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coventry`It was just a bash/supervisor syntax difference.  Different environments. :-)00:00
Al___hitsujiTMO:  Ok, done.00:02
bloopletechI'm trying to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10, and do-release-upgrade says there is no newer version. /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades already has Prompt=normal00:02
hitsujiTMOdemophobia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Package_Dependencies a dependency is a require prerequisite in order for the software to work. a recommend is not required for it to work but may add extra functionality00:02
hitsujiTMOAl___: so do you get the launcher now when logging in?00:03
k1lbloopletech: what does "lsb_release -a" give you?00:03
k1lbloopletech: and "uname -a"00:03
Al___hitsujiTMO:  Yes.  I do.00:03
hitsujiTMOAl___: sweet. now for cuda is there a specific version you need that you were trying to install from nvidia site?00:04
Al___hitsujiTMO:  Not that I'm aware of.00:05
hitsujiTMOAl___: or is any version suitable?00:05
Viking667xilence: ... hullo?00:06
hitsujiTMOAl___: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue00:06
Al___hitsujiTMO:  Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l00:07
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Al___hitsujiTMO:  GPU is GeForce GTX 77000:08
hitsujiTMOAl___: ok. first thing. 13.04 support is ending withing the next 2 weeks. (not sure of the exact date). so you should consider updating to 13.10 as the repos will be no longer accessible after that.00:08
hitsujiTMOAl___: just gonna check what cuda is available from the repo. 2 secs00:09
pnunnhitsujiTMO: what's the command to do the dist-upgrade from the command line? Can't remember.00:10
demophobiahitsujiTMO, thanks00:10
k1lpnunn: sudo do-release-upgrade00:11
hitsujiTMOpnunn: as in do-release-upgrade ?00:11
pnunnThankyou folks.00:11
Al___hitsujiTMO:  I think I'm going to owe you a beer or... something.00:11
hitsujiTMOAl___: lol :)00:11
hitsujiTMOapt-cache show Al___00:12
Viking667sigh. I need to depart. I'll be back later.00:12
hitsujiTMOdoh, wc00:12
Al___hitsujiTMO:  E:  No packages found00:12
freshminthey i have a bunch of AVI files created about 2 years back. now i encoded them and i like to associate the dates of the encoded files with the dates of the original AVI files00:13
freshmintany idea how to do this in bash. i already created a script for the encoding part . so i can easily use the basic structure of it for resetting the last modified dates00:14
bloopletechk1l: http://pastebin.com/cW9vVVZs00:16
Gambit--trism, that did it, thanks.00:16
k1lbloopletech: now please "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"00:17
hitsujiTMOAl___: ok both raring and saucy have 5.0. its in the package nvidia-cuda-toolkit ... I'd presume you need to install the nvidia driver too, since you're using a 770, maybe the nvidia-319 would be the best choice.                if you want a later version of cuda you will need to install from another source, but doing so is not straight forward as it seems the nvidia module and the cuda modules need to be compiled with 2 different versions00:18
hitsujiTMOof gcc. hence why its recommended to use prepackaged versions00:18
bloopletechk1l: http://pastebin.com/k4C5WhCs (thanks for the help, btw)00:18
freshminthmm probably stat and touch will do the job00:18
k1lbloopletech: hmm, looks good  so far. now do a "sudo do-release-upgrade" that should initiate the 13.10 upgrade00:21
bloopletechk1l: http://pastebin.com/0URahMsy :(00:21
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bloopletechCould it be the mirror I'm using or something? I'm using the aarnet Australia mirrors00:22
thom_rFlash will stop working this April in Chromium. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-201400:22
Al___hitsujiTMO:  I'm fine with an older version of CUDA.  I remember the NVIDIA*.run file that I downloaded required gcc 4.2 (which was horribly difficult to track down for my OS).00:22
k1lbloopletech: hmm, maybe the servers have a problem. go to the systemsettings and then to updates etc and then switch servers to the main-server00:22
hitsujiTMOAl___: ok, then give nvidia-cuda-toolkit a shot and good luck. there may be someone else here who has used it who might be able to give you further pointers00:24
MagiobiwanQuick Question: How do I get back to the "GUI" Virtual Console on the Ubuntu Server 13.10 netinstall CD?00:24
jimhey RedDeath00:24
jimnice to see you again00:24
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MagiobiwanI had to switch to console 4 to discover that it's actually eth0 plugged in on my server and not eth100:25
MagiobiwanBut Ctrl + Alt + F7 isn't doing anything00:25
daftykinsMagiobiwan: alt+F7 or F800:25
daftykinsjust go through all function keys00:25
Al___hitsujiTMO:  Alright.  Thank you.  Do you have a paypal account that I can dump about $10 into? (That should be enough to buy you some beer, or something)00:25
bloopletechk1l: do-release-upgrade -d seems to be working00:26
MagiobiwanI did find that Ctrl + Alt + F3 tells my laptop to "turn off external display" though00:26
Magiobiwan:P00:26
hitsujiTMOAl___: i don't. give it to charity instead00:26
k1lbloopletech: did you switch the servers?00:26
Al___Alright.  Well... again, thank you.00:27
hitsujiTMOAl___: no problems00:27
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bloopletechk1l: yeah, but that on it's own didn't change anything00:27
jimmy_RedDeath: E-mail me at predator@windowslive.com when you get the chance.00:28
MagiobiwanThe only other console that does anything is Virtual Console 300:28
tony13fuckyou dirty fucking dirty cocksuckers00:28
gordonjcptony13: did you have an Ubuntu support question?00:28
tony13fuckyou00:29
daftykinsit would seem he does not00:29
MagiobiwanIndeed00:29
tony13fuck you too00:29
tony13+who is your fucvk freind f00:30
MagiobiwanGod I hate this IPMI00:30
daftykins!ops | tony1300:30
ubottutony13: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!00:30
MagiobiwanApparently it's TTY1 by the way00:30
thom_rhi tony1300:30
Al___hitsujiTMO:  Ah, unity needed to be reset.  Ok.  Everything is up and running, now.00:30
thom_rdang it00:30
* Magiobiwan tells Ubuntu to use eth0 instead of eth100:31
pkillpeershello guys. what do you think its the best? gufw or firestarter?00:33
gordonjcppkillpeers: neither00:33
gordonjcppkillpeers: are you running a server?00:33
pkillpeersno. desktop ubuntu for personal usage00:34
gordonjcppkillpeers: if you're using a desktop machine, you're almost certainly behind NAT and a firewall is just going to make your life miserable00:34
gordonjcpthere's no point in having a firewall on a desktop00:34
pkillpeersoh ok then :)00:34
pkillpeersthanks for the tip00:35
gordonjcppkillpeers: if your modem plugs directly in and your desktop has a real live internet-facing IP address, then yes, you need a firewall00:36
gordonjcpyou also need your head examined00:36
daftykinsthat is not your normal friendly tone, gordonjcp!00:36
gordonjcpdaftykins: :-p00:36
pkillpeersnah im behind nat00:37
MagiobiwanAlso eth0 is funky. What...00:37
hitsujiTMOMagiobiwan: define "funky"00:38
MagiobiwanApparently it doesn't work either00:39
* Magiobiwan checks he typed in his IP Allocation properly00:39
hitsujiTMOMagiobiwan: what chipset is it?00:40
MagiobiwanOne moment while I yell at the IPMI00:40
MagiobiwanSuperMicro IPMI = horrible00:41
MagiobiwanIntel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection00:41
xilence@Viking667 my max res is 1024 x 768 in xrandr00:41
virhilohi guys00:41
xilencehi00:42
virhiloi have some weird issue00:42
virhilofresh install of 13.1000:42
xilencewhat's it?00:42
hitsujiTMOMagiobiwan: what version?00:42
MagiobiwanhitsujiTMO, of Ubuntu? 13.10 server netinstall00:43
virhiloand nvidia drivers freezing after grub before asking for cryptsetup passphraze(just after loding initial ramdisk)00:43
hitsujiTMOMagiobiwan: that should be covered ok by the e1000e driver in the kernel then. what oddities are you getting?00:43
bloopletechI'm a bit confused, I've got the upgrade notification for saucy to appear now, but it's saying it's a BETA release... saucy shipped a couple months ago didn't it?00:44
virhiloweird thing that enabling buildin graphics makes it work(sometimes, but allways in recovery mode)00:44
virhilono clue how to debug this00:44
psusibloopletech, yep, and raring is now end of life00:44
bloopletechpsusi: yeah, that's why I'm upgrading... but wonder why I'm getting the BETA notice00:45
hitsujiTMObloopletech: did you pull the iso from?00:45
MagiobiwanI'm putting in my CIDR netmask and it's configuring it supposedly correctly00:46
psusibloopletech, have you not run/updated the system in the last few months?00:46
MagiobiwanDHCP doesn't work00:46
bloopletechhitsujiTMO, sorry? I installed raring from an iso downloaded from ubuntu.com, I ran updates last this morning00:46
virhiloit even gets weirder, i installed the same ubuntu image on same machine 3 days ago and it worked perfectly(even played some games) then left it off for few days and got suprised with black screen, same as after fresh install now(windows 7 which i rarely use on that box work fine so no hardware issues)00:46
bloopletechI'm fairly sure it was the ordinary release iso, not a dev release00:46
hitsujiTMObloopletech: ahh sorry wrong person00:46
bloopletechah no worries00:47
hitsujiTMOMagiobiwan: maybe this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1018561 ?00:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 1018561 in linux (Ubuntu) "e1000e needs updating due to 82574L keeps dropping RX packets" [Medium,Incomplete]00:47
psusibloopletech, yes, but was that the first time you've updated since saucy was released?  if so it may have failed since raring is already end of life and so you're still running off outdated packages from when saucy was still in beta00:47
MagiobiwanhitsujiTMO, I ssupect I'm misconfiguring the network00:47
bloopletechpsusi: nah, this is my daily machine so I run updates at least every few weeks00:48
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hitsujiTMOMagiobiwan: ahh, that would make more sense considering that bug should be fixed in the kernel you are using00:48
bloopletechI can dump some sort of apt log or something to show00:48
TJ- 00:49
bloopletechtbh, if the message is just wrong and it's the normal saucy release then I don't mind ignoring it. Just want to make sure I'm not going to somehow upgrade to a prerelease version00:49
PatrickDickeyAny ideas why GRUB (efi) would only "find" an older kernel for Fedora? I've got a triple boot (Windows 8, Ubuntu, and Fedora 19). GRUB only shows the 3.9.x kernel for Fedora, even though I have the 3.12.x kernels installed.00:50
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MagiobiwanHa00:51
hitsujiTMOPatrickDickey: whats the output you're getting for: sudo op-prober00:52
MagiobiwanHA. EAT THAT NETINSTALL. It was configuring my network wrong00:52
MagiobiwanManual Config FTW00:52
TJ-PatrickDickey: Because grub works on the kernel versions known to initramfs-tools via "/var/lib/initramfs-tools/" entries. To add 'foreign' kernels, you have to do something like "update-initramfs -c -k <foreign-kernel-version>" if I recall correctly00:54
PatrickDickeyhitsujiTMO: I'm assuming you meant sudo os-prober, right?00:55
hitsujiTMOPatrickDickey: yes, yes i did. sorry for the typo00:56
PatrickDickeyTJ-: Would initramfs-tools (in Trusty) know about the 3.12.x series kernels?00:56
TJ-PatrickDickey: I was playing with this stuff about a month ago, my memory is hazy now, but I dug into the code to figure it out when I had a trial of Trusty installed alongside my stable install (I use LVMs per rootfs, and a combined /boot/ partition00:57
TeraJLon ubuntu 12.04, when i put youtube videos in fullscreen 720p it get weird lines like some parts(pixels) are cut off or a little out of place, both on video and buttons and time number (chrome+flash)00:58
PatrickDickeyhitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6747901 is the results of os-prober00:58
bloopletechTeraJL, you mean like the top part of the image is slightly to the left or right of the bottom part00:58
bloopletechand does it tend to happen on fast moving scenes and not slow ones?00:59
psusibloopletech, message is just wrong, go ahead and upgrade00:59
bloopletechpsusi: awesome, thanks :)00:59
MagiobiwanIs there ANY way to remove the LVM you create in the partitioning wizard?00:59
psusiMagiobiwan, what do you mean?00:59
MagiobiwanThe guided partitioning didn't mak eit the way I needed it, and I can't remove it to do it again01:00
psusiMagiobiwan, how do you need it?  If you need it special you will need to start over and do manual partitioning01:00
MagiobiwanWonderful01:00
TeraJLhttp://i.imgur.com/gtcAsVt.png where you can see some weird glitches, on windows it appeared just fine01:01
TeraJL720p01:01
* Magiobiwan prepares to murder the IPMI on his server01:01
bloopletechTeraJL, you mean the white bar in the 'Angry Joe' thingy at the bottom?01:02
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MagiobiwanMaybe I can go back and do it again after it installs the base system...01:03
psusiMagiobiwan, how do you need it?  you need to start over and do manual if you need it special01:04
TeraJLbloopletech: you can see for exemple, the word "humble" as a cut on the M, the black bar on the bottom has some glitches, the video looks low quality, the 9 in "Number 9" is weird.. on the picture it doesn't seem much, but if you watch the video on lower size(same quality), or watch on windows(same quality and screen size), i don't get any of those glitches01:05
MagiobiwanI need 2GB /boot, 16GB swap (server will be used for hosting VMs), and 64GB /01:05
MagiobiwanThen the rest unconfigured LVM01:05
psusiMagiobiwan, what do you need a /boot for?01:06
TeraJLthe glithes are always on the same places, it's like some lines that get distorted on the same place while on fullscreen01:06
aFeijomy sidebar/launcher sometimes (like now) lose all but 1 icon colors. Its all grayed and hard to see. How to fix this?01:06
bloopletechTeraJL, ok, sorry it's not the issue I thought it was. I'm not sure what it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a video driver issue01:06
TJ-Magiobiwan: Why 2GB for /boot/ ? Are you intending to keep all older kernel/initrd.img sets?01:06
Magiobiwanpsusi, I might accidentally fill / with ISOs01:06
psusiMagiobiwan, what's that got to do with /boot?01:07
MagiobiwanTJ-, I'm going to be adding SystemRescueCD to the OS list in Grub01:07
TeraJL bloopletech, i can play games just fine, and the screen looks perfect, even on videos on VLC(fullscreen)01:07
MagiobiwanAnd unpacking it to /boot01:07
MagiobiwanSo if I ever NEED it, I don't have to murder IPMI several times01:07
bloopletechTeraJL, oh, I'm sure you can, but flash tends not to play very nicely with video drivers01:07
psusiMagiobiwan, once you set that up it shouldn't matter if you fill / later01:07
bloopletechlike, I get vertical tearing, but only in flash and fullscreen, everything else is fine01:08
TeraJLon firefox seems better01:08
bloopletechhmm can you try opting into the html5 option on youtube? that might fix some of them anyway01:08
psusiMagiobiwan, I suggest forgoing /boot entirely, but yea, you will need to start over and set up lvm by hand before running the installer for what you want01:09
psusiand pick manual partitioning01:09
closinginhi all.01:09
TJ-Magiobiwan: I'd recommend you reduce rootfs to around 10G and use LVM, and have a 10G LV for /var/, a larger LV for /home/, and then another for /home/all/ where you can keep shared stuff like ISOs, and a separate VG for the Virtual machine images. I'd also recommend a RAID1 mirror set if this thing is vital.01:09
MagiobiwanI'd do RAID 1 if I had more than 1 drive in the server01:09
psusiTJ-, why a separate /var?01:09
psusiraid10 > raid1 ;)01:10
MagiobiwanAs it is now I have a 1TB HD. I can't have a 2nd put in unless I want to pay another $20/mo01:10
Magiobiwan:(01:10
* rootpt is back.01:10
closinginI installed ubuntu, but after boot, a "xrandr" tells me that : http://pastebin.com/SPRQp58v01:10
closinginBy the way, i have hybrid amd/intel graphics.01:10
closinginubuntu thinks i have two monitors, but i only have one !01:11
MagiobiwanSo there's no way to go back to partitioning?01:11
closinginCan someone help me with this issue ?01:11
psusiMagiobiwan, maybe but it will be faster to reboot and just start over01:11
TJ-psusi: To prevent the rootfs accidentally being over-run by root processes filling /var/01:11
TeraJLon chrome://plugins/ i force the 11.2 instead of 11.9 flash , and seems better01:11
psusiTJ-, why does such an unlikely event matter?01:12
Magiobiwanpsusi, that's debatable. It really depends on if I can get the server to boot to the IPMI virtual CDROM on my first try01:12
TeraJLsome flashing green screens while switching but it's better01:12
TJ-psusi: Because it happens; had to deal with it many times on servers with run-away logs and cache/spool issues01:12
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aFeijomy sidebar/launcher sometimes (like now) lose all but 1 icon colors. Its all grayed and hard to see. How to fix this?01:13
Magiobiwan/var is where the ISO templates are stored actually01:13
TJ-Magiobiwan: I do a lot of distributed building and have a separate LV for /var/cache/ccache01:14
bloopletechI'm trying to upgrade raring -> saucy, and the updater is aborting... is there an easy way to see which ppas are blocking my upgrade?01:17
daftykinsany you've added won't be helping01:17
MagiobiwanOhmygod the IPMI seems to be working01:17
closinginNobody can help me ?01:17
bloopletechok, so another question is there a way to bulk purge them? or do I have to ppa-purge each individual repo?01:17
zacariasCan anyone help solving a problem on a Macbook running Ubuntu 12.04.3 (DreamStudio), in which no sound comes out from the headphones nor external loudspeakers? I tried to change things in Alsa Mixer and Sound settings, but with no luck. It does mute the bilt-in speakers and it recognizes the phones (in the sound settings), but no sound comes out from.. I think it has something do to with drivers or alsa drivers: it has a NVIDIA driver, whi01:18
zacarias12.04.3) has a Intel and it works out of the box01:18
bloopletechzacarias, 12.04 uses pulseaudio right? you should probably be checking the inputs/outputs in System Settings rather than the alsamixer01:19
bloopletechyou might have the wrong sound output selected01:19
rww(yes, it does)01:19
PatrickDickeyOk, so this is odd. I dug into the grub.cfg file, and the 3.12.x kernel is listed under advanced options for Fedora 19. I have to actually edit the command to find the right one. :S01:20
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PatrickDickeybloopletech: I believe you have to purge them individually. Unless you want to manually edit your sources.01:22
zacariasbloopletech: I checked that first. I also cheched (but not quite thoroughly) with pulse audio mixer. Nothing works for the moment.01:22
bloopletechPatrickDickey, I'm fine with manually editing ... but I have to purge first right?01:22
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PatrickDickeybloopletech: I believe that the ppa-purge does that for you. But, I think it also removes any files that were installed using the ppa (or at least cleans the cache). Don't quote me on that though, as I've only used it a couple of times.01:23
AlecTaylorhi01:23
AlecTaylorMy keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work! - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219942101:24
bloopletechzacarias, hmm that sucks. I'm using 13.04 on a mid 2012 MBP and my sound works fine... so in the output setting for the sound control panel, there's no 'headphones' entry? Or you select that entry and it doesn't work?01:24
bloopletechPatrickDickey, thanks for the help01:24
bloopletechzacarias, do the internal speakers work?01:24
zacariasbloopletech: There's a headphones entry, it's like if everything was ok. But no sound comes from it (neither headphones nor external speakers). The internal speakers work01:30
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demophobiais mplayer the name as Movie Player?01:31
urdaexit01:43
urdawhoops sorry01:43
Creamyso who uses a firewall with ubuntu?01:49
somsipCreamy: just ask the real question and anyone who knows will answer01:52
CreamySTFU01:54
Creamythe real question is why are you such a fuktard01:54
CreamyI bet you have anal beads hanging out your ass right now01:55
somsip!attitude | Creamy01:55
ubottuCreamy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines01:55
Creamysorry daddy01:55
AlecTaylorMy keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219942101:56
* Magiobiwan sighs and murders his server's IPMI01:57
MagiobiwanAgain01:57
Rick_UbuntuI am looking for a opensource video editor that will allow me to sync sound from an external recorder01:59
Rick_Ubuntuanyone have any ideas?01:59
somsipRick_Ubuntu: don't know about the support for external sources, but cinelerra, handbrake and lives are all possibilities02:01
IdleOneRick_Ubuntu: take a look at OpenShot02:04
Rick_UbuntuOpen shot does not allow me to sync audio I cant link the media from one device to another in the same timeline.02:04
IdleOnesorry, then I don't know02:06
IdleOneRick_Ubuntu: you might try asking in #ubuntustudio also02:07
TJ-Rick_Ubuntu: I think it is (used to be) possible to separate the audio from the video and move it within the timeline... 'unlock' maybe?02:07
Rick_UbuntuTJ you mean unlock in OPENSHOT.  if that is a feature it is not readily visible.02:08
TJ-Rick_Ubuntu: It's a while ago since I hacked on that project, so maybe its not there or I'm mis-remembering02:08
xilence@viking66702:20
xilencehey....02:20
Viking667welcome back.02:20
xilenceSo you wanna take a guess at what happened or shall I tell you? :p02:21
darius93is there a way to snap windows horizontally?02:34
GEDTMORwhy would you want to do that?02:34
darius93with me being a developer, having a program split down when pulling it to the corner doesnt show everything i wish for it to show as to having it going across i can02:35
darius93if that made any sense02:35
GEDTMORupstream knows better dont get any ideas02:35
widdershinsThis may be an odd question... but it's worth a shot. Myself and the missus are moving into a new house soon in a community with no broadband. Could I order multiple (3?) telephone lines and multiple (3) dialup connections into a box with that many 56.6k dialup modems. Could I make a modem-bank server using ubuntu to then feed the bandwidth-sharing system over wireless to give my house something sensible? I know it could be a pricy subscription...02:36
widdershinsbut I'm wondering if it is posisble. :)02:36
xanguadarius93: If you have CompizSsettings Manager installed, check the Grid plugin02:36
darius93thanks xangua. let me go on and install that now02:37
GEDTMORyou need to have a 3d capble card02:37
somsipwiddershins: it's possible. Try searching for 'ubuntu multilink' as I see lots of results, though none for modems are particularly recent02:38
darius93I do GEDTMOR02:38
somsipdanielbw: do you use unity? http://is.gd/PQlMx402:39
widdershinsthanks so much, somsip!02:41
bloopletechwiddershins, it's possible, I think the kind of search terms you want are 'bonded line' etc. Though, depending upon where you are there may be thinks like 3G/HSDPA internet connections, and microwave or sattelite links. Any of those is likely to give you better perf than modems02:41
otakuHey guys I need a hand with making a button in unity that exec a script02:41
somsipotaku: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141229/how-to-add-a-shell-script-to-launcher-as-shortcut02:42
otakusomsip: ok let me double check against that.  I have pretty sure I used that guide.  I make sure I haven't typo'd02:44
bloopletechwiddershins, also, the phone line may support broadband, but merely not be connected yet. I would consider that as well... actually, if you're able to have telephone lines put in, why not just have the telecom company put in a new line that you can run broadband on?02:44
Viking667what do I need to add custom resolutions to Ubuntu on startup?02:44
somsipViking667: a custom xorg.conf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config02:46
Viking667ugh.02:46
Viking667so the desktop has no way to do so, hm?02:46
Viking667cos I just hosed some guys login02:47
Viking667thankfully he's got it back.02:47
somsipViking667: AIUI, the desktop takes all of its settings from the real config files02:47
AlecTaylorhi02:48
AlecTaylorMy keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219942102:48
otakusomsip: Hi, I have just double checked and I think I have done it correctly.  This is my unity file which I have put at /usr/share/applications/           http://pastebin.com/mhayTXeG02:49
somsipAlecTaylor: have you discounted that this is a hardware issue?02:49
BeldarAlecTaylor, Have you tried the guest account or made a new user to see if this persists there? Anything leading up to this?02:50
Viking667somsip: yeah, well in this case, there IS no /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:50
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Viking667... that's why I actually asked.02:50
somsipotaku: if the file has chmod +x that's looks okay to me, but I have no experience of unity so maybe best to check with someone who has02:50
somsipViking667: it's not created by default any more.02:50
otakusomsip: ok thank you.  Do you recommend another channel ?02:51
somsipotaku: here is fine, just if there are not many people to help ,you might not get your answer. I guess you have restarted unity to get it to find the new shortcut file?02:51
otakusomsip: ahh no you I used update database and I have the icon.  but it doesn't load02:52
otakusomsip: this is my bash script http://pastebin.com/LGGXbWGS02:52
otakusomsip: I have checked before files are marked x02:53
somsipotaku: ok - show how much I know about unity then :) I'd question if gksu is the right thing to use in a terminal script, but like I say - I don't know unity at all so maybe this is right02:54
otakusomsip: thank you mate02:55
Viking667so. Where would I put stuff I want run each time I log in/02:55
Viking667I've heard of .xinit02:55
Viking667err, .xinitrc  or .xsession02:55
somsipViking667: what sort of stuff? X related I guess?02:55
Viking667yeah, to add custom resolutions02:55
Viking667i.e. 1280x1024 when the xorg server's not finding them for itself.02:56
somsipViking667: in the xorg.conf, like I said02:56
Viking667somsip: err, the user I'm dealing with doesn't know how to make one of those.02:56
somsipViking667: erm...well, that's the place to put them AFAIK02:56
Viking667and I've already botched one setup.02:56
mat_64Hi, could someone help me. I'm looking for an tool to use my laptop cam as barcode/QRcode reader.02:57
Viking667I tried putting a Section "Monitor" ..... into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10_monitor.conf    except then he couldn't log in, as the xserver died.02:57
somsipViking667: last time I had to set one up manually, it was tricky. There are lots of other links on that page I linked to earlier. I believe there is a Xconfig --configurate (or something that escapes me) that generates a default conf for you to build from. Sorry - need to go out so can't help more02:58
Viking667ahhh, right.02:58
somsipVi good luck anyhow02:58
AlecTaylorsomsip: It's not a hardware issue; rebooted into Windows and everything works fine here02:59
AlecTaylorBeldar: Haven't tried a new user, would the guest user suffice for testing?02:59
somsipAlecTaylor: k - sorry but I need to afk. I can't help more for now02:59
AlecTaylorBeldar: Nothing leading up to this; last thing I remember installing was Kate02:59
AlecTaylorMy keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219942102:59
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otakuDoes anyone else have experience in unity buttons ?03:05
Viking667yay.03:11
xilence:p03:11
cardososomebody ?03:17
Logan_!ask | cardoso03:17
ubottucardoso: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:17
slorbastHey all, looking for some software solutions - Audio streaming server for Ubuntu + Android audio receiver software that work well together.03:18
BeldarAlecTaylor, I would try the guest account a new user can be made with the user app and removed easily, a live environment is another test. You want cover some variables basically by seeing if it is your user only.03:18
slorbastBasically, I want to take a video and ffmpeg to get the audio and stream that audio at a low bitrate to my android (data cap)03:18
SchrodingersScatslorbast: pre-convert then host on owncloud?03:23
xilenceSo guys, how do I know which monitor is being used for my xorg.config?03:23
somsipslorbast: do you need to use ffmpeg or is that just an option?03:23
xilenceI only have one monitor.03:23
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slorbastSchrodingersScat, somsip, will also be using livestreamer to grab live video, convert in real time to audio, then serve it up at low audio bitrate for my bandwidth limited device03:24
somsipslorbast: no idea then.03:26
login_oi03:27
login_xoxer03:28
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slorbastApparently shoutcast still exists and hasn't faded into obscurity, not sure if it's premier for Ubuntu though, worth a shot.03:30
rawfodogwhats the name of that program that automatically installs skype on ubuntu ? I forget. It installs some other things that are usually a pain in the butt aswell03:39
somsiprawfodog: sudo apt-get install skype (after enabling partner repos) is all you need03:41
rawfodogk :)03:42
rawfodogI found the deb on the official skype site. Thanks a lot !03:42
ZiberSo, I ran a few basic updates on today for my laptop, running 13.10. The only sound output my computer now recognizes is the HDMI port for my external monitor. System settings still sees my speakers and can play sounds through those, but pulseaudio can't. Any thoughts?03:42
guest___Quick question - what do I need to do or install bfore downloading and installing Gecko Media Player?03:48
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somsip!info gecko-mediaplayer03:49
ubottugecko-mediaplayer (source: gecko-mediaplayer): Multimedia plug-in for Gecko browsers. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8-4ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 218 kB, installed size 676 kB03:49
somsipguest___: install it from the repo instead03:49
guest___somsip - Do you mean to install it from the Ubuntu Software Center or from its main site?03:50
somsipguest___: from Sopftware Center03:51
guest___somsip - Okay.03:51
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androidfr33kI have this Western Digital Drive  and for some reason when I partition it during the Ubuntu live 64 bit installation it is leaving me with 1 mb free space before my /dev/sda1 /boot and 1mb free space at the end?  I get a warning about My partition orally requires me to create a separate partition for the bootloader04:00
mdevhttp://pastebin.com/Mhn8tbBG04:00
mdevhow do I fix that? am using ubuntu 12.0404:00
androidfr33kIt goes on to say that the 1mb partition us a reserved Bios Boot area and not the same as /boot04:00
androidfr33kIts one of the newer drives not SSD or hybrid but a newer type of disk forgot the name04:01
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somsipandroidfr33k: searches seem to imply to leave it alone. Best to check WD support page with the model for your drive. This isn't really an ubuntu support issue04:03
mdevno one knows?04:05
mdevsays it has dependancies but it won't install them? really?04:05
Beldarmdev, How about a context.04:05
guest______I would like to install the Deepin Software Center for Ubuntu 12.04.  Will this replace the default Ubuntu Software Center?04:06
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Beldarguest______, Not sure in your question, however it is a 3rd party and not supported. If you have problems you are on your own here.04:09
Beldarguest______, I would not do it, but I use apt-get never the software center.04:10
guest______I am referring to this page for the terminal commands for version 3.0 of Deepin Software Center:  http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/deepin-software-center-version-30-and.html04:12
zane001hi04:12
cfhowlettznegreetings04:13
guest______I just want to know if those terminal commands would be safe to execute and not delete the default Ubuntu Software Center.04:13
cfhowlettguest______, learn to use apt-get and leave 3rd party substitutes alone04:14
guest______cfhowlett - okay.04:15
kriskropdis anyone here familair with SANE? I built SANE 1.0.22 followign these really simplified instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompileSaneFromSource however I'm having an issue with permissions - only root can use the scanner device, but unlike the guide's suggestions, including my scanner in /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules (where it was already included, actually) didn't resolve anything04:16
kriskropds/root/sudo04:16
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ZiberWhy is the time/date missing from my status bar at the top of my screen? How can I put it back?04:19
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FloodBot1Exsquire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:19
mdevthink your floodbot needs to be tweaked04:20
mdevas that's a pretty slow response time04:20
MagiobiwanThose ALL were sent in the same second04:20
MagiobiwanSo04:20
MagiobiwanYeah04:20
DiamondciteMore surprised excess flood didn't trigger on the IRCD04:23
MagiobiwanDiamondcite, it wasn't a SUPER big flood04:25
q0problem with CVS hanging with checkout, any ideas ?04:26
q0it always hangs at the same directory every time04:26
q0what the flying fuck, it's TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN04:27
somsip!language | q004:27
ubottuq0: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:27
q0i'm really sorry04:27
somsipq0: so, how is this an ubuntu issue? I'm not getting that from what you've said so far04:27
cfhowlettq0, error messages MIGHT help a diagnosis as the IRC crystal ball is out for repairs04:29
Magiobiwancfhowlett, I already said sorry for dropping it04:29
MagiobiwanWHO KNEW that glass breaks when its dropped04:29
cfhowlettMagiobiwan, :)04:29
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BjizzleI'm so frustrated right now.04:33
BjizzleI cant install nvidia drivers. It says building kernel module failed04:33
mdevtry googling the errors and your distro version04:34
DF3D2Is there anyway to send an email when I get a specific pop up sent from DBUS ????04:34
guest______Where can I go to paste references of my terminal window so I can get help?04:34
somsip!paste | guest______04:34
ubottuguest______: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:34
Guest93421How to increase concurrent sessions in a remote desktop connection via xrdp04:36
guest______I don't understand what this is telling me.  Could somebody help?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748631/04:38
Ben64guest______: you have that package in the 32bit version and its conflicting with the one you're now trying to install04:38
cfhowlettguest______, the correct response is "d'oh!"04:39
guest______I installed from the Ubuntu Software Center the Linux Standard Base 4.0 Printing package.04:39
guest______Ben64, you are saying that the 32 bit version is currently installed?04:40
guest______If so, how do I remove it?04:40
Ben64guest______: thats what the error message you posted said04:40
guest______Ben64 - how do I remove the 32 bit version?04:42
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starkshi, i'm a little confused about the EFI partition. if i am dual-booting, do i need to overwrite that partition or simply add to it? i want to remove all the clutter from it but not lose my windows 8.1 booting04:42
Beldar!uefi | starks04:43
ubottustarks: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI04:43
starksi've been through that... it doesn't really explain how to perform maintenance on it or how to deal with reinstalls in a dual-boot scenario04:44
Beldarstarks, Maintenance? It addresses dualboots.04:45
Beldarreinstalls of what?04:45
Ben64guest______: ubuntu software center04:45
starksBeldar, reinstalls of whatever linux distro i want04:47
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starksshould the parition be formatted (lose all boot entries?) or manually cleaned without a format?04:47
starksbecause my refind/gummu/efistub is a complete mess04:47
Beldarstarks, Some linux have the uefi shim some don't, if you have another OS than ubuntu in mind you would want to confer with them is all.04:47
starksbut i cannot afford to lose my windows efi04:47
StratumIs there an easy way to remove unity and replace it with standard GNOME 3?04:48
xangua!nounity | Stratum04:48
ubottuStratum: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic04:48
Beldarstarks, You should have the pertinent W8 partitions imaged/cloned if you want to be sure to be safe.04:48
StratumThanks, xangua04:49
FireBeyondI'm trying to set up a mirror using apt-mirror. Despite using 'set defaultarch i386' in mirror.list (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748650/) - I'm only getting 64 bit bins (i'm using deb and deb-amd64).04:49
starksis it simply enough to save the windows efi file? would a startup repair restore it?04:49
BeldarStratum, unity run on top of gnome 3, you can just install the gnome-shell for the gnome 3 desktop, unity is tiny, not worth removing.04:49
Beldarruns*04:50
StratumI don't like it though.04:50
StratumIt looks like shit.04:50
StratumAHHHH04:50
FloodBot1Stratum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:50
StratumI didn't meant that.04:50
StratumIt's displeasing to my eye. :P04:50
Beldarstarks, I would not rely on the reload partition on the HD, I would clone all the windows partitions.04:51
starkshmmm04:51
Beldarstarks, You want to be prepared for any scenario04:52
Beldarstarks, Chances are you can get a OEM disc set from the manufacture at a low price, mine was 30$ US for W7, that is another protection, and then just do backups.04:54
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starksthanks04:54
BeldarI like clones myself it's a fast fix in any case04:55
HDRDanny!nounity04:55
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic04:55
HDRDannySo, what do I do after that?04:59
HDRDannyWill it remove Unity?04:59
xanguaHDRDanny: no, why are you so obsessed about it¿ If you don't want a trace of unity download and install ubuntu gnome05:02
Bashing-omHDRDanny: You should not remove unity, just do not use it, chsose a differrent DE at login.05:02
Temperi have a script in /etc/init.d that works from sudo service scriptname start.. but it doesn't run on boot, why?05:02
Bashing-om*choose05:02
Temperthere are symlinks in rc2.d - rc5.d...05:03
Tempernothing?05:05
Temperwhat really doesn't make sense is if i init 1 then init 5 the script runs05:09
Guest93421how to change root password in ubuntu05:10
somsip!root | Guest9342105:10
ubottuGuest93421: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:10
Tempersudo passwd root05:10
Temperor just sudo su -05:10
Temperto be root05:10
Guest93421Temper, how to change sudo password...05:11
Temperlol05:11
Temperthe sudo password is the password of the logged in use05:12
Tempererr user05:12
somsipGuest93421: you shouldn't be using it05:12
Guest93421ok05:12
somsipGuest93421: can you explain why you think you need to use it?05:12
Temperyeah.. stay away from the console..05:12
Guest93421somsip, I created user account siva.which i am using now.the password is very weak now i want to change the password....siva is root ..how to change passwd05:14
somsipGuest93421: passwd05:14
Tempersiva is not root05:14
Tempersiva is siva05:14
Temperroot is root..05:14
Guest93421Temper, then how to change password for siva05:14
Temperpasswd05:14
lucasredsn0wFinally...I've done UEFI boot on my computer05:14
Temperlol in linux?05:15
lucasredsn0wAnd with Ubuntu05:15
Tempersweet05:15
somsipGuest93421: Just type 'passwd' to change the password for the current user. You should not be giving a user root privs, but that's your call05:15
Temperhow hard was that?05:15
lucasredsn0wTemper: You see, it cost me nearly 2 weeks05:15
Temperlol05:15
lucasredsn0wThis machine is strange05:15
Tempermy laptop has an option to only allow UEFI booting05:15
lucasredsn0wBut UEFI Ubuntu is a lot faster05:15
lucasredsn0wIt cost 14 seconds on UEFI and 1 second on booting the OS05:16
lucasredsn0wcosts05:16
Guest93421somsip, thank u05:16
Temperanyone know why this script doesn't run on boot? it works with "sudo service script start"05:16
lucasredsn0wTemper: Which one?05:16
Temperand the symlinks are in the rc3.d etc folders05:16
Temperits a script i made05:17
Temperit is designed to setup and format a ramdrive05:17
Temperbut it just doesn't run05:17
lazyg33khello everyone i need help05:17
lazyg33ki just download the new version v.1305:17
lucasredsn0wlazyg33k: Tell us your problem05:17
bsdbandithas anyone got ubuntu configured to authenticate to active directory using kerobse ?05:18
Tempersudo service setupramdrive start works..05:18
lucasredsn0wSetup and format a ramdrive...05:18
Beldar!anyone | bsdbandit05:18
ubottubsdbandit: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.05:18
Temper!foobar | Beldar05:19
lazyg33ktry to install it i  clik f1 to clik for spoken language and do install when i get to the screen it load till the screen begin to flash and just stay there05:19
lazyg33kit just don't load05:19
Tempercrappy bot.. doesn't know what foobar is05:19
Beldarmmm mindless05:19
Temperfoobar scripting...05:20
lazyg33kso i download the v.12 but till i got the same flashing screen05:20
Temperi still don't get why this script doesn't run..05:20
waykool99logged on Ubuntu Studio v13.10 64 bit. 2 questions... selected Gnome Classic GUI. the "old" 10.04, when you right clicked on taskbar, was Properties wText size, Arrows for sliding/hiding Taskbar. how/where is that feature in 13.10?05:20
lucasredsn0wI found nothing about kerobse05:20
lucasredsn0wwaykool99: This seems could not happen in Unity 7 in default05:21
lucasredsn0wI means, without any tweaking05:21
lucasredsn0wmean05:22
waykool9913.10 does occasionally come up with 'Unity' looking left toolbar.05:23
lazyg33kthe 2 iso was download from the official mainsite and i try to install it via usb and dvd option someone have a idea why it won't install ?05:23
lucasredsn0wlazyg33k: Please tell me how you boot them. UEFI or MBR+BIOS?05:23
lazyg33kwhat the diference ?05:24
mynameisdeletedso.. mir display05:24
lazyg33ki suposse is mbr+bios05:24
Bending_SpoonsHi everyone is there a place where non-technical people can go to give feedback?  I don't have Ubuntu installed but I'm interested in Ubuntu Touch.05:24
mynameisdeletedrumors are kubuntu is going with wayland stilll05:24
mynameisdeletedand that mesa wotn accept mir patches upstream05:24
lazyg33kmaybe is because my laptop is amd cpu and gpu inside05:25
somsipmynameisdeleted: not really support issues. Try #ubuntu-offtopic05:25
lucasredsn0wlazyg33k: amd cpu and gpu means nothing05:25
lazyg33kok good its not what i suposed then05:26
lazyg33kso when it get to the purple screen he bug there and do nothing05:26
lucasredsn0wlazyg33k: Can you see GRUB boot menu?05:26
Bashing-omBending_Spoons: register at:http://discourse.ubuntu.com/ They are very bif on touch.05:26
lazyg33kwhen i it f1 yes till he get battery state05:27
somsip!touch | Bending_Spoons05:27
ubottuBending_Spoons: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:27
lazyg33kthen he became at the purple screeen and bug05:27
lucasredsn0wWith something like "Try Ubuntu"05:27
lucasredsn0wYou may press "E" to edit the command05:27
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lucasredsn0wAnd replace all "quiet splash" with "nomodeset", that's how I boot the LiveUSB and begin my installation05:28
lazyg33kok05:28
lazyg33kso when i select laguage i it e key05:28
lazyg33kand enter quiet splash05:28
lucasredsn0wNot there!05:28
lazyg33kha ok05:28
lucasredsn0w...05:28
lucasredsn0wWhen you see the GRUB menu05:28
lazyg33kthe only grub menu i see is when i can hit windows 7 or ubuntu05:29
lucasredsn0wRight05:29
lazyg33kok05:29
lazyg33kso i pres e there05:29
Bending_Spoonsare those places where the people who are creating Ubuntu Touch go to read feedback?05:29
lazyg33kand enter that command05:29
lucasredsn0wnot enter05:29
lazyg33kok05:29
somsipBending_Spoons: go to #ubuntu-touch for discussion05:29
lucasredsn0wReplace all "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"05:30
lazyg33kok05:30
lucasredsn0wJust try it05:30
lazyg33kok itry brb05:30
RandomStrayCatSo I run memtest86+, then mid-test it'll kick me out/reboot and just sit on the intel motherboard splash screen05:33
RandomStrayCatThoughts?05:33
lucasredsn0wWhy do you run memtest86+?05:34
lucasredsn0wAny problem with your RAM?05:34
lucasredsn0w-_-# Strange problem05:35
RandomStrayCatRebuilding an old system, just trouble shooting the whole thing05:36
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Bashing-omBending_Spoons: Discourse is frequented by many of the developers, lots of good info there.05:41
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Temperso i have a script.. in /etc/init.d/ and I ran "update-rc.d script start 99 2 3 4 5 ." and "service script start" works exactly as i want it to.. so why doesn't the script run on boot?05:43
BlueMintHi, I am needing a bit of help with the installation of ubuntu. I currently have about 1TB of data on my HDD that I want to install ubuntu onto, but during the installation it doesn't show that I have anything on it. Here is the fdisk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748830/05:44
BeldarBlueMint, Looks like a got, this a W8 dualboot?05:47
Beldargpt*05:48
BlueMintBeldar: nah, no OS installed on it05:48
BlueMintBeldar: but there is W8 system files on there?05:48
Bashing-omBlueMint: I am not a windows expert, but, does not "HPFS" mean dynamic allocation, windows proprietary such that linux can not touch it (ubuntu is not presently installed !)05:48
BeldarBlueMint, Ah I missed the extended.05:49
bsdbanditi keep getting the following output from my lamp website �5.�Securit� how do i get rid of this05:49
BlueMintBashing-om: yes windows did partition this drive, and no, ubuntu is not currently installed, live booting off a USB05:49
somsipbsdbandit: is this on ubuntu? If so, use paste.ubuntu.com and show the errors on there05:50
bsdbandityes05:50
bsdbanditok05:50
BeldarBlueMint, the hpfs does mean dynamic, ubuntu wont install on it.05:51
BlueMintBeldar: what am I to do to fix this then? ):05:51
bsdbanditthis  is the issue i keep running into http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748855/05:52
somsipbsdbandit: and where is this output?05:52
BeldarBlueMint, Not sure, you would have to get rid of the dynamic, kinda out of the support here.05:52
BlueMintBeldar: damn okay. Thanks for your help though. This is going to be annoying to fix05:52
bsdbanditi keep getting those question marks05:53
bsdbanditwith the outout of my website05:53
somsipbsdbandit: is that it? Nothing to do with ubuntu. Look up character encoding and HTML05:53
bsdbanditok05:53
bsdbandithttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6748863/05:54
gregoryoHi all. On FreeBSD I can 'pkg_create -b' an old installed package (that is now unavailable from sources) into a tarball, then remove it and try out a newer version before removing it and reinstall the old (working) version with pkg_add. I'd like to do something like that on an old Ubuntu box. What are the relevant tools?06:01
Bashing-omBlueMint: I am aware that there is a means to change that HPFS partitioning back to basic, but there is some risk involved, Ya might look on ubuntuforums for a tutorial.06:04
BlueMintBashing-om: the data on there is like 3 years worth of my projects and they're not backed up (they are the backup)06:05
BlueMintBashing-om: so that might not be for me unfortuneately06:06
Bashing-omBlueMint: Sorry not to be able to offer a better solution, All I can say is look on the forum - others have the same problem06:10
BlueMintBashing-om: don't be sorry, you've been very helpful :) Thanks06:10
FoarsSelecting brasero to burn an ISO with, I get a "Size Estimation" dialogue box which reads: "Please wait until the estimation of the size is completed."/"All files need to be analysed to complete this operation." and has a progress bar with no progress. It's been sitting there for quite a while.06:10
Bashing-omBlueMint: \o/06:12
waly_hello guys I need some help06:14
waly_please read this, I link as I am having wifi problem06:15
waly_http://askubuntu.com/questions/405052/wifi-works-on-live-cd-but-not-when-i-boot-from-hd06:15
waly_wifi used to work through live cd but wouldn't work when I would install ubuntu to hd06:15
waly_but now it won't work in live cd either06:15
Beldarwaly_, In the terminal run lspci, find the wifi hardware and post it to the channel.06:16
waly_hello beldar06:16
waly_03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]06:17
Beldarwaly_, Ah realtek, here are the threads on askubuntu. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8101E%2FRTL8102E06:18
waly_is it realtek or intel centrino wireless ?06:19
Beldarwaly_, centrino is a name the realtek info in your thread is actually what it is, not an area I'm real up on however.06:19
marandihi guys , i have Radeon HD 4550 graphic chipset , and ubuntu 13.10 wont recognize proper resolution for my monitor , i try to add resolution with xrandr command but when i restart machine , i got error and display would set on default 1024*768 px .. what should i do ?!06:21
Beldarwaly_, It says realtek ethernet, I assume it is the same for wireless, lspci might confirm this.06:21
waly_03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]06:23
waly_04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)06:23
waly_that is what lspci shows06:23
waly_so what am I supposed to do there06:23
waly_I have been going at this for a while, like over 12 hours06:23
Beldarwaly_, Take a look at this thread notice the helper, they are tops in this area, I would make a thread there as well, it appears the centrino is correct, my mistake. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194135006:24
waly_chili555 is answering my question on askubuntu right now06:25
waly_so hopefully he could help me fix it :)06:25
Ben64waly_: do you have a dual boot system06:25
Beldarwaly_, Score, hehe06:25
waly_no06:27
waly_just ubuntu06:27
waly_I don't want to try windows anymore06:27
waly_I am done with that06:27
waly_I just want to get wifi working06:27
waly_wlan working06:27
Ben64well i'm asking because for whatever reason, my wireless doesn't work in ubuntu unless i start windows first, then reboot into ubuntu. something to do with the hardware switch recognition thingy06:28
waly_beldar the guy went ahead and downgraded his driver and that seemed to work06:31
waly_should I try to do the same06:31
waly_there doesn't seem to be any harm as I will be taking a backup06:33
Beldarwaly_, I would follow the helper, not an area I know anything about.06:34
waly_i should be able to restore it then06:34
waly_aha ok06:34
waly_thanks beldar06:34
waly_the helper is currently answering my question06:34
Beldarno problem, hope you get it fixed06:36
hpa620nwhoa this is cool06:41
santoshhi06:42
dalitwhen i open large sized pdf documents in DocumentViewer3.4.0 my whole system freezes. then i have to for restart of my computer06:42
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dalitany help?06:42
Guest78443??06:42
dalitwhen i open large sized pdf documents in DocumentViewer3.4.0 my whole system freezes. then i have to for restart of my computer06:43
hpa620nhow large of a file are we talkin'?06:43
FreezingColdAny of you guys tried Ubuntu Advantage Desktop before? Thinking about getting it for my parents06:43
dalitcan this be averded?06:43
FreezingColddalit: Not a fix, but try using Firefox's pdf viewer06:43
hpa620nNope.. Im still happy as a clam running Karmic :)))06:43
FreezingColdI find it great06:43
dalit28 or 48 MB06:43
dalitFreezingCold : u mean i should view it with firefox web browser06:44
Guest78443some programs run when I boot my pc ... how do disable it?06:44
hpa620ndoes the same thing happen if you open/import pdfs into LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice?06:44
FreezingColddalit: yeah, it has a .pdf viewer writer in javascript06:44
Ben64hpa620n: you shouldn't be. you haven't received a security update since April 201106:45
hpa620nlol nothing is secure06:45
Guest78443http://askubuntu.com/questions/405157/some-programs-run-on-startup does anyone know how to disable it??06:45
dalithpa620n : can we view pdf in libreoffice?06:45
Ben64hpa620n: especially your system06:45
dalitFreezingCold : i hope its stable06:46
hpa620nyes....libreoffice, which still runs under karmic, can natively open PDFs06:46
\bHi, I'm wondering when Ubuntu downloads the updates during install, can I choose what server to download from before hand?06:46
FreezingColddalit: it was for me06:46
FreezingColdhpa620n: I found it slow06:46
hpa620ni tell you, I've tried to implement image/.iso updates to newer versions of Ubuntu and have always had pblms...I found myself rolling back to Karmic and have just stayed there06:47
Guest78443dang!!06:48
hpa620nUbuntu Karmic is faster than my triple boot into win98/winxp/win706:48
dalithpa620n : what filter selection should i use in libreoffice for opening pdf/06:48
hpa620nyou dont need to choose a filter...with the latest version of libre, the import mechanism is built-in.06:49
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dalithpa620n : i tried to open it by double clicking and its still asking06:50
hpa620nok Hold on06:51
Ben64hpa620n: you really should upgrade to something supported. like 12.04. it'll last until 201706:51
gregoryoaptitude and dpkg -l both show a package installed that's a different version to what's actually installed. How do I resolve this?06:51
Ben64gregoryo: more likely that dpkg is correct06:52
hpa620nuse LibreOffice Draw to view/open PDFs06:52
dalitok06:52
hpa620nare you using 4.0.5.2 or later?06:52
rwwgregoryo: or rather, why you you think aptitude is wrong?06:53
rwwdo you **06:53
gregoryoBen64, rww: rdiff-backup (the software in question) fails to work across major versions, and 'rdiff-backup --version' shows the (old) version that I expect.06:53
b7Hello all. I have an ubuntu softraid, my drives become broken and has been replaced one by one. Now my system is unbootable. I had boot the rescue system, mounted my root partition on raid and chrooted to it and had seen that all the drives-related info is showing the old configuration and doesn't reflect the current. How could I fix it?06:54
hpa620nwell Im thinking about it...but I wont do it until I get another 3TB drive and start a clean install06:54
llutzgregoryo: "which rdiff-backup"  shows what path?06:54
gregoryo/usr/bin/rdiff-backup06:54
hpa620nbetween my three systems, i have about 12 different harddrives :)06:55
hpa620nand a 3TB external storage backing every piece of software known to man :)06:55
YellowGTOHey guys im having a weird issue. When I install software06:56
YellowGTOI can't tab to the Ok spot in the Eula06:56
YellowGTOI just get stuck at the EULA screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzc9n1070q6a8s6/Screenshot%202014-01-14%2001.57.44.png06:58
hpa620nBen, how do you like 12.00 I've read the review but Im still in 'if it aint broke-dont-fix-it' mode.06:58
YellowGTOEverything else in the OS is responsive. The terminal window still scrolls up and down.06:58
Guest84696how can i download updated ubuntu without having to update it after installation?07:00
BeldarYellowGTO, I thought tab was it, I do it automatically but forget,try the left arrow and the space bar07:00
Beldarer right arrrow07:00
YellowGTOBeldar, no dice. Im just going to have to reboot I guess.07:04
Oogwhats the easiest way to daemonize a program so that it runs when i logout and if it crashes it gets restarted automatically?07:04
YellowGTOMy servers been running so long lol. Such a shame.07:04
ryan_46guest84696 Currently you can download 12.04.3  but 12.04.4 is due in the near future I think.07:06
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b7Oh, I solved my problem. I had to reinstall the grub.07:10
b7Thanks everyone.07:10
adwadwawUgh this has never happened... I'm installing Ubuntu on someones laptop... all I have is the wallpaper at the installation screen... no gui...07:11
adwadwawi guess there's no text installation like debian so i have no idea what's going on07:11
YellowGTOBeldar, works after reboot. Thanks for responding though ;)07:13
BeldarYellowGTO, Cool, no problem.07:14
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hcchenI use Ubuntu about 3 times a year. Frustrated with the interface every time. I wish they never change the interface.07:28
Ben64you don't have to use unity07:29
nearst!lubuntu | hcchen07:31
ubottuhcchen: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.07:31
Temperif i need a script to run right after luks encrypted partitions are setup in /dev/mapper/ where do I put the script?07:32
hcchenubottu ,  thank you very much07:33
ubottuhcchen: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:33
hcchennearst : tks!07:33
hcchenwow! ubottu answered my question accurately, amazing. I'll try lubuntu, thansk.07:34
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b0xgah ubuntu and nvidia really dont play nicely together07:37
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Foarsb0x: Nvidia's fault. I think.07:41
b0xwell07:41
b0xalso my laptops bluetooth nor wired ethernet work07:42
b0xso :/07:42
b0xjust spent an hour odd attempting various nvidia driver installs, having them all fail, then trying to recooperate everything to get to a working desktop!07:43
FoarsWell if everyone provided open source drivers...07:43
b0xi'd like reasonable multi monitor support07:43
b0xbut alas07:43
Oogim using rails did foreman export upsart all is setup except when i start it, rails just reboots in a loop like there is no rails app there!08:02
Oogits like it isnt in the app folder08:02
Oogideas?08:02
Oogit does su - myapp -c 'cd /home/dgobaud/SMTP Server/smtp_server;08:03
Oogso it is changing to the folder08:03
somsipOog: sounds like you need rails support, rather than ubuntu support08:03
Oogim thinking its a path thing08:03
Oogrelated to the cd and su08:04
Ooghmm08:04
somsipOog: well, you miss an apostrophe off what you pasted08:04
Oogexec su - myapp -c 'cd /home/myapp/SMTP Server/smtp_server; export PORT=5000; export RAILS_ENV=beta;  rails s -p 5000 >> /var/log/smtp-beta/web-beta-1.log 2>&1'08:04
somsipOog: I'd still suggest #rails support08:05
Oogok thanks08:06
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Ooggot it08:17
Oogsomsip it was the spae in the folder08:17
Oogneeded to escape it08:18
StarSky008:20
somsipOog: ah yes08:20
geirhainstead of   export A=1; export B=2; cmd   you can do   A=1 B=2 cmd08:30
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hcchenusing VMware 7 to install Ubuntu 13-10, blocked at "Kernel Panic Not Syncing Attempted To Kill The Idle Task"08:40
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hcchenHow to swith to use an older kernel? before "Kernel Panic Not Syncing Attempted To Kill The Idle Task" occurs? or how to reach to the Grub page?08:43
hcchenI tried to press 'Esc' , never worked.08:44
Wughcchen: to get grub during boot I think you hold shift, not esc08:46
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hcchenTo get Grub during Ubuntu 13-10 32bits on VMware 7 virtual machine. press Esc doesn't work nor hold shift08:54
hcchendoes it need a technique or timeing?08:54
Beldarhcchen, Have you changed the grub timeout?08:57
Beldarhcchen, If your holding the shift be sure it is at the correct point tapping it may be better as soon as you boot it.08:57
Beldartapping repeatedly08:58
Guest2244I have a laptop with 1366 - 768 resolution, what would be a safe resolution for GRUB boot screen?08:58
BeldarGuest2244, run xrandr in the terminal and use the sizes there and find what yo9u like.08:59
song_hi, where should I put my export statements? thanks.09:00
hcchenI'll try tapping09:01
geirhasong_: In ~/.profile09:01
song_geirha, thanks a lot. that file seems generated automatically. I will append to it.09:01
Beldarhcchen, Ubuntu will run better in a partition on the hd in the end, depends on what you use is really.09:02
Beldaryour*09:02
iwantoskiif I change the owner and group of a symbolic link made using "ln -s" I would change the owner:group of the original file, right?09:03
geirhaiwantoski: right09:03
iwantoskiHow can I avoid that?09:03
geirhaownership and mode on a symbolic link are meaningless; they're never used for anything, so there's no point in changing them.09:04
iwantoskiah09:04
iwantoskihow can I safely remove a symbolic link without touching the original file/folder? :)09:05
ufkiwantoksi: just rm the symbolic link09:07
hcchenBeldar: Yeah, I am really using the 'try without installing'  and it always 'Kernel Panic' on VMware 7 new virtual machine. Will try install . . .09:07
ufkiwantoksi: even if it's a directory, the link is a file so just rm path (not rm -rf)09:07
iwantoskiufk: makes perfect sense :) thanks.09:08
ufk:)09:08
iwantoskiI "kind of" know about this, but I've never really don't this stuff in a production environment. A bit scared.09:09
ufkyeah everything done on production environment is scary! :)09:09
Beldarhcchen, I would check the md5sum on the ISO, never used vmware so not sure if this inherent with it however.09:09
jlebrecheverytime I log in to precise i have to run arandr to enable multi monitor, is there a program i can install that'll do it automatically?09:11
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hcchenBeldar : tks. install gets same problem. Check md5 is good idea!!09:16
Guest2244ah thanks Beldar09:20
Beldarno problem folks09:20
john_ramboIs it possible know if my system is secure using nmap if I have only 1 pc  ?09:23
madhurjyaHello!09:26
gerryvdmhey, i want to ensure the directory /var/run/php5-fpm/ exists when starting the service, I used to do this in the /etc/init.d/php5-fpm script, but what is the proper way of doing that now?09:34
swaagieso lately i've been seeing cryptswap1 messages, until now startup usually just resumed after a few seconds, perma hangs now :/ recreated swap and redid ecryptfs-setup-swap but that did not seem to resolve anything09:36
apb1963How can I update qt please?09:37
swaagienow I could be looking at a red herring and it being like graphic issues but seems akward09:38
swaagietime to kill splashscreen first09:39
Guest2244What is the name of the Screen that is Purple and says Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10 etc...is it called the Splash Screen?09:47
lolcatGuest2244: I belive so09:47
MyrttiGuest2244: before, during or after you log in?09:48
lolcatI have a werird problem with ubuntu09:48
lolcatDepending on what graphic driver I use, I have either the ubuntu image on my desktop or just plain black09:48
Guest2244after GRUB and before Log in there is the Purple screen with Ubuntu and version number after printed09:49
kostkon!plymouth09:49
ubottuPlymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) that provides a graphical boot animation while the boot process happens in the background. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »09:49
kostkonGuest2244, ^^09:49
voeicI just found out about BIND, the DNS software. is this a safe one? wikipedia article refers to military funding and involvement in development. it also mentions earlier versions as very vulnerable09:50
Myrttivoeic: bind in ubuntu is often and quickly updated with security updates09:51
lolcatMyrtti: So is Oracle Java, still nobody would argue it is particularly secure.09:52
Guest2244Ubottu -  I got this output after trying your suggestion "There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth (providing /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth): /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth09:52
Guest2244Nothing to configure."09:52
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MyrttiGuest2244: so you've not gotten new themes for it then09:52
Myrttilolcat: but that's oracles job nowadays09:52
lolcatvoeic: Most encryption and security stuff has some government involvement. If they use it themselves that may give you some confidence it is safe.09:52
lolcatMyrtti: Java was sold again?09:52
Myrttilolcat: you said it yourself, Oracle Java09:53
lolcatOh, I thought you meant it wasn't their job09:53
Guest2244I would like to change that screen to something interesting and I'd like to have a high resolution view of the verbose print during the boot up process.09:53
kostkonlolcat, oracle bought sun09:53
YellowGTOI thought that happened ages ago09:53
Guest2244No I dont think i've gotten any new themes09:53
lolcatkostkon: I am aware, that is why I sad Oracle Java and not Sun Java09:54
MyrttiGuest2244: well that's what you need to do then09:54
kostkonlolcat, indeed09:54
voeiclolcat, maybe that's why we have a problem called nsa today :)-- on the other hand, co-existence of military / darpa involvement and high vulnerability..hmm.09:54
Guest2244Can help me with that? the getting of new themes?09:54
lolcatIs ubuntu 13.10 broken because of the new graphic stuff? the x-server change or whatever?09:54
lolcatvoeic: If NSA uses it, they must have some confidence in it.09:55
lolcatI am considering going back to 13.0409:55
swaagiesolved my prob, cryptswap was red herring some lib update yesterday borked the ati drivers09:56
lolcatback to 12.04 I mea09:56
Guest2244I can use GRUB Customizer to change the boot sequence resolution to match my laptops screen?10:02
kkkkkkkkkkkkkhi, all recently i did update , but now unnity is running in 2d mode only10:03
kkkkkkkkkkkkkunity version is 5.20, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS10:04
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkernel 3.8.0.3510:04
VneetGuys need your help related Glusterfs security10:05
Vneetcan you please help me how can I configure my Volume with password protected?10:05
kkkkkkkkkkkkkplus on unity when i type something in dash, it types, but navigation between icons, using arrow key doesnot work10:06
kkkkkkkkkkkkkhow to solve that weird problem10:06
kkkkkkkkkkkkki was thinking that update will10:06
kkkkkkkkkkkkkhelp me, it increased my problems10:06
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Vneet??10:11
Vneetcan you please help me how can I configure my Volume with password protected?10:11
Vneetcan you please help me how can I configure my Gluster Volume with password protected?10:11
Guest41365I would like to see the verbose boot up onscreen instead of the Purple screen with Ubuntu title and version text.  Can anyone help?10:11
Vneetcan you please help me how can I configure my Gluster Volume with password protected?10:13
voeiclolcat, it is not a matter of whether they have confidence in it..besides, none of us (except the nsa employees here)  knows what nsa uses. sure not what we use. http://is.gd/IAympS10:18
yellabs-r2hello all10:21
sdzrhi10:21
yellabs-r2i have seen all these new cool "steam machines" , and it makes me think, are all of these machines actually compatible with ubuntu, so no hassle install ? out of the box linux machines ?10:22
Guest41365Just discovered the name of the the verbose output during Ubuntu Spash screen - Boot Messages10:22
Guest41365I want to increase the resolution to my monitors settings and have those Boot Messages displayed onscreen instead of the Purple Ubuntu title and version number.  Any help?10:23
MyrttiGuest41365: you can control that with the grub2 boot options, I can't remember which file to edit from the top of my head, but removing "quiet splash" from that file springs to mind10:24
sdzrdunno. i guess steambox is still quit different10:25
Guest41365yesI've just noticed the "quiet and splash" thanks10:25
lolcatyellabs-r2: It is just debian with a steam overlay10:26
lolcatyellabs-r2: you can download steamOS10:26
gerepHello all.10:27
gerepHello all. I have one HD with 3 partitions so it is sda1, sda2 and sda3. I have Windows on sda1 and sda2 was created by Windows. My linux is on sda3. I have a Erlang code that make some tests based on my HD UUID. What I don't get it that if I pass the UUID from sda3 (where I have linux and is current mounted) the tests fail but if I pass the UUID from sda1 (where I have Windows) and the tests pass. So, please, correct me if I'm wrong, the sda1 is the "real" HD U10:27
yellabs-r2yes i tried installing it, but needs eufi boot, wich my pc's do not have10:27
hayig2000hi guys, i 'm running lubuntu as guest inside windows host, should i install guest additions from package manager or from vbox website?10:28
gerephayig2000 I'd install from vbox10:30
k1l_hayig2000: i had no problem with the ubuntu repos guest additions10:31
hayig2000ok thx10:32
tripelb12.04 gnome-classic Where do I find Trash so I can empty it? How about the Help thing so I can ask questions about ubuntu? (like about emptying the trash)10:34
k1l_tripelb: open nautilus and look into the bookmarks bar on the left10:37
Devil__I got it to work!10:39
Devil__yay!10:39
Devil__Boot Messages up and running10:39
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Devil__Sorry I just like to share my excitement now and then10:40
Bomboncan some one help me with ubuntu hotspot making?10:45
Bomboni want to make my laptop a hotspot with wifi so that i can connect my android phone to my laptop wifi10:46
Bombon?10:46
joeri_why would you want to do that?10:47
Bomboncuase i want to access internet from my android phone10:47
joeri_http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/10:47
Bombonjoeri_ i am using portable ubuntu that works with windows xp10:48
Bomboni checked that , it doesnt work10:48
joeri_sorry, i never tried it10:48
chemist^hi everyone, i've just received some updates for BIND, but if i don't use my computer as a name server this is useless right? can i uninstall bind from my system without any issues?10:48
joeri_what is the issue you get?10:48
Bombonjoeri_ i cant find wifi network adapter in my ubuntu10:49
joeri_do you have wifi on your laptop? is it enabled?10:49
chemist^Bombon, that's cause it's disabled10:49
joeri_or the wlan card is not supported by default...10:50
Bombonhow to enable it10:50
Bombonhow to make it supported10:50
Bombontell me10:50
chemist^Bombon, reboot into windows if you have dual boot and enable it either with a hardware button on your laptop or whitin windows...then restart the computer back to ubuntu and it should work10:50
joeri_there is somewhere a button to enable it10:50
k1l_Bombon: please pastebin the output of "rfkill list"10:50
Bombonchemist^ im using windows nd ubuntu at same time.. im using portable ubuntu 8.0410:51
Bombonwhere u can run both os in same desktop10:51
chemist^what does that mean... virtual machine?10:51
k1l_Bombon: urgs, 8.04 is way too old10:51
chemist^i have no experience with that...but yes as k1l_ suggests...try installing a newer version, maybe the drivers are available in newer releases10:52
k1l_Bombon: 8.04 is from 2008 and the chances are high, that it will not support modern wifi chips10:52
Bombonu sure?10:52
k1l_i sure10:52
k1l_Bombon: besides 8.04 is not supported anymore10:52
Bombonso tell me how do i put whole new ubuntu in my 4 gb flash drive and run from flash drive10:53
chemist^!usb10:53
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent10:53
chemist^!usb | Bombon10:53
ubottuBombon: please see above10:53
chemist^Bombon, see the second link, USB installation with persistence (so you can save files and configurations)10:54
googHow can I attempt to copy A to B with two requirements: 1) copy only if A exists, 2) always return exit status 010:54
Bombonhow do u open device manager in ubuntu10:55
Bombonfrom terminal10:55
chemist^Bombon you can type in lspci10:55
chemist^or lsusb for listing usb devices10:55
chemist^and lshw to display all hardware10:56
chemist^maybe you'll need to use the sudo command, not sure10:56
Bombonlsusb doesnt show anything10:56
k1l_Bombon: what are you trying to do now?10:57
Bombonim trying to check if my wifi chip is supported in this version of ubuntu10:57
Bomboncause u know it will take too much time to install a new ubuntu10:57
chemist^Bombon, lspci if you have an integrated wifi card10:57
k1l_lspci or lsusb should show it10:57
AnonissimusHaving a permission issue it seems, I can read and write to a folder, however a service that is running under my account can not10:57
chemist^Bombon, it really doesn't take that long with newer installs10:58
chemist^Bombon, specially if you install it on a usb10:58
k1l_Bombon: but be aware, that 8.04 is way out of support. it has  huge security issues and doesnt get updates since some time10:58
Bombonk1l_ another problem is i use internet from a usb dongle device.. and that is not supported in ubuntu10:58
Bombonso u know im in complicated situation10:59
chemist^Anonissimus, a little more info please? :)10:59
k1l_Bombon: that is even more a reason for a newer ubuntu10:59
chemist^Bombon, definitely see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent10:59
Anonissimuschemist^: not too sure where to start, if a different user creates a folder then I do have sufficient permissions when accessing it through bash11:00
Bombonhow big is the file11:00
Anonissimushowever the service I run does not have sufficient access11:00
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chemist^Bombon, it will take less time to install a new release of ubuntu to an USB then it is taking you to ask questions here :)11:00
Anonissimuswhen I chown to myself then the service can access it11:01
Anonissimusthis is an indexer running on java11:01
Anonissimusfor what that is worth11:01
chemist^Anonissimus, did you create the folder while being logged in as root?11:01
Bombonok11:02
Anonissimuschemist^: no, folders were created by anotehr user on the system who is in the same groups as I am11:02
kaczmarhello guys i am new user of ubuntu and i have problem. i changed name of folder and my desktop now is my main folder11:02
kaczmarhot to change it back?11:02
kaczmarhow*11:02
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chemist^Anonissimus, well log in as root an change the permissions of that folder to your group11:03
Anonissimuschemist^: drwxrwsr-x 4 otheruser group1 is what I get for ls -lart11:03
AnonissimusI am in the same group11:03
k1l_chemist^: no login as root on ubuntu11:03
k1l_!root | chemist^11:03
ubottuchemist^: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:03
Anonissimusalso this is on an nfs mount11:04
chemist^k1l_, my english is not that good, i wanted to say you escalate your permissions... or how's it said :D11:04
chemist^but i don't know the exact words so i just say login as root :P11:05
chemist^kaczmar, why did you rename your home folder?11:05
chemist^:)11:05
k1l_well, login as root is worse. using sudo is better. but be aware not to use sudo in the wrong situations11:06
kaczmarit was mistake i was training my skill of terminal and mv command11:06
nearst!sudo | kaczmar11:07
ubottukaczmar: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo11:07
googQuestion: How do you copy or rsync by ignoring error and always return exit code 0?11:07
sushant91265~sushant9126511:07
sushant91265new in ubuntu, how to install playLinux in ubuntu 12.0411:07
kaczmarso nobody will help me?11:08
k1l_!playonlinux | sushant9126511:08
sushant91265yes that what m trying11:08
chemist^kaczmar, have you tried renaming it back?11:08
k1l_kaczmar: what folder did you rename11:08
k1l_sushant91265: see http://www.playonlinux.com/en/11:09
kaczmaryes i tried11:09
chemist^sushant91265, www.playonlinux.com11:09
kaczmari rename it back11:09
sushant91265thanks but couldnt find usefull11:09
kaczmarfolder of desktop11:09
sushant91265anyway thanks11:09
chemist^lol?11:09
chemist^he couldn't find it usefull to have instructions on how to install it on ubuntu :P11:10
kaczmari dont know what in english is word but in polish is Pulpit11:10
kaczmarso i think it is Desktop11:10
chemist^we're not polish so...that doesn't really help11:10
kaczmarso it is folder of my main screen11:11
Bombonhey will ubuntu 13.04 live fit in my 4gb flash drive?11:11
Bombonchemist^ k1l_ ?11:11
k1l_kaczmar: does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/116276/how-to-set-the-desktop-to-home-desktop11:12
chemist^Bombon, yes11:12
chemist^Bombon, i would use 12.04 since it's LTS11:12
k1l_Bombon: go with 13.1011:12
k1l_Bombon: 13.04 loses support at end of january11:12
Bombonshould i download 12.0411:12
chemist^kaczmar, first what you need to do is rename it back to exactly what it was11:12
k1l_or 12.04, which got support until 201711:12
Bombonthen 12.0411:13
chemist^kaczmar, then... try doing this: chown -R ${SUDO_USER}:${SUDO_USER} /home/<correct name>11:13
chemist^and:11:13
chemist^chmod 750 -R /home/<correct name>11:13
k1l_chemist^: no, he needs to set the config files, like stated in my link11:13
chemist^kaczmar, then try to reboot and see if your issue is gone11:13
chemist^k1l_, sorry did not see your post11:14
kaczmaryeah that is what i need. this link is correct11:14
kaczmari hope it help11:14
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kaczmarthank you11:14
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Bombonits bigger and will take 3 fuken hours11:14
chemist^kaczmar, try it out and let us know :P11:14
geirhado NOT run   chmod 750 -R   on your homedir11:15
kaczmarok i will come back here when i try11:15
kaczmarthanks anyway11:15
Calinou<chemist^> Bombon, i would use 12.04 since it's LTS11:16
Calinououtdated stuff11:16
chemist^?11:16
geirhamaking all files in your homedir executable is crazy at best11:16
chemist^like what?11:16
Calinoualmost all packages are outdated. the end11:16
enchiladoWon't 14.04 be LTS?11:17
k1l_Calinou: you know about point releases and the enablement stack? and some packages get updates or are patched11:17
chemist^Calinou, i have no issues with what i use my desktop computer for...so it's not that much of a problem11:17
k1l_enchilado: it will be LTS11:17
chemist^and i believe it's not that much outdated11:18
chemist^i use 12.04.3 i believe11:18
Calinouk1l_, only kernel and web browser11:18
Calinoupretty much11:18
Calinouchemist^, 2 years is quite an eternity :P11:18
k1l_Calinou: not everyone needs the bleeding edge. just think about it11:18
Calinousuddenly: software developers whine at you for using outdated stuff.11:19
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Calinouyou end up not being able to use some software at all11:19
chemist^well maybe i don't need such software11:20
chemist^for what i need the ubuntu version i've got it's more than enough :)11:20
k1l_Calinou: you are overacting a lot11:20
ikoniawhat a surprise11:20
chemist^:) k1l_ he's scaring me :D is my ubuntu that much out of date? :)11:21
ikoniachemist^: there is no need to be concerned11:21
ikoniachemist^: do you actually have a problem with your current ubuntu 12.04 install ? or is this a new install ?11:21
nearsti still got my karmic running. no problem so far :P11:22
chemist^Calinou, lol...stop sending me private msgs11:22
Calinouthat's EOL, nearst11:22
chemist^Calinou, i am not a LTS fanboy, as you assume11:22
Calinouchemist^, a notice then11:22
chemist^ikonia, no problems whatsoeverr11:22
ikoniachemist^: ok, so you're running 12.0411:23
TastkeyHi guys. I have a problem: I'm trying to do rsync over ssh, but each time I use rsync I'm asked for the user-password even though I added the public-key into the "authorized_keys"-file on the source-system.11:23
chemist^12.04.3 i believe11:23
ikoniachemist^: is that correct ?11:23
chemist^i don't know :P11:23
chemist^what's the terminal command for looking it up? can't remember11:24
ikoniachemist^: ok - lsb_release -a11:24
ikoniachemist^: lets see where you are and then hopefully remove any concerns you have or fix any real issues you may run into11:24
chemist^12.04.4 LTS :P11:24
ikoniachemist^: fantastic, so you are totally up to date on the 12.04 release branch11:24
chemist^i have no issues...11:24
ikoniachemist^: in that case, sleep easy11:24
chemist^every hardware component i own works like it should11:24
chemist^and every software i try also...so no problems whatsoever11:25
ikoniachemist^: then use it with confidence, just keep up to date with when the support cycle for 12.04 ends and plan an upgrade/new install to the next supported release before then11:25
chemist^i would get the newest release installed if i didn't have a lot of stuff on my computer (unfinished music projects)11:25
chemist^that is mainly the reason i chose to use lts, so i'd get updates for a couple of years11:26
ikoniachemist^: then you have picked the right product - use it with confidence11:26
chemist^and wouldn't need to format my partition11:26
TastkeyIs there anyone who can help me?11:26
lid6j86i'm running xubuntu with multiple monitors.  I'm trying to set them up in the correct position but it's really difficult because all of the monitors have the same name, so i can't tell which monitor i'm trying to place the current one in relation to.  How can I change the name of each monitor to give them a unique identifier?11:26
nearst!ask | Tastkey11:27
chemist^ikonia, thank you very much for the info :)11:27
ubottuTastkey: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:27
ikoniachemist^: no problem, sorry for the confusion earlier11:27
chemist^no problem :)11:27
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chemist^Tastkey, you need to disable password authentication11:29
chemist^Tastkey, the file should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config11:30
chemist^there should be a line saying: PasswordAuthentication yes11:30
chemist^change that "yes" to "no"11:30
repozitorhow to retrieve source code of ip command?11:31
chemist^also make sure you have this line: PubkeyAuthentication yes11:31
chemist^Tastkey and then reload your ssh11:31
chemist^Tastkey, like so: /etc/init.d/sshd reload11:31
glitsj16lid6j86: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html might be helpfull if you haven't seen it already11:32
rcw2i want to get built-essential package off a flash drive for a computer with no internet. this link is some years old: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3576/how-to-make-usb-drive-as-local-repository  is it easier to copy the contents of the install disk to the main harddrive and point there or go this other route with dpkg-scanpackages binary /dev/null | gzip -9c > binary/Packages.gz11:33
rcw2build-essential*11:33
lid6j86glitsj16, not having a problem extending, only with identifying the monitors.  i just need to change the names of each monitor so they have a unique identifier11:33
lid6j86glitsj16, problem is when i'm setting a monitor "above" "below" "left of" or "right of" another monitor, they all have the same name so it's impossible to know which one i'm setting it in relation to11:33
rcw2can i use 'deb file:/media/(drive name)11:35
rcw2'11:35
glitsj16lid6j86: i understand, but i don't know how to name them uniquely11:35
lid6j86glitsj16, i see, thanks11:35
lid6j86glitsj16, actually, that link might have given me an indirect answer... looks like arandr might help me graphically position them, appreciate the help11:36
glitsj16lid6j86: no problem, or you could use the graphics driver's native config tool to set things up, like nvidia-settings or the amd equivalent11:38
lid6j86glitsj16, running through virtual box, so i dont have that option11:38
b0xis there a good alternative to the unity sidebar?11:45
b0xwith autohide11:45
chemist^b0x many11:46
glitsj16b0x: the unity launcher can also be set to autohide fyi11:47
mat_64Hi, I'm looking for a software tool to use my laptop, Ubuntu equipped, camera as barcode-/QRcode reader.11:50
b0xyeah ive got it on autohide11:52
b0xi just think its a bit tacky :p11:52
b0xany suggestions?11:52
glitsj16b0x: it's pretty much a personal preference, but i always liked cairo-dock11:58
dr0phello, how can I determine time of establishing connection with address ? I don't want do get time of whole get request11:59
Picidr0p: In regards to what?12:02
TastkeyCan someone explain me this problem: I've to connect to a server via ssh with the public-key of the user "user1". But When I do "sudo ssh -u 'user1'.." then I'm asked for the "user1"s password. How can I fix that?12:03
glitsj16mat_64: qtqr works with webcam, possibly others .. do a search in software center12:03
PiciTastkey: Why are you ssh-ing using sudo? What are you trying to accomplish?12:04
mat_64glitsj16: I couldn't find any there, I will try qtqr12:05
TheFuzzb_Hi, I have an upstart script that won't run (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750052/), and in /var/log/upstart/app.log I get "not found fd/9: 11: /proc/self/fd/9"12:05
dr0pPici, to test db. I want to check how many threads can establish connection to my db. I'm getting only 2connections /s to my MongodB (which is sick) and I can't find the reason.12:05
TheFuzzb_Has anybody seen this error and know what it means?12:05
TastkeyPici: I'm doing "sudo myscript.sh" which then uses rsync which connects via ssh.12:06
mat_64glitsj16: will it also work for EAN barcodes?12:06
PiciTastkey: you'd need user1's private key to exist in /root/.ssh then. You might need to specify the key explicitly using the -i argument as well.12:07
glitsj16mat_64: zbar-tools probably does those better, but is a commandline tool12:07
TastkeyPici "-i" option doesn't help, as ssh asks for user1's password12:08
glitsj16mat_64: try i'd say, qtqr has very few dependencies so it shouldn't be hard to test and remove if it doesn't suit your needs12:08
mat_64glitsj16: tnx, if it doesn't do the job I will take an other look.12:09
glitsj16mat_64: no problem, there's always options in linux :)12:10
PiciTastkey: So, you have a passwordless ssh key created and it doesn't seem to be working? Does it work properly if user1 tries to ssh into the server?12:10
xrealIs there a free SFTP v6 server for ubuntu?12:11
chemist^!sftp | xreal12:13
ubottuxreal: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)12:13
xreal!sshd12:13
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)12:13
xrealchemist^: so there is none ?12:13
xrealOpenSSH implents v3 only.12:14
chemist^i don't know honestly about v6, never used it12:14
xrealit is REALL interesting.12:14
xrealreally*12:14
chemist^why12:14
xrealah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_SSH_servers12:14
xrealchemist^: http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/sftp/sftpversions.html12:15
newuserhey guys please tell me pdf to word converter for ubuntu :)12:15
TastkeyPici: Yes, when user1 tries to connect it works perfectly.12:16
chemist^xreal, well ok, i don't need all that stuff12:16
xrealchemist^: separate ACCESSTIME and MODIFYTIME is great.12:16
chemist^newuser you could do that on google docs12:17
p2ivateshould there be a system tray in ubuntu 13.1012:17
glitsj16xreal: there's gesftpserver, still considered experimental but offers v6 ...12:17
p2ivateskype is active but i cant access it12:17
Picixreal: Oddly enough, I think you're right.12:17
p2ivate./find it12:17
chemist^p2ivate, just type skype in your dash/home12:17
newuserchemist^:ok ty :)12:18
chemist^p2ivate, do you use unity?12:18
xrealglitsj16: experimental? v6 has been relesed 2006 :)12:18
p2ivatechemist^, i dont know12:18
p2ivatechemist^, dash only lets me open another instance12:18
chemist^p2ivate, do you have that panel on the left of your screen?12:18
p2ivateyeah12:18
glitsj16xreal: that's what the package info says in the regular repos ... PPA might offer later versions12:18
p2ivatechemist^, yeah12:18
chemist^p2ivate, then you should see the icon of skype there... if it's running12:19
xrealglitsj16: but thanks :)12:19
p2ivatechemist^, hmmm it isn't : / but it should be because im getting bottom right notifications from skype12:19
glitsj16xreal: you're welcome12:20
chemist^p2ivate, http://askubuntu.com/questions/293674/tray-icons-in-unity-in-13-0412:20
chemist^p2ivate, you could either do it with a terminal command: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"12:21
chemist^to show all the systray icons12:21
PiciTastkey: That should work...12:22
chemist^or use a GUI that helps you select which ones you want the tray to show... it's called dconf-tools12:22
chemist^p2ivate12:22
fishcookeri have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line ?12:22
p2ivatechemist^, ok12:22
TastkeyPici: The problem is that the shellscript is executed as root.12:23
PiciTastkey: Does it need to be?12:23
TastkeyPici: yes12:23
chemist^p2ivate try the command i pasted to you and tell me if it works12:23
fishcookerhow to do that.. or should i convert it to pdf first?12:23
chemist^p2ivate, the command is: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"12:23
TastkeyPici: The shellscript is executed as root and "sudo -u 'user'" doesn't solve the problem. So I'm really lost.12:24
p2ivatechemist^, No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.Panel'12:24
chemist^p2ivate: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools12:25
PiciTastkey: I just tested it myself localaly and I didn't have any problems.  You used the -i argument to ssh right? not to sudo.12:25
glitsj16chemist^: p2ivate: 13.10 took that option away .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/362135/how-to-re-enable-tray-icons-for-applications-in-ubuntu-13-10 has more info12:25
chemist^oh ok, did not know that, sorry... p2ivate check you glitsj16's link12:25
glitsj16chemist^: quite allright12:26
TastkeyI used "sudo rsync -avzue ssh -i /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa.pub". I'm always asked for user1's password.12:26
TJ-Tastkey: Loose the ".pub" suffix ... you need the private key, not the public12:27
PiciTJ-: nice catch12:27
TJ-Pici: Been there, done that :p12:27
TastkeyTJ-: then I get the error "rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1232) [sender=3.0.9]"12:27
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chemist^Tastkey, and i told you to look at your ssh config file ... it must have the line "PasswordAuthentication no" and "PubkeyAuthentication yes" ... then reload your sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd restart12:29
chemist^have you tried looking into that?12:29
fishcookeri have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line .. should i convert to pdf first?12:29
Picichemist^: it doesn't need that for key based auth to work.12:30
chemist^Pici, shouldn't he disable the password auth?12:31
chemist^Pici, i thought his issue was that it was still asking him for a password12:31
chemist^instead of just auth with the key12:31
TJ-Tastkey: I assume there are additional arguments on that command-line - the source and destination paths?12:32
Tastkeychemist^: Yeah you're right. It asks me for password, instead of the existing key.12:32
Picichemist^: The problem is that it was asking for a password instead of asking for key password.  Keys should have priority over user passwords.12:32
TJ-chemist^: There will be a password prompt (unless passwords are disabled) if all keys fail12:32
TJ-chemist^: You can see the sequence using "ssh -vvv ...."12:33
chemist^so there's something wrong with his keys?12:33
TJ-chemist^: No... there's something wrong on the final command-line, which we need to see12:33
chemist^:)12:33
TastkeyTJ-: ok. I'm posting it. wait a second please12:33
TJ-Tastkey: Are there env vars on the line? If so prefix the line with "eval" - as in  "eval rsync ..."12:34
WhatDoIDoNowWhat's going to happen if I type:12:34
WhatDoIDoNowcd /; sudo find -type f -exec shred -fzu '{}' \;12:34
WhatDoIDoNow?12:34
Tastkeysudo rsync -avzue ssh -i /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa user1@server:/home/user1/new_projects/install_puppetmaster/install_puppetmaster_step1.sh /home/user1/install_puppetmaster_step1.sh12:35
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TJ-Tastkey: You can't use "...ssh -i path ..." on the rsync command-line... "-i" is an rsync option and being interpreted thus12:36
PiciWhatDoIDoNow: It will attempt to shred (read: delete) every file under /.12:36
TastkeyTJ-: But I've to use that public key in order to connect to the server. So what sould I do?12:37
TJ-You add an entry into root's "/root/.ssh/config"12:37
TastkeyTJ-: Do you mean the private and public-key?12:37
hitsujiTMOTastkey: maybe add -- before ssh if rsync accepts that?12:37
WhatDoIDoNowPici: Ah. So I guess I'd better not type it, right?12:38
TastkeyhitsujiTMO: It doesn't accept that.12:38
AlexDSXHey, can anyone recommend a good UK hosting company?12:38
PiciWhatDoIDoNow: I wouldn't,.12:38
TJ-Tastkey: Add something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750217/12:38
PiciAlexDSX: Probably someone in #ubuntu-uk12:38
WhatDoIDoNowk12:38
k1l_AlexDSX: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic12:38
AlexDSXThank you. :)12:38
WhatDoIDoNowthx12:39
TastkeyOk. I'm trying now.12:39
TJ-AlexDSX: depends on what kind of hosting; Linode have a London presence12:40
TastkeyTJ-: I'm still asked for the password for the private key12:43
greenDaronCześć wszystkim ;)12:44
TJ-Tastkey: password "for" the private key? or password *instead* of the private key?12:44
TastkeyTJ-: I'm asked for the "passphrase" for id_rsa (private-key)12:45
TJ-Tastkey: have you published user1's public key to the server's user1 account?12:46
k1l_!cz | greenDaron12:46
ubottugreenDaron: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.12:46
TastkeyYes I did.12:47
PiciTastkey: That sounds normal. What were you expecting?12:47
TJ-Tastkey: OK... so give it... if you want that not to happen you'll have to remove the passphrase from that key, or else create an additional key just for this rsync job12:47
k1l_!pl | greenDaron sorry12:47
ubottugreenDaron sorry: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.12:47
Bombondo u ppl speak polish here12:49
hitsujiTMO!pl | Bombon12:49
ubottuBombon: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.12:49
greenDaronxD12:50
Bombonmy ubuntu is still downloading12:52
Bombonholy catfish i live in Bangladesh12:52
* TJ- thought it was the cattle that were holy?12:53
cfhowlettBombon, torrents are probably faster - and more reliable..12:53
Bombonim using idm12:54
Bomboni get the same speed12:54
Bomboni m stuck into xp, cause its super fast.. and i love ubuntu coz its good12:55
Bombonbut i cant use ubuntu cause it makes my laptop slow12:55
Bombon:(12:55
Bombonthe trade off is too much for me12:55
Bombonsigh12:55
cfhowlettBombon, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for older / lower specification machines12:55
Anonissimusstill stuck on my permission issue, whenever I do an ls of a symlinked folder I get permission denied12:56
Anonissimuseven tho I have access to the path12:56
ezra-sBombon, you can always use something else than default de if you feel the default is slow for you12:56
fishcookeri have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line .. should i convert to pdf first?12:56
Anonissimusand permissions on the symlink are 77712:56
Bombonyeah but they sucks big time12:56
ezra-sAnonissimus, permissions on a symlink are always 77712:57
Anonissimusezra-s: then why do I get permission denied when doing ls symlink12:57
ezra-sAnonissimus, what's importat are the permissions to where the symlink points12:57
enbergjI'm trying to automate installation of some packages that seem to depend on postfix, when I run "apt-get install -y package" from inside a script it still gets stuck in some stupid postfix configuration screen, I can see the dialog in ps .. how do I really tell it to install with the default options when -y doesn't seem to be enough?12:57
Anonissimusezra-s: well my user can do a symlink of the location where it points to12:58
ezra-sAnonissimus, an open bridge does not mean you can reach the other side if the other end is "closed"12:58
ezra-sAnonissimus, being able to make a symlink is one think, being able to go in there is different12:58
ezra-sAnonissimus, try to "cd" to the real dir12:58
ezra-ssee if you can access12:58
Anonissimusezra-s: works12:59
AnonissimusI can cd to the canonical path, but not to the symlink12:59
Anonissimushowever if I create a symlink with my account that works fine12:59
ezra-sdo ls -l of both12:59
ezra-spaste here or a sensible paste bin13:00
hitsujiTMOAnonissimus: pastebin ls -ld of both paths please13:00
actionParsnipenbergj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16225/how-can-i-accept-the-microsoft-eula-agreement-for-ttf-mscorefonts-installer   does that help13:00
actionParsnipenbergj: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12582097/automate-installation-using-bash-script-how-to-answer-dialogs-written-with-ncu13:01
AnonissimushitsujiTMO: ezra-s http://pastebin.com/QxJ4Xgmm13:03
enbergjthanks, that sort of helps .. the first one more specifically .. but it says -q helps, and then it says if running in scripts but then you need to pre-set the option .. and doesn't say how to figure out what the option is called13:04
ezra-sAnonissimus, type "id" and paste the result here13:05
Anonissimusezra-s: uid=3254(anonissimus) gid=3254(anonissimus) groups=3254(anonissimus),117(admin),5110(testgroup),7010(group1)13:07
ezra-sAnonissimus, did you notice permissions for group1 are rws ?13:08
hitsujiTMOezra-s: g+s wouldn't prevent him from executing a dir13:11
Anonissimusso I need to unset that s?13:14
hayig2000hi there, Should i install vbox guest additions in a freshly installed guest ubuntu?13:14
hitsujiTMOAnonissimus: no dont. thats there for the group13:14
k1l_hayig2000: didnt we solve that issue already?13:15
AnonissimushitsujiTMO: ok, any suggestions on how to resolve this, I am stumped here13:15
hayig2000i dont understand13:16
hitsujiTMOAnonissimus: there's nothing obvious there. I'd presume its something else indirectly causing the issue13:16
actionParsniphayig2000: if you need them, yes13:16
k1l_hayig2000: yes install that guest additions from the ubuntu repo13:16
actionParsniphayig2000: if the OS is acting as needed, why fix it?13:16
glitsj16enbergj: http://xmodulo.com/2012/11/how-to-install-software-packages-in-non-interactive-batch-mode.html might be helpfull too13:17
hitsujiTMOAnonissimus: so ls -l /mnt/folder1/140113-000020gm = permission denied right? is it the same with /mnt/folder1 ?13:17
hayig2000ok thanks13:18
AnonissimushitsujiTMO: correct , no I can ls /mnt/folder113:18
hayig2000the OS IS acting as needed13:18
actionParsniphayig2000: then no, I wouldn't bother. DOn't fix what ain't broke13:19
hayig2000ok13:20
enbergjglitsj16: thanks, based on these links I've now got "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y -q package" .. hope that is enough13:20
T4bThat stupid journaling process (jbd2/sde2-8) was working yesterday before I went to bed, in the morning when I woke up and now after I've gotten home from work it's still torturing my ext4 / hard drive. I don't know whether it was working all the time in between, but I assume so. This can't be normal, can it?13:21
TJ-Anonissimus: As the paths are prefixed "/mnt/" can we assume these are mounted file-systems, possibly NFS?13:21
AnonissimushitsujiTMO: /mnt/folder2 is an nfs share if that matter?13:21
AnonissimusTJ you read my mind13:21
TJ-Anonissimus: There you go then; its the NFS permissions on the share13:21
Anonissimusok, so I need to have nfs permissions?13:22
glitsj16enbergj: no problem, you might want to confirm in #ubuntu-server13:22
Anonissimusis there a way I can map nfs permissions to a local account?13:22
gregor3005hi, does anybody use the openchrome driver? the latest available in ubuntu 13.10 produces a error and black screen + the offical openchrome homepage is damaged http://www.openchrome.org/13:22
TJ-Anonissimus: ensure "/etc/idmap.conf" is configured correctly on the client... but mostly its a case of setting the correct NFS export options in the target's "/etc/exports"13:23
actionParsnipgregor3005: the only way I have seen those work is to use an xorg.conf file (old school)13:23
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AnonissimusTJ-: no /etc/exports13:24
geirhaAnonissimus: /etc/exports is on the nfs server side13:24
Anonissimusmy bad13:25
TJ-Anonissimus: Well, the "target" is the NFS server13:25
Anonissimusthat is out of my control13:25
gregor3005actionParsnip: ah that can be a solution. thx i forget that xorg.conf :-) maybe because i have to much bad dreams the last years with xorg.conf13:25
mammuth#kubuntu13:25
Anonissimusif I change the ownership of any file to my account I do have access13:25
Anonissimusit would be a workable workaround to on symlink creation just chown to my account13:26
Anonissimusany suggestions on how to achieve this?13:26
actionParsnipgregor3005: its a painful time, but nice when you get it right :)13:26
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AnonissimusTJ-: any feedback on that?13:31
TJ-Anonissimus: Yes - delve into the horrors of NFS uid handling :D13:32
AnonissimusTJ-: I will leave that to the pro's in charge of the nfs part, I just need this to work ... badly13:33
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T0rFecthi13:44
T0rFect-_-13:45
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geppohello13:50
cfhowlettgeppo, greetings13:50
tim__^Hi all, can't seem to login anymore. Got an apparmor message: http://pastebin.com/QcESQnp513:52
root____oi13:53
root____hi13:53
root____hi13:53
FloodBot1root____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:53
k1l_!rootirc > root____13:53
ubotturoot____, please see my private message13:53
geppoUpdating ubuntu 12.04 , I get the signal;come eliniare W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch  ( how to eliminate it?  )13:53
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pkillpeershey guys, need a reccomenation. a twitter client that supports lists?13:55
pkillpeerstried turpial and polly. cant seem to find any option to show lists13:55
geppoUpdating ubuntu 12.04 , I get the signal;come eliniare W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch  ( how to eliminate it?13:56
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pkillpeersgeppo , have you tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199750813:58
geppopkillpeers,  helli13:59
geppopkillpeers,   I try now14:00
geppopkillpeers,    thanks solved14:07
geppopkillpeers,   thanks solved14:07
pkillpeers:)14:09
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renan_saddamI am running PHP 5.5.7 installed on Ubuntu 12.04 with ondrej/php5 PPA. When I do `service php5-fpm reload` it kills the master proccess but leave child processes running. Consecutive calls to reload says "Unknown instance". Then I have to manually kill chil proccesses to be able to start again. Any ideas how to solve this?14:15
renan_saddamSeems like updating to upstart 1.5+ (implemented reload signal) should solve it.14:17
somsip!ppa | renan_saddam14:19
ubotturenan_saddam: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:19
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DEA7THAfter modifying fstab to give me permissions on my Windows 7 (NTFS) drive, the Windows doesn't work anymore14:23
devboxtest14:24
Blue_Has the recent update for Ubuntu 10.04 caused network problems for anyone else but me? I thought maybe my netcard broke, so I tried two other netcards, but same problem.14:24
Blue_Then I tried booting from a DVD with Ubuntu 13.04, and network don't work there either. What do you think? Hardware problem, right?14:25
renan_saddamI am running Ubuntu 12.04, which has upstart 1.5. How safe would it be to upgrade upstart version to 1.11 (latest)?14:25
actionParsniprenan_saddam: a PPA maybe....14:26
trijntjedevbox: looks like its working ;)14:26
actionParsnipBlueShark: possibly, try a non debian based distro to test, something like OpenSUSE etc....14:26
trijntjeDEA7TH: you mean windows doesn't boot anymore? That can't be caused by fstab since thats not even used when you boot windows14:27
renan_saddamactionParsnip: Found one already (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart). But do you know if this package breaks any BC?14:27
DEA7THtrijntje: I changed the settings for the drive on which the Windows resides. Then I unmounted and remounted it14:28
actionParsniprenan_saddam: not sure, all I can say is take a snapshot or backup, then do it14:28
devboxtrijntje: WHoo14:28
DEA7THI remounted it under a different name and directory, if that matters14:28
renan_saddamthanks actionParsnip14:28
hitsujiTMOrenan_saddam: thats not a ppa14:28
renan_saddamhitsujiTMO: indeed wrong link. Should be this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~upstart-devel/+archive/upstart-daily-build14:29
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denkerhello, what is the command to change owner of a folder using uid?14:29
devboxI would like to setup a perminate device tree overlay. Is there anyone in here who could help ?14:29
trijntjeDEA7TH: should'nt matter, but what do you mean with "the windows doesn't work anymore"14:29
DEA7THtrijntje: It doesn't load, just a blank desktop with a movable mouse pointer, clicking the mouse or keyboard doesn't do anything14:30
hitsujiTMODEA7TH: """ I changed the settings for the drive on which the Windows resides.""" what exactly do you mean by this?14:31
trijntjeDEA7TH: I'm sure thats not related to changing fstab in ubuntu, maybe you can ask for help in #windows14:31
notwistDEA7TH: unless you give a LOT more information containing specifics on what you've done, noone will be able to help you14:32
mcchow do u play games like starcraft14:32
mcclike from torrent14:32
notwistmcc: starcraft does not have a linux version.14:33
DEA7THhitsujiTMO: I have two hard drives, one of them has Ubuntu 13, the other - Windows 7. I wanted to store stuff on the Windows drive because it has 2 TB space, but in order to execute stuff from there, I had to change fstab, unmount and re-mount14:33
actionParsniprenan_saddam: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=upstart    look in those, make sure you filter for your release14:33
notwistmcc: it might be possible to run through wine14:33
mcckool14:33
notwistDEA7TH: You want to dual boot but still store stuff on the Windows drive?14:33
DEA7THI also ran a .sh program from there, hopefully it wasn't doing anything which breaks NTFS or whatever14:33
DEA7THnotwist: yes, would that work?14:34
hitsujiTMODEA7TH: ahh, just the mount options then. thats not going to effect windows at all. most likely you overwrote an important file14:34
notwistDEA7TH: mounting and unmounting shouldn't mess with Windows in any way, if Windows is suddenly not working something must have been deleted or modified on the Windows disk14:34
DEA7THI also set chmod and chown for every single file on the Windows drive14:34
actionParsnip!appdb | mcc14:34
ubottumcc: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help14:34
notwistDEA7TH: why?14:35
mcck yall ill try wine14:35
actionParsnipDEA7TH: ntfs wont hold Linux permission, so it wont work14:35
actionParsnipDEA7TH: you need to set the permissions at mount time14:35
DEA7THnotwist: because I want to use it. Actually the only reason I have Windows is because I have 2 TB and Windows doesn't take that much14:35
trijntjeDEA7TH: I'd guess the .sh you ran broke something14:35
DEA7THactionParsnip: yeah I fixed that, it works now14:36
hitsujiTMODEA7TH: sounds like you were trying to break windows then. the guys in ##windows should be able to help you14:36
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trijntjeDEA7TH: can you put the .sh you ran on pastebin.com, maybe if we can see what it did we know if it could have damaged windows14:38
DEA7THtrijntje: it was from a trusted source (RubyMine), anyway isn't everything supposed to work well with my setup?14:38
notwistDEA7TH: well there's always the option to not dual boot, other than that I agree this is a Windows issue and not related to Ubuntu14:38
DEA7THit was the executable14:38
notwistDEA7TH: If I were you I would probably, to save time, format the entire disk, set up a partition with like 50 Gb for Windows, use the rest as EXT3 storage for Linux14:38
ikoniaor ext414:39
notwistDEA7TH: the best solution here depends on why you are dual booting and how frequently you will use each OS and for what14:39
notwistwhich is hard to know14:39
ikoniaand I'd set a lot more than 50GB for a mordern windows OS14:39
DEA7THnotwist: I agree that my setup wasn't well thought out14:39
notwistikonia: it depends on what you'll use it for14:39
DEA7THnotwist: would that work without touching the Ubuntu drive?14:39
ikonianot really, with service packs/base apps it will take more than 50GB14:39
notwistikonia: you are wrong.14:40
notwistDEA7TH: well, as I understood it you have to physically separate drives, one for ubuntu and one for windows14:40
notwistDEA7TH: the bigger one (windows) could be cleaned out, set up with a smaller windows partition and a larger linux storage partition14:40
DEA7THnotwist: could this be done without formatting everything first?14:41
notwistDEA7TH: you already messed up your Windows install so if you're trying to salvage it I don't understand why14:42
notwistDEA7TH: just back up whatever files you need off the windows partition and reinstall it, it's the quickest way to make it work. While you're at it, I'm suggesting you look over how much space you're allocating to each OS because you might as well fix your partitions while you're at it14:42
notwistDEA7TH: why are you dual booting to begin with?14:45
DEA7THnotwist: because I need both Linux and Windows... ?14:46
notwistwhy14:46
philinuxnotwist;~ why not if it came with the machine. You've paid for it14:46
DEA7THbecause I have 2 TB and don't expect to use more than 1 TB of it14:46
notwistwhat do you use linux for, what do you use windows for14:46
notwistwhy do you need both14:46
DEA7THI need Linux for pretty much everything, and Windows in case I need to use something which isn't available for Linux14:47
philinuxnotwist;~ silverlight for one is a good reason14:47
taifunorkanhow to install/configure/test vsftpd? Pls help14:47
DEA7THsuch as .NET applications14:47
notwistDEA7TH: any reason why you can't run Windows in Virtualbox inside Linux, or vice versa?14:47
DEA7THI still have two more laptops which run Windows, but they are much, much slower14:47
DEA7THnotwist: is it not inconvenient and slower?14:47
taifunorkanhow to install/configure/test vsftpd? pls help14:47
hitsujiTMOnotwist: because he doesn't have a licence for that i would guess14:47
notwistDEA7TH: I'm writing to you from Xubuntu running in Virtualbox, it's not exactly slow14:48
trijntjetaifunorkan: I'd say you'd be better of googling for that than asking here, unless you have a specific problem14:48
notwistDEA7TH: obviously it depends on why you use your OS's and for what. If you use Linux 90 % of the time and need Windows only now and then to test .NET or some other crap I don't see why Virtualbox wouldn't work, or if the stuff you do in Linux is very resource light (terminal stuff) you might as well run it in Virtualbox. The only reason you wouldn't want Linux in Virtualbox is if you want your system resources used as efficiently as possible, for Lin14:49
notwistDEA7TH: not to mention the fact that when you use Virtualbox you can switch between OS's without rebooting14:49
notwistDual booting is almost never the best solution to running both Windows and Linux, especially not in the 90 % of cases where the use case is "I just want to learn Linux"14:50
iwantoskiI use VirtualBox as containers for all different projects14:50
iwantoski(using Vagrant)14:50
notwistiwantoski: exactly. You can clone your test systems and modify them as well, another advantage over dual booting if your use case is trying stuff out14:51
DEA7THnotwist: hmmmm, can I play games via virtual Windows14:51
notwistDEA7TH: depends on the game but I wouldn't recommend it14:51
notwistDEA7TH: but why don't run Windows and then install Virtualbox with Linux? That's what I do, specifically because I want to run Windows games14:51
iwantoskiDEA7TH: Vine is better than VirtualBox for games - however both are unstable and not recommended imo.14:51
notwistusing two operating systems side by side on a work station is almost never the best solution, that's all I'm saying14:52
notwistnon-virtualized, that is14:52
hitsujiTMOnotwist: just goin to mention again that he would have to fork out more money for a new licence for windows. If dual booting works for him, then don't get on his case about it. dual booting is perfectly acceptible in a lot of circumstances14:52
notwisthitsujiTMO: not if he runs Windows non-virtually14:52
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DEA7THnotwist: I find Linux more convenient and need it to be fast14:53
notwisthitsujiTMO: also isn't OEM licenses hardware bound? Why would they care if he runs it virtually or not14:54
notwistDEA7TH: I run my virtual Xubuntu with 2 Gb of RAM and 64 Mb of Video memory, it runs as smoothly as I need it to. Unless you're doing something really heavy like 3D modelling I don't see the point of requiring Linux to be non-virtual14:55
hitsujiTMOnotwist: yes its bound to be directly run on the hardware. the licence doesn't allow it to be run in a vm14:55
notwisthitsujiTMO: all right, well as I said, I still think Windows with Virtualbox is a better setup than Windows and Linux dual booted for almost any use case14:55
DEA7THnotwist: I may eventually want to run applications which exploit the hardware to its fullest extent, such as machine learning or optimization algorithms14:56
hitsujiTMO!wfm | notwist whats better for you isn't best for everyone else14:56
ubottunotwist whats better for you isn't best for everyone else: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/14:56
notwisthitsujiTMO: that way you don't mess with the license at all and there's only a small amount of cases where you would need Linux perfomance above what you can get virtually14:56
notwistlol, I'm not saying it's best for me14:56
notwistDEA7TH: sure, well again it's a question of what the performance gains are. I have a feeling they're fairly small.14:57
notwistVirtualbox for example allows you to set up a VM that essentially has access to all your system resources, all of your ram, all of your cores etc. Obviously Windows in between is a bottleneck but I can't imagine it's that bad.14:58
hitsujiTMOnotwist: again i'm going to say this. An OEM windows licence may NOT be used in a virtual machine, even if that VM is running on the original hardware.14:59
notwistagain I'm going to say that I'm talking about running Linux in a virtual machine, so thanks14:59
hitsujiTMOnotwist: ahh sorry14:59
jimiMy calculator app disappeared from the applications menu. Anyone know what the name of the exec for it is?15:00
hitsujiTMOjimi: gnome-calculator15:00
trijntjenotwist: anyway, normal ubuntu wont run nice at all with what you gave your xubuntu15:00
bsdbanditgood morning aLl15:00
bsdbanditALL15:00
bsdbanditall15:00
notwisttrijntje: noone said it would15:00
actionParsnipjimi: or type the sum in to Google and use google calc15:01
DEA7THnotwist: I'd probably use the Windows very seldom15:01
hitsujiTMODEA7TH: in that case, stick to dualbooting.15:01
DEA7THhitsujiTMO: why not Windows under a VM?15:01
hitsujiTMODEA7TH: because you'd have to buy a new copy of windows for the VM15:01
notwistDEA7TH: as hitsujiTMO your OEM license wouldn't allow it15:02
hitsujiTMODEA7TH: if you wanted to spend more money on a new licence you could ofc15:02
notwistDual booting is the only way to get the most out of both operating systems, but you can only run one at a time. If you run Linux virtually inside Windows, you can run both side by side but you have a slight loss of performance for Linux. To me, it's very unlikely you'll need the extra performance gain and you're likely to run into more issues ahead with partitioning and all that stuff, but in the end it's your decision, I'm not saying I know what's b15:03
notwistOne example of an annoying issue is that if you install Windows cleanly and you already have Ubuntu installed, Windows will overwrite your MBR and Ubuntu will be "invisible" until you manually install GRUB again15:04
actionParsnipnotwist: you can use a lighter DE to reduce impact on the host as well as speed up the VM15:04
notwistMoving partitions or resizing them is data loss roulette so that's another thing that makes me avoid it15:04
taifunorkanStill ftp to localhost problems. I purged and reinstalled vsftp http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293 But no connection ????15:04
trijntjenotwist: that might be true for xubuntu, but ubuntu takes a noticable performance hit when run in a VM15:04
jimihitsujiTMO, thanks, that is perfect. How can I add it back to the applications menu?15:04
notwisttrijntje: xubuntu is still ubuntu, but with another desktop environment15:05
notwisttrijntje: so "ubuntu" isn't slow in a VM, Unity is15:05
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TJ-hitsujiTMO: An OEM Windows  can be installed in VMs provided it has a separate license (different from the license used by a host OEM install)15:05
TJ-hitsujiTMO: However, if the host OEM install is removed the host/hardware OEM license is OK15:06
taifunorkanvsftpd start/running, process 1303415:06
TJ-hitsujiTMO: See for reference "Can I install OEM on a virtual machine (VMware) ?" at http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/Pages/support-faq.aspx#faq215:07
trijntjenotwist: just don't tell people you can run ubuntu in a VM without noticable performance loss when you know thats not the case15:07
notwisttrijntje: the fact that someone uses ubuntu does not mean they are using unity15:08
notwisttrijntje: I use ubuntu server on one of my boxes for example, that's still "ubuntu"15:08
hitsujiTMOTJ-: To be more specific, HIS OEM licence is bound to his hardware. If you purchase an OEM licence for a VM, the licence becomes bound to the visualised hardware. Yes you can use AN OEM licence, but not HIS licence15:08
notwisttrijntje: so no, I wouldn't recommend anyone to run Ubuntu Desktop with Unity in Virtualbox, but running Ubuntu in general works just as well as running Debian or Arch Linux in a vm15:09
hitsujiTMOvirtualised*15:09
trijntjenotwist: just try to be specific about what you mean when you are giving people advice, so people don't get the worng idea15:09
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actionParsniptaifunorkan: can you not run SFTP? FTP is so archaic and not secure15:15
rigo88hi. i bought a simcard and a prepaid 1Gbyte internet on it. D1 network in germany the connection is 3g. it went fine for about 2-3 days. but it is annoying slow now. i cant do anything with it. what can cause the trouble? (no i havent used 1gb)15:15
actionParsniprigo88: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:15
DEA7THCan I split my HDD into two partitions (200 GB / 1800 GB) without formatting it if it has free space of 1900 GB?15:16
actionParsnipDEA7TH: you will need to resize the partitions, but yes15:16
rigo88uf. im not at home. but the system is an ubuntu 12.04 x64 afak..15:16
notwistDEA7TH: yep, but it's risky to resize partitions so backup anything you can't stand to lose15:17
actionParsniprigo88: also run:  lsusb     and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides15:17
rigo88i have a built in 3g device. the laptop is an acer aspire one (pretty old stuff)15:18
notwisttaifunorkan actionParsnip +1 for sftp if you have the option15:18
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Incorrect, the license goes with the hardware. See the MS Windows 7 OEM license, secetion 3d "Use with Virtualization Technologies. Instead of using the software directly on the licensed computer, you may install and use the software within only one virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system on the licensed computer."15:18
actionParsniprigo88: it will still show there, you can then see if it's a known issue. There may also be ways to make it faster15:18
notwistTJ-: thanks for looking it up15:18
rigo88but it went just fine for a couple of days, what can cause the slowdown?15:19
TJ-And on that note... I have 2 huskies dragging me off into the fields!15:19
mangoManEVERYONE SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT FAG METALEER HE IDLES IN ##PHYSICS AND #DEFOCUS HE IS A CANCER ON THIS FUCKING NETWORK dhdhh15:19
mangoManEVERYONE SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT FAG METALEER HE IDLES IN ##PHYSICS AND #DEFOCUS HE IS A CANCER ON THIS FUCKING NETWORK srydtydth15:19
taifunorkanactionParsnip o i only need for local testing drupal webiste on my own15:19
FloodBot1mangoMan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:19
mangoManEVERYONE SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT FAG METALEER HE IDLES IN ##PHYSICS AND #DEFOCUS HE IS A CANCER ON THIS FUCKING NETWORK e5y515:19
hitsujiTMOTJ-: my apologies then.15:19
actionParsniprigo88: updates may change things15:20
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Not necessary... MS have changed the rules several times over the past couple of years... it is hard to keep up.15:20
rigo88was my first tought. did update & upgrade15:20
rigo88no luck15:20
rigo88is that possible that  after a couple of hours of 360 youtube the 1Gb is used?15:21
trijntjeTJ-: thats nice to known, it might be easier to just put windows in a vm when I get a new pc rather then dualboot15:21
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yeah, used to work for a SBS partner, and things like that we got caught for with the licencing compliance15:21
actionParsniprigo88: not sure, you could setup a logging system to see how much data is flowing to see what is used.15:22
trijntjerigo88: it wil take a lot less than that to use 1Gb when watching youtube15:22
trijntjerigo88: If the speed is just 100kbps, you can burn through 1GB internet in about 15 minutes, so you might be in for a high bill15:23
hitsujiTMOrigo88: on a 25 min bus trip i can easily go thru 250mb of YT bandwidth15:23
trijntjeI'd disable the dongle for now and contact your service provider15:23
rigo88gr8 :D15:23
rigo88prepaid... so if its 0 than it is 0.. not less. but thanks. i guess i used the 1gb.15:24
rigo88the guy in the next room has also the same card. id better try out his.. anyways thanks for the suggestions!15:29
virhiloanyone see anything wrong in these log files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/405269/ubuntu-13-10-freezes-on-loading-initial-ramdisk-when-build-in-graphics-card-is15:29
Flezzyfirehi guys15:33
Flezzyfirewhd15:33
hitsujiTMOvirhilo: if you suspect plymouth to be the cause then remove 'splash' from the grub config and try again15:37
jiffethere any vulnerabilitiesin 12.04.2 ?15:38
jiffelooks like someone got in and rooted it15:38
hitsujiTMOjiffe: usually the user is the main vulnerability. How exactly have they rooted it?15:39
jiffehitsujiTMO: no clue, they've added users though15:39
chemist^lol :)15:40
hitsujiTMOjiffe: this a server or desktop?15:40
jiffeserver15:40
jiffeish15:40
jifferunning ubuntu server but not a production server15:40
trijntjejiffe: what users have they added? Programs can add users as well15:40
hitsujiTMOjiffe: is it directly on the net or behind a nat?15:40
jiffeno they added a user similar to an existing user15:40
jiffeits directly on the net15:41
virhilohitsujiTMO: works without splash15:41
hitsujiTMOjiffe: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/passwd15:41
virhilowould like to report plymouth bug, but have no clue what to report as these logs look fine15:42
firetool to burn iso image to usb, i just forgot it's name15:42
firenot dd, other one15:42
virhilofire: why not dd?15:42
fireunetinstaller something like that15:42
jiffehitsujiTMO: why would I pastebin my etc/passwd? :)15:42
hitsujiTMOvirhilo: so it is indeed plymouth. report a bug attach the logs and someone should talk you thru how to get more info after that15:42
jiffeI've already removed the user15:42
virhilohitsujiTMO: ok15:43
hitsujiTMOjiffe: ahh ok15:43
hitsujiTMOjiffe: when you say it was similar to an existing user, do you mean similar name?15:43
jiffehitsujiTMO: yes off my one letter15:43
fireok remembered now, unetbootin15:43
hitsujiTMOjiffe: how do you authenticate exactly?15:44
hitsujiTMOjiffe: when sshing that is?15:44
actionParsnipfire: there is no 'burning' with USB, its a magnetic media15:44
jiffehitsujiTMO: what do you mean, I use password auth15:44
actionParsnipfire: you burn a CD as a more intense laser is used to write the data to the surface, then a less intense laser to read it15:44
jiffethey got in because of an insecure password15:45
jiffeI'm not sure how they got root though15:45
fireactionParsnip: ahh ok right15:45
hitsujiTMOjiffe: thats your vulnerability right there i suspect.15:45
actionParsnipfire: you can use unetbootin to transfer the data to the USB storage15:45
hitsujiTMOjiffe: look at you auth.log in /var/log15:45
hitsujiTMOjiffe: have you enabled root?15:46
fireactionParsnip: ok :)15:46
llutzjiffe: they got in using your insecure password and you are the sudo/admin user? isn't it obvious how they got root then?15:46
jiffecrap15:47
jiffeyou're right15:47
jiffeI forgot about sudo15:47
jiffethat thing is horrible15:47
llutzjiffe: the admin is15:47
hitsujiTMOjiffe: also check: sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep root                           to see if they set a root password15:48
llutzpoor little kitten...15:49
jiffeI'm going to tear this machine down and rebuild it, I was just worried he had taken advantage of an exploit15:49
actionParsnipjiffe: how is it horrible, it makes your OS a lot more secure15:49
hitsujiTMOjiffe: to be honest. since you've no absolute way of knowing what has been effected you should be scrapping this server and preparing it for a reinstall an harden up security. use ssh keys.15:49
actionParsnipjiffe: your OS runs as user, so the access applications have is limited = more secure15:49
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jiffeapplications run as their own user regardless of sudo15:50
llutzjiffe: use key-auth in future15:50
actionParsnipjiffe: yes but if you log in as root, or administrator in Windows, the apps run as admin too15:51
actionParsnipjiffe: its a good user model15:51
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llutzuntil $hackz0r has the user-password15:53
jiffeactionParsnip: if you sudo exec an app it runs at root though no?15:53
hitsujiTMOjiffe: but requires a password... unless you disabled sudo asking for a password15:54
jiffehitsujiTMO: but if they've broken into my account via bruteforcing my password or by other means they have my password15:54
hitsujiTMOjiffe: yes, but thats why you use ssh keys. even if they break in they then need to figure out your password15:55
llutzjiffe: without sudo they would have brute-forced your root password, so what? _you_ are the weak-point in this chain15:55
jiffellutz: the user is definetely at fault, however your root password is generally a lot more secure than your user password15:56
llutzjiffe: its not15:56
jiffesure it is15:56
jiffeit should be15:56
hitsujiTMOjiffe: its only as secure as you make it15:56
llutzjiffe: "should be" yes, theory vs pracise15:57
actionParsnipjiffe: it runs as root, but uses the user's enviornment15:57
chemist^how do i install a mod .exe on a game installed with playonlinux?15:57
actionParsnipjiffe: there is no root pass in Ubuntu and the account is locked15:57
jiffeactionParsnip: all you need to do is sudo passwd root15:57
actionParsnipjiffe: the password for root is hashed, just like that of the other users15:57
actionParsnipjiffe: I know, but its not needed, or advised15:58
jiffeactionParsnip: I'm saying if they can sudo that's all the access they need15:58
actionParsnipjiffe: its disabled for a reason by developers and users who I am very sure know a hell of a lot more about Linux than you15:58
jiffeso if they have my user password they now have root15:58
llutzjiffe: if they can sudo, they don't need to set a root-password15:58
jiffewe're getting off my point15:58
jiffewith sudo you only need to brute force a user password15:59
actionParsnipjiffe: then that is unfortunate, no OS is 100% secure unless it is not on any network at all15:59
actionParsnipjiffe: its the same hash method for the root pass and user passwords15:59
jiffesay you have 10 sudo users, thats 10 times greater change of being able to break in15:59
llutzjiffe:1st: don't allow remote logins with password15:59
actionParsnipjiffe: they will also need to know the exact usernames15:59
hitsujiTMOjiffe: if you use ssh_keys and and enable the root user. they need to break the root account to get root access. if you use sshkeys and have an admin user, they need to get break into the user AND then bruteforce the password.15:59
actionParsnipjiffe: this is one of the many reasons root is disabled, as it is common on all nix boxes, so this is a definite username that will work16:00
jiffehitsujiTMO: never allow ssh in as root directly16:00
devboxCan I use chmod commands in an upstart script? I have a stubborn folder that wont mantain its permissions from one boot to the next.16:00
actionParsnipjiffe: they will not only need to brute force the password, but correctly guess a valid username, won't they?16:01
jiffeactionParsnip: and they did16:01
actionParsnipjiffe: again, its unfortunate but can happen16:01
jiffeI'm just saying none of this would have likely happened if sudo wasn't enabled on this user16:01
jiffetheir password was insecure but the controlled root password wan't16:02
actionParsnipjiffe: it makes it harder by a lot but once you get some access you can start climbing up16:02
yankihi, guys, someone can tell me how to add "SDL" library on linux?16:06
actionParsnipyanki: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc16:06
lazyg33khi everyone i hae a question i just install ubuntu and i have a amd ati dual core with gpu integrate where i can install the driver for this one?16:08
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hitsujiTMOlazyg33k: what do you need the gpu for exactly?16:09
lazyg33kthe display driver16:09
hitsujiTMOlazyg33k: as in are you playing games or what?16:09
lazyg33khitsujiTMO:  yes on steam16:10
mauriciormjhello, guys!16:10
lazyg33khitsujiTMO:  like dota 216:10
actionParsniplazarus_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics16:10
hitsujiTMOlazyg33k: fglrx is the proprietary driver16:10
mauriciormji would like to know some professional video editor16:10
lazyg33khitsujiTMO:  ok16:10
hitsujiTMOlazyg33k: i was asking as the open driver is generally preffered to the closed source driver16:11
mauriciormjfor ubuntu16:11
hitsujiTMOlazyg33k: it performs better for 2d acceleration16:11
lazyg33khitsujiTMO:  ok because in my resolution its not the one its supose to be and it not write my gpu it said integrate grafic16:11
lazyg33khitsujiTMO:  and linux display are really slow like when you not have install the driver in windows16:12
yankiactionParsnip : saucy16:12
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Guest71513hi tried to install nvidia current and it screwed up my screen resolution - can only get 640x480 - removed it and it still is the same - any help would be greatly appreciated16:13
actionParsnipmauriciormj: lightworks has been part of Oscar winning films....16:13
hitsujiTMOactionParsnip: gone a long time ago :)16:14
actionParsnip!find libsdl saucy | yanki16:14
ubottuyanki: Found: libsdl1.2-dbg, libsdl1.2-dev, libsdl1.2debian, erlang-esdl, libsdl-console, libsdl-console-dev, libsdl-gfx1.2-4, libsdl-gfx1.2-dev, libsdl-gfx1.2-doc, libsdl-gst (and 42 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all16:14
hitsujiTMOGuest71513: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log16:14
actionParsniphitsujiTMO: bah16:14
dennisxzhello everyone16:16
dennisxzanyone here know how to decrypt sha-1?16:17
Guest71513hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751195/16:17
hitsujiTMOdennisxz: sha1 isn't an encryption its a one way hash16:17
dennisxzok16:17
dennisxzsorry16:17
k1ldennisxz: what do you want to do anyway?16:17
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dennisxzi'm studying sha-116:18
yankiubottu : thanks.16:18
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:18
dennisxzsorry i'm just a noob :)16:18
Oogi need to do add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/$nginx16:19
Oogbut i like to use aptitude16:19
Oogdoes aptitude use apt respoitories?16:19
hitsujiTMOGuest71513: dmesg | pastebinit16:19
MunsterGuest71513, purge nvidia-current and use the nouveau driver16:19
llutzOog: sure16:19
trijntjedennisxz: I'd start with wikipedia, it has quite an extensive article on sha116:19
geniidennisxz: The usual method is brute-force. eg: you find the hash value of possible values and see if it equals the hash value you want to find the original value for.16:19
Guest71513Munster, how do I do that other than uninstall the nvidia driver16:20
Guest71513 dmesg | pastebinit16:20
dennisxzok tnx genii and triknjte :)16:20
CarlFKhow do I tell what dns servers are being used?16:20
knightshadehi16:20
dennisxztnx for ur opinion16:20
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MunsterGuest71513, sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current, then reboot16:20
hitsujiTMOMunster: nvidia-current is a meta-package. that wouldn't do anything16:21
CarlFKetc/resolve.conf says nameserver 127.0.1.116:21
Guest71513hitsujiTMO, I don't understand the dmesg command16:21
MunsterhitsujiTMO, it worked for me16:21
actionParsnipCarlFK: nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP416:21
trijntjeGuest71513: you have to put that in a terminal (ctrl + alt + t)16:22
actionParsnipCarlFK: assuming you are using eth0 as your interface16:22
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hitsujiTMOGuest71513: dmesg | pastebinit                        the | is part of the command16:22
MunsterGuest71513, just to make sure, after purging , install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau16:24
CarlFKactionParsnip: yep - thanks16:24
Guest71513http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751239/16:25
hitsujiTMOMunster: might be a good idea to see what exactly is going wrong before suggesting a fix. his Xorg log cannot find the nvidia driver so it suggests its not installed16:25
Oogi did apt-add-repository but its not lsited in /etc/apt/sources.list16:25
Guest71513Munster, thanks will try if nothing else16:25
Ooghow do i get a list of active repositories?16:25
actionParsnipOog: it is added as a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d16:25
Oogah16:25
Oogha16:25
actionParsnipOog: helps keep things organised16:25
CarlFKOog: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d16:26
CarlFKyeah, that.16:26
Oogthanks16:26
Guest71513HisaoNakai, did you see it ?16:26
Oogand aptitude uses this right?16:26
actionParsnipOog: yeou are using 64bit OS I don't suggest aptitude16:26
actionParsnipyes, aptitude uses the same16:26
MunsterhitsujiTMO, most users don't have an xorg.conf file16:27
Oogwhy is it bad for 64bit?16:27
hitsujiTMOMunster: Xorg log not conf16:27
llutzOog: there were some versions having problems with multiarch16:27
Guest71513going to purge and then reinstall nouveau be back for help or thanks :)16:27
Munsternot talking about the log16:28
actionParsnip!aptitude16:28
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.16:28
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PiciactionParsnip: that problem should be fixed.16:28
actionParsnipOog: why do you think its not in a default install.....16:28
actionParsnipPici: i'd not take any chances :)16:28
OogactionParsnip: i think it was in my install... im using 13.1016:29
actionParsnipOog: its not in a default install of Ubuntu16:29
Oogim using a linode server maybe they add it in by default16:30
actionParsnipOog: maybe16:30
zeer0Testdisk/Photorec related question: My computer crashed during the process, is it safe to delete the recovery folders and start anew or does this risk the recovery of files?16:30
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hitsujiTMOMunster: sorry but you're no longer making sense. what was your point?16:31
actionParsnipzeer0: the disk is only read, so should be ok to restart. Why do you not have a data backup if the data is worth expending effort to restore?16:31
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actionParsnipzeer0: then you could just restore from the backup....right?16:32
MunsterhitsujiTMO, don't be sorry, those commands worked for me on 2 nvidia linux pcs16:32
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TJ-actionParsnip: Oog: aptitude is a "Suggests" of fai-server, which is used in VM deployments such as Linode16:33
Guest75165hi - same problem after reinstalled nouveau16:33
lazyg33kcan we play steam game in ubuntu ?16:33
Pici!steam | lazyg33k16:33
ubottulazyg33k: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.16:33
actionParsniplazyg33k: yes there is a native client16:33
Guest75165getting only 640x480 and 73hz which is not right at all16:34
hitsujiTMO!wfm | Munster its not sound advice to tell someone to do something without seeing what the problem is16:34
ubottuMunster its not sound advice to tell someone to do something without seeing what the problem is: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/16:34
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  i install it but game will work ?16:34
actionParsnipGuest17428: did you try:  sudo NVidia-xconfig    after installing NVidia-current16:34
actionParsniplazyg33k: should do, yes. Assuming you have 3D acceleration in your video drivers etc16:34
hitsujiTMOGuest75165: what exact gpu do you have?16:35
Guest75165actionParsnip, no - that probably would do it16:35
Guest75165hitsujiTMO, 650ti16:35
actionParsnipGuest17428: worth a shot, its easy to backpeda16:35
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  i play it in windows i hae a big computer its fine thanks16:35
actionParsniplazyg33k: means nothing at all16:35
MunsterGuest75165, ok, there's a mesa-experimental app the works for dri and 3D, install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental16:35
actionParsniplazyg33k: if there is no 3D acceleration FOR UBUNTU, then games will not work16:35
actionParsniplazyg33k: what Windows does or doesn't do is of zero value, it is a totally different OS16:36
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  i c i just want to play dota 216:36
hitsujiTMOMunster: please refrain from giving out random advice without looking at what the problem is16:36
actionParsniplazyg33k: for example, You may be able to game on SiS or Chrome GPUs in Windows, but there is no 3D acceleration for them in Linux.16:36
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  ha ok16:37
MunsterhitsujiTMO, I had the same problem , have you?16:37
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  but he surely have for nvidia video card16:37
actionParsniplazyg33k: yes if you have the proprietary video drivers installed it should be ok16:37
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  thanks ots apreciate16:37
lazyg33kits *16:38
hitsujiTMOGuest75165: can you run: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit16:38
actionParsniplazyg33k: you'll have to check the Linux steam library to see if the game will run in Linux16:38
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  where is this list ?16:38
Guest75165hitsujiTMO, ok will do16:38
actionParsniplazyg33k: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dota&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=cr&ei=s2fVUvrHNoWBhAfS5oC4BA#q=dota+2+steam+linux&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&safe=off      top link....16:38
actionParsniplazyg33k: took me what....5 seconds..16:38
hitsujiTMOMunster: again: what worked for you may not work for him. It's best to look at the cause of thew problem rather take random guesses at what it is16:39
Guest75165http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751325/16:39
qkzoo1978So I added a group dosbox and I added my username to it.  I then created a directory dosbox and gave the group dosbox ownership to it, but my user still cannot write to it, any tips?16:39
actionParsniplazyg33k: ever tried that website, great for finding things....16:39
somsipqkzoo1978: did you logout and back in again after changing groups?16:39
actionParsnipqkzoo1978: what is the group owner of the folder?16:39
lazyg33kactionParsnip:  nice website ill keep it thanks16:39
TJ-qkzoo1978: changes in group membership require a new log-in session16:40
notwistqkzoo1978: someone will have to correct me if I'm wrong here but I don't think group ownership implies group read/write/execute access16:40
qkzoo1978somsip no I didn't16:40
hitsujiTMOGuest75165: hmm, i wonder how the 173 got there: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173 && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge16:40
actionParsnipqkzoo1978: sounds like you didn't change the group owner, or its access. So you still have acces via the group16:40
somsipqkzoo1978: as others have said, you need to. Other permissions issues notwithstanding16:40
qkzoo1978how do I change group ownership?16:41
MunsterhitsujiTMO, how do you know I didn;t experience the same resolution probs thay Guest75165 has, which in fact was the case.16:41
Guest75165actionParsnip, NVidia-xconfig is not found after installing nvidia-current16:41
TJ-qkzoo1978: You also need to ensure you did "chmod -R g+w $DIRNAME" if you want group members to be able to write to it and its children16:41
qkzoo1978TJ I did do that.16:41
TJ-qkzoo1978: OK ... so it sounds like a new log-in session is the answer16:41
notwistqkzoo1978: saying that "Group X owns folder Y" doesn't really help if the permissions are set so that the group cannot do what you want it to do, at least I think so16:42
hitsujiTMOMunster: 2 completely different problems can have give the same appearance. The onlything common you're seeing is that it ran with the a resolution of 640x480.16:42
Guest75165hitsujiTMO, I tried that first - blank screen - used built in graphics and uninstalled that and installed current16:42
qkzoo1978notwist: Well, I set the directory in question to have wrx for user and group.16:42
MunsterhitsujiTMO, well before t16:43
notwistchmod 777 is full access right, chmod 700 would be "user can do anything but deny groups and anyone else", so if you change the owner group that won't give you access if you have chmod 700 set16:43
arthuur1hi16:43
notwistI hope I didn't mess that up16:43
qkzoo1978I dunno, I get confused between 777 and wrx16:43
hitsujiTMOGuest75165: yes the 173 is for the older cards. lets see if we can bring you back to an original state. sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-current nvidia-settings-304 && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge16:43
notwistqkzoo1978: those are the same. 666 is read/write but not execute16:44
TJ-Guest75165: When the correct resolution isn't found automatically that implies the GPU and/or driver were unable to read the EDID configuration from the monitor... EDID defines the valid frequencies the monitor can handle... without that, the driver will choose a safe low-resolution default.16:44
arthuur1why can't i send to the ##linux channel16:44
qkzoo1978I just want to add it so that users I add to the group have full read write access, so that I can share a universal dosbox c drive (i installed some games for the kiddies).16:44
xangua!register | arthuur116:45
ubottuarthuur1: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode16:45
somsipqkzoo1978: make it chmod g+s. Tada16:45
hitsujiTMOTJ-: its loaded the fbdev driver for some odd reason and couldn't find the nvidia driver16:45
somsipqkzoo1978: and 770 or 77516:45
qkzoo1978somsip do I need -R?16:45
notwistqkzoo1978: yeah because -R is recursive otherwise it wont propagate16:45
qkzoo1978ok thanks notwist16:45
notwistqkzoo1978: also take extreme care when running the command16:45
somsipqkzoo1978: no as you want different permissions for files than dirs16:45
notwistyou dont want to run it on / and mess up your whole file system16:45
qkzoo1978ok16:46
somsipqkzoo1978: find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 770; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 660 (from the folder you are changing, adapat as necessary)16:46
TJ-hitsujiTMO: really? I saw the original dmesg output that showed nvidia and the vesafb were being loaded by the kernel (mine does that I have a custom grub command-line so I have TTYs and nvidia). Have I missed the Xorg.0.log being pastebinned?16:46
notwistsomsip: what's wrong with just 770 recursively?16:46
somsipnotwist: why add +x to non-executables?16:46
hitsujiTMOTJ-: yes that was a bit earlier16:47
hitsujiTMOTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751195/16:47
bill_hi - I removed nvidia 173 and nvidia current but it still is 640x480 when I reboot16:48
TJ-hitsujiTMO: "(EE) [drm] KMS not enabled" ... that's a result of "nomodeset" isn't it?16:49
qkzoo1978thanks for help guys, gunna do  a reboot16:49
sulivanhi patterson16:49
bill_hitsujiTMO, anything else to do - still at 630x48016:49
bill_hitsujiTMO, and no nvidia drivers16:50
hitsujiTMObill_: not to worry, nouveau may still be blacklisted. cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia16:50
hitsujiTMObill_: not to worry, nouveau may still be blacklisted. cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau16:50
TJ-bill_: Can you pastebin "cat /proc/cmdline"  too?16:50
hitsujiTMObill_: sorry use the second line^16:50
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manjunathmsg cool_bhavi16:51
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bill_hitsujiTMO, blacklist nouveau16:52
bill_blacklist lbm-nouveau16:52
bill_alias nouveau off16:52
bill_alias lbm-nouveau offoptions vmwgfx enable_fbdev=116:52
bill_sorry for lack of pastebin16:52
TJ-go2Sesame216:53
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hitsujiTMObill_: sudo sed -i 's/blacklist nouveau//' /etc/modprobe.d/*16:53
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hitsujiTMObill_: actually sorry also: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/ | pastebinit16:54
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bill_hitsujiTMO, done16:55
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751417/16:55
CarlFKis there a vlc-extras or something that has more video codacs?  ppa maybe?16:56
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hitsujiTMObill_: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-304_hybrid.conf16:56
bill_hitsujiTMO, done16:56
nattgalHi do some one here know how to boot ubuntu from a usb to instal it on a mac with snow leopard?16:56
hitsujiTMObill_: now: cat /proc/cmdline16:56
hitsujiTMO!mac | nattgal16:57
ubottunattgal: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages16:57
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/SXt2DUJr16:58
TJ-bill_: thanks; that looks good16:59
SURAJHI EVERYBODY16:59
bill_TJ-, hitsujiTMO should I reboot now and cross my fingers :)17:00
hitsujiTMObill_: for now we also need to add nomodeset for the nouveau driver. sudo sed -i 's/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"/' /etc/default/grub17:00
bill_done17:00
hitsujiTMObill_: then: sudo update-grub17:01
glda19hi17:01
bill_done17:01
hitsujiTMObill_: reboot and fingers crossed17:01
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bill_hitsujiTMO, thanks - that was a bunch of stuff just because of trying to install nvidia - be back with comments17:02
soulasassincan anyone tell me how to customise the screen resolution for kubuntu when running it in virtualbox on a windows host?17:03
bill_hitsujiTMO, still the same17:04
hitsujiTMObill_: ok. lets look at the logs again: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit17:05
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751458/17:06
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751459/17:06
Oogafter installing nginx how can i refresh the service list? servie start nginx says not found17:07
Oognm17:07
antonio__.xchat2/budus.so17:08
dms123sooo, hey guys, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu (and irc too, btw) and I'm currently experiencing some problems with installing Ubuntu Desktop (13.10 I think) on my Netbook. The Installation just kind of freezes while running update-grub. Freezing meening it can still move around the mouse and klick stuff but the installation will neither fail nor continue. First attempts to google this weren't17:08
dms123successfull, so.. anybody able to help me with this?17:08
antonio__ /load .xchat2/budus.so17:09
actionParsnipquiet today17:10
antonio__usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]17:10
antonio__Version 3.7.8617:10
antonio__By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e17:10
TJ-bill_: "find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -type f -iname 'nvidia*'  "17:11
Oogservice nginx start is working but when i kill the master nginx process it doesnt restart - it shoudl right?17:11
bill_hitsujiTMO, /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-lowlatency/updates/dkms/nvidia_304.ko17:11
bill_/lib/modules/3.11.0-15-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko17:11
hitsujiTMObill_: something bizarre going on here still loading NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  304.88  Wed Mar 27 14:26:46 PDT 2013  304 is still being loaded17:12
bill_hitsujiTMO, reading kernel taint in logs and then drops to vesa17:12
TJ-bill_: How about "ls -la /usr/src/"17:12
dms123oh yeah, last line of terminal output is "Succesfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' "17:13
TJ-bill_: And this: "dkms status nvidia-304"17:13
Brian666Anyone looking for Ubuntu virutal machine?17:14
bill_TJ-, http://pastebin.com/gymxsuNE17:14
hitsujiTMObill_: can you also once again: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia17:14
bill_hitsujiTMO, nvidia-304install17:14
bill_nvidia-settings-304install17:14
bill_TJ-, nvidia-304, 304.88, 3.11.0-15-lowlatency, x86_64: installed17:15
bill_hitsujiTMO, TJ- I do not know how they can still be installed17:15
hitsujiTMObill_: this is a little peculiar: once again: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-settings-304 && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge17:15
fluffy_ferretfor some reason Ubuntu 13.10 enables my second monitor at login-screen after boot-up even though it's disabled in settings. I have ATI HD 5-series, binary x.org driver... any clue how to "fix"?17:16
Brian666Selling Ubuntu Virtual machine 2TB of space17:16
hitsujiTMO!ot | Brian66617:16
ubottuBrian666: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:16
actionParsnipBrian666: this is support, please try elsewhere17:17
bill_hitsujiTMO, that did something - a lot of stuff removed17:17
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dms123no one? Is there any place I can get help with these more basic install problems?17:18
hitsujiTMObill_: once again: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit17:18
bill_trying to send an empty document17:18
bill_hitsujiTMO, trying to send an empty document17:19
hitsujiTMObill_: thats a little unnerving. nvidia-common should at least be there17:19
bill_hitsujiTMO, well - hmm17:19
hitsujiTMObill_: once again: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/ | pastebinit17:19
bill_hitsujiTMO, that last purge command removed a bunch of stuff17:19
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751525/17:20
hitsujiTMObill_: i'm wondering if the 173 installed an older xorg. could be part of the problem17:20
jammanboAm trying to switch my EC2 instance running 12.04 LTS to XFS. Have attached an XFS formatted volume, cloned / to it, replaced all references to "LABEL=cloudimg-rootfs" in the new volume's /boot with "/dev/sda1", and made an AMI of the new volume. Still when it tries to boot is says "ALERT!  /dev/sda1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"17:21
bill_hitsujiTMO, yeah I am thinking that as well -17:21
hitsujiTMObill_: ok, reboot and try again17:21
jammanboHave been stuck for days. Could use halp :/17:21
bill_hitsujiTMO, or at least 173 did something severe17:21
XzeionI am having trouble getting my upstart script to run at boot time. It works, just not automatically at boot17:21
bill_hitsujiTMO, ok17:21
intraderAnyone, I am confused with Dash Home. I have just installed gvim, yet Dash Home says 'Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search'; yet the icon for Vim appears in the launcher and I can lauch vim. help me understand this behavior please.17:21
Daekdroomintrader, does gvim show up in your Launcher?17:22
bill_hitsujiTMO, well something changed I now have 1024x768 - need 1920x108017:24
ivchoUsing Mate , No Desktop background17:24
hitsujiTMObill_: ok. lets look at the logs again: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit17:24
hitsujiTMOivcho: cat /etc/issue17:24
dms123I'm just gonna keep talking about my problem, maybe someone will get interested :P Just to sum it up: New Ubuntu 13.10 install won't get past running update-grub, last line of terminal output is "Succesfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' " latest thing i noticed through the timestamps is that the activation of that service (succesfully) seems to be repeating itself like17:24
dms123every 4 or 5 minutes. It's stuck in some kind of loop...17:24
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751552/17:25
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751553/17:25
hitsujiTMObill_: ok vesa this time instead of fbdev17:25
hitsujiTMObill_: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau17:26
bill_hitsujiTMO, yes but I still see nvidia in there17:26
intraderDaekdroom, I can lauch gvim from the terminal and then it appears on the launcher  - but then I get ** (gvim:7355): WARNING **: Unable to create Ubuntu Menu Proxy: Timeout was reached' Unnity menu management s...17:26
bill_hitsujiTMO, comes back empty17:27
bill_hitsujiTMO, does not find nouveau in modprobew17:27
interdpthHi, had my Ubuntu PC overheat this morning. Is there an error log I could find?17:28
intraderDaekdroom, by the way, the launched gvim has menu in the terminal window.17:28
hitsujiTMOinterdpth: /var/log/syslog17:28
bgardnerdms123: What's your netbook model?17:28
interdpththanks17:28
dms123It's an Asus EEE PC 1001PG17:29
hitsujiTMObill_: interesting. dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit17:29
bgardnerdms123: Ok, stand by17:29
dms123thank you :)17:29
TJ-bill_: "grep vesafb /etc/modules"17:29
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751570/17:29
bill_TJ-, comes back empty17:30
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751570/ - in case you missed it :)17:31
bgardnerdms123: See my PM17:31
demoneye_what kind of skype we use in Ubuntu? or should i d/l it from skype web site?17:31
actionParsnipintrader: if you make your own .desktop file for gvim in /usr/share/applications it wil show in Dash17:31
actionParsnipdemoneye_: that or usethe deb from the partner repo. Both will do the same thing17:32
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interdpthhttp://pastebin.com/qAsU7jae anyway to pull a better error log then17:33
demoneye_actionParsnip,  :where can i get the repo one?17:33
intraderactionParsnip, I understand - I have not tried that - I wish that installing gvim from package manager it would to the .desktop file17:33
ddsschow THE FUCK do I empty trash in mint? seriously...17:33
actionParsnipintrader: a reasonable assumption but it appears its missing. You could report a bug to get one added to the package17:34
actionParsnipddssc: mint is not supported here17:34
actionParsnip!mint | ddssc17:34
ubottuddssc: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:34
hitsujiTMObill_: what do you get from: sudo apt-get install -s nvidia-common | pastebinit17:35
TJ-intrader: Try "dpkg-query -S gvim.desktop"17:35
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751599/17:35
TJ-intrader: I've found with Unity that I've had to log-in again to get newly installed applications recognised, sometimes.17:36
actionParsnipTJ-: could press ALT+F2 and run:  'r'17:36
intraderactionParsnip, prior to the latest updates to unity - I am running 12.04, the package used to be appropriately configured. Report a bug on ubuntu? or vim?17:37
bugtraqalguien de argentina??17:37
TJ-actionParsnip: I had to give up on Gnome/Unity ... it can't handle my screen configuration so I'm using kde/kubuntu. Not had the same issue in KDE so far.17:38
actionParsnipTJ-: I don't use a DE now, I think its a waste :)17:39
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actionParsnipintrader: gvim17:39
bill_hitsujiTMO, should I try and reinstall nouveau ?17:40
intraderactionParsnip, gvim is not at fault here - unity is17:40
TJ-intrader: did you try log-out/log-in ?17:41
actionParsnipintrader: is there a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications ?17:41
hitsujiTMO bill_ not sure if that will help. that would install the xorg driver but i believe its the kernel module is where the problem lies17:41
hitsujiTMObill_: it ofc wouldn't hurt17:41
prashant_123456can we use private key to authenticate ssh connection ?17:41
actionParsnipintrader: grep -I exec= /usr/share/applications/* | grep -I vim17:42
bill_hitsujiTMO, I am using the low latency kernel - maybe an issue there17:42
intraderactionParsnip, gvim.desktop is there17:42
hitsujiTMObill_: it shouldn't be an issue afaik17:42
TJ-bill_: "lspci -nn | grep VGA && modinfo nouveau | grep alias | pastebinit"17:42
TJ-bill_: actually, that won't do it... hang on!17:43
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751650/17:43
fak3rMacbook Pro 5,5 (2009) running 13.10 Mac - what is the diff for the Mac version? Download link doesn't tell me specifically, is it just drivers?17:43
bill_TJ-, shows the nvidia 650ti - so now I am really confused17:44
hitsujiTMOlspci -knn | grep VGA -A 3 | pastebinit                             is what17:44
TJ-hitsujiTMO: beat me to it :p17:44
hitsujiTMOTJ-: could see what you were after :P17:45
intraderactionParsnip, I wonder how supplied it - by the way I find 'Exec=gvim -f %F' in the file17:45
TJ-hitsujiTMO: yeah... translating local shell to pastebin sometimes has its pitfalls :)17:45
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actionParsnipintrader: then you are right, Unity has not refreshed. Try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  r     yes, just the letter. May help17:46
hitsujiTMObill_: lspci -knn | grep VGA -A 3 | pastebinit17:46
corieyes17:46
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751664/17:46
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751664/17:47
hitsujiTMObill_: its not finding a driver at all. something wrong with nouveau somewhere.17:47
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Didn't one of bill_'s /etc/modprobe.d/ results show an alias/option string for nouveau?17:48
hitsujiTMOTJ-: that was removed17:48
TJ-bill_: "lsmod | grep vesa | pastebinit"17:49
FireStormsHello, I'm trying to "backup" my files so I can move them to another HDD. I also need to backup my LAMP data. I have a dysfunctional 30GB pen drive, a dvd, and a 4gb sd card. How should I backup?17:49
hitsujiTMObill_: TJ- lets have a look again: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau17:49
hitsujiTMObill_: TJ- lets have a look again: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau | pastebinit17:49
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I'm wondering if there's a specific loading of [u]vesafb going on17:49
apb1963How can I update Qt to 4.8.5 please?17:49
bill_hitsujiTMO, empty document17:49
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TJ-bill_: how about "lsmod | grep vesa | pastebinit"17:50
mmazing2##aws17:50
bill_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751673/17:50
hitsujiTMOwe might have a winner17:50
wadAny on you guys tried Ubuntu with full disk encryption?17:50
hitsujiTMObill_: pastebinit /etc/module17:51
hitsujiTMObill_: pastebinit /etc/modules17:51
TJ-hitsujiTMO: yeah, I had bill_ grep that earlier for vesafb - no result17:51
hitsujiTMOwad: many have. LUKS is the installer method of full disk encryption17:51
bill_hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751679/17:51
wadhitsujiTMO, okay, that's encouraging.17:51
TJ-wad: Yes, I do. I even have grub's boot partition encrypted17:52
actionParsnipapb1963: there may be a PPA17:52
wadI got Ubuntu all nicely installed on my new computer here at work, and was just told that I was required to use full disk encryption.17:52
wadIs it a pain to add encryption after install?17:52
* wad holds his breath17:52
TJ-wad: Depends if there's some free space or a spare hard drive or large USB hanging around17:52
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wadTJ-,  there is a ton of free space, so that won't be a problem.17:53
TJ-wad: If you want full disk encryption you'll need to 'move' the existing install out the way17:53
* wad nods17:53
swebmy hdd want to explode ... jbd2/sda use 100% IO17:53
swebhow can i solve this issue ?17:53
swebubuntu 13.0417:53
wadsweb, try using iotop to see what is doing it?17:54
TJ-sweb: find out what process is causing it with iotop17:54
wadTJ-,  beetcha. ;)17:54
actionParsnipsweb: raring is EOL in a matter of weeks, you may want to upgrade to Saucy17:54
bill_hitsujiTMO, sorry to be such a pain - but I am at a loss other than reinstalling nouveau or the entire os (that is a big job as I have a lot of personal work on the system)17:55
swebTJ-: what column for PID ?17:55
swebin iotop17:55
hitsujiTMObill_: you want to try adding in the generic kernel? and see if that makes a difference?17:55
intraderactionParsnip, ALT+F2 gives me a login - I log in and `r` is not there . Sorry for delay - I had to reboot at that point17:55
hitsujiTMObill_: altho i can't see why it would17:56
bill_hitsujiTMO, sure - if you could give the command for me - and I would still be able to load the low latency at boot if needed17:56
wadTJ-, so the process to encrypt the disk might be something like: 1. Shrink the current partition, and make another one, 2. Reinstall Ubuntu to the new partition, 3. mount the original partition and move everything over17:56
intraderactionParsnip, when I launch gvim from the launcher, the unity menu appears! What is `r`?17:57
TJ-wad but that isn't full disk encryption, that's partition encryption :)17:57
wadah....17:57
wadSo how would I do it for full disk encryption?17:57
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actionParsnipintrader: makes unity rerun, may help17:58
hitsujiTMObill_: reinstall nouveau: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau17:58
intraderactionParsnip, once loged in `r` is not found17:58
bill_hitsujiTMO, ok I will reboot and see17:59
swebwad, TJ-, actionParsnip : http://upcity.ir/images2/74813513905822076486.png17:59
hitsujiTMObill_: install generic kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic17:59
hitsujiTMObill_: try the reboot before the kernel17:59
googWhat's the best technicque to keep host files synchronized on multiple hosts?17:59
bill_hitsujiTMO, oops18:00
bill_hitsujiTMO, I am a little too quick :)18:00
interdpthhttp://pastebin.com/qAsU7jae anyway to pull a better error log? it's from var/log/syslog I woke up to horrible beeping, turned it off. That's what the log shows for the time frame. I can't find any info on this18:00
wadLooks like jdb2 is a RAID?18:00
wadThat's my guess.18:00
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babybeeHi,  Anyone can tell me which version ubuntu desktop has gnome 3.8 as default?18:00
swebwat, no it's normal partition in my laptop18:00
hitsujiTMObill_: lol, not a big deal. you may need to select the generic kernel in grub18:00
swebnormal HHD without RAID or LVM18:01
bill_hitsujiTMO, thanks so much for your help -18:01
hitsujiTMObill_: reboot and have a look18:01
apb1963actionParsnip: Thanks.  Although I googled previously I didn't really know what to look for.  Now I've found this: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-60118.html which if I'm understanding correctly implies I either need to specify the version explicitly somehow, or run apt-get dist-upgrade ....18:01
KI7MTgoog, best, not sure, a good tool for the job, rsync18:02
wadsweb, strange.... so there is no actual program that is using 99% of IO?18:02
swebwad, how can i find out ? which program ?18:02
wadWell, normally iotop will show you. But in this case, the "command" is  just the name of the partition. That doesn't seem useful.18:02
intraderactionParsnip, once loged in after ALT+F2 how do I get back?18:03
wadsweb, did you see this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=11351618:03
actionParsnipintrader: get back what?18:03
googKI7MT: thanks- and if multiple hosts are ssh key protected, do you usually install both private and public key set on all machines so they could connect to each others?18:03
googKI7MT: one key pair goes to all machines?18:04
wadsweb, it's the journalling process running.18:04
diz---232How do I import bookmarks from internet explorer (I have like 100 .url files) I backed up before installing linux into Chrome or Firefox? It requires a single .htm file on import...18:04
swebwad, so what can i do ?18:04
intraderactionParsnip, ALT+F2 gives a full terminal screen with a login request. If I log in my only option is to restart18:04
hell_Hey everyoe18:04
hell_i want to know that how can i develop 3D Ui on ubuntu18:05
actionParsnipintrader: tried F11 to kill the fullscreen-ness18:05
wadsweb, I recommend reading that link: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=11351618:05
hell_and that to on beaglebone black18:05
hell_any ideas?18:05
KI7MTgoog, Depends oh you sync needs, and it what order etc, as in who needs to sync with who, that's all I use is ssh-key make slife easy .., ssh-add <key-you-want-to-use> then ssh-copy-id  to the destination host.,18:06
swebwad, change fstab commit ?18:06
KI7MT*depends on your .. ..18:06
swebwad, it's the kernel bug seems so, isnt ?18:06
apb1963actionParsnip:  it's also not clear to me if I have the right ppa or not18:06
wadsweb, I don't know, I didn't read the whole thing.18:06
wadThat should give you a start, though.18:06
* wad <----------------- not an expert18:06
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intraderactionParsnip, I'll remember that, thanks. By the way GVIM launches from launcher with unity menus18:07
KI7MTgoog, sri about the topo's .. im on a very small interface at the moment.18:07
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googKI7MT: thank you. i didn't know about those two commands. i'll learn those18:08
billi18:08
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KI7MTgoog, Yeah, makes transferring and managing keys a snap.18:08
Guest1683hitsujiTMO,  no go on the video - thank you for you help - I am going to take a break and then probably reinstall after I back up everything18:09
actionParsnipintrader: cool18:09
MunsterGuest1683, make sure nouveau isn'r18:10
googKI7MT: is it a bad practice to generate just one pub-prv key pair and use them on many machines?18:10
Bending_Spoonshi everyone I have a question18:10
gordonjcpgoog: extremely18:10
googgordonjcp: :'(18:10
Guest1683Munster, make sure what ?18:10
MunsterGuest1683,  notstill blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf18:10
googi've done it all wrong18:10
googi hate myself18:10
Picigoog: it really depends.18:10
intraderactionParsnip, thanks for you help18:11
hitsujiTMOGuest1683: fair enough. I'm after running out of ideas of what can be the cause. I still suspect nvidia-173 as the cause of the problem. I've seen that downgrade xorg in previous releases and do other funky stuff in the current release18:11
KI7MTgoog, well some would say yes, but for instance, in one domain space, I have like 60+ server, im not going to generate ner for each one .. then in another domain, I may has 30 or so, but will ad a diff key for that.18:11
Guest1683Munster, thanks I will check18:11
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munircan anybody explain how to install a software on ubuntu18:11
andrea86I am connecting my external LCD monitor (LG Flatron W2452v) to the VGA port on my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad T430). However the natural res of 1920x1200 is not detected. I have tried adding this mode to xrandr, and I can select it via the Screen Display, but my monitor indicates that the refresh rate is out of range. This should be 75Hz according to monitor specs..if I set it to 60Hz, the image is squashed. Any help? :)18:11
Guest1683hitsujiTMO, can I do a sudo apt-get upgrade - and get xorg back to right level18:12
googKI7MT:  in the ideal scenario, should each and every machine have their own key pair?18:12
actionParsnipKI7MT: that's why we have cssh :)18:12
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Guest1683: I wonder if we could try modprobe nouveau18:12
hitsujiTMOGuest1683: It should be correct for you18:12
actionParsnipmunir: use software centre18:12
googKI7MT: or every edge between nodes must have their own pair?18:13
hitsujiTMOTJ-: he got an error when trying earlier, but still worth a shot18:13
KI7MTgoog, It's really up to you and your security model / needs18:13
muniryes but i cant find the software i want to install actionp18:13
actionParsnipmunir: what do you want to install?18:13
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I'd expect it really... vesafb will have it18:13
munirits calld bankid18:13
googKI7MT: thanks i believe i got what you mean by that18:13
bgardner!ask | Bending_Spoons18:14
Bending_Spoonsis there a place where people who aren't employees of Canonical, developers, documentation writers, or designers but are just average users can go to provide feedback?  Somewhere where Canonical and other Ubuntu contributors will see what I have to say?18:14
ubottuBending_Spoons: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:14
munirfolder type .tar18:14
hitsujiTMOTJ-: only other thing i can think of is going thru everything in /etc/modprobe.d18:14
TJ-hitsujiTMO: possibly we should be checking /etc/initramfs/modules and related18:15
munircan someone plz help18:16
actionParsnipmunir: seems you need to extract the archive, then there is a nice .desktop file you can use to run it..18:16
SonikkuAmerica!help | munir18:16
ubottumunir: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:16
actionParsnipmunir: in the archive there is an install script!  just run that.....18:17
xxmatemunir: is it tar.bz2?18:17
hitsujiTMOTJ-: lets have a look at both, alto i don't think ititramfs should effect it too much at this level18:17
actionParsnipmunir: it will install the application for you.... all you had to do was read....18:18
muniractionparsnip i just extract the folder but cant find setup thing18:18
hitsujiTMOTJ-: except he's gone :(18:18
Bending_SpoonsI hate to repeat my question, but is there a place where people who aren't employees of Canonical, developers, documentation writers, or designers but are just average users can go to provide feedback?  Somewhere where Canonical and other Ubuntu contributors will see what I have to say?18:18
TJ-hitsujiTMO: We'll never know :D18:18
xxmatemunir: just see the tutorial here: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/compile-install-tar-gz-tar-bz2-files-ubuntu-linux/18:18
KI7MTactionParsnip, I've not used cssh, but reading the docs, it's not a tool I have a use for.18:18
actionParsnipmunir: install.4.19.1.11663.sh    will install the application for you....18:19
TJ-hitsujiTMO: I was up until 5am today hacking on a failed UEFI Win7 in a VM... I don't mind the rest :)18:19
actionParsnipKI7MT: very awesome, specially when the systems are exactly the same :)18:19
hitsujiTMOBending_Spoons: there's plenty of places depending on what you want to say, launchpad/forum/etc18:19
actionParsnipKI7MT: as they should be in a cluster18:19
__raven13.10 64 on asus eeepc 1225c with intel atom n2600: extremely bad video performance with hd AND non hd videos. am i missing something/how to find out?18:19
muniraction if u can install the software for me thats mean ubuntu its not safe18:20
KI7MTactionParsnip, Just because there's x-number of servers in a space, just not meant they are even remotely the same or therer to do the same things.18:21
kieppiehi folks18:21
actionParsnip__raven: what GPU does it use?18:21
actionParsnipKI7MT: then its not a cluster, we have clusters of 10 to 20 systems, all 100% alike except hostname and IP address18:21
Bending_SpoonshitsujiTMO where would you suggest I go?  I'm looking for a place that is frequented by Canonical employees and Ubuntu contributors.  Especially those that are working on Ubuntu Touch.18:23
kieppieI'm frikkin' sick & tired of the absolute horrid state of power management on my HP Envy notebook - stock ubuntu (relatively fresh). Hibernation is absolutely broken - fails to hibernate properly whebn instructed, does not recognise (or honor propery) hardware events (hibernate action triggered, lid closed), does not always come back properly, 50/50 breaks network stack when comes online, etc18:23
KI7MTactionParsnip, There are many told for cluster management, but his question did not say he needed a cluster management solution, only that he needed to sync several machines.18:23
kieppieany suggested fixes?18:23
KI7MT*many tools18:23
hitsujiTMO__raven: that uses a horrible powervr gpu. The drivers for it suck and powervr refuse to release the specs for it so there's no open driver18:23
__ravenactionParsnip: intel gma 3600 or 365018:24
PiciBending_Spoons: #ubuntu-touch has that.18:24
actionParsnipKI7MT: that will work too18:24
FireStormsI recently formatted a 30GB pen drive to ext2 using Gparted, but now files are mysteriously "going missing" after I upload files to it. Is there some tool to test the "integrity" of the drive or something similar?18:24
__ravenhitsujiTMO: yes i read about that - hopefully there is a solution anyway18:24
actionParsnipkieppie: what is the output of:  sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a    please use http://pastie.og (or similar) to host18:24
actionParsnipFireStorms: before you physically unplug the storage, do you use the safe removal feature in your operating system?18:25
hitsujiTMOBending_Spoons: what exactly is the issue? launchpad is suitable for bug reports/suggestions. The forum would be suitable for other enquiries. But it depends on the what you're looking to say18:25
actionParsnip__raven: and the output of:   cat /etc/issue18:25
FireStormsactionParsnip, no never, i just yank it out18:25
actionParsnipFireStorms: that's why then18:26
FireStormsactionParsnip, i've never had a problem prior to this though18:26
actionParsnipFireStorms: why do you think that functionality is in the OS!?18:26
__ravenactionParsnip: its ubuntu 13.1018:26
actionParsnipFireStorms: you are not allowing your OS to final sync the caches, so you will get data loss18:26
FireStormsactionParsnip, ok point taken. I guess I'll reformat it and try again. Thanks for youe help18:27
kieppiehi actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/j9GD8WaP18:27
actionParsnipFireStorms: I suggest you plug in the device, unmounts the storage and run an fsck on the storage. Then eject the device in CLI, you can now unplug the device. Plug it back in and you can use it as you expect18:28
actionParsnipFireStorms: no need to format18:28
actionParsnip!info Linux-image saucy18:28
ubottuPackage Linux-image does not exist in saucy18:28
ajeffcoDoes Ubuntu server 12.04.03 still require a patched grub to boot from SAN?18:29
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actionParsnip!info Linux-image-generic saucy18:29
ubottuPackage Linux-image-generic does not exist in saucy18:29
glass|2hi, i've unsquashed and then resquashed filesystem.squashfs from live cd, rebuilt the iso but at boot it show only a initrd shell. how fix this?18:29
hitsujiTMOactionParsnip: linux-image-generic maybe :p18:29
Bending_SpoonsI'm not a Ubuntu contributor--heck, I don't even have Ubuntu installed on my PC--but I have been following the news about Ubuntu Touch, and am interested in potentially buying a Ubuntu phone and a Ubuntu tablet when they are released, and it occurred to me that if Canonical truely wants input from the community on Ubuntu Touch, then that is something I would like to participate in.18:29
actionParsnipkieppie: where did you get the kernel from?18:30
trijntjeglass|2: what are you trying to do exactly?18:30
__ravenhitsujiTMO actionParsnip  any driver/solution to improve the performance of the gma 36x0?18:30
trijntjeBending_Spoons: You should probably ask in #ubuntu-touch, this room is more for tech support issues18:31
glass|2trijntje: i want customize live cd, and the first step was unsquash/resquash filesystem without change nothing, but it doesn't boot18:31
kieppie actionParsnip: I believe it' stock. I did install a kernel from kernel.org a few months back because of power-management issues that wat not resolved at the time18:32
hitsujiTMOBending_Spoons: generic feedback would be best in the forums. #ubuntu-touch is good for chat and launchpad would be a place for reports from your usage of the system. i.e. if you're running the beta on a supported device18:32
actionParsnipkieppie: we cannot support 3rd party kernels here, we can only support the kernels from the Ubuntu repos18:33
actionParsnipkieppie: so its not stock, you are throwing random kernels you find on the web onto your PC.18:34
trijntjeglass|2: what guide are you following, and what customisations do you want to make? Have you tried using ubuntu-defaults-builder, I use that to make Dutch ubuntu images18:34
kieppieactionParsnip: understandable. will revert back to mainline kernel - warts & all - & report back18:35
biggdadd73I have a question but not sure where to ask...about installing Ubuntu Server 12.04 or really any version and mounting points...is this the right place?18:35
actionParsnipkieppie: thanks18:35
kieppieactionParsnip: mainline kernels from kernel.org are hadly 'random'18:35
hitsujiTMObiggdadd73: ask away18:35
trijntjebiggdadd73: yep, ask away18:35
trijntjelol18:35
biggdadd73ok the scenario is this:  I have XMBC install on a WIN PC (just info). it was partitioned with Movies, Videos, etc...18:36
actionParsnipkieppie: they are not from the offial Ubuntu repositories18:36
glass|2trijntje: i've followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization18:37
biggdadd73my question is if I install Ubuntu Server will I be able to mount those partitions and retain the files or will I lose it all?18:37
actionParsnipbiggdadd73: is the Windows PC operational?18:38
trijntjebiggdadd73: You should still have all those partitions when you install ubuntu, as long as you have room for an ubuntu partition18:38
trijntjeglass|2: and what changes do you want to make?18:38
DF3D2uhm can someone help me? I'm supposed to fill out a job application but they sent me a .mhtml file, I can open it in firefox but then i'm not actually running it in their website. Anything I can do, or do I just need them to email me a direct link ??18:38
biggdadd73yes the PC is operational but it has a much large HD then my current Ubuntu Server18:39
actionParsnipbiggdadd73: then how are you going to 'lose' anything? Or are you wanting to dual boot?18:39
actionParsnipDF3D2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114153818:40
biggdadd73no duel boot required I was just reading about partitions yesterday...18:40
actionParsnipbiggdadd73: ahh so wipe out Windows OS but leave data partitions?18:40
actionParsnipDF3D2: http://superuser.com/questions/128801/how-can-i-open-an-mht-file-in-linux-ubuntu18:40
DF3D2actionParsnip, thanks, I already installed that -- that lets me open the file but the "next" button in it doesnt work im guessing it is a multi page application18:40
actionParsnipDF3D2: people also say Opera can do it. Might be worth a try18:41
biggdadd73yes that is the plan to wipe out windows and install Ubuntu but I want to mount the other partitions as Movies, Music etc18:42
androiiddПРивіт18:42
biggdadd73let me see if I can reword it better...18:42
androiidd?18:43
biggdadd73I have Windoze on C:/ Movies on D:/ Music on F:/18:43
kieppieactionParsnip: fair enough. IIRC I had to install the 3.11.8+ kernel, as the current ones lacked some hardware support - I think it had something to do with the wifi stack or power-management18:43
trijntjebiggdadd73: that wont be a problem, if you replace windows with ubuntu it should be fine18:44
hitsujiTMO!ua | androiidd18:44
glass|2trijntje: i need to include software extra as double commander18:44
actionParsnipbiggdadd73: then when you come to partitioning, mark the NTFS partitions to be mounted at boot but NOT formatted, you can even set the mount points at install time. Any particular reason to use the server OS? It does not have a graphical desktop you know. It is pure command line18:44
androiiddyes18:44
hitsujiTMOandroiidd: #ubuntu-ua18:44
biggdadd73maybe I got my self confused when I started reading about partitions...18:44
trijntjebiggdadd73: what I would do is boot into the live system, start 'gparted', delete the windows partition, and then start the install. That way ubuntu will automatically be installed on the empty space18:44
androiiddhello18:44
ryorky1I keep getting the following error.  does anyone have any ideas how to resolve it?18:45
kieppieactionParsnip: brower history indicates this is probably the guide used, installed from "kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/": http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-11-8-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-pear-os-and-elementary-os/18:45
biggdadd73Oh thank you for the info.  I actually don't need a GUI18:45
ryorky1The following packages have unmet dependencies:18:45
ryorky1 apache2.2-common : Depends: apache2.2-bin (= 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4) but it is not going to be installed18:45
ryorky1E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.18:45
hitsujiTMOandroiidd: its english only in this support channel, for ukranian try: /join #ubuntu-ua18:45
actionParsnipbiggdadd73: I suggest you use the desktop OS. It has a nice GUI you can use. Just plan ahead and read the screen. I suggest you use the 'something else' option and set the same amount of RAM you have as swap and the rest as /18:45
actionParsnipkieppie: we cannot support those kernels here18:46
biggdadd73can i just use GParted CD?18:46
actionParsnipryorky1: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue18:46
androiiddthanks18:46
kieppieactionParsnip: btw - thanks for the pointer. installed stock generic kernel - will reboot & see how it goes18:46
kieppie(I suspect other things gonna get borked)18:46
actionParsnipbiggdadd73: if you want, there is a partitioner on the Ubuntu install CD so no real need18:46
ryorky1actionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l18:47
hitsujiTMOryorky1: please pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy apache2.2-bin18:48
actionParsnipryorky1: ^18:48
pancakes9hey, can someone explain how bind, readline, inputrc all work together?18:49
ryorky1actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/9VKXcHHG18:50
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ryorky1hitsujiTMO:  ^^18:50
actionParsnipryorky1: you are using a PPA, I suggest you report the issue to the PPA maintainer18:50
actionParsniphitsujiTMO: nice catch18:50
Bending_Spoonsok thanks everyone for your help18:52
ryorky1actionParsnip:  well, my issue here guys is that I misinstalled apache2.4 and I'm trying to reinstall apache 2.2 and php 5, but it is constantly throwing me errors18:52
pancakes9what is the readline init file?18:52
hitsujiTMO!ppa-purge | ryorky1 this is how you remove a ppa18:53
ubotturyorky1 this is how you remove a ppa: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html18:53
idanielHi, guys, I was looking on Amazon and found Panda 300mbps wireless-N Adapter w/wps button-802.11 n, 2.4 GHZ  for a good price. It says it works for Windows and Mac and Linux, Mint 14/15 Ubuntu 12.10/13.04 and Fedora 18/19/20. My question is do you think it will work for Ubuntu 12.04. Anybody know?18:54
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idanielThe Panda wireless has good reviews, some saying it works good with their Linux, but they didn't say which ones they had.18:55
oscargotquit18:55
hitsujiTMOidaniel: from the amazon page: NOT COMPATIBLE with any device that does not run an operating system specified above unless otherwise stated.            it's difficult to know for sure without knowing what wifi chipset it uses18:56
trijntjeto be fair though, they probably say that to cover their ass ;)18:56
trijntjeand not because they actually tested that it doesn't work with anything else18:57
idanielhummm  kinda tricky I guess. There is Rosewell that some people say works good with Ubuntu 12.04 but one person didn't like it. Do you know of any good wireless adapter for Ubuntu 12.04 that can stream movies?18:57
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: yes but i suspects its depends on the kernel. guessing 3.5 minimum.18:58
hitsujiTMOidaniel: do you have one atm that isn't streaming propperly?18:59
trijntjehitsujiTMO: that I don't know, I'm not big on tracking kernel versions ;) I do know that its hard to find a proper wireless. I eventually got mine to work with ndiswrapper19:00
idanielNo, I just cleaned installed a Ubuntu 12.04 to a desktop and need a wireless adapter that will work about 15 feet away.19:00
idanielfrom router19:00
TJ-idaniel: can you link us to the amazon listing?19:01
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trijntjeidaniel: thats only 5 meter right? I think every dongle supports such short distance, so that shouldn't matter19:01
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hitsujiTMOtrijntje: there tends to be issues at the 3.2 mark. changes to the source structure after that means a lot of modules from before that fail to build on later kernels without some minor modifications.19:02
idanielhttp://www.amazon.com/Panda-300Mbps-Wireless-N-Adapter-button/dp/B00EQT0YK2/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389725185&sr=1-1&keywords=Medialink+Panda+wireless+adapter19:03
idanieloh ya probably that distance and maybe a little more?19:03
hitsujiTMOtrijntje: i'd presume that the company is a bit lazy and don't write the driver to be compatible with the older kernels19:03
hitsujiTMOidaniel: whats the output of: uname -a19:04
idanielsorry  don't know linux very well yet. So what do you mean with  uname -a?19:05
hitsujiTMOidaniel: can you open the terminal and type: uname -a                     just paste the output here19:05
idanielwell, this is not the computer I'm looking for an adapter for. It's at my daughter's house, sorry.19:06
idanielI can get that another time and get back on chat and ask again.19:06
TJ-idaniel: I'm downloading the drivers from the Panda web-site to check the exact chipset ID, it looks like an RT28xx19:07
hitsujiTMOidaniel: ahh. well if you're running a kernel >= 3.5 i'd expect it to work as thats the same kernel in 12.10 and 13.0419:07
idanielo.k. cool!19:07
idanielso, Ubuntu 12.04 is the same kernal as 12.10 and 13.04?19:07
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Julie_not from what I see on my installations19:08
hitsujiTMOidaniel: 12.04.2 has the same kernel as 12.10 and 12.04.3 has the same kernel as 13.0419:08
idanielOhhh yeah!  so the RT28xx chipset ID will work, right?19:09
TJ-idaniel: OK, it's an RT2870 based unit ... can't confirm the exact PCI id though19:09
Julie_in fact we have over 1000 that we needed to back down19:09
idanielohh    do you think it will work ?19:09
idanielSoooo  12.04.2     is that the updated version for right now?19:11
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hitsujiTMOidaniel: how long ago was the system installed?19:11
TJ-idaniel: This seems positive and shows a photo of the device you are investigating (PAU05)  http://www.pandawireless.com/19:12
idanielumm probably over a month, maybe two.   o.k.  cool19:12
idanielYou guys have  been really helpful! This seems positive, so maybe I'll give that wireless adapter a try.19:14
idanielI'm excited about it.19:14
hitsujiTMOidaniel: then i suspect it'd be on 12.04.3 then. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146878 shows it is working with some minor playing around19:14
idanielminor playing around means what?19:14
hitsujiTMOidaniel: changing a setting to disable ipv619:15
ryorky1I'm trying to run this:  ryorky1@ryorky1:~$ sudo apt-get install apache2=2.2.20-1ubuntu1, but I keep getting the following error: E: Version '2.2.20-1ubuntu1' for 'apache2' was not found19:15
ryorky1any ideas?19:15
idanielo.k. not knowing linux very well, I would have to know how to do that. please19:15
ryorky1hitsujiTMO:  ^^19:15
hitsujiTMOidaniel: its in the article i linked. you could also come back here when installing it if there's any trouble and someone would be able to talk you thru how to fix19:16
idanielor is that info on that site?19:16
hitsujiTMOidaniel: just look at the last post19:16
idanielo.k. sure, thank you very much! you all have been very helful! I will look at that. Bye19:17
hitsujiTMOryorky1: pastebin: apt-cache show apache219:17
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Guest10478so which ensures better formating for Microsoft Office files, LibreOffice or Microsoft Office on wine?19:26
andresmhI am running Ubuntu 13.10 in a VM and I want it to be as lightweight as possible. What are some things I could disable? I mostly want to use it from the command line, but sometimes I might need to do some stuff that require graphics.19:27
hitsujiTMOGuest10478: kingsoft office http://wps-community.org/19:27
Jordan_UGuest10478: I would assume MS Office in wine.19:27
Guest10478andresmh: just install Lubuntu19:27
andresmhwell, i already installed Ubuntu, can't i make Ubuntu be more like Lubuntu by simply disabling stuff?19:27
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Guest10478Jordan_U: okay i hope nothing changes in the files19:28
Guest10478andresmh: maybe change the Unity DE to something like LXDE or openbox19:28
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trijntjeGuest10478: what are you trying to do with those files? Best way to ensure formatting is just exporting them to pdf19:29
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Guest10478trijntje: i have to print out contracts and stuff that are .docx19:29
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Guest10478also i have excel files that need the proper formating19:30
glda19can some help me to set up a network on my raspberry pi with  a static ip for eth0 and19:31
bonsuhow do i install thing in ubutnu19:32
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ubottubonsu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:33
bonsui have download a flash player from the net and use the command tar xvf file_name19:34
trijntjebonsu: use the software  center, the shopping bag icon on the left bar19:34
trijntjebonsu: in ubuntu, you don't have to download software from the internet yourself19:34
bonsuyeah but the adobe flash player has beengiving me some problem19:34
bonsui cant access the setting panel so i have to install one from their website19:35
trijntjebonsu: what problems have you been having with flash?19:35
bonsuthe setting panel cant be click19:36
kieppieactionPasnip: howdy - I recall now why I run this kernel (from official Ubuntu PPA). My graphics card uses the "hybrid graphics", so without this more current kernel, power-management is totally FUBAR19:37
bonsuso i cant use webcam or mic on browser19:37
balrog-k2nhi, does anyone else have terrible resume times on thinkpad x1 carbon?19:37
balrog-k2n3-10 seconds19:37
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trijntjebonsu: what settings panel?.19:38
balrog-k2ni don't find anyone else complaining about this on google19:38
bonsuon a stream video right click setting19:38
balrog-k2nwhat about on other thinkpads, are your resume times good? (<0.5s)19:39
trijntjebonsu: try this http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager08.html19:39
bonsui have tried that too , but looking around i have found that this happen if you have hardware acceleration enable19:41
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glda19how can help me with my network on raspberry pi19:44
bekksglda19: Is you rasp pi running Ubuntu?19:44
DJonesglda19: I wasn't aware that Ubuntu had been ported to the Pi yet19:45
guest1234So when I'm in my X session, something (gnome-keyring?) saves my local ssh passphrase after I type it once.  I'm now ssh'ed into that machine, and all my ssh-based operations (git, etc) prompt for it every time.  Any moderately secure way around it?19:46
trijntjeglda19: try #raspberrypi19:47
T4bguest1234: To avoid typing ssh passwords use public/private key auth and ssh-agent19:47
guest1234T4b: I can ssh across the machines without passwords, those are set up. It's prompting me for the machine's local id_dsa passphrase.19:48
elijahDoes anyone know of an app for Ubuntu that will show my current touchpoints? Kinda like in Android dev mode (show touches)19:48
T4bguest1234: If I got it right ssh-agent should still be able to save that password after you type it the first time in a session or timeframe. Take a look at it19:49
glda19who can i whitch connection ineternet use19:50
floorpiwhere is the trash located (ubuntu 13.10)? i seem to have a permission problem or directory is missing19:51
blzHello.  My root partition is sitting in an LVM spanning two physical disks.  I'd like to move to to a RAID1 group spanning two *different* disks (the RAID group is not yet created).  Is this possible? If so, how should I proceed?19:51
hitsujiTMOfloorpi: ~/.local/share/Trash19:52
bekksblz: Mount a livecd, create the raid, copy everything, configure yur system to boot off the raid.19:53
glda19how can i see which of the two eth0 or wlan0 to make the connection to internet19:53
CarlFKVLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower (revision 2.0.8a-0-g68cf50b) ...  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `dv  '.   Is there a PPA or some package I can install that will fix this?19:53
blzbekks, ok cool.  When you say "Copy everything", will a simple `cd -R` suffice?  Also, I have a separate /boot partition ... how should I handle that?19:54
CarlFKglda19: try route -n19:54
bekksblz: cd -R is invalid, and I would just use rsync -av19:54
blzbekks, derp. cp -R19:54
blzbekks, but okay, rsync it is19:54
bekksblz: and exclude unnecessary things like /sys /procs etc.etc.etc.19:54
CarlFKglda19: the line with a gateway is likely what you are looking for19:55
blzbekks, wait, will rsync -av ignore those for me, or do I need to intervene?19:55
bekksblz: you need to tell rsync to ignore specific things.19:55
opticsAnyone else having problems with dropbox just stop working recently?19:55
blzbekks, okay so /sys /procs ... anything else?19:56
glda19carlfk did you now something about raspberry pi19:56
blzoptics, yeah it asks me for a root password at login19:56
blzoptics, as of a week ago19:56
opticsahh19:56
blzoptics, annoying as hell, really19:56
CarlFKglda19: more than average I suppose.  why do you ask?19:56
opticsthanks blz19:56
bekksblz: almost everything from /dev, /var/run, and a couple more, if you dont need it.19:56
blzoptics, np =)19:56
bekks!backup | blz19:56
ubottublz: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning19:57
blzbekks, great, thanks =)19:57
CarlFKblz: man rsync..         -x, --one-file-system       don't cross filesystem boundaries19:57
blzCarlFK, wonderful, thanks!19:58
CarlFKblz: that will avoid all the /proc and such, but if /home is on it's own filesystem, then it will skip it too.19:58
blzCarlFK, ok that's perfect19:58
blzbekks, one last question (sorry to nag!) -- what should I do about the /boot partition I currently have?  Should I rsync it to both drives in the RAID1 volume?19:59
blzor install the bootloader to both drives?19:59
blzor something else?19:59
TimvdeHi. I'd like to create my own custom keyboard layout, starting from azerty/be. I added this to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/be: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6752245/ and added it to the right files in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules. I think I did that part right, as it shows up correctly at the keyboard layout settings. But the preview shows normal azerty and when starting X, I get an xkb error.19:59
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bekksblz: I'd create a separate boot mirror AND install grub to the boot record of both physical drives holding the boot mirror and the root mirror20:00
blzbekks, and I can do this with rsync as well, I imagine?20:00
blzor is dd better for /boot?20:00
bekksblz: dd works below the filesystem, while /boot is a filesystem. Just use rsync.20:01
blzok, rsync it is.  Thanks much bekks!20:01
yaccAny idea when an upstream bugfix (Intel video drivers) makes it into Ubuntu? (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68410)20:04
ubottuFreedesktop bug 68410 in Driver/intel "[bisected ivb] Small black box corruption in firefox" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme]20:04
rdzHi all. A while ago I was able to change the display resolution through nvidia-settings, and now I can't change the default resolution. there is simply no other option anymore.. is there a way to force a lower resolution than the native res of the laptop?20:05
puellstudie201420:08
puesry20:08
Rock2010#vpn20:11
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djcrazyjimmydjcrazyjimmy20:13
FireBeyondDuring install, there's an option about 'no automatic updates', versus 'install security updates automatically'. If I installed with no updates, how do I change to install automatically at the console?20:14
bekksFireBeyond: In the update manager.20:15
FireBeyondbekks: I have no GUI installed20:15
dschatzbergHi All, I have an encrypted home directory and when I ssh into my machine it does not automatically mount my home directory20:22
jogrdschatzberg: It works for me... So I suppose it should work. Did you manually umount?20:24
dschatzbergjogr: I was having issues sshing with X forwarding, I thought it was a permissions issue and modified the permissions of my home directory, could this have affected it?20:25
Rorydschatzberg: This is what you have to do: SSH into it, do not attempt to unencrypt your directory. Edit your ~/.profile file (create it if it doesn't exist) and put the line "ecryptfs-mount-private" without the quotes at the end20:25
Rorydschatzberg: You can edit with nano - ctrl-O to save, and ctrl-X to quit20:26
dschatzbergRory: doesn't this require me to type in my password again?20:26
Rorydschatzberg: It will, yes20:26
Rorydschatzberg: Even if you are using ssh key authentication20:27
dschatzbergRory: I do not want that, I want the ssh authentication to be sufficient,  that should be possible20:27
Rorydschatzberg: If you want to somehow work around that, I'll look for you, but why have an encrypted home directory if you can log in unencrypted without a password? Just remember anything in ~/.profile gets executed on login, even with ssh20:28
andrea86Can't get my monitor to display it's native resolution by VGA from laptop connection :( Any help? I've added the mode via randr (1920x1200 60Hz)20:28
andrea86Can't get my monitor to display it's native resolution by VGA from laptop connection :( Any help? I've added the mode via randr (1920x1200 60Hz), but the image is squashed and has black bars on the sides :(20:28
dschatzbergRory: I log in using ssh authentication (either password or key) therefore there is sufficient authentication to mount my encrypted home directory20:29
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Rorydschatzberg: OK but consider if your password or ssh key was intercepted or keylogged or something, your encryption would be useless, as somebody could authenticate from anywhere20:31
jogrRory, dschatzberg: I tried to install ssh key auth on my remote machine. To get it to work I umounted the ecryptfs. I remounted it once and since I am able to use password auth and it will mount ecryptfs without a password, as it used to. I guess key auth an d ecryptfs is not compatible.20:31
dschatzbergRory: Thats the case with all forms of encryption20:32
rwwthat would make sense, since your .ssh/authorized_keys is inside the crypto container, which needs a passphrase to get the key to unlock...20:32
sorsany idea why alsamixer doesn't show the usb soundcard20:32
dschatzbergyou can place authorized_keys elsewhere and tell sshd to look for it20:33
dschatzbergand I have done that20:33
dschatzbergso I can ssh in with a private key20:33
LosaltHowdy all =)20:33
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DomaldelAny of you got a few min to help out a newbie with something?20:34
jogrdschatzberg: that is what I tried, I could not get it to work ans was glad I could reverse the situation. Must add I use a VPN so password auth is fine for me.20:34
Rorydschatzberg: No, because if they got your ssh key (easy) but didn't know your password (reasonable) then they'd still be stuck20:34
Rory!ask | Domaldel20:35
ubottuDomaldel: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:35
dschatzbergRory: How is getting my ssh key easy?20:35
DomaldelWell, I was hoping for someone with time to go one on one in pm for this.20:35
Domaldel!patience20:35
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/20:35
DomaldelI prefer that to open channels anyway.20:36
Rory!pm | Domaldel sorry for the bot-spam :P20:36
ubottuDomaldel sorry for the bot-spam :P: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:36
cdunn700hello can anyone help me in removing all my old versions of wine?20:36
DomaldelI know.20:36
DomaldelPoint is I *still* would like to do it in pm if someone is willing.20:37
Domaldel;-)20:37
RoryDomaldel: Depending on your client, you can remove all the people joining and leaving. Google for "remove join part messages <client>" and you will find something useful20:37
DomaldelYes, but that's irrelevant.20:37
cdunn700hello can anyone help me in removing all my old versions of wine?20:38
DomaldelI'd like to talk to *one* person only at a time without others hearing what I say or talking to me in the same place, that is in a pm.20:38
DomaldelI heard that this was a good place to get help with ubuntu.20:38
cdunn700its not tbh20:38
idanielhi, again. I have another question. What if I had one desktop with a wireless adapter that has clean install Ubuntu 12.04. I want to connect a second desktop to it with an ethernet cord, so that the second one can have internet connection without a wireless adapter. Is that possible?20:38
MrJeromeTJ- I tried installing on 2 different hard drives, one was SSD, the other mechanical, and I still get the slow shutdown issue. On the mechanical I'm getting the message "mount: / is busy" and then it hangs for several minutes20:38
FourFireHello20:38
cdunn700hello can anyone help me in removing all my old versions of wine?20:38
DJones!repeat | cdunn70020:39
ubottucdunn700: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:39
cdunn700both useless20:39
FourFireI accidentally removed a partition on a storage device, so that it's volume is "unallocated"20:39
FourFireI did this using gparted20:40
FourFireis there some way to revert that?20:40
hitsujiTMO!ics | idaniel20:40
ubottuidaniel: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing20:40
FourFirethe filesystem was NTFS20:40
idanielalrighty    thanks for the site info20:40
FourFireI have a utility called "TestDisk6.13" up right now20:41
FourFirebut I have no idea how to use it20:41
FourFireThe data I have on this device is rather important to me20:41
jhutchinsDomaldel: We all have our areas of speciaty, being just fellow users at various stages of experience.  Without knowing what you're trying to do, how can we know who should help you?  Group collaboration means you get a broader range of knowledge, and it also means that our contribution goes out to the whole channel to learn from rather than just one person.20:41
FourFireCan someone help me rescure it please?20:41
jhutchinsDomaldel: If you're doing something nefarious that shouldn't be public, irc is the wrong place to be anyway.20:41
hitsujiTMOFourFire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery  http://askubuntu.com/questions/171163/how-to-recover-a-deleted-ntfs-partition-with-data20:41
glda19they told me that the interface file can only have one gateway but how can i do that with i wil connect some times on wlan0 and eth020:41
jogrFourFire: You want the original data back? I don't think that is possible. But I'm no expert20:41
FejtiCan somebody tell me, how can I change the ath9k_htc driver, for something else that can handle an USB wi-fi stick (TP-Link TL-WN722N)?20:42
FourFirethanks for threads20:42
FourFireJogr the TestDisk utility could detect a filesystem there20:42
DomaldelIt's not, but I'm a newbie and probably won't get this done quickly anyway.20:42
FourFireand i haven't done anything else with it20:42
DomaldelAlso I simply don't like talking in a channel with more then 10-20 people.20:42
hitsujiTMOFourFire: if you know the start and end sectors you could write the entries back into the partition table with fdisk/cfdisk or gdisk/cgdisk20:43
jhutchinsglda19: Not quite correct.  There is only one default gateway, but other gateways can exist per subnet.20:43
DomaldelSo, either someone is willing to help me or I'll just formate the whole partition and start over, I'm not going to use this whole channel.20:43
jogrhitsujiTMO: Fourfire: Cool, I learned something today!20:43
DomaldelAnd I'm a stubborn guy ;-)20:44
jhutchinsglda19: Are you not using DHCP for your wifi?20:44
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DomaldelBecause part of the problem is that I don't even know what to ask exactly.20:45
DomaldelAnd I'm going to need help with even figuring *that* out.20:45
FourFireI'm scared of doing anything unless I know it will work20:45
FourFireI should have backed up this data20:45
glda19jhutchins, can you go privted20:45
jhutchinsglda19: SOrry, multitasking too many things already.  See my comments to Domaldel above.20:46
DomaldelThanks all, just got a pm from jogr, we'll give it a go =)20:47
hitsujiTMOFourFire: ddrescue/dd should allow you to image the drive and you could work from the image20:48
Jordan_UFourFire: GParted has a partition recovery option which I expect will work, but yes you definitely should have backed up the data first. How large is this partition? I expect a 95% or better chance of GParted's recovery working perfectly, so how you procede from here depends somewhat on how important the data really is to you, and how much space you have available on another drive (to for example make a backup image before trying ...20:48
RixiMis there a huge downside to writing a ext4 fs to md0 directly without using LVM?20:49
Jordan_U... any modification of the partition table).20:49
FourFireJordan_U, it's 244 MB20:49
FourFireand it is quite important to me20:50
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Jordan_UFourFire: How big is the drive? Is there currently a partition ending immediately before the "free space" and another beginnind immediately after it? If so, we can make an image of that unallocated space fairly easily.20:51
FourFireno, that's the whole drive20:51
FourFire244MB20:51
FourFireit was one partition20:51
Jordan_UFourFire: Ahh, then definitely make a full disk image first, since it should be easy. I assume this is a flash drive?20:52
hitsujiTMOFourFire: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l20:52
FourFirehow do I use Gparted's recue function?20:52
FourFireyes20:52
hitsujiTMOFourFire: is it a usb?20:52
hitsujiTMOwait you answered that already :P20:53
FourFirenope, SDcard20:53
QTmexjucy#kubuntu-se20:54
hitsujiTMOFourFire: if it was a single partition then it should be easy enough to fix. just gotta image the card first.20:54
FourFirehmm, how do I do that?20:54
hitsujiTMOFourFire: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l20:54
apb1963What am I doing wrong here?  sudo apt-add-repository ppa: deb http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports20:55
FourFireit says invalid option20:55
hitsujiTMOFourFire: thats a lowercase "L" not a number 1 right?20:55
FourFireah, sorry20:56
FourFirehitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/NgwT7JCq20:56
michagogo|cloudapb1963: you want `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`20:57
hitsujiTMOFourFire: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/usb.img20:57
michagogo|cloudapb1963: "deb http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports" is a line for your sources file20:58
FourFirewhatever just crashed Xchat20:59
apb1963michagogo|cloud: ty20:59
michagogo|cloudnp20:59
DomaldelAnd thanks to jogr the problem have been solved to the best of my knowledge =)21:00
DomaldelThanks all ^21:00
hitsujiTMOFourFire: odd. is it still running or has it finished?21:00
FourFireok hitsujiTMO  it's copied21:00
brontosaurusrex~21:00
FourFirewhere do I find it?21:00
Jordan_UFourFire: In the file "usb.img" in your home directory.21:01
hitsujiTMOFourDollars: now. dd if=~/usb.img of=~/ntfs.img bs=1048576 seek=121:02
FourFiregreat21:02
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FourFirenow, how do I try to work on that file?21:02
apb1963michagogo|cloud:21:02
FourFireor is the file my backup incase I mess up the drive?21:02
apb1963sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports21:02
hitsujiTMOFourFire: now. dd if=~/usb.img of=~/ntfs.img bs=1048576 seek=121:02
apb1963Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/+archive/backports) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.21:02
michagogo|cloudapb1963: no21:03
michagogo|cloud22:57:28 <michagogo|cloud> apb1963: you want `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`21:03
FourFireok that copied21:03
apb1963apt-add right?  not add-apt?21:03
Jordan_UFourFire: If you're lucky, hitsujiTMO's command will create a file, ntfs.img, which contains just the data that was in the partition you deleted, and which you should be able to loop mount with "sudo mount -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt/"21:03
michagogo|cloudapb1963: .....no21:04
hitsujiTMOFourFire: sudo mount -t ntfs -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt21:04
michagogo|cloudjust copy that exact command21:04
michagogo|cloudsudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports21:04
tjbiddleHey guys - I've created a .deb package, signed it with my gpg key, and configured reprepro to use the key. But when I go to install it through apt-get on another machine, it's saying the package can't be authenticated. Did I miss something?21:04
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michagogo|cloudtjbiddle: Did you import the key on the other machine?21:04
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: ahh you beat me to it :P21:04
Piciapb1963, michagogo|cloud: both add-apt-repository and apt-add-repository should work (in newer releases at least)21:05
tjbiddlemichagogo|cloud: I exported the public key, and then did apt-key add file_containing_key_contents on the machine I'm trying to install the package, yes21:05
michagogo|cloudPici: Okay, wasn't aware21:05
tjbiddleAnd it shows up when I do apt-key list21:05
FourFireNTFS signature is missing.21:05
FourFireFailed to mount '/dev/loop0': Invalid argument21:05
FourFireThe device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.21:05
FourFireMaybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a21:05
FourFirepartition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?21:05
FloodBot1FourFire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:05
hitsujiTMOFourFire: ok just try: sudo mount -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt21:05
apb1963michagogo|cloud: got it.... ty21:06
FourFiremount: block device /home/fourfire/ntfs.img is write-protected, mounting read-only21:07
FourFiremount: you must specify the filesystem type21:07
FourFirehmm21:07
idanielo.k. back again with a question about "ics"- internet connection sharing.  On that site someone gave me in the ubuntu communtiy about internet connection sharing, it says to go to tools and then to internet and then choose "wireless?" because I want to connect another computer to one main computer for internet. Then it says to create a new "Ad Hoc" network name. What does that mean? Let's say I have a certain network name. How will that21:07
idaniel connect with a different name? Kinda not getting it.21:07
Jordan_UhitsujiTMO: No harm this time, but in the future please give warnings about the possible dire consequences of typos in dd commands. Also, for something like this I'll often provide a command like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb > ~/usb.img" which nicely creates a file owned by the user rather than root and reduces the likelyhood of a typo causing disastrous results.21:07
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Jordan_UFourFire: OK, your original partition didn't start one sector in. That's fairly normal.21:08
hitsujiTMOJordan_U: sorry, you're right.21:08
FourFireoh right21:08
FourFireI think it started right off, because I moved it at some point21:08
FourFirebut there was one sector spare at the end21:09
merculivIs there a way to disable exit on libreoffice in ubuntu?21:09
Jordan_UFourFire: It can't start "right off" unless you have no partition table.21:09
Jordan_Umerculiv: What is your end goal?21:09
FourFireuhh21:09
FourFirehow do I try Gparted's recovery option?21:10
Jordan_UFourFire: Please pastebin the output of "file ~/usb.img"21:10
merculivJordan_U, Im trying to disable a program from closing in ubuntu21:10
hitsujiTMOFourFire: try reducing the blocksize to 512 so its 1 sector in then: dd ~/usb.img bs=512 seek=1 > ntfs.img21:10
FourFirethere's no such file or directory21:10
idanielSo, one computer will have wireless and the second computer hooked up via ethernet cord. Ummm just not getting those instructions about making a new network name for both to share.21:10
FourFireI see the file21:11
FourFireit's here21:11
TJ-FourFire: hitsujiTMO A better way: " sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 /mnt && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 6321:11
Jordan_Umerculiv: That's not an end goal, that's one step toward an end goal. See: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal21:11
FourFire"/mnt: Is a directory"21:12
TJ-hitsujiTMO: FourFire You can change the losetup offset "-o" to 1048576 to represent starting sector 2048, too21:13
TJ-FourFire: My mistake, sorry!21:13
TJ-FourFire: hitsujiTMO A better way: " sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 /usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 6321:13
FourFirenow it's saying it's not a directory :/21:13
luc__hi all21:14
hitsujiTMOTJ-: FourFire: sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop021:14
luc__hi all21:14
Linnak_Hi, How can add keys for ubuntu repos?21:14
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Aha thanks! :)21:14
bobearhi, does anyone use sflphone for voip? i think there are some codecs missing21:14
* TJ- missed the squiggle!21:14
merculivJordan_U, I am trying to get the menu option in Libreoffice for exit disabled and I was wondering of there was a way to disable it  in Ubuntu21:14
hitsujiTMOLinnak_: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get update21:14
FourFireok that did something21:14
FourFirebecause it didn't return anything21:15
FourFirebut the $ has reappeared21:15
TJ-FourFire: If the "blkid" returns nothing about a file-system then you need to remove the loop using "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0"21:15
TJ-FourFire: OK, remove the loop lets try another offset21:15
Jordan_Umerculiv: Why do you want it disabled?21:15
TJ-FourFire: "sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 204821:15
Linnak_hitsujiTMO: Thankk you21:16
merculivJordan_U, I am using it on a web interface and dont want the program to close21:16
merculivJordan_U, I am using fernapp21:17
hitsujiTMOTJ: FourFire: hmm. i'm sure we could script this to automate the search21:17
TJ-FourFire: I'm asleep on the job, sorry, that was the same command. Do "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0"21:18
FourFireno responses from those last two commands21:18
TJ-FourFire: "sudo losetup -o 1048576 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 2048!!21:18
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Working on one now :)21:18
Jordan_UTJ-: Working on such a script when a very robust one already exists in the the form of both testdisk and diskpart (which can be used from GParted) doesn't make much sense. I can walk FourFire through using testdisk's deleted partition recovery option.21:19
FourFireplease do21:20
hitsujiTMOFourFire: one last check: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 && sudo losetup -o 512 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop021:20
thaniusHi, I'm trying to revert to open source ATI Radeon driver, but I dunno how?21:21
thaniusI've removed the proprietary driver but it defaults to some weird VESA shit21:21
FourFirestill no return21:21
TJ-FourFire: "sudo grep --byte-offset -oa 'NTFS    ' ~/usb.img"21:22
FourFire"51715:NTFS "21:22
Handlebar 21:23
DarkenvyWhere can I go for crashed HDD advice?21:24
Darkenvy(IRC channel)21:24
TJ-FourFire: "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 && sudo losetup -o 51712 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0"21:24
FourFire"/dev/loop0: UUID="2E41715D1600BA76" TYPE="ntfs""21:25
TJ-FourFire: Bingo :)21:25
hitsujiTMOWe have a winner21:25
FourFirethat looks like a success21:25
binniDoes anyone here have experience with running Ubuntu on the latest Mac Pro (black cylinder)? I assume everything wont work out of the box, but can everything be brought to work through additional configuring?21:25
FourFirenow, I just collect the files from there by nautilus?21:25
TJ-FourFire: The trick was to find the NTFS file-system ID which is "NTFS    " (4 spaces after) and it is 3 bytes into the FS21:25
TJ-FourDollars: Now you can do "sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt" and then read the files from /mnt/21:26
TJ-FourFire: Now you can do "sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt" and then read the files from /mnt/21:26
qkzoo1978Is there a bash variant of apt-get that will allow me to browse available packages with descriptions?21:26
idanielSo, guys, about "ics".  My daughter uses three computers to do homeschool online. One computer is a Windows 7 desktop with a wireless adapter. The second one is a desktop that has been clean installed with ubuntu 12.04 and is hooked to the first windows computer with an ethernet cord. The last one is an older laptop with ubuntu 12.04 clean installed on it. The laptop connects to the router perfectly. BUT, the windows 7 desktop is trying21:26
idaniel to die, so my daughter wants to clean install Ubuntu 12.04 on it. So, now, back to "irc" connection with the second desktop that is connected with an ethernet cord. I don't get the instructions on the ubuntu site for irc connection about changing the "Ad Hoc" name. Change the network name? How can we do that? Will that change the laptop connection? I don't get it. So sorry here, don't get it.21:26
hitsujiTMO101 sectors in. thats a little odd21:27
FourFireThanks a heap TJ-, hitsujiTMO, and Jordan_U21:27
TJ-qkzoo1978: "apt-cache show <package>"  or "apt-cache search <keyword>" will help from the command line21:27
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Yeah; I'd never have thought to try that offset myself21:27
FourFireI don't believe in God, but I sure believe in Nerd Lords21:27
FourFirethey answer my prayers!21:27
TJ-FourFire: Just imagine how much agro we've gone through to have to learn how  to do this kind of thing!?21:28
FourFireI feel at the same time more motivated and less inclined to do the same21:28
TJ-FourFire: nothing like losing something just before you do the backup to focus the mind on it21:30
qkzoo1978TJ: Thanks, is there a stand-alone  tool you can think of as well?  I used one once, but now I cant find it.  It was a "visual" command line front end that easily allowed browsing and searching for packages.21:30
TJ-qkzoo1978: I think you are referring to "aptitude" ?21:30
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FourFireok, here's a problem21:31
FourFireI have two layers of /home directories21:31
hitsujiTMOqkzoo1978: software-center or synaptics maybe21:31
FourFireI think it's somehow related to the fact that I've replaced the physical hard drive in this machine21:31
qkzoo1978TJ: Could have been, thanks21:32
hitsujiTMOFourFire: what exactly do you mean by 2 layers?21:32
TJ-FourFire: I'm not entirely understanding what you mean by 'layers'21:32
qkzoo1978hitsujiTMO: command line only :)21:32
TJ-hitsujiTMO: glad that wasn't just me puzzled!21:32
FourFireI have root/home/Home/FourFire21:32
FourFireevery time when I reboot it asks me which external device to boot from and then I just select the "notebook hard drive"21:33
hitsujiTMOqkzoo1978: ahh just say visual21:33
FourFirebut the drive isn't external...21:33
* TJ- is lost now21:34
hitsujiTMOFourFire: cat /etc/passwd | grep Home21:34
FourFireno return21:34
bekksgrep -i home /etc/passwd21:34
FourFirehttp://pastebin.com/X4thqCxC21:35
WSP100helo21:36
FourFiremy /mnt folder is empty (at least the one in root)21:36
WSP100helo guis21:36
WSP100helo21:37
idanielI think it just means that for "ics", you just have to make sure the two sharing have the same network name and password, right? The third laptop not sharing should also have the same network name and password.21:37
apb1963Does anyone know how to update qt to a later version?21:37
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hitsujiTMOFourFire: I'd expect /home/Home is your old home dir and thats all21:37
idaniel... because it's all sharing one network.21:37
FourFireok21:38
bekksidaniel: the credentials are irrelevant for "ics".21:38
WSP100/help21:38
idanielwhat do you mean?21:38
FourFireso why is my /mnt directory empty, or am I looking at the wrong one?21:38
TJ-FourFire: Is this your way of saying you cannot see any files in that NTFS file-system?21:39
FourFireI can't see any folders inside root/mnt21:39
FourFireit's completely empty21:39
TJ-FourFire: Do you literally mean "/root/mnt/" or "/mnt/"  ?21:39
idanielbekks      it doesn't matter what network name? Will the router recognize it? Don't know too much about this stuff., sorry21:40
FourFirethe root of the path tree and then folder "mnt" is empty21:40
TJ-FourFire: OK... refer to that always as "/mnt/" then we're clear21:40
FourFireyes21:40
bekksidaniel: the network name is irrelevant, too, for the router.21:40
TJ-FourFire: lets check the "mount" operation worked: "mount | pastebinit"21:40
ice9how to apply secure boot in ubutu?21:41
FourFirehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6752775/21:41
TJ-ice9: Recent Ubuntu kernels and GRUB boot-loader have signed versions21:42
idanielhummm  so please explain. Soooo, I want my first computer hooked to the internet to share via ethernet cord to the second computer. These are computers that will both have Ubuntu 12.04. Ummm, so just the two that are sharing should have same name and password?21:42
ice9TJ-: in full desk encryption, the boot is still unencrypted right?21:43
TJ-FourFire: OK, the NTFS file-system is mounted so if you're not seeing anything that suggests the image is empty, or damaged, or all files are deleted21:43
TJ-ice9: It doesn't need to be; GRUB can use an encrypted /boot/ too21:43
ice9TJ-: I'm not talking about GRUB, but I'm addressing security in case of physical access by the attacker, if whole /boot is unencrypted then it's a serious problem21:44
TJ-FourFire: This "usb.img" file ... are you 100% sure it contains the area of the original device that contained the files you expect?21:44
FourFireit should21:44
FourFirethe device was more than half full21:44
TJ-FourFire: There was only 1 partition/file-system on the device?21:45
FourFireI'm not 100% sure on what all those commands did but the device was only 256 mb in size21:45
FourFireand showed up as 244MB of space21:45
TJ-FourFire: OK  so this usb.img file should be an image of everything21:45
FourFireyes21:45
idanielwhat does "create new AD Hoc network" mean?21:45
bruceleehow do i shutdown iptables in ubuntu?21:46
bruceleein centos, its just service iptables stop21:46
TJ-FourFire: Then I suggest using testdisk to find and rewrite the partition table using the loop device, and also use "photorec" on the file-system to see if it can find files.21:47
WSP100Helo21:47
TJ-FourFire: If you do "sudo umount /mnt/" to unmount the file-system21:47
WSP100Helo21:47
FourFireok21:47
TJ-FourFire: You can use "photorec  /dev/loop0" and see if it recognises file structures21:48
TJ-FourFire: photorec will not write to the device so you won't harm it.21:48
misdirecthi, how do i disable screen dimming when my laptop is plugged in. still i'd like it to dim when on battery? (ubuntu 13.10)21:48
FourFireUnable to open file or device /dev/loop021:48
jogridaniel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_ad_hoc_network It creates one...21:48
TJ-FourFire: Hmmm... need to prefix that with "sudo "21:49
TJ-FourFire: ... needs 'root' to open a /dev/21:49
FourFireok came into terminal program21:49
FourFire> proceed21:49
idanielHere is the site  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharin          O.K. I'll look on that site. Thanks jogr21:50
FourFireI'm chosing partition "P NTFS"21:50
TJ-FourFire: It's up to you know... it is pretty self-evident how to follow instructions. It'll want a path to somewhere to write any recovered files to... put that in your home directory or some other safe place with sufficient space21:50
FourFireok21:51
jogridaniel: Still trying to share the internet connection? Wikipedia won't be much help on that one.21:51
jogridaniel: do you have a working conenction between the two machines?21:52
FourFireoh wow21:53
FourFireit's recovering loads of files21:53
FourFireand i can read them AS they are being recovered21:53
TJ-FourFire: The downside is often they don't have the original names21:54
FourFireyeah21:54
FourFirethat's a lot of files21:54
FourFiremost of them text21:54
idanieloh  well, the one windows 7 desktop with the wireless adapter is going south. It connects to the internet, and hooked to it is an ethernet cord to another desktop with Ubuntu. But the one going south, we want to clean install Ubuntu on it and do the same, but I don't get the directions for doing that on that ubuntu site.21:54
FourFireI can't possibly recover the file system structure (folder tree) ?21:54
TJ-FourFire: It is reading every sector marked free which may contain old parts of files and creating a new file for each sector or chain of sectors it believes represent a single file21:54
FourFireso the file name should be just inside the file?21:55
TJ-FourFire: I wasn't watching when you described how you managed to kill it originally... if you'd only zapped the partition table I'd have expected the directory structure to be intact21:55
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jogridaniel: can they ping each other?21:55
TJ-FourFire: No, no names unfortunately. You'll have to examine each recovered data-file to see if it represents a complete valid original document based on your knowledge of what was there previously21:56
idanielwhat do you mean "ping" each other? Like I said, we still have to clean install Ubuntu to the windows 7 yet and get a working wireless adapter. But when we do, which could be soon, I would like to know how to do it.21:56
JazzBotanyone know a good channel for help on gpu?21:57
RoryJazzBot: Why don't you ask your real question (if it's related to ubuntu) or go to #ubuntu-offtopic21:57
JazzBotok sure, thanks.21:57
jogridaniel: sorry I misunderstood. You need directions to install ubuntu on a computer?21:57
Guest71910hey everyone check out an amazing star wars game called STAR WARS MUD!! go to swmud.org and check it out, just download a MUD program and connect to SWMUD.ORG port 666621:57
riqdiizSuperLag: she clicks everything that begs to be.21:57
Guest71910hey i have a question too21:58
FourFireTJ- well today I formatted a pendrive which I installed Trusty Tahr on21:58
Guest71910my laptop doesnt come back when i close the top21:58
riqdiizIn the net;-)21:58
JazzBotubuntu won't detect my nvidia 650m.. I installed bumblebee and nvidia driver however it still wont detect. when I type lspci -v I notice under my gpu it says ! ! ! Unknown header type 7f21:58
Guest71910stays black21:58
FourFireI also, apparently accidently formatted this device21:58
RoryGuest71910: Does it come back if you press a key or use the trackpad?21:58
Guest71910jazzbot ive dealt with that21:58
Guest71910no rory it doesnt21:58
RoryGuest71910: You can set a more friendly nickname with the "/nick" command - for example to change my name to Rory I typed "/nick Rory" (without the quotes)21:58
jogridaniel: No i'm really dense today. Sorry. You want to know whether you can share a connectio AFTER you install ubuntu.21:58
Guest71910l21:58
Guest71910hmm21:59
Guest71910not workin21:59
JazzBotok, what do you suggest?21:59
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TJ-FourFire: Ahhh, the formatting would explain it. That would erase many of the NTFS directory entries21:59
TRENTONits me jazz21:59
FourFirecrap21:59
JazzBoti noticed :p21:59
TRENTONits all about the x server21:59
idanielno   I know how to do that. O.k.  here it is. One desktop will get a clean install of ubuntu and a new wireless adapter. It will hook to another desktop that doesn't have wireless via an ethernet cord. So, yes, I want to know how to set that up. Both desktops will have Ubuntu on them.21:59
JazzBoti wondered..21:59
TRENTONyou need to fiddle with your x script21:59
FourFirebecause there's a lot of text files21:59
FourFireand the files I need are .txt21:59
TRENTONwhat i do is go online search up some x file scripts people with your card have used22:00
FourFirethere's like 150+ MB of .txts22:00
TRENTONthey will most likely not work lol22:00
TRENTONso you just gotta mess with them til they work22:00
JazzBotok thanks22:00
TRENTONhonestly22:00
TRENTONsometimes22:00
idanielI mean the second desktop will share the internet with the first one via the ethernet cord.22:00
FourFirethat's like 50 million words of text22:00
Pici!enter22:00
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:00
Pici!who22:00
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)22:00
TRENTONi find a few scripts online and if i used 2- 3 together most the time that will make it work, for some wierd reason22:01
jogridaniel: link over an ethernet cable should work with static IP's, you can test this with a live bootdisk22:01
newb30Hey guys, my usb keyboard and mouse aren't working when I get to the decrypt hardrive login screen for Lubuntu. The keyboard worked in grub though. What do I do?22:01
JazzBothm22:01
FourFireTJ- is the file structure irreprrably gone?22:02
idanielo.k. so you're saying that I can test it with a live Ubuntu disk?   I am so dumb with computers. What do you mean "static IP"?22:02
hitsujiTMOFourFire: if the partition not loading correctly?22:02
FourFireif there's some hope of regaining it, it would save me a lot of work22:02
TJ-FourFire: Yes, its gone22:02
TRENTONcan someone please help me with my problem, every time I close my laptop it goes to sleep, but it does not come back from sleep EVER no matter what, press buttons, move mouse, everything, but the power light is on and it seems recovered just screen is black. its a lenovo thinkpad anyone have any ideas for me on this22:02
FourFirehitsujiTMO, got the files on my main drive now22:02
FourFireok well I guess I have to pay for my mistake of not paying 100% attention to which drive i was formatting22:03
FourFireat least I have the data... somewhere22:03
FourFireThanks for your help again guys!22:03
jogridaniel: there will be no dhcp server (unless you install one) so it is easiest to select 2 static ip address for these machines. A static IP is a fixed ip as most servers use. DHCP assigns dynamic IP addresses22:04
TRENTONle sigh22:04
EuclidisGreetings..22:04
FourFirewhat filesystem should I use on this new drive I have?22:04
TRENTONyo22:04
FourFireit's <1GB flash22:05
TRENTONomg fourfire put all your messages in one box22:05
TRENTONyour flooding22:05
EuclidisFourFire: fat3222:05
FourFirethanks22:05
jogrTRENTON: suspend and resume can be hell, no easy fixes. Try google for you specific distro and laptop.22:05
TRENTONyes i noticed, its some wierd back process thanks jogr22:05
TJ-FourFire: Also, the extensions photorec assigns to the recovered files, are an indication of their contents only... very often TXT is a cover-all. What I usually do, once photorec has completed is 'for f in recupdir*; do echo "$f $(file $f)"; done > tee /tmp/file-types.log'  which will better classify the contents and allow me to intelligently create symlinks from another "./recovery/" directory to each recovered file22:05
idanielso, in baby words, hahaha so sorry...  ummm if they are compatable now with their ip addresses, they will be when I clean install the windows one. right?22:06
FourFireTJ- what does that mean?22:06
FourFireall or most of the files were initially .txt22:06
TJ-FourFire: It means you've got a lot to do yet to recover complete files, depending on what their contents were!22:06
FourFireI like .txt, it's simple22:06
FourFirethe important files were all .txt22:07
jogridaniel: yes. If you manage a link now (and this should be possible as well) you can do the same in ubuntu22:07
Ben64FourFire: the chance of recovering text files is very low22:07
FourFireso they shouldn't be broken unless they were spanning the wrong  two sectors right?22:07
FourFireBen64, what do you mean?22:07
idanielwindows is sharing with the ubuntu, windows being the host. Windows will get cleaned installed with ubuntu soon.22:07
EuclidisIs KDE 4.12 using kwin?22:08
TJ-FourFire: Good luck; its a heck of a job sorting through them to identify the latest versions of the original files... you'll often have multiple copies of the same file representing each time the file was saved with newer content in it22:08
FourFireI have checked and read three of the files so far22:08
FourFirecrap, really?22:08
Ben64FourFire: it won't know where to attach the text usually, so you'll end up with a billion different text segments22:08
FourFire...22:08
TJ-FourFire: Yes... so don't assume the first one you recognise is the latest22:08
FourFirethat's a lot more text22:08
FourFirehow to fix it??22:08
hitsujiTMOFourFire: text files have no "signature". Heuristic scans look for specific signatires that apply to filetypes to determine what they are. plain text files have no signatures22:08
Euclidis!kwin22:09
idanielO.K. jogr.... so if I have trouble later after having done the clean install of the windows to ubuntu who will be the host, I will ask later here. Thanks for your time!22:09
TJ-FourFire: The best way to recover is to use "grep -rn $SEARCHPHRASE recupdir*/*" to search those directories for text you will recognise22:09
jogridaniel: so remains the link to internet. That will involve routing, I not really good in that... Good kuck!22:09
idanielk   thanks again22:09
newb30Can somebody help me with my keyboard problem? It works in grub, but both my usb keyboard and usb mouse stop functioning when I get to the decrypt harddrive login screen. This is a fresh install of LUbuntu 13.10.22:10
jogrno problem22:10
FourFireok, that's good22:10
FourFireI can just use the search function in nautilus too right?22:10
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FourFireI can identify the latest version myself if I have all copies22:10
TJ-FourFire: You could but its not going to be very handy over the number of files you have to process!22:10
FourFireI only *need* around 10 of them to be easily sorted22:11
TJ-FourFire: grep will be stunningly fast, especially when most files are in the kernel block cache22:11
FourFirethe rest are fine in disordered22:11
newb30...help?22:12
Euclidisnewb30: Go on..22:12
Jordan_UFourFire: Just came back and read scrollback. Earlier you said that you had only "deleted" the partition in GParted and left it "Unallocated", if that's really all you did we should be able to recover everything, directory structure and all (we should be able to mount the ntfs filesystem).22:12
FourFireuhh22:13
FourFiredo we need the card or just the copy we made of it?22:13
Jordan_UFourFire: Just the copy.22:13
newb30my usb keyboard and mouse stop working when i get to the decrypt harddrive screen.22:13
* FourFire *audibly sighs22:13
newb30but the keyboard works in grub22:13
FourFireGreat22:13
FourFireLet's do this!22:13
TJ-newb30: When the system starts and grub is loaded the motherboard firmware/BIOS provides USB drivers. when Grub loads Linux the linux drivers for USB and the keyboard will be needed in the initial RAM disk image (initrd.img)... you'll need to sort that out22:14
TJ-newb30: Are the USB keyboard and mouse connected directly to the PC's USB ports, or via an external hub?22:15
Jordan_UFourFire: Right now, for added safety, run "cp ~/usb.img ~/Desktop/original_sd_card_image_copy_before_messing_with.img" and as the file name says, don't do any work on the image that will be on your Desktop.22:15
EuclidisWtf...22:15
newb30they are directly connected22:15
newb30the keyboard has an internal hub, i think22:16
FourFireJordan_U, done22:16
TJ-Jordan_U: as a precaution the image was unmounted so as long as FourFire doesn't format /dev/loop0 ... :p22:16
EuclidisG.F.Y. I.N.H and I ani't found it...22:16
Euclidisain't22:16
TJ-newb30: Is it a laptop or desktop PC? what exact make/model ?22:16
newb30PC, err, it's custom built22:17
Jordan_UFourFire: cp ~/usb.img ~/testdisk_test.img22:17
TJ-newb30: OK ... motherboard make/model then? (I want to research whether Linux USB drivers should work out of the box)22:18
merculivJordan_U, I found it in the options of the program under customize menus.  Thanks for your heko anyways...22:18
merculivhelp*22:19
newb30TJ: MSI 970A-G4622:19
Jordan_UFourFire: Then we'll try to roughly follow the deleted partition part of http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step on the image.22:19
bnasonCan anyone help me with LVM? I'm attempting to add space to my vm. I've added it in vmware, and the ubuntu livecd sees the size fine. But I don't know how to get LVM to expand to fill it. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5d3c21d1f7b638ae576122:19
Ben64Jordan_U: might be unnecessary22:19
FourFireok22:19
Jordan_UBen64: Why?22:19
Jordan_UFourFire: testdisk ~/testdisk_test.img22:20
Ben64Jordan_U: oh, i thought you were talking about a different procedure. I was thinking of doing the same thing, but with parted. didn't know testdisk did that too22:20
FourFirewhich partition do I choose?22:21
FourFireI tried this before I entered the channel, that time I used "nonpartitioned"22:21
Jordan_UFourFire: "Intel"22:22
FourFireok22:22
TJ-newb30: Crickey - 8 USB controllers! USB 1.1, USB2, and USB3 ...which type of port is the keyboard plugged into? Have you already tested it in alternative ports?22:23
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Jordan_UFourFire: Then "Analyse".22:23
FourFireyep22:24
Jordan_UFourFire: Then "Quick Search" and you should hopefully see your ntfs partition.22:24
FourFire"Should TestDisk search for partition created under Vista or later ? [Y/N]"22:24
FourFireI think Y22:25
FourFirethere's nothing there...22:25
newb30TJ: they aren't labelled, but I think they are usb 3.0, the ones in the back. I haven't changed them yet, no.22:25
Jordan_UFourFire: Try the "Deeper Search" option.22:25
TJ-newb30: I'd bet that'll solve it for you... try USB2 ports... keyboards are only USB1.1 anyhow so its a waste of a USB3 port22:26
FourFire"No partition found or selected for recovery"22:26
newb30TJ: Well, they are working right now on the livecd though22:26
TJ-newb30: Yes, because when the liveCD boots it loads more drivers22:27
Jordan_UFourFire: That suggests that you actually did more than just delete the partition in GParted and leave the space unallocated.22:27
FourFireyeah, it does22:27
TJ-newb30: but when you use disk encryption the password prompt is done from the initrd, which only has a limited set of drivers installed22:27
FourFireI should try salvaging the data I have recovered22:28
Ben64FourFire: try sudo parted ~/testdisk_test.img22:28
Ben64see if the "recover" option finds anything22:28
newb30TJ: OK, that makes sense. I will try that out. thanks!22:28
Ben64FourFire: sorry, the command is "rescue" not recover22:29
Jordan_UBen64: FourFire: No need for sudo since the file it's just a file readable by your user.22:30
buklemickbukMy internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection, can someone please assist me through this, i have been having this problem for quite a while now.22:30
FourFirewhat was the star number again?22:30
FourFirestart*22:30
Ben64will be 022:30
FourFireand end?22:30
Kane_HartWhen installing Lamp by default idk if it's mysql or apache it seems that my site bottle necks really easy. For example if I send a link to members of our Minecraft server and 15-20 hit the site at the sametime the site bottlenecks. This is on really good performance hardware and the CPU does not seem to be touched nor the IO22:31
Kane_HartI'm having a feeling their might be a max script thing or sql or something like that capping out by default.22:31
FourFire"Information: A ntfs primary partition was found at 51.7kB -> 256MB.  Do you want to add it to the partition table?22:32
FourFireYes/No/Cancel? Y"22:32
ikoniaKane_Hart: is this hosted on a home machine, or a machine in a data center22:32
Kane_HartDC dedicated22:32
ikoniaKane_Hart: what application are you running on apache/mysql22:32
Kane_HartIPB (forum)22:32
FourFireso I said yes and it did something22:33
buklemickbukMy internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection, can someone please assist me through this, i have been having this problem for quite a while now.22:33
FourFireshould I try to read the file as a disk now?22:33
Ben64FourFire: now type "p" and see if the partition shows up22:33
ikoniaKane_Hart: 15/20 users should not be a blink of an eye22:33
Kane_HartExactly.22:33
FourFire"Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags 1      51.7kB  256MB  256MB  primary  ntfs"22:33
Kane_HartI can run a Minecraft server with 200+ people without any issues on the same box. But some reason something is limiting22:33
Ben64FourFire: looks very good...22:34
ikoniaKane_Hart: the default configuration will not limit 20 connections, it can handle much more out of the box (this is an ubuntu machine right ?)22:34
Jordan_UFourFire: Yay!22:34
FourFiregreat, how do I view the files?22:34
FourFiremount that file somehow?22:34
Ben64FourFire: now you should be able to "q" to get out of parted, and mount the file as a loopback device22:34
Kane_Hartikonia it is hah. I guess I will have to comb through it22:34
ikoniaKane_Hart: is it a physical or virtual server ?22:35
FourFirecould you walk me through that again?22:35
Kane_HartI own the physical machine but I am running it virtual env22:36
ikoniaKane_Hart: what virtualization are you using22:36
Jordan_UFourFire: sudo kpartx -a ~/testdisk_test.img && sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop0p1 /mnt/22:36
ikoniait's not the old rhel io problem on virtual is it ?22:36
Jordan_UFourFire: (After exiting parted).22:36
FourFire"mount: special device /dev/mapper/loop0p1 does not exist"22:37
FourFireyeah on fresh terminal now22:37
Ben64FourFire: sudo mount -t ntfs -o loop ~/testdisk_test.img /mnt22:37
Kane_HartProxmox ikonia22:37
Kane_Harthad way to many issues with Vmware in the past22:37
ikoniaKane_Hart: I've never hard of promox22:37
TJ-Kane_Hart: I recall something about PHP needing to be configured to pool connections to the mysql server otherwise it'd hit its simultaneous connection limit quite quickly. Some years ago I remember having to reconfigure for that, but can't remember how, and not sure if the same issue still applies22:37
Jordan_UBen64: FourFire: That command will fail.22:37
Ben64why?22:37
FourFire"NTFS signature is missing"22:37
Ben64:(22:38
ikoniaKane_Hart: that's just a manager, that's not the virtualization22:38
Jordan_UFourFire: Please pastebin the output of "losetup -a" and "sudo blkid".22:38
Kane_HartTJ- that is what it seems like. I will give that a look into.22:38
FourFire"The device '/dev/loop2' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS."22:38
Kane_Hartikonia does CT and VM what you talking about :P22:38
Jordan_UBen64: Because you're mounting the disk, not the partition.22:38
Newb30TJ: Changing usb ports didn't work.22:38
ikoniaKane_Hart: "does" - it's just a manager22:38
FourFirewe know that the NTFS is on the file, but it's hidden inside, it's not marked because I deleted it22:38
ikoniaKane_Hart: it links into kvm and lxc22:38
FourFirewhat is marked is [empty]22:38
Ben64Jordan_U: i see22:38
Jordan_UBen64: kpartx has created a device node for the partition, we just need to figure out that device node's name.22:38
ikoniaKane_Hart: are you using kvm or lxc ?22:38
TJ-Newb30: hmmm, not sure what to suggest.... Are you using the liveCD right now?22:39
Newb30yes22:39
FourFireah right22:39
TJ-Jordan_U: usually it'll be /dev/mapper/loop0p1 or similar22:39
tjbiddlehow can i verify if a package is signed that i'm getting from apt-get?22:40
TJ-FourFire: "ls /dev/mapper/loop*"22:40
FourFireok blue text happened22:40
FourFire"/dev/mapper/loop1p122:41
FourFire"22:41
indefinatelybannhey im working on a java drive by, is there any way to do it without the run java prompt22:41
Jordan_UFourFire: sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop1p1 /mnt/22:41
Newb30TJ: yes22:41
FourFireok, something happened22:42
Jordan_UBen64: I like parted's interface for partition recovery much better than testdisk's, and it seems in this case like it was just generally better at finding partitions. I'm definitely going to prefer parted from now on for this, thanks.22:42
indefinatelybannhey im working on a java drive by, is there any way to do it without the run java prompt22:42
Jordan_UFourFire: Your files should now all be accessible via the path "/mnt/" (though there may be permissions issues accessing them as your user).22:42
TJ-Newb30: let's find out what kernel modules (drivers) are loaded. Start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and type the command "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and hopefully that will install (or confirm it is already installed) a helpful utility first22:43
Ben64Jordan_U: yeah, parted has given me good results22:43
k1lindefinatelybann: no malicious support in here22:43
FourFirewell the /mnt/ folder is still empty22:43
FourFirehow do I force sudo inside nautilus?22:44
q0So I changed the root home folder but it is not sourcing the .kshrc in my $HOME, any tips on what I might be missing ?22:44
TJ-FourFire: it will be ... we already know the file-system structure were hosed ... what you've just done is identical to what we did earlier22:44
FourFireor is there some other method22:44
Ben64FourFire: when you said "something happened" after you tried mounting it, what exactly happened?22:44
Newb30TJ: Ok, done.22:44
FourFirethe terminal flickered and paused before newlining22:44
Jordan_UFourFire: To be clear, since you were asked to run many different commands and didn't say after which one "something happened", what was the last commmand you ran?22:44
q0I'm trying to get an alias in $ROOT sourced with startup console, what am i missing22:44
TJ-Newb30: OK. That helper will send results of commands to the Ubuntu pastebin and provide you with a URL you can paste into this channel for us to go read22:45
FourFire"sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop1p1 /mnt/"22:45
q0oops, there's no $ROOT i mean $HOME lol22:45
TJ-Newb30: Now do "lsmod | pastebinit"22:45
Jordan_UFourFire: Does "ls /mnt/" list your files (or print an error message)?22:45
FourFirethere was no return, only a newline22:45
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FourFireno return22:46
TJ-FourFire: "mount | grep /mnt" to check it did mount something :)22:46
shi__hey guys check out this really cool site22:46
shi__http://rapp.t15.org/22:46
Jordan_UFourFire: That's discouraging.22:46
FourFire"/dev/mapper/loop1p1 on /mnt type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)"22:46
Jordan_Ushi__: Please do not post spam in this channel.22:46
Newb30TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753087/22:46
TJ-FourFire: Yes, that has mounted it.22:46
shi__its not spam22:47
shi__its legit22:47
TJ-Newb30: give me a few mins to digest that :)22:47
shi__Newb30: Line 30 has a mistake, go change it22:47
Jordan_Ushi__: Your message was spam, there is no further discussion about that fact. Don't do it again.22:47
shi__oooooo22:47
TJ-Newb30: ignore shi__22:47
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shi__http://rapp.t15.org/22:47
shi__bitch22:48
FourFireI see there must be a lot of flooding in this channel22:49
chemist^hi everyone, i can't get 3d acceleration to work in virtualbox - i installed windoz xp on it, booted in safe mode as admin, installed additions, and if i tick the "enable 3d acc." the machine doesn't start, gives me an error saying my videocard does not support 3d.22:49
TJ-Newb30: Now do "sudo lspci -nnk | pastebinit"22:49
* FourFire gestures at the trio of floodbots22:49
gmachine_24greetings earthings. I am finishing up my new Ubuntu media server and need to enable the usb wireless "dongle" - it's an old linksys/cisco. The computer is connected via onboard lan but I want to make it wireless. I have done ifconfig and lsusb... what next?22:49
Jordan_UDO NOT follow the link posted by shi__, it contains malware.22:49
chemist^i have a Radeon HD 5450 1 gb ... doesn't it support 3d acc.?22:49
Ben64Jordan_U: hah, i was just checking that too.22:50
Handlebar !best > Handlebar22:50
ubottuHandlebar, please see my private message22:50
gmachine_24you can always tell when school is out; you get people like shi__22:50
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Newb30TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753116/22:50
q0it seems i didn't need anyone else to solve any of my problems22:51
q0it was just impatience reflecting22:52
TJ-Newb30: thanks... and now do 'echo -e "$(lsusb -t)\n\n$(lsusb)" | pastebinit  '22:52
Jordan_UBen64: You may have done the same thing, but with suspicious liks like that don't even open them in a browser, use wget and a text editor to view the site.22:52
Ben64Jordan_U: exactly what i did :) virustotal reports only 3/42 scanners detect it too. hope nobody went to that site22:53
TJ-lynx will keep you safe :)22:53
Newb30TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753131/22:53
gmachine_24can someone please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6753133/ to help with configuration of wireless connection? Thank you. :-)22:54
Schrodinger`Cathey guys22:55
gmachine_24heycat22:55
TJ-Newb30: which version of Ubuntu is installed? If it is the same as the liveISO then do "cat /etc/issue"22:55
Schrodinger`Cati just do a "$ sudo service networking restart" and my graphic interface juste go crazy... is that a normal behavior ?22:55
FourFirehave we tried fdisk Jordan_U ?22:56
gmachine_24for you or the computer?22:56
yorickokay so FourFire can just fdisk his partition table back in place, right?22:56
Newb30TJ: LUbuntu 13.1022:56
Schrodinger`Catgmachine_24, for my graphic interface :)22:56
FourFireor is that not possible for one of the reasons we discovered ?22:56
yorickFourFire: have you imaged the thing already?22:56
FourFireyes22:56
FourFireI have three copies of it22:57
yorickokay :)22:57
Newb30TJ: Err, it says Ubutnu 13.1022:57
yorickJordan_U: so is fdisk a possiblity?22:57
FourFireone has been mounted and some/all of the data has been extracted using some utility22:58
FourFirebut it's all just random text files22:58
chemist^virtualbox doesn't recognize the host's graphics as a 3d capable although it is, has anyone else had this issue?22:58
FourFireand it's 150MB of .txt files22:58
Beldargmachine_24, might be a good start. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Ralink+RT287022:58
yorickFourFire: mounted? but you deleted the partition!22:58
FourFireI had a file tree and I hope I can recover that22:58
Newb30TJ: Also, these commands were on the livecd. Is that what you wanted?22:58
FourFirethe copy of the data was mounted somehow using a loop022:58
Shleehi, my ubuntu server disk used to boot into a purpleish grub menu with the ability to select 'advanced options'... now it always boots into a b/w basic menu... any idea?22:59
FourFireand stuff was copied off that mounted thing into my downloads folder22:59
Jordan_UFourFire: It looks like what actually happened is that you had an ntfs partition with valid files and you overwrote it with a new ntfs partiiton.22:59
yorickFourFire: okay, if it mounts then there is an intact partition22:59
FourFireright22:59
FourFirebut I didn't do anything to the drive after that23:00
yorickFourFire: loop is just a way to mount iso files like you would the real thing23:00
Beldargmachine_24, says solved. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589504 Use this to search the web. ubuntu Ralink RT287023:00
FourFireyeah I figured23:00
gmachine_24Beldar, thanks, I'm reading the first url you posted23:00
FourFireJordan_U, because I thought I was formatting a pendrive23:00
TJ-Newb30: thanks. From the output you've given me I *think* my initial diagnosis is probably correct. The "lsusb" output shows that several ports are being managed by the ohci-pci module, which is the slow-speed USB driver. The output of "lsmod" (list loaded modules) shows that "ohci-pci" is not built-in to the kernel image. My *guess* is that module, or the related "usbhid" isn't in the "initrd.img" and therefore the kernel can't manage the slow-speed usb ports. I23:00
TJ-doubt myself though, because it seems such a basic thing it should be OK.23:00
yorickFourFire: I cannot think of any situations where textfiles are involved23:00
FourFirethe content, my data is text files23:01
FourFirelots of them23:01
FourFire~150MB of them23:01
yorickso what did you retrieve?23:01
Beldargmachine_24, Seems usable in general, not sure myself beyond what I have suggested.23:01
Ben64FourFire: a bit off topic, but i've found Recuva works excellently on Windows23:01
FourFireBen64, only on 12.04 hre23:02
yorickBen64: yes, that's not helpful at all23:02
Ben64why is it not23:02
yorickBen64: he destroyed the partition23:02
Ben64so?23:02
FourFireI do not own a windows23:02
yorickBen64: I think recuva works on deleted files, not partitions23:02
FourFirenow, I'm wondering whether it is at all possible to reconstruct the file tree23:02
Ben64the partition may be back now, which recuva could handle23:02
Jordan_UFourFire: The method we used will only work if you haven't created a new filesystem after "deleting" the partition (removing the entry for the parition from the partition table). So you will have to use other methods, and will likely not be able to recover the filenames :(23:03
TJ-FourFire: If your actions, as it seems they did, over-wrote the NTFS $MFT and backup there is little chance of making any better recovery of files than you've already done23:03
FourFirebecause if I could do that, it would save a great deal of time23:03
FourFireTj-23:03
FourFireok, so how do I use this grep to find keyphrases?23:03
TJ-FourFire: If the same partition was re-formatted with the same file-system type (NTFS) then the new empty $MFT would be written to the same location as the existing one, obliterating it23:03
yorickFourFire: okay, you are not getting the filenames back. are they ordered in a way that can be done automatically?23:03
FourFirenot really...23:04
FourFirethey were ordered in an order to do with how I had processed them23:04
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FourFirehow much which ones had been edited, some by genre23:04
FourFireothers by age23:05
FourFiresome by size23:05
TJ-FourFire: something like "grep -rn "$SEARCH_REGEXP" recup_dir*/*"23:05
FourFirethe really big ones went into their own folder23:05
Newb30TJ: So what should I do? Do I have to do something to this initrd.img?23:05
FourFire$Search_Regexp can be a single keyword right?23:05
yorickFourFire: okay, genre/age can be machine learned or looked up on the internet, size can be found23:06
yorickFourFire: the processing is too bad23:06
TJ-FourFire: Sure... any regexp that grep accepts23:06
FourFireyeah well age is decent enough and if I can seperate all the ones over 1 MB then that'll be good23:06
TJ-FourFire: See this link for tips on additional steps, including identifying duplicates, you can do now: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/After_Using_PhotoRec23:06
FourFirethanks23:07
yorickFourFire: you can separate by size using a simple script23:07
TJ-Newb30: First thing I'd do is methodically test every USB port on that system ... if one works you can at least get in easily23:07
FourFireI guess I finally have an important reason to learn scripting!23:07
yorickFourFire: how many files are there?23:08
TJ-Newb30: Otherwise, it's an involved job to fix it from the liveISO23:08
FourFireI don't remember23:08
yorick>10k?23:08
TJ-Newb30: I'm researching the motherboard model for related bugs but I don't expect to find anything23:08
FourFireenough that there's 150MB+ with a median size of ~50kb23:08
yorickouch23:09
TJ-FourFire: "find ./recup_dir* -type f | wc -l"23:09
FourFiresome were sound files though, compact ones23:09
yorickFourFire: you can use the 'file' tool to identify file type23:09
yorickfile yourfile23:09
TJ-yorick: Yes, I already provided a script using 'file'23:10
FourFire"2528"23:10
Viking667hi all. If a user gets created (say, joe) does that user automatically get added to the users group too?23:10
FourFirenot too bad23:10
FourFiresome of them were quite large23:11
Viking667I'm on saucy, recently installed with a migrated user account from an old machine.23:11
TJ-FourFire: What I usually do, once photorec has completed is 'for f in recupdir*; do echo "$f $(file $f)"; done > tee /tmp/file-types.log'  which will better classify the contents and allow me to intelligently create symlinks from another "./recovery/" directory to each recovered file23:11
FourFireok23:12
FourFirenow I appreciate your help here, but it's really late where I am and I don't need this file right now, but can I ask for help tomorrow?23:12
AncientPCI restarted my laptop and the login manager won't come up. I can still switch to tty1-tty6, but tty7 just shows a single cursor. (Ubuntu 12.04.4)23:13
FourFirethanks for your help too Yorick23:13
AncientPCHow would I go about debugging the problem? I don't see anything relevant in syslog.23:13
Viking667AncientPC: you may have to see if your login manager (say, lightdm) is running.23:14
Viking667Alternatively, check Alt-F823:14
AncientPCI didn't change it from Ubuntu's default.23:14
AncientPCViking667: alt-f8 does nothing. :(23:15
UserErrorHello. Why are your compile targets set for i686 on 32bit for KDE and Gnome3?23:15
UserErrorThat is illogical23:16
Viking667AncientPC: okay. Have you logged in on one of the other 1-6 terminals?23:16
TJ-Newb30: I found a related issue but I'd hope your system would have a recent enough BIOS to have fixed it, but check this anyhow bug #85913723:16
ubottubug 859137 in linux (Ubuntu) "Motherboard AMD 990FX/SB950 usb don't work" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85913723:16
UserErrorGiven your minimum system specifications for those platforms23:16
UserErroras well as Unity23:16
Viking667if so, do a "ps ax | grep dm"23:16
Viking667don't paste the results here, but tell us if you see lightdm23:16
TJ-Newb30: short answer: install the most recent motherboard BIOS23:16
DasEi!nvidia23:17
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto23:17
AncientPCViking667: It's running with a tty: ?23:17
TJ-UserError: that's user error. Ubuntu is built for a wide range of systems, not all installations even have a GUI - server and VM installs, for example23:18
UserErrorTJ, your minimum specifications are impossible for unity on an i686 system23:18
UserErroraka a powerPC23:18
UserErrorin fact, only one chipset exceeds the minimum ram spec and only a quad meets the CPU spec23:19
TJ-UserError: Unity isn't Ubuntu!23:19
UserErrorand very few motherboards were actually created witht he 450GX chipset23:19
UserErrorI'm talking about your DEs23:19
UserErrorNone of the i686 platforms that currently exist meet the minimum specs23:19
Viking667AncientPC: hm.23:19
Newb30TJ: Alright, I'll try that23:20
UserErroryet you compile to them and lose out on performance gains proven by intel since 201223:20
UserErrorHow many PentiumPros out there can run Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, or Xubuntu 13.10?23:20
UserErrorI can name them on one hand23:20
UserErrorSo you're removing the performance benefit for everyone else23:21
UserErrorEven the VIA x86 cpus have MMX and SSE23:21
chemist^AncientPC, haha nick nickname :D23:22
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ianorlinI run lubuntu 32 bit on a pentium 423:24
UserErrorExactly, and you are losing out on performance23:26
UserErrordue to machines that can't23:26
UserErrorThat P4 has SSE3 even23:26
Jordan_UUserError: Ubuntu is used for headless servers as well, but more importantly you're not going to affect any policy change by trying to convince people in this channel.23:26
UserErrorRight, which is why i said DEs23:26
UserErrorfrom currently existing spins and the default23:27
UserErrorJordan_U , that sounds like a bureaucracy problem then23:28
Jordan_UUserError: There is no separate package repository for "servers" vs "desktops", unless you're proposing having different compiler optimisation settings for different packages (in which case you're still not going to effect such a change through discussion in this channel).23:28
UserErrorThat is exactly what i'm saying. THe automated build tools are already there23:28
Jordan_UUserError: Please file a bug report then requesting that be done then.23:29
UserErrorUnfortunately that requires an email address and login to launchpad23:30
UserErrorTHere is no open way to convey the information23:30
UserErrorironically23:30
ianorlinthen why are you here?23:31
maxxsireHey I have a problem. Every time I open a browser my computer gets real sluggish almost to the point of freezing and after about a half hour my browser completly terminates. I've had no problem for over a year and a half. It's been sluggish for over a month now and is getting worse. What should I do. Thanks in advance.23:31
Jordan_UUserError: Since this is not support related, please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.23:31
UserErrorHoping someone will file it for me that already gave them their information23:31
Jordan_Umaxxsire: What browser?23:31
UserErrorsince it needs to be finally addressed in 201423:31
UserErrorTo address the speed issues per dollar spent on machine23:32
UserErrorwhich has gone down for the past three years23:32
UserErroron Ubuntu23:32
Jordan_UUserError: Please stop the offtopic discussion in this channel.23:32
maxxsireFirefox, Chrome, Konqueror, you name it23:33
jeffrey_fmaxxsire: what is your home page set to?23:33
maxxsireubuntu google search23:33
jeffrey_fmaxxsire:Memory?23:33
maxxsire6 GB RAM23:34
maxxsirejeffrey_f: 6 GB Ram23:35
AncientPChmm, the reason lightdm isn't working for me is because there's a package conflict for xserver-xorg.23:36
AncientPCwhile gdm works fine23:36
AncientPCI'm on 12.04 (precise), but all my xserver packages are from 12.10 (quantal). Something is screwy here...23:38
maxxsireMy RAM runs at 10 to 30 percent and my CPU runs at 5 to 15 percent. vary rarely any higher than those.23:38
DinosaurioWill be possible to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 with no problems?23:38
AncientPCI have no quantal lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, where could these quantal packages be coming from?23:38
chemist^Dinosaurio, i'd always suggest clean installs :)23:39
maxxsireHow do you message someone like your messaging me?23:39
AncientPCmaxxsire: /msg name message23:40
Dinosauriochemist^: wouldn't that be a waste of time? I mean, I would need to spend a lot of time configurating all the programs again23:41
chemist^Dinosaurio, does it really take that much time?23:42
maxxsireWhat could it be? What can I do?23:42
AncientPCchemist^: It can be if you run a lot of customizations / server apps (e.g. postgres, nginx, supervisort, etc)23:43
apb1963[15:41] <apb1963> 12.04 is LTS23:43
apb1963[15:41] <Sho_> If they're not updating Qt, they're not "supporting" it23:43
apb1963[15:41] <PovAddictW> yes, but you should expect to get a Qt from April 201223:43
apb1963Yes... yes I should.23:43
AncientPCchemist^: I also build a bunch of packages from scratch and use a bunch of PPAs, custom kernel modules, etc. You don't really want to go down the Windows road and get in the habit of reinstalling OSes.23:44
TJ-maxxsire: do you have a lot of open tabs saved?23:45
TJ-maxxsire: As you say it affects multiple browsers that would seem to rule-out local disk caching... when you say sluggish... sluggish how? For pages to be rendered after they are requested? For fully loaded pages to lag when interacting with them?23:48
john__/me23:50
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TJ-maxxsire: I'd suggest you create a brand new clean user profile and log-in to that from a fresh reboot. Do some browsing, see if you can reproduce the issue. If you cannot, that tells you it is likely caused by some setting in your regular profile23:56
BeldarDinosaurio, No problems is an opinion.23:57
Dinosaurio:)23:57
jeffrey_fmaxxsire: you can try your guest profile if you still have it active.  That should always be vanilla.23:59

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