[05:21] <superfly> maaz: tell kilos good morning
[05:21] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:49] <Kilos> morning all
[06:52] <Kilos> lte today , been fighting modem that wouldnt work even though connected. hehe no data on
[06:52] <Kilos> s/lte/late
[07:01] <Kilos> sigh!
[07:01] <Kilos> hi mazal bduk1 
[07:05] <mazal> Môre oom
[07:12] <Kilos> lo Gotango 
[07:12] <Gotango> Hi Kilos
[07:12] <Kilos> found out what was the prob with the airtime ian got me
[07:12] <Kilos> the twit got lanline airtime
[07:13] <Gotango> Nice , lol that's just stupid
[07:14] <Kilos> yeah too busy playing with whatsapp on cell to concentrate
[07:14] <Kilos> frustrates me no end
[07:15] <Gotango> Ya , The bbm's, and whatsapps can distract the young mind alot
[07:15] <Gotango> its good to take a break from it now and again
[07:15] <Kilos> he is 36 or 37 man
[07:17] <Gotango> oh , then only explination is female based or as you said just a twit lol
[07:21] <Kilos> sigh
[07:21] <Gotango> Wb Kilos
[07:21] <Kilos> ty stupid modem disconnecxted
[07:22] <Kilos> one day ill get a telkom usb modem
[07:22] <Gotango> Aslong as it does'nt happen alot it should be fine
[07:23] <Gotango> Thats good
[07:23] <Kilos> this is ians zte that cant work on windows and he has my never die arab modem
[07:25] <Gotango> Aah , the kids gotta have the best :)
[07:26] <Kilos> na it was me that felt sorry for him because he works with win clients all the time
[07:27] <Kilos> i even installed teamviewer here so he could fix clients pcs
[07:28] <Gotango> Oh then more reason for him to have it , until he can get his own one
[07:28] <Kilos> yeah
[07:30] <Gotango> Is jupiter a good option for hardware configuration, i see it aint in synaptics
[07:31] <Kilos> the hardware in your pc?
[07:31] <Kilos> what do you wanna configure
[07:32] <Gotango> Yes
[07:32] <Kilos> to see hardware type in lspci
[07:32] <Kilos> but i dunno what you wanna conf
[07:32] <Gotango> Features
[07:32] <Gotango>  Automatically adjusts CPU mode for AC or battery
[07:32] <Gotango>  Automatically tunes the kernel for AC or battery
[07:32] <Gotango>  Automatically tunes hardware for AC or battery
[07:32] <Gotango>  Supports Asus Super Hybrid Engine (SHE)
[07:32] <Gotango>  Remembers and applies last selected configuration
[07:32] <Gotango>  Fast and efficient, low resource utilization
[07:32] <Gotango>  Easily Customizable
[07:32] <Gotango> Install jupiter in ubuntu
[07:32] <Gotango> Open the terminal and run the following commands
[07:32] <Gotango> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/jupiter
[07:32] <Gotango>  sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <Gotango>  sudo apt-get install jupiter
[07:33] <Gotango> The aboove
[07:33] <Gotango> above*
[07:33] <Kilos> na i dont need that stuff. mine works
[07:34] <Gotango> I'm gona install it after the graphics driver update
[07:35] <Gotango> Also gona remove all nvidia stuff after the graphics update
[07:36] <Kilos> ok
[07:36] <Gotango> Am i still your student ?
[07:36] <Kilos> ya
[07:36] <Gotango> oh
[07:36] <Kilos> lol
[07:37] <Gotango> It seems i graduated myself in some weird way lol
[07:38] <Kilos> thats the modern way. we'll see if you need help still. that will define who is the student
[07:38] <Kilos> like matrics pass and want managerial posts to start working
[07:39] <Kilos> sigh
[07:39] <Gotango> Ya true
[07:46] <bduk1> Morning All
[07:48] <Gotango> Hi bduk1
[08:02] <Gotango> Hi Vince-0
[08:02] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:10] <Kilos> ai! change mouse and knock power cvable out
[08:11] <Kilos> cable too
[08:11] <Vince-0> Hi
[08:28] <Kilos> wb Gotango somaunn 
[08:29] <Kilos> hi Squirm all good?
[08:31] <Gotango> ty Kilos
[08:34] <Squirm> morning
[08:34] <Squirm> Kilos: all good
[08:34] <Squirm> that side?
[08:34] <Kilos> yeah good ty
[08:35] <Gotango> Hey Squirm and somaunn
[09:20] <Kilos> hi Xethron psyatw 
[09:21]  * Kilos greets the fly
[09:25] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:25] <psyatw> hi Xethron
[09:25] <Xethron> hi hi
[09:28] <Gotango> hey Xethron and psyatw
[09:29] <charl> good morning
[09:30] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:30]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:30] <charl> hi psyatw, Xethron, Gotango, Kilos 
[09:30] <Gotango> Hi charl
[09:30] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:30] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[09:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[09:30] <psyatw> hi charl
[09:30] <somaunn> Hi All
[09:31] <Kilos> Gotango, if you really tight with data you open maaz in pm and get hime to google for you. then you get 4 best links
[09:31] <Gotango> I see Kilos, thanks
[09:32] <Gotango> I just wana get java to work right here though and run opera mini emulator without needing to use 50% cpu. I used to save tons of data with that
[09:33] <psyatw> hi Gotango
[09:33] <psyatw> hi somaunn
[09:33] <psyatw> I download the JDK and put it in my path
[09:33] <Gotango> 30kb to open a 500kb webpage
[09:34] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[09:34] <Gotango> psyatw i got the OpenJDK here
[09:35] <Gotango> I think thats the issue , since OpenJDK is not the real java JRE
[09:38] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[09:38] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[09:38] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[09:41] <charl> Maaz: thank you
[09:41] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[09:57] <Kilos> holy moly
[09:57] <Kilos> https://imageshack.com/i/n86ammj
[10:24] <charl> what does the bat say
[10:25] <charl> that bat probably swallows a human whole
[10:25] <Kilos> massive hey
[10:25] <Kilos> unreal
[10:25] <Gotango> lol , SAPS can use that thing to catch criminals from the sky
[10:25] <Kilos> lol
[10:26] <Gotango> Those claws can decap a head lol
[10:26] <Kilos> yeah
[10:27] <charl> i hear bats take small children
[10:27] <Kilos> i wonder if its not a hoax
[10:27] <charl> if that bat is a vampire then it would suck you dry, literally
[10:27] <Kilos> surely you dont get bats that size
[10:28] <charl> that thing will have you for breakfast and then get peckish around 11
[10:29] <Gotango> lol
[10:29] <Kilos> hehe
[10:29] <charl> sorry i am being lame, i go back to work now
[10:29] <Gotango> cool movie prop though
[10:31] <Gotango> Big grasshopper thing at the back too
[11:35] <Kilos> aw my buntu appy died
[11:53] <Gotango> Hmm , one never seems to know when a program is active or not from the dash. Everything looks as if its running ai.
[11:54] <Kilos> huh
[11:55] <Gotango> Why aint the "not running" programs labeled in a disabled type icon ?
[11:56] <Gotango> Like greyed out or something, those colors makes it look like the program is on
[11:56] <Kilos> havent they got tick blocks
[11:57] <Gotango> oh lol forgot about those microscopic ticks
[11:57] <Kilos> i cant even find how to get there now
[11:58] <Kilos> if you get everything working as you like it then you can make a remastersys dvd of your running os
[11:58] <Gotango> Ubuntu should do something about that , it will confuse the hell out of new users
[11:58] <Kilos> and use that in any pc to install or just use from dvd
[11:59] <Kilos> in remastersys you choose the backup mode and the dvd is identical to your system
[12:00] <Gotango> You mean put the current system on dvd when i got the drivers installed 
[12:01] <Gotango> I mean the Ati drivers , no nvidia
[12:05] <Kilos> yes it makes it identical to your running pc
[12:05] <Kilos> if you boot from the live dvd you even have to put your password in
[12:06] <Kilos> great for reinstalls too
[12:06] <Kilos> then you dont need to go looking for drivers and all your apps
[12:06] <Gotango> Great, i will do that thanks Kilos :)
[12:07] <Kilos> yw
[12:07] <Gotango> BTW i did a little calculation
[12:07] <Kilos> yes?
[12:08] <Gotango> I took the proprietary graphics drivers size and added everything about AMD and ATI stuff in synaptics and i got 152456 kb
[12:08] <Gotango> 152MB
[12:11] <Gotango> The biggest one is fglrx 39MB , video driver for the Amd graphics accelerators
[12:12] <Gotango> All of them are not installed yet
[12:23] <Gotango> I'm sure when they are extracted they will be far bigger. 
[13:03]  * Gotango scared everyone away lol
[13:04] <Kilos> lol
[13:04] <Kilos> mazaand bduk knock off at 3pm
[13:04] <Kilos> mazal 
[13:06] <Gotango> i dont understand
[13:06] <Kilos> they work till 3
[13:07] <Kilos> and rarely here on weekends
[13:07] <Gotango> Oh, that makes sense
[13:13] <Gotango> So i guess in summer pc's work harder than in winter :/
[13:14] <Kilos> must be but desktops dont seem to have same probs as lappies
[13:14] <Kilos> and place to add 2 more fans
[13:14] <Kilos> 3 actually
[13:15] <Gotango> ya thats true. Desktops got it good, except for the power bill may be a bit higher
[13:15] <Kilos> yeah but dont need replacement betteries either
[13:16] <Kilos> im happ with dt pc
[13:18] <Kilos> trying to decide if fan better on side cover or back panel
[13:18] <Gotango> Maybe if i got my own place again and a steady income, i will get a desktop again. But build my own mod. 
[13:19] <Kilos> yeah would be lekker to build a custom pc without cash restrictions
[13:19] <Kilos> like Symmetria s one
[13:19] <Kilos> ask him what it has cost him
[13:19] <Kilos> i think 68g ram alone
[13:19] <Gotango> Maybe better on the side to get that air out easier
[13:20] <Gotango> huh ? R68000 ?
[13:20] <Kilos> i got big mesh section on back panel as well and that would suck over the cpu as well
[13:20] <Kilos> ran of 68 gig
[13:20] <Kilos> pc was more than that in total i think
[13:21] <Gotango> oh memory size. Thats alot of Ram
[13:21] <Kilos> yeah
[13:21] <Kilos> sure he said pc was like 80k
[13:21] <Gotango> What does he use it for
[13:22] <Kilos> he is a networking guy but also plays with photography
[13:22] <Kilos> 10 mor 13 TB drives
[13:22] <Gotango> R80geez wow!
[13:23] <Kilos> lol
[13:23] <Kilos> inetpro, wen jy darem
[13:23] <Gotango> awesome
[13:23] <inetpro> Kilos: stadig maar seker
[13:24] <Kilos> didnt you see the link to his setup?
[13:24] <Kilos> mooi boetie hoe moed
[13:24] <Gotango> Hey inetpro
[13:24] <Kilos> 5 screens
[13:24] <inetpro> hi Gotango
[13:24] <Gotango> Probably 4k screen setup
[13:25] <Kilos> Symmetria, ping
[13:27] <Kilos> one screen is big as my room
[13:28] <Kilos> flat tv thing
[13:29] <Gotango> Nice, he can probably control everything in his house too
[13:34] <Kilos> ?
[13:34] <Gotango> The most i will ever wana spend on a rig is 10k
[13:35] <Kilos> you can get a nice pc for 10k
[13:36] <Kilos> gaming pc
[13:36] <Gotango> Ya 8 cores cpu is good enough
[13:36] <Kilos> i7 an all
[13:36] <Kilos> 3k for the cpu
[13:37] <Kilos> inetpro, storm dit daar in die dorp weer
[13:37] <Kilos> lyk my weer kom van daai kant
[13:37] <inetpro> ek sien net donkerte
[13:38] <Kilos> ai!
[13:38] <Kilos> ek hhor donderweer maar nog ver
[13:38] <Kilos> hoor
[13:38] <Kilos> laaste een was nader
[13:40] <Kilos> oh Gotango does your lappie auto connect to the net
[13:42] <Kilos> 12.04 gave me grey hair with that prob
[13:42] <Gotango> Nope Kilos, i like to start it myself though
[13:42] <Kilos> ah
[13:42] <Gotango> My startup apps list is empty 
[13:43] <Kilos> should be a script there but its made for 8ta
[13:43] <Gotango> I dont want any kind of Os doing anything automaticly, without me knowing about it lol
[13:44] <Kilos> lol
[13:45] <Gotango> Just typing the iftop command alot is a bit annoying
[13:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:46] <Gotango> Should'nt there be a way to make the doller $ sign a hash # in the terminal
[13:46] <Kilos> why?
[13:46] <Kilos> look in settings keyboard and options or layout
[13:47] <Kilos> lots stuff in there like compose key
[13:47] <Gotango> I think i saw you set that if you dont wana type in your pw all the time with sudo
[13:47] <Kilos> for making ° signs etc
[13:47] <Kilos> °
[13:48] <Gotango> I think its a terminal thing though not a keyborad shortcut
[13:48] <Gotango> keyboard*
[13:50] <Kilos> no man you set it up in settings then the terminal does
[13:50] <Kilos> it
[13:50] <Gotango> oh ok
[13:50] <Kilos> môre
[13:52] <Gotango> btw why cant i drag the launcher icons to where i want them? 
[13:56] <Gotango> Get the list of launcher
[13:56] <Gotango> In the terminal type the following and press enter 
[13:56] <Gotango> gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites 
[13:56] <Gotango> Some thing like this will be returned. 
[13:56] <Gotango> ['application://google-chrome.desktop', 'application://gnome-terminal.desktop', 'application://nautilus.desktop', 'application://media1.desktop', 'unity://running-apps', 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices'] 
[13:56] <Gotango> Re-order the launchers
[13:56] <Gotango>  Copy this, paste in the text editor and re-organize things. Suppose I want to keep the nautilus at the top, I would do the following:
[13:56] <Gotango> ['application://nautilus.desktop', 'application://gnome-terminal.desktop', 'application://google-chrome.desktop', 'application://media1.desktop', 'unity://running-apps', 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices'] 
[13:56] <Gotango> Set the order
[13:56] <Gotango> In the terminal type: 
[13:56] <Gotango> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites ['application://nautilus.desktop', 'application://gnome-terminal.desktop', 'application://google-chrome.desktop', 'application://media1.desktop', 'unity://running-apps', 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices'] 
[13:56] <Gotango> Refresh Unity
[13:56] <Gotango>  Press Alt + F2 , type unity and press enter, this will refresh unity and the launcher.
[13:56] <Gotango> This should set the order and should survive through reboots but I don't have 16 launchers and haven't tested them. 
[13:56] <Gotango> If this doesn't work, use the following shell script and run it after you log in:
[13:56] <Gotango> #!/bin/bash gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites ['application://nautilus.desktop', 'application://gnome-terminal.desktop', 'application://google-chrome.desktop', 'application://media1.desktop', 'unity://running-apps', 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices'] 
[13:57] <Gotango> Save it in your home folder, say a.sh and make it executable by
[13:57] <Gotango> chmod +x a.sh 
[13:57] <Gotango> Then, when you login:
[13:57] <Gotango>  Press Alt + F2 , type a.sh and press enter.
[13:57] <Gotango> All this just to move some icons around in the launcher ?
[13:59] <Kilos> ?
[13:59] <Kilos> i put those i want in the launcher and remove the rest
[14:00] <Gotango> How Kilos ?
[14:00] <Gotango> I'm not doing the above
[14:00] <Kilos> right click remove from launcher
[14:00] <Kilos> type app in dash and drag to launcher
[14:01] <Gotango> Only Unlock from launcher
[14:01] <Kilos> ya thats it
[14:01] <Gotango> ok
[14:01] <Kilos> then if you want to use it again you open it from dash
[14:02] <Gotango> Why? I dont wana go there, i want it on the side bar
[14:02] <Kilos> i unlock firefox and all the libreoffice stuff
[14:03] <Kilos> that side bar is to quick click to opened apps
[14:03] <Kilos> there was a book somewhere
[14:04] <Kilos> http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/12321/how-can-i-start-learning-unity-fast-list-of-tutori.html
[14:04] <Gotango> Yes i wana quick click
[14:04] <Kilos> http://docs.unity3d.com/
[14:07] <Gotango> hmm , nothing of interest there
[14:09] <Gotango> Its fine i'll just remove and throw the app there i wana use
[14:26] <Gotango> and the bookmarking of folders, man dunno why it have to be such a long process
[14:28] <Gotango> Now i see why so many hate unity
[14:33]  * Gotango hou op! jou kla kous!
[14:34] <inetpro> Gotango: many small unity niggles have been fixed in later releases
[14:35] <Gotango> I guess so inetpro
[14:36] <Trixar_za> I always think of Unity Linux whenever anybody mentions the Unity GUI
[15:21] <charl> good afternoon
[15:21] <charl> just had some blood drawn for an allergy test
[15:21] <charl> was almost painless, couldn't believe it
[15:23] <Trixar_za> Yeah, they're getting pretty good at it
[15:23] <Trixar_za> I used to be terrified of needles as a kid
[15:25] <charl> i still can't see blood
[15:25] <charl> especially not if it's my own :)
[15:26] <charl> wb Kilos 
[15:26] <Kilos> ty, i went to sleep and looks like the modem did as well
[15:28] <charl> oh your sleepy huawei e220 modem?
[15:29] <Kilos> no the zte thing
[15:29] <charl> bah
[15:29] <charl> i thought it's the arab modem, in the warm weather they need to sleep to keep their cool
[15:30] <Kilos> na ian took the arab modem , that one never disconnected
[15:30] <Kilos> hehe 
[15:31] <Kilos> when i get more energy im still gonna learn to use minicom
[16:09] <somaunn> hello
[16:09] <Kilos> somaunn, have you looked at  WPS,
[16:10] <somaunn> Kilos: nope
[16:10] <Kilos> (such as WPS, which is a clone of MS Office 2012)
[16:10] <Kilos> i saw mention of it here
[16:10] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/297151/how-to-run-32-bit-programs-on-a-64-bit-system
[16:11] <Kilos> havent read more yet
[16:11] <somaunn> Kilos: oh yeah that one i've tried but still it's not working the way i expect it to be but that was months ago
[16:11] <somaunn> let me quickly jump there and see how it look like
[16:11] <Kilos> ok, ive never heard of it even
[16:21] <Kilos> wow while i slept my screen resolution changed
[17:25] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:26] <Kilos> Golynx, whats with the nick change
[17:26] <Kilos> tired of tangoing
[17:26] <Golynx> lol , i'm no dancer :p
[17:26] <Golynx> Rather be a wild cat
[17:26] <Kilos> haha
[17:28] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos...
[17:29] <Golynx> Almost installed Kate, thank goodness i changed my mind and remember to update the plugins in gedit
[17:29] <Kilos> Golynx, look at nano man
[17:29] <Kilos> kate is for kde
[17:30] <Golynx> I was looking for the same experience editor like notepad++ on windows
[17:30] <Kilos> eish
[17:30] <Golynx> Saved sessions is a real plus
[17:30] <Kilos> look for better experiences amn
[17:30] <Golynx> Nano?
[17:31] <Kilos> you type in sudo nano and the path to the file
[17:31] <Kilos> serious editor
[17:31] <Golynx> Nano has no Gui
[17:31] <Kilos> yes man
[17:31] <Golynx> How do i gui nano
[17:31] <Kilos> same as gedit
[17:32] <Kilos> instead of gedit just put nano in the command
[17:32] <Kilos> just replace gedit with nano
[17:33] <Golynx> Thats the same command line interface Kilos
[17:33] <Kilos> yes
[17:33] <Kilos> but its nano
[17:34] <Kilos> and to save trl+o
[17:34] <Kilos> ctrl+o
[17:34] <Kilos> ctrl+x to quit
[17:34] <Golynx> I want code coloring , saved sessions , autocomplete , many things i will never be able to do in command line
[17:34] <Kilos> it shows lotsa colours in programs
[17:34] <Golynx> gedit got those things now , i find them in the updated plugins
[17:35] <Kilos> read man nano and see what all it can do
[17:35] <Kilos> i use it for basic stuff
[17:35] <Kilos> but gedit is powerful so carry on
[17:36] <Golynx> Thanks man, but i wana click and work fast, not type everytime i need to do something
[17:37] <Golynx> but for basic text editing nano seems great!
[17:40] <nlsthzn> as a sad note the latest version of kate has been given some major work :)
[17:41] <Golynx> hey nlsthzn
[17:42]  * nlsthzn not sure why he wrote "sad" note... should be side :p
[17:42] <nlsthzn> alo Golynx
[17:42] <Golynx> kate dont wana install by me, missing packages that dont wana update
[17:42] <Golynx> but kde is too intense anyway
[17:42] <nlsthzn> odd... but I can imagine it needs a lot of KDE dependencies ...
[17:43]  * nlsthzn is glad he got Kubuntu 13.10 sorted out again :)
[17:43] <Kilos> i like it too
[17:43] <Kilos> much improved
[17:43] <Golynx> Aah thats good nlsthzn
[17:44] <nlsthzn> ah yes uncle Kilos also rocking some KDE now
[17:46] <Kilos> Golynx, telkom rocks
[17:47] <Kilos> if you put R30 airtime they give you 30 frree to use in a week or so
[17:47] <Kilos> but you cant buy data with the free airtime
[17:48] <Golynx> Thats good Kilos , with cellc is you buy R30 airtime you get 30MB free :)
[17:48] <Kilos> lol
[17:49] <Kilos> ok stay  with cellc
[17:50] <Golynx> I will stay with cellc for a while , when i got a chance to get that R149 deal from telkom mobile i will take that
[17:51] <Kilos> what R149 deal?
[17:51] <Golynx> That 2+1 deal you talked about
[17:51] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:51] <Kilos> i thought you meant with the starter pack
[17:52] <Golynx> nah i dont wana waste R49 if here is no coverage 
[17:52] <charl> good evening fellows
[17:52] <Golynx> Hey charl
[17:52] <Kilos> hi charly
[17:52] <charl> nlsthzn: i am also on kubuntu 13.10 now inside a VM at work
[17:53] <Kilos> evening superfly 
[17:53] <charl> nlsthzn: some applications don't run that well inside a tiling window manager and i need to use some heavy developer tools at work
[17:53] <charl> hi Kilos 
[17:53] <charl> hi Golynx 
[17:53] <nlsthzn> I love the fact that with the back port you are basically always running bleeding edge KDE
[17:53] <charl> oh i just got PoE sorted, can try my new telephone tomorrow...
[17:53] <Golynx> Will try download the drivers tomorrow morning, thats usually when the network here is at its best
[17:54] <nlsthzn> and KDE has even beaten Arch to the punch sometimes to be the first to have a new release of KDE available
[17:54] <charl> nlsthzn: nah i just run the stable version, i just need something that works
[17:54] <charl> kubuntu you mean?
[17:54] <charl> very nice
[17:54] <nlsthzn> there is nothing more stable in an older release of KDE over a new one... new one has the bug fixes for the old one Lo
[17:54] <nlsthzn> sorry I mean kubuntu
[17:55] <charl> actually you have a good point there
[17:55] <nlsthzn> now running KDE 4.12
[17:55] <charl> backport you say? maybe i should try it
[17:55] <Kilos> took some setting up to make it like 12.04 kde but very lekker then and super fast install
[17:55] <charl> haven't used the backports in years
[17:55] <nlsthzn> charl:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.12
[17:55] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:56] <Golynx> Kilos , there is alot of files of yours in /Storage
[17:56] <Golynx> Hi superfly
[17:56] <charl> brb need to go to the shops
[17:56] <Kilos> storage there by you?
[17:56] <Golynx> Yes
[17:56] <Golynx> Windows stuff too
[17:56] <superfly> hi Golynx
[17:57] <Kilos> my storage here has lots of isos and backups etc
[17:57] <Kilos> windows tools
[17:57] <Kilos> or winstuff
[17:57] <Golynx> Ya, should i delete it
[17:57] <Kilos> haha i wonder how it got there
[17:57] <Kilos> look at everything man
[17:57] <Kilos> dont just delete
[17:58] <Kilos> maybe you can fix someone elses pc and show then how clever linux users are
[17:58] <Golynx> I only know Mirc in Everything folder
[17:58] <Golynx> lol
[17:58] <Kilos> ok then delete
[17:58] <Golynx> ok
[17:59] <Kilos> and use for saving your stuff
[17:59] <Golynx> I wont be running Wine , so windows apps i wont use
[17:59] <Golynx> Will do
[17:59] <Kilos> run backups to there and save /var/cache/apt/archives/ to there
[18:00] <Kilos> wine gives me probs everyime
[18:00] <Golynx> Nice , will try that
[18:00] <Kilos> crashes my gui then i need to install gdm to get going again
[18:01] <Kilos> when you want to save them there is a command for it
[18:01] <Kilos> so all your downloaded packages are saved
[18:02] <Kilos> isnt there a precise folder in there?
[18:02] <Golynx> I will do the remastersys thing aswell when i have downloaded all my needed apps
[18:02] <Golynx> nope
[18:16] <nlsthzn> night all
[18:16] <Kilos> sleep tight nlsthzn 
[18:17] <Golynx> take care nlsthzn
[18:54] <Golynx> Kilos https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI says  NOTE: If you are switching from another OEM's hardware, NVIDIA for instance, you must uninstall the driver for that hardware before installing the AMD driver.
[18:54] <Golynx> I'm afraid something may break if i uninstall nvidia
[19:03] <Golynx> Ok i will uninstall before downloading
[19:04] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:04] <Kilos> it shouldnt
[19:05] <Kilos> there should be a basic ati apprunning there too
[19:05] <Kilos> radeon something or other
[19:06] <Golynx> Those Xorg processes that control the display now is really very small less than 100kb
[19:07] <Golynx> Dunno what will happen , but will uninstall nvidia before activating the proprietary drivers
[19:08] <Golynx> oh ya radeon too
[19:09] <Golynx> Hope fglrx does what it says
[19:11] <Kilos> if you are using the additional drivers tool it will do everything needed
[19:12] <Kilos> just use synaptic to remove nvidia-173 and nvidia-settings and or maybe nvidia-173-updates
[19:12] <Kilos> then hit additional drivers
[19:13] <Kilos> dont reboot between
[19:13] <Kilos> inetpro, ?
[19:13] <inetpro> sup?
[19:13] <Golynx> What about the terminal uninstal ?
[19:14] <Kilos> terminal is fine as long as you get the info right
[19:14] <Golynx> is it the same as synaptic
[19:14] <Kilos> all good ty inetpro and there
[19:14] <Kilos> yes aptitude remove
[19:14] <inetpro> np Kilos
[19:14] <Golynx> ok thanks Kilos
[19:15] <inetpro> just getting ready for bed
[19:15] <Kilos> yeah me too. woke you up to say goodnight
[19:15]  * inetpro needs to try again and learn to sleep early
[19:15] <Kilos> hehe
[19:15] <Kilos> go run 5 ks every night then you will sleep lekker
[19:16] <inetpro> sjoe, that sounds too much man
[19:16] <Kilos> sleep comes easy to tired body but not tired mind only
[19:16] <Kilos> well start with 1/2k
[19:16] <Kilos> or run around the block then kick it under the bed
[19:17]  * inetpro started doing early morning walks of just less than 3km
[19:17] <Kilos> thats good for ballies
[19:17] <inetpro> tough to wake up early though
[19:17] <Kilos> lol
[19:17] <Kilos> better in eveing though
[19:18] <Kilos> even a walk after supper
[19:18] <Kilos> evening
[19:18] <inetpro> morning walks are very refreshing
[19:18] <Kilos> so is a cold shower
[19:19] <inetpro> ai!
[19:19] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:19] <inetpro> good night Kilos