |
| Kilos | getting the whole repo is a waste for a ptivate person | 19:12 |
| Kilos | ok for large companies but them they dont have internet caps | 19:12 |
| magespawn | lots of people also do not have any caps, and 40 gig is not so much | 19:13 |
| magespawn | thinks i must do that on the work connection | 19:14 |
| Gotango | Is an OpenBIOS a good idea when the original Bios dont give any kind of configuration options ? | 19:14 |
| Kilos | yeah its only mainly mobile peeps that suffer | 19:15 |
| magespawn | Gotango, never used it, so i have no idea | 19:15 |
| Kilos | no bios options? | 19:15 |
| Kilos | has hp locked it? | 19:16 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:16 |
| Gotango | Ok magespawn | 19:16 |
| Kilos | must be some way to get in | 19:16 |
| magespawn | is this the right page http://www.openfirmware.info/Welcome_to_OpenBIOS ? | 19:16 |
| Gotango | It just reads some basic hardware stats and tests the drives , nothing more | 19:16 |
| magespawn | Kilos the older bios did not give very many options | 19:17 |
| Kilos | sometimes if you in bios you hit ctrl+f1 and more shows | 19:17 |
| Gotango | Ya like that magespawn, but dunno how reliable it will be | 19:17 |
| Kilos | award bios that is | 19:17 |
| magespawn | you need to be certain that it will run your machine properly because it will be difficult to recover it, if not impossible | 19:18 |
| Kilos | what do you want to do in bios? | 19:18 |
| Gotango | hmm ok i understand magespawn | 19:18 |
| Gotango | So i guess a cli program will be best to test or set temperature and fan type settings | 19:19 |
| Kilos | main things needed are date and time and boot drives | 19:19 |
| Kilos | no smart fan settings there? | 19:20 |
| Gotango | My fan is running fine and calm. My hard drive is suddenly getting hotter my charger too aswell as the touch pad above the hard drive | 19:21 |
| Kilos | hard drives normally get so hot you cant touch them | 19:22 |
| Gotango | I think so. Its just the touch pad next to it its uncomfortable moving the mouse | 19:23 |
| magespawn | there is a cli program to show drive activity i think | 19:23 |
| * Gotango needs his fingerprints to vote | 19:24 | |
| magespawn | in kde there are widgets that will show you system activity | 19:24 |
| magespawn | so there might be something like that for unity | 19:24 |
| Gotango | Thanks magespawn i will try search for something like that | 19:25 |
| magespawn | have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskPerformance | 19:26 |
| Gotango | acpitz-virtual-0 | 19:26 |
| Gotango | Adapter: Virtual device | 19:26 |
| Gotango | temp1: +63.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) | 19:26 |
| Gotango | temp2: +30.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) | 19:26 |
| Gotango | k10temp-pci-00c3 | 19:26 |
| Gotango | Adapter: PCI adapter | 19:26 |
| Gotango | temp1: +63.8°C (high = +70.0°C) | 19:26 |
| Gotango | (crit = +100.0°C, hyst = +95.0°C) | 19:26 |
| Gotango | Thats normal i guess, dunno where the HDD heat is coming from | 19:27 |
| Gotango | Thanks for the link | 19:27 |
| magespawn | np | 19:29 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:31 |
| Gotango | night Kilos | 19:31 |
| magespawn | always goes before i say good night | 19:32 |
| Gotango | lol | 19:33 |
| magespawn | that tool looks like it could be useful for monitoring a server performance over time, just pipe the output to a file to analyze later | 19:33 |
| Gotango | I'm trying to understand it magespawn but i'm a newbie in ubuntu, that looks like i will break something | 19:34 |
| magespawn | breaking things is part of learning, or so i have found | 19:35 |
| Gotango | Thats if you got backups lol , backups HHD's , backup pc etc... | 19:36 |
| Gotango | I dont have that luxury though | 19:36 |
| magespawn | generally the software gets problems before the hardware | 19:36 |
| magespawn | or in my experience | 19:37 |
| magespawn | Gotango, what are your plans for the future? | 19:37 |
| Gotango | I dunno actually. I got a serious lung condition, i cant do electrition work anymore. So i will try making my hobby in web development my career | 19:39 |
| magespawn | there is money to be made there that is for sure | 19:40 |
| Gotango | electrical* | 19:40 |
| magespawn | once you get known then you can take work from all over the world | 19:40 |
| Gotango | ya thats true. I got some good ideas on how to be different than all the others in my field. So being unique and creative is a big plus | 19:41 |
| magespawn | indeed and the barriers to entry are not too high | 19:42 |
| magespawn | there are a couple of sites out there for free lancers to advertise on | 19:44 |
| Gotango | I will stick to php, python as the backend , and ofcourse html,css,javascript at front end. The more i focus on them the better i will get in producing great applications | 19:44 |
| Gotango | Yeah i got a few such sites . But for me its better to start local, with people close to other people i know that need it | 19:46 |
| Gotango | Being global is not on my mind right now | 19:47 |
| magespawn | well keep us up to date with developments, and i am sure that people will use you as time goes by | 19:48 |
| Gotango | I will, and hope they do thanks | 19:49 |
| magespawn | right i am off to bed, good night all | 19:49 |
| Gotango | take care magespawn | 19:49 |
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