[00:00] <coventry`> It was just a bash/supervisor syntax difference.  Different environments. :-)
[00:02] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Ok, done.
[00:02] <bloopletech> I'm trying to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10, and do-release-upgrade says there is no newer version. /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades already has Prompt=normal
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Package_Dependencies a dependency is a require prerequisite in order for the software to work. a recommend is not required for it to work but may add extra functionality
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: so do you get the launcher now when logging in?
[00:03] <k1l> bloopletech: what does "lsb_release -a" give you?
[00:03] <k1l> bloopletech: and "uname -a"
[00:03] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Yes.  I do.
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: sweet. now for cuda is there a specific version you need that you were trying to install from nvidia site?
[00:05] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Not that I'm aware of.
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: or is any version suitable?
[00:06] <Viking667> xilence: ... hullo?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[00:07] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[00:08] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  GPU is GeForce GTX 770
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: ok. first thing. 13.04 support is ending withing the next 2 weeks. (not sure of the exact date). so you should consider updating to 13.10 as the repos will be no longer accessible after that.
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: just gonna check what cuda is available from the repo. 2 secs
[00:10] <pnunn> hitsujiTMO: what's the command to do the dist-upgrade from the command line? Can't remember.
[00:10] <demophobia> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[00:11] <k1l> pnunn: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> pnunn: as in do-release-upgrade ?
[00:11] <pnunn> Thankyou folks.
[00:11] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  I think I'm going to owe you a beer or... something.
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: lol :)
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> apt-cache show Al___
[00:12] <Viking667> sigh. I need to depart. I'll be back later.
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> doh, wc
[00:12] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  E:  No packages found
[00:13] <freshmint> hey i have a bunch of AVI files created about 2 years back. now i encoded them and i like to associate the dates of the encoded files with the dates of the original AVI files
[00:14] <freshmint> any idea how to do this in bash. i already created a script for the encoding part . so i can easily use the basic structure of it for resetting the last modified dates
[00:16] <bloopletech> k1l: http://pastebin.com/cW9vVVZs
[00:16] <Gambit--> trism, that did it, thanks.
[00:17] <k1l> bloopletech: now please "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: ok both raring and saucy have 5.0. its in the package nvidia-cuda-toolkit ... I'd presume you need to install the nvidia driver too, since you're using a 770, maybe the nvidia-319 would be the best choice.                if you want a later version of cuda you will need to install from another source, but doing so is not straight forward as it seems the nvidia module and the cuda modules need to be compiled with 2 different versions
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> of gcc. hence why its recommended to use prepackaged versions
[00:18] <bloopletech> k1l: http://pastebin.com/k4C5WhCs (thanks for the help, btw)
[00:18] <freshmint> hmm probably stat and touch will do the job
[00:21] <k1l> bloopletech: hmm, looks good  so far. now do a "sudo do-release-upgrade" that should initiate the 13.10 upgrade
[00:21] <bloopletech> k1l: http://pastebin.com/0URahMsy :(
[00:22] <bloopletech> Could it be the mirror I'm using or something? I'm using the aarnet Australia mirrors
[00:22] <thom_r> Flash will stop working this April in Chromium. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-2014
[00:22] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  I'm fine with an older version of CUDA.  I remember the NVIDIA*.run file that I downloaded required gcc 4.2 (which was horribly difficult to track down for my OS).
[00:22] <k1l> bloopletech: hmm, maybe the servers have a problem. go to the systemsettings and then to updates etc and then switch servers to the main-server
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: ok, then give nvidia-cuda-toolkit a shot and good luck. there may be someone else here who has used it who might be able to give you further pointers
[00:24] <Magiobiwan> Quick Question: How do I get back to the "GUI" Virtual Console on the Ubuntu Server 13.10 netinstall CD?
[00:24] <jim> hey RedDeath
[00:24] <jim> nice to see you again
[00:25] <Magiobiwan> I had to switch to console 4 to discover that it's actually eth0 plugged in on my server and not eth1
[00:25] <Magiobiwan> But Ctrl + Alt + F7 isn't doing anything
[00:25] <daftykins> Magiobiwan: alt+F7 or F8
[00:25] <daftykins> just go through all function keys
[00:25] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Alright.  Thank you.  Do you have a paypal account that I can dump about $10 into? (That should be enough to buy you some beer, or something)
[00:26] <bloopletech> k1l: do-release-upgrade -d seems to be working
[00:26] <Magiobiwan> I did find that Ctrl + Alt + F3 tells my laptop to "turn off external display" though
[00:26] <Magiobiwan> :P
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: i don't. give it to charity instead
[00:26] <k1l> bloopletech: did you switch the servers?
[00:27] <Al___> Alright.  Well... again, thank you.
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: no problems
[00:27] <bloopletech> k1l: yeah, but that on it's own didn't change anything
[00:28] <jimmy_> RedDeath: E-mail me at predator@windowslive.com when you get the chance.
[00:28] <Magiobiwan> The only other console that does anything is Virtual Console 3
[00:28] <tony13> fuckyou dirty fucking dirty cocksuckers
[00:28] <gordonjcp> tony13: did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[00:29] <tony13> fuckyou
[00:29] <daftykins> it would seem he does not
[00:29] <Magiobiwan> Indeed
[00:29] <tony13> fuck you too
[00:30] <tony13> +who is your fucvk freind f
[00:30] <Magiobiwan> God I hate this IPMI
[00:30] <daftykins> !ops | tony13
[00:30] <Magiobiwan> Apparently it's TTY1 by the way
[00:30] <thom_r> hi tony13
[00:30] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Ah, unity needed to be reset.  Ok.  Everything is up and running, now.
[00:30] <thom_r> dang it
[00:31]  * Magiobiwan tells Ubuntu to use eth0 instead of eth1
[00:33] <pkillpeers> hello guys. what do you think its the best? gufw or firestarter?
[00:33] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: neither
[00:33] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: are you running a server?
[00:34] <pkillpeers> no. desktop ubuntu for personal usage
[00:34] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: if you're using a desktop machine, you're almost certainly behind NAT and a firewall is just going to make your life miserable
[00:34] <gordonjcp> there's no point in having a firewall on a desktop
[00:34] <pkillpeers> oh ok then :)
[00:35] <pkillpeers> thanks for the tip
[00:36] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: if your modem plugs directly in and your desktop has a real live internet-facing IP address, then yes, you need a firewall
[00:36] <gordonjcp> you also need your head examined
[00:36] <daftykins> that is not your normal friendly tone, gordonjcp!
[00:36] <gordonjcp> daftykins: :-p
[00:37] <pkillpeers> nah im behind nat
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> Also eth0 is funky. What...
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: define "funky"
[00:39] <Magiobiwan> Apparently it doesn't work either
[00:39]  * Magiobiwan checks he typed in his IP Allocation properly
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: what chipset is it?
[00:40] <Magiobiwan> One moment while I yell at the IPMI
[00:41] <Magiobiwan> SuperMicro IPMI = horrible
[00:41] <Magiobiwan> Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
[00:41] <xilence> @Viking667 my max res is 1024 x 768 in xrandr
[00:41] <virhilo> hi guys
[00:42] <xilence> hi
[00:42] <virhilo> i have some weird issue
[00:42] <virhilo> fresh install of 13.10
[00:42] <xilence> what's it?
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: what version?
[00:43] <Magiobiwan> hitsujiTMO, of Ubuntu? 13.10 server netinstall
[00:43] <virhilo> and nvidia drivers freezing after grub before asking for cryptsetup passphraze(just after loding initial ramdisk)
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: that should be covered ok by the e1000e driver in the kernel then. what oddities are you getting?
[00:44] <bloopletech> I'm a bit confused, I've got the upgrade notification for saucy to appear now, but it's saying it's a BETA release... saucy shipped a couple months ago didn't it?
[00:44] <virhilo> weird thing that enabling buildin graphics makes it work(sometimes, but allways in recovery mode)
[00:44] <virhilo> no clue how to debug this
[00:44] <psusi> bloopletech, yep, and raring is now end of life
[00:45] <bloopletech> psusi: yeah, that's why I'm upgrading... but wonder why I'm getting the BETA notice
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> bloopletech: did you pull the iso from?
[00:46] <Magiobiwan> I'm putting in my CIDR netmask and it's configuring it supposedly correctly
[00:46] <psusi> bloopletech, have you not run/updated the system in the last few months?
[00:46] <Magiobiwan> DHCP doesn't work
[00:46] <bloopletech> hitsujiTMO, sorry? I installed raring from an iso downloaded from ubuntu.com, I ran updates last this morning
[00:46] <virhilo> it even gets weirder, i installed the same ubuntu image on same machine 3 days ago and it worked perfectly(even played some games) then left it off for few days and got suprised with black screen, same as after fresh install now(windows 7 which i rarely use on that box work fine so no hardware issues)
[00:46] <bloopletech> I'm fairly sure it was the ordinary release iso, not a dev release
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> bloopletech: ahh sorry wrong person
[00:47] <bloopletech> ah no worries
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: maybe this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1018561 ?
[00:47] <psusi> bloopletech, yes, but was that the first time you've updated since saucy was released?  if so it may have failed since raring is already end of life and so you're still running off outdated packages from when saucy was still in beta
[00:47] <Magiobiwan> hitsujiTMO, I ssupect I'm misconfiguring the network
[00:48] <bloopletech> psusi: nah, this is my daily machine so I run updates at least every few weeks
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: ahh, that would make more sense considering that bug should be fixed in the kernel you are using
[00:48] <bloopletech> I can dump some sort of apt log or something to show
[00:49] <TJ->  
[00:49] <bloopletech> tbh, if the message is just wrong and it's the normal saucy release then I don't mind ignoring it. Just want to make sure I'm not going to somehow upgrade to a prerelease version
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> Any ideas why GRUB (efi) would only "find" an older kernel for Fedora? I've got a triple boot (Windows 8, Ubuntu, and Fedora 19). GRUB only shows the 3.9.x kernel for Fedora, even though I have the 3.12.x kernels installed.
[00:51] <Magiobiwan> Ha
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> PatrickDickey: whats the output you're getting for: sudo op-prober
[00:52] <Magiobiwan> HA. EAT THAT NETINSTALL. It was configuring my network wrong
[00:52] <Magiobiwan> Manual Config FTW
[00:54] <TJ-> PatrickDickey: Because grub works on the kernel versions known to initramfs-tools via "/var/lib/initramfs-tools/" entries. To add 'foreign' kernels, you have to do something like "update-initramfs -c -k <foreign-kernel-version>" if I recall correctly
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> hitsujiTMO: I'm assuming you meant sudo os-prober, right?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> PatrickDickey: yes, yes i did. sorry for the typo
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> TJ-: Would initramfs-tools (in Trusty) know about the 3.12.x series kernels?
[00:57] <TJ-> PatrickDickey: I was playing with this stuff about a month ago, my memory is hazy now, but I dug into the code to figure it out when I had a trial of Trusty installed alongside my stable install (I use LVMs per rootfs, and a combined /boot/ partition
[00:58] <TeraJL> on ubuntu 12.04, when i put youtube videos in fullscreen 720p it get weird lines like some parts(pixels) are cut off or a little out of place, both on video and buttons and time number (chrome+flash)
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6747901 is the results of os-prober
[00:58] <bloopletech> TeraJL, you mean like the top part of the image is slightly to the left or right of the bottom part
[00:59] <bloopletech> and does it tend to happen on fast moving scenes and not slow ones?
[00:59] <psusi> bloopletech, message is just wrong, go ahead and upgrade
[00:59] <bloopletech> psusi: awesome, thanks :)
[00:59] <Magiobiwan> Is there ANY way to remove the LVM you create in the partitioning wizard?
[00:59] <psusi> Magiobiwan, what do you mean?
[01:00] <Magiobiwan> The guided partitioning didn't mak eit the way I needed it, and I can't remove it to do it again
[01:00] <psusi> Magiobiwan, how do you need it?  If you need it special you will need to start over and do manual partitioning
[01:00] <Magiobiwan> Wonderful
[01:01] <TeraJL> http://i.imgur.com/gtcAsVt.png where you can see some weird glitches, on windows it appeared just fine
[01:01] <TeraJL> 720p
[01:01]  * Magiobiwan prepares to murder the IPMI on his server
[01:02] <bloopletech> TeraJL, you mean the white bar in the 'Angry Joe' thingy at the bottom?
[01:03] <Magiobiwan> Maybe I can go back and do it again after it installs the base system...
[01:04] <psusi> Magiobiwan, how do you need it?  you need to start over and do manual if you need it special
[01:05] <TeraJL> bloopletech: you can see for exemple, the word "humble" as a cut on the M, the black bar on the bottom has some glitches, the video looks low quality, the 9 in "Number 9" is weird.. on the picture it doesn't seem much, but if you watch the video on lower size(same quality), or watch on windows(same quality and screen size), i don't get any of those glitches
[01:05] <Magiobiwan> I need 2GB /boot, 16GB swap (server will be used for hosting VMs), and 64GB /
[01:05] <Magiobiwan> Then the rest unconfigured LVM
[01:06] <psusi> Magiobiwan, what do you need a /boot for?
[01:06] <TeraJL> the glithes are always on the same places, it's like some lines that get distorted on the same place while on fullscreen
[01:06] <aFeijo> my sidebar/launcher sometimes (like now) lose all but 1 icon colors. Its all grayed and hard to see. How to fix this?
[01:06] <bloopletech> TeraJL, ok, sorry it's not the issue I thought it was. I'm not sure what it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a video driver issue
[01:06] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: Why 2GB for /boot/ ? Are you intending to keep all older kernel/initrd.img sets?
[01:06] <Magiobiwan> psusi, I might accidentally fill / with ISOs
[01:07] <psusi> Magiobiwan, what's that got to do with /boot?
[01:07] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, I'm going to be adding SystemRescueCD to the OS list in Grub
[01:07] <TeraJL>  bloopletech, i can play games just fine, and the screen looks perfect, even on videos on VLC(fullscreen)
[01:07] <Magiobiwan> And unpacking it to /boot
[01:07] <Magiobiwan> So if I ever NEED it, I don't have to murder IPMI several times
[01:07] <bloopletech> TeraJL, oh, I'm sure you can, but flash tends not to play very nicely with video drivers
[01:07] <psusi> Magiobiwan, once you set that up it shouldn't matter if you fill / later
[01:08] <bloopletech> like, I get vertical tearing, but only in flash and fullscreen, everything else is fine
[01:08] <TeraJL> on firefox seems better
[01:08] <bloopletech> hmm can you try opting into the html5 option on youtube? that might fix some of them anyway
[01:09] <psusi> Magiobiwan, I suggest forgoing /boot entirely, but yea, you will need to start over and set up lvm by hand before running the installer for what you want
[01:09] <psusi> and pick manual partitioning
[01:09] <closingin> hi all.
[01:09] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: I'd recommend you reduce rootfs to around 10G and use LVM, and have a 10G LV for /var/, a larger LV for /home/, and then another for /home/all/ where you can keep shared stuff like ISOs, and a separate VG for the Virtual machine images. I'd also recommend a RAID1 mirror set if this thing is vital.
[01:09] <Magiobiwan> I'd do RAID 1 if I had more than 1 drive in the server
[01:09] <psusi> TJ-, why a separate /var?
[01:10] <psusi> raid10 > raid1 ;)
[01:10] <Magiobiwan> As it is now I have a 1TB HD. I can't have a 2nd put in unless I want to pay another $20/mo
[01:10] <Magiobiwan> :(
[01:10]  * rootpt is back.
[01:10] <closingin> I installed ubuntu, but after boot, a "xrandr" tells me that : http://pastebin.com/SPRQp58v
[01:10] <closingin> By the way, i have hybrid amd/intel graphics.
[01:11] <closingin> ubuntu thinks i have two monitors, but i only have one !
[01:11] <Magiobiwan> So there's no way to go back to partitioning?
[01:11] <closingin> Can someone help me with this issue ?
[01:11] <psusi> Magiobiwan, maybe but it will be faster to reboot and just start over
[01:11] <TJ-> psusi: To prevent the rootfs accidentally being over-run by root processes filling /var/
[01:11] <TeraJL> on chrome://plugins/ i force the 11.2 instead of 11.9 flash , and seems better
[01:12] <psusi> TJ-, why does such an unlikely event matter?
[01:12] <Magiobiwan> psusi, that's debatable. It really depends on if I can get the server to boot to the IPMI virtual CDROM on my first try
[01:12] <TeraJL> some flashing green screens while switching but it's better
[01:12] <TJ-> psusi: Because it happens; had to deal with it many times on servers with run-away logs and cache/spool issues
[01:13] <aFeijo> my sidebar/launcher sometimes (like now) lose all but 1 icon colors. Its all grayed and hard to see. How to fix this?
[01:13] <Magiobiwan> /var is where the ISO templates are stored actually
[01:14] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: I do a lot of distributed building and have a separate LV for /var/cache/ccache
[01:17] <bloopletech> I'm trying to upgrade raring -> saucy, and the updater is aborting... is there an easy way to see which ppas are blocking my upgrade?
[01:17] <daftykins> any you've added won't be helping
[01:17] <Magiobiwan> Ohmygod the IPMI seems to be working
[01:17] <closingin> Nobody can help me ?
[01:17] <bloopletech> ok, so another question is there a way to bulk purge them? or do I have to ppa-purge each individual repo?
[01:18] <zacarias> Can anyone help solving a problem on a Macbook running Ubuntu 12.04.3 (DreamStudio), in which no sound comes out from the headphones nor external loudspeakers? I tried to change things in Alsa Mixer and Sound settings, but with no luck. It does mute the bilt-in speakers and it recognizes the phones (in the sound settings), but no sound comes out from.. I think it has something do to with drivers or alsa drivers: it has a NVIDIA driver, whi
[01:18] <zacarias> 12.04.3) has a Intel and it works out of the box
[01:19] <bloopletech> zacarias, 12.04 uses pulseaudio right? you should probably be checking the inputs/outputs in System Settings rather than the alsamixer
[01:19] <bloopletech> you might have the wrong sound output selected
[01:19] <rww> (yes, it does)
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> Ok, so this is odd. I dug into the grub.cfg file, and the 3.12.x kernel is listed under advanced options for Fedora 19. I have to actually edit the command to find the right one. :S
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> bloopletech: I believe you have to purge them individually. Unless you want to manually edit your sources.
[01:22] <zacarias> bloopletech: I checked that first. I also cheched (but not quite thoroughly) with pulse audio mixer. Nothing works for the moment.
[01:22] <bloopletech> PatrickDickey, I'm fine with manually editing ... but I have to purge first right?
[01:23] <PatrickDickey> bloopletech: I believe that the ppa-purge does that for you. But, I think it also removes any files that were installed using the ppa (or at least cleans the cache). Don't quote me on that though, as I've only used it a couple of times.
[01:23] <AlecTaylor> hi
[01:24] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work! - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[01:24] <bloopletech> zacarias, hmm that sucks. I'm using 13.04 on a mid 2012 MBP and my sound works fine... so in the output setting for the sound control panel, there's no 'headphones' entry? Or you select that entry and it doesn't work?
[01:24] <bloopletech> PatrickDickey, thanks for the help
[01:24] <bloopletech> zacarias, do the internal speakers work?
[01:30] <zacarias> bloopletech: There's a headphones entry, it's like if everything was ok. But no sound comes from it (neither headphones nor external speakers). The internal speakers work
[01:31] <demophobia> is mplayer the name as Movie Player?
[01:43] <urda> exit
[01:43] <urda> whoops sorry
[01:49] <Creamy> so who uses a firewall with ubuntu?
[01:52] <somsip> Creamy: just ask the real question and anyone who knows will answer
[01:54] <Creamy> STFU
[01:54] <Creamy> the real question is why are you such a fuktard
[01:55] <Creamy> I bet you have anal beads hanging out your ass right now
[01:55] <somsip> !attitude | Creamy
[01:55] <Creamy> sorry daddy
[01:56] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[01:57]  * Magiobiwan sighs and murders his server's IPMI
[01:57] <Magiobiwan> Again
[01:59] <Rick_Ubuntu> I am looking for a opensource video editor that will allow me to sync sound from an external recorder
[01:59] <Rick_Ubuntu> anyone have any ideas?
[02:01] <somsip> Rick_Ubuntu: don't know about the support for external sources, but cinelerra, handbrake and lives are all possibilities
[02:04] <IdleOne> Rick_Ubuntu: take a look at OpenShot
[02:04] <Rick_Ubuntu> Open shot does not allow me to sync audio I cant link the media from one device to another in the same timeline.
[02:06] <IdleOne> sorry, then I don't know
[02:07] <IdleOne> Rick_Ubuntu: you might try asking in #ubuntustudio also
[02:07] <TJ-> Rick_Ubuntu: I think it is (used to be) possible to separate the audio from the video and move it within the timeline... 'unlock' maybe?
[02:08] <Rick_Ubuntu> TJ you mean unlock in OPENSHOT.  if that is a feature it is not readily visible.
[02:08] <TJ-> Rick_Ubuntu: It's a while ago since I hacked on that project, so maybe its not there or I'm mis-remembering
[02:20] <xilence> @viking667
[02:20] <xilence> hey....
[02:20] <Viking667> welcome back.
[02:21] <xilence> So you wanna take a guess at what happened or shall I tell you? :p
[02:34] <darius93> is there a way to snap windows horizontally?
[02:34] <GEDTMOR> why would you want to do that?
[02:35] <darius93> with me being a developer, having a program split down when pulling it to the corner doesnt show everything i wish for it to show as to having it going across i can
[02:35] <darius93> if that made any sense
[02:35] <GEDTMOR> upstream knows better dont get any ideas
[02:36] <widdershins> This may be an odd question... but it's worth a shot. Myself and the missus are moving into a new house soon in a community with no broadband. Could I order multiple (3?) telephone lines and multiple (3) dialup connections into a box with that many 56.6k dialup modems. Could I make a modem-bank server using ubuntu to then feed the bandwidth-sharing system over wireless to give my house something sensible? I know it could be a pricy subscription...
[02:36] <widdershins> but I'm wondering if it is posisble. :)
[02:36] <xangua> darius93: If you have CompizSsettings Manager installed, check the Grid plugin
[02:37] <darius93> thanks xangua. let me go on and install that now
[02:37] <GEDTMOR> you need to have a 3d capble card
[02:38] <somsip> widdershins: it's possible. Try searching for 'ubuntu multilink' as I see lots of results, though none for modems are particularly recent
[02:38] <darius93> I do GEDTMOR
[02:39] <somsip> danielbw: do you use unity? http://is.gd/PQlMx4
[02:41] <widdershins> thanks so much, somsip!
[02:41] <bloopletech> widdershins, it's possible, I think the kind of search terms you want are 'bonded line' etc. Though, depending upon where you are there may be thinks like 3G/HSDPA internet connections, and microwave or sattelite links. Any of those is likely to give you better perf than modems
[02:41] <otaku> Hey guys I need a hand with making a button in unity that exec a script
[02:42] <somsip> otaku: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141229/how-to-add-a-shell-script-to-launcher-as-shortcut
[02:44] <otaku> somsip: ok let me double check against that.  I have pretty sure I used that guide.  I make sure I haven't typo'd
[02:44] <bloopletech> widdershins, also, the phone line may support broadband, but merely not be connected yet. I would consider that as well... actually, if you're able to have telephone lines put in, why not just have the telecom company put in a new line that you can run broadband on?
[02:44] <Viking667> what do I need to add custom resolutions to Ubuntu on startup?
[02:46] <somsip> Viking667: a custom xorg.conf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[02:46] <Viking667> ugh.
[02:46] <Viking667> so the desktop has no way to do so, hm?
[02:47] <Viking667> cos I just hosed some guys login
[02:47] <Viking667> thankfully he's got it back.
[02:47] <somsip> Viking667: AIUI, the desktop takes all of its settings from the real config files
[02:48] <AlecTaylor> hi
[02:48] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[02:49] <otaku> somsip: Hi, I have just double checked and I think I have done it correctly.  This is my unity file which I have put at /usr/share/applications/           http://pastebin.com/mhayTXeG
[02:49] <somsip> AlecTaylor: have you discounted that this is a hardware issue?
[02:50] <Beldar> AlecTaylor, Have you tried the guest account or made a new user to see if this persists there? Anything leading up to this?
[02:50] <Viking667> somsip: yeah, well in this case, there IS no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <Viking667> ... that's why I actually asked.
[02:50] <somsip> otaku: if the file has chmod +x that's looks okay to me, but I have no experience of unity so maybe best to check with someone who has
[02:50] <somsip> Viking667: it's not created by default any more.
[02:51] <otaku> somsip: ok thank you.  Do you recommend another channel ?
[02:51] <somsip> otaku: here is fine, just if there are not many people to help ,you might not get your answer. I guess you have restarted unity to get it to find the new shortcut file?
[02:52] <otaku> somsip: ahh no you I used update database and I have the icon.  but it doesn't load
[02:52] <otaku> somsip: this is my bash script http://pastebin.com/LGGXbWGS
[02:53] <otaku> somsip: I have checked before files are marked x
[02:54] <somsip> otaku: ok - show how much I know about unity then :) I'd question if gksu is the right thing to use in a terminal script, but like I say - I don't know unity at all so maybe this is right
[02:55] <otaku> somsip: thank you mate
[02:55] <Viking667> so. Where would I put stuff I want run each time I log in/
[02:55] <Viking667> I've heard of .xinit
[02:55] <Viking667> err, .xinitrc  or .xsession
[02:55] <somsip> Viking667: what sort of stuff? X related I guess?
[02:55] <Viking667> yeah, to add custom resolutions
[02:56] <Viking667> i.e. 1280x1024 when the xorg server's not finding them for itself.
[02:56] <somsip> Viking667: in the xorg.conf, like I said
[02:56] <Viking667> somsip: err, the user I'm dealing with doesn't know how to make one of those.
[02:56] <somsip> Viking667: erm...well, that's the place to put them AFAIK
[02:56] <Viking667> and I've already botched one setup.
[02:57] <mat_64> Hi, could someone help me. I'm looking for an tool to use my laptop cam as barcode/QRcode reader.
[02:57] <Viking667> I tried putting a Section "Monitor" ..... into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10_monitor.conf    except then he couldn't log in, as the xserver died.
[02:58] <somsip> Viking667: last time I had to set one up manually, it was tricky. There are lots of other links on that page I linked to earlier. I believe there is a Xconfig --configurate (or something that escapes me) that generates a default conf for you to build from. Sorry - need to go out so can't help more
[02:58] <Viking667> ahhh, right.
[02:58] <somsip> Vi good luck anyhow
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> somsip: It's not a hardware issue; rebooted into Windows and everything works fine here
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> Beldar: Haven't tried a new user, would the guest user suffice for testing?
[02:59] <somsip> AlecTaylor: k - sorry but I need to afk. I can't help more for now
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> Beldar: Nothing leading up to this; last thing I remember installing was Kate
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[03:05] <otaku> Does anyone else have experience in unity buttons ?
[03:11] <Viking667> yay.
[03:11] <xilence> :p
[03:17] <cardoso> somebody ?
[03:17] <Logan_> !ask | cardoso
[03:18] <slorbast> Hey all, looking for some software solutions - Audio streaming server for Ubuntu + Android audio receiver software that work well together.
[03:18] <Beldar> AlecTaylor, I would try the guest account a new user can be made with the user app and removed easily, a live environment is another test. You want cover some variables basically by seeing if it is your user only.
[03:18] <slorbast> Basically, I want to take a video and ffmpeg to get the audio and stream that audio at a low bitrate to my android (data cap)
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> slorbast: pre-convert then host on owncloud?
[03:23] <xilence> So guys, how do I know which monitor is being used for my xorg.config?
[03:23] <somsip> slorbast: do you need to use ffmpeg or is that just an option?
[03:23] <xilence> I only have one monitor.
[03:24] <slorbast> SchrodingersScat, somsip, will also be using livestreamer to grab live video, convert in real time to audio, then serve it up at low audio bitrate for my bandwidth limited device
[03:26] <somsip> slorbast: no idea then.
[03:27] <login_> oi
[03:28] <login_> xoxer
[03:30] <slorbast> Apparently shoutcast still exists and hasn't faded into obscurity, not sure if it's premier for Ubuntu though, worth a shot.
[03:39] <rawfodog> whats the name of that program that automatically installs skype on ubuntu ? I forget. It installs some other things that are usually a pain in the butt aswell
[03:41] <somsip> rawfodog: sudo apt-get install skype (after enabling partner repos) is all you need
[03:42] <rawfodog> k :)
[03:42] <rawfodog> I found the deb on the official skype site. Thanks a lot !
[03:42] <Ziber> So, I ran a few basic updates on today for my laptop, running 13.10. The only sound output my computer now recognizes is the HDMI port for my external monitor. System settings still sees my speakers and can play sounds through those, but pulseaudio can't. Any thoughts?
[03:48] <guest___> Quick question - what do I need to do or install bfore downloading and installing Gecko Media Player?
[03:49] <somsip> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[03:49] <somsip> guest___: install it from the repo instead
[03:50] <guest___> somsip - Do you mean to install it from the Ubuntu Software Center or from its main site?
[03:51] <somsip> guest___: from Sopftware Center
[03:51] <guest___> somsip - Okay.
[04:00] <androidfr33k> I have this Western Digital Drive  and for some reason when I partition it during the Ubuntu live 64 bit installation it is leaving me with 1 mb free space before my /dev/sda1 /boot and 1mb free space at the end?  I get a warning about My partition orally requires me to create a separate partition for the bootloader
[04:00] <mdev> http://pastebin.com/Mhn8tbBG
[04:00] <mdev> how do I fix that? am using ubuntu 12.04
[04:00] <androidfr33k> It goes on to say that the 1mb partition us a reserved Bios Boot area and not the same as /boot
[04:01] <androidfr33k> Its one of the newer drives not SSD or hybrid but a newer type of disk forgot the name
[04:03] <somsip> androidfr33k: searches seem to imply to leave it alone. Best to check WD support page with the model for your drive. This isn't really an ubuntu support issue
[04:05] <mdev> no one knows?
[04:05] <mdev> says it has dependancies but it won't install them? really?
[04:05] <Beldar> mdev, How about a context.
[04:06] <guest______> I would like to install the Deepin Software Center for Ubuntu 12.04.  Will this replace the default Ubuntu Software Center?
[04:09] <Beldar> guest______, Not sure in your question, however it is a 3rd party and not supported. If you have problems you are on your own here.
[04:10] <Beldar> guest______, I would not do it, but I use apt-get never the software center.
[04:12] <guest______> I am referring to this page for the terminal commands for version 3.0 of Deepin Software Center:  http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/deepin-software-center-version-30-and.html
[04:12] <zane001> hi
[04:13] <cfhowlett> znegreetings
[04:13] <guest______> I just want to know if those terminal commands would be safe to execute and not delete the default Ubuntu Software Center.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> guest______, learn to use apt-get and leave 3rd party substitutes alone
[04:15] <guest______> cfhowlett - okay.
[04:16] <kriskropd> is anyone here familair with SANE? I built SANE 1.0.22 followign these really simplified instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompileSaneFromSource however I'm having an issue with permissions - only root can use the scanner device, but unlike the guide's suggestions, including my scanner in /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules (where it was already included, actually) didn't resolve anything
[04:16] <kriskropd> s/root/sudo
[04:19] <Ziber> Why is the time/date missing from my status bar at the top of my screen? How can I put it back?
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[04:19] <FloodBot1> Exsquire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:20] <mdev> think your floodbot needs to be tweaked
[04:20] <mdev> as that's a pretty slow response time
[04:20] <Magiobiwan> Those ALL were sent in the same second
[04:20] <Magiobiwan> So
[04:20] <Magiobiwan> Yeah
[04:23] <Diamondcite> More surprised excess flood didn't trigger on the IRCD
[04:25] <Magiobiwan> Diamondcite, it wasn't a SUPER big flood
[04:26] <q0> problem with CVS hanging with checkout, any ideas ?
[04:26] <q0> it always hangs at the same directory every time
[04:27] <q0> what the flying fuck, it's TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN
[04:27] <somsip> !language | q0
[04:27] <q0> i'm really sorry
[04:27] <somsip> q0: so, how is this an ubuntu issue? I'm not getting that from what you've said so far
[04:29] <cfhowlett> q0, error messages MIGHT help a diagnosis as the IRC crystal ball is out for repairs
[04:29] <Magiobiwan> cfhowlett, I already said sorry for dropping it
[04:29] <Magiobiwan> WHO KNEW that glass breaks when its dropped
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Magiobiwan, :)
[04:33] <Bjizzle> I'm so frustrated right now.
[04:33] <Bjizzle> I cant install nvidia drivers. It says building kernel module failed
[04:34] <mdev> try googling the errors and your distro version
[04:34] <DF3D2> Is there anyway to send an email when I get a specific pop up sent from DBUS ????
[04:34] <guest______> Where can I go to paste references of my terminal window so I can get help?
[04:34] <somsip> !paste | guest______
[04:36] <Guest93421> How to increase concurrent sessions in a remote desktop connection via xrdp
[04:38] <guest______> I don't understand what this is telling me.  Could somebody help?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748631/
[04:38] <Ben64> guest______: you have that package in the 32bit version and its conflicting with the one you're now trying to install
[04:39] <cfhowlett> guest______, the correct response is "d'oh!"
[04:39] <guest______> I installed from the Ubuntu Software Center the Linux Standard Base 4.0 Printing package.
[04:40] <guest______> Ben64, you are saying that the 32 bit version is currently installed?
[04:40] <guest______> If so, how do I remove it?
[04:40] <Ben64> guest______: thats what the error message you posted said
[04:42] <guest______> Ben64 - how do I remove the 32 bit version?
[04:42] <starks> hi, i'm a little confused about the EFI partition. if i am dual-booting, do i need to overwrite that partition or simply add to it? i want to remove all the clutter from it but not lose my windows 8.1 booting
[04:43] <Beldar> !uefi | starks
[04:44] <starks> i've been through that... it doesn't really explain how to perform maintenance on it or how to deal with reinstalls in a dual-boot scenario
[04:45] <Beldar> starks, Maintenance? It addresses dualboots.
[04:45] <Beldar> reinstalls of what?
[04:45] <Ben64> guest______: ubuntu software center
[04:47] <starks> Beldar, reinstalls of whatever linux distro i want
[04:47] <starks> should the parition be formatted (lose all boot entries?) or manually cleaned without a format?
[04:47] <starks> because my refind/gummu/efistub is a complete mess
[04:47] <Beldar> starks, Some linux have the uefi shim some don't, if you have another OS than ubuntu in mind you would want to confer with them is all.
[04:47] <starks> but i cannot afford to lose my windows efi
[04:48] <Stratum> Is there an easy way to remove unity and replace it with standard GNOME 3?
[04:48] <xangua> !nounity | Stratum
[04:48] <Beldar> starks, You should have the pertinent W8 partitions imaged/cloned if you want to be sure to be safe.
[04:49] <Stratum> Thanks, xangua
[04:49] <FireBeyond> I'm trying to set up a mirror using apt-mirror. Despite using 'set defaultarch i386' in mirror.list (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748650/) - I'm only getting 64 bit bins (i'm using deb and deb-amd64).
[04:49] <starks> is it simply enough to save the windows efi file? would a startup repair restore it?
[04:49] <Beldar> Stratum, unity run on top of gnome 3, you can just install the gnome-shell for the gnome 3 desktop, unity is tiny, not worth removing.
[04:50] <Beldar> runs*
[04:50] <Stratum> I don't like it though.
[04:50] <Stratum> It looks like shit.
[04:50] <Stratum> AHHHH
[04:50] <FloodBot1> Stratum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <Stratum> I didn't meant that.
[04:50] <Stratum> It's displeasing to my eye. :P
[04:51] <Beldar> starks, I would not rely on the reload partition on the HD, I would clone all the windows partitions.
[04:51] <starks> hmmm
[04:52] <Beldar> starks, You want to be prepared for any scenario
[04:54] <Beldar> starks, Chances are you can get a OEM disc set from the manufacture at a low price, mine was 30$ US for W7, that is another protection, and then just do backups.
[04:54] <starks> thanks
[04:55] <Beldar> I like clones myself it's a fast fix in any case
[04:55] <HDRDanny> !nounity
[04:59] <HDRDanny> So, what do I do after that?
[04:59] <HDRDanny> Will it remove Unity?
[05:02] <xangua> HDRDanny: no, why are you so obsessed about it¿ If you don't want a trace of unity download and install ubuntu gnome
[05:02] <Bashing-om> HDRDanny: You should not remove unity, just do not use it, chsose a differrent DE at login.
[05:02] <Temper> i have a script in /etc/init.d that works from sudo service scriptname start.. but it doesn't run on boot, why?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> *choose
[05:03] <Temper> there are symlinks in rc2.d - rc5.d...
[05:05] <Temper> nothing?
[05:09] <Temper> what really doesn't make sense is if i init 1 then init 5 the script runs
[05:10] <Guest93421> how to change root password in ubuntu
[05:10] <somsip> !root | Guest93421
[05:10] <Temper> sudo passwd root
[05:10] <Temper> or just sudo su -
[05:10] <Temper> to be root
[05:11] <Guest93421> Temper, how to change sudo password...
[05:11] <Temper> lol
[05:12] <Temper> the sudo password is the password of the logged in use
[05:12] <Temper> err user
[05:12] <somsip> Guest93421: you shouldn't be using it
[05:12] <Guest93421> ok
[05:12] <somsip> Guest93421: can you explain why you think you need to use it?
[05:12] <Temper> yeah.. stay away from the console..
[05:14] <Guest93421> somsip, I created user account siva.which i am using now.the password is very weak now i want to change the password....siva is root ..how to change passwd
[05:14] <somsip> Guest93421: passwd
[05:14] <Temper> siva is not root
[05:14] <Temper> siva is siva
[05:14] <Temper> root is root..
[05:14] <Guest93421> Temper, then how to change password for siva
[05:14] <Temper> passwd
[05:14] <lucasredsn0w> Finally...I've done UEFI boot on my computer
[05:15] <Temper> lol in linux?
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> And with Ubuntu
[05:15] <Temper> sweet
[05:15] <somsip> Guest93421: Just type 'passwd' to change the password for the current user. You should not be giving a user root privs, but that's your call
[05:15] <Temper> how hard was that?
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> Temper: You see, it cost me nearly 2 weeks
[05:15] <Temper> lol
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> This machine is strange
[05:15] <Temper> my laptop has an option to only allow UEFI booting
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> But UEFI Ubuntu is a lot faster
[05:16] <lucasredsn0w> It cost 14 seconds on UEFI and 1 second on booting the OS
[05:16] <lucasredsn0w> costs
[05:16] <Guest93421> somsip, thank u
[05:16] <Temper> anyone know why this script doesn't run on boot? it works with "sudo service script start"
[05:16] <lucasredsn0w> Temper: Which one?
[05:16] <Temper> and the symlinks are in the rc3.d etc folders
[05:17] <Temper> its a script i made
[05:17] <Temper> it is designed to setup and format a ramdrive
[05:17] <Temper> but it just doesn't run
[05:17] <lazyg33k> hello everyone i need help
[05:17] <lazyg33k> i just download the new version v.13
[05:17] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: Tell us your problem
[05:18] <bsdbandit> has anyone got ubuntu configured to authenticate to active directory using kerobse ?
[05:18] <Temper> sudo service setupramdrive start works..
[05:18] <lucasredsn0w> Setup and format a ramdrive...
[05:18] <Beldar> !anyone | bsdbandit
[05:19] <Temper> !foobar | Beldar
[05:19] <lazyg33k> try to install it i  clik f1 to clik for spoken language and do install when i get to the screen it load till the screen begin to flash and just stay there
[05:19] <lazyg33k> it just don't load
[05:19] <Temper> crappy bot.. doesn't know what foobar is
[05:19] <Beldar> mmm mindless
[05:20] <Temper> foobar scripting...
[05:20] <lazyg33k> so i download the v.12 but till i got the same flashing screen
[05:20] <Temper> i still don't get why this script doesn't run..
[05:20] <waykool99> logged on Ubuntu Studio v13.10 64 bit. 2 questions... selected Gnome Classic GUI. the "old" 10.04, when you right clicked on taskbar, was Properties wText size, Arrows for sliding/hiding Taskbar. how/where is that feature in 13.10?
[05:20] <lucasredsn0w> I found nothing about kerobse
[05:21] <lucasredsn0w> waykool99: This seems could not happen in Unity 7 in default
[05:21] <lucasredsn0w> I means, without any tweaking
[05:22] <lucasredsn0w> mean
[05:23] <waykool99> 13.10 does occasionally come up with 'Unity' looking left toolbar.
[05:23] <lazyg33k> the 2 iso was download from the official mainsite and i try to install it via usb and dvd option someone have a idea why it won't install ?
[05:23] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: Please tell me how you boot them. UEFI or MBR+BIOS?
[05:24] <lazyg33k> what the diference ?
[05:24] <mynameisdeleted> so.. mir display
[05:24] <lazyg33k> i suposse is mbr+bios
[05:24] <Bending_Spoons> Hi everyone is there a place where non-technical people can go to give feedback?  I don't have Ubuntu installed but I'm interested in Ubuntu Touch.
[05:24] <mynameisdeleted> rumors are kubuntu is going with wayland stilll
[05:24] <mynameisdeleted> and that mesa wotn accept mir patches upstream
[05:25] <lazyg33k> maybe is because my laptop is amd cpu and gpu inside
[05:25] <somsip> mynameisdeleted: not really support issues. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:25] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: amd cpu and gpu means nothing
[05:26] <lazyg33k> ok good its not what i suposed then
[05:26] <lazyg33k> so when it get to the purple screen he bug there and do nothing
[05:26] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: Can you see GRUB boot menu?
[05:26] <Bashing-om> Bending_Spoons: register at:http://discourse.ubuntu.com/ They are very bif on touch.
[05:27] <lazyg33k> when i it f1 yes till he get battery state
[05:27] <somsip> !touch | Bending_Spoons
[05:27] <lazyg33k> then he became at the purple screeen and bug
[05:27] <lucasredsn0w> With something like "Try Ubuntu"
[05:27] <lucasredsn0w> You may press "E" to edit the command
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> And replace all "quiet splash" with "nomodeset", that's how I boot the LiveUSB and begin my installation
[05:28] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:28] <lazyg33k> so when i select laguage i it e key
[05:28] <lazyg33k> and enter quiet splash
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> Not there!
[05:28] <lazyg33k> ha ok
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> ...
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> When you see the GRUB menu
[05:29] <lazyg33k> the only grub menu i see is when i can hit windows 7 or ubuntu
[05:29] <lucasredsn0w> Right
[05:29] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:29] <lazyg33k> so i pres e there
[05:29] <Bending_Spoons> are those places where the people who are creating Ubuntu Touch go to read feedback?
[05:29] <lazyg33k> and enter that command
[05:29] <lucasredsn0w> not enter
[05:29] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:29] <somsip> Bending_Spoons: go to #ubuntu-touch for discussion
[05:30] <lucasredsn0w> Replace all "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"
[05:30] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:30] <lucasredsn0w> Just try it
[05:30] <lazyg33k> ok itry brb
[05:33] <RandomStrayCat> So I run memtest86+, then mid-test it'll kick me out/reboot and just sit on the intel motherboard splash screen
[05:33] <RandomStrayCat> Thoughts?
[05:34] <lucasredsn0w> Why do you run memtest86+?
[05:34] <lucasredsn0w> Any problem with your RAM?
[05:35] <lucasredsn0w> -_-# Strange problem
[05:36] <RandomStrayCat> Rebuilding an old system, just trouble shooting the whole thing
[05:41] <Bashing-om> Bending_Spoons: Discourse is frequented by many of the developers, lots of good info there.
[05:43] <Temper> so i have a script.. in /etc/init.d/ and I ran "update-rc.d script start 99 2 3 4 5 ." and "service script start" works exactly as i want it to.. so why doesn't the script run on boot?
[05:44] <BlueMint> Hi, I am needing a bit of help with the installation of ubuntu. I currently have about 1TB of data on my HDD that I want to install ubuntu onto, but during the installation it doesn't show that I have anything on it. Here is the fdisk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748830/
[05:47] <Beldar> BlueMint, Looks like a got, this a W8 dualboot?
[05:48] <Beldar> gpt*
[05:48] <BlueMint> Beldar: nah, no OS installed on it
[05:48] <BlueMint> Beldar: but there is W8 system files on there?
[05:48] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: I am not a windows expert, but, does not "HPFS" mean dynamic allocation, windows proprietary such that linux can not touch it (ubuntu is not presently installed !)
[05:49] <Beldar> BlueMint, Ah I missed the extended.
[05:49] <bsdbandit> i keep getting the following output from my lamp website �5.�Securit� how do i get rid of this
[05:49] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: yes windows did partition this drive, and no, ubuntu is not currently installed, live booting off a USB
[05:50] <somsip> bsdbandit: is this on ubuntu? If so, use paste.ubuntu.com and show the errors on there
[05:50] <bsdbandit> yes
[05:50] <bsdbandit> ok
[05:51] <Beldar> BlueMint, the hpfs does mean dynamic, ubuntu wont install on it.
[05:51] <BlueMint> Beldar: what am I to do to fix this then? ):
[05:52] <bsdbandit> this  is the issue i keep running into http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748855/
[05:52] <somsip> bsdbandit: and where is this output?
[05:52] <Beldar> BlueMint, Not sure, you would have to get rid of the dynamic, kinda out of the support here.
[05:52] <BlueMint> Beldar: damn okay. Thanks for your help though. This is going to be annoying to fix
[05:53] <bsdbandit> i keep getting those question marks
[05:53] <bsdbandit> with the outout of my website
[05:53] <somsip> bsdbandit: is that it? Nothing to do with ubuntu. Look up character encoding and HTML
[05:53] <bsdbandit> ok
[05:54] <bsdbandit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748863/
[06:01] <gregoryo> Hi all. On FreeBSD I can 'pkg_create -b' an old installed package (that is now unavailable from sources) into a tarball, then remove it and try out a newer version before removing it and reinstall the old (working) version with pkg_add. I'd like to do something like that on an old Ubuntu box. What are the relevant tools?
[06:04] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: I am aware that there is a means to change that HPFS partitioning back to basic, but there is some risk involved, Ya might look on ubuntuforums for a tutorial.
[06:05] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: the data on there is like 3 years worth of my projects and they're not backed up (they are the backup)
[06:06] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: so that might not be for me unfortuneately
[06:10] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: Sorry not to be able to offer a better solution, All I can say is look on the forum - others have the same problem
[06:10] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: don't be sorry, you've been very helpful :) Thanks
[06:10] <Foars> Selecting brasero to burn an ISO with, I get a "Size Estimation" dialogue box which reads: "Please wait until the estimation of the size is completed."/"All files need to be analysed to complete this operation." and has a progress bar with no progress. It's been sitting there for quite a while.
[06:12] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: \o/
[06:14] <waly_> hello guys I need some help
[06:15] <waly_> please read this, I link as I am having wifi problem
[06:15] <waly_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/405052/wifi-works-on-live-cd-but-not-when-i-boot-from-hd
[06:15] <waly_> wifi used to work through live cd but wouldn't work when I would install ubuntu to hd
[06:15] <waly_> but now it won't work in live cd either
[06:16] <Beldar> waly_, In the terminal run lspci, find the wifi hardware and post it to the channel.
[06:16] <waly_> hello beldar
[06:17] <waly_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
[06:18] <Beldar> waly_, Ah realtek, here are the threads on askubuntu. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8101E%2FRTL8102E
[06:19] <waly_> is it realtek or intel centrino wireless ?
[06:19] <Beldar> waly_, centrino is a name the realtek info in your thread is actually what it is, not an area I'm real up on however.
[06:21] <marandi> hi guys , i have Radeon HD 4550 graphic chipset , and ubuntu 13.10 wont recognize proper resolution for my monitor , i try to add resolution with xrandr command but when i restart machine , i got error and display would set on default 1024*768 px .. what should i do ?!
[06:21] <Beldar> waly_, It says realtek ethernet, I assume it is the same for wireless, lspci might confirm this.
[06:23] <waly_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
[06:23] <waly_> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[06:23] <waly_> that is what lspci shows
[06:23] <waly_> so what am I supposed to do there
[06:23] <waly_> I have been going at this for a while, like over 12 hours
[06:24] <Beldar> waly_, Take a look at this thread notice the helper, they are tops in this area, I would make a thread there as well, it appears the centrino is correct, my mistake. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941350
[06:25] <waly_> chili555 is answering my question on askubuntu right now
[06:25] <waly_> so hopefully he could help me fix it :)
[06:25] <Ben64> waly_: do you have a dual boot system
[06:25] <Beldar> waly_, Score, hehe
[06:27] <waly_> no
[06:27] <waly_> just ubuntu
[06:27] <waly_> I don't want to try windows anymore
[06:27] <waly_> I am done with that
[06:27] <waly_> I just want to get wifi working
[06:27] <waly_> wlan working
[06:28] <Ben64> well i'm asking because for whatever reason, my wireless doesn't work in ubuntu unless i start windows first, then reboot into ubuntu. something to do with the hardware switch recognition thingy
[06:31] <waly_> beldar the guy went ahead and downgraded his driver and that seemed to work
[06:31] <waly_> should I try to do the same
[06:33] <waly_> there doesn't seem to be any harm as I will be taking a backup
[06:34] <Beldar> waly_, I would follow the helper, not an area I know anything about.
[06:34] <waly_> i should be able to restore it then
[06:34] <waly_> aha ok
[06:34] <waly_> thanks beldar
[06:34] <waly_> the helper is currently answering my question
[06:36] <Beldar> no problem, hope you get it fixed
[06:41] <hpa620n> whoa this is cool
[06:42] <santosh> hi
[06:42] <dalit> when i open large sized pdf documents in DocumentViewer3.4.0 my whole system freezes. then i have to for restart of my computer
[06:42] <dalit> any help?
[06:42] <Guest78443> ??
[06:43] <dalit> when i open large sized pdf documents in DocumentViewer3.4.0 my whole system freezes. then i have to for restart of my computer
[06:43] <hpa620n> how large of a file are we talkin'?
[06:43] <FreezingCold> Any of you guys tried Ubuntu Advantage Desktop before? Thinking about getting it for my parents
[06:43] <dalit> can this be averded?
[06:43] <FreezingCold> dalit: Not a fix, but try using Firefox's pdf viewer
[06:43] <hpa620n> Nope.. Im still happy as a clam running Karmic :)))
[06:43] <FreezingCold> I find it great
[06:43] <dalit> 28 or 48 MB
[06:44] <dalit> FreezingCold : u mean i should view it with firefox web browser
[06:44] <Guest78443> some programs run when I boot my pc ... how do disable it?
[06:44] <hpa620n> does the same thing happen if you open/import pdfs into LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice?
[06:44] <FreezingCold> dalit: yeah, it has a .pdf viewer writer in javascript
[06:45] <Ben64> hpa620n: you shouldn't be. you haven't received a security update since April 2011
[06:45] <hpa620n> lol nothing is secure
[06:45] <Guest78443> http://askubuntu.com/questions/405157/some-programs-run-on-startup does anyone know how to disable it??
[06:45] <dalit> hpa620n : can we view pdf in libreoffice?
[06:45] <Ben64> hpa620n: especially your system
[06:46] <dalit> FreezingCold : i hope its stable
[06:46] <hpa620n> yes....libreoffice, which still runs under karmic, can natively open PDFs
[06:46] <\b> Hi, I'm wondering when Ubuntu downloads the updates during install, can I choose what server to download from before hand?
[06:46] <FreezingCold> dalit: it was for me
[06:46] <FreezingCold> hpa620n: I found it slow
[06:47] <hpa620n> i tell you, I've tried to implement image/.iso updates to newer versions of Ubuntu and have always had pblms...I found myself rolling back to Karmic and have just stayed there
[06:48] <Guest78443> dang!!
[06:48] <hpa620n> Ubuntu Karmic is faster than my triple boot into win98/winxp/win7
[06:48] <dalit> hpa620n : what filter selection should i use in libreoffice for opening pdf/
[06:49] <hpa620n> you dont need to choose a filter...with the latest version of libre, the import mechanism is built-in.
[06:50] <dalit> hpa620n : i tried to open it by double clicking and its still asking
[06:51] <hpa620n> ok Hold on
[06:51] <Ben64> hpa620n: you really should upgrade to something supported. like 12.04. it'll last until 2017
[06:51] <gregoryo> aptitude and dpkg -l both show a package installed that's a different version to what's actually installed. How do I resolve this?
[06:52] <Ben64> gregoryo: more likely that dpkg is correct
[06:52] <hpa620n> use LibreOffice Draw to view/open PDFs
[06:52] <dalit> ok
[06:52] <hpa620n> are you using 4.0.5.2 or later?
[06:53] <rww> gregoryo: or rather, why you you think aptitude is wrong?
[06:53] <rww> do you **
[06:53] <gregoryo> Ben64, rww: rdiff-backup (the software in question) fails to work across major versions, and 'rdiff-backup --version' shows the (old) version that I expect.
[06:54] <b7> Hello all. I have an ubuntu softraid, my drives become broken and has been replaced one by one. Now my system is unbootable. I had boot the rescue system, mounted my root partition on raid and chrooted to it and had seen that all the drives-related info is showing the old configuration and doesn't reflect the current. How could I fix it?
[06:54] <hpa620n> well Im thinking about it...but I wont do it until I get another 3TB drive and start a clean install
[06:54] <llutz> gregoryo: "which rdiff-backup"  shows what path?
[06:54] <gregoryo> /usr/bin/rdiff-backup
[06:55] <hpa620n> between my three systems, i have about 12 different harddrives :)
[06:55] <hpa620n> and a 3TB external storage backing every piece of software known to man :)
[06:56] <YellowGTO> Hey guys im having a weird issue. When I install software
[06:56] <YellowGTO> I can't tab to the Ok spot in the Eula
[06:58] <YellowGTO> I just get stuck at the EULA screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzc9n1070q6a8s6/Screenshot%202014-01-14%2001.57.44.png
[06:58] <hpa620n> Ben, how do you like 12.00 I've read the review but Im still in 'if it aint broke-dont-fix-it' mode.
[06:58] <YellowGTO> Everything else in the OS is responsive. The terminal window still scrolls up and down.
[07:00] <Guest84696> how can i download updated ubuntu without having to update it after installation?
[07:00] <Beldar> YellowGTO, I thought tab was it, I do it automatically but forget,try the left arrow and the space bar
[07:00] <Beldar> er right arrrow
[07:04] <YellowGTO> Beldar, no dice. Im just going to have to reboot I guess.
[07:04] <Oog> whats the easiest way to daemonize a program so that it runs when i logout and if it crashes it gets restarted automatically?
[07:04] <YellowGTO> My servers been running so long lol. Such a shame.
[07:06] <ryan_46> guest84696 Currently you can download 12.04.3  but 12.04.4 is due in the near future I think.
[07:10] <b7> Oh, I solved my problem. I had to reinstall the grub.
[07:10] <b7> Thanks everyone.
[07:11] <adwadwaw> Ugh this has never happened... I'm installing Ubuntu on someones laptop... all I have is the wallpaper at the installation screen... no gui...
[07:11] <adwadwaw> i guess there's no text installation like debian so i have no idea what's going on
[07:13] <YellowGTO> Beldar, works after reboot. Thanks for responding though ;)
[07:14] <Beldar> YellowGTO, Cool, no problem.
[07:28] <hcchen> I use Ubuntu about 3 times a year. Frustrated with the interface every time. I wish they never change the interface.
[07:29] <Ben64> you don't have to use unity
[07:31] <nearst> !lubuntu | hcchen
[07:32] <Temper> if i need a script to run right after luks encrypted partitions are setup in /dev/mapper/ where do I put the script?
[07:33] <hcchen> ubottu ,  thank you very much
[07:33] <hcchen> nearst : tks!
[07:34] <hcchen> wow! ubottu answered my question accurately, amazing. I'll try lubuntu, thansk.
[07:37] <b0x> gah ubuntu and nvidia really dont play nicely together
[07:41] <Foars> b0x: Nvidia's fault. I think.
[07:41] <b0x> well
[07:42] <b0x> also my laptops bluetooth nor wired ethernet work
[07:42] <b0x> so :/
[07:43] <b0x> just spent an hour odd attempting various nvidia driver installs, having them all fail, then trying to recooperate everything to get to a working desktop!
[07:43] <Foars> Well if everyone provided open source drivers...
[07:43] <b0x> i'd like reasonable multi monitor support
[07:43] <b0x> but alas
[08:02] <Oog> im using rails did foreman export upsart all is setup except when i start it, rails just reboots in a loop like there is no rails app there!
[08:02] <Oog> its like it isnt in the app folder
[08:02] <Oog> ideas?
[08:03] <Oog> it does su - myapp -c 'cd /home/dgobaud/SMTP Server/smtp_server;
[08:03] <Oog> so it is changing to the folder
[08:03] <somsip> Oog: sounds like you need rails support, rather than ubuntu support
[08:03] <Oog> im thinking its a path thing
[08:04] <Oog> related to the cd and su
[08:04] <Oog> hmm
[08:04] <somsip> Oog: well, you miss an apostrophe off what you pasted
[08:04] <Oog> exec su - myapp -c 'cd /home/myapp/SMTP Server/smtp_server; export PORT=5000; export RAILS_ENV=beta;  rails s -p 5000 >> /var/log/smtp-beta/web-beta-1.log 2>&1'
[08:05] <somsip> Oog: I'd still suggest #rails support
[08:06] <Oog> ok thanks
[08:17] <Oog> got it
[08:17] <Oog> somsip it was the spae in the folder
[08:18] <Oog> needed to escape it
[08:20] <StarSky> 0
[08:20] <somsip> Oog: ah yes
[08:30] <geirha> instead of   export A=1; export B=2; cmd   you can do   A=1 B=2 cmd
[08:40] <hcchen> using VMware 7 to install Ubuntu 13-10, blocked at "Kernel Panic Not Syncing Attempted To Kill The Idle Task"
[08:43] <hcchen> How to swith to use an older kernel? before "Kernel Panic Not Syncing Attempted To Kill The Idle Task" occurs? or how to reach to the Grub page?
[08:44] <hcchen> I tried to press 'Esc' , never worked.
[08:46] <Wug> hcchen: to get grub during boot I think you hold shift, not esc
[08:54] <hcchen> To get Grub during Ubuntu 13-10 32bits on VMware 7 virtual machine. press Esc doesn't work nor hold shift
[08:54] <hcchen> does it need a technique or timeing?
[08:57] <Beldar> hcchen, Have you changed the grub timeout?
[08:57] <Beldar> hcchen, If your holding the shift be sure it is at the correct point tapping it may be better as soon as you boot it.
[08:58] <Beldar> tapping repeatedly
[08:58] <Guest2244> I have a laptop with 1366 - 768 resolution, what would be a safe resolution for GRUB boot screen?
[08:59] <Beldar> Guest2244, run xrandr in the terminal and use the sizes there and find what yo9u like.
[09:00] <song_> hi, where should I put my export statements? thanks.
[09:01] <hcchen> I'll try tapping
[09:01] <geirha> song_: In ~/.profile
[09:01] <song_> geirha, thanks a lot. that file seems generated automatically. I will append to it.
[09:02] <Beldar> hcchen, Ubuntu will run better in a partition on the hd in the end, depends on what you use is really.
[09:02] <Beldar> your*
[09:03] <iwantoski> if I change the owner and group of a symbolic link made using "ln -s" I would change the owner:group of the original file, right?
[09:03] <geirha> iwantoski: right
[09:03] <iwantoski> How can I avoid that?
[09:04] <geirha> ownership and mode on a symbolic link are meaningless; they're never used for anything, so there's no point in changing them.
[09:04] <iwantoski> ah
[09:05] <iwantoski> how can I safely remove a symbolic link without touching the original file/folder? :)
[09:07] <ufk> iwantoksi: just rm the symbolic link
[09:07] <hcchen> Beldar: Yeah, I am really using the 'try without installing'  and it always 'Kernel Panic' on VMware 7 new virtual machine. Will try install . . .
[09:07] <ufk> iwantoksi: even if it's a directory, the link is a file so just rm path (not rm -rf)
[09:08] <iwantoski> ufk: makes perfect sense :) thanks.
[09:08] <ufk> :)
[09:09] <iwantoski> I "kind of" know about this, but I've never really don't this stuff in a production environment. A bit scared.
[09:09] <ufk> yeah everything done on production environment is scary! :)
[09:09] <Beldar> hcchen, I would check the md5sum on the ISO, never used vmware so not sure if this inherent with it however.
[09:11] <jlebrech> everytime I log in to precise i have to run arandr to enable multi monitor, is there a program i can install that'll do it automatically?
[09:16] <hcchen> Beldar : tks. install gets same problem. Check md5 is good idea!!
[09:20] <Guest2244> ah thanks Beldar
[09:20] <Beldar> no problem folks
[09:23] <john_rambo> Is it possible know if my system is secure using nmap if I have only 1 pc  ?
[09:26] <madhurjya> Hello!
[09:34] <gerryvdm> hey, i want to ensure the directory /var/run/php5-fpm/ exists when starting the service, I used to do this in the /etc/init.d/php5-fpm script, but what is the proper way of doing that now?
[09:36] <swaagie> so lately i've been seeing cryptswap1 messages, until now startup usually just resumed after a few seconds, perma hangs now :/ recreated swap and redid ecryptfs-setup-swap but that did not seem to resolve anything
[09:37] <apb1963> How can I update qt please?
[09:38] <swaagie> now I could be looking at a red herring and it being like graphic issues but seems akward
[09:39] <swaagie> time to kill splashscreen first
[09:47] <Guest2244> What is the name of the Screen that is Purple and says Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10 etc...is it called the Splash Screen?
[09:47] <lolcat> Guest2244: I belive so
[09:48] <Myrtti> Guest2244: before, during or after you log in?
[09:48] <lolcat> I have a werird problem with ubuntu
[09:48] <lolcat> Depending on what graphic driver I use, I have either the ubuntu image on my desktop or just plain black
[09:49] <Guest2244> after GRUB and before Log in there is the Purple screen with Ubuntu and version number after printed
[09:49] <kostkon> !plymouth
[09:49] <kostkon> Guest2244, ^^
[09:50] <voeic> I just found out about BIND, the DNS software. is this a safe one? wikipedia article refers to military funding and involvement in development. it also mentions earlier versions as very vulnerable
[09:51] <Myrtti> voeic: bind in ubuntu is often and quickly updated with security updates
[09:52] <lolcat> Myrtti: So is Oracle Java, still nobody would argue it is particularly secure.
[09:52] <Guest2244> Ubottu -  I got this output after trying your suggestion "There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth (providing /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth): /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth
[09:52] <Guest2244> Nothing to configure."
[09:52] <Myrtti> Guest2244: so you've not gotten new themes for it then
[09:52] <Myrtti> lolcat: but that's oracles job nowadays
[09:52] <lolcat> voeic: Most encryption and security stuff has some government involvement. If they use it themselves that may give you some confidence it is safe.
[09:52] <lolcat> Myrtti: Java was sold again?
[09:53] <Myrtti> lolcat: you said it yourself, Oracle Java
[09:53] <lolcat> Oh, I thought you meant it wasn't their job
[09:53] <Guest2244> I would like to change that screen to something interesting and I'd like to have a high resolution view of the verbose print during the boot up process.
[09:53] <kostkon> lolcat, oracle bought sun
[09:53] <YellowGTO> I thought that happened ages ago
[09:53] <Guest2244> No I dont think i've gotten any new themes
[09:54] <lolcat> kostkon: I am aware, that is why I sad Oracle Java and not Sun Java
[09:54] <Myrtti> Guest2244: well that's what you need to do then
[09:54] <kostkon> lolcat, indeed
[09:54] <voeic> lolcat, maybe that's why we have a problem called nsa today :)-- on the other hand, co-existence of military / darpa involvement and high vulnerability..hmm.
[09:54] <Guest2244> Can help me with that? the getting of new themes?
[09:54] <lolcat> Is ubuntu 13.10 broken because of the new graphic stuff? the x-server change or whatever?
[09:55] <lolcat> voeic: If NSA uses it, they must have some confidence in it.
[09:55] <lolcat> I am considering going back to 13.04
[09:56] <swaagie> solved my prob, cryptswap was red herring some lib update yesterday borked the ati drivers
[09:56] <lolcat> back to 12.04 I mea
[10:02] <Guest2244> I can use GRUB Customizer to change the boot sequence resolution to match my laptops screen?
[10:03] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> hi, all recently i did update , but now unnity is running in 2d mode only
[10:04] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> unity version is 5.20, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:04] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> kernel 3.8.0.35
[10:05] <Vneet> Guys need your help related Glusterfs security
[10:05] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Volume with password protected?
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> plus on unity when i type something in dash, it types, but navigation between icons, using arrow key doesnot work
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> how to solve that weird problem
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> i was thinking that update will
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> help me, it increased my problems
[10:11] <Vneet> ??
[10:11] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Volume with password protected?
[10:11] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Gluster Volume with password protected?
[10:11] <Guest41365> I would like to see the verbose boot up onscreen instead of the Purple screen with Ubuntu title and version text.  Can anyone help?
[10:13] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Gluster Volume with password protected?
[10:18] <voeic> lolcat, it is not a matter of whether they have confidence in it..besides, none of us (except the nsa employees here)  knows what nsa uses. sure not what we use. http://is.gd/IAympS
[10:21] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[10:21] <sdzr> hi
[10:22] <yellabs-r2> i have seen all these new cool "steam machines" , and it makes me think, are all of these machines actually compatible with ubuntu, so no hassle install ? out of the box linux machines ?
[10:22] <Guest41365> Just discovered the name of the the verbose output during Ubuntu Spash screen - Boot Messages
[10:23] <Guest41365> I want to increase the resolution to my monitors settings and have those Boot Messages displayed onscreen instead of the Purple Ubuntu title and version number.  Any help?
[10:24] <Myrtti> Guest41365: you can control that with the grub2 boot options, I can't remember which file to edit from the top of my head, but removing "quiet splash" from that file springs to mind
[10:25] <sdzr> dunno. i guess steambox is still quit different
[10:25] <Guest41365> yesI've just noticed the "quiet and splash" thanks
[10:26] <lolcat> yellabs-r2: It is just debian with a steam overlay
[10:26] <lolcat> yellabs-r2: you can download steamOS
[10:27] <gerep> Hello all.
[10:27] <gerep> Hello all. I have one HD with 3 partitions so it is sda1, sda2 and sda3. I have Windows on sda1 and sda2 was created by Windows. My linux is on sda3. I have a Erlang code that make some tests based on my HD UUID. What I don't get it that if I pass the UUID from sda3 (where I have linux and is current mounted) the tests fail but if I pass the UUID from sda1 (where I have Windows) and the tests pass. So, please, correct me if I'm wrong, the sda1 is the "real" HD U
[10:27] <yellabs-r2> yes i tried installing it, but needs eufi boot, wich my pc's do not have
[10:28] <hayig2000> hi guys, i 'm running lubuntu as guest inside windows host, should i install guest additions from package manager or from vbox website?
[10:30] <gerep> hayig2000 I'd install from vbox
[10:31] <k1l_> hayig2000: i had no problem with the ubuntu repos guest additions
[10:32] <hayig2000> ok thx
[10:34] <tripelb> 12.04 gnome-classic Where do I find Trash so I can empty it? How about the Help thing so I can ask questions about ubuntu? (like about emptying the trash)
[10:37] <k1l_> tripelb: open nautilus and look into the bookmarks bar on the left
[10:39] <Devil__> I got it to work!
[10:39] <Devil__> yay!
[10:39] <Devil__> Boot Messages up and running
[10:40] <Devil__> Sorry I just like to share my excitement now and then
[10:45] <Bombon> can some one help me with ubuntu hotspot making?
[10:46] <Bombon> i want to make my laptop a hotspot with wifi so that i can connect my android phone to my laptop wifi
[10:46] <Bombon> ?
[10:47] <joeri_> why would you want to do that?
[10:47] <Bombon> cuase i want to access internet from my android phone
[10:47] <joeri_> http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[10:48] <Bombon> joeri_ i am using portable ubuntu that works with windows xp
[10:48] <Bombon> i checked that , it doesnt work
[10:48] <joeri_> sorry, i never tried it
[10:48] <chemist^> hi everyone, i've just received some updates for BIND, but if i don't use my computer as a name server this is useless right? can i uninstall bind from my system without any issues?
[10:48] <joeri_> what is the issue you get?
[10:49] <Bombon> joeri_ i cant find wifi network adapter in my ubuntu
[10:49] <joeri_> do you have wifi on your laptop? is it enabled?
[10:49] <chemist^> Bombon, that's cause it's disabled
[10:50] <joeri_> or the wlan card is not supported by default...
[10:50] <Bombon> how to enable it
[10:50] <Bombon> how to make it supported
[10:50] <Bombon> tell me
[10:50] <chemist^> Bombon, reboot into windows if you have dual boot and enable it either with a hardware button on your laptop or whitin windows...then restart the computer back to ubuntu and it should work
[10:50] <joeri_> there is somewhere a button to enable it
[10:50] <k1l_> Bombon: please pastebin the output of "rfkill list"
[10:51] <Bombon> chemist^ im using windows nd ubuntu at same time.. im using portable ubuntu 8.04
[10:51] <Bombon> where u can run both os in same desktop
[10:51] <chemist^> what does that mean... virtual machine?
[10:51] <k1l_> Bombon: urgs, 8.04 is way too old
[10:52] <chemist^> i have no experience with that...but yes as k1l_ suggests...try installing a newer version, maybe the drivers are available in newer releases
[10:52] <k1l_> Bombon: 8.04 is from 2008 and the chances are high, that it will not support modern wifi chips
[10:52] <Bombon> u sure?
[10:52] <k1l_> i sure
[10:52] <k1l_> Bombon: besides 8.04 is not supported anymore
[10:53] <Bombon> so tell me how do i put whole new ubuntu in my 4 gb flash drive and run from flash drive
[10:53] <chemist^> !usb
[10:53] <chemist^> !usb | Bombon
[10:54] <chemist^> Bombon, see the second link, USB installation with persistence (so you can save files and configurations)
[10:54] <goog> How can I attempt to copy A to B with two requirements: 1) copy only if A exists, 2) always return exit status 0
[10:55] <Bombon> how do u open device manager in ubuntu
[10:55] <Bombon> from terminal
[10:55] <chemist^> Bombon you can type in lspci
[10:55] <chemist^> or lsusb for listing usb devices
[10:56] <chemist^> and lshw to display all hardware
[10:56] <chemist^> maybe you'll need to use the sudo command, not sure
[10:56] <Bombon> lsusb doesnt show anything
[10:57] <k1l_> Bombon: what are you trying to do now?
[10:57] <Bombon> im trying to check if my wifi chip is supported in this version of ubuntu
[10:57] <Bombon> cause u know it will take too much time to install a new ubuntu
[10:57] <chemist^> Bombon, lspci if you have an integrated wifi card
[10:57] <k1l_> lspci or lsusb should show it
[10:57] <Anonissimus> Having a permission issue it seems, I can read and write to a folder, however a service that is running under my account can not
[10:58] <chemist^> Bombon, it really doesn't take that long with newer installs
[10:58] <chemist^> Bombon, specially if you install it on a usb
[10:58] <k1l_> Bombon: but be aware, that 8.04 is way out of support. it has  huge security issues and doesnt get updates since some time
[10:58] <Bombon> k1l_ another problem is i use internet from a usb dongle device.. and that is not supported in ubuntu
[10:59] <Bombon> so u know im in complicated situation
[10:59] <chemist^> Anonissimus, a little more info please? :)
[10:59] <k1l_> Bombon: that is even more a reason for a newer ubuntu
[10:59] <chemist^> Bombon, definitely see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:00] <Anonissimus> chemist^: not too sure where to start, if a different user creates a folder then I do have sufficient permissions when accessing it through bash
[11:00] <Bombon> how big is the file
[11:00] <Anonissimus> however the service I run does not have sufficient access
[11:00] <chemist^> Bombon, it will take less time to install a new release of ubuntu to an USB then it is taking you to ask questions here :)
[11:01] <Anonissimus> when I chown to myself then the service can access it
[11:01] <Anonissimus> this is an indexer running on java
[11:01] <Anonissimus> for what that is worth
[11:01] <chemist^> Anonissimus, did you create the folder while being logged in as root?
[11:02] <Bombon> ok
[11:02] <Anonissimus> chemist^: no, folders were created by anotehr user on the system who is in the same groups as I am
[11:02] <kaczmar> hello guys i am new user of ubuntu and i have problem. i changed name of folder and my desktop now is my main folder
[11:02] <kaczmar> hot to change it back?
[11:02] <kaczmar> how*
[11:03] <chemist^> Anonissimus, well log in as root an change the permissions of that folder to your group
[11:03] <Anonissimus> chemist^: drwxrwsr-x 4 otheruser group1 is what I get for ls -lart
[11:03] <Anonissimus> I am in the same group
[11:03] <k1l_> chemist^: no login as root on ubuntu
[11:03] <k1l_> !root | chemist^
[11:04] <Anonissimus> also this is on an nfs mount
[11:04] <chemist^> k1l_, my english is not that good, i wanted to say you escalate your permissions... or how's it said :D
[11:05] <chemist^> but i don't know the exact words so i just say login as root :P
[11:05] <chemist^> kaczmar, why did you rename your home folder?
[11:05] <chemist^> :)
[11:06] <k1l_> well, login as root is worse. using sudo is better. but be aware not to use sudo in the wrong situations
[11:06] <kaczmar> it was mistake i was training my skill of terminal and mv command
[11:07] <nearst> !sudo | kaczmar
[11:07] <goog> Question: How do you copy or rsync by ignoring error and always return exit code 0?
[11:07] <sushant91265> ~sushant91265
[11:07] <sushant91265> new in ubuntu, how to install playLinux in ubuntu 12.04
[11:08] <kaczmar> so nobody will help me?
[11:08] <k1l_> !playonlinux | sushant91265
[11:08] <sushant91265> yes that what m trying
[11:08] <chemist^> kaczmar, have you tried renaming it back?
[11:08] <k1l_> kaczmar: what folder did you rename
[11:09] <k1l_> sushant91265: see http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[11:09] <kaczmar> yes i tried
[11:09] <chemist^> sushant91265, www.playonlinux.com
[11:09] <kaczmar> i rename it back
[11:09] <sushant91265> thanks but couldnt find usefull
[11:09] <kaczmar> folder of desktop
[11:09] <sushant91265> anyway thanks
[11:09] <chemist^> lol?
[11:10] <chemist^> he couldn't find it usefull to have instructions on how to install it on ubuntu :P
[11:10] <kaczmar> i dont know what in english is word but in polish is Pulpit
[11:10] <kaczmar> so i think it is Desktop
[11:10] <chemist^> we're not polish so...that doesn't really help
[11:11] <kaczmar> so it is folder of my main screen
[11:11] <Bombon> hey will ubuntu 13.04 live fit in my 4gb flash drive?
[11:11] <Bombon> chemist^ k1l_ ?
[11:12] <k1l_> kaczmar: does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/116276/how-to-set-the-desktop-to-home-desktop
[11:12] <chemist^> Bombon, yes
[11:12] <chemist^> Bombon, i would use 12.04 since it's LTS
[11:12] <k1l_> Bombon: go with 13.10
[11:12] <k1l_> Bombon: 13.04 loses support at end of january
[11:12] <Bombon> should i download 12.04
[11:12] <chemist^> kaczmar, first what you need to do is rename it back to exactly what it was
[11:12] <k1l_> or 12.04, which got support until 2017
[11:13] <Bombon> then 12.04
[11:13] <chemist^> kaczmar, then... try doing this: chown -R ${SUDO_USER}:${SUDO_USER} /home/<correct name>
[11:13] <chemist^> and:
[11:13] <chemist^> chmod 750 -R /home/<correct name>
[11:13] <k1l_> chemist^: no, he needs to set the config files, like stated in my link
[11:13] <chemist^> kaczmar, then try to reboot and see if your issue is gone
[11:14] <chemist^> k1l_, sorry did not see your post
[11:14] <kaczmar> yeah that is what i need. this link is correct
[11:14] <kaczmar> i hope it help
[11:14] <kaczmar> thank you
[11:14] <Bombon> its bigger and will take 3 fuken hours
[11:14] <chemist^> kaczmar, try it out and let us know :P
[11:15] <geirha> do NOT run   chmod 750 -R   on your homedir
[11:15] <kaczmar> ok i will come back here when i try
[11:15] <kaczmar> thanks anyway
 Bombon, i would use 12.04 since it's LTS
[11:16] <Calinou> outdated stuff
[11:16] <chemist^> ?
[11:16] <geirha> making all files in your homedir executable is crazy at best
[11:16] <chemist^> like what?
[11:16] <Calinou> almost all packages are outdated. the end
[11:17] <enchilado> Won't 14.04 be LTS?
[11:17] <k1l_> Calinou: you know about point releases and the enablement stack? and some packages get updates or are patched
[11:17] <chemist^> Calinou, i have no issues with what i use my desktop computer for...so it's not that much of a problem
[11:17] <k1l_> enchilado: it will be LTS
[11:18] <chemist^> and i believe it's not that much outdated
[11:18] <chemist^> i use 12.04.3 i believe
[11:18] <Calinou> k1l_, only kernel and web browser
[11:18] <Calinou> pretty much
[11:18] <Calinou> chemist^, 2 years is quite an eternity :P
[11:18] <k1l_> Calinou: not everyone needs the bleeding edge. just think about it
[11:19] <Calinou> suddenly: software developers whine at you for using outdated stuff.
[11:19] <Calinou> you end up not being able to use some software at all
[11:20] <chemist^> well maybe i don't need such software
[11:20] <chemist^> for what i need the ubuntu version i've got it's more than enough :)
[11:20] <k1l_> Calinou: you are overacting a lot
[11:20] <ikonia> what a surprise
[11:21] <chemist^> :) k1l_ he's scaring me :D is my ubuntu that much out of date? :)
[11:21] <ikonia> chemist^: there is no need to be concerned
[11:21] <ikonia> chemist^: do you actually have a problem with your current ubuntu 12.04 install ? or is this a new install ?
[11:22] <nearst> i still got my karmic running. no problem so far :P
[11:22] <chemist^> Calinou, lol...stop sending me private msgs
[11:22] <Calinou> that's EOL, nearst
[11:22] <chemist^> Calinou, i am not a LTS fanboy, as you assume
[11:22] <Calinou> chemist^, a notice then
[11:22] <chemist^> ikonia, no problems whatsoeverr
[11:23] <ikonia> chemist^: ok, so you're running 12.04
[11:23] <Tastkey> Hi guys. I have a problem: I'm trying to do rsync over ssh, but each time I use rsync I'm asked for the user-password even though I added the public-key into the "authorized_keys"-file on the source-system.
[11:23] <chemist^> 12.04.3 i believe
[11:23] <ikonia> chemist^: is that correct ?
[11:23] <chemist^> i don't know :P
[11:24] <chemist^> what's the terminal command for looking it up? can't remember
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: ok - lsb_release -a
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: lets see where you are and then hopefully remove any concerns you have or fix any real issues you may run into
[11:24] <chemist^> 12.04.4 LTS :P
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: fantastic, so you are totally up to date on the 12.04 release branch
[11:24] <chemist^> i have no issues...
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: in that case, sleep easy
[11:24] <chemist^> every hardware component i own works like it should
[11:25] <chemist^> and every software i try also...so no problems whatsoever
[11:25] <ikonia> chemist^: then use it with confidence, just keep up to date with when the support cycle for 12.04 ends and plan an upgrade/new install to the next supported release before then
[11:25] <chemist^> i would get the newest release installed if i didn't have a lot of stuff on my computer (unfinished music projects)
[11:26] <chemist^> that is mainly the reason i chose to use lts, so i'd get updates for a couple of years
[11:26] <ikonia> chemist^: then you have picked the right product - use it with confidence
[11:26] <chemist^> and wouldn't need to format my partition
[11:26] <Tastkey> Is there anyone who can help me?
[11:26] <lid6j86> i'm running xubuntu with multiple monitors.  I'm trying to set them up in the correct position but it's really difficult because all of the monitors have the same name, so i can't tell which monitor i'm trying to place the current one in relation to.  How can I change the name of each monitor to give them a unique identifier?
[11:27] <nearst> !ask | Tastkey
[11:27] <chemist^> ikonia, thank you very much for the info :)
[11:27] <ikonia> chemist^: no problem, sorry for the confusion earlier
[11:27] <chemist^> no problem :)
[11:29] <chemist^> Tastkey, you need to disable password authentication
[11:30] <chemist^> Tastkey, the file should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:30] <chemist^> there should be a line saying: PasswordAuthentication yes
[11:30] <chemist^> change that "yes" to "no"
[11:31] <repozitor> how to retrieve source code of ip command?
[11:31] <chemist^> also make sure you have this line: PubkeyAuthentication yes
[11:31] <chemist^> Tastkey and then reload your ssh
[11:31] <chemist^> Tastkey, like so: /etc/init.d/sshd reload
[11:32] <glitsj16> lid6j86: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html might be helpfull if you haven't seen it already
[11:33] <rcw2> i want to get built-essential package off a flash drive for a computer with no internet. this link is some years old: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3576/how-to-make-usb-drive-as-local-repository  is it easier to copy the contents of the install disk to the main harddrive and point there or go this other route with dpkg-scanpackages binary /dev/null | gzip -9c > binary/Packages.gz
[11:33] <rcw2> build-essential*
[11:33] <lid6j86> glitsj16, not having a problem extending, only with identifying the monitors.  i just need to change the names of each monitor so they have a unique identifier
[11:33] <lid6j86> glitsj16, problem is when i'm setting a monitor "above" "below" "left of" or "right of" another monitor, they all have the same name so it's impossible to know which one i'm setting it in relation to
[11:35] <rcw2> can i use 'deb file:/media/(drive name)
[11:35] <rcw2> '
[11:35] <glitsj16> lid6j86: i understand, but i don't know how to name them uniquely
[11:35] <lid6j86> glitsj16, i see, thanks
[11:36] <lid6j86> glitsj16, actually, that link might have given me an indirect answer... looks like arandr might help me graphically position them, appreciate the help
[11:38] <glitsj16> lid6j86: no problem, or you could use the graphics driver's native config tool to set things up, like nvidia-settings or the amd equivalent
[11:38] <lid6j86> glitsj16, running through virtual box, so i dont have that option
[11:45] <b0x> is there a good alternative to the unity sidebar?
[11:45] <b0x> with autohide
[11:46] <chemist^> b0x many
[11:47] <glitsj16> b0x: the unity launcher can also be set to autohide fyi
[11:50] <mat_64> Hi, I'm looking for a software tool to use my laptop, Ubuntu equipped, camera as barcode-/QRcode reader.
[11:52] <b0x> yeah ive got it on autohide
[11:52] <b0x> i just think its a bit tacky :p
[11:52] <b0x> any suggestions?
[11:58] <glitsj16> b0x: it's pretty much a personal preference, but i always liked cairo-dock
[11:59] <dr0p> hello, how can I determine time of establishing connection with address ? I don't want do get time of whole get request
[12:02] <Pici> dr0p: In regards to what?
[12:03] <Tastkey> Can someone explain me this problem: I've to connect to a server via ssh with the public-key of the user "user1". But When I do "sudo ssh -u 'user1'.." then I'm asked for the "user1"s password. How can I fix that?
[12:03] <glitsj16> mat_64: qtqr works with webcam, possibly others .. do a search in software center
[12:04] <Pici> Tastkey: Why are you ssh-ing using sudo? What are you trying to accomplish?
[12:05] <mat_64> glitsj16: I couldn't find any there, I will try qtqr
[12:05] <TheFuzzb_> Hi, I have an upstart script that won't run (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750052/), and in /var/log/upstart/app.log I get "not found fd/9: 11: /proc/self/fd/9"
[12:05] <dr0p> Pici, to test db. I want to check how many threads can establish connection to my db. I'm getting only 2connections /s to my MongodB (which is sick) and I can't find the reason.
[12:05] <TheFuzzb_> Has anybody seen this error and know what it means?
[12:06] <Tastkey> Pici: I'm doing "sudo myscript.sh" which then uses rsync which connects via ssh.
[12:06] <mat_64> glitsj16: will it also work for EAN barcodes?
[12:07] <Pici> Tastkey: you'd need user1's private key to exist in /root/.ssh then. You might need to specify the key explicitly using the -i argument as well.
[12:07] <glitsj16> mat_64: zbar-tools probably does those better, but is a commandline tool
[12:08] <Tastkey> Pici "-i" option doesn't help, as ssh asks for user1's password
[12:08] <glitsj16> mat_64: try i'd say, qtqr has very few dependencies so it shouldn't be hard to test and remove if it doesn't suit your needs
[12:09] <mat_64> glitsj16: tnx, if it doesn't do the job I will take an other look.
[12:10] <glitsj16> mat_64: no problem, there's always options in linux :)
[12:10] <Pici> Tastkey: So, you have a passwordless ssh key created and it doesn't seem to be working? Does it work properly if user1 tries to ssh into the server?
[12:11] <xreal> Is there a free SFTP v6 server for ubuntu?
[12:13] <chemist^> !sftp | xreal
[12:13] <xreal> !sshd
[12:13] <xreal> chemist^: so there is none ?
[12:14] <xreal> OpenSSH implents v3 only.
[12:14] <chemist^> i don't know honestly about v6, never used it
[12:14] <xreal> it is REALL interesting.
[12:14] <xreal> really*
[12:14] <chemist^> why
[12:14] <xreal> ah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_SSH_servers
[12:15] <xreal> chemist^: http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/sftp/sftpversions.html
[12:15] <newuser> hey guys please tell me pdf to word converter for ubuntu :)
[12:16] <Tastkey> Pici: Yes, when user1 tries to connect it works perfectly.
[12:16] <chemist^> xreal, well ok, i don't need all that stuff
[12:16] <xreal> chemist^: separate ACCESSTIME and MODIFYTIME is great.
[12:17] <chemist^> newuser you could do that on google docs
[12:17] <p2ivate> should there be a system tray in ubuntu 13.10
[12:17] <glitsj16> xreal: there's gesftpserver, still considered experimental but offers v6 ...
[12:17] <p2ivate> skype is active but i cant access it
[12:17] <Pici> xreal: Oddly enough, I think you're right.
[12:17] <p2ivate> ./find it
[12:17] <chemist^> p2ivate, just type skype in your dash/home
[12:18] <newuser> chemist^:ok ty :)
[12:18] <chemist^> p2ivate, do you use unity?
[12:18] <xreal> glitsj16: experimental? v6 has been relesed 2006 :)
[12:18] <p2ivate> chemist^, i dont know
[12:18] <p2ivate> chemist^, dash only lets me open another instance
[12:18] <chemist^> p2ivate, do you have that panel on the left of your screen?
[12:18] <p2ivate> yeah
[12:18] <glitsj16> xreal: that's what the package info says in the regular repos ... PPA might offer later versions
[12:18] <p2ivate> chemist^, yeah
[12:19] <chemist^> p2ivate, then you should see the icon of skype there... if it's running
[12:19] <xreal> glitsj16: but thanks :)
[12:19] <p2ivate> chemist^, hmmm it isn't : / but it should be because im getting bottom right notifications from skype
[12:20] <glitsj16> xreal: you're welcome
[12:20] <chemist^> p2ivate, http://askubuntu.com/questions/293674/tray-icons-in-unity-in-13-04
[12:21] <chemist^> p2ivate, you could either do it with a terminal command: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[12:21] <chemist^> to show all the systray icons
[12:22] <Pici> Tastkey: That should work...
[12:22] <chemist^> or use a GUI that helps you select which ones you want the tray to show... it's called dconf-tools
[12:22] <chemist^> p2ivate
[12:22] <fishcooker> i have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line ?
[12:22] <p2ivate> chemist^, ok
[12:23] <Tastkey> Pici: The problem is that the shellscript is executed as root.
[12:23] <Pici> Tastkey: Does it need to be?
[12:23] <Tastkey> Pici: yes
[12:23] <chemist^> p2ivate try the command i pasted to you and tell me if it works
[12:23] <fishcooker> how to do that.. or should i convert it to pdf first?
[12:23] <chemist^> p2ivate, the command is: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[12:24] <Tastkey> Pici: The shellscript is executed as root and "sudo -u 'user'" doesn't solve the problem. So I'm really lost.
[12:24] <p2ivate> chemist^, No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.Panel'
[12:25] <chemist^> p2ivate: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[12:25] <Pici> Tastkey: I just tested it myself localaly and I didn't have any problems.  You used the -i argument to ssh right? not to sudo.
[12:25] <glitsj16> chemist^: p2ivate: 13.10 took that option away .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/362135/how-to-re-enable-tray-icons-for-applications-in-ubuntu-13-10 has more info
[12:25] <chemist^> oh ok, did not know that, sorry... p2ivate check you glitsj16's link
[12:26] <glitsj16> chemist^: quite allright
[12:26] <Tastkey> I used "sudo rsync -avzue ssh -i /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa.pub". I'm always asked for user1's password.
[12:27] <TJ-> Tastkey: Loose the ".pub" suffix ... you need the private key, not the public
[12:27] <Pici> TJ-: nice catch
[12:27] <TJ-> Pici: Been there, done that :p
[12:27] <Tastkey> TJ-: then I get the error "rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1232) [sender=3.0.9]"
[12:29] <chemist^> Tastkey, and i told you to look at your ssh config file ... it must have the line "PasswordAuthentication no" and "PubkeyAuthentication yes" ... then reload your sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[12:29] <chemist^> have you tried looking into that?
[12:29] <fishcooker> i have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line .. should i convert to pdf first?
[12:30] <Pici> chemist^: it doesn't need that for key based auth to work.
[12:31] <chemist^> Pici, shouldn't he disable the password auth?
[12:31] <chemist^> Pici, i thought his issue was that it was still asking him for a password
[12:31] <chemist^> instead of just auth with the key
[12:32] <TJ-> Tastkey: I assume there are additional arguments on that command-line - the source and destination paths?
[12:32] <Tastkey> chemist^: Yeah you're right. It asks me for password, instead of the existing key.
[12:32] <Pici> chemist^: The problem is that it was asking for a password instead of asking for key password.  Keys should have priority over user passwords.
[12:32] <TJ-> chemist^: There will be a password prompt (unless passwords are disabled) if all keys fail
[12:33] <TJ-> chemist^: You can see the sequence using "ssh -vvv ...."
[12:33] <chemist^> so there's something wrong with his keys?
[12:33] <TJ-> chemist^: No... there's something wrong on the final command-line, which we need to see
[12:33] <chemist^> :)
[12:33] <Tastkey> TJ-: ok. I'm posting it. wait a second please
[12:34] <TJ-> Tastkey: Are there env vars on the line? If so prefix the line with "eval" - as in  "eval rsync ..."
[12:34] <WhatDoIDoNow> What's going to happen if I type:
[12:34] <WhatDoIDoNow> cd /; sudo find -type f -exec shred -fzu '{}' \;
[12:34] <WhatDoIDoNow> ?
[12:35] <Tastkey> sudo rsync -avzue ssh -i /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa user1@server:/home/user1/new_projects/install_puppetmaster/install_puppetmaster_step1.sh /home/user1/install_puppetmaster_step1.sh
[12:36] <TJ-> Tastkey: You can't use "...ssh -i path ..." on the rsync command-line... "-i" is an rsync option and being interpreted thus
[12:36] <Pici> WhatDoIDoNow: It will attempt to shred (read: delete) every file under /.
[12:37] <Tastkey> TJ-: But I've to use that public key in order to connect to the server. So what sould I do?
[12:37] <TJ-> You add an entry into root's "/root/.ssh/config"
[12:37] <Tastkey> TJ-: Do you mean the private and public-key?
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tastkey: maybe add -- before ssh if rsync accepts that?
[12:38] <WhatDoIDoNow> Pici: Ah. So I guess I'd better not type it, right?
[12:38] <Tastkey> hitsujiTMO: It doesn't accept that.
[12:38] <AlexDSX> Hey, can anyone recommend a good UK hosting company?
[12:38] <Pici> WhatDoIDoNow: I wouldn't,.
[12:38] <TJ-> Tastkey: Add something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750217/
[12:38] <Pici> AlexDSX: Probably someone in #ubuntu-uk
[12:38] <WhatDoIDoNow> k
[12:38] <k1l_> AlexDSX: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <AlexDSX> Thank you. :)
[12:39] <WhatDoIDoNow> thx
[12:39] <Tastkey> Ok. I'm trying now.
[12:40] <TJ-> AlexDSX: depends on what kind of hosting; Linode have a London presence
[12:43] <Tastkey> TJ-: I'm still asked for the password for the private key
[12:44] <greenDaron> Cześć wszystkim ;)
[12:44] <TJ-> Tastkey: password "for" the private key? or password *instead* of the private key?
[12:45] <Tastkey> TJ-: I'm asked for the "passphrase" for id_rsa (private-key)
[12:46] <TJ-> Tastkey: have you published user1's public key to the server's user1 account?
[12:46] <k1l_> !cz | greenDaron
[12:47] <Tastkey> Yes I did.
[12:47] <Pici> Tastkey: That sounds normal. What were you expecting?
[12:47] <TJ-> Tastkey: OK... so give it... if you want that not to happen you'll have to remove the passphrase from that key, or else create an additional key just for this rsync job
[12:47] <k1l_> !pl | greenDaron sorry
[12:49] <Bombon> do u ppl speak polish here
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> !pl | Bombon
[12:50] <greenDaron> xD
[12:52] <Bombon> my ubuntu is still downloading
[12:52] <Bombon> holy catfish i live in Bangladesh
[12:53]  * TJ- thought it was the cattle that were holy?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Bombon, torrents are probably faster - and more reliable..
[12:54] <Bombon> im using idm
[12:54] <Bombon> i get the same speed
[12:55] <Bombon> i m stuck into xp, cause its super fast.. and i love ubuntu coz its good
[12:55] <Bombon> but i cant use ubuntu cause it makes my laptop slow
[12:55] <Bombon> :(
[12:55] <Bombon> the trade off is too much for me
[12:55] <Bombon> sigh
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Bombon, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for older / lower specification machines
[12:56] <Anonissimus> still stuck on my permission issue, whenever I do an ls of a symlinked folder I get permission denied
[12:56] <Anonissimus> even tho I have access to the path
[12:56] <ezra-s> Bombon, you can always use something else than default de if you feel the default is slow for you
[12:56] <fishcooker> i have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line .. should i convert to pdf first?
[12:56] <Anonissimus> and permissions on the symlink are 777
[12:56] <Bombon> yeah but they sucks big time
[12:57] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, permissions on a symlink are always 777
[12:57] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: then why do I get permission denied when doing ls symlink
[12:57] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, what's importat are the permissions to where the symlink points
[12:57] <enbergj> I'm trying to automate installation of some packages that seem to depend on postfix, when I run "apt-get install -y package" from inside a script it still gets stuck in some stupid postfix configuration screen, I can see the dialog in ps .. how do I really tell it to install with the default options when -y doesn't seem to be enough?
[12:58] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: well my user can do a symlink of the location where it points to
[12:58] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, an open bridge does not mean you can reach the other side if the other end is "closed"
[12:58] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, being able to make a symlink is one think, being able to go in there is different
[12:58] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, try to "cd" to the real dir
[12:58] <ezra-s> see if you can access
[12:59] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: works
[12:59] <Anonissimus> I can cd to the canonical path, but not to the symlink
[12:59] <Anonissimus> however if I create a symlink with my account that works fine
[12:59] <ezra-s> do ls -l of both
[13:00] <ezra-s> paste here or a sensible paste bin
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: pastebin ls -ld of both paths please
[13:00] <actionParsnip> enbergj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16225/how-can-i-accept-the-microsoft-eula-agreement-for-ttf-mscorefonts-installer   does that help
[13:01] <actionParsnip> enbergj: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12582097/automate-installation-using-bash-script-how-to-answer-dialogs-written-with-ncu
[13:03] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: ezra-s http://pastebin.com/QxJ4Xgmm
[13:04] <enbergj> thanks, that sort of helps .. the first one more specifically .. but it says -q helps, and then it says if running in scripts but then you need to pre-set the option .. and doesn't say how to figure out what the option is called
[13:05] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, type "id" and paste the result here
[13:07] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: uid=3254(anonissimus) gid=3254(anonissimus) groups=3254(anonissimus),117(admin),5110(testgroup),7010(group1)
[13:08] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, did you notice permissions for group1 are rws ?
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> ezra-s: g+s wouldn't prevent him from executing a dir
[13:14] <Anonissimus> so I need to unset that s?
[13:14] <hayig2000> hi there, Should i install vbox guest additions in a freshly installed guest ubuntu?
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: no dont. thats there for the group
[13:15] <k1l_> hayig2000: didnt we solve that issue already?
[13:15] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: ok, any suggestions on how to resolve this, I am stumped here
[13:16] <hayig2000> i dont understand
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: there's nothing obvious there. I'd presume its something else indirectly causing the issue
[13:16] <actionParsnip> hayig2000: if you need them, yes
[13:16] <k1l_> hayig2000: yes install that guest additions from the ubuntu repo
[13:16] <actionParsnip> hayig2000: if the OS is acting as needed, why fix it?
[13:17] <glitsj16> enbergj: http://xmodulo.com/2012/11/how-to-install-software-packages-in-non-interactive-batch-mode.html might be helpfull too
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: so ls -l /mnt/folder1/140113-000020gm = permission denied right? is it the same with /mnt/folder1 ?
[13:18] <hayig2000> ok thanks
[13:18] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: correct , no I can ls /mnt/folder1
[13:18] <hayig2000> the OS IS acting as needed
[13:19] <actionParsnip> hayig2000: then no, I wouldn't bother. DOn't fix what ain't broke
[13:20] <hayig2000> ok
[13:20] <enbergj> glitsj16: thanks, based on these links I've now got "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y -q package" .. hope that is enough
[13:21] <T4b> That stupid journaling process (jbd2/sde2-8) was working yesterday before I went to bed, in the morning when I woke up and now after I've gotten home from work it's still torturing my ext4 / hard drive. I don't know whether it was working all the time in between, but I assume so. This can't be normal, can it?
[13:21] <TJ-> Anonissimus: As the paths are prefixed "/mnt/" can we assume these are mounted file-systems, possibly NFS?
[13:21] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: /mnt/folder2 is an nfs share if that matter?
[13:21] <Anonissimus> TJ you read my mind
[13:21] <TJ-> Anonissimus: There you go then; its the NFS permissions on the share
[13:22] <Anonissimus> ok, so I need to have nfs permissions?
[13:22] <glitsj16> enbergj: no problem, you might want to confirm in #ubuntu-server
[13:22] <Anonissimus> is there a way I can map nfs permissions to a local account?
[13:22] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody use the openchrome driver? the latest available in ubuntu 13.10 produces a error and black screen + the offical openchrome homepage is damaged http://www.openchrome.org/
[13:23] <TJ-> Anonissimus: ensure "/etc/idmap.conf" is configured correctly on the client... but mostly its a case of setting the correct NFS export options in the target's "/etc/exports"
[13:23] <actionParsnip> gregor3005: the only way I have seen those work is to use an xorg.conf file (old school)
[13:24] <Anonissimus> TJ-: no /etc/exports
[13:24] <geirha> Anonissimus: /etc/exports is on the nfs server side
[13:25] <Anonissimus> my bad
[13:25] <TJ-> Anonissimus: Well, the "target" is the NFS server
[13:25] <Anonissimus> that is out of my control
[13:25] <gregor3005> actionParsnip: ah that can be a solution. thx i forget that xorg.conf :-) maybe because i have to much bad dreams the last years with xorg.conf
[13:25] <mammuth> #kubuntu
[13:25] <Anonissimus> if I change the ownership of any file to my account I do have access
[13:26] <Anonissimus> it would be a workable workaround to on symlink creation just chown to my account
[13:26] <Anonissimus> any suggestions on how to achieve this?
[13:26] <actionParsnip> gregor3005: its a painful time, but nice when you get it right :)
[13:31] <Anonissimus> TJ-: any feedback on that?
[13:32] <TJ-> Anonissimus: Yes - delve into the horrors of NFS uid handling :D
[13:33] <Anonissimus> TJ-: I will leave that to the pro's in charge of the nfs part, I just need this to work ... badly
[13:44] <T0rFect> hi
[13:45] <T0rFect> -_-
[13:50] <geppo> hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> geppo, greetings
[13:52] <tim__^> Hi all, can't seem to login anymore. Got an apparmor message: http://pastebin.com/QcESQnp5
[13:53] <root____> oi
[13:53] <root____> hi
[13:53] <root____> hi
[13:53] <FloodBot1> root____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <k1l_> !rootirc > root____
[13:53] <geppo> Updating ubuntu 12.04 , I get the signal;come eliniare W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch  ( how to eliminate it?  )
[13:55] <pkillpeers> hey guys, need a reccomenation. a twitter client that supports lists?
[13:55] <pkillpeers> tried turpial and polly. cant seem to find any option to show lists
[13:56] <geppo> Updating ubuntu 12.04 , I get the signal;come eliniare W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch  ( how to eliminate it?
[13:58] <pkillpeers> geppo , have you tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997508
[13:59] <geppo> pkillpeers,  helli
[14:00] <geppo> pkillpeers,   I try now
[14:07] <geppo> pkillpeers,    thanks solved
[14:07] <geppo> pkillpeers,   thanks solved
[14:09] <pkillpeers> :)
[14:15] <renan_saddam> I am running PHP 5.5.7 installed on Ubuntu 12.04 with ondrej/php5 PPA. When I do `service php5-fpm reload` it kills the master proccess but leave child processes running. Consecutive calls to reload says "Unknown instance". Then I have to manually kill chil proccesses to be able to start again. Any ideas how to solve this?
[14:17] <renan_saddam> Seems like updating to upstart 1.5+ (implemented reload signal) should solve it.
[14:19] <somsip> !ppa | renan_saddam
[14:23] <DEA7TH> After modifying fstab to give me permissions on my Windows 7 (NTFS) drive, the Windows doesn't work anymore
[14:24] <devbox> test
[14:24] <Blue_> Has the recent update for Ubuntu 10.04 caused network problems for anyone else but me? I thought maybe my netcard broke, so I tried two other netcards, but same problem.
[14:25] <Blue_> Then I tried booting from a DVD with Ubuntu 13.04, and network don't work there either. What do you think? Hardware problem, right?
[14:25] <renan_saddam> I am running Ubuntu 12.04, which has upstart 1.5. How safe would it be to upgrade upstart version to 1.11 (latest)?
[14:26] <actionParsnip> renan_saddam: a PPA maybe....
[14:26] <trijntje> devbox: looks like its working ;)
[14:26] <actionParsnip> BlueShark: possibly, try a non debian based distro to test, something like OpenSUSE etc....
[14:27] <trijntje> DEA7TH: you mean windows doesn't boot anymore? That can't be caused by fstab since thats not even used when you boot windows
[14:27] <renan_saddam> actionParsnip: Found one already (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart). But do you know if this package breaks any BC?
[14:28] <DEA7TH> trijntje: I changed the settings for the drive on which the Windows resides. Then I unmounted and remounted it
[14:28] <actionParsnip> renan_saddam: not sure, all I can say is take a snapshot or backup, then do it
[14:28] <devbox> trijntje: WHoo
[14:28] <DEA7TH> I remounted it under a different name and directory, if that matters
[14:28] <renan_saddam> thanks actionParsnip
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> renan_saddam: thats not a ppa
[14:29] <renan_saddam> hitsujiTMO: indeed wrong link. Should be this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~upstart-devel/+archive/upstart-daily-build
[14:29] <denker> hello, what is the command to change owner of a folder using uid?
[14:29] <devbox> I would like to setup a perminate device tree overlay. Is there anyone in here who could help ?
[14:29] <trijntje> DEA7TH: should'nt matter, but what do you mean with "the windows doesn't work anymore"
[14:30] <DEA7TH> trijntje: It doesn't load, just a blank desktop with a movable mouse pointer, clicking the mouse or keyboard doesn't do anything
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: """ I changed the settings for the drive on which the Windows resides.""" what exactly do you mean by this?
[14:31] <trijntje> DEA7TH: I'm sure thats not related to changing fstab in ubuntu, maybe you can ask for help in #windows
[14:32] <notwist> DEA7TH: unless you give a LOT more information containing specifics on what you've done, noone will be able to help you
[14:32] <mcc> how do u play games like starcraft
[14:32] <mcc> like from torrent
[14:33] <notwist> mcc: starcraft does not have a linux version.
[14:33] <DEA7TH> hitsujiTMO: I have two hard drives, one of them has Ubuntu 13, the other - Windows 7. I wanted to store stuff on the Windows drive because it has 2 TB space, but in order to execute stuff from there, I had to change fstab, unmount and re-mount
[14:33] <actionParsnip> renan_saddam: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=upstart    look in those, make sure you filter for your release
[14:33] <notwist> mcc: it might be possible to run through wine
[14:33] <mcc> kool
[14:33] <notwist> DEA7TH: You want to dual boot but still store stuff on the Windows drive?
[14:33] <DEA7TH> I also ran a .sh program from there, hopefully it wasn't doing anything which breaks NTFS or whatever
[14:34] <DEA7TH> notwist: yes, would that work?
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: ahh, just the mount options then. thats not going to effect windows at all. most likely you overwrote an important file
[14:34] <notwist> DEA7TH: mounting and unmounting shouldn't mess with Windows in any way, if Windows is suddenly not working something must have been deleted or modified on the Windows disk
[14:34] <DEA7TH> I also set chmod and chown for every single file on the Windows drive
[14:34] <actionParsnip> !appdb | mcc
[14:35] <notwist> DEA7TH: why?
[14:35] <mcc> k yall ill try wine
[14:35] <actionParsnip> DEA7TH: ntfs wont hold Linux permission, so it wont work
[14:35] <actionParsnip> DEA7TH: you need to set the permissions at mount time
[14:35] <DEA7TH> notwist: because I want to use it. Actually the only reason I have Windows is because I have 2 TB and Windows doesn't take that much
[14:35] <trijntje> DEA7TH: I'd guess the .sh you ran broke something
[14:36] <DEA7TH> actionParsnip: yeah I fixed that, it works now
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: sounds like you were trying to break windows then. the guys in ##windows should be able to help you
[14:38] <trijntje> DEA7TH: can you put the .sh you ran on pastebin.com, maybe if we can see what it did we know if it could have damaged windows
[14:38] <DEA7TH> trijntje: it was from a trusted source (RubyMine), anyway isn't everything supposed to work well with my setup?
[14:38] <notwist> DEA7TH: well there's always the option to not dual boot, other than that I agree this is a Windows issue and not related to Ubuntu
[14:38] <DEA7TH> it was the executable
[14:38] <notwist> DEA7TH: If I were you I would probably, to save time, format the entire disk, set up a partition with like 50 Gb for Windows, use the rest as EXT3 storage for Linux
[14:39] <ikonia> or ext4
[14:39] <notwist> DEA7TH: the best solution here depends on why you are dual booting and how frequently you will use each OS and for what
[14:39] <notwist> which is hard to know
[14:39] <ikonia> and I'd set a lot more than 50GB for a mordern windows OS
[14:39] <DEA7TH> notwist: I agree that my setup wasn't well thought out
[14:39] <notwist> ikonia: it depends on what you'll use it for
[14:39] <DEA7TH> notwist: would that work without touching the Ubuntu drive?
[14:39] <ikonia> not really, with service packs/base apps it will take more than 50GB
[14:40] <notwist> ikonia: you are wrong.
[14:40] <notwist> DEA7TH: well, as I understood it you have to physically separate drives, one for ubuntu and one for windows
[14:40] <notwist> DEA7TH: the bigger one (windows) could be cleaned out, set up with a smaller windows partition and a larger linux storage partition
[14:41] <DEA7TH> notwist: could this be done without formatting everything first?
[14:42] <notwist> DEA7TH: you already messed up your Windows install so if you're trying to salvage it I don't understand why
[14:42] <notwist> DEA7TH: just back up whatever files you need off the windows partition and reinstall it, it's the quickest way to make it work. While you're at it, I'm suggesting you look over how much space you're allocating to each OS because you might as well fix your partitions while you're at it
[14:45] <notwist> DEA7TH: why are you dual booting to begin with?
[14:46] <DEA7TH> notwist: because I need both Linux and Windows... ?
[14:46] <notwist> why
[14:46] <philinux> notwist;~ why not if it came with the machine. You've paid for it
[14:46] <DEA7TH> because I have 2 TB and don't expect to use more than 1 TB of it
[14:46] <notwist> what do you use linux for, what do you use windows for
[14:46] <notwist> why do you need both
[14:47] <DEA7TH> I need Linux for pretty much everything, and Windows in case I need to use something which isn't available for Linux
[14:47] <philinux> notwist;~ silverlight for one is a good reason
[14:47] <taifunorkan> how to install/configure/test vsftpd? Pls help
[14:47] <DEA7TH> such as .NET applications
[14:47] <notwist> DEA7TH: any reason why you can't run Windows in Virtualbox inside Linux, or vice versa?
[14:47] <DEA7TH> I still have two more laptops which run Windows, but they are much, much slower
[14:47] <DEA7TH> notwist: is it not inconvenient and slower?
[14:47] <taifunorkan> how to install/configure/test vsftpd? pls help
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: because he doesn't have a licence for that i would guess
[14:48] <notwist> DEA7TH: I'm writing to you from Xubuntu running in Virtualbox, it's not exactly slow
[14:48] <trijntje> taifunorkan: I'd say you'd be better of googling for that than asking here, unless you have a specific problem
[14:49] <notwist> DEA7TH: obviously it depends on why you use your OS's and for what. If you use Linux 90 % of the time and need Windows only now and then to test .NET or some other crap I don't see why Virtualbox wouldn't work, or if the stuff you do in Linux is very resource light (terminal stuff) you might as well run it in Virtualbox. The only reason you wouldn't want Linux in Virtualbox is if you want your system resources used as efficiently as possible, for Lin
[14:49] <notwist> DEA7TH: not to mention the fact that when you use Virtualbox you can switch between OS's without rebooting
[14:50] <notwist> Dual booting is almost never the best solution to running both Windows and Linux, especially not in the 90 % of cases where the use case is "I just want to learn Linux"
[14:50] <iwantoski> I use VirtualBox as containers for all different projects
[14:50] <iwantoski> (using Vagrant)
[14:51] <notwist> iwantoski: exactly. You can clone your test systems and modify them as well, another advantage over dual booting if your use case is trying stuff out
[14:51] <DEA7TH> notwist: hmmmm, can I play games via virtual Windows
[14:51] <notwist> DEA7TH: depends on the game but I wouldn't recommend it
[14:51] <notwist> DEA7TH: but why don't run Windows and then install Virtualbox with Linux? That's what I do, specifically because I want to run Windows games
[14:51] <iwantoski> DEA7TH: Vine is better than VirtualBox for games - however both are unstable and not recommended imo.
[14:52] <notwist> using two operating systems side by side on a work station is almost never the best solution, that's all I'm saying
[14:52] <notwist> non-virtualized, that is
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: just goin to mention again that he would have to fork out more money for a new licence for windows. If dual booting works for him, then don't get on his case about it. dual booting is perfectly acceptible in a lot of circumstances
[14:52] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: not if he runs Windows non-virtually
[14:53] <DEA7TH> notwist: I find Linux more convenient and need it to be fast
[14:54] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: also isn't OEM licenses hardware bound? Why would they care if he runs it virtually or not
[14:55] <notwist> DEA7TH: I run my virtual Xubuntu with 2 Gb of RAM and 64 Mb of Video memory, it runs as smoothly as I need it to. Unless you're doing something really heavy like 3D modelling I don't see the point of requiring Linux to be non-virtual
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: yes its bound to be directly run on the hardware. the licence doesn't allow it to be run in a vm
[14:55] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: all right, well as I said, I still think Windows with Virtualbox is a better setup than Windows and Linux dual booted for almost any use case
[14:56] <DEA7TH> notwist: I may eventually want to run applications which exploit the hardware to its fullest extent, such as machine learning or optimization algorithms
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> !wfm | notwist whats better for you isn't best for everyone else
[14:56] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: that way you don't mess with the license at all and there's only a small amount of cases where you would need Linux perfomance above what you can get virtually
[14:56] <notwist> lol, I'm not saying it's best for me
[14:57] <notwist> DEA7TH: sure, well again it's a question of what the performance gains are. I have a feeling they're fairly small.
[14:58] <notwist> Virtualbox for example allows you to set up a VM that essentially has access to all your system resources, all of your ram, all of your cores etc. Obviously Windows in between is a bottleneck but I can't imagine it's that bad.
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: again i'm going to say this. An OEM windows licence may NOT be used in a virtual machine, even if that VM is running on the original hardware.
[14:59] <notwist> again I'm going to say that I'm talking about running Linux in a virtual machine, so thanks
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: ahh sorry
[15:00] <jimi> My calculator app disappeared from the applications menu. Anyone know what the name of the exec for it is?
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> jimi: gnome-calculator
[15:00] <trijntje> notwist: anyway, normal ubuntu wont run nice at all with what you gave your xubuntu
[15:00] <bsdbandit> good morning aLl
[15:00] <bsdbandit> ALL
[15:00] <bsdbandit> all
[15:00] <notwist> trijntje: noone said it would
[15:01] <actionParsnip> jimi: or type the sum in to Google and use google calc
[15:01] <DEA7TH> notwist: I'd probably use the Windows very seldom
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: in that case, stick to dualbooting.
[15:01] <DEA7TH> hitsujiTMO: why not Windows under a VM?
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: because you'd have to buy a new copy of windows for the VM
[15:02] <notwist> DEA7TH: as hitsujiTMO your OEM license wouldn't allow it
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: if you wanted to spend more money on a new licence you could ofc
[15:03] <notwist> Dual booting is the only way to get the most out of both operating systems, but you can only run one at a time. If you run Linux virtually inside Windows, you can run both side by side but you have a slight loss of performance for Linux. To me, it's very unlikely you'll need the extra performance gain and you're likely to run into more issues ahead with partitioning and all that stuff, but in the end it's your decision, I'm not saying I know what's b
[15:04] <notwist> One example of an annoying issue is that if you install Windows cleanly and you already have Ubuntu installed, Windows will overwrite your MBR and Ubuntu will be "invisible" until you manually install GRUB again
[15:04] <actionParsnip> notwist: you can use a lighter DE to reduce impact on the host as well as speed up the VM
[15:04] <notwist> Moving partitions or resizing them is data loss roulette so that's another thing that makes me avoid it
[15:04] <taifunorkan> Still ftp to localhost problems. I purged and reinstalled vsftp http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293 But no connection ????
[15:04] <trijntje> notwist: that might be true for xubuntu, but ubuntu takes a noticable performance hit when run in a VM
[15:04] <jimi> hitsujiTMO, thanks, that is perfect. How can I add it back to the applications menu?
[15:05] <notwist> trijntje: xubuntu is still ubuntu, but with another desktop environment
[15:05] <notwist> trijntje: so "ubuntu" isn't slow in a VM, Unity is
[15:05] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: An OEM Windows  can be installed in VMs provided it has a separate license (different from the license used by a host OEM install)
[15:06] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: However, if the host OEM install is removed the host/hardware OEM license is OK
[15:06] <taifunorkan> vsftpd start/running, process 13034
[15:07] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: See for reference "Can I install OEM on a virtual machine (VMware) ?" at http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/Pages/support-faq.aspx#faq2
[15:07] <trijntje> notwist: just don't tell people you can run ubuntu in a VM without noticable performance loss when you know thats not the case
[15:08] <notwist> trijntje: the fact that someone uses ubuntu does not mean they are using unity
[15:08] <notwist> trijntje: I use ubuntu server on one of my boxes for example, that's still "ubuntu"
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: To be more specific, HIS OEM licence is bound to his hardware. If you purchase an OEM licence for a VM, the licence becomes bound to the visualised hardware. Yes you can use AN OEM licence, but not HIS licence
[15:09] <notwist> trijntje: so no, I wouldn't recommend anyone to run Ubuntu Desktop with Unity in Virtualbox, but running Ubuntu in general works just as well as running Debian or Arch Linux in a vm
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> virtualised*
[15:09] <trijntje> notwist: just try to be specific about what you mean when you are giving people advice, so people don't get the worng idea
[15:15] <actionParsnip> taifunorkan: can you not run SFTP? FTP is so archaic and not secure
[15:15] <rigo88> hi. i bought a simcard and a prepaid 1Gbyte internet on it. D1 network in germany the connection is 3g. it went fine for about 2-3 days. but it is annoying slow now. i cant do anything with it. what can cause the trouble? (no i havent used 1gb)
[15:15] <actionParsnip> rigo88: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:16] <DEA7TH> Can I split my HDD into two partitions (200 GB / 1800 GB) without formatting it if it has free space of 1900 GB?
[15:16] <actionParsnip> DEA7TH: you will need to resize the partitions, but yes
[15:16] <rigo88> uf. im not at home. but the system is an ubuntu 12.04 x64 afak..
[15:17] <notwist> DEA7TH: yep, but it's risky to resize partitions so backup anything you can't stand to lose
[15:17] <actionParsnip> rigo88: also run:  lsusb     and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[15:18] <rigo88> i have a built in 3g device. the laptop is an acer aspire one (pretty old stuff)
[15:18] <notwist> taifunorkan actionParsnip +1 for sftp if you have the option
[15:18] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Incorrect, the license goes with the hardware. See the MS Windows 7 OEM license, secetion 3d "Use with Virtualization Technologies. Instead of using the software directly on the licensed computer, you may install and use the software within only one virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system on the licensed computer."
[15:18] <actionParsnip> rigo88: it will still show there, you can then see if it's a known issue. There may also be ways to make it faster
[15:18] <notwist> TJ-: thanks for looking it up
[15:19] <rigo88> but it went just fine for a couple of days, what can cause the slowdown?
[15:19] <TJ-> And on that note... I have 2 huskies dragging me off into the fields!
[15:19] <mangoMan> EVERYONE SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT FAG METALEER HE IDLES IN ##PHYSICS AND #DEFOCUS HE IS A CANCER ON THIS FUCKING NETWORK dhdhh
[15:19] <mangoMan> EVERYONE SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT FAG METALEER HE IDLES IN ##PHYSICS AND #DEFOCUS HE IS A CANCER ON THIS FUCKING NETWORK srydtydth
[15:19] <taifunorkan> actionParsnip o i only need for local testing drupal webiste on my own
[15:19] <FloodBot1> mangoMan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <mangoMan> EVERYONE SEND A MESSAGE TO THAT FAG METALEER HE IDLES IN ##PHYSICS AND #DEFOCUS HE IS A CANCER ON THIS FUCKING NETWORK e5y5
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: my apologies then.
[15:20] <actionParsnip> rigo88: updates may change things
[15:20] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Not necessary... MS have changed the rules several times over the past couple of years... it is hard to keep up.
[15:20] <rigo88> was my first tought. did update & upgrade
[15:20] <rigo88> no luck
[15:21] <rigo88> is that possible that  after a couple of hours of 360 youtube the 1Gb is used?
[15:21] <trijntje> TJ-: thats nice to known, it might be easier to just put windows in a vm when I get a new pc rather then dualboot
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: yeah, used to work for a SBS partner, and things like that we got caught for with the licencing compliance
[15:22] <actionParsnip> rigo88: not sure, you could setup a logging system to see how much data is flowing to see what is used.
[15:22] <trijntje> rigo88: it wil take a lot less than that to use 1Gb when watching youtube
[15:23] <trijntje> rigo88: If the speed is just 100kbps, you can burn through 1GB internet in about 15 minutes, so you might be in for a high bill
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> rigo88: on a 25 min bus trip i can easily go thru 250mb of YT bandwidth
[15:23] <trijntje> I'd disable the dongle for now and contact your service provider
[15:23] <rigo88> gr8 :D
[15:24] <rigo88> prepaid... so if its 0 than it is 0.. not less. but thanks. i guess i used the 1gb.
[15:29] <rigo88> the guy in the next room has also the same card. id better try out his.. anyways thanks for the suggestions!
[15:29] <virhilo> anyone see anything wrong in these log files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/405269/ubuntu-13-10-freezes-on-loading-initial-ramdisk-when-build-in-graphics-card-is
[15:33] <Flezzyfire> hi guys
[15:33] <Flezzyfire> whd
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> virhilo: if you suspect plymouth to be the cause then remove 'splash' from the grub config and try again
[15:38] <jiffe> there any vulnerabilitiesin 12.04.2 ?
[15:38] <jiffe> looks like someone got in and rooted it
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: usually the user is the main vulnerability. How exactly have they rooted it?
[15:39] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: no clue, they've added users though
[15:40] <chemist^> lol :)
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: this a server or desktop?
[15:40] <jiffe> server
[15:40] <jiffe> ish
[15:40] <jiffe> running ubuntu server but not a production server
[15:40] <trijntje> jiffe: what users have they added? Programs can add users as well
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: is it directly on the net or behind a nat?
[15:40] <jiffe> no they added a user similar to an existing user
[15:41] <jiffe> its directly on the net
[15:41] <virhilo> hitsujiTMO: works without splash
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/passwd
[15:42] <virhilo> would like to report plymouth bug, but have no clue what to report as these logs look fine
[15:42] <fire> tool to burn iso image to usb, i just forgot it's name
[15:42] <fire> not dd, other one
[15:42] <virhilo> fire: why not dd?
[15:42] <fire> unetinstaller something like that
[15:42] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: why would I pastebin my etc/passwd? :)
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> virhilo: so it is indeed plymouth. report a bug attach the logs and someone should talk you thru how to get more info after that
[15:42] <jiffe> I've already removed the user
[15:43] <virhilo> hitsujiTMO: ok
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: ahh ok
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: when you say it was similar to an existing user, do you mean similar name?
[15:43] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: yes off my one letter
[15:43] <fire> ok remembered now, unetbootin
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: how do you authenticate exactly?
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: when sshing that is?
[15:44] <actionParsnip> fire: there is no 'burning' with USB, its a magnetic media
[15:44] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: what do you mean, I use password auth
[15:44] <actionParsnip> fire: you burn a CD as a more intense laser is used to write the data to the surface, then a less intense laser to read it
[15:45] <jiffe> they got in because of an insecure password
[15:45] <jiffe> I'm not sure how they got root though
[15:45] <fire> actionParsnip: ahh ok right
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: thats your vulnerability right there i suspect.
[15:45] <actionParsnip> fire: you can use unetbootin to transfer the data to the USB storage
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: look at you auth.log in /var/log
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: have you enabled root?
[15:46] <fire> actionParsnip: ok :)
[15:46] <llutz> jiffe: they got in using your insecure password and you are the sudo/admin user? isn't it obvious how they got root then?
[15:47] <jiffe> crap
[15:47] <jiffe> you're right
[15:47] <jiffe> I forgot about sudo
[15:47] <jiffe> that thing is horrible
[15:47] <llutz> jiffe: the admin is
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: also check: sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep root                           to see if they set a root password
[15:49] <llutz> poor little kitten...
[15:49] <jiffe> I'm going to tear this machine down and rebuild it, I was just worried he had taken advantage of an exploit
[15:49] <actionParsnip> jiffe: how is it horrible, it makes your OS a lot more secure
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: to be honest. since you've no absolute way of knowing what has been effected you should be scrapping this server and preparing it for a reinstall an harden up security. use ssh keys.
[15:49] <actionParsnip> jiffe: your OS runs as user, so the access applications have is limited = more secure
[15:50] <jiffe> applications run as their own user regardless of sudo
[15:50] <llutz> jiffe: use key-auth in future
[15:51] <actionParsnip> jiffe: yes but if you log in as root, or administrator in Windows, the apps run as admin too
[15:51] <actionParsnip> jiffe: its a good user model
[15:53] <llutz> until $hackz0r has the user-password
[15:53] <jiffe> actionParsnip: if you sudo exec an app it runs at root though no?
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: but requires a password... unless you disabled sudo asking for a password
[15:54] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: but if they've broken into my account via bruteforcing my password or by other means they have my password
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: yes, but thats why you use ssh keys. even if they break in they then need to figure out your password
[15:55] <llutz> jiffe: without sudo they would have brute-forced your root password, so what? _you_ are the weak-point in this chain
[15:56] <jiffe> llutz: the user is definetely at fault, however your root password is generally a lot more secure than your user password
[15:56] <llutz> jiffe: its not
[15:56] <jiffe> sure it is
[15:56] <jiffe> it should be
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: its only as secure as you make it
[15:57] <llutz> jiffe: "should be" yes, theory vs pracise
[15:57] <actionParsnip> jiffe: it runs as root, but uses the user's enviornment
[15:57] <chemist^> how do i install a mod .exe on a game installed with playonlinux?
[15:57] <actionParsnip> jiffe: there is no root pass in Ubuntu and the account is locked
[15:57] <jiffe> actionParsnip: all you need to do is sudo passwd root
[15:57] <actionParsnip> jiffe: the password for root is hashed, just like that of the other users
[15:58] <actionParsnip> jiffe: I know, but its not needed, or advised
[15:58] <jiffe> actionParsnip: I'm saying if they can sudo that's all the access they need
[15:58] <actionParsnip> jiffe: its disabled for a reason by developers and users who I am very sure know a hell of a lot more about Linux than you
[15:58] <jiffe> so if they have my user password they now have root
[15:58] <llutz> jiffe: if they can sudo, they don't need to set a root-password
[15:58] <jiffe> we're getting off my point
[15:59] <jiffe> with sudo you only need to brute force a user password
[15:59] <actionParsnip> jiffe: then that is unfortunate, no OS is 100% secure unless it is not on any network at all
[15:59] <actionParsnip> jiffe: its the same hash method for the root pass and user passwords
[15:59] <jiffe> say you have 10 sudo users, thats 10 times greater change of being able to break in
[15:59] <llutz> jiffe:1st: don't allow remote logins with password
[15:59] <actionParsnip> jiffe: they will also need to know the exact usernames
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: if you use ssh_keys and and enable the root user. they need to break the root account to get root access. if you use sshkeys and have an admin user, they need to get break into the user AND then bruteforce the password.
[16:00] <actionParsnip> jiffe: this is one of the many reasons root is disabled, as it is common on all nix boxes, so this is a definite username that will work
[16:00] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: never allow ssh in as root directly
[16:00] <devbox> Can I use chmod commands in an upstart script? I have a stubborn folder that wont mantain its permissions from one boot to the next.
[16:01] <actionParsnip> jiffe: they will not only need to brute force the password, but correctly guess a valid username, won't they?
[16:01] <jiffe> actionParsnip: and they did
[16:01] <actionParsnip> jiffe: again, its unfortunate but can happen
[16:01] <jiffe> I'm just saying none of this would have likely happened if sudo wasn't enabled on this user
[16:02] <jiffe> their password was insecure but the controlled root password wan't
[16:02] <actionParsnip> jiffe: it makes it harder by a lot but once you get some access you can start climbing up
[16:06] <yanki> hi, guys, someone can tell me how to add "SDL" library on linux?
[16:06] <actionParsnip> yanki: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:08] <lazyg33k> hi everyone i hae a question i just install ubuntu and i have a amd ati dual core with gpu integrate where i can install the driver for this one?
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[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> lazyg33k: what do you need the gpu for exactly?
[16:09] <lazyg33k> the display driver
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> lazyg33k: as in are you playing games or what?
[16:10] <lazyg33k> hitsujiTMO:  yes on steam
[16:10] <mauriciormj> hello, guys!
[16:10] <lazyg33k> hitsujiTMO:  like dota 2
[16:10] <actionParsnip> lazarus_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> lazyg33k: fglrx is the proprietary driver
[16:10] <mauriciormj> i would like to know some professional video editor
[16:10] <lazyg33k> hitsujiTMO:  ok
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> lazyg33k: i was asking as the open driver is generally preffered to the closed source driver
[16:11] <mauriciormj> for ubuntu
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> lazyg33k: it performs better for 2d acceleration
[16:11] <lazyg33k> hitsujiTMO:  ok because in my resolution its not the one its supose to be and it not write my gpu it said integrate grafic
[16:12] <lazyg33k> hitsujiTMO:  and linux display are really slow like when you not have install the driver in windows
[16:12] <yanki> actionParsnip : saucy
[16:13] <Guest71513> hi tried to install nvidia current and it screwed up my screen resolution - can only get 640x480 - removed it and it still is the same - any help would be greatly appreciated
[16:13] <actionParsnip> mauriciormj: lightworks has been part of Oscar winning films....
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> actionParsnip: gone a long time ago :)
[16:14] <actionParsnip> !find libsdl saucy | yanki
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> Guest71513: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:14] <actionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: bah
[16:16] <dennisxz> hello everyone
[16:17] <dennisxz> anyone here know how to decrypt sha-1?
[16:17] <Guest71513> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751195/
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> dennisxz: sha1 isn't an encryption its a one way hash
[16:17] <dennisxz> ok
[16:17] <dennisxz> sorry
[16:17] <k1l> dennisxz: what do you want to do anyway?
[16:18] <dennisxz> i'm studying sha-1
[16:18] <yanki> ubottu : thanks.
[16:18] <dennisxz> sorry i'm just a noob :)
[16:19] <Oog> i need to do add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/$nginx
[16:19] <Oog> but i like to use aptitude
[16:19] <Oog> does aptitude use apt respoitories?
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> Guest71513: dmesg | pastebinit
[16:19] <Munster> Guest71513, purge nvidia-current and use the nouveau driver
[16:19] <llutz> Oog: sure
[16:19] <trijntje> dennisxz: I'd start with wikipedia, it has quite an extensive article on sha1
[16:19] <genii> dennisxz: The usual method is brute-force. eg: you find the hash value of possible values and see if it equals the hash value you want to find the original value for.
[16:20] <Guest71513> Munster, how do I do that other than uninstall the nvidia driver
[16:20] <Guest71513>  dmesg | pastebinit
[16:20] <dennisxz> ok tnx genii and triknjte :)
[16:20] <CarlFK> how do I tell what dns servers are being used?
[16:20] <knightshade> hi
[16:20] <dennisxz> tnx for ur opinion
[16:20] <Munster> Guest71513, sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current, then reboot
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: nvidia-current is a meta-package. that wouldn't do anything
[16:21] <CarlFK> etc/resolve.conf says nameserver 127.0.1.1
[16:21] <Guest71513> hitsujiTMO, I don't understand the dmesg command
[16:21] <Munster> hitsujiTMO, it worked for me
[16:21] <actionParsnip> CarlFK: nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP4
[16:22] <trijntje> Guest71513: you have to put that in a terminal (ctrl + alt + t)
[16:22] <actionParsnip> CarlFK: assuming you are using eth0 as your interface
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> Guest71513: dmesg | pastebinit                        the | is part of the command
[16:24] <Munster> Guest71513, just to make sure, after purging , install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[16:24] <CarlFK> actionParsnip: yep - thanks
[16:25] <Guest71513> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751239/
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: might be a good idea to see what exactly is going wrong before suggesting a fix. his Xorg log cannot find the nvidia driver so it suggests its not installed
[16:25] <Oog> i did apt-add-repository but its not lsited in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:25] <Guest71513> Munster, thanks will try if nothing else
[16:25] <Oog> how do i get a list of active repositories?
[16:25] <actionParsnip> Oog: it is added as a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:25] <Oog> ah
[16:25] <Oog> ha
[16:25] <actionParsnip> Oog: helps keep things organised
[16:26] <CarlFK> Oog: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:26] <CarlFK> yeah, that.
[16:26] <Oog> thanks
[16:26] <Guest71513> HisaoNakai, did you see it ?
[16:26] <Oog> and aptitude uses this right?
[16:26] <actionParsnip> Oog: yeou are using 64bit OS I don't suggest aptitude
[16:26] <actionParsnip> yes, aptitude uses the same
[16:27] <Munster> hitsujiTMO, most users don't have an xorg.conf file
[16:27] <Oog> why is it bad for 64bit?
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: Xorg log not conf
[16:27] <llutz> Oog: there were some versions having problems with multiarch
[16:27] <Guest71513> going to purge and then reinstall nouveau be back for help or thanks :)
[16:28] <Munster> not talking about the log
[16:28] <actionParsnip> !aptitude
[16:28] <Pici> actionParsnip: that problem should be fixed.
[16:28] <actionParsnip> Oog: why do you think its not in a default install.....
[16:28] <actionParsnip> Pici: i'd not take any chances :)
[16:29] <Oog> actionParsnip: i think it was in my install... im using 13.10
[16:29] <actionParsnip> Oog: its not in a default install of Ubuntu
[16:30] <Oog> im using a linode server maybe they add it in by default
[16:30] <actionParsnip> Oog: maybe
[16:30] <zeer0> Testdisk/Photorec related question: My computer crashed during the process, is it safe to delete the recovery folders and start anew or does this risk the recovery of files?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: sorry but you're no longer making sense. what was your point?
[16:31] <actionParsnip> zeer0: the disk is only read, so should be ok to restart. Why do you not have a data backup if the data is worth expending effort to restore?
[16:32] <actionParsnip> zeer0: then you could just restore from the backup....right?
[16:32] <Munster> hitsujiTMO, don't be sorry, those commands worked for me on 2 nvidia linux pcs
[16:33] <TJ-> actionParsnip: Oog: aptitude is a "Suggests" of fai-server, which is used in VM deployments such as Linode
[16:33] <Guest75165> hi - same problem after reinstalled nouveau
[16:33] <lazyg33k> can we play steam game in ubuntu ?
[16:33] <Pici> !steam | lazyg33k
[16:33] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: yes there is a native client
[16:34] <Guest75165> getting only 640x480 and 73hz which is not right at all
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> !wfm | Munster its not sound advice to tell someone to do something without seeing what the problem is
[16:34] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  i install it but game will work ?
[16:34] <actionParsnip> Guest17428: did you try:  sudo NVidia-xconfig    after installing NVidia-current
[16:34] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: should do, yes. Assuming you have 3D acceleration in your video drivers etc
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> Guest75165: what exact gpu do you have?
[16:35] <Guest75165> actionParsnip, no - that probably would do it
[16:35] <Guest75165> hitsujiTMO, 650ti
[16:35] <actionParsnip> Guest17428: worth a shot, its easy to backpeda
[16:35] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  i play it in windows i hae a big computer its fine thanks
[16:35] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: means nothing at all
[16:35] <Munster> Guest75165, ok, there's a mesa-experimental app the works for dri and 3D, install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[16:35] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: if there is no 3D acceleration FOR UBUNTU, then games will not work
[16:36] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: what Windows does or doesn't do is of zero value, it is a totally different OS
[16:36] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  i c i just want to play dota 2
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: please refrain from giving out random advice without looking at what the problem is
[16:36] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: for example, You may be able to game on SiS or Chrome GPUs in Windows, but there is no 3D acceleration for them in Linux.
[16:37] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  ha ok
[16:37] <Munster> hitsujiTMO, I had the same problem , have you?
[16:37] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  but he surely have for nvidia video card
[16:37] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: yes if you have the proprietary video drivers installed it should be ok
[16:37] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  thanks ots apreciate
[16:38] <lazyg33k> its *
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> Guest75165: can you run: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[16:38] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: you'll have to check the Linux steam library to see if the game will run in Linux
[16:38] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  where is this list ?
[16:38] <Guest75165> hitsujiTMO, ok will do
[16:38] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dota&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=cr&ei=s2fVUvrHNoWBhAfS5oC4BA#q=dota+2+steam+linux&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-Address&safe=off      top link....
[16:38] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: took me what....5 seconds..
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: again: what worked for you may not work for him. It's best to look at the cause of thew problem rather take random guesses at what it is
[16:39] <Guest75165> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751325/
[16:39] <qkzoo1978> So I added a group dosbox and I added my username to it.  I then created a directory dosbox and gave the group dosbox ownership to it, but my user still cannot write to it, any tips?
[16:39] <actionParsnip> lazyg33k: ever tried that website, great for finding things....
[16:39] <somsip> qkzoo1978: did you logout and back in again after changing groups?
[16:39] <actionParsnip> qkzoo1978: what is the group owner of the folder?
[16:39] <lazyg33k> actionParsnip:  nice website ill keep it thanks
[16:40] <TJ-> qkzoo1978: changes in group membership require a new log-in session
[16:40] <notwist> qkzoo1978: someone will have to correct me if I'm wrong here but I don't think group ownership implies group read/write/execute access
[16:40] <qkzoo1978> somsip no I didn't
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> Guest75165: hmm, i wonder how the 173 got there: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173 && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[16:40] <actionParsnip> qkzoo1978: sounds like you didn't change the group owner, or its access. So you still have acces via the group
[16:40] <somsip> qkzoo1978: as others have said, you need to. Other permissions issues notwithstanding
[16:41] <qkzoo1978> how do I change group ownership?
[16:41] <Munster> hitsujiTMO, how do you know I didn;t experience the same resolution probs thay Guest75165 has, which in fact was the case.
[16:41] <Guest75165> actionParsnip, NVidia-xconfig is not found after installing nvidia-current
[16:41] <TJ-> qkzoo1978: You also need to ensure you did "chmod -R g+w $DIRNAME" if you want group members to be able to write to it and its children
[16:41] <qkzoo1978> TJ I did do that.
[16:41] <TJ-> qkzoo1978: OK ... so it sounds like a new log-in session is the answer
[16:42] <notwist> qkzoo1978: saying that "Group X owns folder Y" doesn't really help if the permissions are set so that the group cannot do what you want it to do, at least I think so
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> Munster: 2 completely different problems can have give the same appearance. The onlything common you're seeing is that it ran with the a resolution of 640x480.
[16:42] <Guest75165> hitsujiTMO, I tried that first - blank screen - used built in graphics and uninstalled that and installed current
[16:42] <qkzoo1978> notwist: Well, I set the directory in question to have wrx for user and group.
[16:43] <Munster> hitsujiTMO, well before t
[16:43] <notwist> chmod 777 is full access right, chmod 700 would be "user can do anything but deny groups and anyone else", so if you change the owner group that won't give you access if you have chmod 700 set
[16:43] <arthuur1> hi
[16:43] <notwist> I hope I didn't mess that up
[16:43] <qkzoo1978> I dunno, I get confused between 777 and wrx
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> Guest75165: yes the 173 is for the older cards. lets see if we can bring you back to an original state. sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-current nvidia-settings-304 && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[16:44] <notwist> qkzoo1978: those are the same. 666 is read/write but not execute
[16:44] <TJ-> Guest75165: When the correct resolution isn't found automatically that implies the GPU and/or driver were unable to read the EDID configuration from the monitor... EDID defines the valid frequencies the monitor can handle... without that, the driver will choose a safe low-resolution default.
[16:44] <arthuur1> why can't i send to the ##linux channel
[16:44] <qkzoo1978> I just want to add it so that users I add to the group have full read write access, so that I can share a universal dosbox c drive (i installed some games for the kiddies).
[16:45] <xangua> !register | arthuur1
[16:45] <somsip> qkzoo1978: make it chmod g+s. Tada
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: its loaded the fbdev driver for some odd reason and couldn't find the nvidia driver
[16:45] <somsip> qkzoo1978: and 770 or 775
[16:45] <qkzoo1978> somsip do I need -R?
[16:45] <notwist> qkzoo1978: yeah because -R is recursive otherwise it wont propagate
[16:45] <qkzoo1978> ok thanks notwist
[16:45] <notwist> qkzoo1978: also take extreme care when running the command
[16:45] <somsip> qkzoo1978: no as you want different permissions for files than dirs
[16:45] <notwist> you dont want to run it on / and mess up your whole file system
[16:46] <qkzoo1978> ok
[16:46] <somsip> qkzoo1978: find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 770; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 660 (from the folder you are changing, adapat as necessary)
[16:46] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: really? I saw the original dmesg output that showed nvidia and the vesafb were being loaded by the kernel (mine does that I have a custom grub command-line so I have TTYs and nvidia). Have I missed the Xorg.0.log being pastebinned?
[16:46] <notwist> somsip: what's wrong with just 770 recursively?
[16:46] <somsip> notwist: why add +x to non-executables?
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: yes that was a bit earlier
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751195/
[16:48] <bill_> hi - I removed nvidia 173 and nvidia current but it still is 640x480 when I reboot
[16:49] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: "(EE) [drm] KMS not enabled" ... that's a result of "nomodeset" isn't it?
[16:49] <qkzoo1978> thanks for help guys, gunna do  a reboot
[16:49] <sulivan> hi patterson
[16:49] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, anything else to do - still at 630x480
[16:50] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, and no nvidia drivers
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: not to worry, nouveau may still be blacklisted. cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: not to worry, nouveau may still be blacklisted. cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau
[16:50] <TJ-> bill_: Can you pastebin "cat /proc/cmdline"  too?
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: sorry use the second line^
[16:51] <manjunath> msg cool_bhavi
[16:52] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, blacklist nouveau
[16:52] <bill_> blacklist lbm-nouveau
[16:52] <bill_> alias nouveau off
[16:52] <bill_> alias lbm-nouveau offoptions vmwgfx enable_fbdev=1
[16:52] <bill_> sorry for lack of pastebin
[16:53] <TJ-> go2Sesame2
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: sudo sed -i 's/blacklist nouveau//' /etc/modprobe.d/*
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: actually sorry also: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/ | pastebinit
[16:55] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, done
[16:55] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751417/
[16:56] <CarlFK> is there a vlc-extras or something that has more video codacs?  ppa maybe?
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-304_hybrid.conf
[16:56] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, done
[16:56] <nattgal> Hi do some one here know how to boot ubuntu from a usb to instal it on a mac with snow leopard?
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: now: cat /proc/cmdline
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> !mac | nattgal
[16:58] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/SXt2DUJr
[16:59] <TJ-> bill_: thanks; that looks good
[16:59] <SURAJ> HI EVERYBODY
[17:00] <bill_> TJ-, hitsujiTMO should I reboot now and cross my fingers :)
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: for now we also need to add nomodeset for the nouveau driver. sudo sed -i 's/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"/' /etc/default/grub
[17:00] <bill_> done
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: then: sudo update-grub
[17:01] <glda19> hi
[17:01] <bill_> done
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: reboot and fingers crossed
[17:02] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, thanks - that was a bunch of stuff just because of trying to install nvidia - be back with comments
[17:03] <soulasassin> can anyone tell me how to customise the screen resolution for kubuntu when running it in virtualbox on a windows host?
[17:04] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, still the same
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: ok. lets look at the logs again: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit
[17:06] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751458/
[17:06] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751459/
[17:07] <Oog> after installing nginx how can i refresh the service list? servie start nginx says not found
[17:07] <Oog> nm
[17:08] <antonio__> .xchat2/budus.so
[17:08] <dms123> sooo, hey guys, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu (and irc too, btw) and I'm currently experiencing some problems with installing Ubuntu Desktop (13.10 I think) on my Netbook. The Installation just kind of freezes while running update-grub. Freezing meening it can still move around the mouse and klick stuff but the installation will neither fail nor continue. First attempts to google this weren't
[17:08] <dms123> successfull, so.. anybody able to help me with this?
[17:09] <antonio__>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[17:10] <actionParsnip> quiet today
[17:10] <antonio__> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[17:10] <antonio__> Version 3.7.86
[17:10] <antonio__> By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e
[17:11] <TJ-> bill_: "find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -type f -iname 'nvidia*'  "
[17:11] <Oog> service nginx start is working but when i kill the master nginx process it doesnt restart - it shoudl right?
[17:11] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-lowlatency/updates/dkms/nvidia_304.ko
[17:11] <bill_> /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: something bizarre going on here still loading NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  304.88  Wed Mar 27 14:26:46 PDT 2013  304 is still being loaded
[17:12] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, reading kernel taint in logs and then drops to vesa
[17:12] <TJ-> bill_: How about "ls -la /usr/src/"
[17:13] <dms123> oh yeah, last line of terminal output is "Succesfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' "
[17:13] <TJ-> bill_: And this: "dkms status nvidia-304"
[17:14] <Brian666> Anyone looking for Ubuntu virutal machine?
[17:14] <bill_> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/gymxsuNE
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: can you also once again: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[17:14] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, nvidia-304					install
[17:14] <bill_> nvidia-settings-304				install
[17:15] <bill_> TJ-, nvidia-304, 304.88, 3.11.0-15-lowlatency, x86_64: installed
[17:15] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, TJ- I do not know how they can still be installed
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: this is a little peculiar: once again: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-settings-304 && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[17:16] <fluffy_ferret> for some reason Ubuntu 13.10 enables my second monitor at login-screen after boot-up even though it's disabled in settings. I have ATI HD 5-series, binary x.org driver... any clue how to "fix"?
[17:16] <Brian666> Selling Ubuntu Virtual machine 2TB of space
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Brian666
[17:17] <actionParsnip> Brian666: this is support, please try elsewhere
[17:17] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, that did something - a lot of stuff removed
[17:18] <dms123> no one? Is there any place I can get help with these more basic install problems?
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: once again: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[17:18] <bill_> trying to send an empty document
[17:19] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, trying to send an empty document
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: thats a little unnerving. nvidia-common should at least be there
[17:19] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, well - hmm
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: once again: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/ | pastebinit
[17:19] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, that last purge command removed a bunch of stuff
[17:20] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751525/
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: i'm wondering if the 173 installed an older xorg. could be part of the problem
[17:21] <jammanbo> Am trying to switch my EC2 instance running 12.04 LTS to XFS. Have attached an XFS formatted volume, cloned / to it, replaced all references to "LABEL=cloudimg-rootfs" in the new volume's /boot with "/dev/sda1", and made an AMI of the new volume. Still when it tries to boot is says "ALERT!  /dev/sda1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[17:21] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, yeah I am thinking that as well -
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: ok, reboot and try again
[17:21] <jammanbo> Have been stuck for days. Could use halp :/
[17:21] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, or at least 173 did something severe
[17:21] <Xzeion> I am having trouble getting my upstart script to run at boot time. It works, just not automatically at boot
[17:21] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, ok
[17:21] <intrader> Anyone, I am confused with Dash Home. I have just installed gvim, yet Dash Home says 'Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search'; yet the icon for Vim appears in the launcher and I can lauch vim. help me understand this behavior please.
[17:22] <Daekdroom> intrader, does gvim show up in your Launcher?
[17:24] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, well something changed I now have 1024x768 - need 1920x1080
[17:24] <ivcho> Using Mate , No Desktop background
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: ok. lets look at the logs again: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> ivcho: cat /etc/issue
[17:24] <dms123> I'm just gonna keep talking about my problem, maybe someone will get interested :P Just to sum it up: New Ubuntu 13.10 install won't get past running update-grub, last line of terminal output is "Succesfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' " latest thing i noticed through the timestamps is that the activation of that service (succesfully) seems to be repeating itself like
[17:24] <dms123> every 4 or 5 minutes. It's stuck in some kind of loop...
[17:25] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751552/
[17:25] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751553/
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: ok vesa this time instead of fbdev
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau
[17:26] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, yes but I still see nvidia in there
[17:26] <intrader> Daekdroom, I can lauch gvim from the terminal and then it appears on the launcher  - but then I get ** (gvim:7355): WARNING **: Unable to create Ubuntu Menu Proxy: Timeout was reached' Unnity menu management s...
[17:27] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, comes back empty
[17:27] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, does not find nouveau in modprobew
[17:28] <interdpth> Hi, had my Ubuntu PC overheat this morning. Is there an error log I could find?
[17:28] <intrader> Daekdroom, by the way, the launched gvim has menu in the terminal window.
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> interdpth: /var/log/syslog
[17:28] <bgardner> dms123: What's your netbook model?
[17:28] <interdpth> thanks
[17:29] <dms123> It's an Asus EEE PC 1001PG
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: interesting. dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[17:29] <bgardner> dms123: Ok, stand by
[17:29] <dms123> thank you :)
[17:29] <TJ-> bill_: "grep vesafb /etc/modules"
[17:29] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751570/
[17:30] <bill_> TJ-, comes back empty
[17:31] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751570/ - in case you missed it :)
[17:31] <bgardner> dms123: See my PM
[17:31] <demoneye_> what kind of skype we use in Ubuntu? or should i d/l it from skype web site?
[17:31] <actionParsnip> intrader: if you make your own .desktop file for gvim in /usr/share/applications it wil show in Dash
[17:32] <actionParsnip> demoneye_: that or usethe deb from the partner repo. Both will do the same thing
[17:33] <interdpth> http://pastebin.com/qAsU7jae anyway to pull a better error log then
[17:33] <demoneye_> actionParsnip,  :where can i get the repo one?
[17:33] <intrader> actionParsnip, I understand - I have not tried that - I wish that installing gvim from package manager it would to the .desktop file
[17:33] <ddssc> how THE FUCK do I empty trash in mint? seriously...
[17:34] <actionParsnip> intrader: a reasonable assumption but it appears its missing. You could report a bug to get one added to the package
[17:34] <actionParsnip> ddssc: mint is not supported here
[17:34] <actionParsnip> !mint | ddssc
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: what do you get from: sudo apt-get install -s nvidia-common | pastebinit
[17:35] <TJ-> intrader: Try "dpkg-query -S gvim.desktop"
[17:35] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751599/
[17:36] <TJ-> intrader: I've found with Unity that I've had to log-in again to get newly installed applications recognised, sometimes.
[17:36] <actionParsnip> TJ-: could press ALT+F2 and run:  'r'
[17:37] <intrader> actionParsnip, prior to the latest updates to unity - I am running 12.04, the package used to be appropriately configured. Report a bug on ubuntu? or vim?
[17:37] <bugtraq> alguien de argentina??
[17:38] <TJ-> actionParsnip: I had to give up on Gnome/Unity ... it can't handle my screen configuration so I'm using kde/kubuntu. Not had the same issue in KDE so far.
[17:39] <actionParsnip> TJ-: I don't use a DE now, I think its a waste :)
[17:39] <actionParsnip> intrader: gvim
[17:40] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, should I try and reinstall nouveau ?
[17:40] <intrader> actionParsnip, gvim is not at fault here - unity is
[17:41] <TJ-> intrader: did you try log-out/log-in ?
[17:41] <actionParsnip> intrader: is there a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications ?
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO>  bill_ not sure if that will help. that would install the xorg driver but i believe its the kernel module is where the problem lies
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: it ofc wouldn't hurt
[17:41] <prashant_123456> can we use private key to authenticate ssh connection ?
[17:42] <actionParsnip> intrader: grep -I exec= /usr/share/applications/* | grep -I vim
[17:42] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, I am using the low latency kernel - maybe an issue there
[17:42] <intrader> actionParsnip, gvim.desktop is there
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: it shouldn't be an issue afaik
[17:42] <TJ-> bill_: "lspci -nn | grep VGA && modinfo nouveau | grep alias | pastebinit"
[17:43] <TJ-> bill_: actually, that won't do it... hang on!
[17:43] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751650/
[17:43] <fak3r> Macbook Pro 5,5 (2009) running 13.10 Mac - what is the diff for the Mac version? Download link doesn't tell me specifically, is it just drivers?
[17:44] <bill_> TJ-, shows the nvidia 650ti - so now I am really confused
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> lspci -knn | grep VGA -A 3 | pastebinit                             is what
[17:44] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: beat me to it :p
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: could see what you were after :P
[17:45] <intrader> actionParsnip, I wonder how supplied it - by the way I find 'Exec=gvim -f %F' in the file
[17:45] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: yeah... translating local shell to pastebin sometimes has its pitfalls :)
[17:46] <actionParsnip> intrader: then you are right, Unity has not refreshed. Try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  r     yes, just the letter. May help
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: lspci -knn | grep VGA -A 3 | pastebinit
[17:46] <corie> yes
[17:46] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751664/
[17:47] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751664/
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: its not finding a driver at all. something wrong with nouveau somewhere.
[17:48] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Didn't one of bill_'s /etc/modprobe.d/ results show an alias/option string for nouveau?
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: that was removed
[17:49] <TJ-> bill_: "lsmod | grep vesa | pastebinit"
[17:49] <FireStorms> Hello, I'm trying to "backup" my files so I can move them to another HDD. I also need to backup my LAMP data. I have a dysfunctional 30GB pen drive, a dvd, and a 4gb sd card. How should I backup?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: TJ- lets have a look again: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: TJ- lets have a look again: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau | pastebinit
[17:49] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: I'm wondering if there's a specific loading of [u]vesafb going on
[17:49] <apb1963> How can I update Qt to 4.8.5 please?
[17:49] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, empty document
[17:50] <TJ-> bill_: how about "lsmod | grep vesa | pastebinit"
[17:50] <mmazing2> ##aws
[17:50] <bill_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751673/
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> we might have a winner
[17:50] <wad> Any on you guys tried Ubuntu with full disk encryption?
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: pastebinit /etc/module
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: pastebinit /etc/modules
[17:51] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: yeah, I had bill_ grep that earlier for vesafb - no result
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> wad: many have. LUKS is the installer method of full disk encryption
[17:51] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751679/
[17:51] <wad> hitsujiTMO, okay, that's encouraging.
[17:52] <TJ-> wad: Yes, I do. I even have grub's boot partition encrypted
[17:52] <actionParsnip> apb1963: there may be a PPA
[17:52] <wad> I got Ubuntu all nicely installed on my new computer here at work, and was just told that I was required to use full disk encryption.
[17:52] <wad> Is it a pain to add encryption after install?
[17:52]  * wad holds his breath
[17:52] <TJ-> wad: Depends if there's some free space or a spare hard drive or large USB hanging around
[17:53] <wad> TJ-,  there is a ton of free space, so that won't be a problem.
[17:53] <TJ-> wad: If you want full disk encryption you'll need to 'move' the existing install out the way
[17:53]  * wad nods
[17:53] <sweb> my hdd want to explode ... jbd2/sda use 100% IO
[17:53] <sweb> how can i solve this issue ?
[17:53] <sweb> ubuntu 13.04
[17:54] <wad> sweb, try using iotop to see what is doing it?
[17:54] <TJ-> sweb: find out what process is causing it with iotop
[17:54] <wad> TJ-,  beetcha. ;)
[17:54] <actionParsnip> sweb: raring is EOL in a matter of weeks, you may want to upgrade to Saucy
[17:55] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, sorry to be such a pain - but I am at a loss other than reinstalling nouveau or the entire os (that is a big job as I have a lot of personal work on the system)
[17:55] <sweb> TJ-: what column for PID ?
[17:55] <sweb> in iotop
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: you want to try adding in the generic kernel? and see if that makes a difference?
[17:55] <intrader> actionParsnip, ALT+F2 gives me a login - I log in and `r` is not there . Sorry for delay - I had to reboot at that point
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: altho i can't see why it would
[17:56] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, sure - if you could give the command for me - and I would still be able to load the low latency at boot if needed
[17:56] <wad> TJ-, so the process to encrypt the disk might be something like: 1. Shrink the current partition, and make another one, 2. Reinstall Ubuntu to the new partition, 3. mount the original partition and move everything over
[17:57] <intrader> actionParsnip, when I launch gvim from the launcher, the unity menu appears! What is `r`?
[17:57] <TJ-> wad but that isn't full disk encryption, that's partition encryption :)
[17:57] <wad> ah....
[17:57] <wad> So how would I do it for full disk encryption?
[17:58] <actionParsnip> intrader: makes unity rerun, may help
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: reinstall nouveau: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[17:58] <intrader> actionParsnip, once loged in `r` is not found
[17:59] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, ok I will reboot and see
[17:59] <sweb> wad, TJ-, actionParsnip : http://upcity.ir/images2/74813513905822076486.png
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: install generic kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: try the reboot before the kernel
[17:59] <goog> What's the best technicque to keep host files synchronized on multiple hosts?
[18:00] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, oops
[18:00] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, I am a little too quick :)
[18:00] <interdpth> http://pastebin.com/qAsU7jae anyway to pull a better error log? it's from var/log/syslog I woke up to horrible beeping, turned it off. That's what the log shows for the time frame. I can't find any info on this
[18:00] <wad> Looks like jdb2 is a RAID?
[18:00] <wad> That's my guess.
[18:00] <babybee> Hi,  Anyone can tell me which version ubuntu desktop has gnome 3.8 as default?
[18:00] <sweb> wat, no it's normal partition in my laptop
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: lol, not a big deal. you may need to select the generic kernel in grub
[18:01] <sweb> normal HHD without RAID or LVM
[18:01] <bill_> hitsujiTMO, thanks so much for your help -
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> bill_: reboot and have a look
[18:01] <apb1963> actionParsnip: Thanks.  Although I googled previously I didn't really know what to look for.  Now I've found this: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-60118.html which if I'm understanding correctly implies I either need to specify the version explicitly somehow, or run apt-get dist-upgrade ....
[18:02] <KI7MT> goog, best, not sure, a good tool for the job, rsync
[18:02] <wad> sweb, strange.... so there is no actual program that is using 99% of IO?
[18:02] <sweb> wad, how can i find out ? which program ?
[18:02] <wad> Well, normally iotop will show you. But in this case, the "command" is  just the name of the partition. That doesn't seem useful.
[18:03] <intrader> actionParsnip, once loged in after ALT+F2 how do I get back?
[18:03] <wad> sweb, did you see this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=113516
[18:03] <actionParsnip> intrader: get back what?
[18:03] <goog> KI7MT: thanks- and if multiple hosts are ssh key protected, do you usually install both private and public key set on all machines so they could connect to each others?
[18:04] <goog> KI7MT: one key pair goes to all machines?
[18:04] <wad> sweb, it's the journalling process running.
[18:04] <diz---232> How do I import bookmarks from internet explorer (I have like 100 .url files) I backed up before installing linux into Chrome or Firefox? It requires a single .htm file on import...
[18:04] <sweb> wad, so what can i do ?
[18:04] <intrader> actionParsnip, ALT+F2 gives a full terminal screen with a login request. If I log in my only option is to restart
[18:04] <hell_> Hey everyoe
[18:05] <hell_> i want to know that how can i develop 3D Ui on ubuntu
[18:05] <actionParsnip> intrader: tried F11 to kill the fullscreen-ness
[18:05] <wad> sweb, I recommend reading that link: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=113516
[18:05] <hell_> and that to on beaglebone black
[18:05] <hell_> any ideas?
[18:06] <KI7MT> goog, Depends oh you sync needs, and it what order etc, as in who needs to sync with who, that's all I use is ssh-key make slife easy .., ssh-add <key-you-want-to-use> then ssh-copy-id  to the destination host.,
[18:06] <sweb> wad, change fstab commit ?
[18:06] <KI7MT> *depends on your .. ..
[18:06] <sweb> wad, it's the kernel bug seems so, isnt ?
[18:06] <apb1963> actionParsnip:  it's also not clear to me if I have the right ppa or not
[18:06] <wad> sweb, I don't know, I didn't read the whole thing.
[18:06] <wad> That should give you a start, though.
[18:06]  * wad <----------------- not an expert
[18:07] <intrader> actionParsnip, I'll remember that, thanks. By the way GVIM launches from launcher with unity menus
[18:07] <KI7MT> goog, sri about the topo's .. im on a very small interface at the moment.
[18:08] <goog> KI7MT: thank you. i didn't know about those two commands. i'll learn those
[18:08] <bill> i
[18:08] <KI7MT> goog, Yeah, makes transferring and managing keys a snap.
[18:09] <Guest1683> hitsujiTMO,  no go on the video - thank you for you help - I am going to take a break and then probably reinstall after I back up everything
[18:09] <actionParsnip> intrader: cool
[18:10] <Munster> Guest1683, make sure nouveau isn'r
[18:10] <goog> KI7MT: is it a bad practice to generate just one pub-prv key pair and use them on many machines?
[18:10] <Bending_Spoons> hi everyone I have a question
[18:10] <gordonjcp> goog: extremely
[18:10] <goog> gordonjcp: :'(
[18:10] <Guest1683> Munster, make sure what ?
[18:10] <Munster> Guest1683,  notstill blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[18:10] <goog> i've done it all wrong
[18:10] <goog> i hate myself
[18:10] <Pici> goog: it really depends.
[18:11] <intrader> actionParsnip, thanks for you help
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> Guest1683: fair enough. I'm after running out of ideas of what can be the cause. I still suspect nvidia-173 as the cause of the problem. I've seen that downgrade xorg in previous releases and do other funky stuff in the current release
[18:11] <KI7MT> goog, well some would say yes, but for instance, in one domain space, I have like 60+ server, im not going to generate ner for each one .. then in another domain, I may has 30 or so, but will ad a diff key for that.
[18:11] <Guest1683> Munster, thanks I will check
[18:11] <munir> can anybody explain how to install a software on ubuntu
[18:11] <andrea86> I am connecting my external LCD monitor (LG Flatron W2452v) to the VGA port on my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad T430). However the natural res of 1920x1200 is not detected. I have tried adding this mode to xrandr, and I can select it via the Screen Display, but my monitor indicates that the refresh rate is out of range. This should be 75Hz according to monitor specs..if I set it to 60Hz, the image is squashed. Any help? :)
[18:12] <Guest1683> hitsujiTMO, can I do a sudo apt-get upgrade - and get xorg back to right level
[18:12] <goog> KI7MT:  in the ideal scenario, should each and every machine have their own key pair?
[18:12] <actionParsnip> KI7MT: that's why we have cssh :)
[18:12] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Guest1683: I wonder if we could try modprobe nouveau
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> Guest1683: It should be correct for you
[18:12] <actionParsnip> munir: use software centre
[18:13] <goog> KI7MT: or every edge between nodes must have their own pair?
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: he got an error when trying earlier, but still worth a shot
[18:13] <KI7MT> goog, It's really up to you and your security model / needs
[18:13] <munir> yes but i cant find the software i want to install actionp
[18:13] <actionParsnip> munir: what do you want to install?
[18:13] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: I'd expect it really... vesafb will have it
[18:13] <munir> its calld bankid
[18:13] <goog> KI7MT: thanks i believe i got what you mean by that
[18:14] <bgardner> !ask | Bending_Spoons
[18:14] <Bending_Spoons> is there a place where people who aren't employees of Canonical, developers, documentation writers, or designers but are just average users can go to provide feedback?  Somewhere where Canonical and other Ubuntu contributors will see what I have to say?
[18:14] <munir> folder type .tar
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: only other thing i can think of is going thru everything in /etc/modprobe.d
[18:15] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: possibly we should be checking /etc/initramfs/modules and related
[18:16] <munir> can someone plz help
[18:16] <actionParsnip> munir: seems you need to extract the archive, then there is a nice .desktop file you can use to run it..
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !help | munir
[18:17] <actionParsnip> munir: in the archive there is an install script!  just run that.....
[18:17] <xxmate> munir: is it tar.bz2?
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: lets have a look at both, alto i don't think ititramfs should effect it too much at this level
[18:18] <actionParsnip> munir: it will install the application for you.... all you had to do was read....
[18:18] <munir> actionparsnip i just extract the folder but cant find setup thing
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: except he's gone :(
[18:18] <Bending_Spoons> I hate to repeat my question, but is there a place where people who aren't employees of Canonical, developers, documentation writers, or designers but are just average users can go to provide feedback?  Somewhere where Canonical and other Ubuntu contributors will see what I have to say?
[18:18] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: We'll never know :D
[18:18] <xxmate> munir: just see the tutorial here: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/compile-install-tar-gz-tar-bz2-files-ubuntu-linux/
[18:18] <KI7MT> actionParsnip, I've not used cssh, but reading the docs, it's not a tool I have a use for.
[18:19] <actionParsnip> munir: install.4.19.1.11663.sh    will install the application for you....
[18:19] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: I was up until 5am today hacking on a failed UEFI Win7 in a VM... I don't mind the rest :)
[18:19] <actionParsnip> KI7MT: very awesome, specially when the systems are exactly the same :)
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> Bending_Spoons: there's plenty of places depending on what you want to say, launchpad/forum/etc
[18:19] <actionParsnip> KI7MT: as they should be in a cluster
[18:19] <__raven> 13.10 64 on asus eeepc 1225c with intel atom n2600: extremely bad video performance with hd AND non hd videos. am i missing something/how to find out?
[18:20] <munir> action if u can install the software for me thats mean ubuntu its not safe
[18:21] <KI7MT> actionParsnip, Just because there's x-number of servers in a space, just not meant they are even remotely the same or therer to do the same things.
[18:21] <kieppie> hi folks
[18:21] <actionParsnip> __raven: what GPU does it use?
[18:21] <actionParsnip> KI7MT: then its not a cluster, we have clusters of 10 to 20 systems, all 100% alike except hostname and IP address
[18:23] <Bending_Spoons> hitsujiTMO where would you suggest I go?  I'm looking for a place that is frequented by Canonical employees and Ubuntu contributors.  Especially those that are working on Ubuntu Touch.
[18:23] <kieppie> I'm frikkin' sick & tired of the absolute horrid state of power management on my HP Envy notebook - stock ubuntu (relatively fresh). Hibernation is absolutely broken - fails to hibernate properly whebn instructed, does not recognise (or honor propery) hardware events (hibernate action triggered, lid closed), does not always come back properly, 50/50 breaks network stack when comes online, etc
[18:23] <KI7MT> actionParsnip, There are many told for cluster management, but his question did not say he needed a cluster management solution, only that he needed to sync several machines.
[18:23] <kieppie> any suggested fixes?
[18:23] <KI7MT> *many tools
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: that uses a horrible powervr gpu. The drivers for it suck and powervr refuse to release the specs for it so there's no open driver
[18:24] <__raven> actionParsnip: intel gma 3600 or 3650
[18:24] <Pici> Bending_Spoons: #ubuntu-touch has that.
[18:24] <actionParsnip> KI7MT: that will work too
[18:24] <FireStorms> I recently formatted a 30GB pen drive to ext2 using Gparted, but now files are mysteriously "going missing" after I upload files to it. Is there some tool to test the "integrity" of the drive or something similar?
[18:24] <__raven> hitsujiTMO: yes i read about that - hopefully there is a solution anyway
[18:24] <actionParsnip> kieppie: what is the output of:  sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a    please use http://pastie.og (or similar) to host
[18:25] <actionParsnip> FireStorms: before you physically unplug the storage, do you use the safe removal feature in your operating system?
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> Bending_Spoons: what exactly is the issue? launchpad is suitable for bug reports/suggestions. The forum would be suitable for other enquiries. But it depends on the what you're looking to say
[18:25] <actionParsnip> __raven: and the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[18:25] <FireStorms> actionParsnip, no never, i just yank it out
[18:26] <actionParsnip> FireStorms: that's why then
[18:26] <FireStorms> actionParsnip, i've never had a problem prior to this though
[18:26] <actionParsnip> FireStorms: why do you think that functionality is in the OS!?
[18:26] <__raven> actionParsnip: its ubuntu 13.10
[18:26] <actionParsnip> FireStorms: you are not allowing your OS to final sync the caches, so you will get data loss
[18:27] <FireStorms> actionParsnip, ok point taken. I guess I'll reformat it and try again. Thanks for youe help
[18:27] <kieppie> hi actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/j9GD8WaP
[18:28] <actionParsnip> FireStorms: I suggest you plug in the device, unmounts the storage and run an fsck on the storage. Then eject the device in CLI, you can now unplug the device. Plug it back in and you can use it as you expect
[18:28] <actionParsnip> FireStorms: no need to format
[18:28] <actionParsnip> !info Linux-image saucy
[18:29] <ajeffco> Does Ubuntu server 12.04.03 still require a patched grub to boot from SAN?
[18:29] <actionParsnip> !info Linux-image-generic saucy
[18:29] <glass|2> hi, i've unsquashed and then resquashed filesystem.squashfs from live cd, rebuilt the iso but at boot it show only a initrd shell. how fix this?
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> actionParsnip: linux-image-generic maybe :p
[18:29] <Bending_Spoons> I'm not a Ubuntu contributor--heck, I don't even have Ubuntu installed on my PC--but I have been following the news about Ubuntu Touch, and am interested in potentially buying a Ubuntu phone and a Ubuntu tablet when they are released, and it occurred to me that if Canonical truely wants input from the community on Ubuntu Touch, then that is something I would like to participate in.
[18:30] <actionParsnip> kieppie: where did you get the kernel from?
[18:30] <trijntje> glass|2: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:30] <__raven> hitsujiTMO actionParsnip  any driver/solution to improve the performance of the gma 36x0?
[18:31] <trijntje> Bending_Spoons: You should probably ask in #ubuntu-touch, this room is more for tech support issues
[18:31] <glass|2> trijntje: i want customize live cd, and the first step was unsquash/resquash filesystem without change nothing, but it doesn't boot
[18:32] <kieppie>  actionParsnip: I believe it' stock. I did install a kernel from kernel.org a few months back because of power-management issues that wat not resolved at the time
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> Bending_Spoons: generic feedback would be best in the forums. #ubuntu-touch is good for chat and launchpad would be a place for reports from your usage of the system. i.e. if you're running the beta on a supported device
[18:33] <actionParsnip> kieppie: we cannot support 3rd party kernels here, we can only support the kernels from the Ubuntu repos
[18:34] <actionParsnip> kieppie: so its not stock, you are throwing random kernels you find on the web onto your PC.
[18:34] <trijntje> glass|2: what guide are you following, and what customisations do you want to make? Have you tried using ubuntu-defaults-builder, I use that to make Dutch ubuntu images
[18:35] <kieppie> actionParsnip: understandable. will revert back to mainline kernel - warts & all - & report back
[18:35] <biggdadd73> I have a question but not sure where to ask...about installing Ubuntu Server 12.04 or really any version and mounting points...is this the right place?
[18:35] <actionParsnip> kieppie: thanks
[18:35] <kieppie> actionParsnip: mainline kernels from kernel.org are hadly 'random'
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> biggdadd73: ask away
[18:35] <trijntje> biggdadd73: yep, ask away
[18:35] <trijntje> lol
[18:36] <biggdadd73> ok the scenario is this:  I have XMBC install on a WIN PC (just info). it was partitioned with Movies, Videos, etc...
[18:36] <actionParsnip> kieppie: they are not from the offial Ubuntu repositories
[18:37] <glass|2> trijntje: i've followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:37] <biggdadd73> my question is if I install Ubuntu Server will I be able to mount those partitions and retain the files or will I lose it all?
[18:38] <actionParsnip> biggdadd73: is the Windows PC operational?
[18:38] <trijntje> biggdadd73: You should still have all those partitions when you install ubuntu, as long as you have room for an ubuntu partition
[18:38] <trijntje> glass|2: and what changes do you want to make?
[18:38] <DF3D2> uhm can someone help me? I'm supposed to fill out a job application but they sent me a .mhtml file, I can open it in firefox but then i'm not actually running it in their website. Anything I can do, or do I just need them to email me a direct link ??
[18:39] <biggdadd73> yes the PC is operational but it has a much large HD then my current Ubuntu Server
[18:39] <actionParsnip> biggdadd73: then how are you going to 'lose' anything? Or are you wanting to dual boot?
[18:40] <actionParsnip> DF3D2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1141538
[18:40] <biggdadd73> no duel boot required I was just reading about partitions yesterday...
[18:40] <actionParsnip> biggdadd73: ahh so wipe out Windows OS but leave data partitions?
[18:40] <actionParsnip> DF3D2: http://superuser.com/questions/128801/how-can-i-open-an-mht-file-in-linux-ubuntu
[18:40] <DF3D2> actionParsnip, thanks, I already installed that -- that lets me open the file but the "next" button in it doesnt work im guessing it is a multi page application
[18:41] <actionParsnip> DF3D2: people also say Opera can do it. Might be worth a try
[18:42] <biggdadd73> yes that is the plan to wipe out windows and install Ubuntu but I want to mount the other partitions as Movies, Music etc
[18:42] <androiidd> ПРивіт
[18:42] <biggdadd73> let me see if I can reword it better...
[18:43] <androiidd> ?
[18:43] <biggdadd73> I have Windoze on C:/ Movies on D:/ Music on F:/
[18:43] <kieppie> actionParsnip: fair enough. IIRC I had to install the 3.11.8+ kernel, as the current ones lacked some hardware support - I think it had something to do with the wifi stack or power-management
[18:44] <trijntje> biggdadd73: that wont be a problem, if you replace windows with ubuntu it should be fine
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> !ua | androiidd
[18:44] <glass|2> trijntje: i need to include software extra as double commander
[18:44] <actionParsnip> biggdadd73: then when you come to partitioning, mark the NTFS partitions to be mounted at boot but NOT formatted, you can even set the mount points at install time. Any particular reason to use the server OS? It does not have a graphical desktop you know. It is pure command line
[18:44] <androiidd> yes
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> androiidd: #ubuntu-ua
[18:44] <biggdadd73> maybe I got my self confused when I started reading about partitions...
[18:44] <trijntje> biggdadd73: what I would do is boot into the live system, start 'gparted', delete the windows partition, and then start the install. That way ubuntu will automatically be installed on the empty space
[18:44] <androiidd> hello
[18:45] <ryorky1> I keep getting the following error.  does anyone have any ideas how to resolve it?
[18:45] <kieppie> actionParsnip: brower history indicates this is probably the guide used, installed from "kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/": http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-11-8-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-pear-os-and-elementary-os/
[18:45] <biggdadd73> Oh thank you for the info.  I actually don't need a GUI
[18:45] <ryorky1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:45] <ryorky1>  apache2.2-common : Depends: apache2.2-bin (= 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4) but it is not going to be installed
[18:45] <ryorky1> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> androiidd: its english only in this support channel, for ukranian try: /join #ubuntu-ua
[18:45] <actionParsnip> biggdadd73: I suggest you use the desktop OS. It has a nice GUI you can use. Just plan ahead and read the screen. I suggest you use the 'something else' option and set the same amount of RAM you have as swap and the rest as /
[18:46] <actionParsnip> kieppie: we cannot support those kernels here
[18:46] <biggdadd73> can i just use GParted CD?
[18:46] <actionParsnip> ryorky1: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[18:46] <androiidd> thanks
[18:46] <kieppie> actionParsnip: btw - thanks for the pointer. installed stock generic kernel - will reboot & see how it goes
[18:46] <kieppie> (I suspect other things gonna get borked)
[18:46] <actionParsnip> biggdadd73: if you want, there is a partitioner on the Ubuntu install CD so no real need
[18:47] <ryorky1> actionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> ryorky1: please pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy apache2.2-bin
[18:48] <actionParsnip> ryorky1: ^
[18:49] <pancakes9> hey, can someone explain how bind, readline, inputrc all work together?
[18:50] <ryorky1> actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/9VKXcHHG
[18:50] <ryorky1> hitsujiTMO:  ^^
[18:50] <actionParsnip> ryorky1: you are using a PPA, I suggest you report the issue to the PPA maintainer
[18:50] <actionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: nice catch
[18:52] <Bending_Spoons> ok thanks everyone for your help
[18:52] <ryorky1> actionParsnip:  well, my issue here guys is that I misinstalled apache2.4 and I'm trying to reinstall apache 2.2 and php 5, but it is constantly throwing me errors
[18:52] <pancakes9> what is the readline init file?
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | ryorky1 this is how you remove a ppa
[18:54] <idaniel> Hi, guys, I was looking on Amazon and found Panda 300mbps wireless-N Adapter w/wps button-802.11 n, 2.4 GHZ  for a good price. It says it works for Windows and Mac and Linux, Mint 14/15 Ubuntu 12.10/13.04 and Fedora 18/19/20. My question is do you think it will work for Ubuntu 12.04. Anybody know?
[18:55] <idaniel> The Panda wireless has good reviews, some saying it works good with their Linux, but they didn't say which ones they had.
[18:55] <oscargot> quit
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: from the amazon page: NOT COMPATIBLE with any device that does not run an operating system specified above unless otherwise stated.            it's difficult to know for sure without knowing what wifi chipset it uses
[18:56] <trijntje> to be fair though, they probably say that to cover their ass ;)
[18:57] <trijntje> and not because they actually tested that it doesn't work with anything else
[18:57] <idaniel> hummm  kinda tricky I guess. There is Rosewell that some people say works good with Ubuntu 12.04 but one person didn't like it. Do you know of any good wireless adapter for Ubuntu 12.04 that can stream movies?
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: yes but i suspects its depends on the kernel. guessing 3.5 minimum.
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: do you have one atm that isn't streaming propperly?
[19:00] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: that I don't know, I'm not big on tracking kernel versions ;) I do know that its hard to find a proper wireless. I eventually got mine to work with ndiswrapper
[19:00] <idaniel> No, I just cleaned installed a Ubuntu 12.04 to a desktop and need a wireless adapter that will work about 15 feet away.
[19:00] <idaniel> from router
[19:01] <TJ-> idaniel: can you link us to the amazon listing?
[19:01] <NosGlos> !list
[19:01] <idaniel> ya  hang on
[19:01] <NosGlos> ciao
[19:01] <NosGlos> !list
[19:01] <trijntje> idaniel: thats only 5 meter right? I think every dongle supports such short distance, so that shouldn't matter
[19:01] <NosGlos> ciao
[19:02] <NosGlos> !LIST
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: there tends to be issues at the 3.2 mark. changes to the source structure after that means a lot of modules from before that fail to build on later kernels without some minor modifications.
[19:03] <idaniel> http://www.amazon.com/Panda-300Mbps-Wireless-N-Adapter-button/dp/B00EQT0YK2/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389725185&sr=1-1&keywords=Medialink+Panda+wireless+adapter
[19:03] <idaniel> oh ya probably that distance and maybe a little more?
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: i'd presume that the company is a bit lazy and don't write the driver to be compatible with the older kernels
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: whats the output of: uname -a
[19:05] <idaniel> sorry  don't know linux very well yet. So what do you mean with  uname -a?
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: can you open the terminal and type: uname -a                     just paste the output here
[19:06] <idaniel> well, this is not the computer I'm looking for an adapter for. It's at my daughter's house, sorry.
[19:06] <idaniel> I can get that another time and get back on chat and ask again.
[19:07] <TJ-> idaniel: I'm downloading the drivers from the Panda web-site to check the exact chipset ID, it looks like an RT28xx
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: ahh. well if you're running a kernel >= 3.5 i'd expect it to work as thats the same kernel in 12.10 and 13.04
[19:07] <idaniel> o.k. cool!
[19:07] <idaniel> so, Ubuntu 12.04 is the same kernal as 12.10 and 13.04?
[19:08] <Julie_> not from what I see on my installations
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: 12.04.2 has the same kernel as 12.10 and 12.04.3 has the same kernel as 13.04
[19:09] <idaniel> Ohhh yeah!  so the RT28xx chipset ID will work, right?
[19:09] <TJ-> idaniel: OK, it's an RT2870 based unit ... can't confirm the exact PCI id though
[19:09] <Julie_> in fact we have over 1000 that we needed to back down
[19:09] <idaniel> ohh    do you think it will work ?
[19:11] <idaniel> Soooo  12.04.2     is that the updated version for right now?
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: how long ago was the system installed?
[19:12] <TJ-> idaniel: This seems positive and shows a photo of the device you are investigating (PAU05)  http://www.pandawireless.com/
[19:12] <idaniel> umm probably over a month, maybe two.   o.k.  cool
[19:14] <idaniel> You guys have  been really helpful! This seems positive, so maybe I'll give that wireless adapter a try.
[19:14] <idaniel> I'm excited about it.
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: then i suspect it'd be on 12.04.3 then. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146878 shows it is working with some minor playing around
[19:14] <idaniel> minor playing around means what?
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: changing a setting to disable ipv6
[19:15] <ryorky1> I'm trying to run this:  ryorky1@ryorky1:~$ sudo apt-get install apache2=2.2.20-1ubuntu1, but I keep getting the following error: E: Version '2.2.20-1ubuntu1' for 'apache2' was not found
[19:15] <ryorky1> any ideas?
[19:15] <idaniel> o.k. not knowing linux very well, I would have to know how to do that. please
[19:15] <ryorky1> hitsujiTMO:  ^^
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: its in the article i linked. you could also come back here when installing it if there's any trouble and someone would be able to talk you thru how to fix
[19:16] <idaniel> or is that info on that site?
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: just look at the last post
[19:17] <idaniel> o.k. sure, thank you very much! you all have been very helful! I will look at that. Bye
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> ryorky1: pastebin: apt-cache show apache2
[19:20] <utente> ciao
[19:20] <utente> !list
[19:25] <opticrom> ls
[19:26] <Guest10478> so which ensures better formating for Microsoft Office files, LibreOffice or Microsoft Office on wine?
[19:27] <andresmh> I am running Ubuntu 13.10 in a VM and I want it to be as lightweight as possible. What are some things I could disable? I mostly want to use it from the command line, but sometimes I might need to do some stuff that require graphics.
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> Guest10478: kingsoft office http://wps-community.org/
[19:27] <Jordan_U> Guest10478: I would assume MS Office in wine.
[19:27] <Guest10478> andresmh: just install Lubuntu
[19:27] <andresmh> well, i already installed Ubuntu, can't i make Ubuntu be more like Lubuntu by simply disabling stuff?
[19:28] <Guest10478> Jordan_U: okay i hope nothing changes in the files
[19:28] <Guest10478> andresmh: maybe change the Unity DE to something like LXDE or openbox
[19:29] <trijntje> Guest10478: what are you trying to do with those files? Best way to ensure formatting is just exporting them to pdf
[19:29] <Guest10478> trijntje: i have to print out contracts and stuff that are .docx
[19:30] <Guest10478> also i have excel files that need the proper formating
[19:31] <glda19> can some help me to set up a network on my raspberry pi with  a static ip for eth0 and
[19:32] <bonsu> how do i install thing in ubutnu
[19:33] <FiremanEd> !details | bonsu
[19:34] <bonsu> i have download a flash player from the net and use the command tar xvf file_name
[19:34] <trijntje> bonsu: use the software  center, the shopping bag icon on the left bar
[19:34] <trijntje> bonsu: in ubuntu, you don't have to download software from the internet yourself
[19:34] <bonsu> yeah but the adobe flash player has beengiving me some problem
[19:35] <bonsu> i cant access the setting panel so i have to install one from their website
[19:35] <trijntje> bonsu: what problems have you been having with flash?
[19:36] <bonsu> the setting panel cant be click
[19:37] <kieppie> actionPasnip: howdy - I recall now why I run this kernel (from official Ubuntu PPA). My graphics card uses the "hybrid graphics", so without this more current kernel, power-management is totally FUBAR
[19:37] <bonsu> so i cant use webcam or mic on browser
[19:37] <balrog-k2n> hi, does anyone else have terrible resume times on thinkpad x1 carbon?
[19:37] <balrog-k2n> 3-10 seconds
[19:38] <trijntje> bonsu: what settings panel?.
[19:38] <balrog-k2n> i don't find anyone else complaining about this on google
[19:38] <bonsu> on a stream video right click setting
[19:39] <balrog-k2n> what about on other thinkpads, are your resume times good? (<0.5s)
[19:39] <trijntje> bonsu: try this http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager08.html
[19:41] <bonsu> i have tried that too , but looking around i have found that this happen if you have hardware acceleration enable
[19:44] <glda19> how can help me with my network on raspberry pi
[19:44] <bekks> glda19: Is you rasp pi running Ubuntu?
[19:45] <DJones> glda19: I wasn't aware that Ubuntu had been ported to the Pi yet
[19:46] <guest1234> So when I'm in my X session, something (gnome-keyring?) saves my local ssh passphrase after I type it once.  I'm now ssh'ed into that machine, and all my ssh-based operations (git, etc) prompt for it every time.  Any moderately secure way around it?
[19:47] <trijntje> glda19: try #raspberrypi
[19:47] <T4b> guest1234: To avoid typing ssh passwords use public/private key auth and ssh-agent
[19:48] <guest1234> T4b: I can ssh across the machines without passwords, those are set up. It's prompting me for the machine's local id_dsa passphrase.
[19:48] <elijah> Does anyone know of an app for Ubuntu that will show my current touchpoints? Kinda like in Android dev mode (show touches)
[19:49] <T4b> guest1234: If I got it right ssh-agent should still be able to save that password after you type it the first time in a session or timeframe. Take a look at it
[19:50] <glda19> who can i whitch connection ineternet use
[19:51] <floorpi> where is the trash located (ubuntu 13.10)? i seem to have a permission problem or directory is missing
[19:51] <blz> Hello.  My root partition is sitting in an LVM spanning two physical disks.  I'd like to move to to a RAID1 group spanning two *different* disks (the RAID group is not yet created).  Is this possible? If so, how should I proceed?
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> floorpi: ~/.local/share/Trash
[19:53] <bekks> blz: Mount a livecd, create the raid, copy everything, configure yur system to boot off the raid.
[19:53] <glda19> how can i see which of the two eth0 or wlan0 to make the connection to internet
[19:53] <CarlFK> VLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower (revision 2.0.8a-0-g68cf50b) ...  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `dv  '.   Is there a PPA or some package I can install that will fix this?
[19:54] <blz> bekks, ok cool.  When you say "Copy everything", will a simple `cd -R` suffice?  Also, I have a separate /boot partition ... how should I handle that?
[19:54] <CarlFK> glda19: try route -n
[19:54] <bekks> blz: cd -R is invalid, and I would just use rsync -av
[19:54] <blz> bekks, derp. cp -R
[19:54] <blz> bekks, but okay, rsync it is
[19:54] <bekks> blz: and exclude unnecessary things like /sys /procs etc.etc.etc.
[19:55] <CarlFK> glda19: the line with a gateway is likely what you are looking for
[19:55] <blz> bekks, wait, will rsync -av ignore those for me, or do I need to intervene?
[19:55] <bekks> blz: you need to tell rsync to ignore specific things.
[19:55] <optics> Anyone else having problems with dropbox just stop working recently?
[19:56] <blz> bekks, okay so /sys /procs ... anything else?
[19:56] <glda19> carlfk did you now something about raspberry pi
[19:56] <blz> optics, yeah it asks me for a root password at login
[19:56] <blz> optics, as of a week ago
[19:56] <optics> ahh
[19:56] <blz> optics, annoying as hell, really
[19:56] <CarlFK> glda19: more than average I suppose.  why do you ask?
[19:56] <optics> thanks blz
[19:56] <bekks> blz: almost everything from /dev, /var/run, and a couple more, if you dont need it.
[19:56] <blz> optics, np =)
[19:56] <bekks> !backup | blz
[19:57] <blz> bekks, great, thanks =)
[19:57] <CarlFK> blz: man rsync..         -x, --one-file-system       don't cross filesystem boundaries
[19:58] <blz> CarlFK, wonderful, thanks!
[19:58] <CarlFK> blz: that will avoid all the /proc and such, but if /home is on it's own filesystem, then it will skip it too.
[19:58] <blz> CarlFK, ok that's perfect
[19:59] <blz> bekks, one last question (sorry to nag!) -- what should I do about the /boot partition I currently have?  Should I rsync it to both drives in the RAID1 volume?
[19:59] <blz> or install the bootloader to both drives?
[19:59] <blz> or something else?
[19:59] <Timvde> Hi. I'd like to create my own custom keyboard layout, starting from azerty/be. I added this to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/be: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6752245/ and added it to the right files in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules. I think I did that part right, as it shows up correctly at the keyboard layout settings. But the preview shows normal azerty and when starting X, I get an xkb error.
[20:00] <bekks> blz: I'd create a separate boot mirror AND install grub to the boot record of both physical drives holding the boot mirror and the root mirror
[20:00] <blz> bekks, and I can do this with rsync as well, I imagine?
[20:00] <blz> or is dd better for /boot?
[20:01] <bekks> blz: dd works below the filesystem, while /boot is a filesystem. Just use rsync.
[20:01] <blz> ok, rsync it is.  Thanks much bekks!
[20:04] <yacc> Any idea when an upstream bugfix (Intel video drivers) makes it into Ubuntu? (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68410)
[20:05] <rdz> Hi all. A while ago I was able to change the display resolution through nvidia-settings, and now I can't change the default resolution. there is simply no other option anymore.. is there a way to force a lower resolution than the native res of the laptop?
[20:08] <pue> llstudie2014
[20:08] <pue> sry
[20:11] <Rock2010> #vpn
[20:13] <djcrazyjimmy> djcrazyjimmy
[20:14] <FireBeyond> During install, there's an option about 'no automatic updates', versus 'install security updates automatically'. If I installed with no updates, how do I change to install automatically at the console?
[20:15] <bekks> FireBeyond: In the update manager.
[20:15] <FireBeyond> bekks: I have no GUI installed
[20:22] <dschatzberg> Hi All, I have an encrypted home directory and when I ssh into my machine it does not automatically mount my home directory
[20:24] <jogr> dschatzberg: It works for me... So I suppose it should work. Did you manually umount?
[20:25] <dschatzberg> jogr: I was having issues sshing with X forwarding, I thought it was a permissions issue and modified the permissions of my home directory, could this have affected it?
[20:25] <Rory> dschatzberg: This is what you have to do: SSH into it, do not attempt to unencrypt your directory. Edit your ~/.profile file (create it if it doesn't exist) and put the line "ecryptfs-mount-private" without the quotes at the end
[20:26] <Rory> dschatzberg: You can edit with nano - ctrl-O to save, and ctrl-X to quit
[20:26] <dschatzberg> Rory: doesn't this require me to type in my password again?
[20:26] <Rory> dschatzberg: It will, yes
[20:27] <Rory> dschatzberg: Even if you are using ssh key authentication
[20:27] <dschatzberg> Rory: I do not want that, I want the ssh authentication to be sufficient,  that should be possible
[20:28] <Rory> dschatzberg: If you want to somehow work around that, I'll look for you, but why have an encrypted home directory if you can log in unencrypted without a password? Just remember anything in ~/.profile gets executed on login, even with ssh
[20:28] <andrea86> Can't get my monitor to display it's native resolution by VGA from laptop connection :( Any help? I've added the mode via randr (1920x1200 60Hz)
[20:28] <andrea86> Can't get my monitor to display it's native resolution by VGA from laptop connection :( Any help? I've added the mode via randr (1920x1200 60Hz), but the image is squashed and has black bars on the sides :(
[20:29] <dschatzberg> Rory: I log in using ssh authentication (either password or key) therefore there is sufficient authentication to mount my encrypted home directory
[20:31] <Rory> dschatzberg: OK but consider if your password or ssh key was intercepted or keylogged or something, your encryption would be useless, as somebody could authenticate from anywhere
[20:31] <jogr> Rory, dschatzberg: I tried to install ssh key auth on my remote machine. To get it to work I umounted the ecryptfs. I remounted it once and since I am able to use password auth and it will mount ecryptfs without a password, as it used to. I guess key auth an d ecryptfs is not compatible.
[20:32] <dschatzberg> Rory: Thats the case with all forms of encryption
[20:32] <rww> that would make sense, since your .ssh/authorized_keys is inside the crypto container, which needs a passphrase to get the key to unlock...
[20:32] <sors> any idea why alsamixer doesn't show the usb soundcard
[20:33] <dschatzberg> you can place authorized_keys elsewhere and tell sshd to look for it
[20:33] <dschatzberg> and I have done that
[20:33] <dschatzberg> so I can ssh in with a private key
[20:33] <Losalt> Howdy all =)
[20:34] <Domaldel> Any of you got a few min to help out a newbie with something?
[20:34] <jogr> dschatzberg: that is what I tried, I could not get it to work ans was glad I could reverse the situation. Must add I use a VPN so password auth is fine for me.
[20:34] <Rory> dschatzberg: No, because if they got your ssh key (easy) but didn't know your password (reasonable) then they'd still be stuck
[20:35] <Rory> !ask | Domaldel
[20:35] <dschatzberg> Rory: How is getting my ssh key easy?
[20:35] <Domaldel> Well, I was hoping for someone with time to go one on one in pm for this.
[20:35] <Domaldel> !patience
[20:36] <Domaldel> I prefer that to open channels anyway.
[20:36] <Rory> !pm | Domaldel sorry for the bot-spam :P
[20:36] <cdunn700> hello can anyone help me in removing all my old versions of wine?
[20:36] <Domaldel> I know.
[20:37] <Domaldel> Point is I *still* would like to do it in pm if someone is willing.
[20:37] <Domaldel> ;-)
[20:37] <Rory> Domaldel: Depending on your client, you can remove all the people joining and leaving. Google for "remove join part messages <client>" and you will find something useful
[20:37] <Domaldel> Yes, but that's irrelevant.
[20:38] <cdunn700> hello can anyone help me in removing all my old versions of wine?
[20:38] <Domaldel> I'd like to talk to *one* person only at a time without others hearing what I say or talking to me in the same place, that is in a pm.
[20:38] <Domaldel> I heard that this was a good place to get help with ubuntu.
[20:38] <cdunn700> its not tbh
[20:38] <idaniel> hi, again. I have another question. What if I had one desktop with a wireless adapter that has clean install Ubuntu 12.04. I want to connect a second desktop to it with an ethernet cord, so that the second one can have internet connection without a wireless adapter. Is that possible?
[20:38] <MrJerome> TJ- I tried installing on 2 different hard drives, one was SSD, the other mechanical, and I still get the slow shutdown issue. On the mechanical I'm getting the message "mount: / is busy" and then it hangs for several minutes
[20:38] <FourFire> Hello
[20:38] <cdunn700> hello can anyone help me in removing all my old versions of wine?
[20:39] <DJones> !repeat | cdunn700
[20:39] <cdunn700> both useless
[20:39] <FourFire> I accidentally removed a partition on a storage device, so that it's volume is "unallocated"
[20:40] <FourFire> I did this using gparted
[20:40] <FourFire> is there some way to revert that?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> !ics | idaniel
[20:40] <FourFire> the filesystem was NTFS
[20:40] <idaniel> alrighty    thanks for the site info
[20:41] <FourFire> I have a utility called "TestDisk6.13" up right now
[20:41] <FourFire> but I have no idea how to use it
[20:41] <FourFire> The data I have on this device is rather important to me
[20:41] <jhutchins> Domaldel: We all have our areas of speciaty, being just fellow users at various stages of experience.  Without knowing what you're trying to do, how can we know who should help you?  Group collaboration means you get a broader range of knowledge, and it also means that our contribution goes out to the whole channel to learn from rather than just one person.
[20:41] <FourFire> Can someone help me rescure it please?
[20:41] <jhutchins> Domaldel: If you're doing something nefarious that shouldn't be public, irc is the wrong place to be anyway.
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery  http://askubuntu.com/questions/171163/how-to-recover-a-deleted-ntfs-partition-with-data
[20:41] <glda19> they told me that the interface file can only have one gateway but how can i do that with i wil connect some times on wlan0 and eth0
[20:41] <jogr> FourFire: You want the original data back? I don't think that is possible. But I'm no expert
[20:42] <Fejti> Can somebody tell me, how can I change the ath9k_htc driver, for something else that can handle an USB wi-fi stick (TP-Link TL-WN722N)?
[20:42] <FourFire> thanks for threads
[20:42] <FourFire> Jogr the TestDisk utility could detect a filesystem there
[20:42] <Domaldel> It's not, but I'm a newbie and probably won't get this done quickly anyway.
[20:42] <FourFire> and i haven't done anything else with it
[20:42] <Domaldel> Also I simply don't like talking in a channel with more then 10-20 people.
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: if you know the start and end sectors you could write the entries back into the partition table with fdisk/cfdisk or gdisk/cgdisk
[20:43] <jhutchins> glda19: Not quite correct.  There is only one default gateway, but other gateways can exist per subnet.
[20:43] <Domaldel> So, either someone is willing to help me or I'll just formate the whole partition and start over, I'm not going to use this whole channel.
[20:43] <jogr> hitsujiTMO: Fourfire: Cool, I learned something today!
[20:44] <Domaldel> And I'm a stubborn guy ;-)
[20:44] <jhutchins> glda19: Are you not using DHCP for your wifi?
[20:45] <Domaldel> Because part of the problem is that I don't even know what to ask exactly.
[20:45] <Domaldel> And I'm going to need help with even figuring *that* out.
[20:45] <FourFire> I'm scared of doing anything unless I know it will work
[20:45] <FourFire> I should have backed up this data
[20:45] <glda19> jhutchins, can you go privted
[20:46] <jhutchins> glda19: SOrry, multitasking too many things already.  See my comments to Domaldel above.
[20:47] <Domaldel> Thanks all, just got a pm from jogr, we'll give it a go =)
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ddrescue/dd should allow you to image the drive and you could work from the image
[20:48] <Jordan_U> FourFire: GParted has a partition recovery option which I expect will work, but yes you definitely should have backed up the data first. How large is this partition? I expect a 95% or better chance of GParted's recovery working perfectly, so how you procede from here depends somewhat on how important the data really is to you, and how much space you have available on another drive (to for example make a backup image before trying ...
[20:49] <RixiM> is there a huge downside to writing a ext4 fs to md0 directly without using LVM?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> ... any modification of the partition table).
[20:49] <FourFire> Jordan_U, it's 244 MB
[20:50] <FourFire> and it is quite important to me
[20:51] <Jordan_U> FourFire: How big is the drive? Is there currently a partition ending immediately before the "free space" and another beginnind immediately after it? If so, we can make an image of that unallocated space fairly easily.
[20:51] <FourFire> no, that's the whole drive
[20:51] <FourFire> 244MB
[20:51] <FourFire> it was one partition
[20:52] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Ahh, then definitely make a full disk image first, since it should be easy. I assume this is a flash drive?
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[20:52] <FourFire> how do I use Gparted's recue function?
[20:52] <FourFire> yes
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: is it a usb?
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> wait you answered that already :P
[20:53] <FourFire> nope, SDcard
[20:54] <QTmexjucy> #kubuntu-se
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: if it was a single partition then it should be easy enough to fix. just gotta image the card first.
[20:54] <FourFire> hmm, how do I do that?
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[20:55] <apb1963> What am I doing wrong here?  sudo apt-add-repository ppa: deb http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[20:55] <FourFire> it says invalid option
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: thats a lowercase "L" not a number 1 right?
[20:56] <FourFire> ah, sorry
[20:56] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/NgwT7JCq
[20:57] <michagogo|cloud> apb1963: you want `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/usb.img
[20:58] <michagogo|cloud> apb1963: "deb http://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports" is a line for your sources file
[20:59] <FourFire> whatever just crashed Xchat
[20:59] <apb1963> michagogo|cloud: ty
[20:59] <michagogo|cloud> np
[21:00] <Domaldel> And thanks to jogr the problem have been solved to the best of my knowledge =)
[21:00] <Domaldel> Thanks all ^
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: odd. is it still running or has it finished?
[21:00] <FourFire> ok hitsujiTMO  it's copied
[21:00] <brontosaurusrex> ~
[21:00] <FourFire> where do I find it?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> FourFire: In the file "usb.img" in your home directory.
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> FourDollars: now. dd if=~/usb.img of=~/ntfs.img bs=1048576 seek=1
[21:02] <FourFire> great
[21:02] <FourFire> now, how do I try to work on that file?
[21:02] <apb1963> michagogo|cloud:
[21:02] <FourFire> or is the file my backup incase I mess up the drive?
[21:02] <apb1963> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: now. dd if=~/usb.img of=~/ntfs.img bs=1048576 seek=1
[21:02] <apb1963> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/+archive/backports) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[21:03] <michagogo|cloud> apb1963: no
[21:03] <michagogo|cloud> 22:57:28 <michagogo|cloud> apb1963: you want `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`
[21:03] <FourFire> ok that copied
[21:03] <apb1963> apt-add right?  not add-apt?
[21:03] <Jordan_U> FourFire: If you're lucky, hitsujiTMO's command will create a file, ntfs.img, which contains just the data that was in the partition you deleted, and which you should be able to loop mount with "sudo mount -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt/"
[21:04] <michagogo|cloud> apb1963: .....no
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sudo mount -t ntfs -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt
[21:04] <michagogo|cloud> just copy that exact command
[21:04] <michagogo|cloud> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:04] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - I've created a .deb package, signed it with my gpg key, and configured reprepro to use the key. But when I go to install it through apt-get on another machine, it's saying the package can't be authenticated. Did I miss something?
[21:04] <michagogo|cloud> tjbiddle: Did you import the key on the other machine?
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: ahh you beat me to it :P
[21:05] <Pici> apb1963, michagogo|cloud: both add-apt-repository and apt-add-repository should work (in newer releases at least)
[21:05] <tjbiddle> michagogo|cloud: I exported the public key, and then did apt-key add file_containing_key_contents on the machine I'm trying to install the package, yes
[21:05] <michagogo|cloud> Pici: Okay, wasn't aware
[21:05] <tjbiddle> And it shows up when I do apt-key list
[21:05] <FourFire> NTFS signature is missing.
[21:05] <FourFire> Failed to mount '/dev/loop0': Invalid argument
[21:05] <FourFire> The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[21:05] <FourFire> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[21:05] <FourFire> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[21:05] <FloodBot1> FourFire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ok just try: sudo mount -o loop ~/ntfs.img /mnt
[21:06] <apb1963> michagogo|cloud: got it.... ty
[21:07] <FourFire> mount: block device /home/fourfire/ntfs.img is write-protected, mounting read-only
[21:07] <FourFire> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:07] <FourFire> hmm
[21:07] <idaniel> o.k. back again with a question about "ics"- internet connection sharing.  On that site someone gave me in the ubuntu communtiy about internet connection sharing, it says to go to tools and then to internet and then choose "wireless?" because I want to connect another computer to one main computer for internet. Then it says to create a new "Ad Hoc" network name. What does that mean? Let's say I have a certain network name. How will that
[21:07] <idaniel>  connect with a different name? Kinda not getting it.
[21:07] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: No harm this time, but in the future please give warnings about the possible dire consequences of typos in dd commands. Also, for something like this I'll often provide a command like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb > ~/usb.img" which nicely creates a file owned by the user rather than root and reduces the likelyhood of a typo causing disastrous results.
[21:08] <Jordan_U> FourFire: OK, your original partition didn't start one sector in. That's fairly normal.
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: sorry, you're right.
[21:08] <FourFire> oh right
[21:08] <FourFire> I think it started right off, because I moved it at some point
[21:09] <FourFire> but there was one sector spare at the end
[21:09] <merculiv> Is there a way to disable exit on libreoffice in ubuntu?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> FourFire: It can't start "right off" unless you have no partition table.
[21:09] <Jordan_U> merculiv: What is your end goal?
[21:09] <FourFire> uhh
[21:10] <FourFire> how do I try Gparted's recovery option?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Please pastebin the output of "file ~/usb.img"
[21:10] <merculiv> Jordan_U, Im trying to disable a program from closing in ubuntu
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: try reducing the blocksize to 512 so its 1 sector in then: dd ~/usb.img bs=512 seek=1 > ntfs.img
[21:10] <FourFire> there's no such file or directory
[21:10] <idaniel> So, one computer will have wireless and the second computer hooked up via ethernet cord. Ummm just not getting those instructions about making a new network name for both to share.
[21:11] <FourFire> I see the file
[21:11] <FourFire> it's here
[21:11] <TJ-> FourFire: hitsujiTMO A better way: " sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 /mnt && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 63
[21:11] <Jordan_U> merculiv: That's not an end goal, that's one step toward an end goal. See: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal
[21:12] <FourFire> "/mnt: Is a directory"
[21:13] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: FourFire You can change the losetup offset "-o" to 1048576 to represent starting sector 2048, too
[21:13] <TJ-> FourFire: My mistake, sorry!
[21:13] <TJ-> FourFire: hitsujiTMO A better way: " sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 /usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 63
[21:13] <FourFire> now it's saying it's not a directory :/
[21:14] <luc__> hi all
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: FourFire: sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0
[21:14] <luc__> hi all
[21:14] <Linnak_> Hi, How can add keys for ubuntu repos?
[21:14] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Aha thanks! :)
[21:14] <bobear> hi, does anyone use sflphone for voip? i think there are some codecs missing
[21:14]  * TJ- missed the squiggle!
[21:14] <merculiv> Jordan_U, I am trying to get the menu option in Libreoffice for exit disabled and I was wondering of there was a way to disable it  in Ubuntu
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> Linnak_: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get update
[21:14] <FourFire> ok that did something
[21:15] <FourFire> because it didn't return anything
[21:15] <FourFire> but the $ has reappeared
[21:15] <TJ-> FourFire: If the "blkid" returns nothing about a file-system then you need to remove the loop using "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0"
[21:15] <TJ-> FourFire: OK, remove the loop lets try another offset
[21:15] <Jordan_U> merculiv: Why do you want it disabled?
[21:15] <TJ-> FourFire: "sudo losetup -o 32256 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 2048
[21:16] <Linnak_> hitsujiTMO: Thankk you
[21:16] <merculiv> Jordan_U, I am using it on a web interface and dont want the program to close
[21:17] <merculiv> Jordan_U, I am using fernapp
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> TJ: FourFire: hmm. i'm sure we could script this to automate the search
[21:18] <TJ-> FourFire: I'm asleep on the job, sorry, that was the same command. Do "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0"
[21:18] <FourFire> no responses from those last two commands
[21:18] <TJ-> FourFire: "sudo losetup -o 1048576 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0" - that tests if NTFS starts at sector 2048!!
[21:18] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Working on one now :)
[21:19] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Working on such a script when a very robust one already exists in the the form of both testdisk and diskpart (which can be used from GParted) doesn't make much sense. I can walk FourFire through using testdisk's deleted partition recovery option.
[21:20] <FourFire> please do
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: one last check: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 && sudo losetup -o 512 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0
[21:21] <thanius> Hi, I'm trying to revert to open source ATI Radeon driver, but I dunno how?
[21:21] <thanius> I've removed the proprietary driver but it defaults to some weird VESA shit
[21:21] <FourFire> still no return
[21:22] <TJ-> FourFire: "sudo grep --byte-offset -oa 'NTFS    ' ~/usb.img"
[21:22] <FourFire> "51715:NTFS "
[21:23] <Handlebar>  
[21:24] <Darkenvy> Where can I go for crashed HDD advice?
[21:24] <Darkenvy> (IRC channel)
[21:24] <TJ-> FourFire: "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 && sudo losetup -o 51712 /dev/loop0 ~/usb.img && sudo blkid /dev/loop0"
[21:25] <FourFire> "/dev/loop0: UUID="2E41715D1600BA76" TYPE="ntfs""
[21:25] <TJ-> FourFire: Bingo :)
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> We have a winner
[21:25] <FourFire> that looks like a success
[21:25] <binni> Does anyone here have experience with running Ubuntu on the latest Mac Pro (black cylinder)? I assume everything wont work out of the box, but can everything be brought to work through additional configuring?
[21:25] <FourFire> now, I just collect the files from there by nautilus?
[21:25] <TJ-> FourFire: The trick was to find the NTFS file-system ID which is "NTFS    " (4 spaces after) and it is 3 bytes into the FS
[21:26] <TJ-> FourDollars: Now you can do "sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt" and then read the files from /mnt/
[21:26] <TJ-> FourFire: Now you can do "sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt" and then read the files from /mnt/
[21:26] <qkzoo1978> Is there a bash variant of apt-get that will allow me to browse available packages with descriptions?
[21:26] <idaniel> So, guys, about "ics".  My daughter uses three computers to do homeschool online. One computer is a Windows 7 desktop with a wireless adapter. The second one is a desktop that has been clean installed with ubuntu 12.04 and is hooked to the first windows computer with an ethernet cord. The last one is an older laptop with ubuntu 12.04 clean installed on it. The laptop connects to the router perfectly. BUT, the windows 7 desktop is trying
[21:26] <idaniel>  to die, so my daughter wants to clean install Ubuntu 12.04 on it. So, now, back to "irc" connection with the second desktop that is connected with an ethernet cord. I don't get the instructions on the ubuntu site for irc connection about changing the "Ad Hoc" name. Change the network name? How can we do that? Will that change the laptop connection? I don't get it. So sorry here, don't get it.
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> 101 sectors in. thats a little odd
[21:27] <FourFire> Thanks a heap TJ-, hitsujiTMO, and Jordan_U
[21:27] <TJ-> qkzoo1978: "apt-cache show <package>"  or "apt-cache search <keyword>" will help from the command line
[21:27] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Yeah; I'd never have thought to try that offset myself
[21:27] <FourFire> I don't believe in God, but I sure believe in Nerd Lords
[21:27] <FourFire> they answer my prayers!
[21:28] <TJ-> FourFire: Just imagine how much agro we've gone through to have to learn how  to do this kind of thing!?
[21:28] <FourFire> I feel at the same time more motivated and less inclined to do the same
[21:30] <TJ-> FourFire: nothing like losing something just before you do the backup to focus the mind on it
[21:30] <qkzoo1978> TJ: Thanks, is there a stand-alone  tool you can think of as well?  I used one once, but now I cant find it.  It was a "visual" command line front end that easily allowed browsing and searching for packages.
[21:30] <TJ-> qkzoo1978: I think you are referring to "aptitude" ?
[21:31] <FourFire> ok, here's a problem
[21:31] <FourFire> I have two layers of /home directories
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> qkzoo1978: software-center or synaptics maybe
[21:31] <FourFire> I think it's somehow related to the fact that I've replaced the physical hard drive in this machine
[21:32] <qkzoo1978> TJ: Could have been, thanks
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: what exactly do you mean by 2 layers?
[21:32] <TJ-> FourFire: I'm not entirely understanding what you mean by 'layers'
[21:32] <qkzoo1978> hitsujiTMO: command line only :)
[21:32] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: glad that wasn't just me puzzled!
[21:32] <FourFire> I have root/home/Home/FourFire
[21:33] <FourFire> every time when I reboot it asks me which external device to boot from and then I just select the "notebook hard drive"
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> qkzoo1978: ahh just say visual
[21:33] <FourFire> but the drive isn't external...
[21:34]  * TJ- is lost now
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: cat /etc/passwd | grep Home
[21:34] <FourFire> no return
[21:34] <bekks> grep -i home /etc/passwd
[21:35] <FourFire> http://pastebin.com/X4thqCxC
[21:36] <WSP100> helo
[21:36] <FourFire> my /mnt folder is empty (at least the one in root)
[21:36] <WSP100> helo guis
[21:37] <WSP100> helo
[21:37] <idaniel> I think it just means that for "ics", you just have to make sure the two sharing have the same network name and password, right? The third laptop not sharing should also have the same network name and password.
[21:37] <apb1963> Does anyone know how to update qt to a later version?
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: I'd expect /home/Home is your old home dir and thats all
[21:37] <idaniel> ... because it's all sharing one network.
[21:38] <FourFire> ok
[21:38] <bekks> idaniel: the credentials are irrelevant for "ics".
[21:38] <WSP100> /help
[21:38] <idaniel> what do you mean?
[21:38] <FourFire> so why is my /mnt directory empty, or am I looking at the wrong one?
[21:39] <TJ-> FourFire: Is this your way of saying you cannot see any files in that NTFS file-system?
[21:39] <FourFire> I can't see any folders inside root/mnt
[21:39] <FourFire> it's completely empty
[21:39] <TJ-> FourFire: Do you literally mean "/root/mnt/" or "/mnt/"  ?
[21:40] <idaniel> bekks      it doesn't matter what network name? Will the router recognize it? Don't know too much about this stuff., sorry
[21:40] <FourFire> the root of the path tree and then folder "mnt" is empty
[21:40] <TJ-> FourFire: OK... refer to that always as "/mnt/" then we're clear
[21:40] <FourFire> yes
[21:40] <bekks> idaniel: the network name is irrelevant, too, for the router.
[21:40] <TJ-> FourFire: lets check the "mount" operation worked: "mount | pastebinit"
[21:41] <ice9> how to apply secure boot in ubutu?
[21:41] <FourFire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6752775/
[21:42] <TJ-> ice9: Recent Ubuntu kernels and GRUB boot-loader have signed versions
[21:42] <idaniel> hummm  so please explain. Soooo, I want my first computer hooked to the internet to share via ethernet cord to the second computer. These are computers that will both have Ubuntu 12.04. Ummm, so just the two that are sharing should have same name and password?
[21:43] <ice9> TJ-: in full desk encryption, the boot is still unencrypted right?
[21:43] <TJ-> FourFire: OK, the NTFS file-system is mounted so if you're not seeing anything that suggests the image is empty, or damaged, or all files are deleted
[21:43] <TJ-> ice9: It doesn't need to be; GRUB can use an encrypted /boot/ too
[21:44] <ice9> TJ-: I'm not talking about GRUB, but I'm addressing security in case of physical access by the attacker, if whole /boot is unencrypted then it's a serious problem
[21:44] <TJ-> FourFire: This "usb.img" file ... are you 100% sure it contains the area of the original device that contained the files you expect?
[21:44] <FourFire> it should
[21:44] <FourFire> the device was more than half full
[21:45] <TJ-> FourFire: There was only 1 partition/file-system on the device?
[21:45] <FourFire> I'm not 100% sure on what all those commands did but the device was only 256 mb in size
[21:45] <FourFire> and showed up as 244MB of space
[21:45] <TJ-> FourFire: OK  so this usb.img file should be an image of everything
[21:45] <FourFire> yes
[21:45] <idaniel> what does "create new AD Hoc network" mean?
[21:46] <brucelee> how do i shutdown iptables in ubuntu?
[21:46] <brucelee> in centos, its just service iptables stop
[21:47] <TJ-> FourFire: Then I suggest using testdisk to find and rewrite the partition table using the loop device, and also use "photorec" on the file-system to see if it can find files.
[21:47] <WSP100> Helo
[21:47] <TJ-> FourFire: If you do "sudo umount /mnt/" to unmount the file-system
[21:47] <WSP100> Helo
[21:47] <FourFire> ok
[21:48] <TJ-> FourFire: You can use "photorec  /dev/loop0" and see if it recognises file structures
[21:48] <TJ-> FourFire: photorec will not write to the device so you won't harm it.
[21:48] <misdirect> hi, how do i disable screen dimming when my laptop is plugged in. still i'd like it to dim when on battery? (ubuntu 13.10)
[21:48] <FourFire> Unable to open file or device /dev/loop0
[21:48] <jogr> idaniel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_ad_hoc_network It creates one...
[21:49] <TJ-> FourFire: Hmmm... need to prefix that with "sudo "
[21:49] <TJ-> FourFire: ... needs 'root' to open a /dev/
[21:49] <FourFire> ok came into terminal program
[21:49] <FourFire> > proceed
[21:50] <idaniel> Here is the site  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharin          O.K. I'll look on that site. Thanks jogr
[21:50] <FourFire> I'm chosing partition "P NTFS"
[21:50] <TJ-> FourFire: It's up to you know... it is pretty self-evident how to follow instructions. It'll want a path to somewhere to write any recovered files to... put that in your home directory or some other safe place with sufficient space
[21:51] <FourFire> ok
[21:51] <jogr> idaniel: Still trying to share the internet connection? Wikipedia won't be much help on that one.
[21:52] <jogr> idaniel: do you have a working conenction between the two machines?
[21:53] <FourFire> oh wow
[21:53] <FourFire> it's recovering loads of files
[21:53] <FourFire> and i can read them AS they are being recovered
[21:54] <TJ-> FourFire: The downside is often they don't have the original names
[21:54] <FourFire> yeah
[21:54] <FourFire> that's a lot of files
[21:54] <FourFire> most of them text
[21:54] <idaniel> oh  well, the one windows 7 desktop with the wireless adapter is going south. It connects to the internet, and hooked to it is an ethernet cord to another desktop with Ubuntu. But the one going south, we want to clean install Ubuntu on it and do the same, but I don't get the directions for doing that on that ubuntu site.
[21:54] <FourFire> I can't possibly recover the file system structure (folder tree) ?
[21:54] <TJ-> FourFire: It is reading every sector marked free which may contain old parts of files and creating a new file for each sector or chain of sectors it believes represent a single file
[21:55] <FourFire> so the file name should be just inside the file?
[21:55] <TJ-> FourFire: I wasn't watching when you described how you managed to kill it originally... if you'd only zapped the partition table I'd have expected the directory structure to be intact
[21:55] <jogr> idaniel: can they ping each other?
[21:56] <TJ-> FourFire: No, no names unfortunately. You'll have to examine each recovered data-file to see if it represents a complete valid original document based on your knowledge of what was there previously
[21:56] <idaniel> what do you mean "ping" each other? Like I said, we still have to clean install Ubuntu to the windows 7 yet and get a working wireless adapter. But when we do, which could be soon, I would like to know how to do it.
[21:57] <JazzBot> anyone know a good channel for help on gpu?
[21:57] <Rory> JazzBot: Why don't you ask your real question (if it's related to ubuntu) or go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <JazzBot> ok sure, thanks.
[21:57] <jogr> idaniel: sorry I misunderstood. You need directions to install ubuntu on a computer?
[21:57] <Guest71910> hey everyone check out an amazing star wars game called STAR WARS MUD!! go to swmud.org and check it out, just download a MUD program and connect to SWMUD.ORG port 6666
[21:57] <riqdiiz> SuperLag: she clicks everything that begs to be.
[21:58] <Guest71910> hey i have a question too
[21:58] <FourFire> TJ- well today I formatted a pendrive which I installed Trusty Tahr on
[21:58] <Guest71910> my laptop doesnt come back when i close the top
[21:58] <riqdiiz> In the net;-)
[21:58] <JazzBot> ubuntu won't detect my nvidia 650m.. I installed bumblebee and nvidia driver however it still wont detect. when I type lspci -v I notice under my gpu it says ! ! ! Unknown header type 7f
[21:58] <Guest71910> stays black
[21:58] <FourFire> I also, apparently accidently formatted this device
[21:58] <Rory> Guest71910: Does it come back if you press a key or use the trackpad?
[21:58] <Guest71910> jazzbot ive dealt with that
[21:58] <Guest71910> no rory it doesnt
[21:58] <Rory> Guest71910: You can set a more friendly nickname with the "/nick" command - for example to change my name to Rory I typed "/nick Rory" (without the quotes)
[21:58] <jogr> idaniel: No i'm really dense today. Sorry. You want to know whether you can share a connectio AFTER you install ubuntu.
[21:58] <Guest71910> l
[21:59] <Guest71910> hmm
[21:59] <Guest71910> not workin
[21:59] <JazzBot> ok, what do you suggest?
[21:59] <TJ-> FourFire: Ahhh, the formatting would explain it. That would erase many of the NTFS directory entries
[21:59] <TRENTON> its me jazz
[21:59] <FourFire> crap
[21:59] <JazzBot> i noticed :p
[21:59] <TRENTON> its all about the x server
[21:59] <idaniel> no   I know how to do that. O.k.  here it is. One desktop will get a clean install of ubuntu and a new wireless adapter. It will hook to another desktop that doesn't have wireless via an ethernet cord. So, yes, I want to know how to set that up. Both desktops will have Ubuntu on them.
[21:59] <JazzBot> i wondered..
[21:59] <TRENTON> you need to fiddle with your x script
[21:59] <FourFire> because there's a lot of text files
[21:59] <FourFire> and the files I need are .txt
[22:00] <TRENTON> what i do is go online search up some x file scripts people with your card have used
[22:00] <FourFire> there's like 150+ MB of .txts
[22:00] <TRENTON> they will most likely not work lol
[22:00] <TRENTON> so you just gotta mess with them til they work
[22:00] <JazzBot> ok thanks
[22:00] <TRENTON> honestly
[22:00] <TRENTON> sometimes
[22:00] <idaniel> I mean the second desktop will share the internet with the first one via the ethernet cord.
[22:00] <FourFire> that's like 50 million words of text
[22:00] <Pici> !enter
[22:00] <Pici> !who
[22:01] <TRENTON> i find a few scripts online and if i used 2- 3 together most the time that will make it work, for some wierd reason
[22:01] <jogr> idaniel: link over an ethernet cable should work with static IP's, you can test this with a live bootdisk
[22:01] <newb30> Hey guys, my usb keyboard and mouse aren't working when I get to the decrypt hardrive login screen for Lubuntu. The keyboard worked in grub though. What do I do?
[22:01] <JazzBot> hm
[22:02] <FourFire> TJ- is the file structure irreprrably gone?
[22:02] <idaniel> o.k. so you're saying that I can test it with a live Ubuntu disk?   I am so dumb with computers. What do you mean "static IP"?
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: if the partition not loading correctly?
[22:02] <FourFire> if there's some hope of regaining it, it would save me a lot of work
[22:02] <TJ-> FourFire: Yes, its gone
[22:02] <TRENTON> can someone please help me with my problem, every time I close my laptop it goes to sleep, but it does not come back from sleep EVER no matter what, press buttons, move mouse, everything, but the power light is on and it seems recovered just screen is black. its a lenovo thinkpad anyone have any ideas for me on this
[22:02] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO, got the files on my main drive now
[22:03] <FourFire> ok well I guess I have to pay for my mistake of not paying 100% attention to which drive i was formatting
[22:03] <FourFire> at least I have the data... somewhere
[22:03] <FourFire> Thanks for your help again guys!
[22:04] <jogr> idaniel: there will be no dhcp server (unless you install one) so it is easiest to select 2 static ip address for these machines. A static IP is a fixed ip as most servers use. DHCP assigns dynamic IP addresses
[22:04] <TRENTON> le sigh
[22:04] <Euclidis> Greetings..
[22:04] <FourFire> what filesystem should I use on this new drive I have?
[22:04] <TRENTON> yo
[22:05] <FourFire> it's <1GB flash
[22:05] <TRENTON> omg fourfire put all your messages in one box
[22:05] <TRENTON> your flooding
[22:05] <Euclidis> FourFire: fat32
[22:05] <FourFire> thanks
[22:05] <jogr> TRENTON: suspend and resume can be hell, no easy fixes. Try google for you specific distro and laptop.
[22:05] <TRENTON> yes i noticed, its some wierd back process thanks jogr
[22:05] <TJ-> FourFire: Also, the extensions photorec assigns to the recovered files, are an indication of their contents only... very often TXT is a cover-all. What I usually do, once photorec has completed is 'for f in recupdir*; do echo "$f $(file $f)"; done > tee /tmp/file-types.log'  which will better classify the contents and allow me to intelligently create symlinks from another "./recovery/" directory to each recovered file
[22:06] <idaniel> so, in baby words, hahaha so sorry...  ummm if they are compatable now with their ip addresses, they will be when I clean install the windows one. right?
[22:06] <FourFire> TJ- what does that mean?
[22:06] <FourFire> all or most of the files were initially .txt
[22:06] <TJ-> FourFire: It means you've got a lot to do yet to recover complete files, depending on what their contents were!
[22:06] <FourFire> I like .txt, it's simple
[22:07] <FourFire> the important files were all .txt
[22:07] <jogr> idaniel: yes. If you manage a link now (and this should be possible as well) you can do the same in ubuntu
[22:07] <Ben64> FourFire: the chance of recovering text files is very low
[22:07] <FourFire> so they shouldn't be broken unless they were spanning the wrong  two sectors right?
[22:07] <FourFire> Ben64, what do you mean?
[22:07] <idaniel> windows is sharing with the ubuntu, windows being the host. Windows will get cleaned installed with ubuntu soon.
[22:08] <Euclidis> Is KDE 4.12 using kwin?
[22:08] <TJ-> FourFire: Good luck; its a heck of a job sorting through them to identify the latest versions of the original files... you'll often have multiple copies of the same file representing each time the file was saved with newer content in it
[22:08] <FourFire> I have checked and read three of the files so far
[22:08] <FourFire> crap, really?
[22:08] <Ben64> FourFire: it won't know where to attach the text usually, so you'll end up with a billion different text segments
[22:08] <FourFire> ...
[22:08] <TJ-> FourFire: Yes... so don't assume the first one you recognise is the latest
[22:08] <FourFire> that's a lot more text
[22:08] <FourFire> how to fix it??
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: text files have no "signature". Heuristic scans look for specific signatires that apply to filetypes to determine what they are. plain text files have no signatures
[22:09] <Euclidis> !kwin
[22:09] <idaniel> O.K. jogr.... so if I have trouble later after having done the clean install of the windows to ubuntu who will be the host, I will ask later here. Thanks for your time!
[22:09] <TJ-> FourFire: The best way to recover is to use "grep -rn $SEARCHPHRASE recupdir*/*" to search those directories for text you will recognise
[22:09] <jogr> idaniel: so remains the link to internet. That will involve routing, I not really good in that... Good kuck!
[22:09] <idaniel> k   thanks again
[22:10] <newb30> Can somebody help me with my keyboard problem? It works in grub, but both my usb keyboard and usb mouse stop functioning when I get to the decrypt harddrive login screen. This is a fresh install of LUbuntu 13.10.
[22:10] <jogr> no problem
[22:10] <FourFire> ok, that's good
[22:10] <FourFire> I can just use the search function in nautilus too right?
[22:10] <VoidMainFunction> 11.230
[22:10] <FourFire> I can identify the latest version myself if I have all copies
[22:10] <TJ-> FourFire: You could but its not going to be very handy over the number of files you have to process!
[22:11] <FourFire> I only *need* around 10 of them to be easily sorted
[22:11] <TJ-> FourFire: grep will be stunningly fast, especially when most files are in the kernel block cache
[22:11] <FourFire> the rest are fine in disordered
[22:12] <newb30> ...help?
[22:12] <Euclidis> newb30: Go on..
[22:12] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Just came back and read scrollback. Earlier you said that you had only "deleted" the partition in GParted and left it "Unallocated", if that's really all you did we should be able to recover everything, directory structure and all (we should be able to mount the ntfs filesystem).
[22:13] <FourFire> uhh
[22:13] <FourFire> do we need the card or just the copy we made of it?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Just the copy.
[22:13] <newb30> my usb keyboard and mouse stop working when i get to the decrypt harddrive screen.
[22:13]  * FourFire *audibly sighs
[22:13] <newb30> but the keyboard works in grub
[22:13] <FourFire> Great
[22:13] <FourFire> Let's do this!
[22:14] <TJ-> newb30: When the system starts and grub is loaded the motherboard firmware/BIOS provides USB drivers. when Grub loads Linux the linux drivers for USB and the keyboard will be needed in the initial RAM disk image (initrd.img)... you'll need to sort that out
[22:15] <TJ-> newb30: Are the USB keyboard and mouse connected directly to the PC's USB ports, or via an external hub?
[22:15] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Right now, for added safety, run "cp ~/usb.img ~/Desktop/original_sd_card_image_copy_before_messing_with.img" and as the file name says, don't do any work on the image that will be on your Desktop.
[22:15] <Euclidis> Wtf...
[22:15] <newb30> they are directly connected
[22:16] <newb30> the keyboard has an internal hub, i think
[22:16] <FourFire> Jordan_U, done
[22:16] <TJ-> Jordan_U: as a precaution the image was unmounted so as long as FourFire doesn't format /dev/loop0 ... :p
[22:16] <Euclidis> G.F.Y. I.N.H and I ani't found it...
[22:16] <Euclidis> ain't
[22:16] <TJ-> newb30: Is it a laptop or desktop PC? what exact make/model ?
[22:17] <newb30> PC, err, it's custom built
[22:17] <Jordan_U> FourFire: cp ~/usb.img ~/testdisk_test.img
[22:18] <TJ-> newb30: OK ... motherboard make/model then? (I want to research whether Linux USB drivers should work out of the box)
[22:18] <merculiv> Jordan_U, I found it in the options of the program under customize menus.  Thanks for your heko anyways...
[22:19] <merculiv> help*
[22:19] <newb30> TJ: MSI 970A-G46
[22:19] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Then we'll try to roughly follow the deleted partition part of http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step on the image.
[22:19] <bnason> Can anyone help me with LVM? I'm attempting to add space to my vm. I've added it in vmware, and the ubuntu livecd sees the size fine. But I don't know how to get LVM to expand to fill it. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5d3c21d1f7b638ae5761
[22:19] <Ben64> Jordan_U: might be unnecessary
[22:19] <FourFire> ok
[22:19] <Jordan_U> Ben64: Why?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> FourFire: testdisk ~/testdisk_test.img
[22:20] <Ben64> Jordan_U: oh, i thought you were talking about a different procedure. I was thinking of doing the same thing, but with parted. didn't know testdisk did that too
[22:21] <FourFire> which partition do I choose?
[22:21] <FourFire> I tried this before I entered the channel, that time I used "nonpartitioned"
[22:22] <Jordan_U> FourFire: "Intel"
[22:22] <FourFire> ok
[22:23] <TJ-> newb30: Crickey - 8 USB controllers! USB 1.1, USB2, and USB3 ...which type of port is the keyboard plugged into? Have you already tested it in alternative ports?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Then "Analyse".
[22:24] <FourFire> yep
[22:24] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Then "Quick Search" and you should hopefully see your ntfs partition.
[22:24] <FourFire> "Should TestDisk search for partition created under Vista or later ? [Y/N]"
[22:25] <FourFire> I think Y
[22:25] <FourFire> there's nothing there...
[22:25] <newb30> TJ: they aren't labelled, but I think they are usb 3.0, the ones in the back. I haven't changed them yet, no.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Try the "Deeper Search" option.
[22:26] <TJ-> newb30: I'd bet that'll solve it for you... try USB2 ports... keyboards are only USB1.1 anyhow so its a waste of a USB3 port
[22:26] <FourFire> "No partition found or selected for recovery"
[22:26] <newb30> TJ: Well, they are working right now on the livecd though
[22:27] <TJ-> newb30: Yes, because when the liveCD boots it loads more drivers
[22:27] <Jordan_U> FourFire: That suggests that you actually did more than just delete the partition in GParted and leave the space unallocated.
[22:27] <FourFire> yeah, it does
[22:27] <TJ-> newb30: but when you use disk encryption the password prompt is done from the initrd, which only has a limited set of drivers installed
[22:28] <FourFire> I should try salvaging the data I have recovered
[22:28] <Ben64> FourFire: try sudo parted ~/testdisk_test.img
[22:28] <Ben64> see if the "recover" option finds anything
[22:28] <newb30> TJ: OK, that makes sense. I will try that out. thanks!
[22:29] <Ben64> FourFire: sorry, the command is "rescue" not recover
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Ben64: FourFire: No need for sudo since the file it's just a file readable by your user.
[22:30] <buklemickbuk> My internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection, can someone please assist me through this, i have been having this problem for quite a while now.
[22:30] <FourFire> what was the star number again?
[22:30] <FourFire> start*
[22:30] <Ben64> will be 0
[22:30] <FourFire> and end?
[22:31] <Kane_Hart> When installing Lamp by default idk if it's mysql or apache it seems that my site bottle necks really easy. For example if I send a link to members of our Minecraft server and 15-20 hit the site at the sametime the site bottlenecks. This is on really good performance hardware and the CPU does not seem to be touched nor the IO
[22:31] <Kane_Hart> I'm having a feeling their might be a max script thing or sql or something like that capping out by default.
[22:32] <FourFire> "Information: A ntfs primary partition was found at 51.7kB -> 256MB.  Do you want to add it to the partition table?
[22:32] <FourFire> Yes/No/Cancel? Y"
[22:32] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: is this hosted on a home machine, or a machine in a data center
[22:32] <Kane_Hart> DC dedicated
[22:32] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: what application are you running on apache/mysql
[22:32] <Kane_Hart> IPB (forum)
[22:33] <FourFire> so I said yes and it did something
[22:33] <buklemickbuk> My internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection, can someone please assist me through this, i have been having this problem for quite a while now.
[22:33] <FourFire> should I try to read the file as a disk now?
[22:33] <Ben64> FourFire: now type "p" and see if the partition shows up
[22:33] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: 15/20 users should not be a blink of an eye
[22:33] <Kane_Hart> Exactly.
[22:33] <FourFire> "Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags 1      51.7kB  256MB  256MB  primary  ntfs"
[22:33] <Kane_Hart> I can run a Minecraft server with 200+ people without any issues on the same box. But some reason something is limiting
[22:34] <Ben64> FourFire: looks very good...
[22:34] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: the default configuration will not limit 20 connections, it can handle much more out of the box (this is an ubuntu machine right ?)
[22:34] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Yay!
[22:34] <FourFire> great, how do I view the files?
[22:34] <FourFire> mount that file somehow?
[22:34] <Ben64> FourFire: now you should be able to "q" to get out of parted, and mount the file as a loopback device
[22:34] <Kane_Hart> ikonia it is hah. I guess I will have to comb through it
[22:35] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: is it a physical or virtual server ?
[22:35] <FourFire> could you walk me through that again?
[22:36] <Kane_Hart> I own the physical machine but I am running it virtual env
[22:36] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: what virtualization are you using
[22:36] <Jordan_U> FourFire: sudo kpartx -a ~/testdisk_test.img && sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop0p1 /mnt/
[22:36] <ikonia> it's not the old rhel io problem on virtual is it ?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> FourFire: (After exiting parted).
[22:37] <FourFire> "mount: special device /dev/mapper/loop0p1 does not exist"
[22:37] <FourFire> yeah on fresh terminal now
[22:37] <Ben64> FourFire: sudo mount -t ntfs -o loop ~/testdisk_test.img /mnt
[22:37] <Kane_Hart> Proxmox ikonia
[22:37] <Kane_Hart> had way to many issues with Vmware in the past
[22:37] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: I've never hard of promox
[22:37] <TJ-> Kane_Hart: I recall something about PHP needing to be configured to pool connections to the mysql server otherwise it'd hit its simultaneous connection limit quite quickly. Some years ago I remember having to reconfigure for that, but can't remember how, and not sure if the same issue still applies
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Ben64: FourFire: That command will fail.
[22:37] <Ben64> why?
[22:37] <FourFire> "NTFS signature is missing"
[22:38] <Ben64> :(
[22:38] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: that's just a manager, that's not the virtualization
[22:38] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Please pastebin the output of "losetup -a" and "sudo blkid".
[22:38] <Kane_Hart> TJ- that is what it seems like. I will give that a look into.
[22:38] <FourFire> "The device '/dev/loop2' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS."
[22:38] <Kane_Hart> ikonia does CT and VM what you talking about :P
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Ben64: Because you're mounting the disk, not the partition.
[22:38] <Newb30> TJ: Changing usb ports didn't work.
[22:38] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: "does" - it's just a manager
[22:38] <FourFire> we know that the NTFS is on the file, but it's hidden inside, it's not marked because I deleted it
[22:38] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: it links into kvm and lxc
[22:38] <FourFire> what is marked is [empty]
[22:38] <Ben64> Jordan_U: i see
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Ben64: kpartx has created a device node for the partition, we just need to figure out that device node's name.
[22:38] <ikonia> Kane_Hart: are you using kvm or lxc ?
[22:39] <TJ-> Newb30: hmmm, not sure what to suggest.... Are you using the liveCD right now?
[22:39] <Newb30> yes
[22:39] <FourFire> ah right
[22:39] <TJ-> Jordan_U: usually it'll be /dev/mapper/loop0p1 or similar
[22:40] <tjbiddle> how can i verify if a package is signed that i'm getting from apt-get?
[22:40] <TJ-> FourFire: "ls /dev/mapper/loop*"
[22:40] <FourFire> ok blue text happened
[22:41] <FourFire> "/dev/mapper/loop1p1
[22:41] <FourFire> "
[22:41] <indefinatelybann> hey im working on a java drive by, is there any way to do it without the run java prompt
[22:41] <Jordan_U> FourFire: sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop1p1 /mnt/
[22:41] <Newb30> TJ: yes
[22:42] <FourFire> ok, something happened
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Ben64: I like parted's interface for partition recovery much better than testdisk's, and it seems in this case like it was just generally better at finding partitions. I'm definitely going to prefer parted from now on for this, thanks.
[22:42] <indefinatelybann> hey im working on a java drive by, is there any way to do it without the run java prompt
[22:42] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Your files should now all be accessible via the path "/mnt/" (though there may be permissions issues accessing them as your user).
[22:43] <TJ-> Newb30: let's find out what kernel modules (drivers) are loaded. Start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and type the command "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and hopefully that will install (or confirm it is already installed) a helpful utility first
[22:43] <Ben64> Jordan_U: yeah, parted has given me good results
[22:43] <k1l> indefinatelybann: no malicious support in here
[22:43] <FourFire> well the /mnt/ folder is still empty
[22:44] <FourFire> how do I force sudo inside nautilus?
[22:44] <q0> So I changed the root home folder but it is not sourcing the .kshrc in my $HOME, any tips on what I might be missing ?
[22:44] <TJ-> FourFire: it will be ... we already know the file-system structure were hosed ... what you've just done is identical to what we did earlier
[22:44] <FourFire> or is there some other method
[22:44] <Ben64> FourFire: when you said "something happened" after you tried mounting it, what exactly happened?
[22:44] <Newb30> TJ: Ok, done.
[22:44] <FourFire> the terminal flickered and paused before newlining
[22:44] <Jordan_U> FourFire: To be clear, since you were asked to run many different commands and didn't say after which one "something happened", what was the last commmand you ran?
[22:44] <q0> I'm trying to get an alias in $ROOT sourced with startup console, what am i missing
[22:45] <TJ-> Newb30: OK. That helper will send results of commands to the Ubuntu pastebin and provide you with a URL you can paste into this channel for us to go read
[22:45] <FourFire> "sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop1p1 /mnt/"
[22:45] <q0> oops, there's no $ROOT i mean $HOME lol
[22:45] <TJ-> Newb30: Now do "lsmod | pastebinit"
[22:45] <Jordan_U> FourFire: Does "ls /mnt/" list your files (or print an error message)?
[22:45] <FourFire> there was no return, only a newline
[22:46] <FourFire> no return
[22:46] <TJ-> FourFire: "mount | grep /mnt" to check it did mount something :)
[22:46] <shi__> hey guys check out this really cool site
[22:46] <shi__> http://rapp.t15.org/
[22:46] <Jordan_U> FourFire: That's discouraging.
[22:46] <FourFire> "/dev/mapper/loop1p1 on /mnt type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)"
[22:46] <Jordan_U> shi__: Please do not post spam in this channel.
[22:46] <Newb30> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753087/
[22:46] <TJ-> FourFire: Yes, that has mounted it.
[22:47] <shi__> its not spam
[22:47] <shi__> its legit
[22:47] <TJ-> Newb30: give me a few mins to digest that :)
[22:47] <shi__> Newb30: Line 30 has a mistake, go change it
[22:47] <Jordan_U> shi__: Your message was spam, there is no further discussion about that fact. Don't do it again.
[22:47] <shi__> oooooo
[22:47] <TJ-> Newb30: ignore shi__
[22:47] <shi__> http://rapp.t15.org/
[22:48] <shi__> bitch
[22:49] <FourFire> I see there must be a lot of flooding in this channel
[22:49] <chemist^> hi everyone, i can't get 3d acceleration to work in virtualbox - i installed windoz xp on it, booted in safe mode as admin, installed additions, and if i tick the "enable 3d acc." the machine doesn't start, gives me an error saying my videocard does not support 3d.
[22:49] <TJ-> Newb30: Now do "sudo lspci -nnk | pastebinit"
[22:49]  * FourFire gestures at the trio of floodbots
[22:49] <gmachine_24> greetings earthings. I am finishing up my new Ubuntu media server and need to enable the usb wireless "dongle" - it's an old linksys/cisco. The computer is connected via onboard lan but I want to make it wireless. I have done ifconfig and lsusb... what next?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> DO NOT follow the link posted by shi__, it contains malware.
[22:49] <chemist^> i have a Radeon HD 5450 1 gb ... doesn't it support 3d acc.?
[22:50] <Ben64> Jordan_U: hah, i was just checking that too.
[22:50] <Handlebar>  !best > Handlebar
[22:50] <gmachine_24> you can always tell when school is out; you get people like shi__
[22:50] <Newb30> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753116/
[22:51] <q0> it seems i didn't need anyone else to solve any of my problems
[22:52] <q0> it was just impatience reflecting
[22:52] <TJ-> Newb30: thanks... and now do 'echo -e "$(lsusb -t)\n\n$(lsusb)" | pastebinit  '
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Ben64: You may have done the same thing, but with suspicious liks like that don't even open them in a browser, use wget and a text editor to view the site.
[22:53] <Ben64> Jordan_U: exactly what i did :) virustotal reports only 3/42 scanners detect it too. hope nobody went to that site
[22:53] <TJ-> lynx will keep you safe :)
[22:53] <Newb30> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753131/
[22:54] <gmachine_24> can someone please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6753133/ to help with configuration of wireless connection? Thank you. :-)
[22:55] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey guys
[22:55] <gmachine_24> heycat
[22:55] <TJ-> Newb30: which version of Ubuntu is installed? If it is the same as the liveISO then do "cat /etc/issue"
[22:55] <Schrodinger`Cat> i just do a "$ sudo service networking restart" and my graphic interface juste go crazy... is that a normal behavior ?
[22:56] <FourFire> have we tried fdisk Jordan_U ?
[22:56] <gmachine_24> for you or the computer?
[22:56] <yorick> okay so FourFire can just fdisk his partition table back in place, right?
[22:56] <Newb30> TJ: LUbuntu 13.10
[22:56] <Schrodinger`Cat> gmachine_24, for my graphic interface :)
[22:56] <FourFire> or is that not possible for one of the reasons we discovered ?
[22:56] <yorick> FourFire: have you imaged the thing already?
[22:56] <FourFire> yes
[22:57] <FourFire> I have three copies of it
[22:57] <yorick> okay :)
[22:57] <Newb30> TJ: Err, it says Ubutnu 13.10
[22:57] <yorick> Jordan_U: so is fdisk a possiblity?
[22:58] <FourFire> one has been mounted and some/all of the data has been extracted using some utility
[22:58] <FourFire> but it's all just random text files
[22:58] <chemist^> virtualbox doesn't recognize the host's graphics as a 3d capable although it is, has anyone else had this issue?
[22:58] <FourFire> and it's 150MB of .txt files
[22:58] <Beldar> gmachine_24, might be a good start. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Ralink+RT2870
[22:58] <yorick> FourFire: mounted? but you deleted the partition!
[22:58] <FourFire> I had a file tree and I hope I can recover that
[22:58] <Newb30> TJ: Also, these commands were on the livecd. Is that what you wanted?
[22:58] <FourFire> the copy of the data was mounted somehow using a loop0
[22:59] <Shlee> hi, my ubuntu server disk used to boot into a purpleish grub menu with the ability to select 'advanced options'... now it always boots into a b/w basic menu... any idea?
[22:59] <FourFire> and stuff was copied off that mounted thing into my downloads folder
[22:59] <Jordan_U> FourFire: It looks like what actually happened is that you had an ntfs partition with valid files and you overwrote it with a new ntfs partiiton.
[22:59] <yorick> FourFire: okay, if it mounts then there is an intact partition
[22:59] <FourFire> right
[23:00] <FourFire> but I didn't do anything to the drive after that
[23:00] <yorick> FourFire: loop is just a way to mount iso files like you would the real thing
[23:00] <Beldar> gmachine_24, says solved. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589504 Use this to search the web. ubuntu Ralink RT2870
[23:00] <FourFire> yeah I figured
[23:00] <gmachine_24> Beldar, thanks, I'm reading the first url you posted
[23:00] <FourFire> Jordan_U, because I thought I was formatting a pendrive
[23:00] <TJ-> Newb30: thanks. From the output you've given me I *think* my initial diagnosis is probably correct. The "lsusb" output shows that several ports are being managed by the ohci-pci module, which is the slow-speed USB driver. The output of "lsmod" (list loaded modules) shows that "ohci-pci" is not built-in to the kernel image. My *guess* is that module, or the related "usbhid" isn't in the "initrd.img" and therefore the kernel can't manage the slow-speed usb ports. I
[23:00] <TJ-> doubt myself though, because it seems such a basic thing it should be OK.
[23:00] <yorick> FourFire: I cannot think of any situations where textfiles are involved
[23:01] <FourFire> the content, my data is text files
[23:01] <FourFire> lots of them
[23:01] <FourFire> ~150MB of them
[23:01] <yorick> so what did you retrieve?
[23:01] <Beldar> gmachine_24, Seems usable in general, not sure myself beyond what I have suggested.
[23:01] <Ben64> FourFire: a bit off topic, but i've found Recuva works excellently on Windows
[23:02] <FourFire> Ben64, only on 12.04 hre
[23:02] <yorick> Ben64: yes, that's not helpful at all
[23:02] <Ben64> why is it not
[23:02] <yorick> Ben64: he destroyed the partition
[23:02] <Ben64> so?
[23:02] <FourFire> I do not own a windows
[23:02] <yorick> Ben64: I think recuva works on deleted files, not partitions
[23:02] <FourFire> now, I'm wondering whether it is at all possible to reconstruct the file tree
[23:02] <Ben64> the partition may be back now, which recuva could handle
[23:03] <Jordan_U> FourFire: The method we used will only work if you haven't created a new filesystem after "deleting" the partition (removing the entry for the parition from the partition table). So you will have to use other methods, and will likely not be able to recover the filenames :(
[23:03] <TJ-> FourFire: If your actions, as it seems they did, over-wrote the NTFS $MFT and backup there is little chance of making any better recovery of files than you've already done
[23:03] <FourFire> because if I could do that, it would save a great deal of time
[23:03] <FourFire> Tj-
[23:03] <FourFire> ok, so how do I use this grep to find keyphrases?
[23:03] <TJ-> FourFire: If the same partition was re-formatted with the same file-system type (NTFS) then the new empty $MFT would be written to the same location as the existing one, obliterating it
[23:03] <yorick> FourFire: okay, you are not getting the filenames back. are they ordered in a way that can be done automatically?
[23:04] <FourFire> not really...
[23:04] <FourFire> they were ordered in an order to do with how I had processed them
[23:04] <FourFire> how much which ones had been edited, some by genre
[23:05] <FourFire> others by age
[23:05] <FourFire> some by size
[23:05] <TJ-> FourFire: something like "grep -rn "$SEARCH_REGEXP" recup_dir*/*"
[23:05] <FourFire> the really big ones went into their own folder
[23:05] <Newb30> TJ: So what should I do? Do I have to do something to this initrd.img?
[23:05] <FourFire> $Search_Regexp can be a single keyword right?
[23:06] <yorick> FourFire: okay, genre/age can be machine learned or looked up on the internet, size can be found
[23:06] <yorick> FourFire: the processing is too bad
[23:06] <TJ-> FourFire: Sure... any regexp that grep accepts
[23:06] <FourFire> yeah well age is decent enough and if I can seperate all the ones over 1 MB then that'll be good
[23:06] <TJ-> FourFire: See this link for tips on additional steps, including identifying duplicates, you can do now: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/After_Using_PhotoRec
[23:07] <FourFire> thanks
[23:07] <yorick> FourFire: you can separate by size using a simple script
[23:07] <TJ-> Newb30: First thing I'd do is methodically test every USB port on that system ... if one works you can at least get in easily
[23:07] <FourFire> I guess I finally have an important reason to learn scripting!
[23:08] <yorick> FourFire: how many files are there?
[23:08] <TJ-> Newb30: Otherwise, it's an involved job to fix it from the liveISO
[23:08] <FourFire> I don't remember
[23:08] <yorick> >10k?
[23:08] <TJ-> Newb30: I'm researching the motherboard model for related bugs but I don't expect to find anything
[23:08] <FourFire> enough that there's 150MB+ with a median size of ~50kb
[23:09] <yorick> ouch
[23:09] <TJ-> FourFire: "find ./recup_dir* -type f | wc -l"
[23:09] <FourFire> some were sound files though, compact ones
[23:09] <yorick> FourFire: you can use the 'file' tool to identify file type
[23:09] <yorick> file yourfile
[23:10] <TJ-> yorick: Yes, I already provided a script using 'file'
[23:10] <FourFire> "2528"
[23:10] <Viking667> hi all. If a user gets created (say, joe) does that user automatically get added to the users group too?
[23:10] <FourFire> not too bad
[23:11] <FourFire> some of them were quite large
[23:11] <Viking667> I'm on saucy, recently installed with a migrated user account from an old machine.
[23:11] <TJ-> FourFire: What I usually do, once photorec has completed is 'for f in recupdir*; do echo "$f $(file $f)"; done > tee /tmp/file-types.log'  which will better classify the contents and allow me to intelligently create symlinks from another "./recovery/" directory to each recovered file
[23:12] <FourFire> ok
[23:12] <FourFire> now I appreciate your help here, but it's really late where I am and I don't need this file right now, but can I ask for help tomorrow?
[23:13] <AncientPC> I restarted my laptop and the login manager won't come up. I can still switch to tty1-tty6, but tty7 just shows a single cursor. (Ubuntu 12.04.4)
[23:13] <FourFire> thanks for your help too Yorick
[23:13] <AncientPC> How would I go about debugging the problem? I don't see anything relevant in syslog.
[23:14] <Viking667> AncientPC: you may have to see if your login manager (say, lightdm) is running.
[23:14] <Viking667> Alternatively, check Alt-F8
[23:14] <AncientPC> I didn't change it from Ubuntu's default.
[23:15] <AncientPC> Viking667: alt-f8 does nothing. :(
[23:15] <UserError> Hello. Why are your compile targets set for i686 on 32bit for KDE and Gnome3?
[23:16] <UserError> That is illogical
[23:16] <Viking667> AncientPC: okay. Have you logged in on one of the other 1-6 terminals?
[23:16] <TJ-> Newb30: I found a related issue but I'd hope your system would have a recent enough BIOS to have fixed it, but check this anyhow bug #859137
[23:16] <UserError> Given your minimum system specifications for those platforms
[23:16] <UserError> as well as Unity
[23:16] <Viking667> if so, do a "ps ax | grep dm"
[23:16] <Viking667> don't paste the results here, but tell us if you see lightdm
[23:16] <TJ-> Newb30: short answer: install the most recent motherboard BIOS
[23:17] <DasEi> !nvidia
[23:17] <AncientPC> Viking667: It's running with a tty: ?
[23:18] <TJ-> UserError: that's user error. Ubuntu is built for a wide range of systems, not all installations even have a GUI - server and VM installs, for example
[23:18] <UserError> TJ, your minimum specifications are impossible for unity on an i686 system
[23:18] <UserError> aka a powerPC
[23:19] <UserError> in fact, only one chipset exceeds the minimum ram spec and only a quad meets the CPU spec
[23:19] <TJ-> UserError: Unity isn't Ubuntu!
[23:19] <UserError> and very few motherboards were actually created witht he 450GX chipset
[23:19] <UserError> I'm talking about your DEs
[23:19] <UserError> None of the i686 platforms that currently exist meet the minimum specs
[23:19] <Viking667> AncientPC: hm.
[23:20] <Newb30> TJ: Alright, I'll try that
[23:20] <UserError> yet you compile to them and lose out on performance gains proven by intel since 2012
[23:20] <UserError> How many PentiumPros out there can run Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, or Xubuntu 13.10?
[23:20] <UserError> I can name them on one hand
[23:21] <UserError> So you're removing the performance benefit for everyone else
[23:21] <UserError> Even the VIA x86 cpus have MMX and SSE
[23:22] <chemist^> AncientPC, haha nick nickname :D
[23:24] <ianorlin> I run lubuntu 32 bit on a pentium 4
[23:26] <UserError> Exactly, and you are losing out on performance
[23:26] <UserError> due to machines that can't
[23:26] <UserError> That P4 has SSE3 even
[23:26] <Jordan_U> UserError: Ubuntu is used for headless servers as well, but more importantly you're not going to affect any policy change by trying to convince people in this channel.
[23:26] <UserError> Right, which is why i said DEs
[23:27] <UserError> from currently existing spins and the default
[23:28] <UserError> Jordan_U , that sounds like a bureaucracy problem then
[23:28] <Jordan_U> UserError: There is no separate package repository for "servers" vs "desktops", unless you're proposing having different compiler optimisation settings for different packages (in which case you're still not going to effect such a change through discussion in this channel).
[23:28] <UserError> That is exactly what i'm saying. THe automated build tools are already there
[23:29] <Jordan_U> UserError: Please file a bug report then requesting that be done then.
[23:30] <UserError> Unfortunately that requires an email address and login to launchpad
[23:30] <UserError> THere is no open way to convey the information
[23:30] <UserError> ironically
[23:31] <ianorlin> then why are you here?
[23:31] <maxxsire> Hey I have a problem. Every time I open a browser my computer gets real sluggish almost to the point of freezing and after about a half hour my browser completly terminates. I've had no problem for over a year and a half. It's been sluggish for over a month now and is getting worse. What should I do. Thanks in advance.
[23:31] <Jordan_U> UserError: Since this is not support related, please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:31] <UserError> Hoping someone will file it for me that already gave them their information
[23:31] <Jordan_U> maxxsire: What browser?
[23:31] <UserError> since it needs to be finally addressed in 2014
[23:32] <UserError> To address the speed issues per dollar spent on machine
[23:32] <UserError> which has gone down for the past three years
[23:32] <UserError> on Ubuntu
[23:32] <Jordan_U> UserError: Please stop the offtopic discussion in this channel.
[23:33] <maxxsire> Firefox, Chrome, Konqueror, you name it
[23:33] <jeffrey_f> maxxsire: what is your home page set to?
[23:33] <maxxsire> ubuntu google search
[23:33] <jeffrey_f> maxxsire:Memory?
[23:34] <maxxsire> 6 GB RAM
[23:35] <maxxsire> jeffrey_f: 6 GB Ram
[23:36] <AncientPC> hmm, the reason lightdm isn't working for me is because there's a package conflict for xserver-xorg.
[23:36] <AncientPC> while gdm works fine
[23:38] <AncientPC> I'm on 12.04 (precise), but all my xserver packages are from 12.10 (quantal). Something is screwy here...
[23:38] <maxxsire> My RAM runs at 10 to 30 percent and my CPU runs at 5 to 15 percent. vary rarely any higher than those.
[23:38] <Dinosaurio> Will be possible to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 with no problems?
[23:38] <AncientPC> I have no quantal lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, where could these quantal packages be coming from?
[23:39] <chemist^> Dinosaurio, i'd always suggest clean installs :)
[23:39] <maxxsire> How do you message someone like your messaging me?
[23:40] <AncientPC> maxxsire: /msg name message
[23:41] <Dinosaurio> chemist^: wouldn't that be a waste of time? I mean, I would need to spend a lot of time configurating all the programs again
[23:42] <chemist^> Dinosaurio, does it really take that much time?
[23:42] <maxxsire> What could it be? What can I do?
[23:43] <AncientPC> chemist^: It can be if you run a lot of customizations / server apps (e.g. postgres, nginx, supervisort, etc)
[23:43] <apb1963> [15:41] <apb1963> 12.04 is LTS
[23:43] <apb1963> [15:41] <Sho_> If they're not updating Qt, they're not "supporting" it
[23:43] <apb1963> [15:41] <PovAddictW> yes, but you should expect to get a Qt from April 2012
[23:43] <apb1963> Yes... yes I should.
[23:44] <AncientPC> chemist^: I also build a bunch of packages from scratch and use a bunch of PPAs, custom kernel modules, etc. You don't really want to go down the Windows road and get in the habit of reinstalling OSes.
[23:45] <TJ-> maxxsire: do you have a lot of open tabs saved?
[23:48] <TJ-> maxxsire: As you say it affects multiple browsers that would seem to rule-out local disk caching... when you say sluggish... sluggish how? For pages to be rendered after they are requested? For fully loaded pages to lag when interacting with them?
[23:50] <john__> /me
[23:56] <TJ-> maxxsire: I'd suggest you create a brand new clean user profile and log-in to that from a fresh reboot. Do some browsing, see if you can reproduce the issue. If you cannot, that tells you it is likely caused by some setting in your regular profile
[23:57] <Beldar> Dinosaurio, No problems is an opinion.
[23:57] <Dinosaurio> :)
[23:59] <jeffrey_f> maxxsire: you can try your guest profile if you still have it active.  That should always be vanilla.