| mhall119 | highvoltage: have you heard of kids having problems with Unity? I switched mine from the Qimo/Xfce setup to Unity a couple years ago and they're doing fine on it | 17:24 |
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| mhall119 | still on 12.04 though, so they don't have all the new smart scopes | 17:24 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: yeah, finding apps / typing app names is hard for little kids | 17:24 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: or when there isn't an adult around to help out the second time they try to find an app. the old style menus seem slightly better for that | 17:25 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, LTSP has probs with unity ... so you have to have an alternate desktop that doesnt use composite all over the place anyway | 17:25 |
| mhall119 | mine usually search by keyword ("math", "science", etc), maybe there's some work we can do adding more/better keywords to the .desktop files of those | 17:25 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: yeah that's not very intuitive either | 17:25 |
| ogra_ | (edubuntu will also not be able to switch to Mir most likely due to that) | 17:26 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: hmmmm, is that something that can be fixed in LTSP, or is it just the nature of the two (LTSP and compositing) that they won't work together? | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, it is the nature of networks ... you can have composite across networked desktops but that will be unusable slow | 17:26 |
| highvoltage | I think direct rendering also broke in compiz (or something like that) | 17:27 |
| stgraber | mhall119: I also suspect your kids are older than some of our users and they also happen to be native english speakers. I doubt dash keyword search works that well if you speak say Indian | 17:27 |
| ogra_ | and Mir does not even have a concept of network forwarding at all | 17:27 |
| ogra_ | not even in the planning | 17:27 |
| mhall119 | stgraber: 8 and 9 years old,but yes on being native English speakers | 17:27 |
| highvoltage | well, typing things into the dash even implies that a user knows that they can do that | 17:28 |
| mhall119 | stgraber: keywords can be translated though, IIRC, so I can get dpm to help me promote that among the translations community | 17:28 |
| highvoltage | even though it says "type to search..." etc, most people who see it for the first time doesn't realise that they can or what to search for | 17:28 |
| highvoltage | so they end up staring at the dash wondering what to do | 17:28 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: yeah, LTSP is X11-centric right? | 17:28 |
| highvoltage | if there's someone around to help them, it usually works out. but many of our users are people installing it in isolation and have to figure things out by themselves | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, well, it relies on the display protocol being able to do network forwarding | 17:29 |
| highvoltage | well LTSP 6 is moving to support primarilly fat clients. so a desktop environment running on Mir should be fine. | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, which is clearly been denied in the Mir planning | 17:29 |
| highvoltage | (you just won't be able to run remoteapps) | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: ok | 17:30 |
| ogra_ | ah, not aware of the recent ltsp plans | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: it won't be part of Mir, no | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | but like Wayland, could potentially be built on top | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | is there a roadmap/work items for Edubuntu 14.04? | 17:31 |
| mhall119 | also (he asks selfishly) is there a script for building the ISOs from scratch? | 17:32 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: basically the two areas mentioned in the cc catchup (some flashback bugs and edubuntu server) | 17:33 |
| mhall119 | ok | 17:34 |
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