[00:02] <maxxsire> Thanks to all I hope it works
[00:05] <OnkelTem1> Hi all
[00:06] <OnkelTem1> I have problem with GRUB. After installing Ubuntu 12.04 I can't boot: I get into grub rescue> and see the message: error: file `/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found.
[00:07] <OnkelTem1> I spent hour trying to update and reinstall grub, rechecked everything, I'm out of ideas
[00:08] <OnkelTem1> I boot from LiveCD, mount new system's partitions, chroot there, update-grub (OK), grub-install /dev/sda (OK!) --recheck (OK!)
[00:08] <OnkelTem1> but the boot fails
[00:21] <Beldar> OnkelTem1, Dualboot, and if so with what exactly?
[00:32] <b4rbz> can anyone recommend a good python ide?
[00:33] <Juhaa> help installing Stockfish 4 on Ubuntu
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> b4rbz: what exactly are you looking for in the ide?
[00:38] <Wassname> Can someone help me with basic XChat function? I want to add server irc.taphouse.org.
[00:39] <Temper> Wassname, /connect irc.taphouse.org?
[00:40] <Wassname> Thank you. I was trying to figure out how to implement without commands. Via menu.
[00:41] <Wassname> Still can't figure it out.
[00:42] <PatrickDickey> b4rbz: Komodo IDE is alright, but I think you have to pay for it.
[00:42] <basichash> Is there a program that allows me to set up an array of terminals?
[00:42] <basichash> in some grid-like format
[00:43] <somsip> basichash: screen, tmux
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: or use a tiling window manager like dwm
[00:43] <ianorlin> I have heard terminator also lets you do that
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> terminator is awful tho
[00:44] <basichash> cheers
[00:50] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> Wassname: Either in the Server menu, or in the settings under networks? I don't have XChat, so I'm going by the screenshots on their site.
[00:50] <Schrodinger`Cat> how to restart an ubuntu session when graphic interface not work ? "service lightdm restart" is good ?
[00:51] <Temper> if i want to mount an encrypted filesystem on top of an uncrypted drive, what directories should i do?
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> Schrodinger`Cat: I think you can use something like unity --restart (try unity --help first to find out).
[00:52] <Schrodinger`Cat> PatrickDickey, it will work on an other tty than these is unresponsive ?
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> Yes. You might want to google it first though. I know there's a command that restarts unity, but I'm not exactly sure if it's unity or ubuntu-desktop.
[00:54]  * PatrickDickey and I'm on lubuntu, so I don't *have* unity
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> Schrodinger`Cat: It looks like all you have to type is unity, and it will restart.
[00:55] <Schrodinger`Cat> "DISPLAY=:0 unity --replace" work fine on a tty :)
[00:59] <ejcweb> I've got a terminal open on my desktop that I have been running some commands on. I'm now remote from that desktop, and have SSH'd in. How can I access the recent commands I ran in that terminal? They don't appear in bash history since the terminal hasn't yet been closed.
[00:59] <ejcweb> Is this even possible?
[01:01] <kills> need t.leach inventation someone ?
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> ejcweb: this is why you should use screen or tmux. with either you can leave a command running. then ssh in, and capture the screen session that the command is running in and bring it your ssh session
[01:01] <Logan_> kills: Huh?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> !piracy | kills
[01:02] <kills> oks sry
[01:02] <ejcweb> hitsujimTMO: Yes, understood. In this specific case I'd still like to work out if there's a way of doing this.
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> ejcweb: not to my knowledge i'm afraid
[01:11] <MartynKeigher> hey all.. have an odd Q but hope i can get some help with it. Basically.. im looking at setting something up on a ubuntu 12.04.2 server and i need to ensure that a lot of people also get the same config. ie: i dont want to rely on people manually following commands and tweaking it.. i just want to provide a DISTRO of the setup i create. How owuld i go about doing that? Thank you
[01:16] <for> i need a good hacker
[01:16] <rww> in what sense of the word "hacker"
[01:17] <for> a people for crak a mail
[01:18] <tmus> Problem with "Mobile Broadband" on 13.10 - Network Manager says "Serial Command Timed Out" on init? How to fix? :-)
[01:18] <apb1963> MartynKeigher: http://askubuntu.com/questions/293859/how-to-make-my-own-distro
[01:18] <Guest20873> a people to crak mail i need all information in mail of one people, the men can make it, go make money easy
[01:19] <apb1963> for:  so you need a good cracker then, not a hacker.
[01:20] <elky> Guest20873: what?
[01:20] <Guest20873> i need a good cracker
[01:20] <apb1963> Guest20873: I would suggest either Ritz or Saltines..... both are good.
[01:21] <Beldar> Guest20873, & for  same IP
[01:21] <elky> Guest20873: this is not the place you are looking for.
[01:21] <apb1963> Ritz are more expensive, but have a richer taste
[01:21] <Ada_> Hi, is this the right place to get help with installing Ubuntu? My computer is not booting from USB eventhough I have set the order in the bios
[01:21] <elky> apb1963: enough feeding.
[01:22] <apb1963> elky: :)
[01:22] <Beldar> Ada_, There is a per-session boot menu the bios splash tell you the key to hit generally.
[01:23] <basichash> What's the best terminal IRC client?
[01:23] <Ada_> Thanks Beldar, i'll go and try that now
[01:24] <Handlebar> !best | basichash
[01:24] <elky> basichash: there is no best, but irssi is popular.
[01:24] <rww> weechat is also popular
[01:24] <rww> all other terminal IRC clients are not the best
[01:24] <basichash> thanks
[01:26] <Guest20873> ?
[01:27] <elky> Guest20873: you are not going to get hacking/cracking help here.
[01:31] <DougsTech> Guest20873, haha
[01:42] <banks> I need help installing ubuntu 13.10
[01:42] <kills> whats worng banks
[01:42] <banks> kills, i dont know how to edit these partitions
[01:43] <Romolos> Hello out there. I'm looking for some help installing AMD GPU's. Have been trying for 2 days.
[01:44] <banks> kills, can you help me with this?
[01:44] <kills> i will try banks  pm
[01:56] <jeffrey_f> !ubuntu
[01:57] <Romolos> Anyone available to help with a botched driver installation for AMD GPU's in Ubuntu 12.04.3LTS?
[02:02] <daftykins> Romolos: can you describe the situation to the channel in more detail?
[02:04] <AmitDeshwra> So, I'm having a problem with a dual video card, dual monitor problem.  I'm running ubuntu 13.10 and currently have a 4k monitor attached to the intel integrated graphics card (i7-4770) and a 2560x1600 monitor attached to an nvidia gerforce 210.  I just plugged everything in and seemed to work okay, however whenever I try to rotate the 2560 monitor to portrait mode, lightdm crashes.  Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[02:05] <Romolos> Yes, thanks. I have AMD 290x GPU's and went through the steps of installing catalyst drivers, following a recommended online tutorial. However, my system doesn't seem to be recognizing the GPU's properly if at all
[02:06] <b0x> im trying cairo-dock atm.. seems ok however the workspace switcher shows 12 workspaces, when i only have 4
[02:06] <Romolos> for example, if I enter fglrxinfo in terminal the response is Error:unable to open display (null)
[02:09] <daftykins> Romolos: my first thought is that perhaps the installation didn't go through, did you use a most recent beta? i don't know if you need to get the very latest given such new card(s)
[02:10] <banks> I need help upgrading to 13.10, i need to know how to partition the drives
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> AmitDeshwra: can you pastebin the logs?
[02:10] <daftykins> Romolos: /var/log/Xorg.0.log may provide a clue as to what driver got used (or attempted to be used)
[02:11] <Romolos> Yes, I used the most recent beta.
[02:11] <Romolos> I'll try that command. Thanks daftykins.
[02:11] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO: What logs are you looking for?
[02:11] <banks> can anyone help me with editing my partitions?
[02:12] <Ben64> banks: you should explain in much more detail what the issue is and what you want to do
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> AmitDeshwra: well if its lightdm thats crashing then the lightdm logs would be best :) /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log   you need sudo to access them
[02:12] <banks> Ben64, I want to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10, but the installer is telling me i need to make a partition for efi boot and it has to be 35mb, i do not know how to do that and im scared to touch it
[02:14] <banks> Ben64, might you be able to help me with this?
[02:15] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753884/
[02:16] <Ben64> banks: check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:17] <Romolos> daftykins: when I entered that I got "Error: permission denied"
[02:17] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO: Oops that's the wrong one, let me just paste the one where it crashed
[02:18] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753891/
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> AmitDeshwra: does lightdm reload when it crashes or does it stop dead btw?
[02:18] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO: It sends me back to the login screen
[02:20] <hitsujiTMO> AmitDeshwra: I looks to be the xserver thats crashing. Pastebin the relevant /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:21] <xub1204> how do I delete nepomuk file indexing with a terminal command??
[02:23] <banks> Need help upgrading from 12.04 to 13.10, i dont know how to edit partitions
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> banks: how exactly are you upgrading? and why are you upgradinmg?
[02:24] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6753901/
[02:24] <banks> hitsujiTMO, im upgrading via live usb, and im upgrading because i foudn out that ubuntu 13.10 has the solution to my internet problem i have been having for months, were the wifi keeps disconnecting frequentley
[02:27] <Romolos> daftykins: would it be reasonable to just back track and try to redo the installations? Is there a way do that? Also, I just installed synaptic package mgr, in hope that it may be a useful tool for diagnosing the situation and possibly repairing it. But I have no experience working with it. Might it help?
[02:27] <Ben64> banks: you may just want to wait on that upgrade. 14.04 is coming out soon and you can upgrade directly to it
[02:28] <banks> Ben64, when the upgrade comes out ill update again, all i need to know is jsut how to create a 35mb partition
[02:29] <Ben64> banks: i don't see why you'd need one if you don't have one already and your ubuntu is booting
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> AmitDeshwra: looks like the xserver itself is segfaulting. not much can be done about that afaik. Report a bug on xserver-xorg and attach the log file. I'd also recommend testing the live distro of 14.04 to see if its also happening there. Only thing you could try on this is to see if the same behaviour occurs with the proprietary nvidia driver.
[02:30] <tmus> My Lenovo N5321 gw (Ericsson) USB Mobile Broadband modem does not seem to work with Ubuntu... When it's almost connected, it appears to reset... Any ideas?
[02:30] <banks> Ben64, its my internet problem that i keep having, its not happening on any of my windows machine, only on this one, that is the only reason why i want to upgrade, because if that was working fine then i would have no problem waiting
[02:31] <Ben64> banks: ok? i don't see how that relates to a 35MB partition you supposedly need
[02:31] <hitsujiTMO> Banks the 3.11 kernel is now available in 12.04 repo. maybe try upgrading to this first
[02:32] <Ben64> thats a good idea hitsujiTMO
[02:33] <banks> Ben64, it doesnt relate to it, at all actually, but 35mb is going to get 13.10 running and  that will  fix my internet
[02:34] <banks> hitsujiTMO, i tried just about everything, includign updating my drivers
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> banks: the kernel in 13.10 is 3.11 ... this is now in the 12.04 repo. Most likely the fix is in this kernel
[02:36] <banks> hitsujiTMO, actually youre right
[02:36] <banks> hitsujiTMO, ill be back
[02:45] <AmitDeshwra> hitsujiTMO, thanks for your help.  I've already tried using the nvidia drivers but they don't play nicely with the intel drivers
[02:45] <santana> hi everybody i'm santana and i"m indonesian
[02:47] <jeffrey_f> santana: ask your question....
[02:51] <Tubby> !ops
[02:51] <Tubby> !ops | sup ljl
[02:56] <goog> What's the best way to copy ssh key pair from a server to another?
[02:57] <LeAgente> Is scp good?
[02:58] <goog> good but anything better?
[03:01] <LeAgente> IDK
[03:06] <Mandalord> s
[03:07] <Lucan> Hi everyone
[03:07] <Lucan> I have some concerns for obtaining the particular drivers for Edubuntu.
[03:08] <Lucan> I assumes it is same as Ubuntu.
[03:08] <Lucan> Does anyone had experiences with ATI HD4670 AGP ?
[03:11] <Mandalord> s
[03:18] <Mandalord> @Lucan what's the problem?
[03:19] <Lucan> hello Mandalord
[03:19] <Lucan> Firstly
[03:19] <Lucan> I booted the ISO i made for Edubuntu 12.04.2
[03:20] <Lucan> i plugged my 16 gb usb
[03:20] <Lucan> I opened the disk management when I was in live mode of edubuntu
[03:20] <Mandalord> ok
[03:21] <Lucan> I wiped and zeroed the usb stick
[03:21] <Lucan> then i used the start up disk creator
[03:21] <Lucan> Made it bootable from cd itself, 2gb persistence data.
[03:22] <Lucan> it seem good so far.
[03:22] <Lucan> so i shut down after all of this work... unplug the usb and plug it in different computer, which i did meant to boot the edubuntu off usb... cd wont read.
[03:22] <Lucan> it booted all way to the white screen of loading.
[03:23] <Lucan> and then a long blank screen
[03:23] <Lucan> that's one whole scenario I need to solve.
[03:23] <Lucan> the other one is to collect the necessary drivers
[03:23] <Lucan> So far I got idea that to use X driver for HD4670.
[03:24] <Lucan> Do you have any experiences on ati drivers for edubuntu, or similar debian?
[03:26] <Mandalord> have you try boot the usb on the same machine you made it bootable?
[03:26] <Viking667> 'llo all. I'm trying to get Skype to talk to pulseaudio, but it doesn't want to. What do I need to do? As far as I know, pulseaudio works here, devices show up in pavucontrol, and "pulseaudio --check" returns 0.
[03:27] <Lucan> I could try, but if it fails how can I check for MD5?
[03:27] <nevyn> Viking667: what version of skype do you have?
[03:28] <Lucan> Does this makes any difference to the solution to boot edubuntu on usb... if this was made from x64 CPU?
[03:28] <Viking667> the latest from skype.com for 12.04, I think.
[03:28] <Viking667> It happily talks to alsa but as soon as anything else uses the pulseaudio device, it locks up.
[03:28] <Mandalord> well i dont think you need to check md5. just make sure the usb stick not broken
[03:30] <Lucan> USB is working nicely
[03:30] <Viking667> I've also got the relevant 32-bit sound libs installed that Skype wants... (and yes, it's a 64-bit saucy system)
[03:30] <Mandalord> if the usb is fine, then you should try nomodeset when boot in the new machine
[03:30] <Lucan> I am just not sure why it get interrupted with a blank screen after the loading screen.
[03:30] <Lucan> explain the step on that, please
[03:31] <Mandalord> @Lucan: there are some frequent situations, most of them relate to graphic driver
[03:32] <Lucan> Then, with this usb.
[03:32] <Lucan> or if using the other methods.
[03:32] <Lucan> how can I load the driver so I can be able to boot it
[03:32] <Lucan> is there such use of generic driver?
[03:32] <nevyn> Viking667: do you have libpulse's 32bit variant
[03:33] <Mandalord> it has a real nice guide with images here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132, lets have a look and try it
[03:33] <Lucan> looking
[03:34] <Mandalord> after booting, you can install driver when running edubuntu
[03:34] <Viking667> nevyn: I'll check. I think I do.
[03:34] <Lucan> Oh other options
[03:34] <Lucan> okay ill give this a shot
[03:34] <Lucan> in a second... moving the irc to the phone so i can try it :)
[03:36] <Guest58216> How to create my own mail server in ubuntu
[03:37] <Viking667> hm. How do I install libpulse0 for i386?
[03:37] <Viking667> ah, found it
[03:39] <Viking667> ... hm. Nope.
[03:40] <Viking667> I thought    apt-get -a=i386 install libpulse0 would have worked. but it merely told me the newest version was already installed.
[03:40] <Viking667> I can't find libpulse0:i386 in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ though
[03:40] <ceed^> Why is hibernation disabled on Ubuntu 13.10?
[03:40] <Viking667> Do you have a multiple-core CPU?
[03:41] <Viking667> I've never had any luck with hibernation when I've got more than one CPU core.
[03:43] <Mandalord> @ceed: do you have swap?
[03:43] <nevyn> Viking667: dpkg -a=i386 -l|grep pulse
[03:45] <Viking667> ugh -a option does not take a value.
[03:48] <system3rror> Not a Ubuntu user but I thought it was multiarch GNU/Linux ?
[03:50] <stevenburnley> hello?
[03:51] <grahamsavage> how can i get the names of the video outputs?
[03:51] <grahamsavage> i.e. screens?
[03:51] <maxxsire> On my main account I find that after a being logged on to the internet for about half an hour my computer becomes real sluggish (scrolling takes forever, interacting with pages, pages take forever to load, etc.) then after about 10 minutes or so the whole browser closes down. In Firefox, Chrome, and Knoqueror all the same. I do realize for some reason that my guest account only has 42 processes going and my main account has 192 proc
[03:51] <grahamsavage> maxxsire: does everything run well after you switch off your internet?
[03:52] <grahamsavage> i have the exact same issue, windows become sluggish stuff doesn't render
[03:52] <system3rror> int main () { printf("Hello stevenburnley\n"); return 0}
[03:52] <maxxsire> Another wierd thing is that both are running at about the same percentage of CPU and RAM
[03:52] <grahamsavage> yes! same issue
[03:52] <grahamsavage> i think ubuntu has some really big problems when it comes to coping with packet loss and dodgy network connections
[03:53] <grahamsavage> that affects the entire operating system.. i've noticed the second i disable the network interface
[03:53] <grahamsavage> everything starts working again
[03:54] <maxxsire> I've used Ubuntu for over a year and a half with no problems up until a month ago
[03:54] <maxxsire> I've went to other networks and the same thing happens
[03:55] <Mandalord> @maxxsire: does it happen with other accounts?
[03:55] <system3rror> grahamsavage I find most issues are from the ipv6 protocol.
[03:55] <grahamsavage> syst3mw0rm: I have ipv6 disabled on two machines
[03:55] <system3rror> sed '/::/s/^/#/' /etc/hosts >/etc/dipv6-tmp;cp -a /etc/hosts /etc/hosts-backup && mv /etc/dipv6-tmp /etc/hosts
[03:55] <Viking667> grahamsavage: to "see" what screens Ubuntu thinks you see, use xrandr from a command prompt, or use the Displays applet in Settings.
[03:56] <system3rror> that is the way I get rid of them on Debian.. also echo net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 > /etc/sysctl.d/disableipv6.conf
[03:56] <Viking667> I'll come back later.
[03:56] <grahamsavage> they are both experiencing the same issue.. i do get about 9 - 16% packet loss continously
[03:56] <grahamsavage> but there's obviously some probelm somewhere in the ubuntu ecosystem that can't cope with this and makes the entire display lockup
[03:56] <system3rror> Are you sure you really disabled ipv6?
[03:57] <grahamsavage> syst3mw0rm: how can i check?
[03:57] <system3rror> grahamsavage netstat -tunlp |grep p6 |wc -l
[03:57] <system3rror> If the result is anything other than 0, then one or more IPv6-aware processes is running
[03:57] <grahamsavage> a single 5 came up
[03:58] <grahamsavage> how do you completly disable ipv6 then?
[03:58] <maxxsire> Why would there be 150 more processes going on my main account compared to my guest account when I have the same applications going and tabs open. Do I have malware up the butt or what?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> grahamsavage: It sounds to me like your network interface may be DMAing into memory that it shouldn't be.
[03:58] <grahamsavage> Viking667: oh thanks :D
[03:59] <grahamsavage> DMAing?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> grahamsavage: Writing directly into RAM, bypassing the CPU.
[04:00] <Jordan_U> grahamsavage: Direct Memory Access
[04:02] <system3rror> grahamsavage ill put a pastie up for you. One sec....
[04:02] <Jordan_U> grahamsavage: Packet loss should not cause instability of non-network related things so my guess is that one is not causing the other but rather they both have a common cause. The card writing to and reading from memory that the OS is using for other things could cause both problems.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> system3rror: grahamsavage: I think ipv6 is at best a red herring.
[04:03] <Guest58216> How to create mail server in ubuntu
[04:04] <Toggi3> Suddenly on a new install when I try to restart networking service: stop: unknown instance; networking stop/waiting
[04:04] <Toggi3> ... what?
[04:04] <Jordan_U> system3rror: system3rror: Even if disabling ipv6 stopped the packet loss (how?) there would still be the latent general stability problems that could come back next time there is packet loss.
[04:04] <liteIRC> Mandalord
[04:04] <liteIRC> I am Lucan
[04:05] <liteIRC> I am using irc on android
[04:05] <Toggi3> /etc/init.d/networking restart seems to work
[04:05] <liteIRC> I have booting the USB with options no modest, noapic and acpi=off
[04:05] <Toggi3> wtf..
[04:06] <maxxsire> Why would this have occurred about a month ago? Should I get a maleware program? What would cause this across browers?
[04:06] <Mandalord> yes Lucan
[04:06] <Mandalord> does it work?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> Toggi3: /etc/init.d/networking stop; service networking start; service networking stop
[04:06] <josePHPagoda> so occasionally I lose the ability to use my mouse on any running applications.  All the other mouse actions work (I can launch new apps, logout, etc) but I can't actually click or interact with running apps.  Anyone else experience that?
[04:06] <josePHPagoda> this is on 13.10
[04:07] <liteIRC> Turns out I am booting 13.10.... Just finished USB check disc
[04:07] <Jordan_U> Toggi3: My guess is that services not started by upstart can't properly be stopped by upstart.
[04:07] <liteIRC> All good so I am gonna try to boot it with same options.
[04:07] <Toggi3> deconfiguting network interfaces: OK; then I sudo service networking start as your suggestion
[04:08] <Toggi3> and I get "networking stop/waiting"
[04:08] <Toggi3> ... this is a fresh netinstall..
[04:09] <maxxsire> Why would there be 150 more processes going on my main account compared to my guest account when I have the same applications going and tabs open. Do I have malware up the butt or what?
[04:09] <josePHPagoda> max, depends on what those processes are
[04:09] <Jordan_U> maxxsire: How are you measuring the number of processes?
[04:10] <grahamsavage> yeah i always have tons of processes opening.. it's pretty normal
[04:10] <Toggi3> I've reinstalled once already, this doens't occur in an identical configuration (older install) under virtualbox, fwiw
[04:11] <maxxsire> task manager
[04:11] <FrankDux> hi. anyone familiar with ad hoc networking?
[04:12] <Jordan_U> system3rror: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[04:16] <jintao> hi all, I am using a live usb based ubuntu OS. I am having to configure the network card eth0 , after every boot up manually. Is there any way I can configure the network configuration persistent across boot sessions ?
[04:17] <wachpwnski> Anyone here know how I can set my iptables up to only allow access to my server from specific devices?
[04:18] <liteIRC> Mandalord
[04:18] <liteIRC> I got in
[04:18] <liteIRC> Now I'll just wipe the hard drive and install edubuntu :)
[04:19] <Mandalord> so you can get inside edubuntu?
[04:19] <liteIRC> Yes
[04:19] <liteIRC> I can start from there
[04:19] <Mandalord> now you can leave it like that or try install driver
[04:19] <liteIRC> Now I just need to deal with ati and via driver
[04:19] <liteIRC> Nah I gotta install it to hard drive :)
[04:19] <Viking667> aaargh.
[04:20] <liteIRC> This USB is live DVD of edubuntu
[04:20] <Mandalord> well, traditionally, vga driver is problematic, and ati is even more
[04:20] <liteIRC> Yeah? Try. I have gone through with Radeon x1300.
[04:21] <liteIRC> With opensuse.
[04:21] <liteIRC> This edubuntu is just new to me.
[04:21] <Mandalord> ok then have a try
[04:21] <Mandalord> edubuntu is the same as ubuntu
[04:21] <liteIRC> Edubuntu is debian
[04:21] <liteIRC> Opensuse is not
[04:21] <liteIRC> So different driver
[04:21] <liteIRC> I think
[04:22] <rww> same drivers, different packaging
[04:22] <jintao> hi all, I needed some help with configuring the network interface for a usb based installation. can someone help me ?
[04:22] <liteIRC> Then how do I deal with it?
[04:22] <Mandalord> install driver is easy, but some face side-effect
[04:24] <Guest58216> jintao, what kind of network you are trying to configure
[04:24] <Guest58216> jintao, network provider
[04:24] <liteIRC> How is that, Mandalord
[04:24] <jintao> wired network and with a ip, subnet, gateway given by the isp
[04:26] <jintao> actually, I am able to configure the network using network manager. But I have to do with every boot up. I wish to make the settings persistent. Is there a way to do that when you are booting up from usb ?
[04:26] <Mandalord> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:27] <jintao> Guest58216, actually, I am able to configure the network using network manager. But I have to do with every boot up. I wish to make the settings persistent. Is there a way to do that when you are booting up from usb ?
[04:27] <liteIRC> Mandalord is there such thing to benchmark hard drive for better selection on cluster size
[04:28] <Barrin6> jintao you are using live usb?
[04:28] <jintao> barrin6, yes.
[04:28] <liteIRC> Jintao
[04:28] <liteIRC> How do u make it
[04:29] <liteIRC> From live CD itself or unetbootin?
[04:29] <jintao> I used unetbootin
[04:29] <liteIRC> Edubuntu says don't do
[04:29] <liteIRC> Unetbootin. Just boot directly from CD
[04:30] <jintao> liteIRC, you mean we can't do that as per them
[04:30] <FrankDux> can someone help me with connecting to an ad hoc network?
[04:30] <sevenseacat> quick question, does anyone know what i need to do to make the automatic package update check work for minimal virtual machine installs like it does for full server installs?
[04:31] <shreezbot> Do any of you guys have experience connecting to crashplan on a headless Ubuntu server from a Windows machine?
[04:31] <Mandalord> @liteIRC not sure, it based on dealing with a few big files or many small files
[04:35] <liteIRC> Right now wiping hard drive with ext4+luks using zero fill method.
[04:35] <liteIRC> Partition*
[04:37] <liteIRC> In meant time
[04:37] <liteIRC> I want to understand the logic here
[04:37] <liteIRC> Is it possible to keep edubuntu running in ram whilst rest hard drives are suspended?
[04:45] <Mandalord> @liteIRC: Technically, yes. Why not? We have hard disk because we cannot afford several hundred GB RAM. If you have enough RAM then it's fine to do as you wish
[04:46] <Corvette> Hey guys I am wondering why this is. I made a launcher (pointing to an executable) and moved it into /usr/share/applications, then gave it an icon. It shows up in the unity menu, but it shows the default 'spring' icon for launchers, not the icon I assigned. How can I fix this?
[04:47] <Viking667> It seems I can't have 32-bit and 64-bit pulseaudio installed side-by-side.
[04:47] <Viking667> so. How do I get apt to correct this situation?
[04:49] <somsip> Corvette: you need an line defining an icon - maybe this will help http://is.gd/zubMSw
[04:49] <liteIRC> Mandalord just skip the sarcasm. I just want the point to the guide... Google don't help me and it  seem u... "Know-it-all".
[04:50] <liteIRC> No hard feeling
[05:02] <Mandalord> @liteIRC: unfortunately, I dont know. There is many guide out there such as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594694
[05:03] <Mandalord> just remember, everything work on ubuntu still work on edubuntu, vice versa
[05:03] <liteIRC> http://reboot.pro/topic/14547-linux-load-your-root-partition-to-ram-and-boot-it/
[05:03] <liteIRC> I understand on that versions
[05:03] <liteIRC> This is what I am doing here in correct place :)
[05:04] <Mandalord> basically they are the same for anyway
[05:08] <liteIRC> Thanks for the share
[05:13] <Corvette> somsip that did it, thanks
[05:15] <JazzBot> hey, so I has bumblebee and in short I dont have the xconfig found in /etc/X11 because I derped. Can I pull that file some how somewhere or..?
[05:17] <JazzBot> actually i found the file online, however am I supose to link it somewhere?
[05:23] <JazzBot> hello?
[05:24] <JazzBot> or should it be generated
[05:29] <mathew> hi
[05:29] <Guest23965> echo echo echo
[05:30] <liteIRC> Hi
[05:30] <Guest23965> why are rooms always full but chat always dead?
[05:31] <Guest23965> Xchat FTW
[05:31] <Guest23965> FAIL
[05:32] <liteIRC> No idea I am here getting Linux help. I think k sure just here to spam. ;)
[05:32] <liteIRC> I think you are**
[05:32] <Guest23965> im new to linux also how are you finding it
[05:33] <Freewheelin> working great so far...
[05:33] <Guest23965> how can you spam a dead room?
[05:33] <Freewheelin> don't know, how?
[05:34] <Guest23965> i dont think you can lol
[05:34] <Freewheelin> any estimate of how long ubuntu can run without reboot?
[05:34] <Guest23965> i think ubuntu opens linux up to a whole new lot of pp;
[05:35] <Guest23965> ppl*
[05:35] <jeffrey_f> Many chat clients allow for signing in but not physically being on chat
[05:35] <Freewheelin> yep I just leave it running in the background
[05:35] <Guest23965> why sign in if not to chat?
[05:35] <liteIRC> Its treating me nicely in past but not this time at 13.10. I had 6.06lf
[05:36] <liteIRC> 6.0.6 LTS
[05:36] <JazzBot> oh gosh so many broken packages :(
[05:36] <Freewheelin> not sure what that means...
[05:36] <Temper> how can i auto login on ubuntu?
[05:37] <Freewheelin> thats funny, I can't stop mine from autologin
[05:37] <Temper> without x
[05:38] <Temper> Freewheelin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[05:38] <Freewheelin> got me there. all the wizards are in bed
[05:38] <jeffrey_f> Freewheelin: Story from years ago;  server at a university was walled up during a renovation. Server was very much used and maintained by admins but IT had no idea where the server physically was.  Server had an uptime of over 9 years before it was found and brought into the server room.  The longest my desktop was up was over 5 months before a power failure rebooted it.
[05:38] <AllusiveGold> Resolve anyones skype name into an IP address using "http://ct.lefs.me/skype/resolve.php?id=USERNAME" free skype resolver, fast and accurate!
[05:38] <Freewheelin> nice
[05:39] <Guest23965> lol lost a server
[05:39] <Guest23965> we call it ghost
[05:39] <Freewheelin> Temper: thanks for the link.
[05:39] <liteIRC> Ugh with ati driver.
[05:40] <JazzBot> ugh with this nvidia driver
[05:41] <liteIRC> I heard but bull. My geforce 9800gt doing nicely in opensuse
[05:41] <Jeffry> Hey guys I have a major problem with ubuntu
[05:42] <Freewheelin> Jeffrey: probably bigger risk with cats unplugging the computer than it crashing
[05:42] <jeffrey_f> Jeffry: State the problem, state what you know so far......someone will answer
[05:42] <Jeffry> Ubuntu had a kernal panic 10 times in a row than my ubuntu partion was corupted
[05:43] <liteIRC> Wipe and reinstall?
[05:43] <jeffrey_f> Freewheelin: I know that from experience.
[05:44] <Freewheelin> Jeffrey_f: me too
[05:44] <Jeffry> i tried to wide and install again and it just wont install on the partition i tried to make a new one but it fails
[05:45] <liteIRC> Did u zero it?
[05:46] <Jeffry> yes i did
[05:46] <Freewheelin> last time I installed Linux...some version of red hat, 10-12 years ago...flakey config and little peripheral support. I'm amazed how well this works
[05:48] <Jeffry> now on my windows 8 oem efi install im have bootup failurs and windows 8 is giving me errors with the hdd now
[05:49] <JazzBot> if i accidentally did an upgrade (using apt-get) can i undo some how? hehe
[05:49] <Jeffry> I'm not sure what to do now
[05:51] <phiscribe> JazzBot how old is the drive? 5 years and older could very well be dieing
[05:51] <phiscribe> more or less
[05:52] <Jeffry> if you ment me i just got this laptop
[05:52] <phiscribe> when you tried to wipe and reinstall did the partitions format correctly?
[05:52] <liteIRC> Anyone knows the program that benchmark hard drive with variety cluster sizes and tells j the best
[05:52] <Jeffry> Yes it said they were formatt corectly
[05:52] <JazzBot> :p
[05:52] <liteIRC> Telling you the best choice***
[05:53] <JazzBot> Jeffry was it used? :p
[05:53] <Jeffry> No brand new
[05:54] <ishanyx> still under warranty?
[05:54] <jeffrey_f> Freewheelin: I started using Ubuntu on Ver 10.06 (2006).  It was hit and miss getting stuff working without effort.  They'd fix it and break it on the next update.......In the last 3 years it has been pretty rock solid
[05:54] <Jeffry> i think the warenty was voided when the efi was edited'
[05:56] <ishanyx> it sounds like the hdd is failing
[05:57] <Jeffry> do you think shaking the hdd would make it so they cant read the files so i get my warenty back :P
[05:58] <sevenseacat> lol
[05:58] <Corvette> How can I find the icons used by an application?
[06:00] <prince1942> after installing ubuntu server 13.10 ... when i install  udo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop.... It wont shows ICON menu
[06:00] <prince1942> How can i fix that??
[06:01] <Jeffry> ok now i think it was a windows virus cause now a my mouse is moving on its own and clicking on its own
[06:01] <prince1942> even I can't open terminal by alt+ctl+T
[06:02] <dibeckbr> Olá
[06:02] <dibeckbr> '-'
[06:04] <prince1942> quit
[06:05] <Jeffry> can a virus overclock a hdd?
[06:07] <grahamsavage> how do i disable ipv6? and check that it's disabled?
[06:08] <grahamsavage> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 says 1
[06:08] <LeAgente> check network manager or the control center
[06:08] <LeAgente> there should be an ipv6 tab
[06:08] <grahamsavage> yeah there is
[06:08] <nevyn> Jeffry: that seems nosensical
[06:08] <grahamsavage> LeAgente: it says method: ignore
[06:09] <grahamsavage> but i don't know if that means it's still enabled at a network level
[06:09] <grahamsavage> when i look at ss -lpn6  i still get two records appearing
[06:09] <LeAgente> check your IP with ifconfig
[06:10] <grahamsavage> ok.. i've just got eth0, eth1 and a loopback
[06:10] <Jeffry> well im just trying to find the culprut to it dieing on me
[06:10] <grahamsavage> none of them seem to show ipv6 style addresses
[06:10] <nevyn> Jeffry: what does smart say?
[06:10] <LeAgente> so, sounds like it's just using normal IPs then
[06:10] <Jeffry> smart?
[06:10] <nevyn> ok.
[06:10] <nevyn> what's the problem?
[06:10] <Gallomimia> can anyone suggest to me some reading prior to attempting to install ubuntu on a pair of SSD's in raid0 ?
[06:11] <nevyn> Gallomimia: do you have any spinning rust in the system?
[06:11] <Gallomimia> yep lots
[06:11] <Gallomimia> it's currently running on a single 500g
[06:12] <Gallomimia> so i'll obviously need to configure it to mount various parts of the system, such as /home from platters
[06:12] <nevyn> so don't do that.
[06:12] <nevyn> use dmcache
[06:14] <nevyn> Gallomimia: so if you have enough spinning rust to make a raid1 or raid5
[06:14] <nevyn> do that.
[06:14] <nevyn> then add the ssd's as accelerators using dmcache.
[06:14] <Gallomimia> what's a dmcache?
[06:14] <LeAgente> what if he wants to boot from SSDs?
[06:14] <nevyn> why?
[06:15] <Gallomimia> i was going to boot from ssd's but
[06:15] <nevyn> mmm.
[06:15] <Gallomimia> if there's something called dmcache that i can read about
[06:16] <nevyn> 02:00 <@CRCinAU> looking at my online power usage
[06:16] <nevyn> 02:00 <@CRCinAU> "Your consumption so far this week is 3.6 times that of last week"
[06:16] <phiscribe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-cache
[06:16] <nevyn> oops.
[06:16] <LeAgente> oh, maybe you're on to something, nevyn
[06:16] <gusg> I did "apt-cache --recurse depends mypackage" and I'm wondering what something like "libqtcore4 \n \t Breaks: libqt4-core" means. What does "break" mean?
[06:16] <LeAgente> would using dm-cache speed up boot significantly?
[06:17] <nevyn> depends.
[06:17] <LeAgente> that's the whole point in getting SSDs, right?
[06:17] <LeAgente> to speed up your system
[06:17] <nevyn> possibly less than putting /boot on ssd. but. it'll give a greater performance improvement to ALL io bound tasks
[06:18] <nevyn> LeAgente: how often do you boot the system
[06:18] <LeAgente> depends on what you're doing
[06:18] <nevyn> right.
[06:18] <LeAgente> but yeah, not often. good point
[06:18] <Gallomimia> boot is pretty durn fast already
[06:19] <Gallomimia> most of the delay comes from the mobo not finding the disks before the OS starts looking for them. or something
[06:19] <nevyn> right.
[06:19] <Gallomimia> a problem i've decided not to suss out till i get the new SSD's involved
[06:19] <nevyn> and you only use things like the initrd file during boot.
[06:19] <nevyn> never when you're running
[06:19] <LeAgente> can you configure dm-cache at install?
[06:20] <nevyn> don't think so.
[06:20] <nevyn> but I'd probably do configure raid during install..
[06:20] <nevyn> and lvm
[06:20] <nevyn> then put dm-cache in.
[06:20] <LeAgente> yeah, there's support for raid and lvm
[06:20] <nevyn> and possibly multipath because you can never have enough dm ;)
[06:21] <LeAgente> is it an addon to raid / lvm?
[06:21] <nevyn> no.
[06:21] <nevyn> it's a dm plugin
[06:21] <Gallomimia> well here's the story. i have 3 identical 500gb drives, a pair of 2gig drives,  another 2gig drive that's dissimilar, and the 2 ssd's. the motherboard has 6 sata ports
[06:21] <nevyn> like raid/lvm but different
[06:21] <nevyn> 2gig?
[06:21] <nevyn> or 2tb?
[06:21] <Gallomimia> and i want it to load games faster ><
[06:21] <LeAgente> or 2TB?
[06:21] <Gallomimia> ah yeah
[06:21] <Gallomimia> :D
[06:22] <Gallomimia> funny
[06:22] <Gallomimia> back when 1gb was big.... 33mhz was fast
[06:22] <nevyn> Gallomimia: use dm-cache.
[06:22] <nevyn> how disimilar is the third 2tb drive?
[06:22] <Gallomimia> uh... same rpm, different brand
[06:23] <nevyn> that's ok.
[06:23] <nevyn> how much of this has data on it?
[06:23] <Gallomimia> all of it :P
[06:23] <nevyn> that can't be replaced/re-installed easily?
[06:23] <Gallomimia> not so much that i can't copy it around
[06:23] <nevyn> hrm.
[06:23] <nevyn> can you free 2 of the 2tb drives?
[06:24] <Gallomimia> i think the other 2tb is completely empty actually
[06:24] <nevyn> so there's currently no raid in this config at all?
[06:24] <LeAgente> could he set up lvm and add the other drives later?
[06:24] <Gallomimia> no raid at all
[06:25] <Gallomimia> i dabbled with raiding a pair of 500's but never did get around to it
[06:25] <Gallomimia> then i used one of those to backup an older disk
[06:25] <nevyn> how much data do you have?
[06:25] <Gallomimia> i'd ballpark it at around 3-4 TB
[06:25] <nevyn> df -h and add up the numbers..
[06:25] <Gallomimia> they're not all spinning
[06:25] <Gallomimia> or linux formated :( used to be a mac head
[06:26] <nevyn> so can you get 2 blank 2tb drives?
[06:26] <Gallomimia> i also have a rather free 3TB usb
[06:26] <Gallomimia> i think so
[06:26] <nevyn> ok.
[06:26] <nevyn> step one.
[06:26] <nevyn> get as many as possible. large drives empty.
[06:26] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure i need that big a drive honestly.. i'd prefer to use the three 500's
[06:27] <nevyn> why?
[06:27] <Gallomimia> i'll consider tho. you're suggesting a raid 1?
[06:27] <nevyn> no.
[06:27] <nevyn> raid5
[06:27] <Gallomimia> with 2?
[06:27] <nevyn> I'll get to the third.
[06:27] <nevyn> and then you'll have 3x2tb giving you 4tb with raid protection
[06:27] <gusg> I saw an episode
[06:27] <nevyn> mmm...
[06:28] <LeAgente> doesn't raid5 need 3 disks?
[06:28]  * Gallomimia peeks inside the case at the one that is spinning
[06:28] <gusg> I did "apt-cache --recurse depends mypackage" and I'm wondering what something like "libqtcore4 \n \t Breaks: libqt4-core" means. What does "break" mean?
[06:28] <nevyn> you can create a degraded raid5 with 2 disks in linux.
[06:28] <Gallomimia> how is it "degraded"
[06:28] <nevyn> then add a 3rd to it
[06:28] <LeAgente> but then no parity, right?
[06:29] <LeAgente> oh
[06:29] <Gallomimia> sounds like raid3 to me
[06:30] <LeAgente> oh, raid5 is a distributed parity
[06:30] <Gallomimia> right. striped like the data
[06:30] <LeAgente> why not just use the three disks from the beginning?
[06:30] <Gallomimia> if i'm going to involve 3 disks, i'll free them all
[06:31] <nevyn> Gallomimia: if you've got capacity somewhere to do that then sure do that.
[06:31] <Gallomimia> pretty sure one is empty. one is 1/4 full of backups from my mac, and the third is nearly full of data
[06:31] <nevyn> I tend not to have capacity floating around for such things.
[06:31] <Gallomimia> i'd like to have that going on :)
[06:31] <nevyn> Gallomimia: check all the drives with smartctl before you start.
[06:31] <Gallomimia> i'm trying to avoid having so many drives in a raid. i have an open 2bay NAS to set up and a USB3 drive dock
[06:32] <nevyn> Gallomimia: why?
[06:32] <Gallomimia> meh. i'll buy some more
[06:32] <Gallomimia> i'm a data whore. i like having files
[06:32] <nevyn> buy more.
[06:32] <LeAgente> you can reduce your time machine backup size by deleting old backups
[06:32] <Gallomimia> yep. soon tho
[06:32] <nevyn> so imho 500gig drives arn't worth having online
[06:33] <Gallomimia> you know what else reduces a time machine backup size? erasing it, deleting your macosx partition and running ubuntu on the laptop instead :P
[06:33] <LeAgente> if you're ok with deleting your backups, that's fine
[06:33] <nevyn> ok. so you have a new shiny 4tb raid.
[06:33] <nevyn> you then setup LVM on that.
[06:33] <LeAgente> wat
[06:34] <Gallomimia> i'll grab the pertinent files out of that
[06:34] <nevyn> and carve out LV's for /home / /gamedata whatever...
[06:34] <Gallomimia> i have to read more on my motherboard. it has some onboard RAID controller........
[06:34] <nevyn> !fakeraid
[06:34] <Gallomimia> and i think it has 2 sata ports on the northbridge while 4 are on the southbridge
[06:35] <nevyn> Gallomimia: the sorts of raid that ship on motherboards are usually WORSE than linux software raid
[06:35] <nevyn> like a lot worse.
[06:35] <Gallomimia> software raid runs on the cpu right/
[06:35] <nevyn> yes.
[06:35] <nevyn> cpu's are REALLY fast.
[06:35] <nevyn> like REALLY REALLY REALLY fast
[06:35] <Gallomimia> cpu power is bleeding out my anus. it's ram bandwidth that i'm short on
[06:36] <nevyn> ram bandwith or io bandwidth?
[06:36] <nevyn> if you don't have enough ram bandwidht buy faster ram
[06:36] <nevyn> but an SSD won't fix it.
[06:36] <LeAgente> but his motherboard my limit the clock
[06:36] <Gallomimia> it doesn't go much faster. i'm considering overclocking it
[06:37] <LeAgente> yeah!
[06:37] <LeAgente> but be careful
[06:37] <Gallomimia> no shit sherlock
[06:37] <nevyn> how have you determined that's the choke point
[06:37] <nevyn> ?
[06:37] <Gallomimia> simple math
[06:37] <nevyn> and ram to what?
[06:37] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: please keep the language clean
[06:37] <nevyn> ram to vidcard for textures?
[06:37] <nevyn> ram to cpu?
[06:37] <Gallomimia> cpu
[06:38] <Gallomimia> the cpu is 4GHz octcore, and the ram is 1600MHz
[06:38] <nevyn> so buy a cpu with more cache?
[06:38] <nevyn> oh.
[06:38] <Gallomimia> it's not a far stretch to imagine how badly the bottleneck must be
[06:38] <nevyn> oh.
[06:38] <Gallomimia> i've benchmarked zero things on this system
[06:39] <nevyn> so. life's more complicated than that.
[06:39] <Gallomimia> sure is
[06:39] <nevyn> the 4Ghz (wow where did you get a 4Gig cpu?
[06:39] <JazzBot> hey, so I got a pretty  nice intel i7 with the whole HD 4000 dealio. However on my second monitor their is massive screen tearing and I noticed it switches to 30hz
[06:39] <Gallomimia> the internet.
[06:39] <Gallomimia> it's an amd fx8350
[06:39] <JazzBot> any ideas?
[06:39] <Gallomimia> 4ghz clock from the factory. i'm sure it'll oc to 4.5 or 5
[06:40] <Gallomimia> but... seriously. why bother when i've never gotten it past 50% util
[06:40] <nevyn> I'd doubt it. things get seriously wacky at those speeds.
[06:40] <JazzBot> i trying to render a 1920 by 1080p res with 16:9
[06:40] <nevyn> Gallomimia: so using the cpu is easy. just do things that don't need much data.. and are very parallel
[06:40] <Gallomimia> JazzBot: integrated graphics :( bad
[06:41] <nevyn> JazzBot: don't listen to him.
[06:41] <JazzBot> oh I also have a nvidia card :p
[06:41] <nevyn> JazzBot: is this a laptop?
[06:41] <JazzBot> yes
[06:41] <Gallomimia> i'd like to try bitcoin mining on the cpu, just to see how many hashes it can do
[06:41] <nevyn> JazzBot: is it optimus style stuff?
[06:41] <JazzBot> got the whole bumblebee setup and all, I prefer to run the monitors from my cpu
[06:42] <JazzBot> yep
[06:42] <Gallomimia> which gpu's drive the monitors? which one is tearing?
[06:42] <nevyn> how is the second monitor connected?
[06:42] <JazzBot> hdmi
[06:42] <nevyn> yeah.
[06:42] <JazzBot> and not using my gpu for monitors
[06:42] <nevyn> it's not uncommon for hdmi to be wired to the nvidia
[06:43] <nevyn> and the lvds to be wired to the intel
[06:43] <nevyn> this is crazy but it's not uncommon
[06:43] <JazzBot> seems like it :p
[06:43] <nevyn> arlied talked about this mess at last years LCA he might have done an update at this years..
[06:44] <Gallomimia> what have i read about mixed gpu's not playing nice together... with the intel integrated
[06:44] <Yadda> Hey, I'm trying to use an Ubuntu LiveCD to install Grub as a workaround for an issue I'm having with Ye Olde SteamOSe, and I'm running into a...small problem. Whenever I boot Ubuntu under UEFI, it immediately drops to a Grub prompt.
[06:44] <Yadda> from the liveCD, I mean
[06:44] <JazzBot> yeah its kind of a disaster,  I hate it but its what I got and have to deal with :p
[06:45] <JazzBot> ive spent 9 hours today messing around with it
[06:45] <JazzBot> gr
[06:45] <Gallomimia> JazzBot: look on the bright side. at least it's not an oc'd mickeymouse'd ati card with crap for linux drivers?
[06:46] <JazzBot> hahaha yep, and I went through that disaster on my last computer xD
[06:46] <Gallomimia> i'm talking to you with such a computer
[06:46] <JazzBot> ah
[06:46] <JazzBot> i feel your pain bro
[06:47] <Gallomimia> thanks :/ i feel the pain of your second monitor problem
[06:47] <Gallomimia> that reminds me. i best go buy a DVI cable for this rig, and see how that runs. then maybe i can hook up a spare monitor with vga
[06:47] <JazzBot> yea
[06:48] <Gallomimia> nevyn i was wrong. the 3x 2tb drives are all baracuda's
[06:48] <Yadda> erm... hello?
[06:48] <nevyn> Gallomimia: so raid then dmcache then lvm then filesystems
[06:48] <Gallomimia> install is last?
[06:49] <nevyn> !steamos
[06:49] <nevyn> well.
[06:49] <Gallomimia> interesting
[06:49] <Gallomimia> let me write some of this down
[06:49] <nevyn> Gallomimia: I'd do the install and do the raid and lvm then go back and add dmcache by hand after the system'
[06:49] <nevyn> s running
[06:49] <nevyn> lvm will let you do this happily
[06:50] <Yadda> just... try to boot into Ubuntu liveCD... Bam, Grub terminal unless I boot in legacy.
[06:50] <Gallomimia> keep in mind, this is the machine i'm sitting on now. it's running off one of the single 500's
[06:50] <nevyn> is it running on lvm? or just on raw partitions?
[06:51] <Gallomimia> it's on whatever ubuntu installer gave me by default
[06:51] <nevyn> if it's on lvm it's reasonably straightforward to migrate it online.
[06:51] <Gallomimia> i don't even want to migrate it :/
[06:52] <Gallomimia> i'll copy my basic files and maybe my steam library
[06:52] <Gallomimia> better to go with a clean install n'est-ce pas?
[06:53] <Gallomimia> !kernel
[06:53] <nevyn> if your install is 64bit then I'd migrate it.
[06:53] <Gallomimia> uhhhhh
[06:53] <Gallomimia> is it?
[06:53] <sshinobi> greets. wondering if anyone can tell me how to pipe internet over a cat5 cable from a netbook to a desktop.
[06:53] <Gallomimia> netbook is running what?
[06:53] <sshinobi> ubuntu
[06:54] <Gallomimia> connection sharing built into ubuntu?
[06:54] <Ben64> sshinobi: uh, get a router?
[06:54] <zain_> Hey, is there anyone know how to enable the Chinese input method on Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit?
[06:54] <Gallomimia> great idea ben64 :) send him the money
[06:54] <nevyn> I think network manager can even do it.
[06:54] <JazzBot> im wondering if compiz can fix my issue
[06:54] <JazzBot> gross
[06:54] <thoonai> hey, my ACL inst working :/ I set a user for rwx, but I can't access the shared folder throug this user
[06:55] <nevyn> JazzBot: the problem is that there's no way to co-ordinate the intel writing the framebuffer and the nvidia reading it.
[06:55] <sshinobi> I've got 3 wrt54gs, but I'm doing it hardline.
[06:55] <sshinobi> so connection sharing in network prefs?
[06:55] <nevyn> yeah.
[06:55] <Yadda> So nobody has any suggestions on why booting the Ubuntu liveCD in UEFI causes it to bomb?
[06:55] <JazzBot> heh.......
[06:55] <nevyn> which version of the CD?
[06:55] <Yadda> tried both 13.04 and 13.10, both 64-bit
[06:55] <Gallomimia> i'm not finding that sshinobi but maybe a search of the ubuntu site will give it up
[06:56] <JazzBot> however, im just running my cpu, nothing is running in my gpu right now, and my hdmi port is wired directly into my cpu
[06:56] <Gallomimia> in short, you need natd to run, and a firewall rule to redirect traffic to it.
[06:56] <Ben64> sshinobi: if you have 3 routers, why not use one?
[06:56] <Yadda> I turned off fast boot, turned off secure boot, never had SRT set up to begin with, and I think hibernate is disabled because the fast startup option isn't even there to turn off.
[06:57] <Yadda> still chokes.
[06:57] <sshinobi> they all have open wrt on them for meshnet purposes, and are in my car.
[06:57] <sshinobi> outside.
[06:57] <Gallomimia> sshinobi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/248896/how-to-set-up-internet-connection-sharing this is what turns up with google. let me view those options
[06:58] <KI7MT> Yadda, while unfortunate, this issue is not unique to Ubuntu. Best I can suggest is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:59] <thoonai> hey, my ACL inst working :/ I set a user for rwx, but I can't access the shared folder throug this user
[06:59] <Gallomimia> sshinobi: i believe you configure the wired port like it shows in the picture, shared to other computers
[06:59] <sshinobi> alright
[06:59] <thoonai> sorry for posting the same ;)
[07:00] <Gallomimia> thoonai: the user needs X permissions on all directories before the dir in question
[07:01] <Gallomimia> is it local only, or is there some kind of network protocol involved?
[07:03] <Gallomimia> thoonai: watcha figure out so far?
[07:03] <thoonai> Gallomimia: it should workin the /home directories of the users, which are mounted via nfs
[07:03] <maxxsire> I've used ubuntu with no problems for over a year and a half on my computer but now when I open any browser after about 20 minutes I can barely do anything within the browser and within a few minutes of that the browser crashes. I can even open just five tabs and it will be running fine then let my computer set there the 20 minutes and it will start acting up. I used to be able to run 40+ tabs for days on my computer with no problem
[07:03] <Gallomimia> assuming the perms on /home itself are right
[07:03] <mimic`>  /buffer move 14
[07:03] <mimic`> uh
[07:03] <mimic`> nvm
[07:03] <maxxsire> having the difficulty for about a month now and it's getting worse all the time.
[07:04] <thoonai> Gallomimia: I set the /home directories to 700 each user
[07:04] <thoonai> Gallomimia: probably thats a problem
[07:04] <Gallomimia> mimic`: good thing you weren't authing to nickserv :)
[07:04] <Gallomimia> i mean /home itself
[07:04] <Gallomimia> ls -ld /home
[07:04] <JazzBot> when i run a xrandr command how will i know which display it will work on ? :p
[07:04] <uncola> hey guys
[07:04] <uncola> what's up with ubuntu?  how did they become the popular linux instead of red hat?
[07:04] <mimic`> Gallomimia: don't have a registered nick here ;P
[07:05] <somsip> !ot | uncola
[07:05] <uncola> I need emotional support for ubuntu being popular instead of red hat
[07:05] <uncola> where did red hat go wrong?  is it because they were too commercial?
[07:05] <Beldar> maxxsire, the browser the only problem?
[07:05] <somsip> uncola: join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss there
[07:05] <thoonai> Gallomimia: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Jan 15 07:25 /home/
[07:06] <uncola> they told me to come here
[07:06] <Gallomimia> hm. looks right thoonai. the 700 perms on each user's dir are pretty good too
[07:06] <Gallomimia> did you chown them?
[07:06] <lemimique> and now i do :)
[07:06] <thoonai> uncola: yep here is support and there ##offtopic is the chit chat stuff
[07:06] <Lihis> I'm pretty confused about graphics card drives and I'm using Ubuntu 13.10. If I install nvidia drives (331.20) from their website then do I need the xorg-video-* packages?
[07:07] <thoonai> Gallomimia: they were generated by adduser
[07:07] <JazzBot> sorry never mind about my last question
[07:07] <uncola> typical open source arrogance!  no wonder linux failed and linus pauling didn't win that nobel prize
[07:07] <maxxsire> can someone please help me I've been on here for about ten days now and nothing is fixing it. When I long on to my guest account it works fine and for some reason I have 150 plus more processes on my regular account with the same applications open.
[07:07] <Gallomimia> Lihis: i've been told installing graphics drivers from the website is wrong. at least it was for amd drivers. get the drivers from the repo using software center or apt-get
[07:08] <maxxsire> ?msg Blendar the browser, any of them, is the problem'
[07:08] <Gallomimia> thoonai: double check to see what the owner is on each dir. ls -ld again
[07:08] <somsip> maxxsire: what are the differing process between the two users? Use paste.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <Lihis> Gallomimia: So I should uninstall driver and install it from xorg-edgers repo?
[07:09] <Beldar> !tab | maxxsire
[07:09] <thoonai> Gallomimia: drwx------ 2 user1 user1 4096 Jan 15 07:25 user1/
[07:09] <Ben64> Lihis: ppa's are not supported here, but if you absolutely need 331, then a ppa is much better than doing it manually
[07:10] <thoonai> Gallomimia: drwx------ 3 user2 user2 4096 Jan 15 07:45 user2/
[07:10] <maxxsire> thanks good to know
[07:10] <Gallomimia> maxxsire sounds like you have something mean involved in your browsers. or the software to render websites? i think somsip has an idea for looking for the nasty things
[07:11] <Lihis> Ben64: Okay. Thanks for the help. This is second time when I get updates to xorg-video-* packages and that breaks my Unity.
[07:11] <Gallomimia> lihis i uninstalled my driver, but i did not get it from xorg-edgers
[07:11] <Beldar> maxxsire, If it is just the browser try making a new profile, you do not identify the actual browser, details are the key here.
[07:11] <Gallomimia> uh... or did i?
[07:13] <maxxsire> What's pastebin? I use Firefox, Chrome, Konqueror
[07:13] <Lihis> Gallomimia: I check is 331 driver avaible from official repos
[07:13] <Gallomimia> crud. i can't remember how i added anything. i think it was from a ppa tho. i also had to install an advanced kernel
[07:13] <thoonai> Gallomimia: I'm testing it on my ext4 fs on a virtual machine running ubuntu 13.10
[07:13] <thoonai> maxxsire: paste.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <Gallomimia> oh. i bet there's a mismatch in uid's between the two systems
[07:14] <Ben64> Lihis: 319 appears to be the latest in the official repos
[07:15] <thoonai> Gallomimia: which two systems?
[07:15] <Gallomimia> the base system and the vm?
[07:15] <thoonai> Gallomimia: I'm just on the test system
[07:15] <Gallomimia> hm.
[07:16] <Lihis> Ben64: Thanks.
[07:16] <Gallomimia> well i propose you test the various systems with the perms at 777 770 and 700
[07:16] <Gallomimia> users i mean
[07:17] <Gallomimia> obv you don't want to leave it on 777. maybe just 775
[07:17] <thoonai> Gallomimia: this is the next step
[07:17] <Gallomimia> something seems messed up
[07:17] <Gallomimia> and i'm leaning on the uid's
[07:17] <Gallomimia> you can read the uid of the owner with stat
[07:17] <maxxsire> What do you want me to put into paste.ubuntu.com
[07:17] <Gallomimia> and you can find the uid of the user1 with........ something
[07:18] <Gallomimia> i usually just cat /etc/passwd
[07:18] <Gallomimia> but there's a userinfo command or some such thing
[07:18] <somsip> maxxsire: do 'ps aux > processes.txt' as the main user and the guest user. Edit both files. Look for differences. Summarise them. Post that summary to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:19] <maxxsire> Thanks will do
[07:19] <thoonai> Gallomimia: it works with 777
[07:19] <thoonai> Gallomimia: but thats quite awkward ...
[07:20] <Gallomimia> what about 770?
[07:20] <thoonai> Gallomimia: doesnt work
[07:20] <Gallomimia> uid mismatch
[07:20] <Gallomimia> it SAYS it's user1 the owner, but it isn't, somehow
[07:21] <Gallomimia> probably the best thing to do is change your nfs mount options. this is not something i know about
[07:21] <thoonai> Gallomimia: to be honest I'm just on my ext4 mounted from the virtual hard drive
[07:21] <thoonai> ...
[07:22] <maxxsire> Do I put  'ps aux > processes.txt' in terminal?
[07:22] <Gallomimia> yessir
[07:22] <Gallomimia> this is going to make a list of programs running and put it in a text file called processes.txt
[07:22] <Gallomimia> then go to the other account, and do the same. read the files and see what's different
[07:23] <thoonai> Gallomimia: I'm not allowed to play with universitys nfs-server
[07:23] <Gallomimia> something in your main account is acting stupid, and we wanna know what.
[07:23] <maxxsire> nothing comes up is the file in a special folder
[07:23] <Gallomimia> thoonai: oh that's funny :) but yeah, it should only be in your client-options that you change things
[07:23] <Trion> Hello people. How can I use a flash drive in OS in VirtualBox? There are invisible.
[07:24] <Gallomimia> maxxsire: the file should be created in your home directory
[07:25] <maxxsire> Thank you logging in as guest now
[07:25] <Gallomimia> maxxsire: remember when you log out of guest it deletes all files ><
[07:25] <starn> can anyone here help me with setting up a network bridge? i'm using linux mint 15. yes i know it's not officially supported but i am hoping it's enough like ubuntu someone can help. for i've been dealing with linux mint help and they're mostly rude so far.
[07:25] <somsip> starn: without wanting to be equally rude, it is a #mint issue. We can't help here
[07:25] <thoonai> Trion: before you can use the usb-devices as itself you must get the addition pack from the virtualbox-hp
[07:26] <Gallomimia> starn we just had a question like that. but for ubuntu. it's under the network manager
[07:26] <Gallomimia> i doubt it's as easy. cause ubuntu is like that.
[07:26] <starn> basically i need my guest machine to use a local static ip and the host machine can do what ever. i've droped down the menu in network manager and told it to share but it doesn't work
[07:26] <thoonai> starn: no clue atm, but look for bridge-utils. they may help you
[07:26] <starn> somsip: all they would do is send me same info in the ubuntu documentations
[07:26] <somsip> starn: you may get someone who wil help you by PM, but it isn't something that should be done in-channel
[07:27] <starn> what about ##networking?
[07:27] <thoonai> Trion: or you set up a 'shared folder'
[07:27] <Gallomimia> probably
[07:27] <maxxsire> Will save file in a permanent directory then
[07:27] <Gallomimia> the short of it is, you need the main connection to be shared to clients on the secondary connection
[07:27] <starn> thoonai: i'm just trying to share my hosts machine wifi over ethernet.
[07:27] <thoonai> Gallomimia: I'm still confused
[07:28] <starn> i know when ubuntu comes out with mate i'm switching back to ubuntu
 Thanks. Now I know that I need additional pack as virtualbox-hp. Is it free?
[07:28] <Gallomimia> thoonai: try this: stat -c %u /home/user1
[07:28] <thoonai> starn: networkmanager has an option called 'shared to other computers'
[07:28] <starn> yeah i tried that method it didn't seem to work
[07:28] <thoonai> Gallomimia: 1001
[07:29] <Gallomimia> now find out what the uid of user1 is
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> starn: don't get your hopes up for mate to be in stock ubuntu
[07:29] <thoonai> starn: where does it fails?
[07:29] <somsip> aeon-ltd: just been announced that it is
[07:29] <starn> i'm going to try ##networking   .. anyways any idea when mate will come to ubuntu?? and it doesn't need to be stock. so long as it's got mate.
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> wut?
[07:29] <somsip> aeon-ltd: http://is.gd/rzaU47
[07:30] <thoonai> Gallomimia: uid=1001(numeriker) gid=1001(numeriker) groups=1001(numeriker),1003(numerik)
[07:30] <starn> unity is to new and fancy for this machine. need older interface.
[07:30] <thoonai> unity is insane
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> ah ok, available officially, but doesn't replace unity as stock
[07:30] <Trion> thoonai: No. I just want to copy couple files from Ubuntu OS to other OS in VirtualBox
[07:30] <somsip> aeon-ltd: yeah, just FYI...
[07:31] <Gallomimia> thoonai: yep. i'm confused too
[07:31] <Gallomimia> it *should* work
[07:31] <JazzBot> Gallomimia: I fixed the res and refresh rate on my monitors. now I face screen tear still :( any suggestions ?
[07:31] <Gallomimia> JazzBot: hammer :/
[07:31] <finnigan> how do i used play on linux to install diablo ii lod with the new no cd installer?
[07:31] <thoonai> Gallomimia: xctly thats why I'm sitting here and thinking, that I'm stupif
[07:32] <Gallomimia> !warez finnigan
[07:32] <finnigan> !warez
[07:32] <Gallomimia> thanks.
[07:32] <finnigan> !warez
[07:32] <finnigan> who is talking about piracy?
[07:32] <Gallomimia> no cd == piracy
[07:33] <finnigan> i bought the game
[07:33] <Trion> finnigan: We cannot help people who plays with devel )
[07:33] <finnigan> no they have a no cd installer now
[07:33] <finnigan> you can play the game via a download from battle.net
[07:33] <thoonai> Trion: try the shared folder-option, else download the extension-pack for usb
[07:33] <finnigan> trion what is devel?
[07:33] <Gallomimia> interesting. does it run on linux natively?
[07:33] <Gallomimia> or do you have to run it under wine?
[07:34] <finnigan> wine and it comes up fine but says i dont have the game installed
[07:34] <KI7MT> Is there a Ubuntu support question in all this?
[07:34] <starn> i think he's talking about blizzards official patch to run the game without the cd.. not without the cd key..
[07:34] <Gallomimia> sounds legit, i guess
[07:34] <finnigan> i used play on linux to install diablo ii and it worked fine
[07:34] <Trion> I mean a devil. I try to joke about Diablo games )
[07:34] <Gallomimia> is there a channel for wine gaming?
[07:34] <finnigan> i dont know
[07:35] <hipitihop> hi glitsj16, seems as no movement on my headset issue. I guess it is low priority as it seems to be fine in a clean build (based on live cd 12.04 and/or 13.10) so there are bigger fish to fry. You mentioned you might have an idea though
[07:35] <somsip> Gallomimia: #wine-hq from memory
[07:35] <somsip> !wine
[07:35] <Gallomimia> cause i think that'd be more pertinent than here. most people here want help with their filesystem, broken OS installs, or browsers
[07:35] <starn> finnigan: you could possible register your CD key with blizzard's battle.net and download their installer and try running it on play on linux or even wine.
[07:35] <Gallomimia> getting steam apps to run under wine is on my todo list for sure
[07:35] <finnigan> #wine-hq is not a channel
[07:35] <KI7MT> He prob wants #winehq .. but #wine better that ubuntu  ..lol
[07:36] <KI7MT> *than
[07:36] <starn> finnigan: i've registered all my games with blizzards official site so i could just download an installer and it'll download all the files needed to run the game with out a physical cd.
[07:36] <somsip> finnigan: #winehq like the bot and KI7MT have said
[07:36] <starn> Gallomimia: i've managed to get some steam games to work under wine :)
[07:36] <thoonai> Gallomimia: there is this: every parent folder has to be accessible thing
[07:36] <thoonai> Gallomimia: may this break it?
[07:36] <Gallomimia> such as? i want bioware games to run
[07:36] <finnigan> starn ive registered and downloaded and its an installer
[07:37] <finnigan> it still needs to install
[07:37] <Gallomimia> thoonai: that's what we checked first right?
[07:37] <Gallomimia> and it works when you chomd /home/user1 to 777
[07:37] <thoonai> Gallomimia: /home is root:root ...
[07:37] <starn> finnigan: did the installer not work?? i personally use wine.. which i think play on linux is based on wine or is wine? which would mean you need to go to the winehq support channel
[07:37] <Gallomimia> therefore user1 already has permissions to get to their home dir. just not their actual home dir
[07:37] <Gallomimia> thoonai: yes but it's 775
[07:37] <thoonai> drwxr-xr-x  5 root       root       4096 Jan 15 07:25 .
[07:37] <Gallomimia> ah, 755 whatever
[07:37] <mobi323> Hello All.
[07:38] <Gallomimia> root:root is what /home should be
[07:38] <thoonai> I'am confused
[07:38] <finnigan> starn the installer for diablo ii worked but the installer of diablo ii lod acts as if i dont have diablo ii installed
[07:38] <Gallomimia> it's a shared dir for all users. what other user should own /home?
[07:39] <thoonai> Gallomimia: there can only be one ... root for sure
[07:39] <Gallomimia> thoonai: the permissions you're interested in for /home are the last 3. which are r-x and that's good. this makes it so no one can delete someone else's home dir, but everyone can read the listing of /home and everyone can work in /home
[07:39] <starn> finnigan: that sounds like a regedit issue.. i'd defiently go to where ever these lovely people said the winehq channel is and ask for help there.
[07:40] <Gallomimia> world writable /home dir :) brutal
[07:40] <finnigan> i did and the channel seems a little dead right now
[07:40] <thoonai> Gallomimia: it would be super destructive ...
[07:40] <Gallomimia> probably they're all busy playing games on wine
[07:40] <finnigan> lol
[07:40] <Gallomimia> oh. no it wouldn't cause you can't delete non-empty dirs
[07:41] <starn> finnigan: haha Gallomimia  is probably right XD or maybe they're playing on native steam client now.
[07:41] <Trion> Why do you use Linux for gaming?
[07:41] <Gallomimia> so you'd need permissions to delete all the folders and files inside it first
[07:41] <thoonai> so starn sorry, if I wouldnt have to chew on my own pity problem I would help you
[07:41] <Gallomimia> Trion:  the same reasons you use linux for everything else.
[07:41] <thoonai> Gallomimia: you're right
[07:41] <starn> Trion: high frame rates and better speed on linux and opengl vs windows on directx
[07:42] <finnigan> trion im on a netbook and just want to play crappy old games on it
[07:42] <finnigan> ive been playing axis and allies on it
[07:42] <thoonai> but now I want to allow users to share a directory with other users
[07:42] <Gallomimia> i found openttd on my computer a few days ago. so addicted!
[07:42] <Trion> *: Ok. Is it question opengl vs DirectX
[07:42] <Gallomimia> thoonai: let's say user1 wants to share dir /home/user1/share
[07:43] <Gallomimia> /home/user1 needs to have 771 permissions at least
[07:43] <Trion> Is Wine legal component?
[07:43] <KI7MT> Am I in the right channel or did I jump into a gaming channel by accident ?
[07:44] <Gallomimia> yep. they're talking about the new and up and coming concept of actual gaming on linux and ubuntu
[07:44] <starn> Trion: which in turns allows somewhat older machines run some of the newer machines they could not before..  it's mostly due to the fact linux uses less resources than windows. which allows the os to allow the games to use more power... and Trion i'm not sure just figured you was asking why people would play games on linux vs windows or console?  right now
[07:44] <starn> i'm busy trying to figure out this whole linux network bridge.  and from what i know wine is a grey area?
[07:44] <thoonai> KI7MT: what do you want? If you want pot, you should go to #kitchen
[07:44] <Gallomimia> Trion yes wine is allowed
[07:44] <Gallomimia> tho i think there's some grey area around newer directX runtimes
[07:44] <KI7MT> thoonai, I have plenty of pot right here on my desk, what I was looking for was ubuntu support
[07:44] <thoonai> KI7MT: sorry lame joke
[07:45] <Gallomimia> hah.
[07:45] <Gallomimia> funny cause we keep our pot in the kitchen
[07:45] <thoonai> Gallomimia: O.o?
[07:45] <thoonai> details I never wanted to know ... ;)
[07:45] <Gallomimia> yep. bongs in the fridge man. it's better cold :D
[07:45] <thoonai> wot?
[07:46] <starn> anyways it's been so long since i've been on freenode, where's the general chat channels for xubuntu and ubuntu?
[07:46] <Gallomimia> !ot | starn
[07:46] <thoonai> Gallomimia: 761 feels better, but I'l just try it with 771
[07:46] <Gallomimia> honestly the middle permission is irrelevant. since you have the group set to the group which contains just the owner
[07:46] <starn> thanks Gallomimia, i'm just going to assume off topic is xubuntu-offtopic as well.
[07:47] <Gallomimia> i know so little about xubuntu it's not funny :(
[07:47] <Gallomimia> don't even know where their chat channels are :/
[07:48] <Trion> I'm afraid to use Wine, because soft of windows can injure my home directory or it cannot?
[07:48] <Gallomimia> also, a directory which has permissions for read and/or write but not execute, is worthless. you can't read or write without the execute permission
[07:49] <Ben64> Trion: don't install any viruses
[07:49] <Gallomimia> Trion: that's a very good point. i'd better look into that
[07:49] <oli_the_obliviou> i need some help
[07:49] <Gallomimia> you might consider running a separate user for games/wine
[07:49] <Gallomimia> !ask | oli_the_obliviou
[07:49] <oli_the_obliviou> ok, where can i get hand crafted bongs
[07:49] <Gallomimia> i freakin like this autobot.
[07:50] <Gallomimia> !ot | oli_the_obliviou
[07:50] <Trion> When I use wine+soft, this component can operate with files from my personal directory  /home/mybase
[07:50] <KI7MT> oli_the_obliviou, Treader Tom's
[07:50] <KI7MT> Trader
[07:50] <oli_the_obliviou> thank you verymuch KI7MT , 73 to you
[07:50] <Gallomimia> again. super funny cause we name our favorite bong "oblivion" great name
 Nice Idia!!!!
[07:51] <Ben64> Gallomimia, KI7MT: please stop referencing that kind of stuff, its off topic and against the !guidelines
[07:51] <oli_the_obliviou> KI7MT, unfortunately i forgot my callsign
[07:51] <Trion> Gallomimia. I'll separate it
[07:51] <Gallomimia> make sure that user isn't in sudoers :D
[07:51] <Ben64> Trion: that really isn't necessary unless you plan on running malware
[07:52] <Gallomimia> all windows software is malware :(
[07:52] <Ben64> not true
[07:52] <Gallomimia> windows is malware
[07:52] <Ben64> no, it is not
[07:52] <Gallomimia> directX is very very mal ware :(
[07:52] <KI7MT> that's against the rules too Bashing Windows
[07:52] <Ben64> stop with the off topic, sheesh
[07:54] <Gallomimia> nevyn can you give me the steps on that raid-work again? i need to write this down and read all about it
 I don't care about OS, because it's my home PC and I can reinstall OS Ubuntu. However my personal dates are important for me
[07:56] <Trion> Sorry. I'm new in IRC chatting. Where can I see current topic?
[07:57] <Ben64> Trion: type /topic
[07:57] <thoonai> Trion: depends on your client
[07:57] <Trion> I use XChat
[07:57] <oli_the_obliviou> i am chanting
[07:57] <thoonai> Trion: the real hackers use netcat ;)
[07:58] <oli_the_obliviou> real hackers use telnet
[07:58] <thoonai> oli_the_obliviou: nope
[07:58] <thoonai> oli_the_obliviou: socat
[07:58] <KI7MT> Trion, topic it's right at the top of the screen then
[07:58] <oli_the_obliviou> i use telnet for decades
[08:00] <Trion> ok. I have got new MF Canon 3010 (printer+scaner), but scaner dosen't work in Ubuntu 12.10, 13.04, 12.10 and work in Fedora 19. Why???? I talking about xsane
[08:01] <Trion> May you adjust it there?
[08:01] <thoonai> Gallomimia: 775? o.O
[08:01] <oli_the_obliviou> ya
[08:01] <thoonai> Gallomimia: why?
[08:02] <KI7MT> Trion, I dont know specifically, but you may want to consider 13.10 .. see bad new with this:  ubuntu-support-status
[08:02] <KI7MT> probably need: sudo ubuntu-support-status
 should get me in the sudoers lis ...
[08:03] <Trion> I don'y know, I try to adjust it in Ubuntu and waste a lot of time. After I installed new OS Fedora and it's working there as default )
[08:04] <KI7MT> Trion, sri not use Fedora since like Core4 or something way back when.
[08:04] <oli_the_obliviou> corei4 you are from the future?
[08:04] <KI7MT> Yeah why
[08:05] <oli_the_obliviou> because core i4 is the new brand of the 4 core corei3
[08:05] <somsip> oli_the_obliviou: do you have a support question?
[08:05] <KI7MT> Now oli_the_obliviou Fedora-Core4 .. not Intel Core-4
[08:05] <Trion> It's  no matter, because  scaner works with sane + xsane drivers in Linux
[08:05] <oli_the_obliviou> ah i ganjapologize, maybe i forgot that
[08:06] <KI7MT> Trion, In any case., back to the issue, 12.10 .. you may want to try 13.10 12.10 is about EOL
[08:06] <oli_the_obliviou> i don't believe to no tooth fairies
[08:06] <somsip> !ot | oli_the_obliviou
[08:07] <oli_the_obliviou> sorry i forgot i'm in ubuntu
[08:07] <oli_the_obliviou> i supposed it's #darwin
[08:07] <Hola> If I install ubuntu using an external disk drive will i have to keep it plugged it when I use my computer every time or no
[08:08] <oli_the_obliviou> why a computer boots without having any feets?
[08:08] <KI7MT> Hola, no
[08:09] <Hola> Thank you KI7MT, you are a life saver
[08:09] <Hola> :)
[08:09] <Beldar> Hola, No disc or usb to install with?
[08:09] <KI7MT> Hola, no me, Ubuntu is ;-)
[08:09] <oli_the_obliviou> KI7MT, are you on 20m?
[08:09] <KI7MT> Not right now
[08:09] <KI7MT> 80m
[08:09] <Hola> No i have the disk Beldar
[08:10] <Hola> and yes ubuntu is KI7MT
[08:10] <KI7MT> Hola, I install lots of servers that way, no need fer CD unless ya just want one
[08:10] <Hola> thank you guys so much :)
[08:10] <thoonai> cool, I've no license :*(
[08:10] <Hola> bye
[08:10] <oli_the_obliviou> do you know KC5SUX?
[08:10] <KI7MT> No
[08:10] <somsip> !ops | oli_the_obliviou (continued offtopic)
[08:10] <thoonai> KI7MT: with an ext HDD o.O
[08:11] <KI7MT> thoonai, Sure, and USB keys too.
[08:11] <KI7MT> thoonai, USB CD drive, or any portable media works fine.
[08:11] <maxxsire> I got the processes list that was edited from guest and regular account similarities posted at paste.ubuntu.com to have you guys look at the nasties. Thanks to you all!
[08:11] <somsip> maxxsire: and the URL is...?
[08:12] <thoonai> KI7MT: USB Key
[08:12] <maxxsire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6754961/
[08:12] <KI7MT> thoonai, Yup .. works fine, little slow on install, but no problem.
[08:13] <Ben64> maxxsire: whats the problem you are having?
[08:13] <maxxsire> My bad thought you could look it by my name
[08:13] <somsip> maxxsire: this is only for one user? You need to find the differences so you can see what extra processes are running on the real user. I still don't understand why you're doing all this though...
[08:13] <thoonai> if I habe an tun0 device and a vboxnet0 device, so I just can bridge em?
[08:14] <maxxsire> I already deleted the similar processes... but I'll post both on another if you like
[08:16] <somsip> maxxsire: ok. I expected that /sbin/init (PID 1) would be present on both users and so would not show on a list of differences. You have some processes I didn't expect to see, like 2023 to 2062 which show no name. And others the same. Not sure about that at all...
[08:17] <maxxsire> After having my browser up for about 20 minutes I can barely do anything within it, real sluggish--it takes forever to do anything--. Then with in about 5 to 10  minutes browser crashes and I need to restart my computer to have anything work within browser.
[08:18] <Ben64> maxxsire: what version of ubuntu? what browser? what browser version?
[08:18] <somsip> maxxsire: start the browser from a terminal and check for error output when it crashes. Or see if it dumps an error log somewhere when it does crash
[08:18] <Gallomimia> thoonai: sorry i was afk. you're asking why 775??
[08:19] <Jeffry> \wow Lucid Lynx is still supported?
[08:19] <somsip> !10.04 | Jeffry
[08:19] <thoonai> Gallomimia: yes, but now I've to get myself afk for some seconds too
[08:19] <maxxsire> It's been happening for about a month and is getting worse all the time. Ubuntu has worked fine for over a year and half before this with no complications. Could have 40 plus tabs opened up, for days, and would work completely fine. with
[08:20] <Jeffry> WOW THATS COOL!
[08:20] <Gallomimia> maxxsire: it's not the best solution for you, but you might consider a full clean reinstall of ubuntu, after backing up your important data
[08:20] <Jeffry> caps was hit opps
[08:21] <Gallomimia> server LTS is 5 years right? and 3 for desktop?
[08:21] <Gallomimia> i can't remember :(
[08:21] <pao> maxxsire: what browser chrome/firefox/opera/chromium?
[08:21] <Ben64> LTS starting with 12.04 is 5 years for both desktop and servers
[08:21] <Gallomimia> pao he said lots of them
[08:22] <Gallomimia> i suspect webkit has gotten fubar'd somehow
[08:23] <maxxsire> Ubuntu 12.04 (precise),  browser can be any of the ones I use--Firefox--Chrome--Konqueror,
[08:24] <somsip> maxxsire: check /var/log/syslog for errors
[08:25] <somsip> maxxsire: do you use the computer for anything else or just browsing? If browsers aren't running, do things still crash?
[08:25] <somsip> !memtest | maxxsire
[08:26] <Danato> hey I messed up my lightdm.conf file and I needed to boot without gui, I already logged in with cli only but it wont let me edit any file. everything is read onnly, what do i do?
[08:26] <somsip> !testing | maxxsire
[08:26] <Ben64> Danato: what did you do to it, and how did you log in to cli only?
[08:28] <Danato> Ben64, on greeter session I typed light-gtk-greeter, when i meant to write ubuntu.desktop
[08:29] <Ben64> Danato: ok, so how did you get to command line
[08:29] <Guest17558> Hi. I was wandering how can I start ssh server at boot. After installing open ssh server there is nothing beside ssh in init.d so I run update-rc defaults, but not much happened - only kill scripts in rc.d's appeared.
[08:29] <Danato> Ben64, and i booted on advanced options, recovery mode, drop to root shell prompt
[08:30] <Danato> is that the wrong way?
[08:30] <somsip> !text | Danato
[08:30] <Ben64> Danato: ok then run this to enable writing to the partition, and be careful :) "mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /"
[08:30] <somsip> Danato: you're in recovery mode, which is more restrictive
[08:30] <TomyWork> i want to get rid of a broken postrm script of a package that is half-installed. where can i find it?
[08:31] <Flannel> Guest17558: After installing openssh-server, it starts at boot by default.
[08:31] <somsip> Guest17558: is the service running? My experience of sshd is it automatically starts up on boot afte rinstall
[08:32] <pao> Guest17558: Check netstat -tap if ssh is present?
[08:34] <leichtgewicht> Hello guys! I am trying to setup a initctl service and so far it seems to work. Except that it doesn't seem to have the necessary binary in the path.
[08:34] <leichtgewicht> The script requires "forever": a system that is installed using nodejs's npm.
[08:35] <somsip> leichtgewicht: forever is a binary?
[08:35] <somsip> leichtgewicht: or executable?
[08:35] <leichtgewicht> somsip: check.
[08:35] <Guest17558> Flannel, somsip pao, greping through ps -ef, checking netstat, verifying service --status-all doesn't return anything indicating that sshd is working
[08:36] <leichtgewicht> somsip: its a script
[08:36] <leichtgewicht> (executable)
[08:36] <somsip> Guest17558: try sudo service sshd restart (or stop, then start)
[08:36] <somsip> leichtgewicht: and you want this on path? Create a symlink from somewhere in path to it.
[08:37] <Ben64> somsip, Guest17558: the service is called "ssh" not sshd
[08:37] <somsip> Ben64: ta
[08:37] <leichtgewicht> somsip: It is in my path.
[08:38] <somsip> leichtgewicht: does initctl use your PATH or the system PATH...?
[08:38] <leichtgewicht> But during the execution of /etc/init/ conf it misses.
[08:39] <pao> leichtgewicht: check foreman it will automatically create an upstart or initctl for you...
[08:39] <leichtgewicht> pao: foreman?
[08:40] <pao> leichtgewicht: http://blog.daviddollar.org/2011/05/06/introducing-foreman.html
[08:40] <Guest17558> somsip, Ben64, running /ssh restart didn't even returned any output, server still unusable .
[08:41] <somsip> Guest17558: is it correctly installed? Is there anything in the error log?
[08:42] <leichtgewicht> pao: (sweat)
[08:43] <Guest17558> somsip, where can I find the error log?
[08:44] <helmut_> hi
[08:44] <KI7MT> I missed the first part of this, does he have openssh-server installed?
[08:45] <Ben64> KI7MT: supposedly
[08:45] <Guest17558> KI7MT, Yes, I do have.
[08:46] <somsip> Guest17558: and you've done 'sudo service ssh restart' and there was *no* output?
[08:46] <Oog> i just setup static networking sot then I removed dhcp as recommended sudo aptitude remove isc-dhcp-client dhcp3-client dhcpcd
[08:47] <Oog> then when i did tab to auto complete i would get "initctl: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory"
[08:47] <leichtgewicht> pao: I am sorry: But I feel it overkill to learn a new system when all i need is to understand how the path resolution during startup works.
[08:47] <Oog> so i rebooted and now i dont get the error but tab completing "sudo start sm" doesn't work
[08:47] <somsip> leichtgewicht: so where is 'forever' located?
[08:48] <leichtgewicht> somsip: /opt/bitnami/nodejs/bin/forever
[08:48] <leichtgewicht> (bitnami ec2 instance)
[08:48] <KI7MT> Guest17558, any output form this: sudo ss -lnp |grep sshd
[08:48] <somsip> leichtgewicht: which is not in the system PATH so it won't find it unless you add a link to it from somewhere that is in the system path
[08:49] <vvinothkumar> Is there any way to force ppp interface name using through wvdial or some other mean?
[08:49] <maxxsire> I think I might have to go with a reinstall because I opened up browser within terminal to see what kind of outputs it would throw when the browser crashed but this time my whole computer froze... the first time that's happened...
[08:49] <leichtgewicht> somsip: It is in the path for both root and bitnami user (shell).
[08:51] <somsip> leichtgewicht: unexpected. Maybe put the full path to /opt/binamai/.../forever in the startup script then?
[08:53] <somsip> leichtgewicht: does forever expect node.js to be in path too?
[08:53] <leichtgewicht> somsip: I assume.
[08:54] <somsip> maxxsire: anything in /var/log/syslog?
[08:54] <leichtgewicht> somsip: I assume yes.
[08:54] <pao> leichtgewicht: if your talking about ruby as new on your system you could use the foreman on heroku toolbelt https://toolbelt.heroku.com/debian so you would not install ruby anymore
[08:55] <maxxsire> I didn't open up a channel directly to you. I shouldn't /msg anyone then? I'll check
[08:55] <pao> leichtgewicht: also node.js has a port of foreman https://github.com/NodeFly/node-foreman
[08:55] <Sven_vB> does anyone know a package or PPA for FontAwesome to be installed as a local font?
[08:55] <Guest17558> somsip, I was reffering to #/etc/init.d/ssh restart, service restart returns: stop:Unknown instance: ssh start/pre-start, process 2255
[08:56] <somsip> maxxsire: you can message who you want. It's up to them if they want to chat on PM or not
[08:56] <Guest17558> KI7MT, no, not at all.
[08:56] <darius93> any reason why "linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic" are held back when doing apt-get upgrade?
[08:56] <Viking667> I've got a realy weird problem... I've got a completely grey screen on startup. What the heck do I do?
[08:56] <leichtgewicht> pao: Thanks will look into it when it is more quiet.
[08:56] <Beldar> darius93, run dist-upgrade
[08:57] <somsip> Guest17558: what version of ubuntu is this? You should be using service, not calling the /etc/init.d scripts direct. But try just 'start' if 'restart' fails. As suggested before
[08:57] <darius93> Beldar: may i ask why run dist-upgrade?
[08:57] <thoonai> Gallomimia: re
[08:57] <KI7MT> Guest17558, Ok well that mean, it's definately not listening on any ports. I would first try to re-install the package: sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server  .. then we cna go from there.
[08:57] <somsip> darius93: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:58] <Beldar> darius93, kernels are held in apt-get unless you run it
[08:58] <mjayk> darius93: run that because that error means the kernels are out of data because your version is to old
[08:58] <darius93> ah ok. Is it safe to use the latest kernel?
[08:58] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, when you say it's in "your" path, do you mean your terminal or the environment inside your init script?
[08:58] <thoonai> Gallomimia: just spoke with my admin, there will be an /home/shared/$USER folder for every $USER in the system
[08:58] <mjayk> darius93: what version are you using ?
[08:58] <Beldar> mjayk, not correct
[08:58] <havayesard> help , please help me hoe skip facebook phone number?
[08:58] <mjayk> Beldar: ah sorry
[08:58] <darius93> 3.11.0-12
[08:59] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: terminal. Not sure how to get it into my init script ...
[08:59] <Oog> im losing my imind it magically started working
[08:59] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, add to your init script: env | LANG=C sort >/tmp/init-script.env
[08:59] <Oog> maybe start it once then it gets cached... my best guess
[08:59] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, then look at that file
[08:59] <darius93> mjayk: 3.11.0-12
[09:00] <mjayk> darius93: your better speaking to Beldar I was wrong :)
[09:00] <maxxsire> for some reason I get permission denied when I input /var/log/syslog ... I thought when you /msg someone it wasn't PM but that it just let the person know within channel that you specifically talking to them, sorry.
[09:00] <havayesard> which room help me for facebook?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> havayesard, www.facebook.com
[09:00] <Guest17558> somsip, stop returns 'stop; unknown instance'. Version is 13.10 server edition. , KI7MT will try that out.
[09:01] <thoonai> Gallomimia: so because 775 is very intrusive to people having folders in /home and others being allowed to list all content
[09:01] <darius93> lol well i just want to make sure its safe. I remember when i was on kubuntu and i upgraded the kernel it broke the whole system to where i had to use the old kernel
[09:01] <thoonai> Gallomimia: thanks ;)
[09:02] <Beldar> darius93, This wiki explains, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[09:05] <darius93> Beldar: Im mainly am asking now if its safe? Would  I need to reinstall my gpu drivers, etc?
[09:06] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: The path is missing.
[09:06] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, make your init script set it up.
[09:06] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: How can I add paths to those variables ?
[09:06] <maxxsire> for some reason I get permission denied when I input /var/log/syslog ... I thought when you /msg someone it wasn't PM but that it just let the person know within channel that you specifically talking to them, sorry.
[09:06] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, pastebin your init script
[09:07] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: The init script is just a exec command ...
[09:07] <maxxsire> somsip should I just reinstall if that's the case
[09:07] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, no #!... in the first line?
[09:07] <somsip> maxxsire: you need to view the file. I believe there is a log viewer somewhere, or you can 'less /var/log/syslog' in a terminal and scroll with [space], b, and search with /
[09:08] <Beldar> darius93, Where are the drivers from?
[09:08] <darius93> AMD. I installed them from Additional Drivers
[09:08] <Beldar> darius93, Probably not.
[09:09] <maxxsire> what am I looking for? It's a long list
[09:09] <darius93> hmm ok. Imma give it a try and hope it doesnt break anything like it did before >.<
[09:09] <somsip> maxxsire: errors (/error)
[09:11] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: http://pastebin.com/NcVadEaP
[09:12] <maxxsire> should I put them in pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[09:12] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, in start.sh add a line after DIR= and there set PATH+=':/your/path'
[09:12] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, mind the : after +=
[09:13] <somsip> maxxsire: if you find errors, sure. Try not to paste the whole thing though
[09:13] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: The start.sh is not-installation specific and is used during development as well.
[09:13] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, and after that, add: export PATH
[09:13] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: I will try it using a wrapper script
[09:15] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, hm... then you'll have to investigate the init script commands further, or redirect the "exec sh" through env. or change the exec to ... yes, you should change that, because your start.sh expects bash. so change it to exec bash 'PATH+=:/your/path; export PATH; exec /home/bitnami/myapp/tools/start.sh'
[09:16] <maxxsire> somsip here's the Pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6755199/
[09:17] <somsip> maxxsire: nah - that's nothing to worry about. Strange. I did expect to see something in there. I'm wondering about memory errors, but you didn't answer if other things crash if you leave it running for a long time
[09:17] <jjavaholic> can't watch two instanteous flash videos anymore what should I look for?
[09:17] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, maybe a cleaner solution would be to make bash source the entire profile, then your service's view would stay in sync with your terminals.
[09:17] <nevyn> jjavaholic: did you turn off pulseaudio?
[09:18] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: The last sentence is hard to decipher for me.
[09:18] <jjavaholic> nope
[09:18] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: "make bash source the entire profile"?
[09:18] <apb1963> How would I add this repo?  https://launchpad.net/~shahar-evron/+archive/qt-backports/+packages   Is it just apt-add-repository ppa:~shahar-evron/+archive/qt-backports/+packages  ??
[09:19] <maxxsire> usually within 10 minutes of the browser going sluggish, about 35 minutes of starting the browser, the browser crashes
[09:20] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, "source" is the bash command with that name, profile is the user's profile, usually consisting of /etc/profile and ~/.profile
[09:20] <VlanY> if I wanted to print the current time with echo ....... in the terminal, what should I write?
[09:21] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, those are the places where the default environment is set up
[09:21] <somsip> VlanY: 'date'
[09:22] <Sven_vB> VlanY, echo usually doesn't support it. try the date program.
[09:22] <maxxsire> somsip the last time instead of the browser crashing my whole computer just froze, the first time that's happened. Like I said it's happening faster all the time, being sluggish and crashing, and freezong the whole computer means it's definitly getting worse.
[09:23] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: I think I would like to do that :) Neither etc/profile nor /home/bitnami/.profile modify the path
[09:23] <somsip> maxxsire: I read that before and it still doesn't answer my question. Does it crash if you don't run browsers?
[09:24] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, /etc/profile should have a reference to profile.d, and in there should be the path setup
[09:24] <VlanY> Sven_vB: thanks man
[09:24] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, setup with the least impact, so if only one user needs that path, add it to that user's profile only.
[09:25] <maxxsire> about a month ago the browser would crash over an hour out and now it's at the 35 minute range. It's does not happen if I don't run a browser as far as I can tell.
[09:25] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: You do not happen to know which user is used during upstart?
[09:25] <pdizzle_> I have two instances of gtkpod which won't listen to any variation of kill. What's the next size larger hammer?
[09:25] <somsip> VlanY: man date, to get how to format it, eg: date '+%H:%m'
[09:26] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, i have no idea, but your environment dump should have it as "LOGUSER=..."
[09:26] <leichtgewicht> !
[09:26] <VlanY> somsip: date >> file.txt is ok for me
[09:26] <VlanY> thanks guys
[09:27] <leichtgewicht> It should but it doesnt :(
[09:27] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, any other line with USER=?
[09:27] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, oh right, the log var would have been LOGNAME
[09:27] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: no: http://pastebin.com/pHCAPt2m
[09:28] <Sven_vB> ok that's really minimal. dump the output of "whoami" then.
[09:29] <Sven_vB> you should probably set up $HOME before loading the profile.
[09:30] <maxxsire> somsip  about a month ago the browser would crash over an hour out and now it's at the 35 minute range. It's does not happen if I don't run a browser as far as I can tell.
[09:31] <Devil> hi
[09:31] <nevyn> Gallomimia: hi back.. (needed to leave work as it was 6:30 o so.
[09:34] <sgo11> Hi, when I use ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to first terminal, it shows root terminal logged in. how to disable this? this is very unsecure. thanks.
[09:34] <k1l_> sgo11: this is not the standard. which ubuntu are you on?
[09:35] <sgo11> k1l_, right, it's not standard. I am using ubuntu arm. but to change this behavior, it should be same to x86. thanks.
[09:35] <maxxsire> somsip it only happen if I'm in a browser
[09:35] <k1l_> sgo11: well, that depends on the settings the arm-build you use is set up
[09:36] <sgo11> k1l_, do you know how to fix this problem? thanks.
[09:36] <Seveas> sgo11: check /etc/init/tty1.conf
[09:36] <maxxsire> somsip can I get some help please I really need to get to bed soon. I know I'm a pansy.
[09:37] <Seveas> sgo11: it should end with exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
[09:37] <Seveas> and not exec login root (or something like that)
[09:37] <sgo11> Seveas, yeah, it is exactly that line.
[09:37] <sgo11> exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
[09:38] <Seveas> then it shouldn't show root logged in - are you sure you didn't log in before? What happens if you log out?
[09:38] <k1l_> sgo11: this is a common issue on pandaboard images: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935251
[09:39] <knightshade> hi
[09:40] <sgo11> k1l_, I read it. yeah, it's linaro ubuntu. I still don't understand how to fix it. maybe I should google linaro auto login issue.
[09:42] <sgo11> k1l_, Seveas thanks a lot for the help. I think I found the howto. I will try it. thanks.
[09:44] <BryanWB> for some reason , i can't get skype to launch at all on 13.10, and i have followed the tutorials online
[09:45] <BryanWB> i am able to install it, but after launching nothing happens. anyone else seen this?
[09:45] <somsip> maxxsire: I'm afk, so you'll have to get helkp from elsewhere. You may need to reinstall, but you should be able to find something in logs somewhere that will tell you why you are having this problem. Good luck
[09:46] <maxxsire> Thanks for your time
[09:48] <thoonai> how do I save stuff in a file named in $name?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> BryanWB, launch it from terminal.  report the error messages
[09:48] <thoonai> als cat stuff > $name?
[09:48] <thoonai> =l
[09:48] <thoonai> -l
[09:48] <BryanWB> cfhowlett, yeah, been trying that, but no error output on terminal nore a verbose option
[09:48] <BryanWB> guess i will try strace next
[09:49] <sgo11> k1l_, Seveas, just FYI, the problem is fixed. thanks a lot.
[09:50] <BryanWB> ah, it can't access the system clock according to strace
[09:50] <thoonai> when I try to save stuff in $name it answers mre with "ambigous redirect"
[09:50] <Seveas> sgo11: how did you fix it?
[09:51] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, found the user?
[09:51] <thoonai> I have an problem with bash
[09:51] <leichtgewicht> nah: my init.conf is broken to the point that initctl doesn't react anymore.
[09:52] <leichtgewicht> .oO(very frustrating)
[09:52] <sgo11> Seveas, two steps. (1) in /etc/init, mv -i openvt.conf openvt.conf.noboot (2) edit `/etc/default/autogetty`, make  'ENABLED=0'
[09:52] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, then better go back to the original exec and make a wrapper script
[09:52] <Guest17558> KI7MT, re-installed, still nothing. Any ideas what else can be checked / done?
[09:52] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: It seems whatever I do has no effect.
[09:52] <thoonai> SAVENAME= readlink -f $dir | sed -e 's/\//./g' doesnt work as expected
[09:53] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: Seems like "making a script run at startup" is not something to learn in 5 min :p
[09:53] <sap> morning
[09:54] <Anonissimus> is there an easy way to monitor a folder for symlinks and chown the link and where it points to on being created?
[09:54] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, i like @reboot in my crontab, it's quite easy
[09:54] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: I tried that ... didn't work...
[09:54] <leichtgewicht> (I assume because there as well was the exec missing in the PATH)
[09:54] <thoonai> leichtgewicht: rc.local?
[09:54] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, had the cron-started script set up the environment?
[09:56] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: can i run the cron script as a user?
[09:56] <thoonai> how do I script bash, that readlink [..] is stored in a var and that thsi var is used for saving a file?
[09:57] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, sure. best run it as the user in whose crontab you would want to launch it from.
[09:57] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: Okay: trying my luck
[09:57] <Sven_vB> thoonai, local MYVAR="$(readlink -m "$0"/..)"
[09:57] <thoonai> Sven_vB: local?
[09:58] <thoonai> Sven_vB: like local in scheme?
[09:58] <thoonai> o.O
[09:58] <Sven_vB> thoonai, more like local in "man bash"
[09:58] <yeyeman> how do I get a menu for 'find all and replace' in geany?
[09:59] <thoonai> Sven_vB: what does local does?
[09:59] <Guest26870> Why is apt-get update holding back gnome-control-centre?
[09:59] <leichtgewicht> Is there a way to see if crontab works without rebooting?
[10:00] <thoonai> Sven_vB: ah ok
[10:00] <thoonai> Sven_vB: I want the output of readlink to be in this var ...
[10:01] <Sven_vB> leichtgewicht, not for the @reboot rule i guess. maybe by restarting the cron daemon
[10:01] <thoonai> doesnt the " " mark it as a steing/
[10:01] <k1l_> Guest26870: try apt-get dist-upgrade for holding back packages
[10:01] <Sven_vB> thoonai, no, the var is always a string if no option is given to local. the quotes just defuse some shell control chars.
[10:03] <thoonai> echo $var casts "(readlink -f blub/ | sed -e 's/\//./g')
[10:03] <thoonai> on the terminal
[10:03] <thoonai> not the modified path ... :/ ?
[10:04] <Sven_vB> you probably missed the $ of $(...)
[10:05] <Sven_vB> also your sed invocation seems overly complicated. what are you trying to do?
[10:06] <thoonai> Sven_vB: to substitute all "/" in the path to not get a mess when using the path to a dir as a filename for the acl-backup
[10:07] <sgo11> how to check my current cpu frequency in command line? thanks.
[10:07] <Sven_vB> sed -re 's~/~.~g' to avoid the \, or just: tr / .
[10:07] <Ben64> sgo11: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i hz
[10:08] <thoonai> Sven_vB: oh the command works quite fine as it is ;)
[10:09] <thoonai> Ben64: should I be worried if (readlink -f blub/ | sed -e 's/\//./g')
[10:09] <sgo11> Ben64, thanks. but I am using arm based ubuntu. it does not have any output .
[10:09] <k1l_> !arm | sgo11
[10:09] <thoonai> Ben64: sorry, wrong paste
[10:10] <sgo11> k1l_, thanks. that channel is not very active like here. I will try there. thanks.
[10:10] <thoonai> Ben64: "cpu MHz: 800" if it is an core i5 with 2.3GHz rating?
[10:12] <k1l_> sgo11: you are not even on that arm channel. and like you already know it doesnt help if you receive x86 specific suggestions all the time
[10:13] <sgo11> k1l_, I found how. it should be the same to x86. "sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq". I tried in both arm and x86. both work.
[10:14] <thoonai> Sven_vB: I get an ambigous redirect if I want to pipe the output of getfacl with ">" into $SAVENAME
[10:16] <Sven_vB> thoonai, put a space before the > and "" around $SAVENAME
[10:17] <Ben64> thoonai: the frequency doesn't need to be maxed when its not in use
[10:18] <Ben64> sgo11: take the bogomips and divide by 2?
[10:20] <ndamba> Hi
[10:21] <sgo11> Ben64, sorry, I am a newbie, I don't understand that sentence.
[10:23] <k1l_> !rootirc > root____
[10:23] <Ben64> sgo11: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:24] <Ben64> sgo11: the bogomips is usually mhz*2, not sure about on arm though
[10:25] <sgo11> Ben64, BogoMIPS	: 1819.52 . two processors with the same value.
[10:26] <Ben64> sgo11: so i'd have to guess dual core 900mhz
[10:28] <sgo11> Ben64, I even forgot. let me check the spec.
[10:29] <thoonai> Ben64: ah ok, the machine quite feels a bit slower nowadays
[10:30] <thoonai> Ben64: eventually the fan is blocked by dust and the cpu throttles down due to over temperature
[10:31] <thoonai> Sven_vB: getfacl -R $dir > "$DASP/$SAVENAME" => just works fine, thanks :)
[10:32] <sgo11> this is very weird. the spec dose not mention the cpu freq.
[10:39] <Guest77267> hello
[10:39] <ndamba> hi
[10:40] <wall0p> hello,i have a problem with g++,g++: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-Wl’
[10:41] <cfhowlett> wall0p, #g++ channel?
[10:41] <sgo11> Ben64, I found one place mentioned the CPU is 1.2GHz. Not sure if that is true or not.
[10:41] <leichtgewicht> Sven_vB: Thanks for you effort: I solved it with the help of this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10129381/crontab-path-and-user
[10:42] <wall0p> cfhowlett, thank you
[10:43] <ndamba> hi
[10:45] <cfhowlett> ndamba, greetings
[10:48] <ws2k3> hello, is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 10.10 to 1204 tls ?
[10:48] <Guest79470> السلام عليكم
[10:48] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, desktop or server?
[10:48] <ws2k3> server
[10:49] <yanick> hi, I'm trying to install a plugin for GIMP (Felimage) and the ./configure script complains about not meeting the package requirements : gimp-2.0 >= 2.2.0 gimpui-2.0 >= 2.2.0
[10:49] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, not directly.
[10:49] <yanick> can someone help me with this?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, 10.10  > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[10:49] <ws2k3> i noticed that do-release-upgrade does not work anymore
[10:49] <ws2k3> cfhowlett yes but how
[10:50] <ws2k3> because i cant download the natty.tgz anymore
[10:50] <ikonia> yanick: your version does not meet the package requiremens for the plugin
[10:50] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, yep.  that's what happens if you skip one release.  Also why I only do LTS.  that way you can go LTS to LTS.
[10:50] <ws2k3> yes i know :P
[10:50] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, in your case: torrent the 12.04 and clean install
[10:50] <yanick> ikonia, I have GIMP 2.6 installed
[10:50] <ws2k3> well thats not realy an option
[10:50] <ws2k3> i have to find a way to upgrade this machine
[10:50] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, why not?
[10:50]  * cfhowlett is curious
[10:51] <yanick> ikonia, take that back, I have 2.8 installed
[10:51] <ws2k3> because this machine is so complex it will take me a couple of weeks to redo everything
[10:51] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, ah.  option b:
[10:51] <ikonia> yanick: doesn't look like it
[10:51] <DJones> !eolupgrade | ws2k3 This may help, but as cfhowlett suggested, the most reliable method will to to fresh install, going through so many upgrades could well cause breakage issues
[10:51] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, clean install 10.04 (LTS) upgrade to 12.04
[10:52] <yanick> ikonia, I launch GIMP and it says 2.8 :) my guess is that Felimage ./configure script cannot find GIMP
[10:52] <cfhowlett> DJones, thanks!
[10:52] <ws2k3> okay
[10:52] <ikonia> yanick: I doubt that
[10:52] <yanick> ikonia, hmmm.... ok.....
[10:53] <ikonia> I'd look at how it's checking, eg: pkg-config,
[10:53] <jjttee> is there a way to password-protect an archive WITHOUT compression? Because I have big folders that I want to keep private.
[10:53] <gordonjcp> jjttee: don't give people your password then
[10:54] <jjttee> gordonjcp: you misunderstood
[10:54] <Myrtti> jjttee: an archive? tar without compression?
[10:54] <ws2k3> it sucks so hard ubuntu just trows old releases offline
[10:54] <Myrtti> then gpg it or something.
[10:54] <jjttee> Myrtti: but TAR doesn't give an option for a password to be set
[10:54] <Myrtti> jjttee: yes, use gpg or something for the encryption.
[10:55] <gordonjcp> jjttee: no, I didn't
[10:55] <Myrtti> mind you, I've never done it so I can't help you with it
[10:55] <yanick> ikonia, I don't understand how I can prove to you that I have, in fact, GIMP 2.8 installed
[10:55] <gordonjcp> jjttee: if you don't let people log is as you, they wont' have permission to read your files
[10:55] <ikonia> yanick: pastebint the full output of "./configure" please.
[10:56] <yanick> ikonia, k
[10:57] <DJones> ws2k3: They don't get taken completely offline, just moved to the oldreleases page the bot linked you to, if they didn't, people would keep using unsupported releases and would still want support etc
[10:58] <ndamba> I'm not skype in my  computer. I'm beginner... Can you help me?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, reminder: new 13.10 and beyond: 9 months support.  LTS is looking better and better.  and you didn't bother upgrading for 3 years so ... little sympathy
[10:58] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:58] <yanick> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/GduXa8Sv
[10:59] <yanick> ikonia, I'm looking at the script to find how it is checking for the package version
[10:59] <ikonia> yanick: what did I tell you
[10:59] <ikonia> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[11:00] <jjttee> I have an external HD . Half is  NTFS. The other is  EXT4. How come I can't create/paste into either partition?
[11:01] <jjttee> i used sudo gparted
[11:02] <yanick> ikonia, I have no idea how to get gimp's version out of pkg-config
[11:03] <yanick> ikonia, because "$ gimp --version" output "GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.8.10"
[11:04] <cfhowlett> jjttee, permissions?
[11:04] <Gallomimia> !linux
[11:05] <Gallomimia> damn. what version of kernel is currently in ubuntu 13.10?
[11:05] <jjttee> cfhowlett: hmmm.. i don't know. but i'm now reformatting with disk utility . and no partitions thins tmie
[11:05] <ikonia> yanick: I don't believe that's the problem
[11:05] <thoonai> how do I can interdict users to execute virtualbox?
[11:06] <ikonia> yanick: as the configure script shows - it's pkg-config
[11:06] <geirha> Gallomimia: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <Gallomimia> thoonai: you mean prevent it?
[11:06] <thoonai> I want the users only being able to execute VBoxSDL which is an plain viewer with no possibillities to change the Vbox setting
[11:06] <thoonai> +s
[11:07] <cfhowlett> thoonai, lock down vbox config files?
[11:07] <thoonai> Gallomimia: yup
[11:07] <Gallomimia> yeah. chown the config files and set permissions to r/o
[11:08] <Gallomimia> remember to make the folder they're in r/o also, or they can just delete the file and make their own
[11:09] <thoonai> how do I fix that they can execute vboxsdl?
[11:09] <Gallomimia> thanks geirha next question. any ideas on when kernel 3.12 will become standard? that's what i'm running and im eager to see it enter the support umbrula
[11:09] <cfhowlett> thoonai, this might be a question best asked in #vbox
[11:10] <geirha> Gallomimia: If 3.12 is the latest stable when the next ubuntu release goes into package freeze, then that's the version it will have
[11:10] <Gallomimia> ever get that directory permission sorted out thoonai ?
[11:10] <jatt> is there a way to find available network printers using the command-line?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !wo
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:11] <thoonai> cfhowlett: thx
[11:18] <ndamba> a URL for skype software...
[11:21] <bazhang> !info skype partner | ndamba
[11:21] <bazhang> !partner | ndamba
[11:21] <metacode> Hi! I want to download ubuntu 13.04 64bit iso for intel computer. I am at releases page but don't know which one to download
[11:21] <bazhang> enable the partner repo ndamba as linked above, then update and install skype
[11:22] <bazhang> metacode, amd64 is the one
[11:22] <cfhowlett> metacode, 32 bit will be safe.
[11:25] <ThePendulum> Greetings. I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity, and as of recently, Chrome creates a new icon on the Launcher when I open it. Is this a known issue, and is there a fix for it?
[11:26] <metacode> bazhang: amd64 for intel pc?
[11:26] <bazhang> metacode, correct
[11:26] <sarthor> HI, I have java installed on my machine, but my browsers can not see java, I am using chrome and firefox, my  machine says this java version "1.7.0_51"
[11:26] <sarthor> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_51-b13)
[11:26] <sarthor> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode)
[11:27] <metacode> bazhang: Thanks:)
[11:28] <master_op> hello, i'm using ubuntu 13.04, when i try to connect to many website, the connection take too much time without loading webpage (slowly internet), others laptop connected to the same network can connect normally to internet, when i make my android phone as a 3G shared wifi hotspot, i can connect normally from my pc
[11:38] <AxonetBE> how can I only update libraries without updating the OS/kernel
[11:38] <thoonai> nobody in #vbos is answering :
[11:38] <thoonai> :/
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> AxonetBE: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade            <--- upgrades everything except kernel
[11:40] <AxonetBE> hitsujiTMO: but then I get this The following packages have been kept back:   linux-image linux-image-generic
[11:40] <AxonetBE> so it fails
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> AxonetBE: thats not it failing, thats it not updating the kernel.
[11:40] <AxonetBE> ok
[11:41] <AxonetBE> this one are kept back : linux-image linux-image-generic mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5
[11:41] <AxonetBE> why mysql also?
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> AxonetBE: because you're using a PPA that has dependencies that have changed
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> AxonetBE: deps are not satisfiable.
[11:43] <AxonetBE> ActionParsnip:  don't understand, could you explain little bit more pls?
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> !dist-upgrade | AxonetBE this might explain it
[11:45] <hitsujiTMO> AxonetBE: the dependencies for the mysql packages have changed so its held back
[11:46] <sssilver> Guys, anyone here actually consciously considered and chose Ubuntu over Debian? Or you just went with Ubuntu because it's hip and popular and everyone else uses it too?
[11:47] <thoonai> sssilver: ##ubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <thoonai> sssilver: please keep space for those who seek support
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> AxonetBE: if package A needs package B at version 2 but package B is only at version 1, then package A will not be installed as the dependancy cannot be satisfied. Once there is package B at version 2 or it is available to be installed at version 2, Package A will install
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> AxonetBE: until that time, it will be 'held back'
[11:48] <mattymo> I'm trying to install 12.04 server minimal on a dell server in iDRAC and it took a while, but I finished network config
[11:48] <mattymo> then it goes to a blank screen and sits there
[11:48] <mattymo> any ideas what it's doing? it's been hanging for 10 minutes
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> AxonetBE: if you start adding PPAs to get later versions of packages, then you will need to satisfy the deps for the build, meaning adding more PPAs or other stuff
[11:50] <AxonetBE> ActionParsnip: thanks !
[11:58] <pahaloom> could anyone explain what is going to happen with thinkpad linux kernel module regarding to microphone mute led? I noticed the source has changed significantly so that the script available at "Building, testing and installing the kernel module" section at http://askubuntu.com/questions/125367/enabling-mic-mute-button-and-light-on-lenovo-thinkpads does not quite work anymore
[11:59] <docente> after half hour that eth receives at 100Mbit full speed, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/TGMe2Bad and the eth0 don't work anymore. ideas?
[12:02] <Subroutine> hi ppl, im running Lubuntu 13.04. as you know support end in less then two weeks. should i expect any issues if i go ahead and use software updater to ubdate to 13.10 or is it smooth process?
[12:02] <sander^work> How do I mount a crypted ubuntu root partition from a booted cd?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Subroutine: it varys, is all we can say
[12:03] <SaZi> Hello guys!
[12:03] <SaZi> anyone willing to help me ?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> SaZi: with details, maybe
[12:03] <Subroutine> ActionParsnip: right, lets give it a try :-P
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !details|SaZi,
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> docente: i suggest you report a bug. I've seen los of 'PHY status 786d' online
[12:04] <SaZi> Aight, one moment please =)
[12:05] <docente> ActionParsnip, ok i open right now
[12:09] <SaZi> So yea, i am trying to make cryptocoin pool (netcoin, to see and learn) i am using Digital Oceans droplet, 1gb Ram, 1Cpu as test server, and had to install LAMP (which i never did) first i tried tasksel but didnt work, after that i tried direct install command which i found on net... but now i am not sure that do i have all needed things installed for pool
[12:09] <ikonia> saju_m: so what do you need from us ?
[12:10] <saju_m> ikonia:sorry
[12:10] <ikonia> saju_m: sorry, I mant SaZi
[12:10] <ikonia> my fault
[12:10] <saju_m> ikonia:ok, no prob
[12:11] <SaZi> I need help with few steps if its okay, first how do i instal Openssh ?
[12:12] <TomyWork> where does ubuntu store "postrm" from a package?
[12:12] <ikonia> SaZi: it's installed by default on ubuntu
[12:12] <ikonia> TomyWork: postrm from a package ?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !openssh|SaZi,
[12:13] <ikonia> TomyWork: have you installed a package ?
[12:13] <TomyWork> nm, got it: /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> SaZi: client or server?
[12:13] <SaZi> lol, so its same SSH on putty that i use right now.. so i am good to continue
[12:13] <SaZi> server
[12:14] <TomyWork> putty isnt openssh
[12:14] <hitsujiTMO> SaZi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:14] <TomyWork> but the protocol is the same, yes
[12:14] <goog> How can I easily modify UFW or IPTables on multiple hosts?
[12:14] <TomyWork> goog,  clusterssh
[12:15] <TomyWork> apt-get install csshx or cssh or something
[12:15] <SaZi> hitsuji i did almost succees.. but i just wrote without * - * so thats why i failed
[12:15] <TomyWork> if not, google it :)
[12:15] <SaZi> Ookie openSSh in
[12:16] <SaZi> thanks guys, ill ask again when i get stuck!
[12:16] <JustSomeGuy> hi how can i change how the background image will be mapped to the desktop via an configfile or the cli? i want to set a default background and change the mapping so the background image will scale to the size of the desktop
[12:17] <thoonai> How do I disallow all actions on virtualbox except 'vboxsdl start <vm>'?
[12:17] <goog> TomyWork: thanks
[12:18] <Subroutine> ActionParsnip: so far, so good. but it looks like its installing all lubuntu default packages i got rid of after fresh install(chromium,abiword,gnummeric,audiocas,...)
[12:18] <TomyWork> goog, in the long run, something like puppet is probably better though
[12:21] <goog> TomyWork: what's the hottest right now? chef, puppet, salt?
[12:21] <JustSomeGuy> ansible!
[12:21] <hitsujiTMO> goog: puppet from any of the job specs i've looked at
[12:21] <goog> what's so good about Ansible?
[12:22] <goog> chef 0 puppet 1 salt 0 ansible 1
[12:22] <JustSomeGuy> its easy like salt but needs no agent just ssh access
[12:22] <goog> JustSomeGuy: so it's not as complex as the other ones?
[12:22] <JustSomeGuy> goog, yeah
[12:23] <JustSomeGuy> for small to midsized enviroments it works great
[12:23] <eugene_ubuntu> Hello everyone! I have a problem: I have sound from native speakers, though three's no sound from headphones. My ubuntu version is 13.10 and the hardware is iMac.
[12:24] <goog> JustSomeGuy: hope ansible is easy to learn
[12:24] <JustSomeGuy> goog, very easy here is an introduction http://docs.ansible.com/intro.html
[12:33] <JustSomeGuy> is there a way to set default configs for unity via a config file?
[12:34] <goog> JustSomeGuy: "While it may be common sense, it is worth sharing: Any management system benefits from being run near your machines you are being managed. If running in a cloud, consider running Ansible from a machine inside that cloud. It will work better than on the open intranet in most cases." is this what i'm supposed to do? i shouldn't run directly from my laptop?
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> JustSomeGuy: for new users?
[12:35] <JustSomeGuy> goog, you can but it could be slow if you are far away from the system you want to manage. but you can use something like git to manage the ansible config files, test on your local computer and then push the changes to a server which will then configure your systems
[12:35] <JustSomeGuy> hitsujiTMO, yes
[12:35] <hitsujiTMO> JustSomeGuy: add config to /etc/skel?
[12:35] <JustSomeGuy> hitsujiTMO, i have an ltsp system and want to define default settings for new users
[12:37] <JustSomeGuy> hitsujiTMO, i did that but somehow unity is ignoring my setting (i changed the background to stretched via picture_options and added that to ~/.gconf/desktop/background/&gconf.xml)
[12:37] <JustSomeGuy> ur %gconf.xml not &gconf.xml
[12:38] <JustSomeGuy> when i run gconf-editor and check the key it is properly setted also in the config menu of unity it is set to the right value but the background is still wrong
[12:40] <JustSomeGuy> uh sry no the value in gconf is correct but the value in the unity config tool is wrong
[12:42] <billal97> hola
[12:43] <JustSomeGuy> here is a screenshot http://i.imgur.com/Pla2leV.png "Vergrößerung" should be "Füllen"
[12:43] <Magical1> I am trying to update the contents  of a folder, I have a new folder that contains all the new files, but there are files in the old folder that need to remain, but anything that all ready exists should be overwritten by new versions ... is there an easy way to do this or do I have to manually copy file by file?
[12:43] <billal97> hiii!
[12:44] <JustSomeGuy> whoever thought something like gconf/dconf was a good idea was clearly insane :/
[12:44] <JustSomeGuy> (ie used to much windows)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> JustSomeGuy: its a central config place, makes sense
[12:45] <twisted`> Hi guys, I got an interesting problem here
[12:45] <JustSomeGuy> ActionParsnip, if it would read from a plaintext file yeah maybe
[12:46] <billal97> fuckkkk youu
[12:46] <twisted`> on a different wifi network I cannot access *any* Google websites. Oddly enough I can do an nslookup, take the IP and visit it anyway
[12:46] <twisted`> ping also responds
[12:46] <twisted`> but in the browser it doesn't work
[12:46] <twisted`> any ideas?
[12:46] <FloodBot1> twisted`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <streulma> hello, is it normal that the tamtam sound of ubuntu 14.04 is lower then earlier versions?
[12:49] <gordonjcp> streulma: I sincerely hope so
[12:50] <streulma> I play music :)
[12:50] <gordonjcp> it's one of the showstopper bugs in Ubuntu that the bloody login sound cannot be turned off
[12:50] <streulma> I'm a musician and I notice that
[12:50] <ikonia> streulma: try not to cross post please, you're using 14.04 - that discussion belongs in #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <gordonjcp> streulma: sudo rm -r /usr/share/sounds/* works for me
[12:51] <gordonjcp> having that "BADABONK" play through a huge PA system by accident is a serious problem
[12:52] <streulma> LOL ! :)
[12:54] <streulma> I have a problem with Xorg crashed on Ubuntu 13.10
[12:54] <streulma> aybe it is the video card that panics ?
[12:54] <Munster> mornin'
[12:55] <streulma> hello Munster
[12:55] <JustSomeGuy> ActionParsnip, i mean now i found out that i have to use gsettings to change the picture options for unity i did that which saved the setting to a binary blob called dconf/user which i cant use to change that option for all users because there a settings in there that i dont want to change for all users also i cant use gsettings via ssh because of dbus errors. it just makes this hole thing very hard to automate.
[12:56] <Munster> hellc streulma
[12:56] <streulma> I have dual graphics Nvidia 9400M and 9600M installed, but nvidia-319-updates crashed
[12:56] <streulma> on 12.04 not, on 13.10 it is not ok
[12:57] <Munster> streulma, running dual monitors ?
[12:57] <streulma> no Munster
[12:58] <streulma> I have a Macbook Pro with 9400M and 9600M dual card
[12:59] <streulma> on Ubuntu 12.04 it works like a Munster :)
[12:59] <streulma> so, should I use 12.04 then ?
[13:00] <docente> howto submit bug here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/  i cannot fine the "add bug" button/function
[13:00] <Munster> ok , not familiar with that setup ..is that some sort of dual graphics/load level, battery saving setup ?
[13:01] <darking> bnc
[13:01] <darking> ?
[13:01] <darking> :)
[13:01] <darking> 1
[13:01] <FloodBot1> darking: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <zetheroo1> fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 ... trying to install flashplugin-installer ... it gets this far and then just sits there http://paste.ubuntu.com/6756011/
[13:01] <mi4oyin> Amitabha
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> docente: you initiate it with ubuntu-bug                 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:04] <docente> hitsujiTMO, is too long to read i have no time to spent... i'm registered to launchpad, but i cannot find the button to ad da bug (button present in every bug management system)
[13:04] <docente> where is it?
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> docente: use: ubuntu-bug <packagename>               from within ubuntu.
[13:07] <docente> hitsujiTMO, is not possible to open by hand? the system with bug is no more accessible i have only dmesg output
[13:08] <docente> hitsujiTMO, is a linux kernel module bug
[13:08] <user__> How can I read pdfs in the terminal?
[13:08] <galaxyAbstractor> Hi
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> docente: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME/+filebug?no-redirect                            replace PACKAGENAME in the url
[13:09] <galaxyAbstractor> How can I make ubuntu turn off the screen instead of rendering a gray image when going into screensaver?
[13:09] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there
[13:10] <CaptainQuirk> I modified my grub file to prevent ubuntu to load the graphical splash screen
[13:10] <CaptainQuirk> After login in, I do startx
[13:10] <CaptainQuirk> I get the desktop background, but nothing else
[13:10] <CaptainQuirk> well, the files and folders on my desktop too
[13:10] <CaptainQuirk> but the lense is absent
[13:11] <CaptainQuirk> as the navbar on top
[13:11] <galaxyAbstractor> It's extremely annoying since I use ubuntu on my file server that's hooked up to the same screen as my windows computer, and whenever windows turns off the screen in the screensaver, my screen switches to next input that is sending a signal (=ubuntu)
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: "I modified my grub file to prevent ubuntu to load the graphical splash screen"      how exactly did you do this?
[13:12] <yacc> Any idea how quick a fix in the Intel HD video driver will make it from upstream into Ubuntu?
[13:13] <sandGorgon> does anyone know how to remap the XF86Copy to super+c ?
[13:17] <galaxyAbstractor> Otherwise, would it be possible to run a command whenever the screensaver comes on? Like 'xset dpms force off'?
[13:18] <CaptainQuirk> hitsujiTMO, modifying /etc/default/grub, specifically the entry « GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT »
[13:18] <galaxyAbstractor> I donm't really get the idea off just rendering a screen to save power instead of turning the screen off
[13:18] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainBeard: what exactly did you change it to?
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: ^
[13:19] <CaptainQuirk> quiet splash text
[13:19] <CaptainQuirk> I have a beard to
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: ok, that wont effect the desktop. so something unrelated has gone wrong. reset unity/compiz settings.
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: did you run startx with sudo by any chance?
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: btw, to get rid of the splash screen, you remove splash, not add text
[13:24] <linuxearth> cannon camera doens't get detected or does it get detected in ubuntu?
[13:24] <glitsj16> galaxyAbstractor: have you looked at the 'Brightness & Lock' settings? there's an option to turn off the screen after .. idle time
[13:24] <Ben64> linuxearth: plug it in and find out?
[13:24] <Pici> linuxearth: I don't remember having an issue with my 350d or 550d.
[13:25] <yacc> linuxearth: what canon camera and what are you doing to get it detected?
[13:25] <linuxearth> detecting the phoots
[13:25] <galaxyAbstractor> glitsj16: that only renders a gray picture, it doesn't turn your screen off
[13:26] <Lunar_LanderU> hi, I earlier tried to get /proc/cpuinfo on a machine while using a Live CD, but typing that into the terminal only gave "permission denied", and I would like to know the CPU flags, to see if the CPU has PAE. What can I do?
[13:26] <Pici> Lunar_LanderU: What exactly did you type?
[13:27] <Lunar_LanderU> I openened the terminal and wrote "/proc/cpuinfo"
[13:27] <galaxyAbstractor> Seems like doing 'xset +dpms; xset dpms 300' in a terminal makes the screen turn off properly after 5 minutes, but will that stick between reboots or do I have to execute that on each startup?
[13:27] <Carlital> Hi fellow ubuntu users
[13:27] <Pici> Lunar_LanderU: Its a file, not an executable.  Use "cat /proc/cpuinfo" or "less /proc/cpuinfo"
[13:27] <Lunar_LanderU> OK, thanks :)
[13:28] <Pici> Lunar_LanderU: "lscpu" might also work.
[13:28] <Lunar_LanderU> yea
[13:28] <Lunar_LanderU> just tried it, works
[13:28] <Lunar_LanderU> thanks!
[13:28] <Lunar_LanderU> have a nice day :)
[13:28] <Pici> I'll try...
[13:28] <Lunar_LanderU> yea
[13:28] <Lunar_LanderU> cu!
[13:32] <kurt-nos> salut
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> !fr | kurt-nos
[13:33] <ZachInIsrael> does anyone have any idea why I can't create a boot disk on a thumb drive, I downloaded an ISO from the ubuntu web page, and when I try to use the startup disk creator it gives me an error every time, its a 32 gb thumb drive that I bought a few hours ago,
[13:33] <cfhowlett> ZachInIsrael, error messages would help here - immensely.
[13:33] <Ben64> ZachInIsrael: whats the error
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> ZachInIsrael: startup diskcreator is buggy. use unetbootin instead
[13:34] <ZachInIsrael> NoneType() <= str()
[13:34] <ZachInIsrael> i tried unetbootin on my mac, that didn't work eaither
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> ZachInIsrael: dd the iso to usb
[13:35] <ZachInIsrael> i think I tried that as well
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> ZachInIsrael: are you booting it on a mac?
[13:36] <ZachInIsrael> no, booting it on a generic pc, just tried to make the disk on a ma
[13:36] <hitsujiTMO> ZachInIsrael: md5sum the iso first
[13:36] <demophobia> Why isn't flac listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats#What_is_a_Free_format.3F ?
[13:36] <ZachInIsrael> trying to install a SSD on my computer, and it has been taking me all day wiht one problem after another
[13:37] <ansel> hello
[13:37] <ansel> exit
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> demonspork: its a little further down
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: ^
[13:38] <cfhowlett> demophobia, MP3
[13:38] <cfhowlett> The MP3 format is or may be subject to certain patents, for both encoding and decoding. These patents are being actively litigated, so usage and development of programs related to the MP3 format is at your own risk. Consider using Ogg Vorbis, which is a free and higher quality alternative to MP3 (you just need to buy audio equipment more carefully).
[13:38] <cfhowlett> Other free audio formats:
[13:38] <cfhowlett>     FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) for, e.g., music archival
[13:38] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: prob to do with the fact that plac isn't intended for general use
[13:38] <glitsj16> galaxyAbstractor: just tested with setting it to turn off screen after 1 minute, works fine, no 'gray image' .. are you using gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver ?
[13:39] <demophobia> lol @ "don't use enter as punctuation"
[13:39] <demophobia> hitsujiTMO, flac isn't intended for general use?! really?! i thought it was o_o why d'you say it's not? ...
[13:39] <galaxyAbstractor> glitsj16: What's the default? I haven't installed or changed anything regarding that since install :P
[13:39] <ZachInIsrael> using dd didn't work, it thinks there is no os on my thumb drive
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: its lossless. so not the best compression. Its more for studio work than anything else
[13:40] <demophobia> for "music archival"? does that mean i should only use flac for storage, not for daily listening?
[13:40] <demophobia> i thought flac meant highest audio quality = best listening experience
[13:40] <unknown101> How can I hide my hostname from "/whois" ???
[13:41] <glitsj16> galaxyAbstractor: gnome-screensaver comes by default .. easily checked though .. apt-cache policy gnome-screensaver  will tell you if it is installed or not
[13:41] <Pici> unknown101: you can ask for a cloak in #freenode that can help hide your IP to casual users.
[13:41] <glitsj16> galaxyAbstractor: what version of ubuntu are you running btw?
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: audiophiles would have you believe that. flac is a lossless type. the difference between a high quality lossy type and a lossless type is typically inaudible.
[13:42] <galaxyAbstractor> glitsj16: 13.10 64-bit. gnome-screensaver is installed
[13:42] <cfhowlett> hitsujiTMO, well, you DOG might be able to distinguish the difference ...
[13:45] <glitsj16> galaxyAbstractor: have you tried switching to xscreensaver? that should have a 'blank screen only' option iirc
[13:45] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: certain types of sounds don't compress well with certain lossy techniques and lead to distortion. thats generally the main complaint about mp3 as it cuts off anything above 15khz.and many high pitch noises feature some sort of distortion. (not easily picked up by most listeners)
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> cfhowlett: when my dog learns to compress his own music then i'll stick with his choice of compression methods
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[13:46] <cfhowlett> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu 14.10: Krafty K-9
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> lol
[13:47] <gabriel> hmm
[13:47] <galaxyAbstractor> glitsj16: nope, but I'll try afer I've completed my lunch :>
[13:48] <CaptainQuirk> hitsujiTMO, no I didn't start it with sudo
[13:48] <CaptainQuirk> should I ?
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: no dont.
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> CaptainQuirk: try opening a terminal and resetting unity. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[13:49] <demophobia> is there a website i can go to do a "sound test" and see whether i can tell the difference between ogg and flac?
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: maybe http://nigelcoldwell.co.uk/audio/
[13:52] <demophobia> cool, thank you
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: could rip a CD to ogg and flac (same track)
[13:56] <demophobia> Is it normal for me to be installing updates almost daily for 12.04?
[13:57] <demophobia> recently ...
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> demonspork: 12.04.4 got added to the repos it seems, so yeah
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: ^
[13:59] <sidux> nhjgljöhgjghjgh
[13:59] <sidux> Hallo Server bitte wider verbinden
[13:59] <sidux> fsdf
[13:59] <sidux> fsdfsdjfidjriewiqjt+
[13:59] <sidux> rtoeripoerip
[13:59] <FloodBot1> sidux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <sidux> Bin auf der such nach
[14:00] <sidux> Bitte verbindung wider hersttelen
[14:00] <trijntje> !de
[14:01] <demophobia> Is there a virus scanner for Ubuntu? Should I not worry about viruses if I'm doing legit things?
[14:01] <sidux> hallo aber bitte etwas vloter
[14:01] <sidux> I will ein Broser
[14:01] <trijntje> demophobia: you can use clamTK to scan for windows viruses, since there are 0 known viruses for ubuntu
[14:02] <DJones> sidux: This channel is English language only, please use #ubuntu-de for support in German language
[14:02] <sidux> bin emzu
[14:02] <demophobia> hehe, thanks Tribaal
[14:02] <demophobia> .... trijntje
[14:02] <demophobia> ^ is there a word for that, when you error tab complete?
[14:02] <DJones> demophobia: Yep, "oops" :)
[14:02] <demophobia> :| lol
[14:05] <Tribaal> demophobia: you're welcome :p
[14:22] <sgo11> hi, how to install gnash to chromium? I have installed gnash, but chromium does not recognize it. thanks.
[14:23] <trijntje> sgo11: why not use normal flash?
[14:24] <ZachInIsrael> i still am having no luck getting this boot disk working I downloaded ubuntu again, check both the SHA1 and the md5 (both fine)
[14:24] <sgo11> trijntje, because I am using arm. normal flash does not exist in arm. thanks.
[14:24] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: what are you trying to do?
[14:24] <ZachInIsrael> then I used dd to copy it to my thumb drive,
[14:25] <ZachInIsrael> I am trying to get a SSD drive into my computer,
[14:25] <ZachInIsrael> or possibly shave a yak
[14:25] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: have you tried using startup-disk-creator or unetbootin instead of dd?
[14:27] <ZachInIsrael> yes, to both
[14:27] <ZachInIsrael> with about the same results,
[14:29] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: ok, what happens after you write the image to the usb disk?
[14:29] <ZachInIsrael> i reboot the computer, it either does nothing, or it tells me that there is no os on the disk
[14:30] <Munster> sgo11, what does abouit:plugins in chromium show?
[14:30] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: have you tried the usb on another computer?
[14:30] <Munster> about:plugins
[14:32] <ZachInIsrael> as in trying to build it or to boot it? I tried to build one on my mac, but I don't have a spare PC around to try it on
[14:32] <sgo11> Munster, problem solved. just need to install "browser-plugin-gnash".  I thought "gnash" package was enough. thanks.
[14:32] <Munster> sgo11, good
[14:32] <sgo11> Munster, ^_^
[14:33] <CaptainQuirk> hitsujiTMO, I dit setsid unity
[14:33] <CaptainQuirk> hitsujiTMO, and got « another window manager is already running on screen :0 »
[14:33] <CaptainQuirk> Is X11 the problem
[14:37] <ZachInIsrael> trying to create another startup disk, this time from unetbootln on my mac, different thumbdrive
[14:37] <gordonjcp> ZachInIsrael: don't use unetbootin, use dd
[14:37] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: since many people boot ubuntu succesfully, I'd say its a problem with you're BIOS settings. Can you put the usb in your pc and check if the bIOS sees it as a second harddisk instead of usb drive?
[14:38] <ZachInIsrael> it is seeing it as a hard drive
[14:38] <ZachInIsrael> I tried DD, it didn't work, someone said use unetbootin
[14:43] <Habbibo> hi
[14:43] <knightshade> hi
[14:45] <ZachInIsrael> ok, now I created a boot disk with unetbootin, on a different thumbdrive, with fedora, and it is *STILL* not booting
[14:46] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: like I said, its probably a problem with the BIOS. But why don't you test the disk on the fedora pc?
[14:46] <ZachInIsrael> I don't have a fedora PC, there is only one PC, I put fedora on the thumbdrive
[14:49] <ZachInIsrael> i think there might be a bios problem, in general, i have noticed a few other things, and when I try to boot most of the time when I hit delete to get into the bios screen it doens't work
[14:50] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: how old is that pc?
[14:51] <ZachInIsrael> about 2-3 years
[14:51] <ZachInIsrael> but it was not really high end when i got it, hence my tying to put a SSD into it
[14:52] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: what does putting an SSD in have to do with ubuntu?
[14:53] <ZachInIsrael> nothing, except that is what I was trying to do which caused me to need the boot device in the first place
[14:53] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: ok, did you try Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit?
[14:54] <ZachInIsrael> yes, that is what I have been trying most of today, (I also tried fedora 20 64 bit)
[14:54] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: and is ubuntu installed on that pc now?
[14:55] <ZachInIsrael> yes
[14:56] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: how did you install ubuntu on that pc? Maybe if you use the same method it will work
[14:56] <ZachInIsrael> via a thumbdrive
[14:59] <verodeb> hi, i cant install openjdk-7-jdk and openjdk-7-jre, these are the issues http://pastebin.com/s4J1m9gD
[15:00] <trijntje> verodeb: what version of ubuntu are you using, and is it fully up to date?
[15:00] <verodeb> it is debian wheezy
[15:02] <trijntje> verodeb: try asking in #debian
[15:02] <verodeb> i did
[15:02] <ZachInIsrael> the bios of my computer is def messed up, everytime I want to boot from a thumb drive I need to go back into the setup to select it
[15:02] <socram8888> verodeb are you still attempting to get java running?
[15:03] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: yeah, bios sucks, it different for every PC. And now with UEFI/secureboot its even worse
[15:03] <ZachInIsrael> so true
[15:03] <ZachInIsrael> at least I got the boot drive working
[15:03] <ZachInIsrael> finally, took an entire work day to get this far so not happy
[15:03] <gacyne> can you use UEFI to kick start Grub or something like that?
[15:04] <ubuntu-studio> huhuhuhuhuh
[15:04] <gacyne> i mean install grub to the EUFI ram/rom
[15:04] <socram8888> may I get some help from a developer? it's about accessing a hwdep device
[15:04] <ubuntu-studio> alguem do Brasil?
[15:04] <trijntje> ZachInIsrael: can you tell us how you did it? In case other people read this and have the same problem
[15:06] <nannes> !info usbutils
[15:08] <bluecap> i am trying to install kubuntu-desktop...but it says "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kubuntu-desktop : Depends: kde-window-manager E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[15:08] <bluecap> any suggestions ?
[15:08] <ZachInIsrael> ok it is installing, thanks for the help everyone
[15:09] <gacyne> apt-get install xfce-desktop ?
[15:09] <cyx^> A colleague of mine upgraded a recent kernel update (so he says) and now ssh-add complains it cannot open a connection to the auth agent. However I see it running (ssh-agent). Could anyone help?
[15:09] <Mandalord> bluecap: try another mirror?
[15:09] <trijntje> gacyne: thats not helping
[15:11] <Justin_ZW> So I've got a bit of a problem. I'm trying to install Ubuntu as a dual boot with Windows 7, and I shrunk my NTFS partition to make room for Ubuntu. However, when trying to install Ubuntu through the CD, I get a ton of errors saying it couldn't find a valid medium for a filesystem or something.
[15:11] <Justin_ZW> It lists /dev/sdb - sde, but not /dev/sda
[15:11] <Justin_ZW> So I wonder if it isn't recognizing the HDD or something
[15:11] <Justin_ZW> Any insight on this?
[15:12] <trijntje> Justin_ZW: maybe windows is on one of those, it doesn't have to be /dev/sda. Have you checked?
[15:12] <gacyne> try parted and make new partition and format it?
[15:12] <Justin_ZW> I can't get to gparted
[15:12] <Justin_ZW> It fails and makes a default fs from RAM
[15:12] <Justin_ZW> With a terribly limited command line
[15:13] <Justin_ZW> It wasn't any shell I've ever seen. It was busybox.
[15:13] <trijntje> Justin_ZW: command line? You shouldn't get a command line when using the ubuntu installer. What version of ubuntu did you download?
[15:14] <Justin_ZW> I don't remember. I know it isn't current, but maybe I need to clarify something: I can't even get to the live boot test gui
[15:14] <bluecap> it says :"Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming."
[15:14] <Hix> with vncserver are there any other files that I need to edit for config apart from ~/.vnc/xstartup ? Getting grey screeens or desktop with no menus etc
[15:14] <trijntje> Justin_ZW: go to ubuntu.com and download the latest version, and try again. It could be the image is just to old for your pc
[15:15] <gacyne> its probably not recognizing the HHD
[15:15] <bluecap> it says --"Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created"
[15:15] <Justin_ZW> I don't have the means to put an ISO on a disk right now.
[15:15] <Justin_ZW> And I don't have any flash drives.
[15:15] <Justin_ZW> Is there any way to get around that?
[15:16] <gacyne> you can boot an iso from grub
[15:16] <trijntje> Justin_ZW: can you hold shift while booting from CD and check the disk for errors?
[15:17] <Justin_ZW> Does holding shift bring you to a menu that says stuff like "Live boot from CD / Install Ubuntu / Check disk for errors / something / something
[15:17] <Justin_ZW> Because if so, I tried that and it did the same thing.
[15:17] <trijntje> Justin_ZW: yeah, you need the 'check disk for errors' option
[15:18] <trijntje> did what?
[15:18] <Justin_ZW> Wouldn't even check the disk.
[15:18] <Justin_ZW> It just took me to busybox
[15:18] <Justin_ZW> Saying it couldn't find a valid filesystem medium or something
[15:18] <trijntje> Justin_ZW: sounds like the CD is really broken, I don't think there's much you can do at this point
[15:19] <trijntje> other than creating a new boot medium that is
[15:19] <Justin_ZW> But what I don't get is that the same CD worked on other computers.
[15:19] <Justin_ZW> Recently.
[15:19] <Justin_ZW> And it wasn't damaged.
[15:28] <Monotoko> does anyone know what the following means in sudoers? <username> ALL = !/bin/sh
[15:29] <Diehard> it means the user can use /bin/sh with all privilegies
[15:29] <Diehard> Monotoko:
[15:30] <Monotoko> Diehard: are you sure?
[15:30] <Diehard> Monotoko: I hope so
[15:30] <Monotoko> Diehard: I have this in the manual "An exclamation point (‘!') can be used as a logical not operator in a list or alias as well as in front of a Cmnd. This allows one to exclude certain values."
[15:30] <Diehard> Monotoko:
[15:30] <Diehard> Allow all commands except shell johnny ALL=(root) ALL,!/bin/sh
[15:30] <Diehard> :D
[15:31] <Diehard> sry
[15:31] <FloodBot1> Diehard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <Diehard> didnt notice the !
[15:33] <Monotoko> Diehard: what kind of things can we run if we can't run /bin/bash or /bin/sh
[15:34] <Diehard> Monotoko: other shell
[15:35] <Diehard> Monotoko: f.e. /bin/dash
[15:35] <Diehard> which is default shell in ubuntu
[15:35] <Diehard> instead of bash
[15:35] <Diehard> /bin/sh is just a symlink
[15:35] <Monotoko> Diehard: it's not allowing us to use /bin/dash
[15:35] <Monotoko> even though it isn't mentioned...
[15:36] <Diehard> because /bin/sh is symlink to /bin/bash
[15:36] <Diehard> eh dash
[15:36] <Diehard> run /bin/bash instead
[15:36] <Diehard> you should run it
[15:36] <Diehard> *be able to
[15:37] <jatt> to fix a problem with my graphic card currently I type:
[15:37] <jatt> echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
[15:37] <jatt> what should I do to set such (kernel) parameter automatically when I start my amchine? (I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.4).
[15:41] <Hix> Anyone wise in the ways of VNC for 13.04? Continually getting a grey screen X instead of cursor
[15:43] <compdoc> Hix, vnc needs a 2d desktop, and they seem to not provide those for Unity anymore
[15:44] <Hix> compdoc - can I use xfce?
[15:44] <compdoc> maybe. I did it by installing Ubuntu Server, and then the Mate desktop
[15:45] <compdoc> Hix, but also I switched to xrdp
[15:46] <Hix> I've installed rdp but dont seem to be having any luck with that either. think 3389 is blocked at work so have set xrdp to 5902 but still not luck
[15:46] <compdoc> same problem
[15:47] <Hix> joy :/
[15:48] <hblanco> Hello to everybody :-D
[15:49] <cjae> I need ffmpeg but if im getting it I might as well get all the video conversion stuff I need. Isnt there a big package that includes ffmpeg as well?
[15:49] <Droids> quick question: what are the most common ubuntu-based distros with gnomeshell by default?
[15:49] <zetheroo1> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a brand new T440p Thinkpad with Intel graphics ... is there a way to check if I am using the correct graphics driver? -- I have a feeling that compiz is not running for some reason ...
[15:51] <DJones> Droids: Well the official one is http://www.ubuntugnome.com/ thats the one that would be supported here
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Droids: why not just install gnome-shell on Ubuntu... then you will get the shell and the support of the Ubuntu community
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo1: ps -ef | grep -i compiz | grep -v grep
[15:52] <zetheroo1> ActionParsnip: gives no output
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo1: then its not running
[15:53] <zetheroo1> shucks
[15:53] <Droids> DJones: alright. what is the difference to "ubuntu gnome shell remix"?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo1: there is an Intel driver GUI installer. OmgUbuntu has a nice guide how to install the installer
[15:53] <Droids> ActionParsnip: hm, can I install it besides xfce (Xubuntu) without problems? and every login choose if I want the gnomeshell or the xfce environment?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Droids: sure, will be fine
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Droids: I believe you can run Gnome shell on top of the XFCE, I could be wrong
[15:54] <zetheroo1> Is this the one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/intel-release-graphical-installer-for-their-linux-drivers
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo1: aye
[15:54] <zetheroo1> ok, will give that a try
[15:55] <zetheroo1> is that supposed to update the Intel gfx drivers?
[15:55] <DJones> Droids: I think the difference is about 6-12 months, in that the old Gnome shell remix project that went up to about 12.04/12.10, became the official ubuntugnome project
[15:56] <Droids> ActionParsnip: awesome, thanks a lot! I will give it a try, I think
[15:56] <Hix> hey compdoc - http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=4448 after a few days of failure - looks promising
[15:56] <Droids> DJones: ah, alright ;) thx for clarification
[15:56] <Subroutine> hello, ive upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 due support end within two weeks. upgrade cleaned  /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart, but even i add xcreensaver & power-management manualy  they dont start automaticaly on stratup. any suggestions please?
[15:56] <compdoc> Hix, cool
[15:57] <zetheroo1> ActionParsnip: says here (https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0-linux) that it's obsolete ... and if I go to the latest version it's for Ubuntu 13.04 .... can I still install it under 12.04?
[15:57] <DJones> Droids: Just doing a bit of digging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME Ubuntu GNOME (formerly Ubuntu GNOME Remix) is a mostly pure GNOME desktop experience built from the Ubuntu repositories. Our first (unofficial) release was 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal), released in October 2012. The first official release was 13.04
[15:58] <Droids> DJones: yeah thx. sorry I didn't do it myself, I am pretty much multitasking right now and about to leave
[15:58] <Droids> * in a hurry
[15:59] <compdoc> Hix, i chose the Mate desktop because you can install normal Ubuntu applications that run in Unity/gnome. I dont know if xfce supports those programs
[15:59] <Hix> ah, oki
[15:59] <Hix> cheers for the advice
[16:01] <Monotoko> Diehard: we moved a command we could run
[16:01] <Monotoko> put /bin/bash in it's place
[16:02] <Monotoko> then ran that
[16:02] <zetheroo1> how do you find out which gfx driver is currently in use?
[16:04] <Diehard> zetheroo1: sudo lspci -k
[16:05] <oodavid> Is it possible to use debconf-set-selections to select <Yes> when installing tmpreaper ?
[16:05] <cjae> cant believe noone answered that
[16:05] <Diehard> cjae: noone answered what?
[16:06] <zetheroo1> Diehard: strange ... no driver info for the "VGA compatible controller"
[16:07] <cjae> is there a bigger package that includes ffmpeg as well as other conversion tools etc.. for example gcc comipler is to build essentials as ffmpeg is to ....
[16:07] <user____> is there an open source equivalent of PDF?
[16:07] <Diehard> zetheroo1: what is the gpu?
[16:08] <zetheroo1> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[16:08] <cjae> Diehard: ^^
[16:09] <rchu> cjae, apt-cache search ffmpeg
[16:10] <Diehard> zetheroo1: :x
[16:10] <Diehard> zetheroo1: try glxinfo
[16:10] <filosofixit> All of the menu items in every program is greyed out. Anyone know a solution?
[16:10] <bazhang> cjae, handbrake perhaps
[16:12] <cjae> not sure you guys are understanding me, I was once told I should download a package it included ffmpeg but included several other things as well. Not just one program
[16:12] <zetheroo1> Diehard: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6756930/
[16:12] <cjae> cant remember the name
[16:13] <rchu> cjae, what were you trying to do?
[16:13] <zetheroo1> Intel Graphics Installer says: Checking if Intel graphics card available... Failed
[16:13] <Diehard> zaspire: what cpu is it?
[16:13] <bazhang> cjae, handbrake for conversion
[16:13] <cjae> rchu: well I only need ffmpeg right now but I wanted to see if anyone remember what the metapackage name was
[16:14] <Diehard> zetheroo1: what cpu do you have and what kernel?
[16:14] <bazhang> cjae, it's not a metapackage
[16:14] <filosofixit> sorry.. wrong channel.. will try #ubuntu-desktop
[16:15] <cjae> bazhang: it was a package that contained a bunch of cli conversion stuff
[16:15] <rchu> yeah, bazhang is right, it's used by some other packs, but it stands on it's own
[16:15] <zetheroo1> Diehard: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6756946/
[16:15] <Diehard> zetheroo1: and kernel you use?
[16:16] <zetheroo1> 3.2.0-58-generic
[16:16] <Diehard> zetheroo1: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and after that try the intel installer
[16:16] <cjae> maybe it was called transcode or something like that
[16:17] <cjae> think it was hyphenated
[16:17] <zetheroo1> Diehard: still the same ... "You don't seem to have an Intel graphics card, so no updates needed"
[16:17] <cjae> or avi-tools or some s**t
[16:17] <hdevalence> Hi, does Ubuntu ship an executable named python2 ?
[16:18] <bazhang> cjae, well you can apt-cache search name for it
[16:18] <strixUK> hi all, i've got a problem with a fresh install of 13.10 server with / on md+lvm.  there appears to be some sort of timing issue between the assembly of the raid1 array and initialisation of lvm, and i get dumped to an initramfs prompt.  a 'vgchange -ay' completes lvm initialisation, and ^D allows boot to finish.  So much for diagnosis, but i have no idea how to go about fixing it.
[16:18] <Diehard> zetheroo1: and what about ubuntu drivers? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:18] <bazhang> cjae, unless you meant avidemux
[16:18] <Diehard> zetheroo1: have to go :/ try the above and gl
[16:18] <cjae> bazhang: isnt that gui?
[16:18] <zetheroo1> ok thanks
[16:18] <bazhang> cjae, it is
[16:19] <bazhang> cjae, as is handbrake
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: whats the output of: uname -a
[16:19] <cjae> yeah not really what I was thinking of ... man I hate #cantknow
[16:19] <zetheroo1> Linux eb-T440p 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:20] <strixUK> i've tried rootwait, lvmwait, scsi_mod.scan=sync and maybe one or two other things, but there is no difference.  i've also tried drilling into the initramfs-tools scripts, but i can't quite see how they hang together, other than that it has something to do with udev.  any clues how udev times things, or where i can ask about udev?
[16:20] <bazhang> cjae, well, if you explained precisely what you were trying to do
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: i suspect a kernel update is what you need.
[16:20] <cjae> forgot that means something else on irc...lol.... its ok bazhang ill just install ffmpeg
[16:20] <cjae> maybe it come to me
[16:20] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: but i think I have the latest kernel for 12.04 already
[16:20] <bazhang> ok
[16:21] <user____> How can I remove the path name from tracks in cmus?
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: you've the latest 3.2 kernel. but there's also a 3.5/3.8/3.11 kernel in the 12.04 repo
[16:22] <YOURBESTFRIEND> where do I suggest new features/changes to ubuntu?
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo: you've the latest 3.2 kernel. but there's also a 3.5/3.8/3.11 kernel in the 12.04 repo
[16:22] <cjae> YOURBESTFRIEND: brainstorm
[16:23] <cjae> YOURBESTFRIEND: its a site unless its changed
[16:23] <teward> cjae: brainstorm was retired
[16:23] <cjae> oh
[16:23] <zetheroo1> is it stable to update the kernel?
[16:23] <cjae> fail
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: usually yes, but might be a good idea to image the drive first if its a production server
[16:24] <zetheroo1> it's just my local machine
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: you can easily switch back to an older kernel in the grub menu
[16:24] <zetheroo1> right
[16:24] <zetheroo1> how do I go about upgrading to the latest?
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: it could be helpful too if you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[16:25] <zetheroo1> one sec
[16:26] <jay_m> hi
[16:26] <jay_m> :)
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack this will describe how to move up to the quantal/raring/saucy stack
[16:26] <zetheroo1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6757006/
[16:27] <jay_m> hello
[16:27] <demoneye_> when should i install ubuntu 32 bit ? on mem less than 4 giga?
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: this is a laptop right?
[16:27] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: but if I do that isn't it like just installing 13.10?
[16:27] <zetheroo1> yes - laptop
[16:27] <zetheroo1> T440p Thinkpad
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: no. not the same as installing 13.10
[16:27] <strixUK> demoneye_: or when the hardware doesn't support 64 bit code; otherwise, there's no particular reason to use a 32-bit os these days.
[16:27] <Subroutine> ello, ive upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 due support end within two weeks. upgrade cleaned  /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart, but even i add xcreensaver & power-management manualy  they dont start automaticaly on stratup. i have added commands to ~./config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart instead, but where can i add  them for all users?
[16:28] <strixUK> demoneye_: NB: there are a few applications that need a 64-bit OS, even when there is less than 3 GB of memory (eg Varnish cache)
[16:28] <demoneye_> strixUK, : ok 10x , so its same as windows 4 giga limitation :)
[16:28] <demoneye_> strixUK, : 10x man :)
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: 3.2 kernel is from 2 years ago. while your processor (i5-4330M) came out a few months ago :)
[16:29] <strixUK> demoneye_: related, both are due to architectural limitations (2^32 = 4 GB, but you have to allow for kernel and memory mapped IO which, conventionally is 1 GB)
[16:29] <demoneye_> nice  2 know
[16:29] <Jay> hi all
[16:30] <Jay> vmware ubuntu installation problem
[16:30] <Jay> please help anybody
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: enabling the saucy stack should help. you may also need to add nomodeset to the grub config
[16:30] <YOURBESTFRIEND> where do I suggest new features/changes to ubuntu?
[16:30] <Jay> showing dual desktop
[16:30] <jay_m> YOURBESTFRIEND:  I think on the forums
[16:30] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND: log a blueprint
[16:31] <brainX> what is the shortcut to go 1 directory up in the filemanager...its not backspace..
[16:31] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND: make sure you've thought it through
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> brainX: ..
[16:31] <YOURBESTFRIEND> what if it's just a little improvment?
[16:31] <jay_m> page up?
[16:31] <jay_m> I assume/
[16:32] <jay_m> or the up arrow key
[16:32] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I want to be able to hide my porn from the dash, for example
[16:32] <filosofixit> I'm using 13.10 and my menubar is acting weird; Every item in the menubar is greyed out so I'm unable to use it. However the context menu when I right-click is working... Does anyone have a sollution?
[16:32] <YOURBESTFRIEND> (serious)
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> brainX: is this in nautilus do you mean?
[16:32] <brainX> jep
[16:32] <brainX> earlier it was backspace
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: put it somewhere where it wont get indexed then
[16:32] <brainX> doesn t work
[16:33] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hitsujiTMO: it's in a hidden folder…
[16:33] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: which one is Saucy?
[16:33] <YOURBESTFRIEND> WHY would hidden folders get indexed?
[16:33] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: I see commands for quantal and raring
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> brainX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289535/bring-back-backspace-keyboard-shortcuts-on-nautilus-and-thunar
[16:33] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND: because they are still folders
[16:33] <YOURBESTFRIEND> ikonia: but are supposed to be hidden!
[16:33] <teward> YOURBESTFRIEND: but it's a folder inside a folder that is indexed, so the system will still index it, so you'd have to move the entire hidden folder elsewhere outside of a folder that is indexed
[16:33] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND: no, they are not
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: same commands, just replace quantal or raring for saucy
[16:34] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: ok ... is saucy 13.10?
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: yes
[16:35] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I wish we could mix unity and gnome 3
[16:35] <brainX> thx hitsu...
[16:35] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: ok ... it installing :)
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: instead of putting it into ~/Videos try putting it into ~/.DonkeyPornCollection
[16:36] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hitsujiTMO: I just symlinked it to ~/Videos/.porn, it's actually on another drive
[16:36] <YOURBESTFRIEND> so I just remove the symlink? lol
[16:36] <YOURBESTFRIEND> WHY can't I just add an exception for that folder?
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: dont symlink it there as ~/Videos gets indexed
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: ok, if you want to blacklist the path: system settings -> security & privacy -> files     ad the path to the exclude list
[16:39] <user__> How can I remove the top panel (date/time, volume notifier, settings etc)?
[16:39] <zetheroo1> hitsujiTMO: hey thanks! after that and a reboot the gfx is working superb
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo1: sweet
[16:40] <lst22> hello, i'm wondering if this is an appropriate place to ask about a 12.04 LVM luks setup that used to work UNTIL normal update
[16:41] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hitsujiTMO: lol the whole thing crashed
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> lol
[16:41] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I can't click on the widgets anymore D;
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: relog. if you have a big enough porn collection then it could have been taking too long to remove the indexes
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: that or unity really doesn't want to hide your porn
[16:42] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hitsujiTMO: I'm not even there yet, I clicked on "+" to add an exception and the thing froze
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> ahh lol
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: yes
[16:46] <lst22> great. so i imagine the normal update has messed with update-initramfs or grub or /etc/crypttab or /etc/fstab or etc, but it freezes at "cryptsetup: .. set up successfully" after i enter the full-disk passphrase.
[16:46] <lst22> where should i start to debug? and how?
[16:47] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hitsujiTMO: how do I make it refresh the index?
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: would be an idea to boot a live cd. chroot in and re update the initramfs
[16:48] <user__> ls
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> YOURBESTFRIEND: that should force a refresh if its written propperly. you could maybe try renaming ~/.local/share/zeitgeist and see if that forces a reindex without breaking it
[16:49] <FarrisG> Any rinetd experts? For various resons, I have this one instance where I have to use rinetd to allow a client in one network to access postgres db in another network. Problem is it leaks connections. The clients only use about 50 connections a day, but rinetd doesn't properly close them all, so after a few weeks I have ~2000 open "ESTABLISHED" connections. Eventually i hit ulimit and die. Anything I can do to get rinetd to clean u
[16:49] <FarrisG> after itself?
[16:49] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: thanks. what will tell update-initramfs how to do things properly as the big update probably ran update-initramfs and that caused the problem?
[16:49] <lst22> looking up what update-initramfs does to see if manual editing of a line necessary..
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: could be a number of issues but there may be a log somewhere. is there any specific error when you get dropped to busybox or anything like that?
[16:52] <jogr> !nl
[16:55] <FourFire> Hello
[16:55] <FourFire> Just trying out 14.04 pre
[16:55] <somsip> !14.04 | FourFire
[16:55] <FourFire> somsip: , no I'm running it, right now
[16:56] <FourFire> it's different
[16:56] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: booting, will have to wait 3-5mins to see if it drops to busybox... i may have to try something like command, "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-686-pae" to list contents but not sure what it should include so let's try busybox first
[16:56] <somsip> FourFire: the main bit is 'support in #ubuntu+1'
[16:56] <FourFire> alrigt
[16:56] <FourFire> there was some issue with fonts or something
[16:56] <FourFire> kept it paused for quite some time
[16:57] <somsip> FourFire: support in #ubuntu+1...
[17:00] <FourFire> oh, right, thanks
[17:04] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: still waiting to see if busybox black screen appears.. maybe i need to change /etc/initramfs-tools/modules which may tell update-initramfs what to do?
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: what exactly are you getting stuck at so?
[17:05] <lst22> of course, not sure that initramfs is even the problem
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: have you tried booting without quiet and splash
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: you should be getting dropped to initramfs very quickly
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> if it was that being the issue
[17:07] <ImagineBreaker> Hey guys, got some X11 problems...
[17:07] <ImagineBreaker> NXclient closes with a MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE error
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> !details | ImagineBreaker
[17:07] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: hmm, i don't know how to do that. do i select that on my grub options, maybe "rescue" > "command line" and then some command to boot quiet and no splash?
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: in the grub menu hit e to edit the grub command. remove quiet splash    from the linux book line
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> boot*
[17:08] <lst22> so still no black screen, hangs on splash with message, "cryptsetup: lvm_crypt set up successfully" [lvm_crypt is my name and could be different]
[17:09] <lst22> ok, will try that e to edit. thanks!
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: that will dump dmesg to the screen
[17:10] <Ouija> Hello, I was hoping someone could help me with GNU Grub 2.00
[17:11] <Ouija> Every time I boot my computer it starts Grub
[17:12] <Ouija> How do I make it stop doing that?
[17:12] <Ouija> Or alternatively is there a way for me to tell grub to boot from a disk?
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Ouija: set its timeout to zero
[17:12] <Ouija> I have no idea how to use Grub, to be honest
[17:12] <Ouija> Could you tell me the command?
[17:13] <trijntje> Ouija: what exactly are you trying to do? Grub is needed to start ubuntu
[17:13] <gordonjcp> Ouija: you edit something like GRUB_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub
[17:13] <gordonjcp> and then run update-grub
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Ouija: edit the entry in /etc/default/grub and then run: sudo update-grub
[17:14] <gordonjcp> you might want GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT, I'm not sure
[17:15] <Ouija> What happened was I bought a new laptop with Windows 8 installed on it. I set it up to dual-boot Linux Mint 16 Cinnamon but when I tried to use it nothing worked. I couldn't connect to wifi or ethernet and my driver manager was empty
[17:15] <Ouija> So I went back to Windows 8 and deleted the partitions for Mint
[17:15] <gordonjcp> oh
[17:15] <Ouija> And then I got a bootable flash drive that had Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:15] <gordonjcp> !mint
[17:15] <Ubbu> Hello, I'd like to now if it's possible to have an Ubuntu which is based on Debian stable or it won't be habben ever.
[17:16] <trijntje> Ouija: were you connected to the internet  when you checked for drivers? Otherwise it won't show anything
[17:16] <Ouija> Mint isn't the problem. Mint isn't on the computer anymore
[17:16] <gordonjcp> Ubbu: Ubuntu and Debian aren't the same thing
[17:16] <Ubbu> I know
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> Ouija: you should ask in ##windows for how to fix the mbr or reset windows as the default in your uefi
[17:16] <gordonjcp> Ubbu: why not just run Debian Obsolescent^WStable?
[17:16] <Ubbu> That's why I ask
[17:16] <teward> Ubbu: short answer: use Lucid if you want something even remotely like that, or Precise even.
[17:16] <Ouija> The problem started when I tried to boot from the USB flash drive that had Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it
[17:16] <Ubbu> Because that is not so handy . Works by the way
[17:17] <teward> Ubbu: 12.04's the closest still-supported release to something like what you're looking for
[17:17] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: thanks for tip. so interesting fact, it successfully lets me login at tty command line but ctrl+alt+f7 does not load unity/gnome
[17:18] <Ubbu> I alwasy use LTS but sometimes breaks in a couple of huors sometimes a couple of days.
[17:18] <lst22> ctrl+alt+f7 lets me see boot messages and i see that KVM fails but i can't scroll up to see more
[17:18] <Ouija> As it is, I can't get out of Grub
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: maybe an issue with lightdm/X. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[17:19] <Ubbu> Is 10.04 more stable than 12.04?
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> Ubbu: 10.04 is not supported on desktop. use 12.04
[17:19] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: should i try unity-reset or reviewing xorg.conf or .xsession-errors or thing like that?
[17:19] <teward> Ubbu: 12.04 is just as stable as 10.04, and I say 12.04 because 10.04 desktop support is past end of life
[17:19] <teward> Ubbu: so if this is a desktop setup you should use 12.04 if you want it to be supported
[17:19] <teward> Ubbu: that's about as close to Debian Stable as you're going to get though
[17:20] <teward> (wiht Ubuntu anyways)
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: run the command i gave you above. it will generate a url that you can paste here which will contain your lightdm log
[17:20] <Ubbu> I know thats why I use 12.04 for two months now. I tried all versions. The Xubuntu was the most stable but after 5 days my Icons from the desktop dissapeared and the wallpaper also
[17:21] <teward> Ubbu: that's not related to stability, more likely some other issue, but 12.04's the oldest still supported release you're going to find, and that's as close to debian stable as you can get.
[17:21] <teward> Ubbu: short of actually using Debian stable, anyways.
[17:22] <Ubbu> I'll have a look at 14.04 in 3 moths. We'll see then
[17:22] <Ubbu> Thanks for your answers
[17:23] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: minor problem, do i need to set up wireless manually from tty CLI? it didn't resolve host so i think i'm not connected
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: ahh ok. have you a usb drive you can copy the log to and pastebinit from the machine you're using now? would be a good idea to also do /vat/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of dmesg too
[17:26] <liteIRC> Mandalord
[17:26] <liteIRC> Good morning this is Lucan again do know why this phone hasnyt used my name.
[17:26] <liteIRC> Back to yesterday issue
[17:26] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: where is dmesg stored? filename?
[17:26] <liteIRC> Your suggestion to nomodest works with booting USB for first time with persistence disk
[17:27] <liteIRC> But I had to pull hard drive to be wiped by other faster machine.
[17:27] <liteIRC> Now hdd is back in this machine and installing edubuntu :)
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: run: dmesg > dmesg.log
[17:29] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: ok, will get /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log, /vat/log/Xorg.0.log, and dmesg.log ...
[17:36] <liteIRC> Namecheck
[17:36] <liteIRC> No.
[17:37] <liteIRC> !name
[17:37] <Lucan> Perfect just remembered the old  irc commands. Perfect.
[17:37] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: i don't seem to have Xorg.0.log
[17:38] <lst22> oh, maybe var/log
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: yes all logs should be in /var/log
[17:39] <sona> Hello bro...
[17:43] <lst22> hisujiTMO: lightdm.log, http://pastebin.com/rgAzXAaW
[17:45] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: Xorg.o.log, http://pastebin.com/wTk4DqpJ
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: Can't launch X server X, not found in path <- is your problem        you're the second person i've seen with the exact same error in the last week
[17:46] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: dmesg.log, http://pastebin.com/38SQJACJ
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: try ls -l /usr/bin/X
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: try: ls -l /usr/bin/X
[17:47] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: being the second with that error is my lucky day =)
[17:47] <lst22> no such file or directory
[17:47] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: no such file or directory
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: something removed it. sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[17:49] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: with CLI, if i plug ethernet will i stil lhave to manually set up internet connection? that solution coud be very simple, but i'm CLI without internet right now
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: xserver-xorg is hopefully in your apt-archive so hopefully you dont need a net connection
[17:50] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: although maybe package is still on my computer??
[17:52] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: no go, must have deleted unused packages or something?? will move eth cable, lose this sonnection and try xserver-xorg download?
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: ethernet will hopefully work by just connecting it in
[17:57] <halothe23> .
[18:04] <nitk> how to logout from thunderbird
[18:05] <nitk> How to make thunderbird to detect my mail server which i have created
[18:05] <Rory> nitk: What is the overall goal? Have you succesfully set up your email account with Thunderbird?
[18:06] <nitk> Rory ,just now i created my own mail server..in my  laptop..now i want to make it work to send mails from it
[18:06] <halothe23> o.O
[18:07] <Rory> nitk: What did you use to create the mail server? Do you have your DNS records all set up?
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: does your isp block outgoing packets on port 25?
[18:07] <nitk> Rory
[18:07] <nitk> Pixelinx
[18:07] <nitk> Brain splurge from web people
[18:07] <nitk>     General
[18:07] <nitk>     Design
[18:07] <FloodBot1> nitk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <nitk>     Development
[18:10] <Rory> nitk: Please stop doing that, or the bot will keep muting you, and may eventually kick you
[18:10] <imperfectus> Antone around?
[18:10] <halothe23> Interesting bot tactics, haha
[18:10] <imperfectus> I seem to have fubar's my apt-stuff
[18:10] <teward> imperfectus: it's better to ask your actual question
[18:11] <teward> rather than to ask if anyone's around
[18:11] <imperfectus> I'm trying to completely remove postgres even though dpkg errors I just need to -totlly- remove it
[18:11] <imperfectus> autoremove,purge,apt-get -f
[18:11] <imperfectus> All of it fails
[18:11] <imperfectus> I've somehow completely fubar'd it
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: can you pastebin the full output of the command you're using to remove it
[18:12] <benbb> Hey guys. Does anyone know a decent system-wise EQ for PA?
[18:12] <benbb> pulseaudio-equalizer is distorted to hell.
[18:12] <imperfectus> hitsujiTMO: sure
[18:12] <Myrtti> nitk: FloodBots are bots, not humans
[18:12] <nitk> Myrtti, okay thank u
[18:13] <imperfectus> http://pastebin.com/E76Cb7MY
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: whats the output of: apt-cache policy postgresql-9.1
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: and output of: apt-cache policy postgresql-common
[18:16] <imperfectus> http://pastebin.com/sBN3DXmC
[18:16] <halothe23> How to hide join/leave messages?
[18:17] <davividal> hi. I'm trying to setup multiple vhosts on apache on 12.04, it works for some vhosts and breaks for another. How can I debug?
[18:17] <pBlack> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a Mac Desktop.
[18:17] <davividal> I already set up /etc/hosts and /etc/apache2/sites-available/hosts.conf
[18:18] <pBlack> I can get it installed.
[18:18] <pBlack> But I need the Broadcom Wireless drivers...
[18:18] <pBlack> This is a fresh install. :)
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: pastebin output of: ls -l /var/lib/postgresql/9.1
[18:22] <imperfectus> Doesn't exist.
[18:22] <Cigrits> Anyone know if its possible to make a multiseat terminal only linux box? By multiseat I mean one box with multiple users using there own keyboard mouse and monitor connected to the same computer.
[18:22] <imperfectus> Cigrits: Yep.
[18:22] <imperfectus> There's actually a project that does that though I dont remember the name
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: can you please describe how you got to this stage that the files are missing?
[18:23] <imperfectus> Trying to force remove to reinit the postgres install
[18:23] <Cigrits> really i need it to be headless and just use bardcode scanners for the keyboards
[18:24] <imperfectus> I think maybe the VM shutdown during a uninstall
[18:24] <jeffrey_f> halothe23: what app are you using for here?
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: maybe install --reinstall an then try again?
[18:25] <imperfectus> I'll giveit a shot
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> imperfectus: if that doesn't work you'll have to go thru the uninstall scripts and manually remove everything to get mack to a stable state
[18:26] <nutellagamer> salut a tous
[18:26] <imperfectus> if only i'd have taken a snapshot
[18:28] <Trybexus> how do I stop mountnfs.sh from running on boot?
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> Trybexus: remove the reference to it in the script that you call it from
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: any luck with that?
[18:33] <imperfectus> I'm ust going to start over w/ 12.04 LTS
[18:35] <nano666> Can anyone help me with (Lives) video editing software and omc midi commands for video effects?
[18:37] <brontosaurusrex> Cigrits, this looks like something to read http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Multiseat
[18:37] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: yayyyy!! many thanks!!! xserver-xorg was the one!!
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: sweet
[18:39] <yeyeman> why do they bother having a skype for linux when its completely broken
[18:39] <lst22> hitsujiTMO: that's the package name, right.. xserver-xorg??
[18:40] <chemist^> hello everyone... my network manager doesn't remember my wifi passwords after xfce installation...is there a way to get those saved wifi passwords back? i don't want to do a master reset on my router (again)
[18:41] <chemist^> i had them remembered in kde which used something like a wallet or smth...is there a way to access a file containing information about saved wifi networks?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> lst22: yup
[18:42] <lst22> thanks! adios!!
[18:43] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, would you know the answer to my question maybe? :) you usually do
[18:43] <dwarder> besides /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ where else could cron scripts be?
[18:44] <TJ-> Strange one here; 13.04 amd64 with virt-manager/libvirt/qemu/OVMF ... installing 14.04 from the desktop liveISO ... the VM keeps switching into 'pause' mode whilst the live installer is running :s
[18:48] <gacyne> anyone on pear  os?
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: look in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections maybe
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | gacyne
[18:49] <gacyne> pearos is ubuntu
[18:49] <DJones> gacyne: Unlikely as this channel supports the official Ubuntu releases,
[18:49] <DJones> gacyne: pearos isn't an official ubuntu release
[18:50] <DJones> gacyne: If you check their website, they should have details of their support options
[18:50] <gacyne> thats raciste
[18:51] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, i already found the password thanks anyway
[18:52] <beinhart> test
[18:52] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO,  what is the best gui application to upload files to my local server? using sftp or ssh... can files be sent over ssh anyway?
[18:53] <halothe23> chemist^: FileZilla is a decently good, and popular one.
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: sending files over sftp is over ssh. you can use nautilus or filezilla
[18:53] <chemist^> oh ok
[18:53] <halothe23> Or CyberDuck if your on Mac, very nice app.
[18:54] <chemist^> what about from terminal... do i actually need those gui applications?
[18:54] <halothe23> You can use the SFTP command
[18:54] <biggdadd73> Hello everyone...quick question. I just install Server 12.04.3 but I am unable to "sudo agt-get" anything...no updates, can't install software.  Anyone know what the problem might be?
[18:54] <chemist^> ok i'll check out the manual
[18:54] <chemist^> thanks halothe23, hitsujiTMO
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: sftp from terminal
[18:54] <biggdadd73> sudo "APT-GET" not agt-get
[18:56] <chemist^> i need to specify the remote target path or is there a default path to which the files are going to be uploaded?
[18:56] <Ubuntu-tester> just woundering when 14.04 comes out do they start workin on 14.10?
[18:57] <Myrtti> Ubuntu-tester: third Thursday of April, as per 14 (as in 2014) .04 (April)
[18:58] <Myrtti> Ubuntu-tester: and yes, usually right after the new one is announced
[18:58] <abailarri> Hello. I have a laptop with ubuntu and misteriously I can't start. I get the error: No such partition, grub rescue. I not do anything with the pc, the error appeared me strangly. What can I do?
[18:58] <Ubuntu-tester> lol i know ima actually usin Ubuntu 14.04 LTS -Alpha 1 right now
[18:59] <samyr> something similar happened to me abailarri
[18:59] <Ubuntu-tester> they surely done a amzing job on 14.04  sure is worth it if ya like gaming and new themes looks and all
[18:59] <Ubuntu-tester> surely is worth getting when it comes out
[19:00] <goog> How can I bypass y or n question from "ufw enable" command for unattended case?
[19:01] <chemist^> ufw doesn't ask me any question when i type enable
[19:01] <goog> chemist^: i envy you
[19:01] <samyr> I tried to use my laptop too. I have the ubuntu 12.04 LTS. But always when I turn on my computer I have in sequence: "boot" then the computer goes straight to the BIOS O.o
[19:02] <goog> "Command may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation (y|n)?" this is what i get
[19:02] <chemist^> oh that
[19:02] <chemist^> well if you're not connected with ssh it won't ask you
[19:02] <chemist^> what did you mean by: unattended case?
[19:03] <Pebbe> I just love the feeling of success when I finally make stuff work :3
[19:03] <samyr> when I tried to put the cd of boot, what happen is: "boot"-> grub-> the SO doesn't load
[19:03] <goog> maybe that wasn't the right term to use but i want to send in that command and want it to run automatically. ansible for example
[19:04] <chemist^> goog, if you won't be connected with ssh to the server at that moment, it won't ask any questions...it will just enable itself
[19:04] <samyr> I really don't know what I have to do
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> goog: what exactly is ufw asking?
[19:04] <goog> "Command may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation (y|n
[19:05] <goog> if i use ansible for example, it uses ssh to run commands
[19:06] <samyr> anybody?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> goog: try: yes | ufw enable
[19:06] <goog> hitsujiTMO: i think it worked!
[19:07] <krabador> hi people, i need to know if gruz ppa, for canon printer, are working on 13.10
[19:07] <goog> hitsujiTMO: can i call you genius?
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> goog: lol
[19:07] <goog> hitsujiTMO: you know i'm not kidding
[19:07] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, is there a way to use publickey auth with filezilla?
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: yes you can add a key in the settings
[19:09] <samyr> is this a hardware problem?
[19:09] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, i can't remember where i put it ;D
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NQp613llRA
[19:10] <chemist^> i found it
[19:10] <chemist^> in /etc/ssh/
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> samyr: try verifying the md5 of the iso you downloaded first
[19:12] <samyr> It worked well when I tried on another computer
[19:12] <urielvigilant> how to install Nokuntu on lubuntu ? i tried : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/mobile  then :  sudo apt-get update and then  sudo apt-get install obextool nokuntusp ! it doens work
[19:13] <chemist^> oh no wait that's on the server...what about locally? where is it?
[19:13] <urielvigilant> i also tryed download .deb and then sudo dpkg -i    filenme.deb
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[19:13] <Myrtti> urielvigilant: what phone are you trying to use with it?
[19:13] <chemist^> lol yes
[19:13] <chemist^> found it again ;D
[19:14] <Myrtti> urielvigilant: "I have no time to develop it!" - not surprised if it doesn't work
[19:14] <samyr> I think the iso is working
[19:14] <goog> genius
[19:14] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, it's the id_rsa or the id_rsa.pub?
[19:14] <urielvigilant> alternatives to nokia suit to update the phone firmware ?
[19:14] <chemist^> that should be added to filezilla?
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: id_rsa
[19:14] <chemist^> k tnx
[19:15] <goog> genius~
[19:15] <chemist^> yeeey finally i'm in ;)
[19:16] <goog> chemist^: can you let me in too?
[19:16] <halothe23> lol
[19:19] <Steve_McQuack> Anyone know what to do about this?
[19:19] <abailarri> samfty, do you rescue the grub?
[19:19] <Steve_McQuack> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2785467/xubuntu%20pls.png
[19:19] <Steve_McQuack> I've gotten the same error on multiple Xubuntu installers and Ubuntu as well now
[19:19] <chemist^> goog, of course
[19:20] <chemist^> goog try password: "admin"
[19:20] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Have you done a memtest on the RAM ?
[19:20] <Steve_McQuack> RAM is fine
[19:20] <Steve_McQuack> On alternate install CDs
[19:20] <Steve_McQuack> the error happens right when I attempt to detect RAID partitions
[19:20] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Are you using disks or USB ?
[19:21] <Steve_McQuack> I've tried it on disks and
[19:21] <Steve_McQuack> am doing loop booted HDD ISOs right now
[19:21] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: It'd be good to rule out badly written ISO images; I assume you've checked the MD5sums match those listed for the image downloads?
[19:21] <Steve_McQuack> yes
[19:21] <Steve_McQuack> no problem with the images
[19:22] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: what kind of RAID?
[19:22] <Steve_McQuack> RAID0
[19:22] <Steve_McQuack> uh, on-board BIOS RAID
[19:22] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: provided by hardware? OK. And that weird dialog always pops up at the same time?
[19:22] <Steve_McQuack> yes
[19:23] <Steve_McQuack> It's not a dedicated RAID controller but those motherboard chipset-based ones
[19:23] <Beldar> !who | Steve_McQuack
[19:23] <crazyty> hello
[19:23] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Are you able to use the Crash Reporter to send a bug report ?
[19:23] <goog> chemist^: it's not working. are you sure it's the right password?
[19:23] <Steve_McQuack> No I don't think so
[19:23] <Steve_McQuack> let me try again though
[19:23] <crazyty> i have some questions about ubuntu and partitioning
[19:23] <crazyty> can any1 help ?
[19:24] <Myrtti> crazyty: just ask your question here on the channel and maybe someone can
[19:24] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: If you're able to gather the logs that way and report the bug it'll be much easier to figure out what is going on
[19:24] <Myrtti> difficult to know without knowing your question
[19:25] <crazyty> Myrtti
[19:25] <chemist^> goog should be, try iamstupid ;)
[19:25] <Steve_McQuack> Well, crash reporter isn't popping up on this version of Xubuntu anyway
[19:25] <crazyty> so my question is
[19:25] <Steve_McQuack> think this one is whatever the latest version is
[19:25] <Pici> !enter
[19:25] <Steve_McQuack> 1310
[19:25] <Steve_McQuack> 13.10
[19:25] <Beldar> Steve_McQuack, Please use use nicks
[19:25] <Steve_McQuack> {:  o-okay
[19:25] <crazyty> I installed ubuntu 12.04 lts on one partition and i have one other ntfs from windows
[19:26] <goog> chemist^: /usr/bin/yes
[19:26] <crazyty> now how can i convert that ntfs to ext4, save data and mount it to my home directory /
[19:26] <Steve_McQuack> TJ- No, the crash reported doesn't pop up when I try this on 13.10.
[19:26] <Beldar> crazyty, Save data in what sense, is it a OS, or just data?
[19:27] <Pici> crazyty: you can't do an in-place conversion from ntfs to ext4. You would need to copy your data somewhere elese first and then restore it.
[19:27] <Myrtti> crazyty: copying all the data you want to be saved somewhere else and reformat it. There's no way of changing the filesystem with the files intact.
[19:27] <SchrodingersScat> crazyty: move data to new partition, erase ntfs, create ext4, move data back
[19:27] <crazyty> if i had a place for the data would be good
[19:27] <crazyty> but since i dont have i am looking for other options
[19:28] <crazyty> if i use disk utility and Edit Partition to ext4
[19:28] <crazyty> will again erase it ?
[19:28] <Myrtti> crazyty: there is no other way
[19:28] <crazyty> just edit no format
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> crazyty: shrink partition, make new small partition, move what you can, resize, move, resize, move, resize?
[19:28] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-  The installer feeds that error out but I can still click the Quit button, so it doesn't lock up entirely.  Dunno if that helps.
[19:28] <crazyty> yes i have that in plan b
[19:28] <crazyty> with resizing
[19:29] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: You'd need to read installer logs and send them manually I think. Can't remember exactly which ones but I think it'll be something like "/var/log/install???/*"
[19:29] <Steve_McQuack> /var/log/installer/
[19:30] <Steve_McQuack> two files, "debug" and "version"
[19:30] <SchrodingersScat> crazyty: yeah, sounds like a last resort, but if you really have no where else to place the data, enjoy your loop.
[19:30] <Steve_McQuack> There doesn't seem to be anything helpful in either, but I can past what's in "debug"
[19:30] <Steve_McQuack> paste, if that's all right in this channel
[19:31] <Pici> Steve_McQuack: Please use a pastebin
[19:31] <Steve_McQuack> oh okay
[19:32] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-  This is all that's there in "debug"  http://pastebin.com/ZvdX5sip     The other file just reads ubiquity 2.15.26
[19:32] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: If it doesn't look useful, then we need to find a different log ... I wonder if there is a "/var/log/ubiquity/*" - Ubiquity is the name of the GUI installer
[19:32] <Steve_McQuack> No /ubiquity/ folder
[19:33] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: It's not being very helpful! Can you use your brains to spot any other likely log? I find that "ls -latr /var/log/" helps to order things most-recently-changed last
[19:34] <Steve_McQuack> I'm not a linux expert but I'll try -_-
[19:35] <Erzi> Hi!
[19:35] <Erzi> Kann mir jemand mit upstart helfen?
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> Erzi: hello
[19:35] <Pici> !de | Erzi
[19:36] <Erzi> k
[19:36] <Erzi> sorry
[19:39] <Steve_McQuack> TJ- Would you like to see my kern.log, partman, syslog, or  apport.log?
[19:39] <Steve_McQuack> Those seem to be all the relevant logs modified when the installer runs and fails
[19:40] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Yes, that would help.
[19:41] <Steve_McQuack> Which file?  All of them?
[19:42] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Yes please.
[19:44] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-  Here's my syslog  http://pastebin.com/8hLkTpPJ   The last attempt to run the installer starts at 19:35
[19:45] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-  likewise for my kern.log:  http://pastebin.com/2aX3vZfm
[19:47] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-  partman:  http://pastebin.com/40DfpKSs   I dunno if anything useful can be gleamed from that since there's no time stamps
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: looks like errors with the controller
[19:48] <Steve_McQuack> and finally my apport.log  http://pastebin.com/Vb31J44C
[19:49] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, how can I connect to a pppoe connection using terminal?
[19:50] <mtnbkr> Hi Ubuntu people!  Gentoo person here. :)    is there a unbuntu tool to have it check its installed packages against a known-vulnerable list of packages and email a report?
[19:50] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Thanks... I almost lost control there - a VM locked up my GUI - but seem to be OK now... I'll take a look
[19:51] <jiffe> grub seems to not have a countdown if the first boot process is interrupted
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: TJ- lots of end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 1848728333 in syslog
[19:52] <kieppie> hi folks
[19:52] <Steve_McQuack> sdc is another one of my HDDs, it is not part of the RAID array
[19:52] <Steve_McQuack> My RAID0 array consists of sda and sdb
[19:52] <kieppie> I'm having trouble with the fglrx* drivers for my laptop
[19:52] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: You have a failing hard drive: "Buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 1848728331" "Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed"  Looks to be "WDC WD10EARS-00Y"
[19:53] <MarkDavies> Hi. I have the following problem: I can't connect Ubuntu to wi-fi if any other computer is connected to wi-fi. I use Ubuntu 12.04. Can somebody help me?
[19:53] <Steve_McQuack> wat
[19:53] <Steve_McQuack> I doubt that
[19:53] <kieppie> I need it to get the hybrid disply to function properly
[19:53] <Steve_McQuack> Maybe that's a side effect from loop booting
[19:53] <kieppie> MarkDavies: probably a driver issue
[19:53] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: I doubt that... the error is coming directly from the drive
[19:53] <nitk> what is this error :::sudo: unable to resolve host nitk-OptiPlex-9010
[19:53] <kieppie> depends on hardware, chipset, etc
[19:53] <Steve_McQuack> If it's finally this is news to me
[19:54] <MarkDavies> kieppie: how can I fix it? I use network-manager, all the standard configuration.
[19:54] <Steve_McQuack> I use it regularly and it seems healthy
[19:54] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: " auto reallocate failed" means the drive is trying and failing to reallocate bad sectors, probably because it has run out of spares
[19:54] <Steve_McQuack> if it's failing*
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: thats usually controller or driver failure
[19:54] <kieppie> MarkDavies: short answer is you should check the wiki/docco's
[19:54] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: have the cables or drive been physically touched? maybe its a link problem
[19:54] <Steve_McQuack> well regardless, sdc is not the drive I'm trying to install linux to
[19:55] <kieppie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> s/driver/device
[19:55] <Steve_McQuack> and this problem occurs whether loop booting or using disk, so I don't think it's related
[19:55] <kieppie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[19:55] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: That fault will cause the drive-scanning logic in the installer to fail
[19:55] <Steve_McQuack> or using CD*
[19:55] <nitk> what is this error :::sudo: unable to resolve host nitk-OptiPlex-9010
[19:55] <Steve_McQuack> well gee whiz, should I trying disconnecting my sdc HDD then?
[19:55] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: unplug that disk, and try again. If you still get the error, open a bug report
[19:55] <Steve_McQuack> all right
[19:56] <MarkDavies> if any other computer is connected, it can't even see that there are wireless networks around.
[19:56] <Steve_McQuack> I'll be back, might be a while though
[19:56]  * TJ- is off too ... whilst the going is good!
[19:58] <TriBeCa99> Hi all. I am trying to install 12.04 LTS on a new server board. I'm using the desktop install as it will be a workstation, not an actual server. I'm installing via a USB DVD drive. The load screen hangs, then punts to a text screen which includes theline "Starting restore sound card(s') mixer state(s)    [fail]". There is no onboard sound on this board, and currently no PCIe card either.
[19:58] <kieppie> anyone able to assist fir video driver issue, please - fglrx*
[19:58] <TriBeCa99> Any idea how to get past this?
[19:59] <gordonjcp> TriBeCa99: how long did you leave it?
[19:59] <MoPac> Hello. I'm trying to prepare some bugs for upstream reporting, which seems to involve using kdump to capture the Oops. I'm having some trouble with installation/configuration via https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt .  There is a step that involves checking a ".config" file for the kernel, and I'm not sure what directory I actually need to be in.
[20:00] <kieppie> TriBeCa99: for me, I usually do my installs with the mini.iso in 'expert' mode, so that everything is current & targeted
[20:00] <liteIRC> Kieppr what ati card
[20:01] <TriBeCa99> kieppie: I haven't used that before. I'm no linux guru--is it fairly straightforward?
[20:01] <roothorick> I want to set up my synaptics touchpad to be used ONLY for buttons, not mouse movement
[20:01] <roothorick> how do I do that?
[20:02] <kieppie> TriBeCa99: pretty much, provided you have an OK wired connection, as it pulls all the packages from the online repo's/cache - otherwise you can probably use the "alternate" distro's, as that s somewhat like the mini.iso but with some core/basic/common backages included on the image
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: this should get you the info you need https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[20:03] <kieppie> roothorick: look for `synaptiks` package
[20:03] <TriBeCa99> i can't get online until I can get into ifconfig to get the LAN MAC address and register it with IT
[20:03] <nitk> hola...how to fix this error ::::unable to resolve host nitk-OptiPlex-9010
[20:03] <Lucan> I have hd4670 for ago if this helps with your situation on using fglrx *, kieppie
[20:04] <roothorick> hitsujiTMO: synclient tells me my touchpad doesn't have the TouchpadOff property
[20:04] <Lucan> Agp
[20:04] <TriBeCa99> kieppie: I guess I'l try the alternate disc then
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: add """127.0.1.1 nitk-OptiPlex-9010""" to /etc/hosts
[20:05] <kieppie> Hi Lucan. My laptop had a 'hybrid' graphics card, so I need to instal the binary drivers to fix the power issues
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: then what you want may not be possible. maybe look at the xorg conf section
[20:05] <nitk> hitsujiTMO, it is same..not changed
[20:06] <gunna_88> hi my asus zenbook is missing drivers for wifi and for the usb adapter => no network :( where do I start?
[20:06] <Lucan> I had the problem with installing and using the X for Radeon X1300 chip of dell inspiron 6400 (E1505). I was running on both versions of linuxes...
[20:06] <kieppie> I've (re-)removed all drivers & using stock now, but when I install fglrx, fglrx-amdcccle, fglrx-pxpress, it fails to start the desktop. starts the login screen, but not unity or gnome-shell
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> nitk: maybe try: 127.0.1.1 nitk-OptiPlex-9010 nitk-optiplex-9010
[20:07] <Lucan> OpenSUSE 10.1 and Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. I remembered Gusty Fawn 7.04 wasn't working with it nicely in few years ago. Now I believe it should be noticeably improvement with supports.
[20:08] <Lucan> Mandalord are u idle?
[20:08] <gunna_88> hi my asus zenbook is missing drivers for wifi and for the usb adapter => no network :( where do I start?
[20:08] <Lucan> kieppie I will look up
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: pastebin putput of: lspci -nn && lsusb
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> output*
[20:09] <roothorick> hitsujiTMO: well I got TouchpadOff to work but it disabled the buttons to, so now I can't click at all :/ I guess I can't have everything
[20:09] <Steve_McQuack> hope I'm in the right channel again
[20:09] <roothorick> *too
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: :(
[20:09] <Lucan> https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=1urWUs68BKTj2AWvm4DgBQ&url=http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers&cd=1&ved=0CCkQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNFitGjUz_ksRU1yY2u63LyjQxNxbA&sig2=VCwi0-VwBCKb2JBaJQ16-g
[20:09] <Lucan> kieppie
[20:09] <Lucan> Did u follow this
[20:09] <FloodBot1> Lucan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:10] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO - the laptop has no network.
[20:10] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-  it seems to have worked.  I really don't think my storage driving is failing though.
[20:10] <kieppie> Lucan: sweet dude. thanks. will give that a go
[20:10] <Steve_McQuack> Shame I can't loop boot like this now
[20:10] <Steve_McQuack> Back to using CDs
[20:11] <Lucan> If not report back. I just started too.. It just takes knowledge how to Google for the answer :)
[20:11] <Lucan> I am glad to be part of this community too
[20:11] <Lucan> So welcome too
[20:11] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I could tell you what it says, USB Enhanced Controller
[20:12] <Lucan> Anyone has issue with Ubuntu on via chipsets?
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: is usb working at all?
[20:12] <Lucan> Looking for experiences
[20:12] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO good question, thinking of a way to find out
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: any output of?: lsusb
[20:13] <gunna_88> oh i see usb is working, connected my cell phone and it shows in nautilus
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: lspci -nn && lsusb > ~/output.txt                        copy ~/output.txt to a usb and pastebin it from another comp
[20:14] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO good idea! Thx, will try
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: sorry, that command should be: lspci -nn > ~/output.txt && lsusb >> ~/output.txt
[20:16] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok
[20:18] <Steve_McQuack> What should I choose for Mount point when selecting a partition for Ubuntu installation again?
[20:18] <Steve_McQuack>   there's /, /boot, and some other options
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: / rot the main partition
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: / for the main partition
[20:19] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO https://gist.github.com/gunnarahlberg/8443750
[20:19] <gibbs> Is it possible to restrict an SSH key to a certain command without limiting its parameters? For example something like: from="192.168.1.2",command="rsync *"
[20:19] <Steve_McQuack> this isn't going to be my main partition
[20:19] <Steve_McQuack> or do you mean main versus swap partition
[20:20] <rww> Steve_McQuack: what /is/ it going to be?
[20:20] <Steve_McQuack> I'm dual booting Windows with Linux
[20:20] <rww> Steve_McQuack: ah. they meant your main Linux partition
[20:20] <Steve_McQuack> ah okay so / then
[20:20] <Steve_McQuack> thanks
[20:24] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO could you make out what's in the gist?
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: looking now
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:25] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Once you've got an installed system - or from the LiveISO - make sure package "smartmontools" is installed, and then do "sudo smartctl -i /dev/sdc" (replace sdc with the current device node for that drive if it has changed). That will reveal the drive's internal state and any error log (assuming SMART is enabled in the drive)
[20:25] <Steve_McQuack> You know what, I think I remember needing to disconnect my storage drive last time I tried this 6 months ago
[20:26] <gunna_88> 12.10
[20:26] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO 12.10
[20:26] <Steve_McQuack> all right I'll try that, thanks
[20:26] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO 12.10, and probably not updated in a couple of months
[20:26] <Free99> hey everyone. I'm trying to write a script that will email on a RAID error, problem is the mail sender is too simple (ssmtp) to send to multiple people simultaneously (or is it?)
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: is it a usb wifi adapter or the onboard atheros wifi adapter?
[20:27] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO onboard
[20:28] <TJ-> gibbs: Yes, it is. You define restrictions in the ssh server user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys entry for the SSH client. See "man authorized_keys" and the section "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT" and sub-section on the "command" option
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: can you try: sudo modprobe -rfv ath9k && sudo modprobe -v ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[20:29] <Subroutine> i've asked this earlier, but didt get any help. i've upgraded Lubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and I have following problem:
[20:30] <Free99> Does anyone have a solution for sending an email to multiple addresses without the complexity/attack surface of exim or sendmail?
[20:30] <Subroutine> my original /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart was cleaned, but even i add any commands into it, it doesnt run automatically on startup. i've used ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart instead, but where can i put startup commands for all users?
[20:30] <gibbs> TJ-: thanks
[20:30] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO of course, may take a while to get it right :)
[20:31] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO actually, I'll copy it to the usb and switch back
[20:31] <TJ-> Free99: "telnet mail-server.domain.tld 25"  ?
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: if that works then we'll need to make some changes to make it permanent
[20:32] <Free99> TJ-, thanks but.. was hoping to just make something in /etc/aliases or something for distribution
[20:32] <Free99> I mean I don't really know tbh, I'm used to using ssmtp for when it's just one user (me) who needs notification
[20:33] <TJ-> Free99: what's the objection to sendmail/postfix?
[20:34] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO interesting "FATAL: Module ath9k not found"
[20:35] <Free99> TJ-, setuid binaries and plus this is on a VM host, trying to keep it light and tight
[20:35] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO there were some WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf line 44: ignoring bad line starting with 'd-4' but alsa is for sound, right?
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: yes
[20:37] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO "FATAL: Module ath9k not found" -> what to do ?
[20:38] <TJ-> gunna_88: which kernel version? 3.5.0-45-generic?
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: whats the output of this on its own: sudo modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[20:39] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO "FATAL: Module ath9k not found"
[20:39] <Free99> TJ-, well thanks anyhow
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: whats output of: uname -a
[20:40] <gunna_88> TJ- yes, 3.5.0-41
[20:41] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO Linux gunnar-UX31E 3.5.0-41-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 11 15:36:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:41] <TJ-> Free99: I didn't know sendmail got installed suid? It isn't on my systems.
[20:41] <roothorick> can Ubuntu do secure boot yet?
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: since 12.04
[20:42] <TJ-> gunna_88: "find /lib/modules`uname -r` -type f -iname 'ath*' | pastebinit"
[20:42] <roothorick> hitsujiTMO: I know 12.04 can do UEFI but I don't know about secure boot...
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: it should have a shim for secure boot
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO>  gunna_88: TJ-: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -type f -iname 'ath*' > ~/output.txt
[20:43] <roothorick> a "shim"?
[20:44] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: hahaha yes... pastebinit isn't much help is it? :p
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: and you missed a / :P
[20:45] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO and TJ file or directory does not exist (my translation from swedish)
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: a bootstrap shim signed by microsoft
[20:45] <roothorick> doesn't that kinda... defeat the point?
[20:45] <roothorick> I guess I'll run UEFI w/o secure boot then
[20:45] <gunna_88> TJ- i tried again, there was a / missing in there
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: dpkg --get-selections | grep firmware > ~/output.txt
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: if you want to boot a signed kernel then you'll have to self sign it and put your own key into the uefi
[20:47] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO linux-firmware             install
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: just the 1 result?
[20:47] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO your Linux voodoo is way above my leage :)
[20:47] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO yes
[20:48] <TJ-> roothorick: if you're interested... see https://iam.tj/projects/misc/UEFI.png
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: try installing this .deb http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/l/linux-firmware-nonfree/linux-firmware-nonfree_1.14ubuntu1_all.deb
[20:49]  * TJ- thinks his dinner was laced with something strong
[20:49] <Lucan> Oh yeah?
[20:49] <Lucan> What is it
[20:50] <Lucan> Feeling woozy, yet?
[20:50] <roothorick> hitsujiTMO: so if the system is EFI capable, the target disk is already set up with GPT, and it's a 64bit live installer, it'll automatically set up as UEFI, right?
[20:51] <roothorick> oh, it's win8 style
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: as long as your booting the installer as uefi.
[20:51] <roothorick> the live environment needs to run under UEFI
[20:51] <roothorick> just like win7/8
[20:51] <roothorick> I *think* it did...
[20:51] <roothorick> honestly this laptop is so new it may not have legacy/MBR support
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: yes, usually the boot manager gives you an option of uefi or bios
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: i've yet to see a system that doesn't have some sort of legacy boot
[20:53] <roothorick> This is my first time handpicking a system specifically to run Linux and so far I'm very pleased with the results
[20:53] <Steve_McQuack> Hello, how can I force GRUB to install on a fakeraid partition?
[20:53] <Steve_McQuack> The installer kept failing but I've managed to boot this xubuntu install via Super GRUB2 Disk
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: you could install efibootmgr on the live cd and run it with sudo so see if it can read the info from the efi boot manager
[20:54] <PatrickDickey> roothorick: what brand of system is it?
[20:54] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO my .deb foo is rusty.. package central opened the file, and "install" is disabled. "An older version is available ..."
[20:54] <roothorick> PatrickDickey: Lenovo. It's the only manuf I've found that actually lists specific models for their WiFi
[20:54] <Ackis> the openvas package in ubuntu is outdated by a couple versions correct? (I've been looking for an updated package)
[20:55] <Paolon> ciao
[20:55] <roothorick> (and even then, only on certain systems, mostly just ThinkPads which is what I bought)
[20:55] <Paolon> !list
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: copy it to the system and: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[20:55] <roothorick> It came with Win8 Pro but I swapped out the drive for an SSD
[20:55] <PatrickDickey> In BIOS, you might have something called "CSM" That's the legacy mode. I know in my Toshiba, it's under System Configuration, but not in the same area as the Secure Boot settings.
[20:56] <roothorick> PatrickDickey: honestly I'd rather run in UEFI
[20:56] <roothorick> it's time we killed the MBR
[20:56] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO great
[20:56] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: ensure that "dmraid" module is in the initrd.img and that the fstab refers to the file-system containing /boot/ by its UUID, or DM (device mapper) name.
[20:56] <gunna_88> ok, I
[20:56] <roothorick> proper secure boot would be nice but I know that's not really doable
[20:56] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok, I tried again the commands above?
[20:56] <PatrickDickey> roothorick: Well, if it will boot and install, then go with UEFI. I ended up having to install the Alpha for Trusty on mine.
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: start with: sudo modprobe ath9k
[20:57] <genii> Steve_McQuack: eg: put the raid module names in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules   and sudo update-initramfs -u
[20:58] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO sorry, not found
[20:58] <roothorick> PatrickDickey: that's actually what I'm installing now. I'd like that it's a bleeding edge alpha now but will become an LTS
[20:59] <TJ-> roothorick: PatrickDickey lost his connection
[20:59] <roothorick> oh oops
[20:59] <roothorick> oh well
[20:59] <Steve_McQuack> That's a lot of lingo @_@
[20:59] <Steve_McQuack> How do I do all that TJ-?
[20:59] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -type f -iname 'ath*' returns empty
[20:59] <TJ-> roothorick: You might want to join #ubuntu+1 ... we've been discussing an apparent bug in the UEFI installer of 14.04 that results in no UEFI boot menu entry being added :)
[20:59] <roothorick> hm... "Intel AT Module"
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: sudo find / -name ath9k* > ~/ath9k.txt
[21:00] <roothorick> I wonder what kind of OS-level support that requires
[21:00] <mtnbkr> I asked earlier but did not receive a reply, just re-asking (busy, scrolling channel too :)
[21:00] <mtnbkr> Hi Ubuntu people!  Gentoo person here. :)    is there a unbuntu tool to have it check its installed packages against a known-vulnerable list of packages and email a report?
[21:01] <bhut> greetings
[21:01] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO found them in /lib/modules/3.2.0-53-generic and 3.5.0-40-generic
[21:01] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: When the system has fakeraid the individual devices are still seen by the kernel. The dmraid driver then creates a device-mapper node for the drives/partitions based on the fakeraid meta-data on the disks. So lets say you have /dev/sda and /devsdb which makeup /dev/mapper/fakeraid1, you have to ensure that GRUB and the file-system table (/etc/fstab) uses /dev/mapper/fakeraid1's identity
[21:02] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I guess that another kernel is installed and should have been loaded?
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: seems it built for your previous kernel but not current. odd
[21:02] <roothorick> oh joy. This BIOS has the Computrace rootkit. At least I can turn it off.
[21:02] <Steve_McQuack> Okay but what do I do exactly?
[21:03] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO so, I looked for /boot/initrd.img-3* and the corresponding versions are there
[21:03] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO maybe a kernel upgrade failed?
[21:04] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: At install time, you make sure you tell the installer to use the /dev/mapper/ node of the fakeraid. If you don't see it, that means the driver isn't loaded that supports that fakeraid and you'll need to manually load it
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: you're on 41 so it shouldn't have failed
[21:04] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: It is such a long time since I had to work with fakeraid and an installer I can't tell you the precise steps needed now.
[21:04] <Steve_McQuack> Yeah I did that TJ-, GRUB just fails to install anyway though
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: unless you're missing the headers maybe
[21:05] <oxmox> hi i have a problem with ahci. hdparm  -B says APM_level not supportet pc is an i3 on an asrock bord intel b75 chipset
[21:05] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: In the installer, at the stage where you can set the grub options, do you select the fakeraid device node ?
[21:05] <Steve_McQuack> yes
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: try: dpkg --get-selections | grep `uname -r`
[21:06] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I checked /usr/src
[21:06] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I checked /usr/src and headers are there for 3.5.0-40 and 3.5.0-40-generic
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: but not 41?
[21:07] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO no
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: try: dpkg --get-selections | grep `uname -r`
[21:08] <Steve_McQuack> What's a linux screenshot -> upload to internet utility
[21:08] <_Myself> glitsj16 are you there ?
[21:08] <Steve_McQuack> I use Gyazo on Windows but the linux version of that seems to be only made for Debian
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: thats the backtick ` in the above command btw
[21:08] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: as long as that setting points to the fakeraid GRUB (and the initrd) should be configured correctly
[21:09] <Guest42784> In file permission the numbers what are they called, binary, or octals, what?
[21:09] <k1l> !away > MomoNasty
[21:09] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok, that says linux-image-3.5.0-41-generic
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: but no header?
[21:09] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-:  No I mean, GRUB literally fails to install at that step, it tells you so
[21:09] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO no header
[21:10] <jonathan__> join zanet.org.za
[21:10] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO is this what I'm missing ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/linux-headers-3.5.0-41-generic
[21:11] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: OK... but it is trying to go to fakeraid, was what I was checking
[21:11] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: what RAID type is configured?
[21:11] <Steve_McQuack> RAID0
[21:11] <Guest42784> Can everything that can be done using strings to state file permissions be done with octals. I understand octals but not string, so must I learn both?
[21:12] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: OK, so striping.
[21:12] <Steve_McQuack> yes
[21:12] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: You should find, now, that "/var/log/installer/" may contain something more useful :)
[21:13] <Steve_McQuack> hmm
[21:13] <Steve_McQuack> I don't seem to have an /installer/ directory
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-3.5.0-45-generic_3.5.0-45.68_amd64.deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-headers-generic_3.5.0.45.61_amd64.deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic_3.5.0-45.68_amd64.deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-extra-3.5.0-45-generic_3.5.0-45.68_amd64.deb
[21:13] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: is it "/var/log/install/" ? I can't remember now :p
[21:13] <Steve_McQuack> I'm on a normal Xubuntu boot now btw, I booted it up with Super GRUB Disk
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: download the 4 of them and install em#
[21:13] <Steve_McQuack> there's no such folder probably because I'm not on the liveCD anymore
[21:14] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: oh OK, so can you find any log on there we can use to diagnose the issue?
[21:14] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok! I think that could help
[21:14] <Steve_McQuack> I think I need to try installing GRUB first
[21:14] <Steve_McQuack> what's the command to do it?
[21:14] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: I am assuming that super GRUB can see the fakeraid device mapper nodes?
[21:14] <Steve_McQuack> yes it can
[21:15] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: If that is the super-GRUB disk, surely it has GRUB? :s
[21:15] <Steve_McQuack> yes it's a super duper version of grub with a bunch of boot detection tools
[21:15] <Steve_McQuack> but how do I install GRUB from the repository now that I'm on the real OS
[21:16] <Jeffry> guys my hdd crshed and i lost my windows 8 can i use my old oem code to reinstall win8?
[21:16] <Steve_McQuack> grub-install /dev/mapper/mystuff?
[21:16] <lickalott> gents, I have a GeForce 9600M GT that i "thought" I installed additional drivers for but I just saw that in the settings > system> Graphics it says "unknown" for driver.
[21:16] <lickalott> How can i fix this?
[21:16] <Jeffry> soorryits not ubuntu related
[21:16] <lukecarrier> Jeffry, probably better off asking in ##windows or sth
[21:16] <stetho> Hi all. I have a server that has a 12Tb RAID in it. There's something filing it up at a rate of roughly 100Mb/second but I'm having trouble finding out what. The shares are all NFS if that helps. How can I track down what's filling up my disk?
[21:16] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: that's the basic idea, but you can't do that if you've booted from a live environment on this super grub disk
[21:16] <tc0nn> iftop
[21:17] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO help - I believe dpkg -i one at a time is not good ?
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> Jeffry: the windows iso pulls the oem key from the secure boot
[21:17] <Steve_McQuack> No I'm not on a live environment, I'm on a normal OS booted through super grub disk.
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: sudo dpkg -i *                             should be good
[21:17] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: oh I see!
[21:17] <Steve_McQuack> since it didn't have a working GRUB of its own
[21:18] <TJ-> Steve, OK, well "sudo grub-install /dev/mapper/<nodename>" should get you started, if that works, then follow-up with "sudo update-grub"
[21:18] <Steve_McQuack> Sorry for not highlighting enough, what's the shortcut in XChat?
[21:18] <Guest42784> What would be "throwing yourself in at the deep end" with using the terminal? I want to learn as much as possible.
[21:18] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO looks good
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: say the persons name and it will hilight
[21:18] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: You just need to type my username... or use T + tab-completion to have xchat find my nickname for you
[21:18] <Jeffry> ok thanks
[21:18] <Steve_McQuack> I mean shortcut for doing it fast like you all seem to be
[21:18] <Steve_McQuack> unless you're just copypasting my name with a colon
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> !tab | Steve_McQuack using this
[21:19] <Steve_McQuack> oh that works, thanks
[21:19] <TJ-> Guest42784: I'd say it was doing "man bash" and reading it start to finish!!
[21:21] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-:  Hello, how can I force GRUB to install on a fakeraid partition?
[21:21] <Steve_McQuack> oops
[21:22] <Steve_McQuack> silly terminal copypaste
[21:22] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO well, something happened, "Error occured: linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-3.5.0-45-generic
[21:22] <[1]elliot> stetho, you could probabl find it with lsof I bet
[21:22] <Steve_McQuack> TJ-:  warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
[21:22] <Steve_McQuack> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[21:22] <Steve_McQuack> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[21:22] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: :D
[21:22] <Steve_McQuack> wat do
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-headers-generic_3.5.0.45.61_amd64.deb
[21:23] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: oh dear... not a good state. How is that device partitioned? Can you do "fdisk -l /dev/mapper/<fakeraid> | pastebinit" ?
[21:23] <A_P00r_Student> Um, hello everyone - I was wondering if anyone could tell me why gcc my not be able to look at usr/include for the std libraries for c...?
[21:23] <A_P00r_Student> *may
[21:24] <Steve_McQuack> Cannot open /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2
[21:24] <Steve_McQuack> :/
[21:24] <stetho> [1]elliot: I can't see how. There's 3531 open files and I can't see anything in man lsof that allows me to filter them in a useful way.
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> A_P00r_Student: ##c might be a better channel for that question
[21:24] <bekks> Steve_McQuack: Looks like you are using a fakeraid on a Nvidia chipset.
[21:24] <Steve_McQuack> nvidia_aeedagcb2 being the linux partition I want GRUB installed to
[21:24] <Guest42784> How can I get the time that my cron.daily files will run?
[21:25] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Aha! I think you're addressing the partition #2 not the base drive... Is there not a device mapper node without a numeric suffix which would represent the entire RAID device
[21:25] <Pici> Guest42784: Check /etc/crontab
[21:25] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: grub is installed to the drive's MBR, not into a partition, usually
[21:25] <Steve_McQuack> I want it on the partition, not the MBR actually, specifically
[21:25] <A_P00r_Student> thank you hitsujiTMO
[21:26] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: So what is acting as the primary boot-loader then?
[21:26] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok
[21:26] <Guest42784> Pici: bash: cd: /etc/crontab: Not a directory
[21:26] <Steve_McQuack> Windows NT loader
[21:26] <Steve_McQuack> I'm chain loading GRUB with it
[21:26] <Pici> Guest42784: its a file, not a directory.
[21:26] <Guest42784> oh XD
[21:26] <Steve_McQuack> if I can get GRUB working first of course
[21:26] <lukecarrier> Guest42784, less /etc/crontab
[21:27] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: OK ... well, I've not needed to do that before, its a pretty esoteric configuration. You'd be better off asking the grub people about it, or searching online for articles
[21:27] <Steve_McQuack> Yeah I know how it works
[21:27] <Steve_McQuack> I just need to get GRUB actually installed
[21:27] <Steve_McQuack> then I can work from there
[21:27] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: Well ask the grub people. You've got the grub-install message about blocklists to start from
[21:27] <Guest42784> 25 6    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) ??
[21:27] <Steve_McQuack> okay, thanks for the help
[21:27] <Guest42784> Does that say when it will run?
[21:28] <Steve_McQuack> Is #grub a good place to ask?
[21:28] <lukecarrier> Guest42784, min, hour, dom, mon, dow
[21:28] <lukecarrier> Guest42784, minute, hours, day of month, month, day of week
[21:28] <Guest42784> lukecarrier: thank you. So 25 minutes past 6?
[21:28] <TJ-> Steve_McQuack: That, or the grub-users mailing list
[21:29] <lukecarrier> Guest42784, correct, every day as indicated by * in the other fields
[21:29] <jeffrey_f> FYI     #grub
[21:29] <Steve_McQuack> I wonder how LILO's fakeraid detection is
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: dd your current bootstrap (first 446 bytes) install grub to the mbr. dd that bootstrap to a file. dd the original bootstrap back in place.
[21:29] <Guest42784> Now I'm worrying I don't cron ran today
[21:29] <Steve_McQuack> Last time I tried this GRUB was just awful at this
[21:29] <bekks> First 448 not 446 bytes.
[21:30] <Steve_McQuack> hitsujiTMO, Uhh, what's dd?  -_-
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> sorry yup 448 bytes.
[21:31] <spr-k3737> Hi there, the integrity test on my thumb drive is failing, and the md5 on the source ISO passed. How do I check if my thumb drive is dead?
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: dd is the disk destroyer. you can use it to read or write directly to a block device, but any typos or mistakes can lead to accidentally breaking the entire system
[21:31] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO hmm, dpkg -i * completed with the same message "Error with linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-3.5.0-45-generic
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: whats the full error?
[21:32] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO just the error or the whole install message?
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: pastebin everything
[21:32] <Steve_McQuack> Well, I guess I could try what you stated
[21:32] <Steve_McQuack> I can always repair my MBR with Windows install disc
[21:33] <Steve_McQuack> How do I do all that hitsujiTMO
[21:33] <[1]elliot> stetho,  sudo lsof / -s |sort -n --key=7
[21:33] <[1]elliot> biggest files listed last
[21:35] <[1]elliot> biggest *open* files listed last
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: sudo dd if=/dev/mapper/<fakeraid> bs=448 count=1 > ~/win.mbr
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: be causeful to not make any typos
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> careful*
[21:36] <Steve_McQuack> Then do sudo grub-install dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb  ?
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: yup
[21:36] <Steve_McQuack> Where is that other file being copied to
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: after that: sudo dd if=/dev/mapper/<fakeraid> bs=448 count=1 > ~/ubuntu.mbr
[21:37] <FrameFever> I want to use cmake for ubuntu, and found this binaries on the homepage  	cmake-2.8.12.1-Linux-i386.tar.gz are this the correct one for my system?
[21:37] <Steve_McQuack> are those just being put on the base linux directory
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: and then return the windows mbr: sudo dd if=~/ubuntu.mbr of=/dev/mapper/<fakeraid> bs=448 count=1
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: thats being put to your $HOME
[21:38] <Steve_McQuack> All right, I'm just gonna copypaste what you've typed
[21:38] <Steve_McQuack> If I hadn't just backed up my Windows partition I wouldn't do this
[21:38] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I'm sure this is wrong, https://gist.github.com/gunnarahlberg/8445204
[21:39] <Steve_McQuack> well I guess I'll have to change the dev/mapper/ bit
[21:40] <Steve_McQuack> hitsujiTMO,  sudo dd if=/dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb bs=448 count=1 > ~/win.mbr   or   sudo dd if=/dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb1 bs=448 count=1 > ~/win.mbr   ?
[21:40] <Steve_McQuack> nvidia_aeedagcb is the overall RAID array, nvidia_aeedagcb1 is the first partition
[21:40] <linuxnewb2> Oh man i'm having so many issues trying to make a certficate to work with openvpn+vpnbook
[21:40] <linuxnewb2> I fell full retard
[21:41] <linuxnewb2> See, Feel*
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: without the 1. the mbr is on the drive, not the partition
[21:41] <Steve_McQuack> gulp
[21:41] <Steve_McQuack> okay
[21:43] <mimrock> Hi, Is this a place where I can ask about the installation of a python package on ubuntu?
[21:43] <Pici> mimrock: sure
[21:44] <Domaldel> Howdy folks =)
[21:44] <Domaldel> Anyone familiar with problems with OpenGL?
[21:44] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO seems like I've missunderstood you, the list of .deb files are conflicting, right?
[21:45] <Steve_McQuack> hitsujiTMO,   Okay, so you're sure sudo dd if=~/ubuntu.mbr of=/dev/mapper/<fakeraid> bs=448 count=1  brought back my Windows MBR now?
[21:45] <mimrock> I'm using ubuntu 12.10. I installed rpy2 package. This is a python package that integrates python with R. My issue is that only python2 can recognize the package. Python3.2 and python3.3 cannot. I installed all python versions from repository
[21:45] <Steve_McQuack> GRUB seems to have installed correctly
[21:45] <Steve_McQuack> so now I have it as home/ubuntu.mbr?
[21:45] <bgardner> mimrock: How did you install rpy2?
[21:46] <mimrock> from repository
[21:46] <bgardner> mimrock: Specifically, what command?
[21:46] <mimrock> Using synaptic
[21:46] <mimrock> that means apt-get install, I guess
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: yup it should have. you can then put ubuntu.mbr into your windows boot partition and boot to that
[21:46] <Steve_McQuack> hitsujiTMO, Or perhaps you meant to say finish with sudo dd if=~/win.mbr of=/dev/mapper/<fakeraid> bs=448 count=1   ?
[21:47] <Steve_McQuack> That other commands looks like it read to copy the grub thing back to the mbr
[21:47] <fishcooker> is there any ftp app on linux  that cover this ftp feature on http://www.smartftp.com/client/editions?
[21:47] <Steve_McQuack> command*
[21:47] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ready? full log is in https://gist.github.com/gunnarahlberg/8445204
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> Steve_McQuack: sorry, yes  sudo dd if=~/win.mbr of=/dev/mapper/<fakeraid> bs=448 count=1
[21:47] <Steve_McQuack> okay, good thing I caught that :3
[21:47] <bgardner> mimrock: Then it looks like you installed python-rpy2.  One second.
[21:47] <Myrtti> fishcooker: covers which feature?
[21:47] <mimrock> bgardner: Yes, that's right VErsion 2.2.6-1
[21:49] <mimrock> bgardner: import rpy2 works if I'm running the script with "python script.py" using python 2.7.3 but not with python3 or python3.3 (Hi, Is this a place where I can ask about the installation of a python package on ubuntu?)
[21:49] <mimrock> oh, sorry
[21:49] <bgardner> mimrock: That would be only the relevant files for python 2 - I'm not seeing a python3 version in the repositories.  If I were you, I'd install it with 'pip3 install rpy2'
[21:49] <mimrock> bgardner:  this is the error message: (No module named 'rpy2)
[21:49] <Steve_McQuack> All right, I'm gonna reboot to Windows now to make sure nothing's broken
[21:50] <mimrock> bgardner: I see, that makes sense. I'll try, thank you!
[21:50] <bgardner> mimrock: Certainly, good luck
[21:50] <fishcooker> scheduled transfer Myrtti
[21:51] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO hello?
[21:51] <Domaldel> When I try to open the steam engine for the first time I get an error message saying something along the line of this display not supporting OpenGL or some such thing, anyone know how to do something about that? =)
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: reading it now
[21:51] <fishcooker> is vsftpd will do that, Myrtti
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: had to translate it first :)
[21:51] <skinux> What is the best way to make downloaded apps searchable using dashboard (e.g. "Windows Key")?
[21:51] <Steve_McQuack> Now what should I do with this ubuntu.mbr file I've made?
[21:51] <Myrtti> fishcooker: no idea, I'd probably use command line and cron
[21:51] <skinux> Is it created a .desktop file and putting it with all the others under /usr/share?
[21:52] <Steve_McQuack> well one step at a time
[21:52] <Steve_McQuack> I'll be back
[21:52] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO sorry :)
[21:53] <skinux> And, what happened to Ubuntu's Application/etc menus?
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: i think http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-3.5.0-45_3.5.0-45.68_all.deb is whats missing
[21:54] <Salvo19> johnny stecchino
[21:57] <Domaldel> When I try to open the steam engine for the first time I get an error message saying something along the line of this display not supporting OpenGL or some such thing, anyone know how to do something about that? =)
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: what gpu do you have?
[21:58] <Domaldel> Um, Nivida feforce gt 540M I thin
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: and whats the onboard gpu?
[21:58] <Domaldel> Apparently it got 2 GB dedicated vram according to the text on a sticker on the computer.
[21:59] <Domaldel> How do I check?
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: can you pastebin the output of: lspci | grep VGA
[21:59]  * Domaldel is a newbie.
[21:59] <Domaldel> One sec.
[21:59] <Domaldel> Just write that in the terminal, correct?
[21:59] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO sorry, stil not good :(
[22:00] <Domaldel> Past it in here or in a pm?
[22:00] <Domaldel> And just typing that didn't seem to work btw.
[22:00] <k1l> !paste | Domaldel
[22:01] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO sorry, stil not good :( https://gist.github.com/gunnarahlberg/8445204
[22:01] <Domaldel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758718/
[22:02] <k1l> Domaldel: lspci not ispci
[22:02] <k1l> a small L not a i
[22:02] <Domaldel> Ok, one sec.
[22:02] <linuxnewb2> I need help with Tiny CA Management , How can i make a ca ?
[22:02] <linuxnewb2> What am i doing wrong, trying to connect to vpnbook
[22:02] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO switched place to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758721/
[22:02] <linuxnewb2> Please help
[22:03] <linuxnewb2> I might just kurt cobain this thang :)
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: looks like dkms needs an update
[22:03] <fishcooker> is it possible that we can do sftp but we can't do ssh to the ubuntu box?
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dkms/dkms_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu4_all.deb
[22:04] <Domaldel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758734/
[22:04] <teemu_t> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[22:04] <teemu_t> oi
[22:04] <teemu_t> dont leave plzz
[22:04] <teemu_t> show peen
[22:05] <Beldar> teemu_t, Do you have a issue?
[22:05] <k1l> teemu_t: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[22:05] <DrGrov> Evening
[22:05] <fishcooker> what happen Domaldel
[22:05] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok, dkms got installed fine
[22:06] <DrGrov> I would need some help in setting up my firewall in Xubuntu 13.10 64-bit. I have all forgot about it until I figured it out while driving home.
[22:06] <fishcooker> is that intel i3 ?
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: hmm, should be ok. have you installed bumblebee/nvidia-prime?
[22:07] <Domaldel> Well, I simply get an error message when I try to run the steam client the first time, saying that OpenGL GLX extention is no supported by the display.
[22:07] <Domaldel> And when I try to install 3D chess games that don't work either.
[22:08] <Domaldel> Nope, looked up the problem online and found a reference to bumblebee but got the impression that it was xbox related.
[22:08] <Domaldel> The other one I've never heard about.
[22:08] <k1l> Domaldel: you have a hybrid grafic. so eiter you disable one in the bios or you try bumblebee
[22:08] <Domaldel> I wanted to ask in here before doing something that might make my computer catch fire ;-)
[22:08] <Domaldel> Or something.
[22:08] <Domaldel> Ok, bumblebee?
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: so what output are you getting from: sudo apt-get -f install
[22:09] <k1l> Domaldel: that is a special nvidia driver
[22:09]  * Domaldel nods.
[22:09] <k1l> !bumblebee | Domaldel
[22:09] <Domaldel> Anyone mind walking me through the install process? =)
[22:10] <Domaldel> Got it open, but looks complicated.
[22:10] <k1l> sry, i dont have a nvidia card
[22:10] <Domaldel> Would be nice if there's someone that I can shoot any questions if someone have done it before =)
[22:10] <Domaldel> Ah, well thanks anyway =)
[22:10] <k1l> Domaldel: maybe that helps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[22:11] <quaresma> damn rain...
[22:11] <Domaldel> Thanks, that looks quite a bit simpler =)
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: if there are no errors reboot to the new kernel
[22:12] <Domaldel> Now I just need to figure out if I got the ubuntu version that is given a special mention or not :-P
[22:12] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO hmm, well there are errors when I do dpkg -i *deb. I changed to english, let me show you
[22:13] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO "package linux-headers-3.5.0-45 is not installed"
[22:13] <quaresma> u should do an update
[22:15] <quaresma> install the headers and the proper graphic card drivers
[22:15] <quaresma> or not
[22:15] <quaresma> just the nvidia drivers
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: that was this package -> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-3.5.0-45_3.5.0-45.68_all.deb
[22:16] <Domaldel> Was tht @ me quaresma? =)
[22:16] <Domaldel> 'that
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: is it saying there's a dependency issue?
[22:16] <gunna_88> yes, it's saying it's a dependency issue. I'll retry dpkg -i *deb with the last link you sent
[22:16] <quaresma> yes Domalde1 sry
[22:17] <quaresma> ive got some issues installing the ubuntu too
[22:17] <quaresma> the LTS
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: can you once again pastebin the full output so i can see the full dependency issues
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> !details | quaresma
[22:20] <quaresma> ubottu sry i was tryin to help too
[22:20] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ok, let me try again with the latest link you sent me, I must have missed that somehow
[22:21] <FrameFever> in which package are the 32 bit libraries for X (ubuntu 13.10)
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: packagename:i386
[22:22] <fishcooker> after doing some installation through apt-get ..and apt-get autoremove.. i got this error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758809/
[22:22] <Domaldel> Hum...
[22:22] <Domaldel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758820/
[22:22] <rcrobot> Hello. I seem to be having some issues getting Flash content to work on Chrome for Ubuntu. I've tried using the built-in pepperflash, Adobe's flash, gnash, and combinations of the three. In all of the situations, Flash games crash after about 10 minutes in. Can someone help?
[22:23] <lickalott> gents, whats the best .iso burner for Ubuntu?  the stock one kinda sucks
[22:23] <Ziluz> Hey guys i need some help here, my site is 146.185.180.113  , i installed all steps https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-12-04  but now my site shows error instead of old *it works* ...
[22:23] <FrameFever> hitsujiTMO: notthing found through synaptic
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: what exactly do you need the package for?
[22:23] <k1l> Domaldel: which ubuntu do you use?
[22:24] <FrameFever> 13.10
[22:24] <notmot> Hay
[22:24] <FrameFever> x64
[22:24] <Domaldel> How do I check?
[22:24] <lickalott> uname -a
[22:24] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO much better!
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic
[22:24] <lickalott> whoops....wrong window
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: so no errors now?
[22:24] <FrameFever> I want to use cmake-gui
[22:24] <FrameFever> but get this error
[22:24] <FrameFever> ./cmake-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:24] <Domaldel> And what did I do wrong  hitsujiTMO?
[22:24] <k1l> Domaldel: lsb_release -a
[22:25] <Domaldel> Because I thought I wrote that exactly.
[22:25] <k1l> hitsujiTMO: bumblebee is in repos since 13.10
[22:25] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO no errors! And I reboot, and I've got network up!
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: misspelled nvidia
[22:25] <FrameFever> hitsujiTMO: does this info help?
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: sweet
[22:25] <k1l> hitsujiTMO: o right. typos
[22:26] <Domaldel> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[22:26] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO thank you so much for your patience and knowledge!
[22:26] <glitsj16> FrameFever: why are you compiling ? the cmake packages are all in the ubuntu repos
[22:26] <Domaldel> Ok, thanks =)
[22:26] <Domaldel> One sec :-)
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: np
[22:26] <FrameFever> I don't compile downloaded from the website the archive
[22:26] <Ziluz> anyone willing to help ?
[22:27] <FrameFever> so in which package is libSM.so.6?
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> !find libSM.so.6
[22:27] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO - and now I'm connected from my linux :)
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: libsm6 for 64bit or libsm6:i386 for 32bit
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | gunna_88
[22:29] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO - it was a loooong ride :)
[22:29] <Domaldel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758844/
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: lol yup, but at least it worked
[22:29] <FrameFever> hitsujiTMO: now the next error libXi.so
[22:29] <Ziluz> Hey guys i need some help here, my site is 146.185.180.113  , i installed all steps https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-12-04  but now my site shows error instead of old *it works* ...
[22:29] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO yup!
[22:30] <Domaldel> Apparently the first part of that command worked, but the second didn't.
[22:30] <k1l> Domaldel: another typo: virtualgl
[22:30] <FrameFever> I think I need X for i386
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: no need for viritualgl
[22:30] <Domaldel> Ah ><
[22:30] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I'm extra impressed how you got all commands, versions and links correct, every time
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: even: no need for viritualgl
[22:30] <Domaldel> Ok, so just ignore that?
[22:30] <Ziluz> guys ?
[22:31] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO no, well, the virtualbox is for running my clients IE8 environment
[22:31] <Domaldel> So just skip to the next step?
[22:31] <k1l> !away > andyfied|afk
[22:31] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO I just keep virtualbox around for testing ie8 code
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> gunna_88: sorry "no need for viritualgl" was for someone else :P
[22:32] <FrameFever> hitsujiTMO: can you help?
[22:32] <gunna_88> hitsujiTMO ah
[22:32] <Domaldel> So just skip to the next step?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: do the same command, but without the virtualgl package
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> !find libXi.so
[22:33] <Domaldel> Ok.
[22:33] <Domaldel> What parts of the command should I remove then, just that single word or also things comming after?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: libxi-dev:i386
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic
[22:34] <FrameFever> hitsujiTMO: not libxi:i386
[22:34] <FrameFever> ?
[22:34] <gunna_88> FOSS forever :)
[22:34] <ubuntu100ubu> Hello. I'm having trouble getting 'Details' to open in System Settings. Nothing pops up and when I go to Task Manager, I see gnome-control-center gradually hogging up ram
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: since you're building something you'll more than likely want the dev package
[22:34] <rcrobot_> Would this be the right channel to ask for help getting flash to work in Chrome/Chromium?
[22:35] <Domaldel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6758882/
[22:35] <TJ-> FrameFever: hitsujiTMO: I think cmake-gui is just trying to link itself to the shared libraries in order to be shown on-screen, in which case libxi:i386 would be correct
[22:35] <ubuntu100ubu> Anyone know a fix?
[22:35] <Domaldel> The joy of computers combined with newbies =)
[22:36] <handlebar>  Ziluz: I just hit your WP install at http://146.185.180.113/wp-admin/install.php, what happens after you set the information needed?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: again a typo in bumblebee-nvidia
[22:36] <Pebbe> newbies? We talking about me?
[22:36]  * Domaldel points at himself.
[22:36] <FrameFever> TJ: E: Unable to locate package libxi
[22:36] <Domaldel> Ugh, sorry :-/
[22:36] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to migrate my Ubuntu installation from LVM2 towards RAID5.  I've created the RAID array and mounted the LVM that currently hosts my root partition.  How should I go about moving my /boot partition to the new RAID5 array?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: libxi6:i386
[22:36] <TJ-> FrameFever: Isn't there an Ubuntu package you can install for "cmake-gui" ? "apt-cache search cmake-gui"
[22:36] <Ziluz> handlebar:  thanks bro!, ill continue =)
[22:37] <Pebbe> Hey, guys, do you think it would be possible to have nvidia drivers installed on a bootable USB, which is also used at a system with integrated AMD graphics?
[22:37] <FrameFever> how can I remove the dev package again?
[22:37] <blz> for clarity:  I intend to move my filesystem with rsync -avx, but I'm not sure how I should move the /boot partition.  Do I need to create it before doing rsync?
[22:37] <FrameFever> what the command?
[22:37] <ubuntu100ubu> I'm having trouble getting 'Details' to open in System Settings. Nothing pops up and when I go to Task Manager, I see gnome-control-center gradually hogging up ram. Does anyone know a fix??
[22:37] <wad> I wonder what percent of traffic on #ubuntu related to nvidia drivers? For me, it's been about 80%. -_-
[22:37] <TJ-> Pebbe: Yes... provided neither of them wants to create a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" because they'll argue
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: sudo apt-get remove libxi-dev:i386
[22:38] <rcrobot_> Hey guys, I'm having issues with Flash content in Chrome/Chromium. Can someone help?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> rcrobot_: what flash player are you using?
[22:39] <ubuntu100ubu> rcrobot_ you can try installing Ubuntu Restricted Extras
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> rcrobot_: chrome://plugins should say which one
[22:40] <Domaldel> Going to try relogging here with another client, this one is a tiny bit bugged it seems.
[22:40] <Domaldel> One sec.
[22:40] <rcrobot_> hitsujiTMO, I've tried the built-in pepperflash, the latest available version from Adobe, as well as gnash. None of the three have allowed me to play a game for more than 10 minutes or so.
[22:40] <imlostbro> I'm having trouble getting 'Details' to open in System Settings. Nothing pops up and when I go to Task Manager, I see gnome-control-center gradually hogging up ram. Does anyone know a fix??
[22:40] <FrameFever> hitsujiTMO: it says now Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[22:41] <FrameFever> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:...
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: it may have installed some dependencies. autoremove will remove them
[22:41] <blz> Could somebody please explain what the `mount --move /boot /mnt`command is achieving here?  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72099/migrate-an-entire-volume-group-lvm2-to-raid5
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> FrameFever: sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:41] <blz> Surely it isn't creating a /boot partition ...
[22:41] <domaldel> There we go =)
[22:42] <sudormrf> Hi guys.  I am having difficulty setting up roundcube.  I have installed postfix and courier and made some tweaks, but I just can't seem to get roundcube working.  I can browse to the roundcube login page, but can't log in.  I am sure I amm missing something in my config, I am just not sure what.
[22:42] <Ziluz>  handlebar: now its installed, i can see backend, but should there be some wp sample site on my ip?  http://146.185.180.113
[22:42] <FrameFever> thx
[22:42] <Domaldel> Well, it looks like that step worked out allright thanks to your help hitsujiTMO =)
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> Domaldel: no problems
[22:43] <Domaldel> Unless there's something more I should do I'll just try to reboot like the guide suggests =)
[22:43] <handlebar> Ziluz: Standby
[22:43] <imlostbro> so i guess no one knows a fix for my problem.
[22:43] <jhutchins> sudormrf: There is #roundcube
[22:43] <Domaldel> See you all in a few ^^
[22:43] <sudormrf> jhutchins, it's dead.  I am in there.  It has been dead all day
[22:44] <sudormrf> was hoping someone in here might be able to provide some insight
[22:45] <TJ-> sudormrf: Have you double-checked "config/db.inc.php"
[22:46] <Ziluz>  handlebar: when i installed LAMP i just press OK OK, so i guess its sample left from installation ?
[22:46] <TJ-> sudormrf: Make sure the database connection string is correct: $rcmail_config['db_dsnw'] = ...
[22:47] <sudormrf> TJ-, I was just looking at that right now.  however db.inc.php says not to set $rcmail_config['db_dsnw'] from that file.
[22:47] <Domaldel> Hum
[22:47] <Gallomimia> i know when you install mysql by itself it demands you set a root password to begin. is it different in a LAMP package/
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> blz: its moving the mountpoint at /boot to /mnt so you can get access to /boot on /
[22:47] <Domaldel> Great, thanks for the help all =)
[22:47] <rcrobot_> Hi there. I'm having some trouble with flash for Chrome. I've tried using adobe flash, the built-in pepperflash, and gnash, and none seem to work for more than 10-15 minutes before crashing. Any ideas how to fix this?
[22:47] <sudormrf> * Do not set db_dsnw here, use dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core to configure database ! *
[22:47] <Domaldel> Managed to get steam working ^^
[22:47] <sudormrf> that's what it says
[22:47] <Domaldel> Now I just need to work out what the devil my account information was :-P
[22:47] <blz> hitsujiTMO, you mean so that when it tries to create a /boot, the system doesn't complain that /boot already exists?
[22:48] <TJ-> sudormrf: Ahhh OK ... I use the latest upstream ... well, have you checked "/etc/default/roundcube" which is where I would guess the debian configuration is stored
[22:48] <Domaldel> Ah, time for a doggy walk.
[22:48] <Domaldel> Bye all =)
[22:48] <TJ-> sudormrf: And test manually you can connect to the database using the same credentials, using the db's client application
[22:48] <sudormrf> TJ-, I may have found something I missed.  brb
[22:49] <blz> hitsujiTMO, to be honest, I don't really understand any of that last code block.  I'm in a live environment, so perhaps it doesn't apply, though
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> blz: its not creating a /boot its moving /boot from an external partition to the root partition
[22:50] <sudormrf> TJ-, the issue I am having is that I cannot log in.  So I believe the issue is that the DB isn't connected.  I could be wrong, but that would be my first thought.
[22:50] <imlostbro> I'm having trouble getting 'Details' to open in System Settings. Nothing pops up and when I go to Task Manager, I see gnome-control-center gradually hogging up ram. Does anyone know a fix?
[22:50] <sudormrf> I just tried dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core and I didn't reinstall the roundcube DB (I wasn't sure if it was necessary, didn't think it would be as I haven't modified that DB).
[22:51] <TJ-> sudormrf: Yes... so manually test your database connection settings
[22:51] <sudormrf> TJ-, to do that I just go 'mysql -u username -p' correct?
[22:51] <blz> hitsujiTMO, sorry I'm still very much confused.  Assuming I run these commands from a livecd, isn't / relative to the OS that's currently running (which is to say the Ubuntu on my USB drive)?  If so, doesn't this move /boot to the USB drive's root partition?
[22:51] <sudormrf> TJ-, I am a n00b to sql.
[22:51] <TJ-> sudormrf: Yes, that looks correct
[22:52] <sudormrf> TJ-, in that case I am able to log in to the DB just fine
[22:52] <TJ-> sudormrf: the you'll need to do "use <database-name>;"
[22:52] <sudormrf> yep
[22:52] <TJ-> sudormrf: then "show tables;"
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> blz: lvm will have /boot on an external partition. this is moving everthing from that external partition onto the main partition
[22:52] <ShooterMG> what do i need to do to give a user read-only access for a specific directory? (and containing subdirectories)
[22:53] <handlebar1> Zuluz: Sorry lost connection, I hit your WP here: http://146.185.180.113/wp-login.php, can you login?
[22:53] <sudormrf> TJ-, yep
[22:53] <sudormrf> TJ-, I see the tables
[22:53] <TJ-> sudormrf: OK, so if that works, you need to check the users table to ensure your user is there
[22:53] <sudormrf> TJ-, sorry for the n00b question, but how do I check the contents of the table?
[22:54] <blz> hitsujiTMO, right, but since I'm running Ubuntu from a live CD in order to do this LVM -> RAID migration, doesn't that mean my "main partition" is actually that of the live CD?  Ergo, don't these commands have to change somehow to reflect that?
[22:54] <blz> hitsujiTMO, or am I completely missing the point ? =)
[22:54] <TJ-> sudormrf: "select * from rc_users;"
[22:54] <ghs> for programmers, which is best ? gnome or kde ?
[22:55] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok, hang on.
[22:55] <k1l> ghs: doesnt matter
[22:55] <blz> hitsujiTMO, in few words, I'm concerned that if I run these commands, I'll move /boot to my live USB drive and not to the RAID5 array
[22:55] <k1l> ghs: choose what looks best to you.
[22:55] <TJ-> sudormrf: It'll be hard to read - each field is separate by the virtual bar character
[22:55] <handlebar1> Ziluz: Sorry lost connection, I hit your WP here: http://146.185.180.113/wp-login.php, can you login?
[22:56] <ghs> k1l, I'm thinking in to install the kubuntu, but the support is same than Ubuntu default ?
[22:56] <sudormrf> TJ-, no worries.  I have phpmyadmin installed if that would make this easier
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> blz: yes you will have to mount what ever partitions that pertains to /boot and / and substitute the corrent mountpoints and paths
[22:56] <Ziluz> handlebar1 i am in
[22:57] <rcrobot_> Hi there. I'm having some trouble with flash for Chrome. I've tried using adobe flash, the built-in pepperflash, and gnash, and none seem to work for more than 10-15 minutes before crashing. Any ideas how to fix this?
[22:57] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok I am confused lol.  hang on, let me try with another user
[22:57] <k1l> ghs: the non lts have 9 month which is the same for all derivates
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> blz: i'm sure it will actually fail in a horrible mess rather than messing up the raid since its not mounted as /
[22:57] <k1l> ghs: for LTS im not sure but i think kubuntu goes with the 5 year lts support
[22:57] <blz> hitsujiTMO, ok, then this makes some sense =)  So basically something like `mount --move /media/myuser/boot /media/myuser/myraidarrayboot/`?`
[22:57] <blz> hitsujiTMO, that's reassuring =)
[22:58] <sudormrf> TJ-, OK.  I think the issue is that a user doesn't exist, even though I could swear I created one.  So now another n00b question.  how can I create a user and add them into that table?
[22:58] <TJ-> sudormrf: Have you checked the log-files to see if authentication is failing?
[22:59] <sudormrf> TJ-, it is.
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> blz: you dont actually need to move the boot partition mount point as its not mounted relative to the root in your case.
[22:59] <TJ-> sudormrf: The user's are the system's users.... roundcube connects to an IMAP4 mail server... I use dovecot ... so dovecot does the user account handling.
[23:00] <sudormrf> TJ-, I think this is where I am confused
[23:00] <TJ-> sudormrf: So I'd guess the user doesn't exist as a POSIX account on there
[23:00] <sudormrf> I have a db called 'maildb' that I created.  roundcube also created a db
[23:00] <sudormrf> both of these dbs have a users table in them
[23:00] <sudormrf> but both of the user tables are blank
[23:00] <Kireji_> how can I use apt-get or something similar on the command line to get the number of packages that need to be upgraded?
[23:00] <sudormrf> TJ-, how can I rectify?
[23:01] <TJ-> sudormrf: roundcube > php > IMAP4 (e.g. dovecot) > /home/$USER/Maildir/
[23:01] <sudormrf> TJ-, let me have a look
[23:01] <blz> hitsujiTMO, So wait, what exactly do I need to do in order to boot from a RAID5 array -- create a /boot partition on each drive in the array and cp -a the old /boot to there?
[23:01]  * blz is so confused...
[23:02] <TJ-> sudormrf: See http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Howto_Config
[23:02] <Kireji_> eg http://askubuntu.com/questions/269606/apt-get-count-the-number-of-updates-available
[23:02] <sudormrf> TJ-, I am using courier instead of dovecot.  am I understanding correctly that courier is what would be handling the accounts and roundcube is just there for user accounts created for courier to see their email via webmail?
[23:03] <sudormrf> checking
[23:03] <Darkangel> how does 1 donate a server to Linux people?
[23:03] <TJ-> sudormrf: Yes, that is correct... I think, reading that wiki, you need to ensure "auto_create_user" is in use, and read the description of that option
[23:03] <Ziluz> handlebar1 what should i do?
[23:04] <rcrobot_>  I'm having some trouble with flash for Chrome. I've tried using adobe flash, the built-in pepperflash, and gnash, and none seem to work for more than 10-15 minutes before crashing.
[23:04] <sudormrf> TJ-, my problem is this "The following sections will explain the most common settings one need to make before starting to use Roundcube. If the local config file doesn't already contain one of the listed options simply copy it from the config/defaults.inc.php file" no defaults.inc.php file exists anywhere.  this has been the problem with documentation I have seen across the net is they all reference files that don't exist in my case.
[23:04] <sudormrf> TJ-, I will have a look.  BBIAB
[23:04] <TJ-> sudormrf: The settings key-names are the same no matter where you change them
[23:06] <linux> Hi. How can I change grub menu colors by hand?
[23:07] <linux> Ubuntu 13.10
[23:07] <sudormrf> TJ-, thoroughly confused.
[23:07] <sudormrf> TJ-, auto_create_user is set to true
[23:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: So "Login failed" suggests courier can't log the user in. Can you use another IMAP4 client, such as Mozilla Thunderbird, to connect to the user's email account
[23:09] <sudormrf> TJ-, this is completely a dry run.  I am trying to get this all setup virtually to see how difficult it is.
[23:11] <Beldar> linux, Info all over the web on customizing grub, you might ask in #grub
[23:12] <ljetibo> Hello! I have a wireless networking problem on a dual boot laptop (win7 and unbutu12.04). My ISP recently changed the rules and now all modems are locked, that is I can not input my info in its settings as before, which means each device connected at the same time has to have its own username and pass. In Win7 I now connect to wlan first, and then to a broadband connection again later (see:
[23:12] <ljetibo> https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/261x330q90/842/fmb8.png and https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/350x364q50/713/t5c1.png). I have tried to achieve the same thing in ubunutu, but I can only connect if I have a cable plugged in, I looked around and oppened a dsl connection in the Network connections tab and clicked on connect automatically but to no avail. Can anyone help? I can give more info,
[23:12] <ljetibo> but keep in mind that I have to restart everytime, so ask for everything you can think of at once.
[23:12] <blz> I'm currently booted in a live environment and I'm trying to migrate an LVM2 installation to RAID5.  I've created the raid array, mounted it, and I'm transfering the filesystem to the RAID5 array with `rsync -avx`.  How should I handle moving the /boot partition?  Do I need it to boot from RAID5?
[23:12] <FloodBot1> ljetibo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <ljetibo> Hello! I have a wireless networking problem on a dual boot laptop (win7 and unbutu12.04). My ISP recently changed the rules and now all modems are locked, that is I can not input my info in its settings as before, which means each device connected at the same time has to have its own username and pass.
[23:13] <ljetibo> In Win7 I now connect to wlan first, and then to a broadband connection again later (see: https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/261x330q90/842/fmb8.png and https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/350x364q50/713/t5c1.png). I have tried to achieve the same thing in ubunutu,
[23:14] <ljetibo> but I can only connect if I have a cable plugged in, I looked around and oppened a dsl connection in the Network connections tab and clicked on connect automatically but to no avail. Can anyone help? I can give more info, but keep in mind that I have to restart everytime, so ask for everything you can think of at once.
[23:16] <Nick23> Hey, I'm new to linux. If I compile a program on my machine with make, is the output file then usable by anone whith the same OS (32 or 64)?
[23:17] <bekks> Nick23: If you compile it as 32bit, then yes.
[23:17] <Nick23> bekks: thanks. How do I know what I compile? ;) if I just enter make?
[23:18] <bekks> Nick23: By configuring your Makefile to compile 32bit.
[23:18] <Nick23> bekks: okay, thanks. :)
[23:20] <blz> I'm currently booted in a live environment and I'm trying to migrate an LVM2 installation to RAID5.  I've created the raid array, mounted it, and I'm transfering the filesystem to the RAID5 array with `rsync -avx`.  How should I handle moving the /boot partition?  Do I need it to boot from RAID5?
[23:21] <tchat> Salut *
[23:22] <blz> !fr |  tchat
[23:23] <ljetibo> Hello! I have a wireless networking problem on a dual boot laptop (win7 and unbutu12.04). My ISP recently changed the rules and now all modems are locked, that is I can not input my info in its settings as before, which means each device connected at the same time has to have its own username and pass.
[23:23] <ljetibo> In Win7 I now connect to wlan first, and then to a broadband connection again later (see: https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/261x330q90/842/fmb8.png and https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/350x364q50/713/t5c1.png). I have tried to achieve the same thing in ubunutu,
[23:23] <ljetibo> but I can only connect if I have a cable plugged in, I looked around and oppened a dsl connection in the Network connections tab and clicked on connect automatically but to no avail. Can anyone help? I can give more info, but keep in mind that I have to restart everytime, so ask for everything you can think of at once.
[23:26] <dani19810> ciao
[23:26] <Mindkontrol> Hello all
[23:27] <dmacedo> hey
[23:27] <Mindkontrol> Anyone know a lot about using ssh through a vpn?
[23:27] <dmacedo> that's a complex question, what type of VPN, any IP conflicts, etc...
[23:27] <Mindkontrol> I am not able to ssh into my machine while it is active on vpn client
[23:27] <dmacedo> check your routing
[23:28] <Mindkontrol> I can ssh into the box fine both locally and externally when it is not connected to the vpn
[23:29] <Shotz> I've got 2 Monitors plugged into my GPU (nVidia 760) and one plugged into the VGA of my Mobo, how can I get all 3 monitors working?
[23:29] <TJ-> Mindkontrol: Are you trying to ssh to the public IP of the remote system, or it's private VPN IP?
[23:30] <Shotz> Right now the Mobo one is frozen with the xubuntu loading screen and isn't detected at all
[23:30] <Shotz> The intergrated GPU is Intel
[23:30] <dmacedo> Mindkontrol, when you  connect to the VPN your routing changes! double check it
[23:31] <TJ-> Shotz: You'd need to run multiple X sessions I think, since there are 2 GPUs and 2 different drivers
[23:31] <Mindkontrol> TJ-: Well, I am not sure exactly I guess.
[23:31] <Shotz> Oh, so I can't do extended display then?
[23:31] <Mindkontrol> I have gone to whatismyip and tried to connect to the ip given there
[23:31] <Ben64> Shotz: why not run all 3 from the nvidia?
[23:31] <Mindkontrol> i have tried to connect to the tun ip from ifconfig
[23:31] <Shotz> Because my card doesn't have a VGA port
[23:31] <TJ-> Shotz: if all the GPUS were controlled by the same driver, maybe
[23:31] <Shotz> and my mobo does
[23:31] <Shotz> this sort of thing works in windows fine
[23:32] <Ben64> Shotz: you know, they make dvi->vga
[23:32] <Shotz> Yeah
[23:32] <Shotz> I know
[23:32] <Shotz> I'm already doing that
[23:32] <FloodBot1> Shotz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <Shotz> With one monitor
[23:32] <Shotz> But from the reviews on DVI-D to VGA on some of these things sucks
[23:32] <Shotz> And If I can just use my Mobo
[23:32] <Shotz> I'd rather do that
[23:32] <FloodBot1> Shotz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <Gallomimia> .
[23:33] <TJ-> Shotz: which model is the nvidia card?
[23:36] <Mindkontrol> TJ-: What IP should i be trying to connect to while vpn is active/
[23:36] <sudormrf> TJ-, any suggestions?
[23:36] <TJ-> Mindkontrol: I have no idea! It's your network!
[23:37] <Gallomimia> Mindkontrol: what connection do you want?
[23:37] <TJ-> sudormrf: I think I must have missed your previous messages, can you repeat?
[23:37] <Mindkontrol> Gallomimia: I am trying to get ssh into a machine that is running a vpn client
[23:37] <Gallomimia> from where/
[23:38] <sudormrf> TJ-, this is a completely virtual setup where I am just trying to get a test run going.  there would be no domain name associated with the mail setup so I don't know if that is a problem or not.
[23:38] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, why not continue using the normal IP you use to ssh in to the box?
[23:39] <mojzesz> hello
[23:39] <TJ-> sudormrf: It shouldn't be unless you've configured roundcube that way. Like I said, for log-in to work the system must have the user account credentials you are using, and courier must be trying to authenticate against the system. Otherwise, courier must be operating its own user database.  I dropped Courier a few years ago so can't recall how it is configured
[23:40] <sudormrf> TJ-, would you say that dovecot is better than courier?
[23:40] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: when i try that the ssh client just hangs
[23:40] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, I am a bit confused.  Is the VPN that you are connecting to something that connects you to the internal network where said box exists or is it just some random VPN?
[23:40] <TJ-> sudormrf: I can't say because I've not used Courier recently. I switched due to frustration with Courier, though.
[23:40] <mojzesz> i have problem with ubunttu 10 after installation i can't launch gnome every time when i try to do it my monitor shows me OUT OF FREQUENCY
[23:41] <sudormrf> TJ-, OK.  I will try it with dovecot.  That is why I am doing this dry run :D
[23:41] <sudormrf> let me nuke the server and start over.
[23:41] <TJ-> sudormrf: huh? why not just remove Courier and install dovecot?
[23:41] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: Its a torrent box that runs a commercial vpn client, i want to be able to ssh into that box while i am elsewhere
[23:41] <Gallomimia> Mindkontrol: i've had this trouble before. it sounds like your ifconfig on the box is set to only bind to the external IP of the vpn
[23:41] <Gallomimia> if you want to do it from outside your network....ssh to the vpn ip
[23:43] <Mindkontrol> Gallomimia: So, when i try that it tells me my username/pass is wrong, and that i dont have  a key selected, however I am not trying to use a key at this point
[23:43] <Mindkontrol> Gallomimia: I know my username and pass is not wrong
[23:43] <Gallomimia> sounds like you're connecting to the wrong machine :/
[23:43] <Beldar> mojzesz, ubuntu 10? no ubuntu with a desktop is supported up to 12.04
[23:43] <Gallomimia> commercial vpn client :( use a foss one
[23:43] <Mindkontrol> Gallomimia: foss?
[23:44] <Gallomimia> you're in the ubuntu channel and don't know what foss means?
[23:44] <Gallomimia> !foss | Mindkontrol
[23:44] <mojzesz> Beldar exactly it's backtrack 5 which cannot start graphic mode
[23:44] <mojzesz> when i type start x i have out of frequency
[23:44] <somsip> !backtrack | mojzesz
[23:44] <Gallomimia> why are you using ubuntu then?
[23:44] <Beldar> mojzesz, backtrack is not supported here, and is end of life.
[23:45] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, er?  so you are vpning into the box and then trying to ssh in to it?  Am I understanding that correctly?
[23:45] <Mindkontrol> Gallomimia: Well, my apologies. Apparently I can only use Ubuntu if i was born with all the knowledge about it and its community beforehand
[23:45] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok.  I will go that way
[23:45] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: I have the box running vpn client, then i am using a computer at another locaiton to attempt to ssh into the machine that is hidden behind the vpn
[23:46] <Gallomimia> it's a really important concept i believe. i get a little annoyed when it's not well embraced or known. sorry
[23:46] <sudormrf> I was just trying to keep the setup as being something like how it would be when I deploy.
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: on the other end of the vpn, what kind of setup is it? is it a bridge connect or behind a nat?
[23:46] <Gallomimia> let's talk about what type of VPN you're using. and yes, what kind of network are you on
[23:46] <Mindkontrol> Gallomimia: I am here because I want to embrace these very ideals.
[23:46] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, so you are able to SSH in to the public IP when not connected to VPN, but once you connect to VPN you cannot ssh in to the box?
[23:46] <TJ-> sudormrf: If you use "apt-get purge courier-imap" (or whatever the package is called) and then "apt-get install dovecot" you should be fine
[23:46] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: Yes!
[23:47] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok.  gimme a few.
[23:47] <mojzesz> Beldar ok so otherwise question how set default resolution in ubuntu to supported b monitor "1024x768 didn't work after add Modes entry in xorg.conf
[23:47] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, and when you ssh in to the box without being connected to the VPN you are using the public IP of the box, correcT?
[23:47] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: Yes
[23:47] <TJ-> Mindkontrol: That sounds like the VPN has set your local system's default route to go through the VPN ... when the VPN is up can you access other sites still, such as web-browsing to google.com ?
[23:48] <Mindkontrol> TJ-: The VPN works fine from the machine running the client, i can reach website and what not fine
[23:48] <Gallomimia> ask google what your ip is on that machine
[23:48] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, and which IP are you using once you VPN in to the box for SSH?
[23:48] <Beldar> mojzesz, You wont get help here, just a heads up is all.
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: have you access to the machine with the vpn client now?
[23:49] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: I initially just tried the public ip, but it didnt work, so then i used whatismyip.com to find my ip through the vpn and that gives me authentication error nd says i have no key set, now i am not setup to use keys
[23:49] <Mindkontrol> I am on the machine with the vpn client running now
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: can you pastebin the output of: ifconfig
[23:50] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, you realize that whatismyip.com is giving you a public IP address right?
[23:50] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, what operating system is the box you are trying to ssh in to running?
[23:50] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: I am no expert. I was merely trying different things to troubleshoot
[23:50] <Gallomimia> holy crap guys give him some time to fiddle with all this stuff
[23:50] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, and that's fine.  that's how we learn :D
[23:51] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: What ip should i be sshing to once the machine is behind the vpn?
[23:51] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, he is getting help.  that is a good thing! :D
[23:51] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, first, what OS is the box running? is it a linux OS? Unix? windows?
[23:51] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: Linux
[23:51] <gillian_> hey
[23:51] <jay_m> hey all
[23:51] <jay_m> hi gillian_
[23:51] <jay_m> ;)
[23:51] <jay_m> :)
[23:51] <FloodBot1> jay_m: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:51] <Mindkontrol> hello
[23:51] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, so first disconnect from the VPN, ssh in to the box and do an ifconfig.  find out the internal ip address of it
[23:51] <jay_m> Greetings Mindkontrol
[23:52] <sudormrf> it's likely there is some sort of NAT going on.
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> no. dont disconnect before doing a ifconfig
[23:52] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, listen to hitsujiTMO
[23:52] <gillian_> Anyone know how to add a FTP server into my explorer?
[23:52] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: I have a router setup as well
[23:52] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, at this point we are looking at the remote end, not the local end.
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: pastebin the output of: ifconfig      so we can try and get a glimpse of what the vpn client is doing
[23:53] <Anton__> Hey guys, I have a VPN on my VPS but when I connect to my VPN I can no longer connect to the VPS since it has a different IP. How do I fix this?
[23:54] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, the remote internal IP should be 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x or 172.16-31.x.x.  once you are VPN'd in you should try to connect using that IP with ssh and let us know the results.
[23:55] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, also, like hitsujiTMO said.  pastebin the results of ifconfig.  you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com to pastebin it.
[23:56] <Steakumz> Good evening guys!
[23:56] <Steakumz> Is there anyone who could answer a MAME question by chance?
[23:56] <Anton__> I have a VPN on my VPS but when I connect to my VPN on my VPS, I get disconnected since it has a different IP. Some guy told me to set a static route to my home IP through the default gateway but I don't know how to do that. How do I fix this?
[23:57] <FireStorms> On a web developer machine where would be a wise choice to store web project files. I understand /var/www/ tend to be the default. But this is out of the scope of my backup utility. Would it hard to use a directory like /home/user/www/ ?
[23:57] <FireStorms> would it harm*
[23:57] <Mindkontrol> http://pastebin.com/Wwi6wUN0
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> FireStorms: /home/www is would even be ok
[23:58] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, once you have vpn'd in try connecting to 192.168.1.5 via ssh and let us know the result
[23:58] <Mindkontrol> i can connect internally ok
[23:59] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: That works fien
[23:59] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: just not externally
[23:59] <FireStorms> What is the purpose of /home/user/public/ directory?
[23:59] <TJ-> FireStorms: default location for user web files is ~/public_html/
[23:59] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, OK, so wait.  you cannot connect to it via ssh on the public IP of the remote server when not connected to VPN?
[23:59] <ChibaPet> http://imgur.com/CpeFuxS