[00:02] <Chance_> Is anyone still here?
[00:03] <knome> !anyone | Chance_
[00:03] <ubottu> Chance_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[00:03] <knome> (also, people from various timezones frequent the channel, so it's always possible to have somebody around)
[00:03] <Chance_> lol
[00:04] <Chance_> Okay wierd problem. I have a Lubuntu splash screen, an Ubuntu login screen, and when I log in, the OS is Xubuntu..
[00:05] <holstein> Chance_: if you were messing about removing things, that could likely be happening.. if everything is working, i would just use the system "as-is"
[00:05] <Unit193> plymouth-theme-lubuntu-logo or plymouth-theme-lubuntu-logo is installed, same with unity-greeter.
[00:07] <Chance_> wont even ask how to fix.
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[00:10] <Chance_> is it safe to delete GNOME/Openbox and Xfce Session?
[00:10] <holstein> Chance_: i would say, anything can be done safely.. for you, i would say, if you dont need the space, just leave them along. otherwise, have backups and plan for failure, and you'll always be able to recover
[00:10] <holstein> leave them alone*
[00:14] <Chance_> lol i guess i have OCD. i want to delete things that I dont use.
[00:16] <holstein> !mini | Chance_ you can always just start with the minimum and only add what you want
[00:16] <ubottu> Chance_ you can always just start with the minimum and only add what you want: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:17] <holstein> Chance_: you *can* delete what you dont use, but, you need to leave what other applications need in place, or they will have a hard time
[00:19] <Chance_> okay but the thing is, i have so much stuff installed from terminal, Synaptic package manager, and the Ubuntu software center and idk where it all goes
[00:19] <glenrock> as long as you're installing it all from the repos, it goes where it's supposed to go
[00:20] <holstein> Chance_: you might want to research where things go before installing them
[00:20] <Chance_> but i do not want them anymore
[00:20] <holstein> Chance_: you should be able to use any package manager
[00:20] <glenrock> you can apt-get remove packagename from terminal to remove it.   an apt-get autoremove will remove any unneeded turds that were left behind
[00:20] <Chance_> nevermind guys
[00:20] <holstein> Chance_: sure, and again you can remove them.. im just implying that you dont gain anything from it.. other than a little hard drive space
[00:21] <holstein> Chance_: if you want, try and ask more specifically.. "how do i remove x?"
[00:21] <holstein> specific*
[00:22] <Chance_> ok lets start here: how can i switch the splash screen back to xubuntu? im assuming theres a download in Synaptic Package Manager for that.
[00:22] <holstein> Chance_: its a config file AFAIK
[00:23] <Monkeytoe> hello
[00:24] <Chance_> okay.. a config file.. im more familiar with Windows so im clearly lost
[00:25] <Monkeytoe> maybe someone can help me out here. I am trying to find the font used on this site so I can load it into libreoffice calc. Inspecting the element shows font-family{ consolas, monospace } ... as I dont have consolas it must be using the default monospace... libreoffice calc has no option for monospace. Here is the page in question that shows the font. The column on the right. http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ppcbtc
[00:25] <holstein> Chance_: also, ts not so much like in windows where installed applications use resources. you can have openbox installed, and its not doing *anything* in th background
[00:26] <holstein> Chance_: this is a nice read on how someone changed splash screens http://askubuntu.com/questions/173329/what-alternatives-are-available-to-replace-the-purple-boot-splash-screen ..but its not an application that you need to add or remove. its a configuration that you changed installing and/or removing things
[00:26] <Monkeytoe> I also screenshotted the page to give an example of what the font looks like. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qt0xa3dmiw26cpm/fontexample.png
[00:27] <holstein> Chance_: also, keep in mind, you are not allowed to change anything about the splash screen in windows. all of the linux distros are able to theme and customize, and i think thats all that has happened to you. you have gotten some mixed art
[00:27] <Monkeytoe> That was taken from firefox on xubuntu 13.10
[00:27] <Monkeytoe> anyone have any idea how I can figure out what font this is?
[00:27] <Chance__> sorry I'm back
[00:27] <glenrock> Chance_: one more thing -- if you launch Ubuntu Software Center and then click the Installed button, it shows you everything you've installed from the repos.  This includes anything that was installed via the terminal, Software center, etc.
[00:29] <Chance__> i know that glenrock & that's what got me in trouble. i deleted something wrong i guess and when i rebooted, i got a mountall Plymouth error. im finally able to boot now but i have a lot of excess OS's and programs
[00:30] <holstein> Chance__: "arguably" excess.. keep in mind, reinstalltion should take less than 10 minutes. you can always reinstall, and in the future, experiement with either a live CD or a virtualized installation. in virtualbox, you can safe snapshots and easily revery
[00:30] <holstein> revert*
[00:32] <glenrock> Monkeytoe: try Ubuntu mono
[00:32] <glenrock> Monkeytoe: actually, that doesn't look like it
[00:33] <Monkeytoe> yeah ubuntu mono does not have a . in the 0
[00:33] <Monkeytoe> I cant for the life of me figure out what font this is
[00:33] <Monkeytoe> do you know if firefox bundles fonts?
[00:33] <Monkeytoe> or would this have to be a system font
[00:33] <holstein> i have a . in my 0
[00:34] <Monkeytoe> for ubuntu mono?
[00:34] <Monkeytoe> or just viewing the page
[00:34] <holstein> Monkeytoe: im in the terminal right now.. and i have .'s in my 0's.. it looks much like that
[00:34] <holstein> i am using system fixed width font
[00:34] <holstein> AFAIK, its the ubuntu one
[00:35] <glenrock> Monkeytoe: maybe try Liberation Mono too
[00:35] <glenrock> i think it would have to be a font you have on your system
[00:35] <holstein> its just "monospace"
[00:35] <holstein> when i specify.. and it looks like a monospace fixed width font
[00:35] <Monkeytoe> I see "monospace" in my terminal as well
[00:36] <Monkeytoe> and that is definantly the correct one
[00:36] <holstein> Monkeytoe: looks like it to me
[00:36] <Monkeytoe> The weird thing is... libreoffice calc does not have an option for monospace in the fonts
[00:36] <glenrock> wierd, but Libre doesn't give monospace as a choice
[00:44] <Monkeytoe> ok I think I found what is going on
[00:45] <Monkeytoe> in /usr/fonts/conf.avail there is a font called 58-dejavu-lgc-sans-mono.conf ... inside that <family>monospace</family><prefer><family>DejaVu LGC Sans Mono</family></prefer>
[00:47] <Chance__> how do i auto allow root access so i can delete files and stuff..?
[00:47] <knome> Chance__, please don't.
[00:47] <knome> Chance__, use sudo
[00:48] <Chance__> im in the File System
[00:48] <Chance__> when i right click, i cant move to trash
[00:48] <knome> Chance__, there's a reason why system files aren't easily deletable
[00:48] <glenrock> you shouldn't need to delete things that aren't in your home folder
[00:49] <glenrock> you uninstall with the package manager and the package manager cleans up
[00:51] <Chance__> i just want to get back the default splash screen.
[00:52] <glenrock> Chance__: if you execute this command from a terminal, does it give you multiple options?       sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[00:53] <glenrock> Chance__: hopefully you'll see a xubuntu option.   select it, then issue this command:   sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:54] <Chance__> yes glenrock
[00:54] <glenrock> Chance__: here's where i found that info:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2043534&p=12177312#post12177312
[00:57] <Chance__> genius! its fixed thanks
[00:58] <glenrock> welcome :)
[00:58] <Chance__> now to get rid of this GNU grub screen and just automatically boot into the OS
[01:26] <xubuntu768> anyone active?
[01:26] <knome> !anyone | xubuntu768
[01:26] <ubottu> xubuntu768: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[01:27] <xubuntu768> !details
[01:27] <ubottu> Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[01:31] <knome> xubuntu768, do you have a support question?
[01:41] <attrapereves> Does anyone know if the Radeon HD8400 is supported  under 13.10?
[01:43] <holstein> !ati | attrapereves
[01:43] <ubottu> attrapereves: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[01:47] <attrapereves> holstein, an update from earlier about the blank screen liveCD.
[01:47] <holstein> attrapereves: i would just install, and specify the vesa driver with a custom xorg.conf
[01:48] <attrapereves> I was able to fully boot Mint, but only after making a new xorg.conf. I believe it was using a basic driver
[01:48] <holstein> attrapereves: copye the xorg.conf from mint
[01:48] <attrapereves> I tried the same with xubuntu, but it does not get past "Loading Extension GLX"
[01:49] <holstein> attrapereves: you'll need to check the driver line, and make sure you have the driver installed. or specify the vesa driver there til you install the driver you want/need
[01:50] <attrapereves> so just replace "radeon" with "vesa"?
[01:50] <holstein> attrapereves: or, install the radeon driver that you need
[01:51] <holstein> attrapereves: as long as you know how to edit the xorg.conf from a live CD or TTY, you wont break anything.. backup the file
[01:55] <attrapereves> I have removed glx from the config file, but it keeps trying to load when I do "startx". What's going on?
[03:45] <toshiba-net> Hello! How do I get Xubuntu 12.04 LTS to recognize a 128GB SanDisk Ultra SDXC card? This card uses the exFAT memory format, but there's no such package in Synaptic on Xubuntu. Any advice?
[03:47] <well_laid_lawn> toshiba-net:  have you checked dmesg in a terminal to see what the kernel thinks of it?
[03:49] <well_laid_lawn> http://www.techlw.com/2012/09/how-to-mount-exfat-file-system-on.html
[03:53] <attrapereves> I was finally able to get my system to boot using a daily build of 14.04, but I am getting weird fonts in certain windows. It looks like Thai.
[05:03] <xubuntu972> wassuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
[05:03] <xubuntu972> wassuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
[06:50] <amireldor> Hi. Possible bug? I've just tried to change my profile picture under Xubuntu 13.10 and the user thumbnail under the 'users and groups' is well... not a button. I *did* manage to change my picture with ~/.face.
[06:51] <amireldor> That's Xfce 4.10
[10:40] <brainwash> amireldor: changing the profile picture via GUI will be possible starting with 14.04, you can find an overview about this new app here http://smdavis.us/2013/07/27/mugshot-quick-and-easy-user-config/
[10:47] <amireldor> brainwash, I saw somewhere on a Xfce forum where a user was told to click the profile image button and he was like: "oh, OK, that worked!"
[10:47] <amireldor> so I was wondering if maybe it's Xubuntu related
[10:48] <amireldor> and not general Xfce
[10:52] <amireldor> here is the thread: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=128110
[10:52] <amireldor> (it's Mint's forum, not Xfce as I thought)
[11:01] <knome> mint is not (x)ubuntu
[11:02] <knome> they are probably using a different greeter then
[11:02] <knome> (or login manager altogether)
[11:14] <amireldor> knome, it's supposed to be the same Xfce, isn't it? Xfce has it's own 'settings-manager' where I face the issue. Does the Xfce's in Xubuntu and Mint using a different settings-manager?
[11:23] <brainwash> amireldor: the settings manager is only an overview window, it displays system/user specific applications which allow the users to customize the desktop/system settings
[11:23] <brainwash> most of them are part of Xfce, others are not
[11:26] <amireldor> brainwash, ohhh so the "Users and Groups" there is a Xubuntu thing
[11:26] <amireldor> is the mugshot app gonna replace/integrate with "Users and Groups"?
[11:26] <brainwash> actually it's an outdated gnome 3.0 app to manage users and groups
[11:27] <brainwash> no, installing mugshot does not cause any trouble
[11:27] <amireldor> I meant in 14.04
[11:27] <brainwash> no, it's not a replacement
[11:31] <amireldor> It seems odd to me that a new non-technical user will have to create a ~/.face image, instead of intuitively use a 'pre-packed' GUI user manager.
[11:32] <brainwash> will be fixed in 14.04
[11:33] <amireldor> The Gnome app will be updated?
[11:33] <brainwash> mugshot will be shipped by default starting with 14.04
[11:43] <bazhang> what is mugshot brainwash
[11:44] <amireldor> bazhang, this is the link he gave me earlier regarding mugshot http://smdavis.us/2013/07/27/mugshot-quick-and-easy-user-config/
[11:45] <bazhang> amireldor, thanks
[15:22] <delt> Here's a good one: where is it stored which was the last session i opened? I thought it was ~/.dmrc, but changing that file doesn't seem to affect which one is selected by default.
[15:33] <stark> does mac4lin/macubuntu affect performance? will it slow down xubuntu?
[15:37] <stark> hello ? :O
[15:48] <xubuntu012> help! Want to install Xubuntu on a VM app (MAC, Parallels 8)
[16:00] <xubuntu012> weird, nobody answered
[16:06] <Calinou> it's not weird here, xu
[16:33] <Fohlen> hi guys, how could I change the profile picture upon the login screen in xubuntu 13.04? I tried that already, http://askubuntu.com/questions/47186/is-there-a-way-to-change-user-picture-in-xubuntu-and-actually-display-it-on-log
[16:33] <Fohlen> it shows my pic in User Manager, but it does not upon start screen
[16:34] <Fohlen> so I assume I might need to add it somewhere, or change the approached image size (pixels)?
[16:37] <Fohlen> I tried the ~/.face solution, but it seems to not work
[16:38] <Fohlen> Or better said, it shows the picture in User Manager, but not upon startup
[16:46] <brainwash> Fohlen: is your home folder encrypted?
[16:46] <Fohlen> yes
[16:46] <brainwash> so it won't work
[16:46] <Fohlen> brainwash, is there any workaround known?
[16:47] <Fohlen> or won't it work?
[16:48] <brainwash> yes, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/61637/where-is-the-users-profile-picture-stored-in-gnome-3
[16:49] <brainwash> it's possible via accountsservice which is installed by default
[16:50] <brainwash> you should copy your profile picture over to /var/lib/AccountsService/icons
[16:53] <Fohlen> thank you very much
[16:53] <Fohlen> though, /usr/share/pixmaps/faces should also work, shouldnt it?
[16:53] <Fohlen> as in the example
[16:53] <Fohlen> :)
[16:54] <brainwash> sure, you can move it anywhere you like and the system has access to it while you are not logged in
[17:32] <delt> hello
[17:33] <delt> how do i fix this compile / cmake error:
[17:33] <delt> ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in (some paths)
[17:37] <genii> delt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=FindKDE4Internal.cmake&mode=exactfilename&suite=saucy&arch=any
[17:45] <delt> genii: thanks
[18:23] <kblin> evening folks
[18:24] <kblin> is there a way to detect audio jack events in xubuntu?
[18:25] <kblin> I'm trying to get my system to normally play sounds via HDMI, but switch to headphones if I plug those in
[18:25] <kblin> so far, I have to manually switch output devices in the mixer settings, which is a bit annoying
[18:27] <apothecarius> hey guys, I have a really weird problem
[18:28] <apothecarius> i use xubuntu 12.04 on a really cheap laptop
[18:28] <apothecarius> and there seems to be a shell on the screen that receives all key input
[18:28] <apothecarius> whenever the return key is pressed the system logs out
[18:29] <apothecarius> btw the computer is configured to login automatically when booting up
[18:30] <Calinou> how to make screen not shut down after 15 minutes of inactivity?
[18:30] <Calinou> I seen a bug report about that, that PM features are broken under 13.10
[18:32] <kblin> the only thing that is consistently broken in 13.x ubuntus for me is the ability to hibernate from the GUI
[18:34] <brainwash> Calinou: you can change the timeout values via Settings Manager > Screensaver / Power Manager
[18:35] <Calinou> it doesn't work
[18:35] <Calinou> has NO effect
[18:35] <Calinou> that's the point of the bug report I've seen
[18:35] <brainwash> but Xubuntu is not affected
[18:35] <Calinou> it is, I experience it
[18:35] <Calinou> the bug report was for Xubuntu
[18:36] <brainwash> did you disable xscreensaver or xfce4-power-manager?
[18:36] <brainwash> well, please link the report then
[18:37] <Calinou> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1222021
[18:37] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [Medium,Triaged]
[18:38] <brainwash> you described a different issue
[18:42] <apothecarius> hey, right now im logged into the machine via SSH how can i deactivate the automatic login after booting
[18:44] <Sysi> Calinou: check /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[18:44] <Calinou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751926/
[18:44] <Calinou> also... I don't get it, I use upstart?
[18:46] <brainwash> + a crippled systemd implementation
[18:46] <glenrock> apothecarius: do a less on /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:46] <brainwash> Calinou: can you upload the output of "xset -q" please
[18:46] <glenrock> apothecarius: does it have a username next to autologin-user
[18:47] <apothecarius> yes glenrock, thank you
[18:47] <glenrock> np
[18:50] <Calinou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6751948/
[18:51] <brainwash> the Screen Saver timeout value is >0
[18:52] <brainwash> does changing the value via Settings Manager > Screensaver not work?
[18:53] <Calinou> meh, it's for another PC anyway
[18:53] <brainwash> and also make sure that xscreensaver is actually running the background
[18:53] <brainwash> in the background
[18:53] <Calinou> it isn't
[18:55] <brainwash> if you don't want to use xscreensaver, then you will have to add the command "xset s off" to your startup apps
[18:55] <XUBU> Im have problems with my GUI. I pressed Ctrl + Alt + F2 then CtrlAltF7 and when I got back to the homescreen, my display shrunk. hard to explain
[18:57] <XUBU> basically my homescreen shows at the top left, and the rest of the screen is just a solid color.
[19:00] <XUBU> fixed it.
[19:06] <kblin> Calinou: hm, you're right, I doesn't do anything for me either
[19:07] <Calinou> that bug has been around since a long time, but it got worse in 13.10
[19:14] <brainwash> Calinou: which bug?
[19:14] <Calinou> the power management one
[19:14] <Calinou> the one I mentioned
[19:17] <brainwash> how did it get worse in 13.10? if xscreensaver isn't running, then it won't override the timeout value
[19:19] <Calinou> in 13.10: clicking power button doesn't ask you before shutting down, and laptops always suspend when lid is closed
[19:19] <Calinou> regardless of setting
[19:21] <brainwash> yes, a workaround + patched version of xfce4-power-manager (PPA) available
[19:21] <brainwash> are available
[19:22] <brainwash> feel free to test the PPA
[19:22] <brainwash> some positive feedback might help to push this version into the official repo
[19:23] <recon_lap> nomodeset?
[19:23] <recon_lap> tell nomodeset
[19:23] <recon_lap> hmm
[19:23] <elfy> !nomodeset
[19:23] <ubottu> A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[19:24] <attrapereves> I am not able to get my battery indicator to show up. I have tried the setting under the power manager. Any other tips?
[19:24] <Calinou> brainwash, it's concerning that fixes like that (also sound indicator fix) still aren't merged in 3 months after release :P
[19:25] <brainwash> Calinou: sound indicator has been fixed
[19:25] <recon_lap> thx elfy :)
[19:25] <Calinou> not for me :/ had to fix it by hand
[19:27] <brainwash> Calinou: everyone is able to contribute, the source code is open, so everyone can write patches and try to improve Xubuntu
[19:28] <brainwash> this sound indicator issue wasn't easy to fix, on top of that, it has been broken by the ubuntu guys
[19:30] <Calinou> there was a fool proof fix on webupd8 :P
[19:30] <Calinou> worked on all DEs
[19:33] <elfy> and when there was time and people to do more with it then it was done
[19:33] <elfy> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[19:36] <kblin> Calinou: the sound stuff is fixed for me
[19:37] <Calinou> I fixed it by myself
[19:40] <kblin> I did that on an older install
[19:40] <kblin> but on recent fresh installs, it was broken after the install and then fixed itself after an apt-get upgrade
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[20:29] <Guest93060> hello
[20:29] <Guest93060> anyone free, have a short question
[20:30] <Calinou> ask it
[20:30] <ochosi> !ask
[20:30] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:30] <Guest93060> ok
[20:30] <Guest93060> i am on xubuntu lucid and replaced pulse audio with alsa
[20:30] <Guest93060> cantfigure out how to make logout sound work
[20:31] <Calinou> lucid is not supported anymore
[20:31] <Calinou> update to precise, or saucy
[20:31] <Guest93060> xubuntu 12.04?
[20:31] <Guest93060> ok
[20:31] <Calinou> yeah
[20:31] <Calinou> Lucid is 10.04
[20:31] <Calinou> PulseAudio got much better recently, and is less buggy than before
[20:32] <Guest93060> yes but once got rid of it and applied a few other tweaks my system works like a charm
[20:33] <xubuntu408> hello
[20:33] <Calinou> Lucid is not supported anymore
[20:33] <xubuntu408> im not using lucid
[20:34] <Guest93060> ok, thanks anyway, i suppose i wont be needing the log out sound, i tried to install canberra but it needs pulse audio
[20:34] <xubuntu408> hello
[20:34] <xubuntu408> i was wondering if i could get some help with something
[20:35] <Calinou> that's why you shouldn't remove PA
[20:35] <elfy> !ask | xubuntu408
[20:35] <ubottu> xubuntu408: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:35] <Calinou> xubuntu408, ask your question
[20:35] <xubuntu408> Disk Mount Error During Boot-Up
[20:36] <xubuntu408> ok got it
[20:39] <xubuntu408> Disk Mount Error During Boot-Up  is my problem how do i fix im new to linux so i wish i could be more specific
[20:40] <xubuntu408> thanks in advance
[20:51] <recon_lap> xubuntu408: you really need to describe what you did to install better than that.
[20:53] <recon_lap> xubuntu408: could you provide a link to the instructions you followed when installing ?
[21:28] <johnsnow> disk mount error on boot up
[21:29] <bekks> !details
[21:29] <ubottu> Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[21:42] <xubuntu704> need help with fixing mounting error