[01:21] <John___> Hello
[01:22] <John___> Is there a fix for the Xubuntu panel freezing while in auto hide?
[01:22] <John___> I know that the workaround is "xfce4-panel -r" but I was wondering if there is a fix yet?
[01:25] <John___> Please don't all answer at the same time.
[02:30] <xub1204> how do I delete nepomuk file indexing with a terminal command??
[02:34] <brainwash> xub1204: try asking in #kde or #kubuntu
[02:35] <brainwash> xubuntu does not ship with the nepomuk framework
[02:39] <xub1204> brainwash xubuntu 12.04 LTS comes with nepomuk-, I just changed back to 12.04 and want to delete it with a terminal command.
[02:40] <holstein> sudo apt-get autoremove pacakgename should work.. though, i would look through what is being removed
[02:41] <brainwash> xub1204: it does? I doubt that, why would it include a KDE component?
[02:41] <xub1204> holstein I tried sudo apt-get remove package-name.....it says it can't locate that package. Tried a bunh of other guesses for the package name too....nothing.
[02:42] <holstein> xub1204: you can always use any package manager, such as synaptic, if that is easier
[02:42] <holstein> !info nepomuk
[02:43] <brainwash> try sudo apt-get purge nepomuk*
[02:43] <xub1204> brainwash it has a useful search tool in it, the catfish tool for xubuntu is pretty close to useless....it's my guess that it was included because it has a search tool in it.
[02:43] <Unit193> nepomuk isn't in Xubuntu, though you can install it.
[02:43] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04.3/release/xubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.manifest check it out.
[02:44] <xub1204> Unit193 I don't know what to say....I just installed 12.04 Xubuntu 2 days ago, and it came with nepomuk.......
[02:45] <holstein> xub1204: are you sure? i would expect to not be able to find it, since its not shipping with it, and you cant find it to remove it
[02:45] <brainwash> you can check the apt history log
[02:46] <xub1204> brainwash I had no idea a wildcard could be used....seems a little dangerous to me.....but will try it.
[02:47] <xub1204> holstein interesting......I havent tried to run it, but it is listed in the menu as an available program...............maybe it's not really there....
[02:47] <brainwash> you'll have to confirm the change anyway
[02:47] <brainwash> so it's not that dangerous
[02:47] <xub1204> thanks to all for the info-have a great day and a better tomorrow.
[02:48] <brainwash> glad we could help you :)
[02:51] <xub1204> brainwash apt-get purge nepomuk* worked, also got rid of the backup utility. Tnx again.
[04:46] <delt> Here's a good one: where is it stored which was the last session i opened? I thought it was ~/.dmrc, but changing that file doesn't seem to affect which one is selected by default.
[05:23] <Guest37166> How do I change my name on here from guest to whatever
[05:59] <pero> what's the package name for the screensaver? (i want to uninstall)
[06:01] <Unit193> xscreensaver
[06:01] <pero> thx
[06:02] <pero> Removing xscreensaver ...
[06:02] <pero> ./usr/bin/xscreensaver: No such file or directory
[06:02] <pero> odd
[06:02] <pero> found it originally and told me how much space would be saved etc
[06:03] <pero> however no longer listed in settings menu
[07:18] <mntelmen> how to properly install solarized scheme in vim and xfce4-terminal?
[07:18] <mntelmen> any one out there?
[07:18] <mntelmen> to answer my question?
[07:50] <justin12488> hey guys, i know this is a noob question but: im trying to make a custom launcher for my dock to logout (as in end the session and return to the login screen) i have googled for an hour and cant find a terminal command that works to simply logout
[07:53] <justin12488> i just installed xubuntu tonight and ive been tweaking and customizing the look the way i like it, and i decided to make a "dock" by adding another panel and setting it up to look like a dock so i didnt have to use cairo its buggy as hell on my pc, everything is as it should be except i need one more launcher for log out and idk what to type under "command" to get it to log out when i click the icon '
[07:55] <justin12488> anyone know how to log out of xfce with a terminal?
[07:56] <Unit193> xfce4-session-logout --logout
[07:57] <Unit193> ...Hopefully that wasn't him testing it.
[07:58] <koegs> why use a command, why not use the applet?
[08:07] <Sysi> he likes to live dangerously
[11:15] <starrats> yesterday I put xbuntu on my VM VirtualBox  and I'm on it now, good morning to you all
[11:15] <Calinou> hi starrats
[11:16] <cfhowlett> starrats, greetings
[11:16] <starrats> I might be a lot to ask questions or just see what's happening
[12:22] <nikolam> both thumblerd and vlc dies on presenting with mp4 video downloaded from youtube
[12:23] <nikolam> thunblerd dies, report crash, vlc use 100% cpu and can be only killed with -9
[14:34] <starrats> xubuntu ROCKS especially on VirtualBox
[14:34] <cub> I think it rocks even more when installed natively. ;)
[14:36] <starrats> well I have it on my winbox, really don't want to do a partitioned HD at the moment
[14:48] <jarnos> Is it possible to install 32-bit Firefox on 64-bit Xubuntu and reduce memory usage that way?
[14:50] <spicypixel> my windows/super key isn't working, any way to debug testing where the problem might be?
[14:50] <bullgard4> jarnos: If at all, the memory saving will be neglectable.
[14:51] <bullgard4> spicypixel: Try xev first.
[14:51] <spicypixel> okay
[14:54] <jarnos> bullgard4, there is remakable difference, at least if also Xubuntu is 32-bit, inf Firefox's memory (or swap) usage: http://askubuntu.com/a/70551/21005
[15:34] <cub> jarnos, a hint at your question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/111947/running-32-bit-firefox-with-sun-jre-in-64-bit-ubuntu/202415#202415 in the reply the point 2 says to download and install the 32 bit firefox manually
[15:50] <[devil-boy]> greetings
[15:56] <jarnos> cub,  I tried installing "firefox:i386" package. It removed the 64-bit firefox, but settings are the same. However, I can't install  "flashplugin-installer:i386",  since it depends on update-notifier-common:i386 (>= 0.119ubuntu2) but that is not installable :(
[15:57] <jarnos> oh, cub is gone, but anyway, I am using Xubuntu 13.10.
[15:58] <ui_> jarnos: why would you do that?
[15:58] <jarnos> ui_, to reduce memory consumption.
[15:59] <ui_> based on what hard numbers?
[16:00] <ui_> did you try midori?
[16:00] <jarnos> ui_, no I did not.
[16:01] <jarnos> ui_, I guess 32-bit applications take less memory even if ran in 64-bit system. Am I wrong?
[16:01] <ui_> another lightweight option is surf, although less newbie-friendly (see man surf for the keybindings)
[16:02] <ui_> jarnos: depends heavily on how the application uses memory. Pointers are just a part of the application-s RAM contents
[16:04] <ui_> also loading the 32 bit versions of the libraries (while the other programs in the OS load their 64 bit versions) would actually increase ram usage (two versions of libraries that do the same thing).
[16:10] <Aurum_> What does it mean when I have a morbidly obese mouse in the center of my desktop but no mouse cursor???
[16:11] <jarnos> ui_, good points. As for firefox + libre office there is a big difference in swap usage, when in 32-bit:  http://askubuntu.com/a/70551/21005
[16:56] <recon_lap> seems that when my laptop tries to turn on it's fan is when xubuntu crashes. xubuntu also sometimes makes a total mess of saving the session and leaves me with an unusable session due to windows not having control bars.
[17:21] <recon_lap> xubuntu is getting totally fubar'ed on my system. kernel lockup several times a day, followed by session bugs.
[17:22] <Calinou> recon_lap, which version?
[17:22] <Calinou> make sure your system is up to date
[17:23] <holstein> recon_lap: also, test the last kernel
[17:28] <recon_lap> 12.04 lts, been a problem for quite a few kernels now, but gotten quite bad lately, I think it's the CUP fan starting up that causing it
[17:28] <holstein> recon_lap: so, you can boot an older kernel and all is well?
[17:30] <recon_lap> holstein: all is well in this kernel, until it locks up, and been doing this for ages, so is a problem in many kernels
[17:32] <recon_lap> and since it's a kernel lockup there are no clues as to whats causing it.
[17:32] <recon_lap> any good CPU monitoring tools that can create a log that i can check?
[17:33] <holstein> recon_lap: can you run an older kernel with *no* lockups?
[17:33] <Sysi> are you using original 12.04 kernel or backported one?
[17:33] <recon_lap> holstein: have had this since 12.04 was installed , so I'd say no.
[17:34] <holstein> recon_lap: then, is not "a few kernels now"? correct? its *all* linux kernels you have tried?
[17:34] <recon_lap> freshly installed 12.04, just updates since.
[17:34] <holstein> recon_lap: can any live CD run on the machine without locking up?
[17:35] <holstein> live CD's are an easy way to test and isolate/troubleshoot.. otherwise, it could be a hard ware issue causing the lockup
[17:35] <recon_lap> holstein: I cant answer those questions, this was a rare issue, maybe once a week, it now 3 times a day.
[17:36] <holstein> recon_lap: that would be inline more with a hardware failure.. and the fan..
[17:37] <recon_lap> It's there a CPU temp monitoring tool that'll keep a log, might be able to pin this down a bit better if i had one.
[17:38] <holstein> i know there are tools.. for me, i would test the memory, then i would run a live CD after that passed to rule out the hard drive and installed OS.. after running a smart test.. then, i would start removing or disabling un-used components, and trying to rule out as much as possible from the motherboard
[17:39] <Calinou> lm-sensors, recon_lap
[17:39] <Calinou> then type "sensors"
[17:39] <Calinou> "watch -n1 sensors" to have temperature reports updated every second
[17:39] <peyam> I se it every4 second. all flashing numbers annoying me
[17:39] <holstein> but, i'll need to try and store it somewhere.. after the lockup, it wont be accessible, or writing info, likely
[17:40] <recon_lap> thx Calinou, now is there a way to get it to log that to a file?
[17:40] <Calinou> not sure
[17:41] <Calinou> recon_lap, a CPU overheating causes a HARD shutdown
[17:41] <Calinou> not a graceful one, not a kernel lock up
[17:41] <Calinou> CPU overheat shutdown is about 120-130°C
[17:41] <Calinou> throttle is about 100°C
[17:41] <recon_lap> no, I think it's when the fan tries to start, the OS locks up.
[17:42] <recon_lap> be down near 50c if thats whats happening
[17:42] <holstein> you cant assume anything from the fan though.. that could be bios related.. or motherboard failure.. etc
[17:43] <recon_lap> the only thing I know for sure is that I'm always doing something when it happens, never just happens when Im reading something.
[17:43] <Calinou> what kernel version? uname -a
[17:44] <recon_lap> Linux mec-Aspire-V3-571 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:46] <recon_lap> is the 14.04 release a lts ?
[17:47] <Calinou> it will be
[17:47] <Calinou> every 2 years there is LTS, supported for 3 years (Xubuntu)
[17:47] <Calinou> non-LTS has 9 months support
[17:47] <Calinou> consider using non-LTS whenever possible...
[17:47] <recon_lap> hmm, wonder if I can put up with this for 3 more months
[17:48] <Calinou> upgrading to 13.10 would have a low chance of solving your problems
[17:49] <recon_lap> well, I do a full system rebuild every LTS, don't really fancy doing it twice within a couple of months.
[17:49] <Sysi> you can try 13.04 or 13.10 kernel from backports repo
[17:49] <Calinou> ^
[17:50] <recon_lap> you mean boot with 13.10 kernel and see if it crashes again?
[17:50] <Calinou> yes
[17:50] <recon_lap> ok, I'll give it a shot.
[17:57] <recon_lap> went back quite a few kernels, had no networking , what version was the 13.10 kernel?
[17:58] <recon_lap> on 3.2.0-55-generic atm
[17:58] <ui_> 3.11
[17:58] <Calinou> 13.10 has 3.11.0-15
[18:00] <recon_lap> I'll give that a try if it's there. bbl
[18:00] <Sysi> !info linux-image-generic-lts-saucy precise
[18:01] <recon_lap> hmm, will I have that kernel on a 12.04 system?
[18:02] <recon_lap> anyways, I'll go look
[18:03] <Sysi> seems those are in main, not backports
[18:05] <recon_lap> nope, only 3.2.X kernel available
[18:05] <Sysi> it's not installed by default, it's in the package I asked the bot about
[18:05] <Sysi> linux-image-generic-lts-saucy
[18:06] <Sysi> that's a metapackage that pulls in the latest 13.10 one
[18:06] <recon_lap> ok, I'm going to have to make a rescue disk of some sort. I just re purposed my USB boot key.
[18:08] <Sysi> it's in the default repositories, you just need to install it manually
[18:08] <Sysi> it's no different than installing original lts kernels
[18:12] <recon_lap> no offense, but if i'm going to be messing around with kernels I want a rescue disk, I dont have a backup system if something goes bad.
[18:13] <Myrtti> if you don't uninstall the old kernels, you have a backup system
[18:13] <Myrtti> just hit shift after POST and pick a kernel that worked
[18:14] <recon_lap> I've used computers long enough to never trust them and always have a backup plan for total system failure. I dont have that plan atm.
[18:18] <Calinou> have a live USB around
[18:19] <recon_lap> I did till about 2 hours ago, that'll teach me.
[18:20] <Sysi> sure it's good to always have plan B and preferably C too, but installing a kernel with a package manager from default repositories really is safe
[18:22] <recon_lap> Sysi: famous last words :) , I'll have the live usb doen in a bit
[18:23] <Sysi> I think I might install xubuntu this weekend when I get back to my desktop so I can see how well I can get netflix to work
[18:25] <recon_lap> Sysi: surely they have some type of DRMA that'll mess everything up
[18:29] <Sysi> you can run silverlight on patched wine, but mileage varies
[18:31] <Myrtti> Pipelight
[18:31] <Myrtti> might or might not work
[18:33] <Sysi> I wonder if running windows in vmware fusion works
[18:37] <recon_lap1> nice, 3rd lockup today, when unetbootin tried to access the USB drive
[18:37] <starrats> hello everyone
[18:39] <recon_lap1> o/ starrats
[18:42] <starrats> just started using xubuntu yesterday
[18:51] <recon_lap> now, whats the name of that kernel package again?
[18:51] <starrats> welcome back recon_lap
[18:51] <recon_lap> yep, system like a yoyo today
[18:52] <Steve_McQuack> Hello.
[18:52] <starrats> I'm on 2 other channels haven't been bumped yet but time will tell, lol
[18:52] <Sysi> recon_lap: linux-image-generic-lts-saucy
[18:52] <starrats> hello Steve
[18:53] <Steve_McQuack> Perhaps someone can help me?
[18:53] <Steve_McQuack> I'm trying to install Xubuntu to a RAID0 partition along with Windows
[18:54] <Steve_McQuack> And every version since 12.04 has given me this same error
[18:54] <Steve_McQuack> when it attempts to detect partitions I believe
[18:54] <Steve_McQuack> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2785467/xubuntu%20pls%20srsly%20pls.png
[18:55] <Steve_McQuack> Same thing happens on alternate install ISOs, I just can't screencap those
[18:55] <recon_lap> Sysi: so, am I now going to be using 13.10 kernel when i reboot?
[18:55] <Steve_McQuack> And I've had this working on RAID before
[18:55] <Sysi> recon_lap: it should become the default choice after instalaltion
[18:56] <recon_lap> ok, I'll reboot and get on with life and see if the system keeps locking up, I report back after a few days if not, sooner if it does :)
[18:56] <Sysi> Steve_McQuack: hardware raid?
[18:57] <Steve_McQuack> It's on-board BIOS RAID
[18:57] <Steve_McQuack> not a dedicated controller
[18:58] <Steve_McQuack> The thing is dmraid -ay          ls -la /dev/mapper/
[18:58] <Steve_McQuack> tells me it's detecting the partitions correctly
[18:58] <Steve_McQuack> and versions of Xubuntu live with Gparted also show the partitions correctly in Gparted
[18:59] <Steve_McQuack> I just can't decipher this error
[19:00] <Steve_McQuack> I've had this same thing pop up in one of the versions of Ubuntu I've tried too though, so maybe it's a more general problem
[19:00] <Steve_McQuack> Should I ask in #ubuntu  ?
[19:00] <Sysi> check this first, especially fakeraid part https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[19:01] <Steve_McQuack> lol fakeraid
[19:01] <Steve_McQuack> Whatever you want to call it :3
[19:01] <Sysi> you can also wait a bit if someone else happens to know, I don't have any kind of experience with any raid setup
[19:10] <recon_lap> well, that did not go well, not wireless card :(
[19:10] <recon_lap> not/no
[19:15] <recon_lap> anyways, thx for the help, I'm just going to nuke this install and see if a fresh install of 12.04 will help. reminds me of those dark days when I was a windows user :(
[19:27] <peyam> Hi
[19:27] <peyam> I uninslaeed xfce4-panel
[19:27] <peyam> Now I cant find layout settings in keyboard
[19:27] <peyam> so I m not able to switch languages
[19:28] <peyam> how do I fix it without reinstalling xfce4-panel?
[19:30] <cub> peyam, not sure I understand. Do you mean you can't get it through the menu anymore?
[19:32] <peyam> cub I cant switch between them anymore
[19:33] <peyam> that option is gone
[19:58] <keyral> bonsoir
[20:12] <xubuntu100> When I try to get my PC details from System Settings > Details, nothing opens. When I open the Task Manager i see that gnome-control-center is running although it's not open. Fix?
[20:13] <TheSheep> there is no "system settings" in xubuntu
[20:18] <xubuntu100> oh i have ubuntu-desktop
[20:18] <xubuntu100> wouldnt there be a similar fix?
[20:19] <elfy> #ubuntu is the place to ask
[20:19] <elfy> and no - we don't have the same things installed as Ubuntu
[20:31] <peyam> elfy, xubuntu is ubuntu. you should be able to answer question as long as they are not about DE
[20:32] <recon_lap> there is lshw :)
[22:58] <xubuntu207> Hi, who can help me to choose the best option to install Xubuntu in my PC (Windows 7),without alterate it?, please
[23:00] <bekks> !dualboot | xubuntu207
[23:08] <xubuntu207> Thanks