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ovidiu-florinI've already notified the Romanian Community00:12
ovidiu-florinfirst page translated to Ro :D00:12
valorieovidiu-florin: you rock00:14
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sgclarkwe are switching to Firefox as default in 14.04 right?00:30
valorieyes00:40
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1268690] package libqtdbus4 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/li... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1268690 (by dino99)01:16
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1269203] package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269203 (by Jonathan Mounier)01:16
ahoneybunsgclark: nice progress so far02:01
sgclarkty, on what? :)02:02
sgclarkahoneybun: can you look over software? I tried to integrate Muon Discover instructions where applicable02:05
ahoneybunsure I took to the Kubuntu Documentation Google+ page as well02:06
ahoneybunI'm wondering about Muon Discover as it seems decent but MSC is more stable02:06
ahoneybunyou put Moun02:09
sgclarkoops02:12
ahoneybunI got it :)02:12
ahoneybunguess we should fix that part about Firefox02:14
sgclarkI want to stick with discover due to the really easy interface02:14
sgclarkI added a Note, when this actually releases we can update that part02:14
ahoneybunI see02:15
ahoneybunfixed02:19
ahoneybunalso there was a link that was weird02:19
ahoneybunfix it as well02:19
sgclarkthank you02:21
ahoneybunnp02:21
ahoneybunPolish is coming up02:22
ahoneybunon the home page02:22
sgclarkSoftware look ok to mark?02:24
sgclarkahoneybun: ^^02:25
ahoneybunlet me check02:26
sgclarkbe back in a few mins02:27
ahoneybunsgclark: looks good02:34
ahoneybunomg the polish home page has been accessed more then the english one but it was just created02:35
sgclarknice :)02:37
ahoneybunamazing the home page is in 3 langs already02:38
ahoneybunnote sure if everyone knows about the other ones02:38
sgclarkwe are officially 100% ready for translators!02:38
sgclarkmove the userbase card to don in trello?02:39
ahoneybundone02:47
sgclarkcool ty :)02:47
ahoneybunits weird how just the home page has translations02:49
ahoneybunwell there is one from ovidiu-florin02:49
sgclarkCatalan has translation activity on all the pages02:53
sgclarkcept software, but that just went up for translation02:53
sgclarkIt is very early where translators are :)02:54
ahoneybuntrue02:54
ahoneybunvalorie: translations are incoming03:43
valorieI know!03:43
ahoneybunlol03:43
valoriemaybe I don't even need to write an email, except: thank you03:43
ahoneybunyea03:44
ahoneybunall the pages are ready now though03:44
valorieright, we still need the folks to show up and translate the strings03:48
ahoneybunyep just have to wait03:49
ahoneybunI also took to the Google+ page too03:51
valoriecool03:52
ahoneybunyep03:53
valorieI have a question: do you think it's a good idea to issue a call for translators to the Kubuntu-users list? 04:03
valorieor will that create more problems than it's worth04:03
valorieon the one hand, it's a lovely way to get people involved with KDE and Kubuntu04:04
valorieotoh, it is on KDE infra, and involves creating an Identity login, and learning the userbase wiki translation system04:04
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mattcenHi all. I'm looking for the SVG of the default Kubuntu 13.04 wallpaper. Anybody know where it is?06:20
valoriemattcen: this is not a support channel06:28
valorieI answered you in #kubuntu06:28
JamesFI want to install project neon 5 but am getting the error message while installin : http://www.pastebin.com/ZXDwSD7207:41
JamesFplease help :)07:41
valoriehey, JamesF, try #project-neon07:43
valoriealthough it's sort of early/late for the main developers07:43
shadeslayerJamesF: PN5 is not available for raring07:43
valorieha, shadeslayer makes a liar outa me07:44
shadeslayerheh, you forget I'm in IST07:44
shadeslayerJamesF: only available for Saucy/Trusty, we do not have the man power to maintain for more than 2 releases07:45
* shadeslayer goes back to 4.12.107:47
JamesFthanks valorie07:55
valorieheh07:55
JamesFthanks shadeslayer07:55
valorieyw, but shadeslayer does the work!07:55
lordievaderGood morning.08:03
soeehiho :)08:16
soeei see 4.12.1 for trusty almist ready :)08:16
shadeslayeryeah, ~almost08:29
shadeslayerjust need to update symbols for kdepimlibs08:29
shadeslayerbut my connection is so slow08:29
soee:)08:30
soeewhy so slow ? 08:31
valoriewhen shadeslayer was still living in India, he very often made this same complaint08:39
valorieguess where he is right now?08:39
soeeim sure nes not in Poland - hes internet is slow but works !08:41
valorieheh08:41
soee*his08:41
shadeslayerI have to wait for Strike Suit Zero to finish :(08:42
shadeslayeranother hour08:42
soeeshadeslayer: how much beer costs in India ?08:57
shadeslayerI have no clue08:57
shadeslayerbeen quite some time since I had to pay for beer in India08:57
soeeee so where are you now ? :)08:57
shadeslayerMy guess is 2 EUR for a bottle ..08:58
shadeslayer( on the higher side )08:58
shadeslayersoee: I am in India, but haven't had a chance to go out to drink yet08:58
shadeslayerpossibly in a couple of days or so08:58
soeeanyway i just sent £4,00 GBP by Kubuntu donation, it for you to buy some drink :)08:59
shadeslayerhaha :D08:59
shadeslayerthank you :)08:59
soeei have to set automatic monthly dontaion 09:04
valoriethat's awesome!09:04
shadeslayerindeed ^^09:05
soeethats not much for now but always something :)09:05
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1269297] package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269297 (by braykov)09:43
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Quintasanlol shadeslayer you alcoholic10:52
Quintasan:P10:52
shadeslayerwhut10:52
shadeslayery u call me alcoholic10:52
QuintasanBecause you drink all the time10:53
Quintasan:P10:53
shadeslayerI most certainly do not10:54
Quintasanshadeslayer: I say otherwise :P10:55
Quintasanshadeslayer: How does one sit through a lecture without idling on IRC?10:55
shadeslayerhaha10:55
shadeslayerQuintasan: college used to block IRC over wifi10:56
Quintasanahaahhaha10:56
Quintasanlet them try it10:56
QuintasanI'm just going to tunnel everything.10:56
shadeslayerthey blocked tunnelling too10:56
shadeslayerIIRC only port 80 was open10:56
QuintasanThen set up your VPN or SSH to port 8010:56
alvin+110:57
shadeslayerand 443 IIRC10:57
Quintasanlol10:57
alvinOr Quassel server10:57
shadeslayerwhere was I ... ah yeah, waiting for strike force zero to finish downloading while kdepim builds10:58
shadeslayerso tired / sleepy10:58
mitya57shadeslayer: Hm, bug 1269203 is still the same issue with -0ubuntu3 and native amd64 package11:40
ubottubug 1269203 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4', which is also in package libqt4-dbus:amd64 4:4.8.4+dfsg-0ubuntu22" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126920311:40
mitya57Should we have Breaks/Replaces: libqt4-dbus:any (<< 4:4.8.5)?11:41
* shadeslayer is confused by that bug report honestly11:42
shadeslayerif you have a i386 package, and upgrade, the i386 package will do the needful no?11:42
mitya57I've asked on #ubuntu-devel, hopefully there are some multiarch experts there11:48
BluesKajHiyas all12:36
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1269199] Qt library crashes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269199 (by Andrew)12:44
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apacheloggerMigrate to emacs policy v2.0: cmake-data no longer needs to depend on13:17
apachelogger    emacsen-common but pretty recent debhelper is needed at build time.13:17
* apachelogger sighs13:17
yofellet's just switch to here14:03
yofelI'm not particulary against updating qt for precise, but I think that wouldn't be a backport but updating the current precise backport14:04
yofelI can put that on my todo list, but don't expect me to hurry14:04
apacheloggeryofel: yeah, currently kubuntu-ppa/backports has 4.8.2 (release has 4.8.1)14:05
shadeslayermitya57: any news on the breaks/replaces issue?14:05
mitya57no :(14:05
apacheloggeryofel: I'd wait for 4.8.5 anyway, assuming that ever gets done ;)14:05
shadeslayercrap :/14:06
mitya57I'll have to leave soon, will try to resolve that tomorrow14:06
shadeslayerlikewise14:07
* mitya57 bbl14:16
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1269199] Qt library crashes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269199 (by Andrew)14:48
ovidiu-florinanyone going to conf.KDE.in ?14:49
mitya57shadeslayer: we kind of resolved the qt issue, the version in terminal log is ubuntu1, not ubuntu3, so it looks like a wrong version number inserted by apport16:49
apacheloggerRiddell, shadeslayer, yofel: we have a new QA date on Mar 10 for exploratory testing (actually may move forward a couple of days still)16:50
apacheloggerhowever, after feature freeze the entire l10n and ISO review madness starts, so..16:51
apacheloggersometime between Feb20 and Mar10 anyway ^^16:51
Riddellapachelogger: exploratory testing?17:05
apacheloggerRiddell: you take the thing and play with it17:13
apacheloggerwait that sounds wrong17:13
apachelogger:O17:13
apacheloggeryet the most accurate description17:13
apacheloggerRiddell: https://trello.com/c/RLNf1YdS17:14
apacheloggerfreestyle quality control that is17:14
sgclarkany ninja available to please help me with my symbols problem I sent to list? I have been fighting with this package much to long..17:20
Riddellsgclark: sorry am behind on e-mail and other useful things, what's up?17:26
sgclarkthere are no .so files in lib, just an .a file17:27
sgclarkso I can't gensymbols17:27
Riddellcor, what package is this?17:27
sgclarkkdoctools17:27
sgclarkbeen a bit of a nightmare package17:27
Riddellif there's no .so that's presumably deliberate and no .symbols is needed17:27
sgclarkok thanks, will be ready for you in a few mins then17:28
sgclarkon to tier 3?17:28
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Riddellgo for it :)17:30
sgclarka tier 3 package that depends on a tier 3 package? does that sound right?18:03
RiddellI've not worked out what makes it a tier 3 package and what makes it a tier 4 package18:04
Riddellbut yes I believe lots do depend on other tier 318:04
sgclarkoh ok18:04
Riddellso you might have to work out a good order to package them in18:04
Riddellagateau might be able to help with diagams18:04
sgclarkI thought it was a dependency structure18:04
Riddellhttp://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/kf5_big_0.png18:05
Riddelllooks like kconfigwidgets is the place to start18:05
sgclarkyep :) starting that now18:06
sgclarkthanks for the link, that will help18:06
shadeslayermitya57: awesome18:28
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soee_shadeslayer: only perlkde left ?18:53
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1269526] package libqtdbus4 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir `/u... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269526 (by Alan)18:57
Quintasanshadeslayer: Can you into java Threads?19:12
Quintasanchrist19:33
Quintasanyofel: ping19:33
yofelhm?19:33
Quintasanyofel: Can you into java threads?19:33
QuintasanSomehow my thread doesn't get exectuted immediately after start for some reason19:34
Quintasanyofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6757962/19:35
QuintasanThis is probably crap but we are supposed to somehow illustrate what happens when you don't synchronize19:35
yofelLet's see if I remember how that works. I hardly ever had a situation where Threads didn't just introduce pain.19:38
QuintasanWe are supposed to show that pain on Collections when not using synchronize and I just can't get it to not work19:39
Quintasanas in if thread B is started after thread A and they operate on the same value then it's obvious that changes made in thread B should be present19:39
Quintasanin this case changes from A take place and B is executed AFTER the last showStatus for some reason19:40
soee_yofel: can you take a look at this  reds: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.1_trusty.html ?19:48
yofelQuintasan: hm, my observation: a) you have 3 Threads (main, t1, t2), so demo.show() will be run at a random execution point of t1 and t2. b) t1 and t2 are possibly so short that t1 is done executing far before t2 is even done starting20:06
yofelif I make t1 and t2 run their modifications 10000 times and delay the show with a few msec sleep then I get a different end result on pretty much every run20:07
yofelwhich is what you wanted?20:07
yofelQuintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758166/ is what I made out of it20:13
Quintasanyofel: You just made both of the Threads do it4564656 times and asked the Main thread to sleep?20:21
Quintasanchrist20:21
yofelwell, I made both threads do it for 10000 times each, and let the main thread sleep for 100msec20:22
yofel10000 times is long enough so t1 is still running when t2 starts - most of the time20:22
QuintasanI see.20:23
QuintasanWell, guess I'll just keep that in mind when I have to do something like this20:24
Quintasanyofel: Thanks.20:24
yofelnp20:24
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1239173] qt4-x11 - binaries linked against libQtCore don't start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1239173 (by Matthias Klose)21:02
geniiThat one sounds serious21:31
soeeany idea how to check why lightdm wont start ?21:46
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1269297] package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269297 (by braykov)22:05

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