[03:30] * Kilos greets [04:48] hmm... [05:06] plustwo, whats you guys breaking? [05:07] ai! [05:08] morning superfly [05:08] hi Kilos [05:30] oh my goosie is gonna run again today [05:37] o/ mornings oom Kilos, superfly, plustwo [05:37] morning nuvolari [05:46] Morning everyone [05:46] hi bduk1 [05:49] plustwo, maak reg man [05:50] Shoe iemand klink kwaai vanmore [05:51] lol [05:54] wb inetpro maak reg [05:54] sommer nou [05:55] ai! [05:55] hmm... [05:55] inetpro_, maak reg [05:59] oh my [06:20] goeie more [06:20] Kilos: eish! [06:21] sjoe inetpro als siek daar maar lyk beter laaste rukkie [06:21] wat het jy gebreek? [06:21] massive NTP attack [06:21] ai! [06:21] from where [06:22] from plenty addresses [06:22] DDOS [06:22] oh so they using other peeps pcs too [06:22] eish [06:23] Hackers Spend Christmas Break Launching Large Scale NTP-Reflection Attacks [06:23] looks like they haven't stopped since then [06:24] only now they figured that my server also has ntp [06:24] i saw that [06:24] i wish they would call them crackers [06:27] now obviously I need to make a plan to update me ntp service [06:27] been running smoothly for ever [06:33] sigh [06:33] so evil these peeps are [06:48] that is where the firewall comes in handy [06:48] whacked them all into a deny rule [06:52] good man [06:53] my gufw is set to deny all incoming, but i spose you have to have exceptions [07:06] well you can't block a legitimate service if you expect people to use it [07:08] fortunately mine is not an official outside service for the public [07:08] sorry to those who thought they could just use it [07:14] hehe [07:22] hi Gotango [07:22] hi Kilos [07:22] if you need help shout quick, i wanna chnge sims [07:22] change [07:23] hi henkj_ [07:23] with a tail [07:23] lol why is that Kilos [07:23] i want to use the data on the free one [07:23] this one is getting low [07:25] oh okay [07:25] i go let sheep out quick [07:25] 2 is better than 1 then [07:34] hehe [07:35] one is my first 8ta sim and the other is the new telkom one with the free 200m data a month [07:35] hi vince [07:35] hi [07:36] wbb [07:36] I dont wana risk R49 though. Will try getting a cheap telkom mobile sim and then see if it works in my modem [07:36] Hi Vince-0 [07:39] Hi! [07:40] hi! [07:40] I dont wana risk R49 though. Will try getting a cheap telkom mobile sim and then see if it works in my modem [07:40] wb Kilos [07:41] ya my first one was 3.99 at checkers i think [07:41] ty [07:41] take your modem with to the shop and let them try it there [07:43] I dont think Shoprite or pep stores will do that or can do that though [07:44] Thats if they got the telkom mobile sims [07:44] i think they all keep all the brands [07:45] isnt there a post office near? [07:46] Yeah its at the end of the street by me. But they never got anything. The one in town got eveything [07:48] Hmm pc is running cool, now the laptops charger is hotter than ever lol [07:48] worth a try [07:48] lol [07:50] I will get a cheap sim tomorow, then test it out, if it dont work then no loss for me, if it does, i do a rain dance :D [07:52] yeah [07:52] thats good reasoning [07:54] heres a drawing my daughter did for a client [07:54] http://imageshack.com/a/img15/3694/osge.jpg [07:56] Wow! thats stunning. She's really talented [07:59] looks like a vampire chick [08:00] peeps want funny things [08:00] and pay for it too [08:03] lol thats true, i saw a guy in new york who picks up random rubbish on sidewalks then puts it in glass cubes. People actually pay more than R10000 for it [08:03] His an artist [08:05] Well those are people who can afford to spend money on anything that interests them. [08:08] Any way to put the notifications popup on the bottom ? It gets in the way alot [08:15] lol [08:15] hi psychicist [08:15] hi psychicist, Kilos, Gotango [08:16] i dunno how you decide where the popups are shown [08:16] mine are also top right [08:16] right where my 8ta connection is [08:17] Hi charl [08:17] Hi psychicist [08:18] oh ok, will look on google, maybe its possible [08:19] ohi charl [08:24] hi kilos [08:26] hi mazal [08:27] Môre oom [08:28] Ek het baie goeie nuus gelles vanmôre in die Ubuntu newsletter. 14.04 gaan Mate by default in hê :) [08:28] gelees even [08:28] ai! [08:28] Hulle moes dit lankal gedoen het [08:29] Nou kan mens self kies tussen Unity en Mate sonder om dit hoef by te install [08:29] ek het net gewoont geraak aan unity [08:29] maar dis n goeie plan [08:29] Jy kan nog steeds Unity gebruik , hy word net bygesit vir die wat nie van Unity hou nie [08:29] maar mate is nie so lekker soos gnome2 nie op 10.10 [08:29] Baie goeie besluit in my opinie. Unity het baie users weggejaag [08:30] ya baie het gekerm [08:30] Ten minste word Mate develop , gnome2 is dood [08:30] ya [08:31] maar daar was drie goed bo in 10.10 en in mate moet jy na een van die twee kies om te sien wat was in die derde een [08:32] gnome2 was die maklikste van almal [08:33] met baie moeite kan mens miskien gnome2 compile vir later releases [08:34] maar sal baie werk wees met al die dependancies wat dan ook gedoen moet word [08:34] eks al klaar moeg [08:45] Ja nee ek wil nie meer so baie sukkel nie. Is moeg van sukkel. Soek net 'n stabiele system wat als op werk [08:45] lol [08:48] oh ok, will look on google, maybe its possible [08:48] hmm , reading some bad stuff on unvarified .deb files https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/fatalmistakes#TOC-Never-use-installation-scripts-like-Ultamatix-Ubuntu-Tweak-Ubuntu-Sources-List-Generator-or-Ubuntuzilla [08:49] Even the theme files contain malware and trojans :/ [08:51] An Ubuntu in which both the full Unity/Gnome and the full KDE desktop environments has been installed, turns your system into a hopelessly polluted mess. This pollution will decrease performance and may cause instability and malfunctions. [08:52] So much for Xubuntu [09:01] Kilos , in synaptic where is the install button after you've marked the application ? [09:02] its a green arrow i think [09:02] ya says apply [09:02] at the top [09:03] oh the green check mark [09:04] dont you see apply written there? [09:04] What is the : Download package files only option ? [09:04] Yes [09:04] dont change stuff there [09:04] hi Gotango [09:04] hi Kilos [09:04] hi psyatw [09:05] Hi psyatw [09:05] ok i wont tick that box , just click Apply [09:05] that would most likely mean it downloads them but dont install [09:06] you see you can also do upgrades from synaptic? [09:06] you mark them and then apply [09:06] remember all this [09:08] oh i see thanks [09:08] it can also fix broken packages [09:09] Thats good to hear [09:10] edit>fix broken [09:10] ubuntu rocks [09:12] there are some very light weight linux OS's but you need to do more work [09:12] Like mint [09:12] much smaller [09:13] ok [09:13] like tinycorelinux. 66m the install iso [09:13] but you need adsl to be able to then get the stuff to make 3g work [09:13] lol , thats like win 98 [09:14] smaller i think [09:14] i still use 98 sometimes to fix mbr's [09:15] command is fdisk /mbr [09:17] Nice , i'm sure there's peeps out there that'll use it [09:17] xp uses fixmbr and fixboot [09:17] in ubuntu there is a tool for it called boot-repair [09:20] Thats good [09:27] you can most likely uses gparted now to make a partition at the end of the drive to save stuff on [09:27] or even make backups to [09:27] but dont play there yet [09:27] easier to do when installing [09:28] Thats a great thing to do [09:28] I see a backup icon in system settings [09:29] yes it works kiff [09:29] deja-dup [09:29] but you need somewhere to backup to [09:29] Did it already create the backup partion at install [09:29] no [09:29] oh ok [09:29] you make your own [09:30] when installing you dont choose erase disk you choose something else then make your own partitions [09:30] I see [09:30] like / /home /storage [09:30] oh and swap [09:31] then if you need to reinstall you dont format your home partition so all your setting and accounts arent lost after installing the app again [09:33] sounds wrong that [09:33] Hmm , i'm used to reverting to last time the OS worked properly with win7 system restore [09:33] after doing reinstall all your settings are saved but you need to install the apps again to use them [09:34] ubuntu has a recovery tool [09:34] when you boot its under the kernel thing you changed [09:35] Yes i saw the ( recovery mode thing ) at boot [09:35] but normally running sudo touch /forcefsck fixes things on a reboot [09:36] like when a storm is close here but i dont want to go offline i use that command then the power can maar die the pc fixes everything when you boot again [09:37] lol, dont you need a ups for that [09:38] i have one but the battery packed up [09:38] i just buy data and old peeps meds and save slowly for a fast pc [09:39] So if the power goes off at random times without you knowing when, does the command still work [09:39] the command works on first reboot after your type it in [09:40] does what scandisk or chkdsk does [09:40] only very very much faster [09:40] But you need to be logged in to type the command [09:41] yes so like if you see a storm coming you type it in now and forget about it [09:41] sometimes ubuntu runs its own check on booting if power just died [09:42] If the power shuts down while you were working on the pc, does it continue from where you left off [09:43] with what? [09:43] if you havent saved stuff you start over [09:43] text files you can save at anytime through the job [09:44] Ok so sudden power failure wont break ubuntu , like it does windows [09:44] always look in file save when you doing big stuff and save now and again [09:44] nope [09:45] part of the ext4 filesystem makes it better especially for power cuts [09:45] Reason is i keep my laptop battery in all the time while plugged in AC . I see a drain on the battery capacity, so i wana try taking it out and using ony AC [09:46] only* [09:46] Thats good [09:46] eish that isnt safe i think [09:46] dont they warm you to not do that [09:47] Only HP does , other laptop manufacturers says its ok [09:47] i wish the lappy peeps would advise here [09:47] it is a big load on charger for starters [09:47] The battery is always cool though [09:48] personally i wouldnt remove the battery [09:48] Just the charger is hot [09:48] they always get hot even cell phone chargers [09:49] Ya thats true [09:49] if you remove the battery then the charger has to do everything [09:49] I see on google people complain of HP chargers getting more hot than other laptop chargers [09:50] Maybe thats why the suggest to take out the battery [09:50] it will get even hotter then [09:50] like with a car [09:50] Ya i guess [09:51] you can start it then remove the battery and the altenator will keep it going but wont be too long before you buy a new altenator [09:52] I have been using it with the battery in for 2 years now, and on full battery charge it lasts about 30 minutes for the battery to drain again [09:52] Aah thats interesting [09:52] then the battery is tired but will still do its job with charger connected [09:53] so start designing and make money for a new battery [09:53] Ya , i like to use the battery as a ups for when the powers down i can save my work before switching it off [09:54] ya [09:55] I will try [09:57] arent they supposed to last for hours [09:57] 30 mins sucks [09:57] just enough time to save everything [09:58] yes , but the battery degrades faster when not following its designed charge patterns [09:59] Like always full charge and full discharge will make the battery last longer [10:15] acpitz-virtual-0 [10:15] Adapter: Virtual device [10:15] temp1: +62.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) [10:15] temp2: +30.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) [10:15] k10temp-pci-00c3 [10:15] Adapter: PCI adapter [10:15] temp1: +62.5°C (high = +70.0°C) [10:15] (crit = +100.0°C, hyst = +95.0°C) [10:15] temp1: used to be at 256 degrees, beyond critical [10:18] whew [10:19] Hope That 256 degrees didnt damage anything [10:20] But good to see its calmed down now [10:22] it could only vave damaged the heat pad [10:23] i read thats common [10:23] and the replacement aint cheap [10:24] It does'nt matter though, i will keep on using this lappy until it breaks [10:25] Just keep on monitoring the resources used and stuff, not over-do the cpu with intense apps and games [10:26] Other than that things will be ok [10:26] i dunno bout lappy life but i got old desktops working fine [10:26] psu replacement dvdrom etc [10:27] Ya they usually last a long time if used properly [10:28] yo somaunn [10:28] what did you break [10:29] Having a backup pc is always a plus [10:29] Hello Kilos [10:29] Hi somaumn [10:29] Hi Gotango [10:29] yeah its the answer Gotango [10:34] Yeah you right [10:35] guys if i may bring something on the desk here [10:36] When can we expect to have an office suite similar to MS Office with less stress than OoO and LO [10:36] on our linux box [10:37] i've read somewhere: MS will release MS Office on linux but left the major question : is it going to be free [10:37] ???? [10:38] bbl [10:42] sjoe [10:56] superfly, please help. i got a cpu cooler with three strips of some tape across. must i put thermal paste on the cpu then remove the strips of tape off the cooler before placing on cpu or does that grey kinda tape act as heat transfer stuff? [10:56] I don't know. [10:56] like if the tap stays the whole heat sink isnt flush with the cpu top [10:56] oh my [10:57] i dunno who to ask [10:57] Kilos: are you talking about a heatsink? that massive fan that sits on top of your CPU? [10:57] yessir [10:58] Kilos: is it new? [10:58] yessir [10:58] doesn't it come with instructions? [10:58] instructions say nothing about those three strips [10:59] what is the make and model? [10:59] of the cooler? [11:00] yes [11:00] intel e97379-001 [11:01] cnf-n3262v2 [11:02] 1ao1ry300-hbd [11:02] sorry have to use 2 pairs glasses and magnifying glass [11:03] had to [11:06] on the box it says it has a thermal solution design for desktop use [11:06] those strips must be it [11:06] sorry superfly [11:07] i gotta go eat [11:09] brb [11:12] Kilos: is the tape sticky? [11:12] Kilos: most heat sinks come with thermal paste pre-applied [11:13] yeah a little bit [11:13] oh lekker ty superfly [11:13] i even have a tube of past. so that can be saved [11:13] yay [12:42] Bye everyone , enjoy your evening [13:13] hi nlsthzn [13:13] and not_found [13:13] split personality [14:08] Hello [14:08] i'm back [14:12] hi somaunn [14:18] did anyone answer you somaunn ? i was off for a bit [14:21] ive only used officewriter a bit so i cant help you. but if you state why you asked that question someone could help maybe [14:21] just rememberthey all busy [14:21] so patience is good [14:25] Kilos: no, i received no answer [14:26] Kilos: i'm not in a hurry i can wait until the answer comes [14:27] cool [14:29] in the same time i have a question [14:30] how is the Linux/ Ubuntu movement doing in S.A these days [14:31] we always strong and slowly bit by bit new guys join [14:31] dont you see new names when you come on? [14:31] oh meeting 28th hey [14:32] we gonna discuss internet in za [14:32] maybe someone has plans to improve it or maybe we go toi toi [14:37] hi andrewlsd [14:37] wb [14:37] Hi Kilos [14:43] ... am trying CIRC client. via "CIRC is a packaged Chrome app developed by Google Inc. Documentation, issues and source code live at http://flackr.github.com/circ." [14:45] wb Gotango [14:45] ty Kilos [16:11] brb [17:09] i'm back [17:12] ah [17:19] good evening all [17:19] hi magespawn [17:20] hey Kilos [17:21] did you physically have to line up those 2 dishes to see each other? [17:25] Hi magespawn [17:25] yes but they come with a site survey tool that allows you to scan and come up with available access points [17:25] hey Gotango [17:26] aha [17:26] also strength and signal through put etc [17:27] cost per dish? [17:27] lots of software tools to make it easier [17:27] they are quite pricey i think about R2500.00 [17:28] eeek [17:28] mm not cheap [17:28] there are other options that are slightly cheaper ut not by much [17:29] s/ut/but [17:30] yagi [17:30] ill still get to finishing mine [17:30] need another brazing rod [17:30] 5 elements short5 [17:31] i see the prices here are cheaper http://www.dbg.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=1_69_96&products_id=642 [17:32] ya but your way you need to supply both dishes [17:35] i want to reach a telkom hotspot about 8 ks away but we are in a dip so not sure how high the mast must be [17:38] there is no guarantee that is going to work [17:39] if i can get line of site with nothing in between it will, im sure [17:39] they usually want you to be local to the hotspot, and generally they run at 2.4Ghz [17:39] not serious the costs to me are minimal [17:39] well it will be interesting to find out [17:39] ya i designed the yagi for 2.4g [17:40] i want to try a satellite dish with those dipole antenna [17:41] ya that works too [17:41] how far must yours work [17:42] at these high frequencies line of site is important [17:42] well i am going to have my adsl line in town it will probable be about 1.5 - 2 km [17:43] oh thats close [17:44] you can use a wifi antenna with a nice dome shaped chrome dish out of the kitchen [17:44] yup right around the corner, just far enough to not get a phone line, since that does not run line of sight [17:45] you can take a wifi card and just extend the coax to the aerial [17:46] must be 50 ohm coax [17:46] there are lots of options [17:46] much thinner than tv cable [17:48] all wifi uses 50 ohm coax [17:52] dishes are the answer if one has the cash [17:54] hi psychicist [17:55] this is a second hand one that i got from a local dstv installer [17:55] hi Kilos [17:55] hi magespawn [17:56] hi psychicist [17:56] good idea that mage i have 2 and no dstv [17:56] decoder packed up just after i came here [17:57] just need to work on the correct distance from the dish [17:58] just found this website http://www.saflii.org.za/ [17:58] yeah [17:58] hi psychicist [17:58] i cant browse now data near gone [17:59] save that link for me please [17:59] it is a legal site with case law etc from south africa [17:59] ian got me data 2 weeks back and when i tried to use it today it said invalid [17:59] grrr [18:01]