[00:12] <ovidiu-florin> I've already notified the Romanian Community
[00:12] <ovidiu-florin> first page translated to Ro :D
[00:14] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: you rock
[00:30] <sgclark> we are switching to Firefox as default in 14.04 right?
[00:40] <valorie> yes
[01:16] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1268690] package libqtdbus4 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/li... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1268690 (by dino99)
[01:16] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1269203] package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269203 (by Jonathan Mounier)
[02:01] <ahoneybun> sgclark: nice progress so far
[02:02] <sgclark> ty, on what? :)
[02:05] <sgclark> ahoneybun: can you look over software? I tried to integrate Muon Discover instructions where applicable
[02:06] <ahoneybun> sure I took to the Kubuntu Documentation Google+ page as well
[02:06] <ahoneybun> I'm wondering about Muon Discover as it seems decent but MSC is more stable
[02:09] <ahoneybun> you put Moun
[02:12] <sgclark> oops
[02:12] <ahoneybun> I got it :)
[02:14] <ahoneybun> guess we should fix that part about Firefox
[02:14] <sgclark> I want to stick with discover due to the really easy interface
[02:14] <sgclark> I added a Note, when this actually releases we can update that part
[02:15] <ahoneybun> I see
[02:19] <ahoneybun> fixed
[02:19] <ahoneybun> also there was a link that was weird
[02:19] <ahoneybun> fix it as well
[02:21] <sgclark> thank you
[02:21] <ahoneybun> np
[02:22] <ahoneybun> Polish is coming up
[02:22] <ahoneybun> on the home page
[02:24] <sgclark> Software look ok to mark?
[02:25] <sgclark> ahoneybun: ^^
[02:26] <ahoneybun> let me check
[02:27] <sgclark> be back in a few mins
[02:34] <ahoneybun> sgclark: looks good
[02:35] <ahoneybun> omg the polish home page has been accessed more then the english one but it was just created
[02:37] <sgclark> nice :)
[02:38] <ahoneybun> amazing the home page is in 3 langs already
[02:38] <ahoneybun> note sure if everyone knows about the other ones
[02:38] <sgclark> we are officially 100% ready for translators!
[02:39] <sgclark> move the userbase card to don in trello?
[02:47] <ahoneybun> done
[02:47] <sgclark> cool ty :)
[02:49] <ahoneybun> its weird how just the home page has translations
[02:49] <ahoneybun> well there is one from ovidiu-florin
[02:53] <sgclark> Catalan has translation activity on all the pages
[02:53] <sgclark> cept software, but that just went up for translation
[02:54] <sgclark> It is very early where translators are :)
[02:54] <ahoneybun> true
[03:43] <ahoneybun> valorie: translations are incoming
[03:43] <valorie> I know!
[03:43] <ahoneybun> lol
[03:43] <valorie> maybe I don't even need to write an email, except: thank you
[03:44] <ahoneybun> yea
[03:44] <ahoneybun> all the pages are ready now though
[03:48] <valorie> right, we still need the folks to show up and translate the strings
[03:49] <ahoneybun> yep just have to wait
[03:51] <ahoneybun> I also took to the Google+ page too
[03:52] <valorie> cool
[03:53] <ahoneybun> yep
[04:03] <valorie> I have a question: do you think it's a good idea to issue a call for translators to the Kubuntu-users list? 
[04:03] <valorie> or will that create more problems than it's worth
[04:04] <valorie> on the one hand, it's a lovely way to get people involved with KDE and Kubuntu
[04:04] <valorie> otoh, it is on KDE infra, and involves creating an Identity login, and learning the userbase wiki translation system
[06:20] <mattcen> Hi all. I'm looking for the SVG of the default Kubuntu 13.04 wallpaper. Anybody know where it is?
[06:28] <valorie> mattcen: this is not a support channel
[06:28] <valorie> I answered you in #kubuntu
[07:41] <JamesF> I want to install project neon 5 but am getting the error message while installin : http://www.pastebin.com/ZXDwSD72
[07:41] <JamesF> 		please help :)
[07:43] <valorie> hey, JamesF, try #project-neon
[07:43] <valorie> although it's sort of early/late for the main developers
[07:43] <shadeslayer> JamesF: PN5 is not available for raring
[07:44] <valorie> ha, shadeslayer makes a liar outa me
[07:44] <shadeslayer> heh, you forget I'm in IST
[07:45] <shadeslayer> JamesF: only available for Saucy/Trusty, we do not have the man power to maintain for more than 2 releases
[07:47]  * shadeslayer goes back to 4.12.1
[07:55] <JamesF> thanks valorie
[07:55] <valorie> heh
[07:55] <JamesF> thanks shadeslayer
[07:55] <valorie> yw, but shadeslayer does the work!
[08:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:16] <soee> hiho :)
[08:16] <soee> i see 4.12.1 for trusty almist ready :)
[08:29] <shadeslayer> yeah, ~almost
[08:29] <shadeslayer> just need to update symbols for kdepimlibs
[08:29] <shadeslayer> but my connection is so slow
[08:30] <soee> :)
[08:31] <soee> why so slow ? 
[08:39] <valorie> when shadeslayer was still living in India, he very often made this same complaint
[08:39] <valorie> guess where he is right now?
[08:41] <soee> im sure nes not in Poland - hes internet is slow but works !
[08:41] <valorie> heh
[08:41] <soee> *his
[08:42] <shadeslayer> I have to wait for Strike Suit Zero to finish :(
[08:42] <shadeslayer> another hour
[08:57] <soee> shadeslayer: how much beer costs in India ?
[08:57] <shadeslayer> I have no clue
[08:57] <shadeslayer> been quite some time since I had to pay for beer in India
[08:57] <soee> ee so where are you now ? :)
[08:58] <shadeslayer> My guess is 2 EUR for a bottle ..
[08:58] <shadeslayer> ( on the higher side )
[08:58] <shadeslayer> soee: I am in India, but haven't had a chance to go out to drink yet
[08:58] <shadeslayer> possibly in a couple of days or so
[08:59] <soee> anyway i just sent £4,00 GBP by Kubuntu donation, it for you to buy some drink :)
[08:59] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[08:59] <shadeslayer> thank you :)
[09:04] <soee> i have to set automatic monthly dontaion 
[09:04] <valorie> that's awesome!
[09:05] <shadeslayer> indeed ^^
[09:05] <soee> thats not much for now but always something :)
[09:43] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1269297] package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269297 (by braykov)
[10:52] <Quintasan> lol shadeslayer you alcoholic
[10:52] <Quintasan> :P
[10:52] <shadeslayer> whut
[10:52] <shadeslayer> y u call me alcoholic
[10:53] <Quintasan> Because you drink all the time
[10:53] <Quintasan> :P
[10:54] <shadeslayer> I most certainly do not
[10:55] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I say otherwise :P
[10:55] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: How does one sit through a lecture without idling on IRC?
[10:55] <shadeslayer> haha
[10:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: college used to block IRC over wifi
[10:56] <Quintasan> ahaahhaha
[10:56] <Quintasan> let them try it
[10:56] <Quintasan> I'm just going to tunnel everything.
[10:56] <shadeslayer> they blocked tunnelling too
[10:56] <shadeslayer> IIRC only port 80 was open
[10:56] <Quintasan> Then set up your VPN or SSH to port 80
[10:57] <alvin> +1
[10:57] <shadeslayer> and 443 IIRC
[10:57] <Quintasan> lol
[10:57] <alvin> Or Quassel server
[10:58] <shadeslayer> where was I ... ah yeah, waiting for strike force zero to finish downloading while kdepim builds
[10:58] <shadeslayer> so tired / sleepy
[11:40] <mitya57> shadeslayer: Hm, bug 1269203 is still the same issue with -0ubuntu3 and native amd64 package
[11:41] <mitya57> Should we have Breaks/Replaces: libqt4-dbus:any (<< 4:4.8.5)?
[11:42]  * shadeslayer is confused by that bug report honestly
[11:42] <shadeslayer> if you have a i386 package, and upgrade, the i386 package will do the needful no?
[11:48] <mitya57> I've asked on #ubuntu-devel, hopefully there are some multiarch experts there
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:44] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1269199] Qt library crashes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269199 (by Andrew)
[13:17] <apachelogger> Migrate to emacs policy v2.0: cmake-data no longer needs to depend on
[13:17] <apachelogger>     emacsen-common but pretty recent debhelper is needed at build time.
[13:17]  * apachelogger sighs
[14:03] <yofel> let's just switch to here
[14:04] <yofel> I'm not particulary against updating qt for precise, but I think that wouldn't be a backport but updating the current precise backport
[14:04] <yofel> I can put that on my todo list, but don't expect me to hurry
[14:05] <apachelogger> yofel: yeah, currently kubuntu-ppa/backports has 4.8.2 (release has 4.8.1)
[14:05] <shadeslayer> mitya57: any news on the breaks/replaces issue?
[14:05] <mitya57> no :(
[14:05] <apachelogger> yofel: I'd wait for 4.8.5 anyway, assuming that ever gets done ;)
[14:06] <shadeslayer> crap :/
[14:06] <mitya57> I'll have to leave soon, will try to resolve that tomorrow
[14:07] <shadeslayer> likewise
[14:16]  * mitya57 bbl
[14:48] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1269199] Qt library crashes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269199 (by Andrew)
[14:49] <ovidiu-florin> anyone going to conf.KDE.in ?
[16:49] <mitya57> shadeslayer: we kind of resolved the qt issue, the version in terminal log is ubuntu1, not ubuntu3, so it looks like a wrong version number inserted by apport
[16:50] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: we have a new QA date on Mar 10 for exploratory testing (actually may move forward a couple of days still)
[16:51] <apachelogger> however, after feature freeze the entire l10n and ISO review madness starts, so..
[16:51] <apachelogger> sometime between Feb20 and Mar10 anyway ^^
[17:05] <Riddell> apachelogger: exploratory testing?
[17:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: you take the thing and play with it
[17:13] <apachelogger> wait that sounds wrong
[17:13] <apachelogger> :O
[17:13] <apachelogger> yet the most accurate description
[17:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://trello.com/c/RLNf1YdS
[17:14] <apachelogger> freestyle quality control that is
[17:20] <sgclark> any ninja available to please help me with my symbols problem I sent to list? I have been fighting with this package much to long..
[17:26] <Riddell> sgclark: sorry am behind on e-mail and other useful things, what's up?
[17:27] <sgclark> there are no .so files in lib, just an .a file
[17:27] <sgclark> so I can't gensymbols
[17:27] <Riddell> cor, what package is this?
[17:27] <sgclark> kdoctools
[17:27] <sgclark> been a bit of a nightmare package
[17:27] <Riddell> if there's no .so that's presumably deliberate and no .symbols is needed
[17:28] <sgclark> ok thanks, will be ready for you in a few mins then
[17:28] <sgclark> on to tier 3?
[17:30] <Riddell> go for it :)
[18:03] <sgclark> a tier 3 package that depends on a tier 3 package? does that sound right?
[18:04] <Riddell> I've not worked out what makes it a tier 3 package and what makes it a tier 4 package
[18:04] <Riddell> but yes I believe lots do depend on other tier 3
[18:04] <sgclark> oh ok
[18:04] <Riddell> so you might have to work out a good order to package them in
[18:04] <Riddell> agateau might be able to help with diagams
[18:04] <sgclark> I thought it was a dependency structure
[18:05] <Riddell> http://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/kf5_big_0.png
[18:05] <Riddell> looks like kconfigwidgets is the place to start
[18:06] <sgclark> yep :) starting that now
[18:06] <sgclark> thanks for the link, that will help
[18:28] <shadeslayer> mitya57: awesome
[18:53] <soee_> shadeslayer: only perlkde left ?
[18:57] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1269526] package libqtdbus4 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir `/u... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269526 (by Alan)
[19:12] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Can you into java Threads?
[19:33] <Quintasan> christ
[19:33] <Quintasan> yofel: ping
[19:33] <yofel> hm?
[19:33] <Quintasan> yofel: Can you into java threads?
[19:34] <Quintasan> Somehow my thread doesn't get exectuted immediately after start for some reason
[19:35] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6757962/
[19:35] <Quintasan> This is probably crap but we are supposed to somehow illustrate what happens when you don't synchronize
[19:38] <yofel> Let's see if I remember how that works. I hardly ever had a situation where Threads didn't just introduce pain.
[19:39] <Quintasan> We are supposed to show that pain on Collections when not using synchronize and I just can't get it to not work
[19:39] <Quintasan> as in if thread B is started after thread A and they operate on the same value then it's obvious that changes made in thread B should be present
[19:40] <Quintasan> in this case changes from A take place and B is executed AFTER the last showStatus for some reason
[19:48] <soee_> yofel: can you take a look at this  reds: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.1_trusty.html ?
[20:06] <yofel> Quintasan: hm, my observation: a) you have 3 Threads (main, t1, t2), so demo.show() will be run at a random execution point of t1 and t2. b) t1 and t2 are possibly so short that t1 is done executing far before t2 is even done starting
[20:07] <yofel> if I make t1 and t2 run their modifications 10000 times and delay the show with a few msec sleep then I get a different end result on pretty much every run
[20:07] <yofel> which is what you wanted?
[20:13] <yofel> Quintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758166/ is what I made out of it
[20:21] <Quintasan> yofel: You just made both of the Threads do it4564656 times and asked the Main thread to sleep?
[20:21] <Quintasan> christ
[20:22] <yofel> well, I made both threads do it for 10000 times each, and let the main thread sleep for 100msec
[20:22] <yofel> 10000 times is long enough so t1 is still running when t2 starts - most of the time
[20:23] <Quintasan> I see.
[20:24] <Quintasan> Well, guess I'll just keep that in mind when I have to do something like this
[20:24] <Quintasan> yofel: Thanks.
[20:24] <yofel> np
[21:02] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1239173] qt4-x11 - binaries linked against libQtCore don't start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1239173 (by Matthias Klose)
[21:31] <genii> That one sounds serious
[21:46] <soee> any idea how to check why lightdm wont start ?
[22:05] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1269297] package libqtdbus4 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1269297 (by braykov)