| KI7MT | Question, how do we maintain the LTS help for desktop, is is merely frozen in time when the LTS is releases? | 00:13 |
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| KI7MT | *is it? | 00:13 |
| godbyk | I think we can release updates after the initial Ubuntu release, but I'm not sure. | 00:16 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: In theory we can do SRU updates. In practice we have not. Actually, we just missed a language pack update release. Why? Because I saw the notice, but then forgot. | 00:16 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: For serverguide (I know you were aksing about DeskTop) there is no SRU requirement, becuase it is not a package. | 00:17 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, Yeah, there's only so many hours ins a day .. is there's a schedule posted for this? I have the LTS release skeds, but it does't have that level of detail on it. | 00:18 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: The help.ubunut.com version of stuff does deviate a tiny bit from the DeskTop package, if we decide it is O.K. | 00:18 |
| dsmythies | godbyk: Recall the footer change, for example. | 00:18 |
| dsmythies | gobbyk: I want to change the order of some lines on the spreadsheet. Why? becuase I am trying to compate line by line with an Excel spread sheet I made from a directory listing, which I thn fed through a sort. Long sotry short, it is drving me nuts becuase the sort orders are not the same. | 00:21 |
| dsmythies | godbyk: Is that O.K. with you? | 00:22 |
| godbyk | dsmythies: Yeah, go for it! | 00:22 |
| dsmythies | godbyk: O.K. | 00:23 |
| godbyk | At one point the spreadsheet was in alphabetical order, but I think new pages were tacked on later. | 00:23 |
| godbyk | When I originally created the spreadsheet, it was just an alphabetized list of all the .page files. | 00:23 |
| dsmythies | godbyk: yes, but "ls -l" is weird for period and -. so I sorted using a dosbox and windows sort and still have grief. | 00:24 |
| godbyk | ah | 00:25 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: Are you able to select spreadsheet cell number A322? I can not select it, but rather get turfed to cell A325. (not that it matters right now.) (windows-key.page line) | 01:06 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, Hold on I'll go check. | 01:07 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: looks O.K> for you. | 01:08 |
| KI7MT | Yep, I can select it. | 01:09 |
| dsmythies | hmmm... I'm done, so I think I'll close my broswer and try again later. Thanks. | 01:09 |
| KI7MT | Ok CUL | 01:10 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: godbyk: Spreadsheet and files should now compare, except those new ones KI7MT is adding, that are not yet master docs. | 01:11 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: godbyk: Spreadsheet and files should now compare, except those new ones KI7MT is adding, that are not yet in master docs. | 01:12 |
| godbyk | dsmythies: Cool. Thanks for your help. | 01:12 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, Have you looked at or played with the Files Application (new version of Nautulis File Manager) in Trusty? | 05:09 |
| dsmythies | Ki7MT: Yes I have. | 05:30 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: I use it often, because I have absolutely no clue how to navigate around the help system. So almost universally, I use the "files" thingy to select the .page file I want to look at and then right click and select "open with" then select help. Then I pop up levels to figure out it got there. | 05:33 |
| KI7MT | All I can say is, that interface is Horrible. | 05:34 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: I like it. | 05:34 |
| KI7MT | They removed all the menu's, and stuck a few icons up all the system icons and that's it. | 05:35 |
| KI7MT | *stuck icons near system icons | 05:35 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: There is some text if you hover over the icons. | 05:37 |
| KI7MT | Just my opinion, I think that interface not very good at all. | 05:38 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: I am adding a note to the MP. | 05:41 |
| KI7MT | Most apps, certainly not all, still have a top bar menu system of some kind, even if they stick cryptic icons here and there. The Files Apps removed them I guess, maybe an oversight, intentional I don't know. | 05:41 |
| KI7MT | What MP ? | 05:42 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: https://code.launchpad.net/~ki7mt/ubuntu-docs/lp1269100-fix/+merge/201679 | 05:43 |
| godbyk | KI7MT: It's intentional. A number of other GNOME apps are following suit (e.g., Evince). | 05:44 |
| KI7MT | godbyk, Yeah, but in Unity we dont have the short cuts in place that they do in Gnome3 | 05:45 |
| godbyk | I think the Ubuntu devs are trying to bring back some pull-down menus for some of those apps. | 05:46 |
| KI7MT | Of the two, I find the Gnome DE much easier to Navigate, but not always as easy to use, if that make sense. | 05:46 |
| KI7MT | wow, there's 18 files in the files-x.page group. | 05:52 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, I got you email, I guess it can wait until some picks up editing the document-x.page files then, as there a mess. | 05:54 |
| KI7MT | I need to install Gnome3 on my desktop .. I'm writing up some cheat-sheets and Gedit Code Snippets. | 05:56 |
| KI7MT | for Mallard that is. | 05:57 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: I am not clear on what you saying. Are you saying you are bailing on the MP? | 06:00 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, If you don't like it, reject, I put what I thought was best on it, you strongly disagree, not much more need be said really. | 06:02 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: O.K. thanks for clarifying. And thanks again for helping. I'll take over the MP from here. | 06:03 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, Ok, sorry was on my other box. Ok will take those off my task list then. | 06:09 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, there's a bug open for the other 11 document-x.page files, may want to work that file with the other, but is up to you. | 06:15 |
| KI7MT | dsmythies, I moved the bug back to new, and put it back to unassigned .. I'll put the branch and you can start clean on this. | 06:28 |
| KI7MT | *pull the branch | 06:29 |
| dsmythies | KI7MT: Ugh oh... That isn't what I wanted at all. I was planning to accep the MP but restore a portion of documents-viewgrid.page at the same time. It would then need further editing, in future, as part of the overhaul that you correctly pointed out all of that group of files needs. | 07:25 |
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